
Episode 4865: The Truth Behind Mass Deportations...
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Stephen K. Bannon
Breaking news out of Portland, the ninth Circuit. Breaking news about Portland, I should say. The ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has overturned Judge Immerse order blocking the federalization of the National Guard, which means President Trump can deploy the National Guard into Portland, Oregon. That is a big, big, big deal. It is a big deal. And I want to just correct one thing and then explain why functional it is the same. This is a stay of Judge Immigrants opinion and that's why it reached the 9th Circuit as soon as it did, because this is an emergency motion to essentially pause her order. But as a functional matter, you are absolutely correct. It has the function of overturning her order and thereby allowing the President to send the National Guard back onto the streets of Portland. And Katie, I want to read if I can, just from a little bit of the beginning of this 93 page opinion, it says after considering the record, and by the record, they mean all the factual evidence. At this preliminary stage, we conclude that it is likely that the President lawfully exercised his statutory authority under 10 USC section 12 4. 06. That's the statute we've been referring to as Title 10. When we have conversations about the National Guard deployments, which authorizes the federalization of the National Guard when the President is unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States. And this is the important part. The evidence the President relied on reflects, quote, a colorable assessment of the facts and law within a range of honest judgment. We thus conclude that defendants are likely to succeed on the merits of their appeal. Basically saying that when and if a court considers all of the record in this matter is tried and it gets back to an appellate court through an ordinary process where they have full briefing and full evidence that they still think Donald Trump is likely to prevail there because he has the discretion to determine as the President within a range of honest judgment when it is reasonable.
Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese
So we're going to be here to talk about lots of lots of different things. And we might take a few questions before, but we are discussing critical minerals and rare earths. And we're going to be signing an agreement that's been negotiated over a period of four or five months. And it was sort of good timing that we got it done just in time for the visit. And we worked together very much on rare earths, critical minerals and lots of other things. And we've had a very good relationship. We've been working on that for quite a while. In about a year from now, we'll have so much critical mineral and rare earths that you won't know what to do with them. They'll be worth about $2. But in the meantime, we're working with Australia and other countries, they're working with us too, but other countries also on that. But we're really working on anything having to do with military, military protection, military ships, vehicles, guns, ammunition, everything, the whole thing. We've been long term, longtime allies and I would say there's never been anybody better. We fought wars together, we never had any doubts. And it's a great honor to have you as my friend. It's a great honor to have you in the United States of America.
Progressive Activist
We're seeing a peaceful opposition against Trump. The like set the world the likes that our country hasn't seen in a long time. And it's infuriating him. He's threatening to potentially deploy the National Guard into San Francisco, which is why things like no Kings are so important, because this isn't a sprint, it's a marathon. And getting people on the ground gets people connected with those community networks, which gives them the ability to resist against Trump's regime every single day. And more importantly, it gives people the courage to stand up. There was a poll that went out that four of five U.S. troops understand their duty to disobey illegal orders. Using the military to crush peaceful dissent. Using the National Guard to crush peaceful dissent is illegal. It's fascist. It's what Trump wants to do. It's what he already did in la and it's what he's trying to do in Chicago and Portland, in Memphis and in D.C. and what he's going to try to do in San Francisco and things like no Kings give both elected officials and potentially pillars of this regime, people like the military, people like civil service employees, the courage to stand up, to risk their own jobs and livelihoods because they know that we the people are backing them and that together we can stop this regime before it harms and destroys our entire country.
Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go.
Progressive Activist
To share the big lie?
Stan Vojavodsky
MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish.
Steve Bannon
That any of these people, people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my Task. And what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War room.
Stan Vojavodsky
Here's your host, Stephen k. Band.
Steve Bannon
Monday, the 20th of October, year of our Lord 2025. Another historic day. By the way, if the, the last speaker, if he's saying that no Kings is going to give back up two pillars of the regime to like work against President Trump, the military, just what no Kings was an epic fail. Now they're breaking it down to a couple of hundred thousand people showed up in New York and Chicago and places like that where you can have any kind of protest and get a couple hundred thousand to show up. It's no 7 million. That's a joke. Everybody knows that. It's just a bunch of old white, you know, a bunch of old white liberals, teachers, you know, college professors, other irrelevant people wandering around. Wandering around. If that's what you're counting on. George Soros money not well spent. Sure. Taken out in a barrel out into the front yard and just burned it. No, I don't think that's going to give anybody any. Oh, I feel so. No Kings was so massive, you know, I think I can go and countermand the commander in chief's orders. Yeah, I don't think that's gonna be. I don't think you see a lot of that if that's what you're hoping for. Epic fail. Also the courts. Yeah. Go to Portland and you heard the big. These are the same people that said, oh, you know, this can be backed up by the appellate court. That's gonna be backed up all the way. Supreme Court. And now they run around for all the reasons that. Oh, yeah, well, you know, really, they're just trying to get through this. And no, President Trump's got full power. Article. You heard this one before. Article two Power. In fact, we pull. I think I got it too. It's up on getter Maria Bartiromo. Yesterday, President Trump used my famous, my best phrase, the best phrase ever. He goes, hey, Maria, you do know that I'm the chief law enforcement officer of the United States government. Ba boom, ba boom. Do you got that one? We can. Can you go and play that, man? What a way to start this production team. Production team back. And they're rocking. Let's go ahead and hear the president from Maria Bartiromo.
Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese
I'm the chief law enforcement officer of the United States. You know that, right? A lot of people say, oh, he's the president, he should. No, I'm the chief law enforcement. I'm allowed to be involved in it, but I haven't chosen to.
Mike Lindell
Boom.
Steve Bannon
Tonight. Rachel Maddow, my knight. Suck on that, girl, yo. That's his Article 2 power, and he's using his Article 2 power. And the appellate court just backed him up. San Francisco, Portland, let's roll. Let's, let's see. Stop the invasion and repel the invaders. And let's lock up in a federal prison. Anybody tries to get in your way, including people out there trying to dox ICE officers or the military or any of it. It's time to stop playing games with these people. President's got this great phrase, no games, no games, when he says that, you know, he's serious, that something's going on in negotiation or some event or activity, that he's just tired of it. No games. Kind of. I think what he told Kushner and Witkoff when he put him on the plane said, I want a deal. And tell Netanyahu, no games. No more games. No games. The reason Marco wasn't on the plane with him was his disastrous showing as we highlighted a couple of weeks before it's time. Of course, Netanyahu is in the Times of Israel today saying Trump is. Did not order me. Trump did not force me into signing this. Okay, Bibi, good try. Let Tel Aviv Levin push that one on. On the, on the. On his radio show. Lane, push that one. You weren't forced. You did it willingly because all your. I forgot all your objectives in the Gaza war were met. Unreal. Historic. Today in. In the Cabinet Room with the Prime Minister of Australia. Stan, you're with me. And Stan, I'm going to let you take a crack. It's too late on Monday. We've been too busy here in the war room. I'm going to let you take a cracker. Your last name? It's Stan Vojavodsky.
Stan Vojavodsky
And it's good to be back. Thanks for having me again on the show.
Steve Bannon
So listen, the reason I love having you on. You're my quiet weapon over there. You did nothing but called shots. You called the shot on the rare earth and you called the shot on the submarines. Start with, why was this so important a meeting? And look, the President. We can be open about this. He hadn't exactly been loving up on the Australian Prime Minister. Had Kevin Rudd in there. And we've had Rudd. We've got Rudd's book. Who we love the book on the Chinese Communist Party. He did a great job on that. But he and Rudd have had disagreements and he had Rudd in there today. And Said, where's that other Prime Minister? The one says, you know, we've said bad things about each other. He had Rudd in there, he had the current Prime Minister, which they've never been particularly close today they were like brothers in arms. I've never seen such a positive meeting, a positive bilat. He also didn't do in the Oval. I think they did it in the Cabinet room so he can get more media in there. Why was this so important to get to sign right at the top? That's how important it was for Trump. They walk in, they signed the, they signed this deal right at the top on, on rare earths because Bessant is en route to go meet with the Chinese Finance Minister. And Trump had said at this meeting, which I don't know, that Beijing has not verified it, but President Trump said he's meeting with Xi. Why was the rare earth such a big deal, sir?
