Steve Bannon (2:18)

This is what made Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain was the. Was a young colonel at the time from Bowdoin College classics professor that was the head of the 20th Maine. He was absolutely. And the great thing about it, when you talk about the tip of the spear or the front, he was the anchor. They were the absolute last guys on the far left flank of the Union army. Correct.

Patrick K. O'Donnell (2:41)

They were told to hold at all costs, Steve. And their position was Tenuous. They were the far left, and. And they had to hold at all cost. And they, you know, they're assaulted four times by the 15th Alabama under William C. Oates, and they are nearly overrun. They're out of ammunition. They're taking the. They're taking ammunition from the dead. And it's here that the. The great counterattack, which is a bayonet charge, it's kind of a swinging door takes place, and they. They capture portions of the 15th Alabama and force them to retreat. One of the great inflection points, one of the great small unit actions in military history. Yeah, in American history.

Steve Bannon (3:24)

And the 15th Alabama, under, I think it was Colonel Oates. I mean, people. You have to go to get. You should definitely go and take the family. It's extra.

Mike Lindell (3:32)

He.

Steve Bannon (3:33)

They. Their.

Patrick K. O'Donnell (3:33)

Their.

Steve Bannon (3:34)

Their charge was uphill four separate times and refused. Refused to quit. And really against horrible terrain and just going straight uphill. That part of it is a steep incline. So. The bravery of the 15th Alabama was extraordinary, sir.

Patrick K. O'Donnell (3:50)

The 15th Alabama and the other elements of John Bell Hood's, you know, brigade were extraordinary this day, as well as those in the Union army. This was a hold at all cost and a take at all cost. This is one of the great inflection points in history. I touch upon this a little bit in the Unvanquished, which is out in trade paperback this week. It's there that Mosby plays a role indirectly of leading Jeff Stewart's Calvary corps on a long raid where they're exactly in the wrong place at the wrong time, where they could have been Lee's eyes and ears at Gettysburg.

Steve Bannon (4:29)

Yeah, Leland Vitter was in yesterday talking about his book, and we had that huge poster for the unvanquished and the war Room. And Leland turns and goes, that's my. That's my favorite. That's my favorite book. He goes, that's my favorite book. And starts pitching. Starts pitching. The Unvanquished. Okay, I got a bounce. Beautiful day. Everybody should go to Gettysburg if you get a chance. Any time of year is fantastic, but the fall is. Is. Is very special. It's really. It's almost like a painting of an American landscape. I don't want to give up any details, but I think our audience is praying that you're there for research. So I don't want to give up too many details. But, you know, we're all waiting your next books.

Patrick K. O'Donnell (5:12)

And you guys could follow me at combat Historian, where I'm covering a lot of different topics. And, you know, the war room is my Favorite place to be.

Steve Bannon (5:22)

Thank you, brother. Hopefully I'll see you on. I hopefully get you back and. And have you some of your film. On the 30th. We're doing the last 600 meters and some of that footage comes from Patrick Odata, who's embedded over in Fallujah.

Patrick K. O'Donnell (5:37)

I was with three one in the assault force at Fallujah and I wrote We Were One, which is on the commandant's reading list. And yeah, I participated in sense of giving some of Michael Peck some of that footage for the last 600 meters, which is a great, great film, A tremendous film. I remember watching it for the first time, you know, more. It was about a year after the battle and I started to tear up. It was emotional. It was an emotional experience to sort of relive Belia through that film a little bit.

Steve Bannon (6:12)

Patrick, one more time. Where can people go to get your books? I want everybody to go today if they got some time off and go check out and get one of your.

Patrick K. O'Donnell (6:18)

Books right at the front of the store at Barnes and Noble. Right at the front of the store at Barnes and Noble. They have a history table in the soft cover. Just came out this week. They're there. Amazon.com is a great place to go. And at Combat Historian, if you want to see all the reviews on the books and you know, those that have commented on them and everything else and there's excerpts, et cetera.

