Episode 4867: Making America Healthy Again And Stopping Chronic Disease

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room, Episode 4867

Title: Making America Healthy Again And Stopping Chronic Disease
Date: October 21, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guests: Mike Lindell, Steve Cortez, Trevor Comstock

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Overview

This episode explores the intersection of American health, economic and political pivots, and the MAGA movement’s agenda to “Make America Healthy Again” (MAHA). Stephen K. Bannon and guests address the nation's economic frailty, the grip of Big Pharma and Big Food, and the urgent need for a populist response to chronic disease and systemic debt. The episode also includes pointed criticisms of establishment foreign policy, the weaponization of federal agencies, illegal immigration, and the influence of corporate and globalist interests.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. America’s Economic Pivot & Debt Crisis

Host Bannon launches into the episode by critiquing the post-WWII global order, blaming the current debt emergency and economic instability on globalization and U.S. subsidization of “protectorates” like Europe and Israel ([00:34–07:00]).

• He claims Europe is unwilling and unable to defend itself, citing Macron’s instability, UK and Germany’s economic woes, and the lack of support for Ukraine beyond U.S. efforts.
• Quote: "The elites in Germany destroyed one of the greatest industrial powers on Earth." – Bannon ([03:37])

Steve Cortez later analyzes the five routes out of the global debt crisis (cut spending, promote growth, raise taxes, default, or inflate), warning that unless the first three are addressed, default and inflation are inevitable ([21:50–27:36]).

• Quote: “If we don’t do the first three, inevitably we are going to the latter two, number four and five, meaning both default as well as massive inflation.” – Cortez ([22:57])
• Cortez advocates for higher taxes on the ultra-wealthy, a less militaristic foreign policy, and systemic health reform to cut costs.

2. Big Pharma, Big Food, and Chronic Disease

The episode introduces the MAHA (Make America Healthy Again) agenda and previews a related documentary, highlighting how America spends more on healthcare yet yields poorer results ([29:17–31:29]).

• Chronic disease rates are soaring, with half of children facing health issues and nearly 40% of young adults pre-diabetic.
• Quote: "You cannot have a cheap food policy and have a healthy population." – Bannon ([30:19])
• Cortez ties health to economics and coalition-building: “We cannot have a strong nation without strong citizens. But it's also an economic necessity… This is the clearest path, the clearest and widest path to further growing our coalition." ([32:11])

Bannon and Cortez both blame Big Food and Big Pharma:

• Big Food promotes ultra-processed, health-harming ingredients.
• Big Pharma profits off managing (not curing) chronic illness, ensuring Americans remain lucrative customers.

Solution Pathways Discussed

• Regenerative agriculture, real preventive & curative healthcare, ending pharma advertising, and breaking legislative capture by industry.
• Quote: “Big Pharma owns both political parties… every lobbyist, every law firm, every crisis communications person, all the law, you know, everybody.” – Bannon ([36:13])

3. War on Federal Overreach and Targeted Individuals

Mike Lindell discusses personal and professional persecution by federal agencies and legal challenges, framing himself (and other MAGA figures like Charlie Kirk and Trump) as targets in a broader government crackdown ([08:38–14:44]).

• FBI raids, legal harassment, and what he sees as religious targeting of his Christian-based recovery network.
• Quote: "I will never settle… these illegals got to go and all this nonsense. We're on the offense now." – Lindell ([11:43])
• Bannon reinforces this as symptomatic of deeper efforts to silence dissenting voices and destroy feisty, values-based enterprises.

4. Immigration, Social Cohesion, and Labor Policy

Bannon rails against illegal immigration and the influence of special interest groups pushing exceptions for various sectors, asserting the need to “send all illegal aliens home,” end H1B and international student programs, and prioritize American citizens ([08:39–11:43], [46:00–48:00]).

• Frames illegal immigration as a threat to the American republic and labor force, disproportionately harming minorities and working-class citizens.
• Quote: “All illegal aliens must leave the country. I don't care if Wall Street tells it's going to hurt the economy… The corporations say it's going to hurt wages… They gotta go home.” – Bannon ([10:00])

5. Political Strategy: Coalition Building Around Health

Cortez stresses the political potency of the health issue:

• Health is an area with wide crossover appeal, especially among women and non-MAGA voters ([32:11–34:00]).
• RFK Jr. is held up as a model of bipartisan/populist resonance, credited with increasing Cortez’s own health consciousness.
• Quote: “If we do the right thing in this arena, we're going to reap the political benefits. Because this is the clearest path, the clearest and widest path to further growing our coalition.” – Cortez ([32:11])

6. Solutions & Infrastructure Promotion

Trevor Comstock details the benefits of tallow-based, all-natural skincare and the contrast with mainstream products, tying such choices to the MAHA and “buy American” ethos ([48:03–50:28]).

