Episode 4871: Left Implode Over DHS Election Security Unit

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Episode 4871: Left Implode Over DHS Election Security Unit
Date: October 22, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Key Guests: Election Experts, Legal Analysts, Steve Robinson (Journalist), Donald Trump, NATO Secretary General

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode centers on the appointment of election deniers to key positions in the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) Election Integrity team, focusing especially on Heather Honey and Marcy McCarthy. The discussion weaves through concerns about election security, the legacy of 2020 election claims, and broader anxieties about the legitimacy and integrity of future US elections. This is paired with breaking news about left-wing paramilitary activity in Maine, and live coverage of Donald Trump’s press availability on sanctions, foreign policy, tariffs, and domestic issues such as immigration, energy, and urban crime.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The New DHS Election Integrity Leadership

• Heather Honey and Marcy McCarthy appointments: Both are known for efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in key states. (00:00)
• Reaction from election experts: Deep concerns raised about granting investigative and prosecutorial powers to individuals who continue to promote debunked claims about US elections.
  • Elections could be disrupted or officials intimidated if investigations target those refuting “the big lie.” (03:27)
  • The willingness of these officials to "indulge the most fanciful of claims" is described as unprecedented. (04:06)

Notable Quotes

• Election Expert: “If it's accompanied by the Department of Justice, then they have broad authority to prosecute. I promise you, that can potentially disrupt and alarm. If nothing else, it will make a number of election administrators nervous…” (03:27)
• Legal Analyst: “Heather Honey…was fully discredited as a witness in that Arizona litigation. A judge found…[her claims] would not come close to clear and convincing evidence.” (04:15)

2. Continuing Misinformation & Election Denialism

• Persistent myths: Claims of hacked election machines, dead voters, and foreign interference remain pervasive despite repeated court defeats and massive settlements for defamation, such as Fox's payout to Dominion Voting. (00:00-03:00)
• CISA and Election Security: Despite officials like Chris Krebs repeatedly confirming voting machines aren't connected to the internet and that there is a secure paper trail, conspiracies persist. (05:30-06:10)

Notable Quotes

• Election Expert: “97% of voters in the US use a paper ballot. There is always a non-hackable, auditable paper trail.” (06:10)
• Steve Bannon: “This is the primal scream of a dying regime… The people have had a belly full of it.” (07:02)

3. Breaking News: Left-Wing Paramilitary Activity in Maine

• Steve Robinson reports: Progressive Senate candidate Graham Platner’s involvement with the Socialist Rifle Association and paramilitary firearm training for far-left activists, including those with links to Antifa and other groups. (09:21)
• CNN coverage criticized: Accusations that mainstream media buried the story’s key details, focusing instead on trivialities. (12:26)
• Concern over militarization and political violence: Bannon contextualizes the Maine revelations within a broader discussion about non-traditional threats to election integrity.

Notable Quotes

• Steve Robinson: “In Reddit comments…he says that he provides training, including defensive handgun training, to the Socialist Rifle Association… His tutelage would be invaluable if you were a bunch of LGBTQ leftists who didn’t know how to use firearms.” (09:21)
• Steve Bannon: “Anybody that comes across as a populist, they’re going to jump on… There’s no populist over there. It’s all phony.” (11:37)

4. Trump Administration Updates: Foreign Policy and Domestic Issues

• Trump on Russia/Ukraine (19:11): Announces heavy new sanctions against Russian oil companies, expresses hope for a ceasefire, and claims both Putin and Zelensky want peace.
• Press Q&A:
  • On the US government shutdown: Blames Democrats for economic disruption and disputes claims of inadequacy regarding healthcare negotiations. (20:21)
  • On drug interdiction: Claims a tough stance on narcotics entering by sea, boasts drastic reduction in “ocean drugs,” and affirms legal authority for military action against drug boats. (21:29-25:57)
  • On tariffs & the Supreme Court: Frames the upcoming Supreme Court decision on tariffs as crucial for national security and economic strength. (49:57-50:06)
  • On White House ballroom project: Highlights transparency, personal funding, and intent to create a lasting legacy. (28:20-32:34)
• NATO Secretary General: Endorses Trump’s vision for a ceasefire in Ukraine and outlines NATO’s support—primarily armaments—paid for by European allies. (27:55-33:51)
• Trump on China & India: Expresses optimism about striking deals on rare earths, soybeans, and nuclear issues; credits his administration with persuading India to reduce oil imports from Russia. (43:29-44:29)

Notable Quotes

• Donald Trump: “Every one of those boats that gets knocked out is saving 25,000 American lives.” (21:37)
• Donald Trump: “With tariffs, we’re a strong, sound country… Without tariffs, we are a laughingstock.” (50:06)
• NATO Secretary General: “What the President is doing today with these sanctions is putting more pressure, of course, on both parts, in this case, on Russia. It’s all about changing the calculus…” (33:20)
• Trump on urban safety: “Washington, D.C. went from one of the most dangerous cities to… one of the safest, and, you know, very proud of that.” (41:05)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:00-06:10] – Overview of 2020 election fraud claims; new DHS appointments; analysis by election experts.
• [07:02-07:51] – Steve Bannon frames appointment of Heather Honey at DHS as a victory for election integrity, triggering “full meltdown” on the left.
• [09:21-13:39] – Steve Robinson reveals paramilitary activities by Maine Senate candidate Graham Platner; critique of CNN and media negligence.
• [18:55-38:05] – Donald Trump’s press event: Russia/Ukraine sanctions, economic policy, White House renovations, criminal justice, and foreign policy.
• [43:29-46:15] – Questions on China, India, oil, and the Russo-Ukrainian War.
• [49:57-52:56] – Trump on Supreme Court tariffs case and its implications for American economic sovereignty.
• [52:56] Onwards – Bannon contextualizes the geopolitical, economic, and domestic stories, closing with criticism of NATO, discussion of EU asset seizures, and more on Maine’s paramilitary groups.