Steve Bannon (6:42)

Thank you, brother, from Gettysburg Live.

Patrick K. O'Donnell (6:44)

Thank you, sir.

Steve Bannon (6:45)

What a treat. So great that we. So great that we contacted. If you have a chance, make it on your must do list. To get to Gettysburg is extraordinary. And take a couple of days, takes that long to really understand, to begin to understand the battle. Although you can go back 100 times, as Patrick and myself have done, you learn more every time. Dave Walsh, we talked about people turning out to vote today. The importance of people turning out to vote today, particularly New Jersey. There's been a bunch of articles. The pressure, particularly coming from AI is going to these electric bills. I mean, give me a couple of minutes on this, because this is getting to be. This is going to be such an important topic. It is in the New Jersey race right now. But I got to tell you, in the midterms, this, in this whole affordability thing, the whole issue of energy, how we get industrial energy and how we get energy to consumers at a reasonable price and to pay for the sins of people that have. Have screwed this up in the past. Your thoughts, sir?

Dave Walsh (7:46)

Well, Steve, the electricity shortages in Maryland and New Jersey, specifically Northern Virginia, now Pennsylvania were caused by the tear down and shut down of coal plants. The cessation of building nuclear plants, the shuttering of nuclear plants and the attempt to replace them with wind and solar power and battery storage has not worked. Has created a huge shortage that's been step one of electricity costs going through the roof. And FERC needs to address that now here this week, Thursday, Chris Wright came out with a decree or a statement to FERC charging FERC to go ahead and come up with rulemakings by mid April 2026, April 30th, 26th, to allow access to large, large users to the, to the grid for fair, timely, orderly and non discriminatory access to the grid. Meaning of course data centers and large industrials who are reshoring which, which is great, but we've got, we've got some things to think about in this thing which complicates things. Industrials already benefit from massive discounting across the country. Cross ratepayers who are residential pay about 17 cents a kilowatt hour. Industrials pay nine and a half percent across the US so they already enjoy massive discounts and they enjoy to the extent they're able to build their own power plants, AI data centers, makers, tax benefits to write them all off in year one, basically so they have some key advantages over residential ratepayers to begin with. What we hope this turns into that FERC pushes very hard on its regions and NERC and the state utilities and the public service commissions to let AI and data center clients build their own capacity. Build their own capacity, take advantage of the makers depreciation. Remove restrictions that cause local builders of power plants to not be able to sell power into regulated grids. But for the utility being the buyer of it, remove those restrictions. Remove restrictions that cause the interconnect to be massively costly in a lot of states that are regulated and really prohibit independent power production in that way. Chris Wright did mention the enron case from 20 years ago, 25 years ago, promoting the good cause for independent power plant investment to occur in this country which has been in some states blocked by high, high tariffs for integrating independent power capacity that does compete with utilities to dismantle that to hopefully allow the AI and data center builders of power plants to take advantage of a deregulated situation where they can build them on an unrestricted basis, not face high tariffs for integrating into the grid nor restrictions to sell their power, say their business drops. They need to sell their power across their border of their facility into the grid. We want to Let them do that. That's good for more capacity in the system being created. So hopefully those kinds of things occur. What we really don't want as much of is them just plugging into the grid, taking advantage of the fact that then ratepayers wind up paying the $2.5 billion cost, 90% of it for a new power plant. So they can simply plug into the grid just like you and I do. If we move from home A to home B, it's not that simple. If they're causing thousand megawatt at a time in advanced capacity to be needed, they should pay their fair share for that, not just a small seven and a half percent because well, they're that small percentage of load. Plus they get this very large discount already as a major, major bulk user. That again across the country tends to be about a 70% discount compared to residential ratepayers. So this has to be carefully done. But good, good to be charging FERC to begin to take action on some rulemakings to free up more independent power production in this country by AI and data center, hopefully building their own generating capacity.

Patrick K. O'Donnell (11:58)

We hope.

