Episode 4869: The Battle For New Jersey And Pennsylvania

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room – Episode 4869

The Battle For New Jersey And Pennsylvania

Date: October 22, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Main Guests: Cliff Maloney, Michael Pack, Mo Bannon, Dr. Thayer

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Overview of the Episode

This high-intensity episode of Bannon’s War Room dives into the political battlegrounds of New Jersey and Pennsylvania as the 2025 election season heats up. The episode weaves through the ongoing government shutdown under President Trump, election strategy, ground game mobilization in pivotal states, threats to free speech, and foreign policy. The show also features a tribute to U.S. Marines through an upcoming documentary premiere, and culminates in a stark warning about U.S.-China tensions in artificial intelligence.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Government Shutdown and Trump Presidency (00:00–06:32)

• Impacts and Perceptions:

  • President Trump is leveraging the shutdown and OMB project cuts as political warfare, especially targeting blue states.
  • The hosts compare the current political drama to past presidencies, noting daily "historical" upheavals.
  • Vigorous criticism of Democratic responses—calls for unity and legal resistance among blue states.

• Notable Quotes:

  • A (Host, 00:54): “This moment of maximum abuse of power demands 100% of the time, in 100% of the instances, the maximum use of your legal power. [...] This is a moment of deep, deep, deep danger for the American republic.”
  • B (Co-host, 01:33): (On Democratic unity): “But let's be honest, this is a general strike, and it's a general strike among Democrats against Donald Trump's abuse of power.”

2. Foreign Policy: Russia & Ukraine (04:00–06:32)

• Discussion about Trump’s negotiation tactics (or lack thereof) with Putin, and the leverage the U.S. has given Russia’s economic and military vulnerabilities.

• Ukrainian advances with drone and artillery technology threaten Russian oil infrastructure.

• The hosts argue Trump is failing to use substantial U.S. leverage to contain Putin.

• Notable Quote:

  • A (05:47): “So a perfect time for the President of the United States to use real leverage on Putin to get him to the negotiating table. But it’s leverage that Trump has... not been prepared to use.”

3. Antifascist Movement, Threats, and Academic Freedom (06:32–08:01)

• Mark Bray and discussion of anti-fascism: Emphasis on unity across various leftist and Black liberation traditions in opposition to what they label as a "fascist MAGA movement."

• Discussion of attacks on free speech and academic freedom by both sides.

• Notable Quote:

  • B (07:13): “This impulse towards unity and putting aside the differences that often divide the left in the interest of promoting the common struggle against fascism, against white supremacy.”

4. Redistricting and Power Politics in North Carolina (16:43–18:18)

• Analysis of the GOP’s efforts to redraw congressional maps in North Carolina, making it harder for Democrats to win.

• Reference to the 2013 Supreme Court gutting of the Voting Rights Act as the catalyst.

• Notable Quote:

  • B (18:18): “In other words, this is power politics. This is smash mouth maximalists seize the institution sense of urgency.”

5. Ground Game & NJ/PA Election Strategies (19:39–27:26)

• Cliff Maloney’s Field Report:

  • The "NJ Chase" program boasts 5.5% better GOP turnout than in 2024, potentially putting New Jersey in play.
  • 118 full-time staffers mobilized in PA; 105 in NJ.
  • Focused efforts on low-propensity Republican voters—borrowing and expanding upon Biden’s 2020 “reminder campaign” to boost mail-in ballot returns.
  • Acknowledgment of the necessity for Republicans to improve at turning out "lower information" voters even without Trump directly on the ballot.

• Notable Quotes:

  • A, Cliff Maloney (19:39): “When these people come after you, there is only one response. Any member of the political establishment ... when they try to attack you, you can only respond by doubling down.”
  • A, Cliff Maloney (22:09): “If Pennsylvania becomes the next Ohio, we’ve got a red wall that makes it impossible for Democrats to win a national election.”
  • A, Cliff Maloney (26:39): “If the rules remain as they do, we have two options. We can sit out and we can lose or we can fight fire with fire.”

• Action Links:

  • Participation Info: “njchase.com” and Maloney’s “@Maloney” on X.

6. The Marines and the Battle of Fallujah Documentary (29:08–41:49)

• Promo for "The Last 600 Meters," a documentary on the Marines’ experiences in Iraq (Fallujah/Najaf) to be screened at the Navy Memorial and on PBS for Veterans Day.

• Emphasis on the honor, sacrifice, and the uniqueness of the documentary—featuring only volunteers, not draftees.

• Details on how War Room listeners can attend the premiere.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Bannon (32:20): “You come away just awestruck by the courage and compassion of the Marines, unlike any film I think I've ever seen. It’s just... stunning, the valor.”
  • Michael Pack (33:22): “Whatever you think of the Iraq war, we need to celebrate the young men and women that we asked to be on the front lines for us and risk their lives.”
  • Mo (39:15): “It was a very transformative movie to me. ... It truly honors those men that fought back in Iraq with the United States Marine Corps.”

• Tickets: via Eventbrite, search “Last 600 Meters Premier War Room Tickets.”

7. Artificial Intelligence Threats: US vs China (48:38–51:09)

• Dr. Thayer and Stephen Bannon discuss the strategic threat posed by China’s drive for artificial general intelligence.