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Memorable Moments

• Bannon’s celebration: He expresses that the “left” is in "full meltdown" over Heather Honey’s appointment and frames it as the end of “stolen elections.” (07:51)
• Steve Robinson’s expose: Detailed reporting connects a prominent Maine progressive to paramilitary training for far-left groups, which sparks debate about media priorities in covering political violence. (09:21)
• Trump’s detailed defense of tariffs: Asserts that US prosperity and peace depend on leveraging tariffs, calling the pending Supreme Court case “one of the most important decisions… in the history of the Supreme Court.” (50:06)
• NATO endorsement: The Secretary General publicly affirms alignment with Trump’s vision on Russia/Ukraine, despite evident strategic tensions within the alliance. (33:20)

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Tone & Language

• Confrontational & polarizing: Bannon’s language is combative, frequently framing current developments as existential political struggles (“primal scream of a dying regime”).
• Vindication narrative: Frequent references to past “injustices” (2020 election, media conduct, previous administrations) and a sense of payback or resurgence.
• Populist rhetoric: Emphasis on “the people,” government overreach, and media biases.
• Trump’s style: Characteristically defensive, detailed on policy, quick to assign blame to political adversaries, and heavily focused on his personal legacy.

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Summary for Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode tracks the partisan battle over US election security, focusing on the appointment of controversial figures to the DHS Election Integrity team. Steve Bannon and guests frame this as a victory for conservatives and a cause for panic on the left, while critics warn of unprecedented threats to nonpartisan election administration. The episode is equally defined by breaking news linking left-wing activists in Maine to paramilitary firearms training, with sharp attacks on media coverage of leftist extremism. Later, Donald Trump holds a wide-ranging press conference, addressing sanctions on Russia, efforts to end the Ukraine war, economic policies such as tariffs and energy prices, and his self-financed White House ballroom project. The tone is triumphant for the right, dismissive of mainstream media and Democratic narratives, and insistent on the importance of “integrity” in both elections and US sovereignty.

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For further detail, see timestamps and the highlighted quotes to focus on the episode’s most pivotal content.

Transcript

[Narrator/Host]

Six days after the major news networks called the 2020 Race for Joe Biden, the former mayor of New York City stood before reporters as hair dye streamed down his face and declared the election was stolen. He said he would prove it in court, but he never produced any of that proof. Not in Wisconsin, not in Arizona, not in Michigan, not in Pennsylvania. Of the more than 60 lawsuits challenging the 2020 results, Trump got a favorable ruling in just one case. And it was only procedural and it only affected a few hundred ballots. Not enough to sway any results. The other cases were either dismissed, settled, or voluntarily withdrawn. But the myth of the fraud that dead people voted, machines were hacked, a foreign government interfered with, and votes were flipped, well, that myth lived on, promoted ad nauseam on conservative media. But the myth even lost there. And it was costly. After trashing Dominion Voting machines, Fox News was forced to pay one of the largest Defamation Settlements in U.S. history, $787 million, to keep that case from going to trial. And yet, the myth of a stolen election still lives. Because the President of the United States, despite being back in the Oval office, can't let 2020 go. He refuses to accept he lost. And not accepting it has become a litmus test for anyone in the Republican Party, be they a lawmaker or a member of President Trump's second administration. It's not just refusing to accept the loss. It's investigating those who publicly stated the truth about the election, like Chris Krebs. And now it's also potentially continuing and continuing investigation into the loss itself, and maybe even using the delusion to gain more power over the next elections. President Trump's new Election Integrity team at the Department of Homeland Security includes Heather honey and Marcy McCarthy, McCarthy, two election deniers who work to overturn the results in Georgia and Pennsylvania. Honey is now deputy Assistant Secretary for Election Integrity at the Department of homeland security. And McCarthy was named director of Public affairs at the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, or cisa. According to the New York Times, Honey hosted a call with election officials from nearly all 50 states last month. The paper reports many of the officials left that call alarmed five people familiar with the call say Honey spent much of her time repeating claims that the 2020 election was fraudulent, question the mission of CISA, and made multiple references to a report that election machines had been hacked and could not be trusted. Ms. Honey and Ms. McCarthy did not respond to the New York Times request for comment, and the Homeland Security Department declined to give specifics about the department's election work. But it is because these individuals are now responsible for laying the groundwork for the upcoming midterm and presidential elections that many election experts are even more alarmed today.

[Election Expert]

Well, she has broad authority to investigate through the Department of Homeland Security. And then, of course, if it's accompanied by the Department of Justice, then they have broad authority to prosecute. And I promise you, that can potentially disrupt an alarm. And if nothing else, it will make a number of election administrators nervous if they're simply calling spades a spade and saying, no, the 2020 election wasn't stolen or no, the 2026 election wasn't stolen or the 2028 election wasn't stolen. And so now I think for the first time ever, we have a number of people within these government offices who are willing to indulge the most fanciful of claims.

[Donald Trump]

And.

[Election Expert]

And that simply did not exist in President Trump's administration in 2020, by and large, with the exceptions of people like John Eastman.

[Legal Analyst]

Heather Honey should know better, because in 2022, well after the 2020 election, and Steven knows this probably better than anybody else, she was a witness in litigation brought in Arizona, where she claimed that certain procedures used by a particular county could have allowed false ballots to be counted. And again, I'm reading from the New York Times story right now. But as she was questioned, she ackn she had no evidence that this had occurred on a widespread scale. She was fully discredited as a witness in that Arizona litigation. And a judge found and again, I'm quoting from his decision, would not come close to clear and convincing evidence that the election outcome was affected. And nonetheless, Heather Honey has it in her mind that more people voted than were entitled to vote across a number of states in various counties, etc. And she is not letting go of that idea, joining forces with people like Cleta Mitchell to say that they are the true defenders of election integrity and they will get to the bottom of why there are discrepancies between voter rolls and the number of votes cast. They believe there is widespread fraud in who is registered to vote and who is actually voting, and that they themselves are the only ones who are willing and able to get to the bottom.

[Narrator/Host]

All right, if there are National Guard troops on the ground and people are concerned about feeling intimidated to go to the polls, or what if there is another argument that these election machines are all being hacked? I know there's transparency. I know people like you and people like the Secretary of State have been going out and trying to say these things are not attached to the Internet. I mean, Chris Krebs has said that over and over again they're not attached to the Internet, they can't be hacked. But that, that myth that that lie is still pushed. So there's that, but then there's also just the physical aspect of it. If there's national troops on the ground in some of these polling places, what's the advice of local officials?

[Election Expert]

Well, I would say if you're in a state like Nevada or Arizona, you can certainly vote ahead of time. You can vote no excuse early and you can vote by mail. As for machines being hacked, not only are they not connected to the Internet, but 97% of voters in the United States use a paper ballot. That means that there is always a non hackable auditable paper trail. And to my fellow conservatives and Republicans out there, I would say continue to believe in the rule of law and the rule of law. The courts have shown consistently after 2020, after 2022, after 2024, that despite what people like Heather Honey have alleged, our elections have been fair and they have been lawful and they have been accurate. And if the courts rule such in 2026, then I hope and I trust that people will abide by the elections.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

[Donald Trump]

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.