Steve Bannon (11:59)

This is going to be huge in New Jersey. It's going to be a huge issue in the midterms. Dave, you're putting up great content all the time on social media. I want to make sure people get it absorbed and share it. Be a force multiplier in this because particularly about AI in the data centers and what's going to happen is going to be Central to the 26 midterm. Where do they go?

Dave Walsh (12:18)

Dave, you find me on the Dave Walsh Energy at Getter True Social and X. Thank you, Steve.

Steve Bannon (12:26)

Are you doing any talks? Is there any talks people can do you have a. Put up a calendar of where you're speaking? Because I've heard feedback, your speaking engagements are tremendous.

Dave Walsh (12:34)

Yeah, I've got two more in Florida, one south Florida, one in Pensacola in November. On the topic of the utility rate increases in Florida, which get right at this topic of, you know, we can have a situation where the utilities are feeding. I mean we cannot have a situation. Utilities are feeding the ratepayers, the residential ratepayers, expensive solar power, but yet turning around, giving data center and AI clients very cost effective gas fired. That's got to be equalized and made as Secretary Wright says, non discriminatory across all ratepayers.

Steve Bannon (13:12)

I see Dave Walsh, a potential governor of Florida. You heard it here first. Dave Walsh. Thank you brother. You saw, you saw the problem down there.

Dave Walsh (13:22)

You might be.

Steve Bannon (13:26)

Byron Donalds. I mean, after Byron. Donald, you're a young man. You're a young man after Governor Donald.

Dale Bigtree (13:30)

Thank you.

Steve Bannon (13:31)

Thank you. Mike Lindell. Pillows and sheets, brother. What do you got for me?

Mike Lindell (13:38)

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Steve Bannon (14:55)

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Patrick K. O'Donnell (16:22)

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Steve Bannon (16:22)

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Mike Lindell (16:25)

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Patrick K. O'Donnell (16:42)

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Dale Bigtree (16:42)

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Steve Bannon (16:44)

Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobi, and so many more. Download the Getter app now. Sign up for free and be part of the new pin. Mike, before you go, just remind people you were one of the targets of Arctic Frost. This is one of the reasons we got to support my pillow. Give me 30 seconds on that.

Mike Lindell (17:02)

Yeah, you guys, Arctic Frost, they came after my pillow. It's listed on the 92. MyPillow, MyPillows, Banks. Remember everybody when I was debanked, but also they went after my vendors and said, do not do business with my pillow. This is disgusting. Merrick Garland and Christopher Wraith. Now, your president just came out yesterday, said, hey, we have documents showing that they ordered this or they were behind this. Irs, FBI, doj, everything attacking my pillow on top of all the machine companies and lawfare against my pillow. And it's because of all of you out there. We've been able to get through in our faith in God getting us through. But also the war room posse. Remember to keep using that promo code. War room. Biggest sale ever today. It ends today, you guys. Everyone's been saying, how can we support you, Mike? This would be the best way to do it today. And I want to thank your audience, Steve.

Steve Bannon (17:55)

Yeah. MyPellet.com promo code, Warren. Most powerful promo code in the business and one of the great companies in our movements. Mike, thanks. I'll talk to you later today and see you back here on Monday.

Mike Lindell (18:06)

Thanks, Steve.

Steve Bannon (18:07)

Mike Lindell, a warrior. Got another great warrior that's about to join us. Let's go. We got a cold open for him. Let's go and play it. We are now the sickest country in the world.

Dale Bigtree (18:16)

It is now believed that over 54% of our kids have a permanent color chronic disease. Shouldn't we look closest at the one product designed to alter our immune system for life? There'd be one easy study to rule it out. The vaccinated versus unvaccinated study.

Steve Bannon (18:32)

As fate would have it, Dell met Marcus Servos.

Dale Bigtree (18:35)

He agreed to do a vaxed versus unvaxed study.

Dave Walsh (18:38)

Kids that are vaccinated.

Steve Bannon (18:40)

It doesn't look so good.

Dale Bigtree (18:41)

4.47 times the amount.