• Call for hard decoupling: no tech transfers, investment, or academic exchange with China.

• Advocacy for a U.S.-centered AI strategy focused on national independence and security.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Dr. Thayer (48:38): “We need to cut them off from our brains, cut them off from our money, cut them off from our technology and any type of exchanges.”
  • Bannon (51:09): “We are about ... hard decouple from these criminals, not make money with them, not make money in partnership with them.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• “This is a moment of deep, deep, deep danger for the American republic.”
  —A (00:54)
• “Health care is good politics ... but let's be honest, this is a general strike among Democrats against Donald Trump's abuse of power.”
  —B (01:33)
• “This impulse towards unity ... in promoting the common struggle against fascism, against white supremacy.”
  —B (07:13)
• “You come away just awestruck by the courage and compassion of the Marines, unlike any film I think I've ever seen.”
  —Bannon (32:20)
• “We need to cut them off from our brains, cut them off from our money, cut them off from our technology and any type of exchanges.”
  —Dr. Thayer (48:38)
• “If Pennsylvania becomes the next Ohio, we've got a red wall that makes it impossible for Democrats to win a national election.”
  —Cliff Maloney (22:09)
• “If the rules remain as they do ... we have two options. We can sit out and lose, or we can fight fire with fire.”
  —Cliff Maloney (26:39)
• “We are about ... hard decouple from these criminals, not make money with them, not make money in partnership with them.”
  —Bannon (51:09)

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Timestamps of Major Segments

• [00:00–06:32] – Shutdown politics, historical context, foreign policy posture
• [06:32–08:01] – Discussion of antifascist tactics, dangers to free speech
• [16:43–18:18] – North Carolina redistricting and Voting Rights Act
• [19:39–27:26] – New Jersey and Pennsylvania grassroots strategies (Maloney interview)
• [29:08–41:49] – "Last 600 Meters" documentary discussion, honoring Marines, event logistics (Pack & Mo Bannon)
• [48:38–51:09] – US-China AI competition and call for decoupling (Dr. Thayer)

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Conclusion

This episode is a call to action for grassroots mobilization in critical swing states, an exposé on the “smash mouth” tactics in contemporary American politics, and a tribute to the courage and sacrifice of U.S. servicemembers. It concludes with a strong warning about the urgency of decoupling from China in the race for artificial intelligence dominance — a theme that ties political power, economic security, and national defense into a single narrative.

For event information:

• NJ Chase project: njchase.com
• Documentary tickets: Search “Last 600 Meters Premier War Room Tickets” on Eventbrite

War Room Posse takeaway:
Mobilize, double down against threats, and honor military service while maintaining vigilance on national security challenges posed by China.

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Transcript

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Three weeks now of the government shutdown having real impacts on people's lives, not getting paychecks. But you had the president yesterday now kind of gleefully talking about Russ Vogt, the OMB director. While this is going on, I'm having him cut projects to blue states, calling him Darth Vader, saying, this is. This is fun for us. We get to take things away from states that didn't vote for me. You know, the amazing thing about this is we are just nine months into the Trump presidency, and the level of exhaustion that he has provided each and every day is. Is just beyond belief. It's historical. You just can't imagine it. I mean, on this day in 1962, John F. Kennedy addressed the nation in.

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The Cuban Missile crisis.

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That was the highlight of his first.

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Year in the presidency, maybe the highlight of his first couple of years in the presidency.

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Now it's every day, multiple times a.

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Day, that we have to focus on.

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Something that happened, whether he's destroying the East Wing in the White House, whether.

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He'S on again, off again with Vladimir Putin.