Stan Vojavodsky
I mean, first of all, I think it's an, it was a very good meeting. It's definitely a win for Australia. It took about 270 days since Prime Minister Albanese was and that's the longest, I think in the last 10 or 15 years that the two heads of states took to meet on the heels of a victory. So that left the door open for a lot of pundits and criticism that perhaps PM Albanese might not have the ear of President Trump, perhaps the Aukus submarine deal might be in troubled waters. And obviously today, for you and I, folks like us who've been paying keen attention over the past year on where this alliance might go, it was a confirmation that the US remains a steadfast partner in such an important naval alliance in such a critical part of the world, that is the Indo Pacific. Additionally, and I think you're probably one of the those that have covered the most some of the moves on the part of China and the CCP to play hardball in the rare earth space to try and corner the United States by limiting exports of anything that has remotely 0.1% of critical minerals or rare earth. And that means the entire technology and information industry across all sectors, strategic sectors, that is. And so this, this technology prosperity deal that was signed right off the bat in the Cabinet room between the two administrations first reaffirms Aukus, but also paves the way for a long term strategic partnership in sourcing critical minerals and rare earth. And it's a chess move on China's attempt at pressuring the US and its partners along the rare earth route, which is so critical to our national security. So to the pundits back in Australia, which have had 270 days to undermine and criticize both President Trump from far, but also at home, their prime minister, that the Trump administration was in retreat and could not be relied upon. I think it's a strong message to our allies and our adversaries in the region that have doubted that the US Would stick to its end of the bargain. It's also a very strong message. It reaffirms and reassures our allies and it gives predictability if I want to be politically correct. To our adversaries. It projects, you know, continued naval supremacy and the notion that the US Remains the world's leading naval force, augmented now with Australia and the UK and this, you know, generational partnership that we've come to know as Aukus deterrence is in fact the name of the game. I mentioned it in my last conversation with you. Peace through strength is a doctrine and stealth remains the most important element of both our nuclear triad.
Steve Bannon
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Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese
Of the movement to be fair. And you cover it as well as anybody that's ever covered this subject. You know, it's a very complex subject, but China has ripped us off from day one. And you know, Richard Nixon, he allowed, he allowed this to happen. You know, he was the one, he opened China. And I said, is that good or bad? You tell me. He unleashed it. And we have a very strong adversary. And they only respect Strike.
Stan Vojavodsky
Wow.
Steve Bannon
President Trump gave me a little real pollute. Stan, I just want to back up for one second. And this is why I loved your call shot, because this was very controversial for the last couple of years. And a lot of guys like Stan and myself and others that were huge advocates of this, not just media in Australia, but also in the region and others said that day's over. Trump's, you know, Trump's an isolationist. The CCP has intimidated the Australian people too much. They got called out. It was all proven wrong. Just, just give me a minute of why this submarine deal is so important for the. To show the strength of the alliance, really, Australia, the United States and Great Britain to stand up to the Chinese Communist Party and to show the people in the region that are not Australians, not English, are not Americans, that we're not messing around here. Sir. Sure.
Stan Vojavodsky
Thank you again. I think, as we discussed on the 250 year anniversary of the US Navy, at any given time, on any given day, you have six, seven, eight nations and island nations in the Indo Pacific that are being challenged in their exclusive economic zones, in their territorial waters by an adversary, the People's Liberation Navy or its maritime militia. And the Indo Pacific has become ground zero of global competition. Naval warfare capacity and projection remains.
Steve Bannon
The.
Stan Vojavodsky
Realm of global powers. Australia sits in the middle of this body of water. It is a critical partner. And this generational partnership that was signed under a previous administration and that was reviewed under President Trump signals to our partners and our allies in the region that they're not alone in standing up to some of the bullying that the maritime militia or the People's Liberation Navy exerts on their fisheries, on their territorial waters, on their territorial claims. And therefore it was of the utmost importance once Aukus was signed, not to pull back from it because the both allies and adversaries have already computed and incorporated that into their war games. And therefore, had we pulled out or had anything happened to this alliance, it would leave a massive vacuum which would be immediately filled by our adversaries. I have to maybe state that something you must know. Over the last two, three days, there's been a lot of noise coming out of the, of the CCP. I think on October 17, the Defense Ministry announced that the vice chair of the Central Military Commission, a member of the Politburo, and eight other senior military commanders had been expelled from the Communist Party and the military for serious violations of party discipline. So the lines are shifting. It's very hard, very opaque, very hard to read what is going on behind closed doors with the Party. But certainly this peace through strength and this reassurance of our commitments to our allies, both within NATO and outside of NATO, but certainly Indo Pacific is making the rounds and is being noticed by both our adversaries and our allies.
Steve Bannon
By the way, we're going to, we're going to the seven o', clock, six o' clock hour. Excuse me. We're going to go through this even in more depth because President Trump, the Chinese Communist Party has thrown down an open, active and serious economic war against the United States with these heavy rare earths. And President Trump, this is why it's going to be Australia first and next he's going to get one with Brazil. He's fighting back and giving some ammo to Scott Bessant. He goes over and President Trump announced that he's going to meet. We're going to cover it all. Also the buried lead. President Trump goes in a year, we're going to be fine in a year. Going to just take that out and your number two principal and write that down. That is 12 months. That's a long time, particularly when you're, when people in your production, you know, the Ford Motor Company, we got to shut down the lines in six weeks. This is what the CCP is trying to do to the United States and it's what it's trying to do to President Trump as much as he's tried to, I think, accommodate them in some of their struggles with their economy. Stan, what's your social media. You've been ahead of this. And today was two called shots, one on the rare earths and the other on this massive submarine deal. Where do people find you, sir, for.