Steve Bannon (18:43)

5 1/2 times risk, 6 times increase. Amongst the unvaccinated group, there were zero. Like, if this is true, this is devastating.

Dale Bigtree (18:52)

It needs to be published.

Steve Bannon (18:53)

This is information the public should have had in 2020.

Dale Bigtree (18:56)

And I forced the issue to see how Ford responded. They said this report was not published because it did not meet the rigorous scientific standards we demand as a premier medical research institution. They have forced our hand. We're going to have to show them the footage. I'm gonna bring hidden cameras and recording equipment so that no matter what happens at this dinner, I can prove it happened. What do you think about the study you guys have done?

Patrick K. O'Donnell (19:26)

Well, I think it's a good study, but it does have limitations.

Dale Bigtree (19:29)

Do you find any flaws in the study? I mean, is it a way they can do the study better?

Patrick K. O'Donnell (19:33)

Not at all.

Steve Bannon (19:34)

I put it out just how it is. I don't want to say it's not.

Patrick K. O'Donnell (19:36)

The right producer, right thing to do, but the.

Dale Bigtree (19:39)

I just don't wanna.

Steve Bannon (19:40)

Somebody's gonna come back and they're gonna.

Dave Walsh (19:42)

Say, you know, the study was.

Patrick K. O'Donnell (19:44)

The study is flawed.

Steve Bannon (19:45)

The unpublished Henry Ford analysis is fundamentally flawed.

Patrick K. O'Donnell (19:49)

How about looking at this as important.

Steve Bannon (19:52)

Scientific information that can inform how the.

Patrick K. O'Donnell (19:54)

Department study should be done won't be taken like that. And then why? Because there's a political agenda to it.

Dale Bigtree (20:00)

Is what your studies show, is it important?

Steve Bannon (20:07)

Yeah, it is important. I'm just acting. I'm not going to do it.

Dale Bigtree (20:10)

If I can't get the study out, then what hope is there for every kid in the future? I said to you, if you do this study, you're going to come under fire. You said, I don't care about that. I'm all about the data and I'm about to retire anyway. That's literally what you said.

Patrick K. O'Donnell (20:23)

Yeah.

Dale Bigtree (20:24)

So your energy has definitely changed on that. But energy's changing.

Steve Bannon (20:27)

Publishing something like, might as well retire. I'd be finished.

Dale Bigtree (20:33)

This is an inconvenient study for the entire vaccine agenda.

Steve Bannon (20:41)

Dale Bigtree now joins. Dale, you've been the tip of the tip of the Spear of the Make America Healthy Again movement. You're one of the founders of it, one of the leaders of it. Now it looks like James O' Keefe meets 60 Minutes. What is inconvenient study? And how. How can people go see this circus?

Philip Patrick (20:57)

It's.

Steve Bannon (20:57)

It kind of blew me away.

Patrick K. O'Donnell (20:59)

It's.

Dale Bigtree (20:59)

It's available immediately for free@an inconveniencestudy.com. we've also got the study there for anyone that wants to read it, and we're publishing all the attacks on the study and rebutting the attacks on the study. Because I believe in the scientific method. I think that's what's launching right here, right now, with the study, with the movement. I do want to tip my hat to James o'. Keefe. That is not my usual style. In fact, I think it's the only time I. I've really ever taken hidden cameras. But it was important. You know, I challenged Dr. Zervos in 2016. If vaccines are so great, prove me wrong. Do a study comparing the vaccinated to the unvaccinated. This has always been the holy grail of the medical freedom movement. Why won't the CDC do this study? Why won't England do this? Why is no one comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated? So when I asked him at a dinner, someone introduced US back in 2016, we, would you do this study to prove us wrong? He said, yeah, I would do that study. So he ended up doing that study. And I had only one rule, whatever the outcome. And I know. He told me how biased he is. He loves vaccines. He even brags. I'm the reason everyone at Henry Ford Health is forcibly vaccinated with every vaccine. And so when he did the study, I just said one rule. No matter what you find, you publish it. So when he finished the study and then refused to publish it, I knew something was up. And I wanted to know why. And I was only gonna. And I just thought, if this study has what I think it has in it, then this is the fate of our species that we're talking about. I can't just let that ride. So I did. I took hidden cameras. I went and had dinner. And it's what makes the film so unique. It's not just what this study says. It's also a brilliant in, you know, investigation into something I know you're really deep into, which is human motivation. Why is this guy so afraid?