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The blue states can form legal, interstate compacts, and they should come to a position, if you're a Democratic governor, that this moment of maximum abuse of power demands 100% of the time, in 100% of the instances, the maximum use of your legal power. If you hear, and there are way too many Democratic leaders in Washington who say this will all just go back to normal when Trump is gone, that person is a fool and deluded, and that person absolutely should not be in a position of responsibility in the opposition party. This is a moment of deep, deep, deep danger for the American republic. The amount of armaments being bought by ice. What Trump is declaring is, I'm king, I'm law. Why not 500 million? As he demolishes the White House in an act of corruption paid for by billionaire oligarchs and companies. Facebook demolished the White House. Google demolished the White House. Sam Altman demolished the White House. And the politics of this moment, as the American people face economic misery ahead, will demand not going back to something that's gone, but imagining something that's new, that prevents any of this from ever happening again in the United States of America. We owe that to our children, to heal our sick society from the sick and twisted presidency of the fascist Donald Trump. I think John Thune was hoping Democrats would fold in the first week or 10 days, but I think it was perhaps a conventional thought in Washington and hope that they could peel off six, seven more Democrats beyond the three That I think first. First voted to keep the government open, and it just hasn't happened. And so I think Thune is now basically wedded to the Trump Johnson theory of just trying to hold out, hold out. He has offered an olive branch, promising Democrats that will be almost simultaneous votes to reopen the government and then address the health care issue. But I think Thune is running up against something which is words we don't typically say, Democratic unity. And by the way, I think health care is the vehicle. But let's be honest, this is a general strike, and it's a general strike among Democrats against Donald Trump's abuse of power. It's the only leverage they have. Yeah, they don't control the House, Senator, White House. The one weapon they have in their arsenal politically is we can shut down the government because it takes 60 votes in the Senate to keep the government open. That's all they got. This is their way of registering their opposition to Donald Trump's conduct. What you're talking about day in, day out, health care is good politics at Poleswell. I understand that this is more a general. Half the country is up in arms about how this man is running America. And this is what we're going to do to say, you know what, half of America, we get it. We hear you, we're with you. We're pissed, too. Ed, what do you make of the calling off of the proposed meeting in Hungary? I just. If you look at the state that Russia is in right now, you would think that Trump has a pretty good, strong upper hand to push Putin into a corner, much like he did in the Middle east, where he was able to really pull things together and get a deal on the table. Why is it so hard for him with Vladimir Putin? Oh, you're right, Mika. I mean, Russia. The Economist did a sort of meta estimate of Russia's death toll this year. 100,000 Russians have died this, give or take, several hundred thousand since 2022. You know, that's almost as much as America lost in Korea and Vietnam combined over many, many, many years. This is in one year. So there is acute manpower pressure in Russia. There is also acute pressure on paying recruitment bonuses to get new soldiers, because Ukrainians are getting the ability with drones and with artillery and with their guided miss strike hundreds of miles deep inside Russia to strike Russia's oil refineries. And they could soon extend that to their pipelines, too. So the sort of spigot that is funding the ability to recruit Russian soldiers into this army with amazingly high casualties, that's being threatened, too. So a perfect time for the President of the United States to use real leverage on Putin to get him to the negotiating table. But it's leverage for one reason or another, and we can speculate probably fruitlessly about what that reason is. But it's leverage that Trump has still nine, 10 months into his administration not been prepared to use and shows no signs of being prepared to use it.

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He had you on last in 2017 to discuss your book, the Antifascist Handbook, when it first came out.

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In the introduction, you wrote you hoped.

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Your work would promote organizing against fascism and white supremacy.

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Can you elaborate? Right.

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So anti fascism has a broad history in the U.S. certainly there's the European inspired antifa tradition.

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There's also a really good book called.

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The Black Antifascist Tradition that talks about the role of anti fascism in black liberation struggles, Black Panthers and so forth.

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Which I suggest people check out. So it takes many different forms.

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What it has in common is actually.

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This impulse towards unity and putting aside the differences that often divide the left in the interest of promoting the common struggle against fascism, against white supremacy. And what we're seeing today in the.

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US Is increasingly fascist maga, I believe, and I study fascism.

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I don't say this likely is a fascist movement.

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And if we don't organize, if we don't take action in the streets, we're going to end up somewhere really bad. And for me personally, I felt like my situation was such that I had.

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To get my family out of harm's way. But this story about me is about me, but it's not really about me.

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It's about attacks on academic freedom, free speech, the right to protest.

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We're in a really dangerous situation.

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And so everyone in their own way needs to take action to try and organize against this. So we did the Presidential Walk of.

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Fame from the great George Washington all the way to. Well, I think we have to rate him above me.

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So less than great, less than George.

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Somebody went up there. They say you're the third best president in the United. This was on television. Third best. And they said, who are the first two?

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George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. And I got extremely angry at this man. You know, you can't.

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It's going to be. It's going to be tough to beat Mr. Senator.

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It's going to be John.

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It's going to be very tough to.

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Beat Washington and Lincoln.

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But we're going to give it a try, right? Hey, they didn't put out eight wars. Nine coming. All right, we put out eight wars.

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And the ninth is coming. Believe it or not, this is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians, I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.

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I know you try to do everything.

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In the world to stop that, but.

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You'Re not going to stop it.

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It's going to happen.

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And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. Say War Room.

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Here's your host, Stephen k. Ban. Wednesday the 22nd of October. Year of our Lord 2025. Welcome to the War Room. A day of intensity. Government shutdown. President Trump's negotiating with the Chinese Communist Party. We have a huge guest coming on at 11 o'. Clock. Major announcement about artificial intelligence. Our one and only Joe Allen will join us. If you did not see last night's 6 o' clock show, get it and watch it or we'll put it back up again later in the week. Absolutely. Drew Allen coming back from his hundred day journey through America and quite shocking some of the data that he has about artificial intelligence and about transhumanism and about the singularity. So the specter over all of us is this drive by these oligarchs and the Chinese Communist Party and others to drive towards the point of the singularity of from that point there is no return. Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States and everything he's doing and balancing one is this, is this war against the radical element because remember, the Democrats cannot win anymore at the ballot box. The structural changes in the country's demographics and geographics make it so that this big surge to the south and to the southwest and to the intermountain west makes it that they're going to be very difficult for them to win the House of Representatives again to take back the Senate. And with a real census that we need to do mid decade, no longer will the Electoral College be within grasp. And as they get more and more radical, this no Kings thing is obviously a flop, but they're going to, they're going to spiral into more and more violence. Talk about structural North Carolina. Last night the Senate voted for the new map. So we're too jammed this morning to get Degrasse, but we got De Grasse on deck either for this afternoon or tomorrow to talk to you about the structural changes that are happening that make the Democrats less and less likely. If we do our job, we have to do our job. You have to get the grassroots out. You have to get the MAGA vote out, obviously. But if we do our job and you can see what the job is to do so you can see where the victory. Where victory is, then it's just execution. You don't have to be. You don't have to talk about strategy anymore or worry about that. They're getting more and more radical. They're getting more and more violent. They're talking about violence nonstop. Now. They got the happy talk. And the reason they don't talk about it at no Kings, because a bunch of hapless old people with their walkers, all these liberals, progressives, that have a frictionless life as it is, and all they do is bitch and moan about everything, right? And you see this Rachel Matta, they had this disastrous, you know, open cattle call the other night in New York with the MSNBC crowd. It was quite humiliating. The audience, the crowd, the way they comported themselves. I want to bring in Cliff Maloney. So, Cliff, I've got you here from New Jersey. Also talk about some redistricting. And you're our ground game guy, one of the leaders of the ground game movement. But I gotta ask you, that antifa interview was just yesterday. Talk to me about that guy. Because you and our own beloved Jack Posobec are on his target list, are you not?