7. Geopolitical Tensions & Asset Seizures

Bannon explains how Europe’s seizure of Russian assets marks a new era of lawlessness, warning of inflation and the further unraveling of US/euro global leadership ([04:52–07:00], [27:36–31:00]):

• “They're going to steal the Russian people's money. Something we didn't do with Nazi Germany… Something we didn't do with the Bolsheviks… But you're going to do it to the Russian people.” – Bannon ([05:09])
• Impact: undermining the euro, encouraging gold and tangible asset investment.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved." – Bannon, opening the show ([00:34])
• "They need a war, sir. Kyiv needs a war. Needs a war. Can't pay for it. Has no troops... Zero. They have no political will." – Bannon, on Europe's Ukraine policy ([07:30–08:38])
• "We spend more money on healthcare than any nation in history and yet America is sicker than ever." – Cortez documentary clip ([29:36])
• "You either pay at the cash register or you pay down at the hospital." – Documentary voiceover ([30:37])
• "The future costs are insurmountable... If we put together and hammer a greater alliance... between maga, the populist nationalists and maga, the Make America Healthy Again and the Parental rights movement, it's unbeatable and the left knows that." – Bannon ([39:26])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:34–07:00: Bannon’s monologue – economic policy, Ukraine, the European crisis
• 08:38–14:44: Mike Lindell interview – government persecution, legal battles, faith-based recovery
• 21:50–27:36: Steve Cortez – global debt crisis, 5 possible solutions, role of inflation
• 29:17–31:29: Documentary audio – chronic disease, healthcare failures (MAHA/Robert Kennedy)
• 32:11–34:00: Cortez on coalition building around health, RFK Jr.’s impact
• 36:13–39:26: Bannon and Cortez – breaking Big Pharma’s grip on politics/media
• 48:03–50:28: Trevor Comstock – natural skincare & MAHA lifestyle
• 46:00–48:00: Bannon – immigration, labor, and protecting American jobs

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Tone, Language, and Style

• Direct, often combative; strong populist, nationalist, and anti-establishment rhetoric.
• Frequent attribution of malice to “elites,” “globalists,” “Big Pharma/Food,” and establishment politicians.
• Use of memorable, sometimes hyperbolic phrases ("primal scream of a dying regime"; “the most murderous group, collection of thieves, bandits, demons”).
• Solution-oriented discourse focused as much on political mobilization as on health and economic reform.

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Concluding Insight

The episode frames American health not only as a moral and medical issue but as a linchpin for economic recovery, political success, and sovereignty. The “pivot” Bannon describes is from endless foreign entanglements to a domestically-focused renewal—rooted in health, manufacturing, and civic identity—and united against both government overreach and corporate oligarchy.

For listeners, the message is clear: the path to saving both the nation’s body and its soul runs through grassroots, populist action against entrenched interests—especially in healthcare and food—and demands bold, often controversial solutions.

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Transcript

[A]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[B]

And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[A]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen k. Banner. Tuesday, 21st October in the year of Lord 2025. In this hour, I am going to discuss President Trump in a big pivot to domestic issues. And President Trump's not spending all this time on geopolitics and trying to bring priests to certain areas for his own gratification. He's doing it because he understands that in trying to get our economy, because we're plugged into a global economy, trying to get our economy right, certain things you've got to stop, like these wars and particularly the economic war, China. But why do you ask, why do I watch War Room? Why do I watch Bannon and all these people he brings on here, they're all crazy. You know, he's always yelling and screaming and doing all these rants and got all these people up here doing all kind of radical stuff. They're all marginal because this is the place you actually get news and information that are years before the mainstream media catches up. Right? To wit. Well, what do you mean by that, Steve? Okay, we told you that this whole Zelinsky in the Ukraine situation and all of it. Right, was a total scam and should have never been started back three years ago. What? We got all this death and President Trump's trying to stop it. But we said, principally because the Europeans are not our allies. They're not. It's a protectorate, like Israel's a protectorate. They're not allies don't put anything in the kitty. They don't help strengthen us. It's a drag. Just like I said, Middle east is a sideshow and Israel's a sideshow to the sideshow. Now you get Tel Aviv Levin. I'll get into more of this probably this afternoon. He's tweeting. He loves President Trump so much and they're loving on Trump and Trump's the best guy for Israel. Now they're sitting there saying, you got to go against what President Trump's put together flat out. Then you got to go against him. Got to go against him. Yeah, you'd love. You love Trump. This is. I'm just waiting you for flip to the Ted Cruz. The Israel first got their candidate, Ted Cruz, duly note, like I said again about Desantis and I said about Nikki Haley, all Ted Cruz is never going to be the President of these United States. Okay? Not going to happen. So you spend all your time, all your money run around, get on that. It's not going to happen. Not going to happen. But what do I mean about this? Trump had them all here six, seven, eight weeks ago. And they're all talking big. They're going to do this. Boom.

[C]

They're going to boom.