Mike Lindell (22:45)

Why.

Dale Bigtree (22:46)

Why is he not courageous? He's looking at some of those horrifying data that we've Ever seen? The ultimate conclusion of the study is you are 2.5 times more likely to have a chronic disease if you've been vaccinated compared to if you have not, meaning you're going to be sick your whole life. 250% increased risk of that happening. Other huge stats, six times the rate of neurodevelopmental disorders amongst the vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated. Four times the rate of asthma, nearly six times the rate of autoimmune disease. It mean I, they, you know, Steve, like the rest of us, Henry Ford sent me a cease and desist letter. They are threatening to bring a defamation suit because they're saying that, you know, my point and you know, what we show you in the film is we believe this study was only not published because of these horrifying results. They're saying that's defamation, that the only reason that it's not being published is because it's not a good study and it doesn't meet the scientific record rigors that they demand. And that's exactly why I took hidden cameras. I had a feeling they would do that. And their head of infectious disease, their top scientist, world renowned scientists, is saying, as you just saw, this is a good study, it's an important study. I'm just not going to publish it because I'll lose my career. And that's the problem with this culture we live in, Steve. We live in a culture like we're in the dark ages here. We're still locking Galileo in his house for, you know, saying that the Earth is the center of the universe. This is important research, science. If vaccines are making our kids sicker and not healthier, then our government's got to stop forcing us to take these things. We got to stop making kids take these before they go to school. Something's got to change. And so, you know, that's what this film is about. I think it's the biggest thing I've done since I made Vaxxed, which obviously, you know, sort of threw me into the MAHA movement, which is originally, you know, the vaccine risk awareness movement. But this is important information. There's, and I want to make it clear, there's been about four or five other vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies that have been done. They've all shown the exact same thing, that the vaccinated are just far sicker. But those studies have been torn apart by mainstream science saying, well, that's not a major institution, or that was a homeschool study, or the scientist that did it had a bias. He was on vac. You know, he's an anti vaxxer. That's why this study was so important. This was done by a major research institution, done by a pro vaccine scientist. Done to prove us wrong. It's one of the biggest. We've seen nearly 20,000 kids, like almost 18,500 kids are in the study. 2,000 of them unvaccinated, tracked for up to five years. We've never seen a study like this. We've never seen one done to prove the anti vaxxers wrong. And what did it do? It did the exact opposite. Is one of the most damning studies you will ever see. The vaccine program. And so if pro vaxxers at major institutions are coming up with the same results as the anti vaxxers, Houston, we have a problem.

Steve Bannon (25:48)

Dale, I want everybody see where do people go right now to see this over the weekend? I want to have you back on. I want to break this thing down like a football film. Because if it was not for Dale Big Tree and his courage, we wouldn't have any of the Pfizer information. We wouldn't know anything about the COVID thing. That was Bigtree and his team going out. I'm telling you, this guy has got so much Kurt. No, come on, man. You, you, you take on the impossible. I want everybody the weekend to get this from where they go. Dale, to get it. And then we'll bring you back Monday, Tuesday to break it down for us.

Dale Bigtree (26:16)

I love that. And inconveniencestudy.com and inconveniencestudy.com you can click on it right now and watch the whole thing for free. It's getting rave reviews. I think it's got like over nearly 90% positive review reviews across the Internet and then the other 10% are trying to slit our throats. And that's how this game is played. We love it, but you got it. Huge debate going on, but anyone can watch it. You can check out the study, all the information there. And inconveniencestudy.com okay, Mo Grace, push it out hard.