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Yeah. You know, it's fascinating to me. I wonder why I kept getting some random death threats back when this book came out. But Mark Bray names me Steve. Here's the best part. I wrote an op ed in Time magazine. Can you believe it or not? Time magazine actually published an op ed that I wrote about campus free speech. And the antifa handbook names me and says, you know, this is horrific because Cliff Maloney stands for free speech on campus, which means he must support homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic language. Which now, you know, thinking back to, obviously, what happened to Charlie. I wrote the op ed talking about campus free speech. And because of that, they put me in the antifa handbook. They're just wild people, you know, These are not serious people. And for them to do things like that, it just. It just puts a target on a lot of our backs for just speaking for what I would call basic American freedoms.

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That's where they do it. Okay, Cliff, hang on. We got a lot to talk about, including this Dr. Thayer is going to join us. We're going to talk a little bit about the Chinese Communist Party, President Trump in this negotiation, but cultural nationalism, which is a good thing in Great Britain and Ireland, they've made it a bad thing and Ireland is on fire now. We're going to break that down. So much going on this morning. We're packed wall to wall. Cliff Maloney is in our Palm Beach, West Palm beach studio. We're going to talk a little New Jersey in this race and much pretty, particularly the ground game. What do you need to do to get out the vote to have a victory like in 2024? Short commercial break we're back in the Worm in just a moment. Want to tell you about a new offer from our sponsor, Birch Gold Veterans Day Free Silver. Buy Gold and get Free Silver. That's right. For every $5,000 purchased from Birch Gold Group this month in advance of Veterans Day, they will send you a free patriotic silver round that commemorates the Gadsden and American flags. Look, Gold is up over 40% since the beginning of this year and Birch Gold can help you own it by converting an existing IRA or 401 into a tax sheltered IRA in physical gold. Plus, they'll send you free Silver honoring our veterans on qualifying purchases. If you're current or former military, Birchgold has a special offer just for you, waiving custodial fees for the first year on investments of any amount with an A rating. With the Better Business Bureau and tens of thousands of happy customers, many of which are my listeners, I encourage you to diversify your savings into gold. Text my name Bannon B A N N Owen to number 989-898 for a free info kit and to claim your eligibility for Free Silver with qualifying purchase before the end of the month. Again, text my name, Bannon to 989-898. You will get the ultimate guide which is free for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump.

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In other words this is power politics. This is smash mouth maximalists seize the institution sense of urgency. I don't want to hear their whining. They've gun decked this thing forever. They've flooded the country with illegal alien invaders. I have no mercy on these guys. No pity. And we need more. We need what? Kentucky and Missouri and Indiana. Indiana. We need nine zero. No happy talk. No oh well, we might upset the New York Times. We don't care. Cliff Maloney and the reason you're targeted and Posobic are targeted, you guys are in the field. You're like you were a field commander, one of the field commanders in Pennsylvania in the historic 2024. And he came on the show months before and said hey if we can execute our plan, we will win. So it's no more strategies if we can execute the plan. The reason you're targeted by antifa is not simply the fact you've been writing op eds etc. They understand you and Pasopic and others are kind of some of the stalwarts of this movement. And just like they assassinated Charlie Kirk, they're looking to target and put fear into, into other leaders of this movement. Are you going to back down at all, Cliff, or have they gotten to you yet? Or they have they rattled Cliff Maloney?

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Steve, my response to them is simple. Double down right. Part of this America first movement. And so many patriots that watch this show, the whole war room posse, get this. When these people come after you, there is only one response. Any member of the political establishment, whether it's right or left, when they try to attack you, you can only respond by doubling down. And Steve, let me announce this here to the War Room posse because I'm looking at the data. I want to report some numbers to you guys from New Jersey. We've got this New Jersey Chase program. And by the way, anybody who wants to help us out, njchase.com, njchase, here's the result and here's the big update I want to give to the entire War room as of this day. If you look just last year in the 2024 election, if you look this far out from the election in 2024 in New Jersey, we are performing at 5.5% better than we were one year ago. And what do I mean by that? I mean, when you look at the returns of Republicans versus Democrats, we are 5.5% better than we were one year ago. And remember, Trump only lost Jersey by about 5.9%. Jack Cittarelli, the governor candidate four years ago, lost by just 3%. So the program is working. The NJ Chase effort is having an impact. I'm not here today to tell you that Jack's going to win. I'm here to tell you that New Jersey is in play and we're going to do everything we can to try to bring him over the finish line. If you would ask me six months ago, I would have said there's no chance to win New Jersey. That has changed. That is different. And I think we've got a shot here. And I'm asking everybody in the War Room posse to focus on New Jersey. We've got a chance to flip a completely blue state for the America first movement.