[Narrator/Host]

I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Steve Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.

[Donald Trump]

Country, this country will be saved. War room here's your host, Stephen k. Banner.

[Steve Bannon]

Wednesday 22nd October year of our Lord 2025. Heather Honey, the great Heather Honey is now was it deputy over at the at DHS for election integrity. They're full meltdown baby. Full meltdown. You got Cleta Mitchell's wingman, Heather Honey and Heather's one of the toughest and the best now in charge of election integrity for the United States government. Does it get any better than that? They're losing it because they understand. No more stolen elections. No more none. The null set. So that was announced this afternoon. They're a full meltdown. We may go to the Oval Office here shortly. The Secretary General of NATO is there. Not that we care about that. The president may take questions. We definitely care about that. So it could be open. Let's. We got a lot to get through. We've been making a lot of news here at the war room today. Steve Robinson from Maine has got that great news site up there. Steve, you've got a breaking news story that's quite important about the main elections, talking about election integrity. We've been warning about people that it's not the foot soldier you see in the streets of Antifa or these protests, the ones that are getting violent. It's the people that train them, particularly folks in the military and people. Well, no, nobody in the military. They're all patriots. Well, that's not actually the case. Steve Robinson, what is this breaking story coming out of Maine, Sir?

[Steve Robinson]

Hi, Steve, thanks for having me on. We actually reported this morning that Graham Platner, the progressive darling who's been endorsed by Bernie Sanders and received universally positive, just gushing coverage right up until Governor Janet Mills decided that she was going to run for the US Senate seat for a chance to challenge Susan Collins. He's been active with a group called the Socialist Rifle Association. It's a playoff of the nra, but it's a group that's linked with Antifa and also the group out in Salt Lake City, the trans paramilitary group that is connected with Tyler Robinson Charlie Kirk's assassination. So that's how the Socialist Rifle association first kind of popped into the national consciousness, at least for me. But we found that there was a main chapter and started digging into it. And then when this Graham Platner story broke, we found Reddit comments that he'd posted which are now deleted. But I think everyone now agrees that P. Hussle is in fact Graham Platner. He hasn't denied making it any of these comments. In some of the comments that CNN missed when they broke the first story, he says that he provides training, including defensive handgun training, to the Socialist Rifle Association. He's of course, an ex Marine, ex Army Reserve, former private contractor in Afghanistan doing close security for the ambassador. So he knows his way around firearms. And his tutelage would be invaluable if you were a bunch of LGBTQ leftists who didn't know how to use firearms. And when we went looking at the social media accounts for the Socialist Rifle association chapter of Maine, we found tons of pictures of multiple cases of paramilitary training out on the range, including pictures where an individual who looks just like Graham Plattner with red hair and a red beard is seen playing range officer for them. So it's clear that Graham is a little bit more of a far left radical than he's led on in some of his campaign appearances. And this combined with revelations that he has a literal Nazi tattoo on his chest that he never got rid of for 17 years, I think is making it a very, very bad week for Graham and a good week for Maine Governor Janet Mills.

[Steve Bannon]

Look, the reason he was embraced is that anybody that comes across as a populist, they're going to jump on. And of course, there's no populist over there. It's all phony. I'm less concerned too, about the tattoos is a typical thing. The left jumps on. But I'm more than concerned. But what your reporting has shown. I have to ask you first in doing this research, Steve, it strains credulity to think that CNN did not see this, sir. They just didn't want to report it because this gets down to the heart of it. This gets down to the T5. I mean, walk us. Take a time. We're going to get some space for you here. Unless we got to go to the park oval. Walk us through your process. And how the great investigative team over the CNN got the really, the unimportant comments and forgot the. They forgot the meat, sir.

[NATO Secretary General]

Yeah.

[Steve Robinson]

Well, Steve, that's excellent. That's my first thought as well, was leave it to CNN to focus on him saying the word retarded instead of the paramilitary military training that he was doing with antifa super soldiers. I mean, that seems like they buried the lead a little bit. That seems like the first place where a journalist would go. But I managed to get my hands on the opposition research file. I don't know this for sure, but I don't believe that CNN did this investigative work themselves. I think this was handed to them by opposition researchers. It's too convenient. It was just two days after Janet Mills declared, I think this is Chuck Schumer playing dirty. And what leads me to believe that is that I received the same exact file. Somebody had found a way to archive 800 of his Reddit posts that he'd attempted to delete. And we were scanning through those and just, you know, control f Socialist Rifle association. And bing right there. There's two posts where he says, we do range days, we do these trainings, we do this. I taught, I put on a defensive handgun training. It's very clear that he's involved in this and he considers himself a member of the Socialist Rifle Association.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Journalist]

I saw, Mr. President, that you said as recently as yesterday that you still believe that Putin wants to end a war and today he took this step to ratio the sanctions and put more pressure on him. What else are you going to do to encourage him to get there? Or can you explain why you do.

[Narrator/Host]

But believe that he wants peace?

[Donald Trump]

Yeah, that's a good question. Today is a very big day in terms of what we're doing. Look, these are tremendous sanctions. These are very big. Those are against their two big oil companies and we hope that they won't be on for long. We hope that the war will be settled. We just answered having to do with the various forms of missiles and everything else that we're looking at, but we don't think that's going to be necessary. We would like to see them just take the line that has been formed over quite a long period of time and go and let's, you know, go home. Last week they had almost 8,000 soldiers killed. Many Russians were killed last week. Many Ukrainians were killed last week. We think it's ridiculous and we'd like to have it end.

[Journalist]

Why do you think you want peace, though? Why do you still believe that?

[Donald Trump]

I think they want peace. I think they both want peace. Peace at this point it's been, you know, it's almost four years. You're going into four years and if I were president, it never would have started. But yeah, it's time.

[Legal Analyst]

Mr. President, on the shutdown, do you.

[Journalist]

Plan to meet with Democrats before you head to Asia? And if not, why not meet with the Democrats?