Steve Bannon (26:49)

Let's be force multipliers. We'll have Dell back on Monday or Tuesday. Brother, you're a hero and a patriot. Thank you sir for coming on here today. An inconvenient study. Dale Bigtree. We wouldn't know anything about the Pfizer information. It's going to be locked away for 75 years until Dale Bigtree got to work. And we got it. Trevor Comstock. We got about 60 seconds. Philip Patrick's going to join me here, talk about gold and capital markets in China and everything, Russia, all of it. What do you got for us? You're the company of the Make America Healthy Again movement. What do you got?

Dave Walsh (27:21)

Yeah, I'll make it quick.

Steve Bannon (27:22)

Thank you for having me.

Dave Walsh (27:23)

So I really just wanted to come on today to say thank you, obviously to you, Steve and the war room posse, specifically. You guys have been extremely instrumental in our early success. You know, we only started about a year and a half ago, but we've.

Steve Bannon (27:36)

You know, grown quite a bit primarily because of you.

Dave Walsh (27:39)

So it is also my birthday today.

Steve Bannon (27:41)

I don't want to make it about.

Dave Walsh (27:42)

Me, but I just wanted to run some sort of a discount or a special. So if you use code October, yes. At checkout, you can get 20% off.

Steve Bannon (27:50)

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Philip Patrick (29:18)

Yes, they did.

Steve Bannon (29:19)

Oh, that didn't sound good. It's not a good sign. Usually gold goes up. It's good if you're decorating the White House. Gold goes up when you're worried about the value of the dollar going down. That's the equation. What has the dollar done? But people go to gold when they are scared, right? Yes. It's so crazy.

Dale Bigtree (29:50)

Gold.

Steve Bannon (29:50)

I mean, it's so, I mean, what.

Patrick K. O'Donnell (29:52)

Are you going to do with gold?

Dale Bigtree (29:53)

Right?

Steve Bannon (29:53)

Walk around with a bar and hit somebody over the head and then we sleep?

Patrick K. O'Donnell (29:57)

No.

Steve Bannon (29:57)

And also, like, I mean, I think I have some gold in my portfolio. I don't actually have it in my right. It just says it's still something just right on the Right. It's still digital, right?

Mike Lindell (30:06)

Yeah.

Philip Patrick (30:06)

Right.

Mike Lindell (30:07)

It's still like I own gold.

Steve Bannon (30:08)

Okay, but are you a, are you a bitcoiner? Because people say that's digital gold. I understand. I'm in the Warren Buffett camp of you'd bet you'd be much happier owning, you know, a little piece of, of.

Philip Patrick (30:18)

Of land that, that you could farm because it actually produces something whereas you own gold.

Steve Bannon (30:23)

I, I have a little piece of land and I'll tell you what I produce. I'm going to have some right after the show. Yeah.

Dave Walsh (30:33)

Yeah.

Steve Bannon (30:36)

I, I am. Okay. Welcome back. When it's part of the, when it's part of the Bill Maher show, that means because Bill Maher, what he they do, I've been on the show a number of times. They want to get those political topics or topics of economics when they deal with it that are in the popular, in the popular mind or out there in the conversation. And now, as you know, Philip Patrick, the run gold had or you know, it's retreating a little bit. But the run goal has had now has everybody talking about it. Right. Including Bill Maher and Andrew Ross Sorkin. I want to, I want to address a couple things first, because you have called a number of shots here that are underlying the kind of basic things of deals throughout the world was the Argentine, Argentina peso or the stealing of the Russian people's assets. But how should people think today? Are they too late to this? The price swings now over the last week have been pretty substantial. So what is your current thinking on particularly people maybe own it or thinking adding more to it for their retirement or those that have been listening to the war room for a couple of years and say, hey, look, I didn't get in when Philip Patrick started coming on Abandoned. I didn't get the end of the dollar empire. I missed at 1100. And now, you know, I'm concerned that maybe I missed the entire thing. And so should I sit this out? What, what, what is your, what's your best thoughts, sir?