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The polling's around 3 to 5% though, right? The polling says right now, I think, I think it's 3 to 5% and the Democrats have a natural advantage. What then do we need to do as far as turnout? This is going to be a turnout election. What do you need to do in the Chase program and the other the Scott pressers of the world, all these people up in New Jersey because press list Says it, and I think you've also said it. Pennsylvania could be the new Ohio and New Jersey could be the new Pennsylvania. What do we have to do in the next couple weeks to make sure that we can, that we can push the Republican candidate over the top?

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Yeah, you said exactly. It's a turnout election. Right. We've got 118 full time staffers in Pennsylvania right now. I've got 105 full time staffers in New Jersey. These are the two states that I'm spending all of my time in. Because as you just said, Steve, if Pennsylvania becomes the next Ohio, we've got a red wall that makes it impossible for Democrats to win a national election. Again. If we flip New Jersey, we're talking about Democrats not being a party that can compete, I mean, in any way on the national stage. Right. That's why Scott Pressler is going all in. That's why I'm all in. Steve, let me read you a couple points here that I think data that really kind of speaks to where we are in this election. And for those out there, I don't know how familiar people are with New Jersey, but I want to just share these points. Hudson County, Passaic County, Union county and Essex county, these are all counties that Harris won by 20 plus points. And one of the problems the Democrats have right now is their turnout. Right. This is a turnout election, Steve. As you said, in these counties, they're between 3 to 6% turnout. They're banking, banking on these counties being kind of what drives the win for this Democrat, Mikey Sherrill. And they're just not turning out at the moment. So I compare her. I call her Mikey Sherrill, the Kamala Harris of New Jersey. And why do I do that? I'm not just being funny, Steve. The more voters that interact with her, the more people that see her, that hear her message, the more she's losing votes. And it's proving in the data here that the enthusiasm gap for Jack Cittarelli versus her people are moving towards Jack. And so when you ask me, how do we win this election, it's very simple. If Republicans sit on the sidelines, we lose. If Republicans show up, turn out, either vote by mail, vote early in person, or show up on election day, we're going to flip New Jersey. Jack Cittarelli will be the next governor of New Jersey. If every member of the war room posse reaches out to anyone who lives in New Jersey and tells them, hey, you have to go vote, you have to show up for this. This is about A referendum not just on Donald Trump, but is the America first movement going to continue as a stronghold in the political arena? This election will determine that.

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This also solves. We have to talk about the elephant in the room. The elephant in the room. We have not shown yet either the Republican Party or ourselves as a movement that we can consistently turn out lower propensity, low propensity and lower information voters. And what I mean by that is not intelligence. They're just not that engaged in politics without Trump actually on the ballot. This is another, this is another test case of this where we have to show that we can do that. Correct?

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No, 100%. And listen, it's an interesting conversation at the door. Let me, let me tell you what the experience is like when we go door to door, our whole universe. Steve, once again, we have two phases in the New Jersey Chase program, just like we did in Pennsylvania. The first phase, which is now over, is going to low propensity voters. These are folks that have voted in zero, one or two of the last four general elections. And we say, hey, Bob, I know you don't vote that consistently, but we love to get you a request form to fill out so that you can get a mail in ballot. And Bob always says what you just said, Steve. Oh, I vote every election. Well, Bob, we've got the records here. You voted in one of the last four general elections. And I'm not trying to shame the voter. I'm not, I'm not trying to insult the voter, but I'm trying to have an honest conversation. And we get them a request form and then they fill it out and we get a ballot sent to them. Now what happens once a ballot is sent to them? 7 out of 10 of these low propensity Republicans, once they get a ballot sent to them, will now vote. They become likely to vote. They become a high propensity voter. That's phase one. Phase two in this program is we go to every single door of a Republican who has a mail in ballot and we say to them, hey, you've got a ballot sitting there. Can we, can we just confirm that you're gonna send that back today? And Steve, here's the best part of the program. We took this from Biden's 2020 playbook. We go back with the same door knocker to the same door every seven days. And we continuously, we call it a reminder campaign. Biden called it annoying the voter.

[B]

Right?

[A]

I don't call it that, but that's what Biden's people called it in 2020 we call it a reminder campaign. So we're going to these low propensity voters and we're just saying, hey, send that ballot back. And that's what this is. It is a turnout game. We don't have election day, we don't have election weekend, we don't have election week, we don't have election month. We have election season in America. I'm not here to endorse it, Steve, but I'm here to tell the war room posse one thing. If the rules remain as they do, we have two options. We can sit out and we can lose or we can fight fire with fire. That's what we do at Citizens Alliance. We're going to beat the Democrats at their own game. And if we're successful in New Jersey, we will have flipped one of the bluest states and it will be a total, total hide on the barn.

[B]

The greatest tee up for the midterms can be this New Jersey situation. Plus it forces them to put tons of resources that they never thought they're gonna have to put. Cliff. Where do people go to get to New Jersey? Chase, to the alliance and to you, your social media, where they go on.