[Donald Trump]

Mr. Well, I think it's a shame that it's shut down because we have the greatest economy, as you were saying before, we have the greatest economy in the world right now by far, the United States. We have almost 18 now with 17 now. It's $18 trillion being poured into our country and it's no time for shutdowns. I don't think it's affecting what we're doing, but it's, it's too bad for a lot of people. We have a lot of good people that aren't working right now that should be and it's because the Democrats want to try and renegotiate a deal that they had negotiated. They want $1.5 trillion given to illegal immigrants who came into the country, and it's going to hurt the healthcare of citizens of our country that have been paying into it, that have been working hard for it, that really deserve it. So we're never going to do that. It's not going to happen. And I will tell you, there are a lot of good Democrats that really want to make a deal. And all we need is five Democrats because we have great support on the Republican side. So I think we need five Democrats and there are a lot of them that want to make a. So I think at some point, at some point, common sense will prevail. Yeah, go ahead.

[Journalist]

You can finish up on the drug boat strike in the eastern Pacific. Can you explain to us what that was about, how it was conducted?

[Donald Trump]

Yeah, sure. Well, they had one today in the Pacific. And the way I look at it, every time I look, because it is violent and it is very. It's amazing that the weaponry. Every. Everyone you know, they have these boats that go 45, 50 miles an hour on the water. And when you look at the accuracy and the power, look, we have the greatest military in the world. We have the greatest weapons in the world. And you see a little bit of it there. One shot, everyone dead center. And the only way you can't feel bad about it is you realize that you won't feel badly about it is you realize that every time you see that happen, you're saving 25,000Americans lives. Every one of those boats that gets knocked out is saving 25,000American lives. Not to mention the torn up families all over the country. And whenever I see that, I say to myself, I just saved 25,000 lives. I will say that there are very few boats traveling on the water right now. Actually, that includes fishing boats. That includes any other kind of boat. But there are very few boats traveling on the water. So now they'll come in by land at a lesser. To a lesser extent. And they will be hit on land also. Go ahead in the back, please.

[Steve Bannon]

Do you have legal authority if they do come?

[Donald Trump]

Yes, we do. We have legal authority. Right? We're allowed to do that. And if we do buy land, we may go back to Congress. But we have. This is a national security problem. They killed 300,000 people last year. Drugs. These drugs coming in. They killed 300,000Americans last year. And that gives you legal authority. We have a national security, really. I will say, when you look at the people we're dealing with and we know them, we know the people coming in, we know the boats, we know everything else. We're allowed to do it. It's in international waters. If we don't do it, we're going to lose hundreds of thousands of people. Now they'll be coming in by land a little bit more because they're not coming in by boat anymore. There are no boats in the water. There are no more Boats, we know the boat almost immediately. You know, it's pretty unusual when you see somebody with a fishing rod and five engines on the back of the boat. You know, you don't need that to go fishing. Wait, wait, wait. And we will hit them very hard when they come in by land. And they haven't experienced that yet. But now we're totally prepared to do that. We'll probably go back to Congress and explain exactly what we're doing when we come to the land. We don't have to do that, but I think, Marco, I'd like to do that. You may respond to that if you want.

[Security Official]

Well, I mean, the question is, bottom line, these are drug boats. If people want to stop seeing drug boats blow up, stop sending drugs to the United States.

[Donald Trump]

But does it matter if it's in the United States?

[Security Official]

Well, these are all in international waters.

[Steve Bannon]

The boat strike in the United States or if there was a.

[Security Official]

Well, that's a different matter. Now you're talking about a law enforcement matter. In this particular case, there are people traveling on international waters headed towards the United States with hostilities in mind, which includes flooding our country with dangerous, deadly drugs. And they're going to be stopped. And that's what's happening. And in the case last week, you saw there was a submarine. It was a submarine. It was a submersible. That's a drug boat all the way through. We know what these boats are. The President just said it. We tracked them from the very beginning. We know who's on them. We know who they are, where they're coming from, what they have on them. And you know, if you're running drug boats, you're in grave danger.

[Donald Trump]

And drug usage is way down. And drug usage coming from the sea. They call it ocean drugs. A little term that they use, the ocean drugs, is very close to nonexistent right now. I wouldn't want to be in one of those boats heading away. You know, they're driving happily to destroy the lives of people. And they end up. That's the end of them. So the ocean drugs and the sea drugs. Drugs by sea, they call it also. That's almost down to nothing, as you can imagine. So they continue to come in by land at a little bit less because they see something is going to happen. They don't like it. They see and they're right. Something very serious is going to happen, the equivalent of what's happening by sea. And we're going to Congress just to tell them what we're doing, just to keep them informed. But we have to do it for national security. We have to do it to save lives.

[Steve Robinson]

Secretary Besant said that Vladimir Putin had.

[Donald Trump]

Not been honest and forthright in his.

[Steve Robinson]

Talks at the Union. Just wondering if you could tell us a little bit more about your feelings about that.

[Donald Trump]

And also, if I may, to Mimir.

[Steve Robinson]

Ruta, just your thoughts on whether Ukraine should get.

[Journalist]

Tom Holmes, thank you.

[Donald Trump]

Well, I think that in terms of honesty, the only thing I can say is every time I speak with Vladimir, I have good conversations. And then they don't go anywhere. They just don't go anywhere. So in that sense. But now, look, he's fighting a war. He's in a war that's two very competent sides and that's the way war is. You never know with war. But I would say that it's time. It's time to make a deal. A lot of people are dying. You know, they're not Americans, but they're people. They're souls. And they're dying by the thousands. Worst since World War II. And we really should stop it.

[NATO Secretary General]

To your other question.

[Donald Trump]

Yeah, please.

[NATO Secretary General]

Sorry. To your other question. This has been consistent from this president. When we first met again after your re election in Mar a Lago in November, you said we have to stop the killing. This is close to your heart and this is your vision. That's why this war needs to end. When it comes to Tomahawks, whatever system is up to individual nations to decide whatever they want to supply to Ukraine, NATO doesn't take a position. But I can assure you this. When the President called me in July and said we want to again send weapons into Ukraine, paid for by our allies, the Canadians and the Europeans, that was an important moment and that is now taking place. And the ambassador myself, we're working hard at this already a couple billion dollars of weaponry into Ukraine from the US Paid for my allies. So I'm not going to comment on the Tomahawks. But when it comes to the US and all the support for Ukraine, it is there and it is close to the President's heart. And I notice, I will, I will.

[Donald Trump]

Say this, and you know, Mark can say it better than anybody. The European nations and Canada have really pulled together and it's beyond even that. I mean, it's, it's really beyond that.

[NATO Secretary General]

Australians and New Zealanders, Japan, they're all.

[Donald Trump]

If you want to really add them up, we could really add them up. But NATO, basically, European and Canada and a lot of other nations, they've really band together. They are not happy about what's Happening with Russia and Ukraine. They're not happy at all. Neither am I. Jeff.