[A]

They're going to provide arms and weapons and troops at the point of contact. They're going to go to the point of contact and have a security guarantee. And what happened? President Trump told Zelensky, no offense, you're not getting tomahawks, flat out. And they came in with their chests, they're beating their chest. They thought they were going to get them, these fools, because the Europeans went back down and told them they got no money, no weapons, no troops, and most importantly, no political will. There's no support in those countries to do this. And the Economist, which I'll get to in a minute, the coming debt emergency. The debt emergency. Hello, who's been saying debt emergency? This is about the margin call. They also go through all the nations of Europe and they're all broken. Macron's about to get tossed at. The Fifth Republic's about to crater. He's running through a new prime minister every couple of days, right? England's broke, Starmer's dead broke. Broke Germany. Because in this headline here, how Mertz's Economic Promise turned sour. You ever heard Dave Walsh up here talking about them going back to this fantasy of net carbon zero? They destroyed their own economy. The elites in Germany destroyed one of the greatest industrial powers on Earth. Destroyed it. And so what's today's headline? And what's today's headline? What's today's headline? And you wonder why we went with Birch gold and wrote the end of the dollar empire and said, watch out, some stuff's going to happen here.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

And why gold has taken a pop over the last couple weeks? Because it's not the daily price, it's what's underneath it. Europe rallies to Zelinsky's aid after tussle with Trump. Europe rallies to Zelinsky's aid after tussle with Trump. Sub headline, EU seeks deal on frozen Russian assets. Wow, where have we heard that? Oh, yeah, Steve, you talked about that for a couple of years. EU seeks deal on frozen Russian assets. Threat of more sanctions on Moscow. Flat out, they're going to steal the Russian people's money. Something we didn't do with Nazi Germany. Something we didn't do with the fascists in Italy. Something we didn't do with Imperial Japan. Something we didn't do with the Bolsheviks. We didn't do with the Soviets. We didn't do with the Chinese Communist Party. We didn't do it with Pol Pot. You got the most murderous group, collection of thieves, bandits, demons. We didn't do it then. But you're going to do it to the Russian people. Oh, you're going to do it to the people that were our allies in World War II. And remember, none of this scum, except for England, we're our allies. Spain, not an ally. Neutral Italy think they were fascists. The French folded in six weeks and I understand World War I brutalized them. Folded in six weeks and then became worse on the Jews than the Nazis of turning people in. The Vichy French, Norway bad as the Nazis, the quislings. Sweden neutral like my Ireland. When you're neutral, you're on Hitler's side. So when you talk about NATO being great allies, like where have they been great allies they weren't in a cold War. Come on, man, are you ridiculous? They put in almost nothing. It's always the United States. This is the scam of globalization. This is the scam of the post war international rules based order. You pay for it, your children, your money. They're protectors and not allies now because they don't have any money of their own, as I've told you. Reinforced now by the economist that tells you they're all broke and all heading toward debt emergencies, as you can see every day in the French press. Now they're going to steal the Russian people's money looking for a deal on frozen Russia. Not just the interest. They're going to steal their money. Steal their money and use it to fund Zelensky fighting this war and killing more Ukrainians, killing more Ukraine, because he's like Bibi, if he doesn't have this war, he's out. And Bibi's going to be in prison. Netanyahu is going to be in prison. So is Zelensky. They know it. So they got to keep fighting. And they don't care how many people they kill, and they don't care how many people they drag into this. They do not care. They don't. And now it's time to face reality. Zelensky should never darken the White House again. It is actually awful. And I'm glad President Trump finally had a belly full of it. And he told him right to his face, these guys all went in with their chest pumped up and they thought, man, we're getting Tomahawks. You know why? Because Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton and all this crowd, the warmongers, the guys controlled by the defense industry, all telling me, we got this. Just go in there, just put your order in. You're going to get yourself some Tomahawks. You're going to launch those things into Moscow and St. Petersburg. Are you crazy? Do you want to have this conflict? Leave the Bloodlands and go to other places? Because it will. And the Europeans got nothing. They need a war, sir. Kyr needs a war. Needs a war. Can't pay for it. Has no troops. How many troops they put up to go to the point of contact for the. For the. For the security guarantee?

[B]

Zero.

[A]