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X at Maloney, M A L O N E y and then njchase.com that's njchase.com what if he had the brightest.

[B]

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[A]

We were facing a lot more enemy.

[B]

Than we had the capability to deal with. They dug Trenches, they fortified houses. They were ready.

[A]

We wanted to go. We were just waiting on the edge of a knife. When are we going to get to go? The orc.

[B]

The order is seize the city.

[A]

RPGs, small arms fire from everywhere.

[B]

I told him that I wanted to go and he looked at me and said, sergeant, you're gonna die. The destruction is just horrible.

[A]

The hardest thing about fighting this enemy is they're not afraid to die. If they're not afraid to die, then how do you fight them? Ramps going down. Be prepared to start at one end of the city and fight your way.

[B]

Through to the other end. There's firing going on, there are grenades.

[A]

Being thrown in the house.

[B]

He came hand to hand, fight.

[A]

And it was so close. Two selfless Marines run across this kill.

[B]

Zone four times to pull Marines out of there.

[A]

I wasn't worried about, you know, getting shot or getting wounded. I was worried about the guys to my left and right.

[B]

You always want to reassure these men that they've done their duty because that memory is seared into their soul.

[A]

They, they never forget it.

[B]

None of us do. Foreign policy, I don't make it. I just deliver the last 600 meters of it. The foreign policy I don't make, I just delivered the last 600 meters. This film was, I guess it's 17 years ago, was honored with Mike Pack, Michael Pack's wife, to be the executive producer. And Pack made a, made a classic. The Marines say, many of the Marines say it's the best film ever made about Marine rifle squads. Because if you see Hollywood movies, they got all kind of, you know, plot devices they have to use to try to draw a broader audience. This is just the thing itself. You see it for the entire time. Pac was going to make a move. Michael Pack joins us. We got a special announcer, got Pack here, maybe I hopefully got Mo Pack. When you, when you left PBS the first time under Bush's, under President Bush's presidency, they basically said, we'll finance a film you want to do. And you were going to do a high tech, you were going to talk about the Iraq war. Modern warfare kind of extrapolated from what had happened in the Gulf War as a super high tech war. And after doing your research, you came back and said, hey, this is really going to be a war about 18, 17 and 18 year old privates, non commissioned officers, they're in their early 20s and second lieutenants and first lieutenants going door to door in some of the most brutal fighting in the history of the United States Marine corps in over 250 years, folks. That's saying something. And this film is just brutal in its reality. And you come away just awestruck by the courage and compassion of the Marines, unlike any film I think I've ever seen. It's just, you're just sitting there. It's just absolutely stunning, the valor, particularly when you think about the confusion about what the cause was and what the purpose. In World War II, there was no confusion at all about what the purpose was, what the task and the purpose here. Obviously it was very contentious. It gets more contentious over time. But for the actual moment itself, First Battle of Fallujah, the Battle of Najaf, and the Second Battle of Fallujah, the Mack Daddy, it just, it's stunning. Tell me about it.

[A]

Indeed. I moved even to see the trailer. I mean, whatever you think of the Iraq war, we need to celebrate the young men and women that we asked to be on the front lines for us and risk their lives. I think their honor has been clouded by mixed feelings about the war. But now, as you know, we finished this film 17 years ago, but now maybe it's its right time. I think people can look back and not be clouded by ideology. And at the same time, we see that our allies and we ourselves likely will be enmeshed in the same kind of warfare in Gaza, in Ukraine, wherever. I mean, not all war is like World War I and World War II. It's most common warfare is this kind of counterinsurgency. And as you say, Fallujah and Najaf are the biggest battles America has fought since Vietnam. We owe it to the people who fought there to understand what happened and to tell their story. And I'm really happy that it's going to be airing Veterans Day Eve on PBS at 10pm 10pm November 10th. And the Marine Corps birthday.

[B]

Well, the 250, I think. What's the 250th birthday, the official birthday of the United States Marine Corps. We're going to be doing stuff all day in that weekend to tee up for it, but PBS has finally cried uncle and said they will give its first national airing at the 10pm slot, which last night we told you about Bobby Kennedy's. I think we're going to try to have the filmmaker from Bobby Kennedy's film from PBS Hicks on tonight to discuss that 10pm is kind of their primetime slot. So they've given you quite a compliment. They've given you the prime time slot on PBS for the 250th commemoration of the birthday of the United States Marine Corps. We've actually, you're doing something else that we're. The War Room is one of the parties to this. I got Mo on, and I want to make sure the people in the War Room Posse know this and know where they can go and so Mo can work with you. On the 30th, we're actually going to do a public screening. And folks, if you have the opportunity to see this on a big screen, because it's a totally different experience than watching it on your device or watching on your tv, it's over, almost overwhelming, which is the point of the film, of what these men went through. Talk to me about what's going to happen on the 30th.