[Security Official]

Sir, just changing this topic slightly. I see you've got the model of.

[Donald Trump]

The White House and the ballroom.

[Journalist]

Many people were surprised the entire East Wing is being demolished because you had.

[Security Official]

Said initially that the ballroom would just touch.

[Donald Trump]

Well, certain areas are being left. Certain areas are being left. We determined that after really a tremendous amount of study with some of the best architects in the world, we determined that. Really knocking it down, trying to use a little section, you know, the East Wing was not much. There was not much left from the original. It was. Over the course of 100 years, it was changed. The. The columns were removed, and it was a much different building. Then a story was added on. In 1948, 1949, there was a story added on which was not particularly nice. And the building was very, very much changed from what it was originally. It was never thought of as being much. It was a very small building, and rather than allowing that to hurt, a very expensive, beautiful building that, frankly, they've been after for years. You have that. I brought these along so people could see. But it's. You know, there's a relative. Nobody has actually seen anything quite like it. I think it will be one of the great ballrooms anywhere in the world. It's about $300 million. It's set to do many, many things, including meetings of foreign leaders, including the honoring of foreign leaders. You can see this. This is a plan. If it's got tables so that you honor a foreign leader, we have a proper space. Right now, we have a space that, with tables, holds about 79 people. And this is a proper kind of a thing. Now, what the White House was doing, as you know, is they were putting tents out on the lawn. This is an interior shot of the ballroom. I think there will be nothing like it. And it's being paid for 100% by me and some friends of mine, donors to it. The government is paying absolutely nothing. We're also working with the military on it because they want to make sure everything is perfect. And the military is very much involved in this. They want to make sure everything is absolutely beautiful. You can see the kind of interiors that we're talking about. That's an interior of the ballroom, and it's the highest level. And you see, it goes beautifully with the White House. I mean, the mix is beautiful. So over the years, many presidents have made changes. This obviously, would be the biggest change. But this was something they've wanted for at least 150 years. Many of you have gone to the events where they had, as an example, President Xi or they had, you know, a leader of one of the countries, including the king and the queen from your favorite country. Absolutely, frankly. But where they'd be honored and there'd be in a tent out on the lawn and it would rain and it would. Was a disaster. Brian is shaking his head. You know what I'm talking about. And so I thought I'd bring this out because this is going to be probably the finest ballroom ever built. And we're doing it. No cost to the country. It's being put, the money is being put in by me and donors. Very great patriots, actually. And the spirit on the building of it is amazing. We are using little sections of footings and various other things, but that's sort of irrelevant. In order to do it properly, we had to take down the existing structure. The way it was shown, it looked like we were touching the White House. We don't touch the White House. That's a bridge, a glass bridge going from the White House to the ballroom. Then you get into the lobby of the ballroom and then you go into the magnificent, the main room. And it's something that has gotten incredible reviews. Just quickly following up on that.

[Journalist]

Just quickly following up on that, sir.

[Donald Trump]

I just want a quick follow up on that question.

[Journalist]

Your response to people who said that you haven't been transparent enough about this.

[Donald Trump]

I haven't been transparent. That's some of your. I've shown this to everybody that would listen. Third rate reporters didn't see it because they didn't look. You're a third rate reporter, always have been. So third rate reporters didn't look. But anybody that asked. These pictures have been in newspapers, they've been all over the place and, and you know, we're very proud of it. It's gotten great reviews. It's gotten really great reviews. So, Mr. President, I think we've been more transparent than anybody's ever.

[Journalist]

Why do you believe, Mr. President, that the sanctions that you're announcing today will push Putin to the next level?

[Donald Trump]

Well, I don't know that they will. I think that they'll certainly have an impact. They're massive sanctions and sanctions on oil. The two biggest oil companies among the biggest in the world. But they're Russian, they do a lot of oil and hopefully it'll push. Hopefully he'll become reasonable and hopefully Zelensky will be reasonable too. You know, it takes two to tango, as they say. And we're going to find out. They've had. They Hate each other. These two people hate each other. You know that better than anybody. And it makes it more difficult than it should be. This should be easier to do. But the level of hatred between Zelenskyy and Putin is very substantial.

[NATO Secretary General]

Could I add one thing? Could I add one thing? Could I add one thing? What the President is doing today with these sanctions is putting more pressure, of course, on both parts, in this case, on Russia. It's all about changing the calculus, making sure that Putin understands that the President's vision this weekend of having a ceasefire stop where they are, as you literally said, that this has to be step one. And for him to really accept that vision and to come to the table and then you have to put pressure. And this is exactly what he did.

[Donald Trump]

Today, along with Europe. I mean, Europe. Look, these are become. They've actually become friends of mine, I think all of them. We have a very close relationship. And they want to see it end, too. They really want to see it end. But I can say they're totally committed if this went on for 10 more years. Europe is behind them. They just can't let that happen. And you can't let what's been going on now. It should have never happened. It would have never happened if I were president. But it did happen. I inherited. This was Biden, a man who was, without question. You take a look at the new walkway, the Presidential Walk of Fame, we call it. Biden. He's the worst president we've ever had, if he was even a president. The people that surrounded that desk made those decisions. But this should have never happened. It wouldn't have happened. But it did happen. I inherited it. We're going to get it ended hopefully soon. Yes, please.

[Journalist]

You had a trick Social Post earlier this afternoon talking about a Wall Street Journal report as a fake story.

[Donald Trump]

Yeah, fake. Wall Street Journal is fake. Less fake on financial than it is on gossip.

[Journalist]

Can you just confirm that my understanding of what's happening is accurate?

[Narrator/Host]

As.

[Journalist]

As I understand it, that story framed it like we had just lifted the US a restriction on intelligence.

[Donald Trump]

No, it said that I gave Ukraine permission to shoot missiles deep into Russia. I didn't do that. Second of all, they're not using our missiles. They're using, I think European missiles are from someplace, but they're not using ours. And what they do, I don't control that, but I do control our missiles. They're not shooting our missiles in. It was a fake story. Wall Street Journal does a lot of fake stories. Thank you so much.

[Journalist]

The President of Colombia in a Recent interview said that if you won't change. He thinks that people should get rid of.

[Donald Trump]

We're talking about now Colombia, the country, not the university go to. He said what?

[Journalist]

He said that if you won't change, then perhaps you need to be gotten rid of.