They have no political will. We get back to that in a moment. Mike Lindell, you join me. And I want to make sure. Lindell. So we had o' Keefe, that the FBI was all over and tried to put him in prison, kicked down his door, took him out there, almost bucked naked, made him stand in a hallway to humiliate him, just like they did to Peter Navarro. Peter Navarro, they cuffed and shackled like a dog, like a murderer for a misdemeanor, and dragged him down the tarmac at National Airport so everybody could sit there and mock him. What did they do with Lindell? Lindell showed up at a fast food place so it could be the most public place possible to harass him and take his electronic gear. Everybody that they went after understand they're at the tip of the tip of the spear to fight this. And they understand. And this is why the left is targeting guys like Charlie Kirk and they've targeted Donald Trump. Do not think Trump has passed danger at all. These people are violent. They're. They're Marxist, they're jihadists. And they also understand that democracy is not going to work for them because they don't have the votes. It's too insane for average folks to vote for. So this is why they're getting more and more violent. It's spinning into more and more chaos and everything's about illegal aliens. Oh, they don't want them. And these Christian priests, some group of Christian preachers up there saying, hey, my, my, my congregation is down 35%. But then that means your congregation, bro, is 35% illegal aliens. I'm sorry. They're going to have to take the word of Christ and the living God and they're going to have to go back home and embrace it. Hopefully you trained them up enough, you got them enough word of God, they can see you live Christianity. But they're not staying here. They're not staying here. And all you're whining and you go, they just should get the criminals. All illegal aliens must leave the country. I don't care if Wall street tells it's going to hurt the economy. The corporations say it's going to hurt wages. The preachers say it's going to hurt the congregations. Yeah, everybod, it's going to hurt. But it got to go home. You're destroying the American republic and you're destroying the American citizens and you're destroying the American people and our social cohesion. So it's got to. Trump stopped him coming in, but now they got to go home and we got to stop all the H1B scams, all of it. And send them home, too. Unless on top of it, just for good measure, to send all the Chinese students home. How about this? All of them home. All of them home. And all the benefits of what they go to the American citizens. So, Mike Lindell, the FBI tried to do everything to you and they tried to destroy your company. And now you got a company that's suing you that just got caught for money laundering and bribing politicians. Not that they ever did any of that here in the United States, I'm sure. Right, that's now suing you for billions of dollars. Are you groveling? Did you apologize this morning? Have you settled, sir?

[C]

Absolutely. I will never settle. And this has all come out or this judge in Minnesota ruled against that. Mypillow and myself defaming this smart medic who is all over the news how corrupt they are. And then, Steve, another thing, too. People don't realize. Keith Ellison, there's another one that hates our country, the Attorney General of Minnesota. He's attacking Mike Lindell, my Lindell Recovery Network for addicts, to get him out of it.

[A]

Hang on, hang on. Why? Okay, but let's. Okay, let's. Let's cut to the chase on this. Let's be blunt. He's a radical Muslim. That's Coming after your network because it's a Christian based network. Am I incorrect on that, Sir?

[C]

You are 100% right, Steve. 100% right. He and this has been going on for quite a while but he's. All this has been turned up over the last couple months. It's like I don't know if it's a fear of, of you know, that I'm not going to stop talking or not going to settle because I won't settle. And they. These, you're spot on, Steve. These illegals got to go and all this nonsense. This, this. We're on the offense now. Everybody we're, you know, I believe this country is 80, 20 country, 80% common sense. And but they've had the media and everything else just brainwashing and attacking and brainwashing and brainwashing. Steven? Yeah, CN said the other day, they said you think this, all this reports coming about of these crooked voting machine companies that it'll help Mike Lindell in my pillow? Well, absolutely it will because I've been selling the alarm for four and a half, four and a half years and, and finally.

[A]

Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Let me blunt. If they money laundered and bribe politicians, this is why they money laundered had to figure out how to get the cash to them kickbacks in the Philippines and in Asia in the third world. I, you know, I'm, I would be shocked. Shocked. It's hard to shock me but I'd be shocked if maybe some of that wasn't done in certain states. Are we investigating these guys? I mean it looks like a money laundering and kickback scam, does it not Michael? It looks like the machines are just a means to an end to make money for all the parties involved. Am I wrong in surmising that after reading the indictment in the Philippines, sir.

[C]

You know, you're spot on, Steve. It's not just what the, what these compute computers are capable of manipulating things. But with this, this company in particular, the, the bribery, this stuff, we've had evidence for four and a half years. I spent tens of millions dollars gathering every single piece of evidence in this country on that company, Dominion Smart Magic. All the machine companies, all the voting machine companies and you know, that's another one too. There's, there's another one Dominion saying they're bought out by Liberty Vote and they're going to drop all the, drop all the cases against my pillow and Rudy Giuliani.

[A]

Mike, I don't understand.

[C]

Drop my cases deep. They didn't drop my cases hang.

[A]

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[B]