[A]

Well, it'll be the premiere screening. It'll be at the. The Navy memorial in downtown D.C. a great setting for it because, as you know, the Marines are part of the Navy and we'll have lots of people there, a lot of veterans. A lot of the people that are in the film really want to come. You know, they. You and I promised them it would be broadcast nationally. And now finally, it is. Your viewers and listeners can go to this eventbrite link, which is special for the War Room. And the first hundred War Room people will get a free ticket. It's a screening, and we'll have light refreshments, we'll have some speakers. You know, you and I will speak, Steve, and maybe we'll get some of these veterans and maybe a Trump veteran to speak. And I think it's really, you know, as we get closer to Veterans Day, a really perfect way to honor people. And I think it'll be a great event. You know, there are. Oh will be, you know, there'll be a very mixed group of people there, not just War Room types, but lots of different kinds of people. People from PBS will be there. So it'll be a really interesting event in itself. And you're right. I always wanted people to see it on the big screen. You can even see from the trailer that a lot of this footage really needs to be seen in its fullness. I mean, a lot of it is just complex footage with a lot going on in it. And you can actually see the characters in the footage, but if only blown up big, can you kind of see what they're doing. So it's very important to see it on the screen. I think it'll be a great event in and of itself. We are happy to offer this special deal to War Room fans, the War Room Posse.

[B]

Yeah. So, Mo, we've got basically 100 tickets allocated. Mo where do they go? And. And then you'll make personal contact with us because we want to make sure it's a crowd that will appreciate this. Like I said, this is to honor and it's really to honor the spirit of the Marine Corps. And I think the men in this film would say that, that this is not about them. In fact, the power of the film is that kind of unbroken chain of courage and valor and what they hold themselves up to. They realize they're holding themselves up to the finest traditions of the Corps. And you see some of these efforts, they make superhuman efforts from ordinary people. The superhuman efforts are because of their respect and reverence that the United States Marine Corps imbues into the actual devil dogs themselves. And that's the power of the movie. So, Mo, where do we go right now? You're kind of my organizer on this. Yes, we will allow, as I say, I'm a Naval officer, but as people tell me, we're finally doing something about the Men's Department of the Navy, the United States Marine Corps, and we're going to put an army logistics officer in charge. MO where do they go? I mean, you know that it'll be handled correctly if army logistics is in charge of it.

[A]

But you can go to eventbrite.com/e/last 600.

[B]

Meters Premier War Room tickets.

[A]

We will post the link as well so that everyone can find it.

[B]

But like Michael said, no matter how.

[A]

You feel about the Iraq war, we need to honor those that fought in it. And this is a great way to do that. I was able to see the last 600 meters back, actually, before I went to West Point, so while it was still in the process of being made and totally finalized.

[B]

And it was a very transformative movie to me.

[A]

So I highly encourage everyone if you're in the D.C. area to try and get tickets and get to that screening because it is a amazing movie and it truly honors those men that fought.

[B]

Back in Iraq with the United States Marine Corps. And no matter what branch of service.

[A]

You are, the Marines are amazing men. So.

[B]

And women now. Amazing. But the. That you. You mentioned something, I don't want to bury the lead there. Everybody in this film that you will see and this is what inspired Mo and other people. And I was so proud of people like Mo and others that went to these academies during the war. They're all volunteers. There are no draftees here. These men knew what they were getting into and volunteered. That's courage. That is courage. When you Know that this is going to be grimy. And so you got the first battle of Fallujah, the battle of Najaf, the second battle of Fallujah. And when you see these understanding that 99% of the audience will say well hold it, I don't remember these battles. You will see the most intense large scale battles that the Marine Corps really has had since I think Hue City back during the Tet offensive in, in Vietnam. Michael Pack, where do people go to get all your, all your information about everything you're working on?

[A]

Well, I should also say that we prefer to people go to Eventbrite but if they actually can't find it, if they go to infoanifoldproductions.com we'll be able to send them the Eventbrite link. But it's two steps. It's way easier to go to Eventbrite. They want to find out about the rest of Manifold production stuff. They need to films. They need to go to manifoldproductions.com and our more recent films are at palladiumpictures.com My Twitter is MichaelPack but I think there's more information on the website. There's the Palladium website and they can find out about work or even recommend someone to be in our incubator. And I, you know, so I think there's a lot there including another film Steve and I worked on about Admiral Rickover and a bunch of other films too.

[B]

One of my favorites, one of the greatest men of the 20th century and a film with, with, with Tim Blake Nelson. Tim Blake Nelson. Tim Blake Nelson from oh Brother, Where Art Thou? The comedy. He absolutely plays a stunning Hyman Rickover. It's, it's really, it's a magnificent film. Michael, thank you so much brother for joining us. Look forward to seeing in the 30s 30th.

[A]

Absolutely. Thank you, Steve. Thank you. And I look forward to seeing you both on the 30th.

[B]

Captain Bannon, one more time, where do people go to find out about these tickets? And they're free. So where do people go?

[A]

Eventbrite.come/last 600 meters Premier war room tickets. And we will post it so that, so that there's no difficulties.

[B]

Yeah, that's complicated even for me. By the way, Mo, you keep talking smack about the army and your logistics. You know, you might get recalled back to active duty under President Trump and you know, go over to Centcom. Go to Centcom and help because the entire 200 people associated with the United States military and CENTCOM organizing this are all logistics folks right back to your, back to your natural calling, ma'. Am.

[A]

Well, centcom's headquartered very close by, so I'll do it in civilian capacity.

[B]

They don't need to recall me to active duty.