[Donald Trump]

Do you view that as a threat? Well, he's a thug and bad guy. He's a guy that is making a lot of drugs. We've just, as of today, stopped all payments going to Colombia, the country, Colombia, also the school of Colombia. No, we settled. We made a settlement with him. But no, he's a thug and he's a bad guy and he's hurt his country very badly. They're doing very poorly. Colombia, they make cocaine. They have cocaine factories. They grow all sorts of crap. That's drugs. Bad drugs coming into the United States goes generally through Mexico. And he better watch it or we'll take very serious action against him and his country. His country is. What he has led his country into is a death trap. Please. Has the Secretary General presented his Ukraine peace plan? Are you prepared to be Chairman of the Board of Peace?

[NATO Secretary General]

Oh, there is no Secretary General peace plan, but I'm here. No, no, really, I really want to go. Actor because I saw some of that in the media. Of course, many people are thinking how to bring this terrible war to an end and supporting the President in doing that. Why I'm here is to dialogue again with the President. How I can be, how NATO, my colleagues and other colleagues in NATO can be of maximum support to get that done. But there is no peace plan on the table. I mean, if there is a peace plan, it is what the President said last Friday and Sunday, which is stop where you are. Stop the fighting.

[Donald Trump]

This is about NATO. We're a very proud member of NATO. We have a great relationship with the countries of NATO. I think made much better by our visit a few months ago when they agreed to. They agreed to 5% instead of 2% of GDP. That was a big concession. I think that was a concession that two years ago nobody would have said.

[NATO Secretary General]

Even a year ago, even nine months ago, before you were elected.

[Donald Trump]

Yeah, they would have said that's not possible. And the difference is they're paying 5% as a. Opposed to not paying 2%. They were. A lot of them weren't paying, with the exception of Spain. I think you're going to have to talk to Spain because they're not. Spain is not a team player. So other than Spain, everybody is 100%. And you could solve the Spain problem very easily. I think, you know, if you'll. Brian, Brian, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. Then we'll take. Brian, go ahead.

[Journalist]

The soybean farmers, are they going to be getting support from you soon?

[Donald Trump]

And you're ahead of your meeting. Mr. So what's happened? You could say with that, you could say with beef, with all of it, the beef. The ranchers, let's say, who have done a great job have lost their shirts for many, many years. They've really been decimated and I help them a lot. I put tariffs on things coming in to the country to looting beef and that gave them a chance to finally have a decent industry. We are going to be talking to them. They're great people, but they've been hurt for 25, 30 years. They've been losing because other countries have taken advantage of them and by putting tariffs on, they've been able to make a few dollars, they've been able to have an industry. But I also want to keep the beef prices low. So I'll be talking with the ranchers and I'll be speaking, speaking with a lot of different people, including Scott and Howard, and we'll do something because prices are way down in our country. Energy is way down. I think you're going to see $2 gasoline very soon. I see that it's $2.50 in a lot of places. $2.50. We were heading to 5, 6 and $7. If Biden didn't go back to my policy toward the end, you would have seen, but he didn't go back to the full policy and he missed the most important thing, thing. So we were up to, you know, we were way up. I think you're going to see $2 gasoline. We couldn't even break that number. That's a big difference. The only, the only cost that's really up is beef. And the fake news only wants to talk about beef. And what I did is I made it possible for those people to survive. They're incredible people, but they were being decimated by other countries and I didn't want that to happen. So prices are way down, groceries are down, everything is down. Energy is way down, even interest rates with a bad chairman of the Fed. He's terrible, he's a fool. But even interest rates are down. So our country has never done better. We're going to take In, I think, 21, 20, $21 trillion this year. No country has ever taken in more than three. And we're going to take in $21 trillion of investment because of the tariffs. If we didn't have tariffs, we would be a mess. We would be a national security problem. And we've done a job. So I'm very happy about that. We're going to do we're going to do something very quickly and easily on beef to get it down. The ranchers understand that. They're so happy for what I've done. I saved them. I don't think you'd have any beef in this country if I didn't do that. So we're very proud of that. Yeah. Brian.

[Steve Bannon]

Immigration officials were attacked by some.

[Donald Trump]

Protesters in an attempt to arrest an illegal alien.

[Steve Bannon]

Gavin Newsom, other Democrats have used very aggressive language in terms of how to.

[Donald Trump]

Address ice ages out in the field. Is there any responsibility that we can.

[Steve Bannon]

Place on Gavin Newsom and other elected officials who are using such aggressive language?

[Donald Trump]

Well, Gavin has to be careful. Remember that when I first came in, they had a terrible riot in Los Angeles. They had the fires, which shouldn't have happened. They didn't have the water for the fires. They should have had the water coming in from the Pacific Northwest. They didn't have the waters. They didn't have water in the hydrants or the sprinklers. So they had the fires and then they had the riot. And if we didn't go and take care of that riot, you would have lost Los Angeles. You would have canceled the Olympics, which is because of me in Los Angeles. And the police commissioner, the head of the police, said if the president didn't come in, we would have lost Los Angeles. We did not have the capability of taking care of it. And he said it very strongly and we did a great job. And within a week it was all done. Within one day it was done. But within a week it was all done. And then they go back to their normal practice of weakness of not taking care of criminals, meaning taking care of putting them in jails where they should be. Washington, D.C. and you all are the best people for that because Washington, D.C. is now one of the safest cities. It was one of the most dangerous cities in the country. Now, Washington, D.C. believe it or not, I'm embarrassed to say it in front of you, but Washington, D.C. went from one of the worst, most dangerous cities to you can walk down the street, you can send your child to meet you at a location. Your child is going to be fine. We have a very, very safe city, one of the safest and, you know, very proud of that. Memphis, by the way, is coming along fantastically. We're in Memphis right now. We're, we had the FBI in Chicago. We're doing things. We haven't served Chicago yet. When we do, Chicago will be very quickly, a very, very safe city. But if you look at what's happening in Memphis, it's great, but you got to look at Washington. People are coming up to me, people that work in the White House. They're saying, thank you, sir. And I immediately know what they're thinking me about. It's thanking they can walk to work. They would never walk to work a year ago. They can walk into work and they feel safe and secure, and it's beautiful. And I'll tell you what, it's really an honor to add that great ballroom to the structures in Washington. It's going to be one of the great ballrooms of the world. And I think it's going to be something you're all going to be very proud of.

[Journalist]

Mr. President, good evening.

[NATO Secretary General]

Thank you.

[Journalist]

As it relates to your meeting that's coming up with President Xi, what do you hope comes out of that meeting?