Well, first I'm glad to see that the Economist is finally waking up to the reality that the rules based international order, right, which they constantly laud, is economically a farce. It clearly does not work, has not worked for regular people and now puts the entire world, including the United States into a deep debt crisis of their five scenarios or you know, quasi solutions. Here's the thing, if we don't do the first three, inevitably we are going to the latter two, number four and five, meaning both default as well as massive inflation. Unfortunately, a lot of smart financial markets, particularly gold and crypto, I would also say real estate, right now they're betting on number five. So a lot of very smart money is saying inflation is persistent, it's sticky, it's systemic, not transitory, that's for sure. And here to stay. Hence gold at $4,400, hence housing. That's totally unaffordable in the United States. But here's the good news is if we pursue all the, all of the first three at once, concurrently cut spending, I believe we can cut on defense. And by the way, related to what we're going to talk about on Maha, we get a lot healthier, we could spend a lot less on health care. That's how we achieve, number one, don't make war all over the world, get our people healthier at home. Number two, this pro growth strategy is starting to work. Real wages are rising in our country. That's a huge benefit to this land. So again, we do have the, the glide path out. It's not easy, but there is an escape route. There is an escape route from this, but that path gets narrower and narrower every day that we don't care as a country and that Washington D.C. as a city and as an institution, permanent Washington doesn't care about this. So for once I really agree with the Economist. I do agree with them on the gravity of the situation right now and I agree with them that those are the only real plausible outcomes but the way to avoid 4 and 5 is to in fact those first things and including by the way, number three, which we're not doing, which is that we should be taxing the ultra wealthy at a much, much higher level. We should be closing the carried interest loophole. Not only does it make sense economically, but would also pay great political dividends. I wish we'd done it last year, but it's not too late to do that during this Trump term. The wealthy need to pay a higher tax share, especially the super wealthy. It's an economic imperative and it will also reap political benefits.

[A]

I want to real quickly because they also say too that in the inflationary environment, gold, crypto, but particularly real estate, because bondholders and holders of, of obviously have cash, but holders of financial instruments will be hit, particularly with the fixed income will be hurt, be hit, but the real estate holdings will be made potentially exact opposite. What do you mean by that?

[B]

Yes. So look, think about. Real estate is a lot like gold, meaning there's a finite supply. Right. We add very little gold to the global market at any one time. There is no adding of land. Right. Zero land gets added to the total supply. On top of that, because of unfortunate regulations, you know, onerous zoning all over the country and a lot of hindrances in, it's very hard to develop land. Right. To build on that. So limited supply of land, very difficult to add additional housing and additional apartments in the United States. And so because of that, in an inflationary environment and where capital is betting that the route out from $37 trillion of debt is inflationary, those kinds of tangible, limited supply or finite supply assets become incredibly valuable. Now this is great for people who own a lot of assets. Which gets back again to that number three solution of we need to tax the ultra rich at a, at a higher rate. They're the ones who benefited from the run up of this debt. They need to pay the consequences of getting us out of it. But those kinds of folks are making bets that gold, crypto and land, those are the main investment vehicles, those are going to benefit from this inflationary environment. And so far they've been correct. Right. It's a self reinforcing process. But ultimately that's very harmful to Main street prosperity. It's very harmful to workers. Workers are starting to do better under President Trump. Real wages are rising again. That's magnificent. But if we want that trend to continue, we do need a lot more productivity and I believe we need to tax the rich, the ultra rich and we need to cut Government spending. Now, I know cutting spending is a gargantuan task in Washington D.C. but again, where do we do it? I think it's via defense. If we're not adventurous all over the world, if we're not supporting corrupt dictators like Zelensky, and if we get healthier as a nation, spend less on health care.

[A]

Your comments on gold in particular with this headline in the Financial Times of London. As we told you this was going to happen. They're dead broke and so they're going to steal the Russian people's money to give to Zelinsky to buy arms to go destroy the Russian people. I got it. Have you looked at your power bill lately? Electricity prices are at all time highs and they're only going up even worse. Power outages are becoming more and more common. In fact, according to the Department of Energy, Blackouts could increase 10,000% over the next few years. If you don't have a backup generator for your home, it's time to get one. The one I Recommend is the Grid Dr. 3300 solar generator from our friends at my Patriot Supply. Unlike gas generators, it's quiet, fume free and safe to use indoors. Yet it's powerful enough to run almost everything in your home. And with the free solar panel included, you'll have unlimited off grid power to outlast any storm, blackout or grid failure. Best of all, you can get the grid Dr. 3300 for zero down. And as little as 104 bucks a month when you shop@my patriotsupply.com Bannon that's right. 3300 watts of backup power delivered to your door for zero dollars down. See the page for more [e-mail] Bannon that's my patriotsupply.com Bannon this electricity issue is huge. Deal with it today with the grid Dr. 3300 from mypatriotsupply.com Bannon his goal.

[B]

Will be to make America healthy again.

[A]

Senator Kennedy has been shot.

[B]

This is an inescapable trauma. He's pushing back against people who've told him he's fraud. They're not playing by the rules. They're not using gold standard science.

[A]

He's the most famous Kennedy in America right now.

[B]

We spend more money on healthcare than any nation in history and yet America is sicker than ever.

[A]

The idea that science is a thing that can be possessed, that it is an endpoint, whereas it's not. It's a dynamic process. The infamous Tony Fauci statement. So if you are trying to get at me, you're really attacking not only Dr. Anthony Fauci, you're attacking science. He was functioning as a high priest in a belief system that we call scientism.

[B]

Half of our kids now live with chronic health issues. That number was 1% a few decades ago.

[A]

You cannot have a cheap food policy and have a healthy population.

[B]

Our model is not even designed to prevent disease or to cure it. Instead, it is designed to manage sickness, to keep you alive but not thriving.