[A]

I'll be a civilian contractor.

[B]

No, no, no, no. You're getting forwarded to Doha, ma'. Am. Thank you so much. Appreciate you. Thank you. Mo Bannon, 30 October let's, let's get as many of you folks there as possible. It's going to be an incredible night. Short commercial break Cultural nationalism next in the War room. If you're a homeowner, you need to listen to this. In today's AI and cyber world, scammers are stealing home titles with more ease than ever and your equity is the target. Here's how it works. Criminals forge your signature on one document, use a fake notary stamp, pay small fee with your county and boom. Your home title has been transferred out of your name. Then they take out loans using your equity or even sell your property. You won't even know it's happened until you get a collection or foreclosure notice. So let me ask you, when was the last time you personally checked your home title? If you're like me, the answer is never. And that's exactly what scammers are counting on. 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We've got a big announcement about artificial intelligence. And artificial general intelligence is coming up at the top of the hour and our own Joe Allen will join us for that. We've also got a very special guest we're very honored to have. But one of the issues clouding the suspector of it is what's thrown in anybody's face. And they say, hey, we need to actually get a process so we know what's going on with artificial intelligence in the rush to get to artificial general intelligence. Because people say, well, we had a Sputnik moment and they're clearly ahead. I think was deep seek and we've got to combat that. And I Say, hang on for a second, this is everyone. We deal with China and the Chinese Communist Party and Wall street and the corporatists and particularly Silicon Valley. Throw that in your face. There's a big caveat. We, we supply the financing, we supply the technology, we supply the training. We have 350,000 kids here every year getting advanced training and everything. We got guys in our national labs. We've had Chinese nationals all over the place and corporations. It is, I'm not saying it's easy, but it's very doable to sit there and go, no, we are not prepared to support you as you race for artificial general intelligence to basically try to control not simply the world, but all mankind. Am I correct in that statement? There are actions we could take today if we had the political will and to force the political will on these out of control corporatists, oligarchs in Silicon Valley and particularly the lords of easy money on Wall Street. Sir.

[A]

Yes, Steve, it's. Thanks for calling attention to this issue. It's so important to do so. Look, first we need to recognize how important artificial intelligence is for Xi Jinping, right? He's looking for artificial intelligence to save him, to save his economy because his economy is in the doldrums, right? He's in recession. So Xi and the party officials often speak of what they call the active deployment of a systemic strategy centered on new quality production forces to reshape the global competitive landscape. What does that mean? That means that he's looking to seize and to dominate in artificial intelligence and some other related technologies to save his economy, to save the party, to save his leadership, and to give him the weapons that he's going to need to defeat the United States. And so we need to recognize what Xi wants from this. And that explains his focus and his intensity that the CCP have on artificial intelligence. Secondly, what do we need to do? Well, what we need to do is to cut them off from our brains, cut them off from our money, cut them off from our technology and any type of exchanges. So no chips, right? No chips from Nvidia or anyone else. No students, as you mentioned, right? That STEM fields are dominated by Chinese students. Chinese students run so many labs in American universities. And that has to be ended. No technology, no investment. Wall street is still funding these guys, right? You still have our money going into military civil fusion, right? Still going into these firms. No exchanges, right. In terms of scientific exchanges in this area at all. So we need to cut them off at the thirdly, more investment, more focus, intensity on Our side, right. In terms of doing what we can to organize our response. I don't think we can leave it to DARPA to handle this. It's bigger.

[B]

Hey, we're sorry.

[A]

Second.

[B]

Hang on a second. It's bigger than darpa and it's bigger than the weapons labs. But I just want to reiterate. No chips, no dollars, no kids, no training over here. No access to our brains, no access to our technology, no access to our country. Don't sit there and throw in our face. Oh, gosh. You're going to kowtow the Chinese Communist Party. We are about in this show and the leader of the movement to hard decouple from these criminals, not make money with them, not make money in partnership with them. If you want to stop artificial general intelligence and make sure we can have a rational human conversation about it, you have to take the dictatorship that is the cruelest, most barbaric in the history of this planet. And that's saying something. When you go rack up up some of the dictatorships you've had in no Kings crowd. Look at the Chinese Communist Party. The people that back so much of what you're doing. You don't want artificial general intelligence. Shut it down. It can be shut down easily. By shutting down any access of the communists to our technology and money. Short break. Okay, let's be honest. You never thought it would get this far. Maybe you missed the last IRS deadline or you haven't filed taxes in a while. Let me be clear. The IRS is cracking down harder than ever. And this ain't gonna go away anytime soon. That's why you need Tax Network usa. They don't just know the irs. They have a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to deal with and which to avoid. Their expert negotiators have one goal. Settle your tax problems quickly and in your favor. Their team has helped clear over $1 billion in tax debt. Whether you owe 10,000 or 10 million, even if your books are a mess or you haven't filed in years, Tax Network USA can help. But don't wait. This won't fix itself. Call Tax Network USA right now. It's free. Talk to a strategist. And finally, put this behind you. Call 1-800-958-1000. That's 1-800-958-10000 or visit it tnusa.com bannon. Make sure you tell them, Bannon. You'll get a free evaluation. That's 1-800-958-1000. Do not let letters from the IRS or your failure to file work on your nerves anymore. Take action action and do it today.