[Donald Trump]

What deliverables come out? I think we'll make a deal. I think we're going to make a deal on the rare earth is the least of it. Look, the tariffs are much more powerful than the rare earth. The rare earth is a disturbance, but there's a lot of rare earth around. I'll tell you, I've had more calls on rare earth. We've got it. Everybody's. We'll make a deal on, I think, everything. I think we're going to make a deal on soybeans and the farmers. I think we're going to make a deal on maybe even nuclear. You know, President Putin in his call mentioned to me about nuclear, where we do a de escalation, and I'm fine with that. I think it's good. I think it's a very appropriate thing. We have the most nuclear weapons. Russia is second. China is actually third by a long way, but they'll be even within four or five years too many. And we are talking about de escalation. That's already being talked about.

[Journalist]

Can you convince President.

[Donald Trump]

And I think we'll add. We'll probably add China into the mix.

[Journalist]

Mr. President, convince President Xi to stop purchasing all that Russian oil that's funding this war against Ukraine.

[Donald Trump]

Well, I think I'll be talking to him about it. I think it's a little bit of a different talk. India, as you know, has told me they are top stop. You know, it's a process. You can't just stop it. But by the end of the Year, they'll be down to almost nothing. That's a big thing. There was almost 40% of the oil. India, they've been great. Spoke to Prime Minister Modi yesterday. They've been absolutely great. China is a little bit different. You know, they're a little bit different. Relationship they have with Russia, it was never good. But because of Biden and Obama, they got forced together. They should never have been forced together, but they're a little bit forced. But they're by. By nature, they're not. They can't be friendly. They can't be friendly. By nature, they can't. I hope they are friendly, frankly, but they can't be. The. You don't want. You should not have forced Russia and China together. And Biden did that and Obama did that. They forced them together because of energy, because of oil, and so they are closer than they would normally be. I think I'll probably be talking about it. What I'll really be talking to him about is how do we end the war with Russia and Ukraine, whether it's through oil or energy or anything else. And I think he's going to be very receptive. He would now like to. I'm not sure that he did at the beginning. He would now like to see that war end.

[Journalist]

Plays one primary role. Mr. President, do you think Xi plays an important role in terms of inserting himself and convincing Putin, who he speaks to regularly, to stop the war right now?

[Donald Trump]

Yeah, I do. I think he can have a big influence on Putin. I think he can have a big influence on a lot of people. Look, he's a respected man. He's a very strong leader of a very big country. Yeah, I think he can have a big influence. And we will certainly be talking about Russia, Ukraine in the back.

[Journalist]

Thank you, Mr. President. Liam Kosgroup is your head. My question is actually for the Secretary General. Mr. Secretary, I don't know if you've seen this, but polling out of Ukraine shows a massive collapse in Ukrainian support for the war. A Gallup poll had at just 23%. That's less than a quarter. Zelensky came out to today praising President Trump's proposal for freezing the front lines of battle as part of a ceasefire. He said that's a good compromise. So people view your coming here as you're lobbying the US government to continue its involvement in the war. You're obviously lobbying for more NATO weapons to be sent to Ukraine, but Ukrainians themselves don't want to fight the war. So how do you justify that morally?

[NATO Secretary General]

I'm Lobbying only for one thing, and that is to make sure that we end this war. And I don't have to lobby the President, because we totally agree on this. And this is what he has been doing from day one. Everything he could do to break the death lock with Putin, get a dialogue going, dialoguing also with Zelensky and getting this war done. It's crucial. And the fact that the US Is now supplying weapons into Ukraine, paid for by allies, is extremely important. And that's now happening since 2, 3 months. About 2 billion moving into Ukraine.

[Journalist]

Why do you think that'll wind it down now?

[NATO Secretary General]

What do you mean?

[Journalist]

You think more weapons will wind down the war?

[NATO Secretary General]

No, I mean there's more to be done. So what you need, what the President said this weekend, stop where you are. So basically do a ceasefire and then have all your discussions about territory and whatever. But first, stop the war. This is what you said on Friday and on Sunday.

[Donald Trump]

It's a war. I mean, your questions, really. Julia Fairwind. It's a war that should have never started. You know how I feel about it. But it's a war that should have never started. And we're not selling any weapons to Ukraine, we're selling them to NATO, which is different from before with Biden, he just gave $350 billion worth of weapons and cash right into Ukraine. And that was so foolish. But we sell them to NATO, and in theory, you can do what you want with them. You can. It doesn't have to be Ukraine, but probably it is. Most.

[NATO Secretary General]

No, what nations are doing now is buying from this program and making sure that the supplies in Europe for Europeans and Canadians, and for example, these are interceptors for the Patriot systems, crucial to protect the cities. Today, again, a Russian attack has killed children, at least seriously wounded children in kindergarten in Ukraine. So we need to make sure that the air defense systems are in place and we to need. Need the US systems to do that. And the Europeans are paying for that. And this is exactly the type of actions we needed. And the President is doing that and trying everything to get this war to. And starting with the ceasefire, does he.

[Journalist]

Still believe that Putin wants to take all of Ukraine?

[Donald Trump]

I always felt that way. I always felt he wanted to. When I was in my first term, I was with. You know, I was very close to him, relatively speaking, it was harder because of the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax. But I would talk to President Putin about Ukraine and it was the apple of his eye. I'd say it was the apple of his eye, but it would have never happened. He knew the consequences were too great. When we had a rigged election, and all of a sudden I wasn't there. He said, wow. I think he looked at Afghanistan, how horribly that was handled so stupidly. And I think that really gave him a little additional, you know, incentive. I always felt he wanted the whole thing, not a piece of it. But I think now he's willing to negotiate a little bit further, and I think he's willing to make a deal. We'll see. Mr. Polcher. We don't want him. We don't want him to have the whole thing. Go ahead, please.

[Journalist]

Thank you, Mr. President. You have this, the last big tariffs case before the Supreme Court. It's November 5th. You suggested you might actually show up to the Supreme Court.