[A]

More drugs are administered to our livestock in our country than actually to the people. And so the question is, who's drugging your dinner? You either pay at the cash register or you pay down at the hospital.

[B]

Nearly 40% of young adults are pre diabetic. Autism rates have gone from 1 in 10,000 in the 1980s to 1 in 36 today. Life expectancy just hit a 20 year low. The first phase of Baja is the kids. Thank God. The second phase is the lessons we learn from the children we're going to deploy in older demographics. That second phase of Baja is going to be phenomenal. What's going on here? And how do we make America healthy again?

[A]

Okay, okay. Do we play Cortez's also? Okay, fine. I want to play the Bobby Kennedy one. Both of them combined. Okay, Cortez, talk to me about Maha and talk to me about tonight at 10 o'. Clock. I want to get this right. The Bobby Kennedy doc plays at. And it's a front line plays at 10pm tonight. Correct. It may be two nights, folks, because it's two hours long. I don't think they're going to attend to midnight, but you never know. But it's ten o' clock tonight, at least for hour one, maybe both hours. Steve Cortez, you've also done another documentary. Why is Make America Healthy so important? Not just for the health of the country, but also politically right now, Sir.

[B]

Right. Well, listen, this is. It's a moral and societal imperative that we get healthy and strong again. We cannot have a strong nation without strong citizens. But it's also an economic necessity, as we've been discussing. And then furthermore, if we do the right thing in this arena, we're going to reap the political benefits. Because this is the clearest path, the clearest and widest path to further growing our coalition. Why? Because there's a lot of folks who may not call themselves MAGA or right wing, may not agree with us on a lot of issues, but they sure want to be healthier and they want their children to be healthier, particularly a lot of credentialed women, for example, they agree with us on this topic. So this is where we multiply and grow the coalition. And part of why I know that, by the way, empirically, is because I do so much polling, and month after month of polling, the most popular national politician in America is Robert F. Kennedy. He's somebody who appeals to Democrats, to independents. And so it is significant, of course, politically as well. I first met Robert F. Kennedy last fall, fall of 2024, right before the election. He was at the Al Smith Catholic Dinner in New York City where President Trump showed up. And Kamala Harris, of course, did not. Part of the reason why President Trump did so well among Catholic voters. I spoke with RFK and he really convinced me, personally, get healthier. I've gotten much healthier since then, eating much better at his behest and following his instructions. And I decided I'm going to do this documentary to showcase what is going on right now. And it's sort of a counterculture at the moment, but we want it to become the dominant culture. But there are doctors and farmers and moms all across this country. I found a bunch of them in Virginia. I purposefully filmed there ahead of these upcoming Virginia votes that we're going to see. And there happens to be a lot of national leaders in the Commonwealth of Virginia in your home state, Steve, who are doing this right, who believe in regenerative farming, who believe in health care that tries to prevent disease, and once disease does occur, to cure disease, not to simply manage chronic illness, moms who want their children to be healthier, to live vital lives. We spend more than any country in the world on health care, and yet we're getting the worst results of any advanced nation. Now, I'm not a doctor, but the bond trader in me says when you're spending record amounts both for your own country and relative to the rest of the world peer countries, and you're getting the worst results, then you have the wrong policies in place. And most of those wrong policies are coming because of the successful lobbying efforts of Big Food and Big Pharma. Big Food wants the inputs to poison our bodies. Ultra processed foods, which are great for them but terrible for our health. And then once chronic disease inevitably shows up, rather than curing it, Big Pharma is very happy to manage your sickness. They want you alive for a long time, but not thriving. And you are a customer for life then of both Big Food as well as Big Pharma. And both of those industries have enormous power in Washington D.C. but now with this populist revolt, with this populous electoral revolt, we have the power to reverse this. And RFK is taking the lead. But he's got an incredible team. People like Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, somebody I've just admired for years. He was the first foremost critic or one of the foremost critics of the public health authorities from the outside during the COVID panic and during the Biden years. He is now on the inside helping to run and reform the public health authorities in this country. That alone is just an incredible accomplishment of President Trump and of our movement. But. And it's a great, great first step, but a lot more to come. These victories right now are incremental. We want these victories to become expensive, exponential. And they will. And again, not only will it make us better as a country, healthier and happier, but it's going to save us economically. We simply can't afford the trajectory that we're on in terms of health care spending. So for both moral and spiritual reasons, for the physical vitality of our country, and then additionally, because of the economic necessity, we've got to enact the Maha agenda.