Stan Vojavodsky
Your writings on LinkedIn or on your show most of the time? Steve, thank you again for inviting me. As I mentioned the last time, stealth is the name of the game, including in our advisory role.
Steve Bannon
We, we love guys and know what they're talking about and can get our audience information and knowledge well before it happens. Thank you, sir.
Stan Vojavodsky
Thank you. Have a good night.
Steve Bannon
Those are the guys you want to get on. Guys will tell you weeks and months ahead, hey, here's what's going to happen and here's why it's going to happen. Very impressive. Big day for President Trump. Very big day in this Chinese Communist Party. Thing's only going to get uglier. We're going to break it all down with various people at six. I've got Michael Patrick Leahy. I gotta tell you, I've known Leahy for a long time. He's a comrade in arms. You gotta go pretty far in the woods to hit his tripwire. But, man, when you hit Leahy's tripwire, action's coming. Last night on 60 Minutes where I was obsessed with the, with the Jared Kushner and Wyckoff interview, which I thought was so much amazing information came out of there. But Michael Patrick Leahy focused on another part of 60 Minutes, another interview. Let's go ahead and play the cold open and bring in Michael Patrick Leahy.
Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese
I'm the chief law enforcement officer of the United States. You know that, right? A lot of people say, oh, he's the president. He should. No, I'm the chief law enforcement. I'm allowed to be involved in it, but I haven't chosen to.
Stephen K. Bannon
And DOJ whistleblower Erez Rovini, who was inside the Trump Justice Department, pulled back the curtain on what it looks like inside and the Trump administration's open defiance of the courts in order to maximize mass deportations. Take a look.
Erez Rovini
Felt like a bomb had gone off. Here is the number three official using expletives to tell career attorneys that we may just have to consider disregarding federal court orders. And then it really hit me. It's like we really did tell the court. Screw you. We really did just tell the courts. We don't care about your order. You can't tell us what to do. That was just a real gut punch.
Steve Bannon
Normally, people deported in error are returned. But instead, Reuveni says that in a phone call from a superior, he was ordered to argue against Abrego Garcia. His return by telling a judge that Abrego Garcia was an Ms. 13 gang member and a terrorist.
Erez Rovini
And I respond up to it, up the chain of command. No way. That is not correct. That is not factually correct. It is not legally correct. That is. That is a lie. And I. I cannot sign my name to that brief.
Steve Bannon
Whoa. Michael Patrick Leahy. Okay, here's the thing. Barry Weiss was a very pro isra. She was criticized about this a lot. She's a Zionist. She allows to go on because this is her first week as executive editor of CBS News. And the first thing she did was, as Michael Patrick Leahy knows, she called the 60 Minutes crew in there and said, hey, you know, certain people have think you're biased. And they're like, what are you talking about? It was a full meltdown. They leaked everything to the press. She allowed the Lesley Stahl interview with Witkoff and Jared go forward, which buried Netanyahu, buried him, full stop. Yet this one pops up and Leahy, you more than any person in the United States of America is on top of the story. Why is this story so outrageous, sir?
Michael Patrick Leahy
Well, this is Scott Pelley in 60 Minutes and the anti Trump propagandist that there a throwdown, a challenge to the leadership of Barry Weiss because the clips you played are biased, dishonest, and misleading. Particularly that last clip of the Rez Roveni, who was fired by the Department of Justice for not zealously defending his client's interest, the United States government. His claim that there was no evidence that Kilmar abrego Garcia had Ms. 13ties is just a flat out lie. In fact, if you go to two immigration court judge decisions in 2019, they kept him in detention while his final deportation hearing was being held because two judges concluded there was enough evidence that he was an MS.13 gang member. Now, why didn't Raveni present that to the court? He should have. He didn't.