[Donald Trump]

I think it's one of the most important decisions we'll ever have for the Supreme Court. With tariffs, we're a strong, sound country. We're a nationally secure and internationally secure country. We're a very rich country. Without tariffs, it's a slog for this country, a big slog. I think it's one of the most important, important decisions in the history of the Supreme Court. And I might go there. I really believe I have an obligation to go there. We are doing so well as a country right now because of tariffs. And you have to understand, tariffs have been used against us for many years, decades. And I mean, just slowly but surely hurting our country so badly. That's why we owe $37 trillion. We owe that because other countries have taken advantage of us over many, many decades, over many decades. And now we're a rich country. We're taking in money like we've never done before. Without tariffs, that would not be happening. And also, I solved, as you know, eight wars. Of the eight, five of them, maybe even six of them are because of tariffs. The threat of tariffs on these nations. If you want to fight, that's okay. India and Pakistan, if you want to fight, that's okay. But you're going to pay tariffs, and they're going to be very substantial. And we're in the midst of a trade deal, and they said, we don't want to do that. Two days later, they call up and they're not going to fight anymore. The peace. They have peace. But I've done that out of eight, I would say six. Six times, five times. Six times. Tariffs are vital to this country. And tariffs have been used against us by China, by every other country. And all we're doing is using them to negotiate fair deals. And as you know, we made A fair deal with Japan, we made a fair deal with all of Europe, the European Union, we made a fair deal with South Korea. These are countries that were taking so much money away from us, not sustainable. And now we're taking in hundreds of billions and even trillions of dollars. If this country is not allowed to have tariffs, if this country is not allowed to have the President of the United States negotiate on behalf of it with tariffs, we are put in a position where we're going to be a third world country. We can't let that happen. I think it's the most important case that we're going to have for many, many years to come. One of the most important cases as we've ever had. With tariffs, we're a rich, secure country. Without tariffs, we're a laughingstock. We'll be a laughingstock. And I don't want to have anything to do with that. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, the present. Wow. A press availability, basically dropping the hammer. That right there. He included more sanctions today on Russia, saying he's going to get him to the table. Of course, you saw the Secretary General of the United, of the NATO is right there. Because let's be honest, let's be brutally frank, NATO has been absolutely worthless in this. I hate to be so blunt. And I'm going to turn back to show you how worthless they are. Back to my Financial Times, if I can find it right here. Europe rallies to Zelensky's aid after tussle with Trump. Now, I did not hear about the EU cease deal and frozen Russian assets. This is part of the, this is part of the situation to actually.

[Donald Trump]

This.

[Steve Bannon]

Is part of the situation, actually steal the Russian people's assets and use that money. $350 billion, which is all in European banks in Euros. It's one of the reasons that the gold has kind of been on fire in the last couple of weeks. Caused a big run up in gold and then some profit taking as gold goes back and forth. But one of the reasons, underlying reasons, we told you, the European banks, excuse me, all the money center banks are starting to recalculate their asset mix and they're not including euros in that to a large extent because they're quite frankly worried about this stealing of the Russian people's assets by going to the European banks and it's all denominated in euros. So what President Trump is doing there, he told Zelensky on Friday, we're not going to give you Tomahawk missiles. It was a Big blow up. The President came out afterwards. I thought as a real gentleman said, hey, it's not as bad as has been reported, but you should understand some of those were kind of eyewitness accounts that eyewitness accounts of people in the room where voices were raised. And once again, I don't know why Zelensky is even coming close to raising his voice to the President, although he came over here thinking he was just going to get the Tomahawks. The Tomahawks proving they're devastating. Just asked the Persians. They had, I don't know, at least a third of their whole nuclear enrichment program taken out by the good old United States Navy. Navy submarines in the North Arabian Sea that launched and wiped out at least a third of that did damage, that the, the B2 bombers took care of the enclosed spaces in the caves. President Trump said total obliteration. Zelensky saw that and say, hey, I want me some of those Tomahawks. President Trump right there just going in and knowing the detail, this is the level of detail the President has. He says, hey, it's going to take him six months, it's going to take him six months to get there, six months to train them how to use them. And by this time the war is going to be over. The war is going to be over. And so President Trump right there saying, saying hey, no need to give them because I'm have this war. President Trump trying to negotiate that had great answers about Xi. Xi trying to horn in on this still. We're not putting the restrictions that shouldn't be lost on anybody that the Saudis are selling unlimited oil and gas to the, to the ccp. Iran, we're allowing Persians still sell sanctioned oil to them. The Russians are selling oil. If you want to cut down the CCP and cut them down to size and maybe stop them in the artificial intelligence race, cut off their oil. President Trump interceded and got the Indians to dramatically reduce their output. He was asked that question right there about XI and about XI trying to be a player in this war to extend it. I think President Trump said he didn't think so. Anyway, he's going to meet with Sheikh Scott Besson's over there right now. So we're going to get. Tomorrow's show is going to be absolutely in the morning. I can always tell you back to what Steve Robinson came on. What is it, Plantier? This guy was the second coming up in Maine before the 77 year old governor, current governor who smack talked President Trump in the White House about men and women's sports. She tried to stand up to President Trump. Of course, he ran the tables on her. She's announced she's running. She's announced she's running. And all of a sudden they want to offload this guy. They're leaking like crazy on him. This is why I said that there are military personnel that are training these radicals and training these paramilitary group, the Socialist Rifle association of Maine and the Socialist Rifle Association. This is a dangerous group and they're trading bad hombres, the Armed queers of Salt Lake City. I think that's how Steve Robinson got into the story, researching that. So you have some of those groups up in Maine also. This guy's a trainer for it. The buried lead in the story is that CNN went and what CNN put up was about using the term retard and other throwaway terms like that. They had access to this and refused to show it. Took Steve Robinson going to the exact same sites and pulling it down because it was all right there. Including photos of this Senate candidate on the, on the firing range training people. The Socialist Rifle association of Maine. And also he believes, you know, he's. He thinks this guy's paramount trains many paramilitary groups. One of the reasons that Antifa has been named designated a terrorist organization. People are looking into it because of these paramilitary training groups. People very worried about that. We're going to try to get Steve back on. We're going to be in Idaho, but this situation with Qatar and the Muslims going out to this, to this base to be trained. We've got. We're going to have. I'm going to start. I'm trying to get Adam run. Bunch of news coming out of Indiana. North Carolina Senate voted to redistrict and take that other seat. Indiana. As much time and effort we spent there, they're saying it's too hard. It's just too hard. We don't know if we can get it. Well, you got to get better and you got to get tougher. We're gonna get it, so might as well give it up now. That seaton, it's nine nothing in Indiana. Nine nothing. We don't want eight one. We want nine zero. I'm trying to get Adam Rent a politico. Maybe he's done some amazing reporting out there. This, this thing's going to be a, a fight in Indiana, but they're all going to be fights. Okay, stick around. Got another hour to go. Ben Harnwell is. Got an incredible show for you President just right there. Talked about. 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