[A]

When you say enacted my heart agenda. This is the. Let's talk about political. The physics of modern American empire politics totally tied to money in this city, in the imperial capital, Big tech, the oligarchs, the corporatists, the arms industry, all of them, and it's more concentration of power than ever pale in comparison to the lethal nature of Big Pharma. Big Pharma owns both political parties. You see the efforts we're trying to make to get commercials taken off like every other nation in the world except for New Zealand and ourselves, which would put MSNBC permanently at. Make it a test pattern. Permanently. How do you face that reality? Yes, you've got this. This is why almost everything President Trump is doing is really incorporated into, into executive orders or if he has to get something done, they gotta slide it into a big beautiful bill where the House basically and the Senate got to just got to suck on it to get, you know, to get their tax cuts passed. The reality is Big Pharma, Big Pharma has a grip on this city and they ain't gonna let that grip go. They got every lobbyist, every law firm, every crisis communications person, all the law, you know, everybody. So what's the reality? How do you break that in? Particularly in like, the Republican House of Representatives?

[C]

Sure.

[B]

No, you make a fantastic point. Right. And I'm not being Pollyanna, I'm not saying Any of this is easy. It clearly is not. But to me, that the first step, the lowest hurdle to get over, it's still a hurdle. But the one that we can get over the quickest, I believe, is what you mentioned, which is banning pharmaceutical advertising. We used to in this country for a long time. Most of the world does right now for very valid reasons. And it's not only because we don't want the marketing machine of, of Big Pharma, as well as some of the marketing machines of Big Food, to convince people to live healthy lifestyles and to use products they may not really need. But more than that is their control over the news media in this country. It is pernicious, it's vast, and it's very effective. But we ban that advertising. We take that weapon away. That is the first way that we start to attack the power of Big Pharma. But look, there's a lot of battles ahead. But you know, here's the thing. As you know, things that at one point in time seem insurmountable. With enough selling, with enough persuasion of the public. Right. We can create the kind of populist revolt that resulted in Trump winning back in 2016, that can result in RFK and Bobby prevailing now in 2025 and beyond. It's tough. We're fighting uphill. Absolutely. And by the way, not just Big Pharma, big food as well. Michael Caputo, who of course has been on your show a lot, he said during my interview with him, he said, you want to see a powerful lobbyist, try the lobbyist for Captain Crunch. Said he makes Big Defense and Big Oil look like nothing. And he's onto something there. So, yes, we're taking on really powerful interests, but we have to do it. We can't accept this kind of slow retreat and slow defeat of becoming a nation that is totally unhappy and unhealthy and slothful. We simply cannot accept it. Not to mention we can't afford it, Steve. We can't afford it.

[A]

No, the future costs are insurmountable with all the redistricting, with the getting rid of the racial gerrymandering. If we put together and hammer a greater alliance and even a more robust alliance between maga, the populist nationalists and maga, the Make America Healthy Again and the Parental rights movement, it's unbeatable and the left knows that. That's why we got to hammer this home every day, Steve. So tonight at 10:00 clock is the RFK documentary on PBS is one of their Frontline documentaries, I think it's the rise of Bobby Kennedy and then. Steve, where did they get your documentary?

[B]

Yeah, please go. It's on my Twitter. But you can also go to Cortez Investigates. Cortez with an S at the end, Cortez investigates.com you can sign up for all my content for free. There's this is a 30 minute documentary. I'm not asking for a big time commitment. I think you will learn a lot. I think you'll be inspired. It's really important for our country. Share it, send it to friends, especially if they happen to be in Virginia in front of this vote. We're going to make America healthy again.

[A]

Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. Great, great piece of work. Everybody should see it. 30 minutes in the Bobby Kennedy's two hours. I think an hour tonight, maybe an hour tomorrow night. But it may be both tonight. But anyway, take a look at his front line. It's always top line. Of course, they always come in with a slight hello bias that only PBS can do. The only PBS can have the. I want to thank Patriot Mobile. This fight down in Texas, as goes Texas, so goes the country. And folks, I think I can say pretty definitively now that the whole difference between the great grassroots movement down there and the MAGA movement down there and the political class is plus new focus not just by Soros, but there's massive amounts of investment going in down there from overseas, particularly I think at the Gulf Emirates with the Muslim community there. Texas is going to be a battleground state and we have to embrace that. Texas is a battleground state. The reality and I realize Trump just won by 14 points, right. And Ted Cruz I think won by 11 or 12. So the effort's been tremendous. But on other policies in the House, I think we've got to get very serious of considering Texas and the efforts got to be put in Texas. Want to thank Patriot Mobile Glenn Story, his team just monumental this afternoon. I think I'm going to have time to show, you know, we were down for Lee Wambsgans and had a rally for her which was incredible. Want to thank her. Raycon from Saturday. But also I had on the show for a couple days. We had Texans down there on the show. The opponent that's really just money. You know, it's coming from Macau. His money's coming from Macau. And Macau, you have to understand, is not just one of the money laundering capitals of the world, but it's one of the sex trafficking capitals of the world because of the 450 million abortions that have been done to the Chinese forced abortions on the Chinese people on Lao Beijing by the Chinese Communist Party. 80% of those I think are for little girls. They have a huge mismatch for the first time in history in a major population. And the sex trafficking is huge. That the guy taking that money, basically $9 million is the one attacking her viciously for being a wait for it Christian. We'll get into more on that this afternoon. Patriot Mobile 972 Patriot. You will talk today to a US citizen in the state of Texas about shifting to the services. They're incredible. Best mobile company out there and one that supports your values. Stop giving money to people that hate you. Start getting services from people that support you. 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Their flock, the lived Christianity of your, of your flock is going to have to live that Christianity back in their home country, just full stop. You can't make exceptions for this. And you get everybody coming at the present now to make an exception for farmers for this, for that, for that. No, you do one, you're going to have a million of them. Just let's be very simple about this. This country is for American citizens. Enough Hispanic citizens, African Americans that have been abused by Wall street and corporate America because of this, of letting in these illegal aliens. It's got to stop or you're not going to have a country just like in the middle class with these STEM workers with these H1B scams. It's got to stop. And guess What? All the H1B people that have visas have to go home and those jobs have to be opened up to American citizens because they've never shown one billet of the millions are here. One billet that an American either didn't have the education or the job experience because it's a scam to cut costs, to basically pay indentured servants one third of what they have to pay American citizens. Also the 350,000 Chinese, I understand President Trump's trying to juggle so much and trying to balance so much and working with them on the rare earths, but if we're going to start decoupling, let's just send them home and let those billets at those universities, particularly in these technical areas, go to wait for it. American citizens. And they're plenty smart. I don't buy the argument whatsoever. You see all the. You talk to people really in the industry, all the coding errors and problems and issues, and Amazon just announced. I'll get to that this afternoon. Was it 600,000? They're not going to hire. This is an internal report that the New York Times got. They're not going to hire 600,000 human beings because they're going to do it with robots and artificial intelligence. So that apocalypse is coming. This is why we have to protect American citizens from unfair competition throughout the world. This is their country. The generations that have been here, fought for this country, been Burke's little platoons, have built this country, have coached Little League and built the churches and go to the Kiwanis Club and do all those social events that bind a community together to provide the infrastructure of the community to build the society of that we're more than an economy and we're particularly more than a corporatist economy. Some more on this tonight at 5:00'. Clock. Trevor Comstock, now more than ever, you're like my Maha guy. Make America healthy again. You're doing it by establishing a company that is second to none. What do you got for us today?

[D]

Yeah, great to see you, Steve. So our new tallow moisturizer has been extremely popular amongst the war room posse, but we still get a large amount of emails of people just asking about it, you know, general questions around it, as well as how it compares to other moisturizers on the market. So I just want to quickly touch on it again. It's made with the 100% American grass fed and finished beef tallow. And then we pair it with the raw manufacturer, honey from New Zealand. So with that we don't include any fillers, fragrances, alcohols or anything synthetic. And you know, tallow is really remarkable just because it's loaded with vitamins like vitamin A, D, E as well as K, which your skin needs to stay healthy and radiant. And those are, those are natural nutrients as opposed to a lot of synthetic nutrients included within your common moisturizer. So that in itself is pretty amazing. And then like I mentioned, we pair it with the raw Manuka honey, which is a naturally occurring antibacterial, anti inflammatory and healing remedy. So it does things like heal irritated skin. If you have redness, it works great in that scenario as well. Also, eczema helps bring it down quite a bit. So very powerful, very potent. And again, if you want to compare it to your average moisturizer on the market, those can be effective. But they more times than not contain a ton of artificial ingredients, ingredients, fragrances, even food dyes, if you can believe that. So again, we just stray away from everything synthetic. We give you the raw natural ingredients that are very powerful, very nutritious for your skin. And again, you know, it's intended for both men and women and you can use it anywhere on your body. That's one of the questions we get asked a lot is where can you apply it? But you can put on your face, which is why I typically do put on your neck, your hands, your feet, anywhere you really need it. So people have been loving it. You can check out some of our reviews online and if you have any questions, just let us know.

[A]

I want people to go to the website because I want to look at all the product offerings and I want them to get this audience is best when you overwhelm them with information and reviews and things like that. So where do they go?

[D]

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[A]

Thank you, brother. Appreciate you.

[D]

Thank you.

[A]

The Charlie Kirk show is next as has been every workday for the last what, four years. Jack Posobic will follow that. Steve Gruber, then Eric Bollinger. Hopefully today we can do a hard changeover. Then the worm from five to seven. Joe Allen has been out throughout the country for the last couple of months as we have. Also, we're now back in the war room and Joe will join us today at the six o' clock hour. I will go through with him a number of developments in transhumanism and artificial intelligence and other things related to that. You do not want to miss that. We're working on a bunch of big stories, news and analysis at the 5:00 clock hour and we will get to all of them. Want to thank Birchgold, our sponsor, now more than ever you have to understand what's going on in the world economy. Birchgold.com promo code worm the end of the dollar empire right there in blazing headlines. We told you this was going to happen. The nations of Europe are going to stand, steal the assets, $350 billion from the Russian people and what are they going to do with it? They're going to give it to Zelensky to buy offensive weapons.

[B]

No.

[A]

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