Steve Bannon
This, I want to hold you through the break. I want to bring you back because some of the audience may not understand that you're the guy that broke all this story down at Tennessee with your radio show and the Tennessee star. You went in, Leahy went in and did the pick and shovel work when all this was. This was just a Maryland father. Remember? He's just a Maryland dad. He just some guy, a Maryland dad. You know, like a former Colts fan that's now a Ravens fan. He's just a Maryland daddy. Nothing could be farther from the truth. And Michael Patrick Leahy exposed it. Okay, let's be honest. You never thought it would get this far. Maybe you missed the Last IRS deadline or you haven't filed taxes in a while. Let me be clear. The IRS is cracking down harder than ever and this ain't gonna go away anytime soon. That's why you need Tax Network usa. They don't just know the irs. They have a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to deal with and which to avoid. Their expert negotiators have one gold settle your tax problems quickly and in your favor. Their team has helped clear over $1 billion in tax debt. Whether you owe 10,000 or 10 million, even if your books are a mess or you haven't filed in years, Tax Network USA can help. But don't wait. This won't fix itself. Call Tax Network USA right now. It's free. Talk to a strategist. And finally, put this behind you. Call 1-800-958-1000. That's 1-800-958-10000 or visit tnusa.com bannon make sure you tell them, Bannon. You'll get a free evaluation. That's 1-800-958-1000. Do not letters from the IRS or your failure to file work on your nerves anymore. Take action, action, action. And do it today. People deported in error are returned. But instead, Reuveni says that in a phone call from a superior, he was ordered to argue against Abrego Garcia's return by telling a judge that Abrego Garcia was an Ms. 13 gang member and a terrorist.
Erez Rovini
And I respond up to up the chain of command, no way. That is not correct. That is not factually correct. It is not legally correct. That is, that is a lie and I cannot sign my name to that brief.
Steve Bannon
Okay, Leahy, we're always pressed for time, but I want you to tell the audience because you're the guy, you're the guy that turned him from a Maryland dad to a gang member because of the research you did with the, I think Tennessee State Police records and others. Give me the reasons why that is inaccurate, sir.
Michael Patrick Leahy
Because two 2019 immigration court judge rulings determined that there was enough evidence that he was an MS.13 gang member that he was not released during his deportation hearing order. That was evidence that Raveni should have, could have and had a duty to present the court, but he chose not to. He got fired because he didn't zealously represent his client. Also, he, he failed to properly point out to the court this. In that deportation order with the withholding of removal from 2019, the black letter of the order said you can't Send him to Guatemala. It's right there in black and white, like four times. He didn't present that information to the court. So that was another error on his part. And number three, he violated attorney client privilege. He's representing the government, and now he's going and giving information that to the other side, he was really representing the defendant. That's why he got basically was fired by doj. Also, that CBS report.
Steve Bannon
Yep.
Michael Patrick Leahy
They failed to report that the case was brought in the wrong venue. Those terrorists, those Venezuelan terrorists were in Texas. That's where the, the, the case should have been brought, but it was brought to Judge Boasberg in D.C. why? Because he hates Donald Trump and everybody knows that. Finally, big time, they also claimed that he violated court order. A court order given verbally is not a court order. It's got to be written. By the time that written court order was delivered, all of those Venezuelan gang members had been deported to El Salvador.
Steve Bannon
So Barry Wise showed courage in putting up the Netanyahu thing, which, you know, she's very pro Israel. And this buries Netanyahu. A brutal interview with Witkoff and Jared Kushner. But this somehow got under the radar scope. And you've got the facts. You brought the receipts. What are you requesting of Barry Weiss? Because Barry Weiss, people should know is like in. She's like Army Command in Saigon in 1968. She got nothing but enemy around her as soon as she went and Talked to the 60 Minutes people about this exact topic. You're biased against the truth, against the facts. And they're all up in arms. And they leaked it immediately to the. Immediately to the New York Times before she's even out of the room. What remedy are you looking for for this poor woman?
Michael Patrick Leahy
From the direct message. I have a direct message for Bari Weiss. I want at the Tennessee Star and individually, Michael Patrick leahy. I want 13 minutes of unedited primetime on CBS News to rebut. To rebut this completely biased and anti Trump piece of propaganda. That's what I want.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on. How about if you did that 13 minutes on 60 Minutes with Scott Pelley interrogating you, sir, would you. Are you down for that?
Michael Patrick Leahy
I'll take it as long as I can have my own camera there.
Steve Bannon
Exactly. And do your own editing. Leahy, you're the best. This is very important. You called him right out. I know the President. United States is going to love this, where they go to get you your all your information, your show, the Tennessee Star, all of it, sir.
Michael Patrick Leahy
On X. You can Find me at Michael P. Leahy and tennessee star.com. tennessee star.com is a website where you can get all of this great breaking news.
Steve Bannon
You know, Leahy, you got like 50 jobs, you're working 24, seven. And then you went to law school at night. You've been a man on fire ever since then. The worst they allowed to happen is let Leahy go to law school. Sir, thank you. Appreciate you.
Michael Patrick Leahy
Thanks, Steve.
Steve Bannon
Mark Mitchell, your polling here recently has been so profound and so deep in talking about where the, where the country is in this crisis we currently, we currently have. You've got something new and quite explosive tonight. What do you got, sir?
Mark Mitchell
I'm uncovering more stuff about COVID And we talk about how all the mainstream pollsters lie by fudging the numbers by over and over again misrepresenting things. But one of the ways that they like to lie and to shill for the establishment is by carefully deciding not to ask important questions. And so people who follow Rasmussen Reports know that we'll actually dig into it. We'll show that Americans want to deport everybody in the United States. Imagine that. That's what explains Donald Trump's win. Things like that. Well, one of the things that every single one of them, every single one of them turned their nose up, decided not to go into was vaccine safety. And as far as I know, in the entire industry, the only other pollster that pulled at all about vaccine safety was Rich Barrett, the people's pundit. And he told me personally he lost clients. He had people text him, what are you doing? You're going to ruin your business. What's going on here? Why are you doing this? But fortunately for America, Rasmussen Reports had been so written off by the establishment that we decided to pull on this in the fall of 2022. And we thought, you know, this might be one of those things. It's a fringe conspiracy theory. We'll probably find small numbers. And the very first question we asked was whether or not people had a major or minor side effect from the vaccine. And we broke the news on your show. 7% major side effect rate, another 31%. It was massive. So we've been asking about this time and time again and every single one comes back worse and worse and worse. We ask people if they know something.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, this is it. Don't bury the league. Give me that. They know something. Personally, that number, I think was even more shocking. When we, you told me on the show, I was like, what? Give us that.
Mark Mitchell
Oh, I know, right? And it's like you probably had a cold open of some weather person dropping dead on on air in front of America. And 28%, 28% of Americans thought it was at least, you know, someone agreed that they know somebody personally who died from the COVID vaccines.
Steve Bannon
Wow.
Mark Mitchell
The number kept going up. And then we got a number close to half of Americans who said it's at least somewhat likely the vaccines are killing a significant number of Americans. Well, just recently, the number still been going up. We had 56% of likely voters said that it was likely the vaccines are killing a significant number of people. Now, that's the thing, is that Donald Trump won because of accountability, because of pushback. A lot of it was because of COVID And Americans want all of these wrongs righted. And I'll tell you, we haven't really heard a whole lot about what's going on with this stuff. And it pisses me off so much to sit here and know, well, trust in America's health industry is completely gone because of COVID Now, by a 2 to 1 margin, people say that they have to take their own health information into their own hands. They can't just rely on a doctor. And you have all these doctors still sitting at the top of this regulatory pyramid who have a revolving door to industry, who are running cover for industry, who are, quite frankly, siphoning trillions of dollars with sick care. We all know it. It's one of the reasons that our republic is going to die, because we are funding massive amounts of people in a sick care system that is just basically legalized. Grift, like, that's really what's going on. There's so much corruption and we haven't heard any really anything about it. Well, I'm here to just stick one more, you know, knife in the dagger of the shrouded corpse. And that is nobody has pulled on the hospital treatment protocols for Covid, Literally not a single person. And we're talking about here the implications of over a million people died from COVID most of them in the hospitals, most of them with a lot of questions about ventilators and remdesivir and other things. You know, we heard the stories about how you lose your license if you let anybody get treated with ivermectin. But without our polling, it would all be anecdotal. It would all be super easy to sweep under the rug. And of course, they'll still try to sweep this under the rug. So here's the two questions. And we literally just did this for 1400Americans, has somebody you know personally died from COVID 19 while being treated in a hospital? 32% of America says yes, 58% say no. And then asked of those people, how likely is it that hospital treatment protocols for COVID 19 contributed to their deaths? 30% very likely. Another 17% somewhat. For a combined total of 47%, almost half. And only 14% say not at all likely. Only 36% say not likely. So it's plus 11. So it's most people, most people who have an opinion on why that person died. It would be a majority. If you remove the not sures. And there's a bipartisan signal. 34% of Democrats think it's likely, but 58% of Republicans and 52% of independents. Only 33% of independents say no. So this is pretty solid. People are like, yeah, there's reasons to question this stuff. And what's really wild is you can even see the mama bear signal. Women under 40 are overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly more likely to say this. 56% very likely. 30% somewhat. And the age signal is also incredible. Of the 65 and older, only 21% say very likely. Another 14% somewhat. So that's 35. But look at the 18 and 29s. 56%, 31% very likely. Really stunning signal. It's almost 2 to 1among 18 and 29 year olds.
Steve Bannon
Wow.
Mark Mitchell
So that also shows that, listen, establishment, you're not going to be able to run away from the Internet. These people are asking hard questions about literally everything, about the very capitalistic system that we live in, about foreign influence, about the ways that everything's been corrupted. And I think that we are not hitting this idea of accountability hard enough. Because I'm telling you, I try and stay rooted in this like sort of zoomer online culture, more so than I think most people. And what's being talked about isn't like, oh, isn't it great? Republicans are giving us everything they voted for. It's like, no, why isn't this system burning down fast enough? That's, I think, accurately captures what I see anecdotally on the Internet.
Steve Bannon
Let me ask you, is Bobby Kennedy. Because, you know, recently, ever since they held back the 500 million in research for Big Pharma, and maybe it hasn't been pounded hard enough. But you can see he's getting started, getting traction. Is that getting, is that resonating with anybody or. Because I keep recommending they got to go bigger on their media narrative. You got Bobby Kennedy, got the President, but it's not having the, it's not having the push that you have to do to get through the white noise. Do you think that Bobby Kennedy's actions are enough at least to turn it around with some of these people? And do you think the messaging is amplified enough and at such a scale that, that it's going to break through the white noise and get to the American people?
Mark Mitchell
Remember the days of thunder. Remember the shock and awe as we saw USAID funding network piping all this money into leftist NGOs.
Michael Patrick Leahy
Yes.
Mark Mitchell
We automatically realized, no, it's not George Soros that's just doing this for ideological reasons. It's a whole web of leverage, basically, of arbitrage of influence. Arbitrage. And how when you and I were processing all that stuff, you probably knew about it. But for me, it was an eye opener. This is way worse than we thought, but also more systematic and understandable than we thought. There was like an aha moment. Well, in the polling, it's almost like America reflexively felt that too, because we were setting right direction records. Remember, 60% of 18 to 39 year olds were like, yeah, we're going to get a second golden age under Trump. Like this is happening. He had a 60% approval rating among 18 to 29. Like it was wild. And it was because of Doge and it was because I think this idea of, I don't think there's any specific one thing that America knows. Well, if I got that, we'll be happy, everything will be fixed. But I think it's this pot of boiling water that we're still sitting in. People I think will start to, you know, connect the dots and say, well, you know, not enough of this has been changed. And so again, we need to see more. And I can't specifically say what that is because I'm not looking at the grand juries. I don't know what evidence they have on these people. But we need to know because again, I don't want to get anybody sued for defamation here, Steve. But when you hear the story specifically about how that one drug used pretty ubiquitously in the hospital treatment protocols, got its emergency youth authorization and what safety trials were done and, and the people involved and whether they used to be at regulatory agencies and then became not and they went to industry, it stinks. It absolutely stinks. And people in this polling are tying the treatment protocols to deaths, like real deaths in a non partisan way. I mean, and again, people could say, oh, it's not polling. You're just polling people who answer polls. It's like, okay, I defy anybody in the industry to prove me wrong.
Steve Bannon
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Stan Vojavodsky
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Steve Bannon
Mitchell, we gotta go and I want to get your coordinates but I have one question. I think intuitively the 18 to 30 year old, 18 to 29 year old understand this why I say the most based generation, particularly young men in American history, they internally know why did people do this? All the action you talk about, they did it for one reason. What was that reason?
Mark Mitchell
I mean this is the system has been destroyed. These people should be inheriting America in its golden age. They should be the most optimistic and they think the systems failed them. They don't look forward to their future with optimism. Many of them are suffering from mental health. They've been literally turned into the pariah of our modern society and they're angry now and they're not conservative. When we've talked about this a lot and I'll just say one thing for the Trump administration. If anybody in the administration is watching you watching me go look on YouTube for moist criticals video and asmongold's reaction to it, millions of people in the 18 to 29 year old bracket, most of the men are going to be watching that and they're angry and it's because they're not seeing enough accountability. People on the right and the left are looking at it and saying, what do I see? I see a lot of like, paradoxes, like, why was the Trump administration leaning into anti vax stuff? And now Trump just got a vaccine a week ago. Like, what's with all this, you know, crypto stuff? Like, what's with these business deals? Like, why are these people that we've been told are going to be arrested not being arrested? And whether that stuff's right or wrong, it's the optics and people are asking hard questions about that and getting angry now. So if you want to know the 18 to 29 year olds, talk to Barrett. He'll tell you who to watch. That's, I think that's what it comes down to.
Steve Bannon
Mark Mitchell, what are your coordinates, sir?
Mark Mitchell
Rasmussen underscore poll at YouTube. We'll probably cover this polling on a stream tomorrow night at 9pm Eastern. Ras Rasmussen underscore poll on Twitter. And I'm at Honest Pollster. And please, like we've made everybody an enemy and so neither party is paying to, you know, have us help them win. We're independent and basically all of corporate America despises us. So if people want to support us, they can go to RasmussenReports.com sign up for a couple bucks a month. As a reader, that's really where most of our revenue comes from and it's not USAID or the dark money NGOs.
Steve Bannon
So you're the perfect poster, your perfect pollster for the war room posse. All corporate America hate you in both political parties.
Mark Mitchell
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Date: October 20, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon (with WarRoom.org)
Featured Guests: Stan Vojavodsky, Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, Michael Patrick Leahy, Mark Mitchell (Rasmussen), Mike Lindell, Erez Reuveni (DOJ whistleblower, via CBS), and various audio segments.
This episode centers on pivotal legal and geopolitical developments affecting the United States:
The episode is as much a celebration of Trump-aligned victories and narratives as it is a forum for warning about ongoing challenges—particularly from China, “the regime,” and mainstream institutions.
[00:00 - 03:18]
[01:58, 07:40, 09:53 - 14:45, 16:51 - 18:59, 21:16]
Australian PM Anthony Albanese joins (prerecorded statement) emphasizing cooperation on rare earths and defense:
Stan Vojavodsky breaks down the rare earth deal’s importance:
Bannon underscores the economic "warfare" underway, warning of increased “ugly” tactics by China in the rare earths sector.
[23:44 - 31:49]
Segment on Justice Department whistleblower Erez Reuveni (via CBS “60 Minutes”):
Michael Patrick Leahy enters to rebut, roundly attacking both Reuveni and CBS News:
Bannon frames the segment as exposing “the primal scream of a dying regime.” Adds that those undermining Trump are flailing or manipulating facts.
[34:10 - 46:53]
Mark Mitchell (Rasmussen): Delivers recent polling data exposing deep mistrust in healthcare, COVID-19 vaccines, and hospital protocols among Americans.
Bannon: Connects the polling results to wider generational cynicism and a sense that both parties and the system have failed young Americans.
[03:18 - 05:31]
Progressive activist voices concerns over military intervention in peaceful protest and praises local opposition movements.
Bannon and panelists mock the scale, diversity, and effectiveness of these protests.
Steve Bannon (00:18): “It is a big deal. And I want to just correct one thing and then explain why functional it is the same. This is a stay of Judge Immigrants opinion ...allowing the President to send the National Guard back onto the streets of Portland.”
Progressive Activist (03:18): “Getting people on the ground gets people connected with those community networks, which gives them the ability to resist against Trump's regime every single day.”
Steve Bannon (04:41): “This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.”
Australian PM Albanese (01:58): “We've had a very good relationship. ...We fought wars together, we never had any doubts. And it's a great honor to have you as my friend.”
Stan Vojavodsky (13:12): “It’s also a very strong message... It projects, you know, continued naval supremacy and the notion that the US remains the world's leading naval force, augmented now with Australia and the UK.”
Erez Reuveni (24:13): “It felt like a bomb had gone off. ...We really did tell the courts. We don't care about your order. ...That was just a real gut punch.”
Michael Patrick Leahy (26:16): “His claim that there was no evidence that Kilmar abrego Garcia had Ms. 13 ties is just a flat out lie.”
Mark Mitchell (34:10): “And we thought, you know, this might be one of those things. It's a fringe conspiracy theory. We'll probably find small numbers. And the very first question we asked was whether or not people had a major or minor side effect from the vaccine. ...7% major side effect rate, another 31%. It was massive.”
Mark Mitchell (35:45): “28% of Americans... know somebody personally who died from the COVID vaccines. ...56% of likely voters said that it was likely the vaccines are killing a significant number of people.”
Steve Bannon (46:42): “So you're the perfect poster, your perfect pollster for the war room posse. All corporate America hate you in both political parties.”
Episode 4865 is an archetypal War Room production—binding together legal victories, anti-CCP saber-rattling, exposés of supposed regime misconduct, deep generational distrust, and calls to arms for grassroots and institutional resistance. For listeners, it provides a detailed, forceful take on current events as experienced and interpreted by the pro-Trump movement. The episode is deeply oppositional—toward media, the “regime,” and global adversaries—while emphasizing Trump-era restoration of American authority and alliances.