Philip Patrick (32:13)

Yeah, no, I don't think we've missed the boat at all. You know, Jamie Dimon came out a few days ago, said in this climate, gold could easily hit five to $10,000 an ounce. JP Morgan have upped their prediction long term on Gold to $8,000. Shorter term UBS say 5,000. So banks around the world are massively upping their predictions on gold. Let's talk a little bit about the dip, right? We saw two days of decline on the back of 55% growth in gold this year. For somebody like me those dips are welcome. Anything that goes up and up and up in a straight line starts to get a little bit concerning. So we saw a little bit of dollar strengthening I think on the back of a China deal which dipped gold's prices. We saw profit taking which always happens when you see a massive run like this. What's interesting though is a lot of this was washed out of the paper markets. It was gold funds, not physical ownership. What we're seeing now through COMEX is they are on record to deliver more physical gold this month than any other time in history. More than Covid, more than the great financial crisis. But what I would say in general is this. Gold doesn't run 55% in a year, but it is today. And for me that is a sign of a structural shift happening around the globe, right? We've talked about this. Go back to 1980, gold was 70% of global reserve. Today even with all the increase this massive central bank gold buying it constitutes 20% of global reserv curve. I think what we are seeing is a shift back, right? This idea, this, this belief since the 80s really that government debt was risk free. It has been shattered around the globe. Western countries now global debt to GDP levels average 110%. And I think there is a realization around the globe this isn't going to last long term. There is a big debt crisis coming and gold is how you insulate. So I think it's a case that gold has been massively undervalued for the last 30 years and today is being repriced to reality. So for that reason I think we've got a lot of scope for growth. Let's not forget the velocity of central bank gold buying is increasing in this climate, not slowing down. So they are buying at current levels with the belief that prices will rise.

Steve Bannon (34:51)

I did the Economist, the new television show they had it did I think on Tuesday, got put up yesterday and one of the things I did is I held up the COVID of this week's Economists where they had the coming debt emergency and I opened up and said hey I'm glad you guys caught up with the worm. We've been talking about this for the last couple of years. And they said listen, it's, you know, we know your show follows us and we've been, they didn't say late to the party but now they actually said it's a coming dead emergency. One of the things they talked about is they had, they had a lot of great articles in there. One of the articles walked through every way we could get our way out of this, every way possible that exists to get your, to get the countries of the world out of this. And they said look, it's either one, you have to have massive cuts in spending like France. And I said you have to have bring these deficits down. So massive cuts in spending. Number two, you have to have massive productivity increases in GDP growth significantly north of the 3.54% that the big beautiful bill and the supply side tax cut of Besson and Trump are trying to get us. They said that's one way to keep ahead of the deficit increases. But to actually tackle the debt problem you have to have that number three, you could have massive tax increases, particularly on the wealthy. So those are three that are within the governments and ability of people to take action. Not that any one of those will happen because of some of the issues, you know, in politics and with the wealthy controlling so much of the political process. Then the next two, and they say, and this is kind of the larger order they come, the next one is defaults and they mean sovereign debt, not just default on corporate debt and personal debt. And they're talking about sovereign debt defaults. They said, oh it's clearly, you do the analysis that's clearly coming. And then the last is inflation which they think the, the people who control the system are just going to try to inflate their way out of this which will leave them with the least damage and of course the little guy with the most damage. And so when you sit there and think of that and add to your called shot, you were on the show I think now a month ago and you talked about that difference in the asset mix. Number one thing you said is that hey, government securities, including U.S. government securities are not near the top of it. They're moving it back a gold. And when you see the Economist magazine is sitting there going sovereign debt defaults are coming. And even we talked about the inability of Britain and France right now really to sell 30 year government bonds because people don't know who's going to be in charge in 30 years. You add to that, you're called shot. And this is the headline just from the other day. In the Europe's rallies to Zelensky's after tussle with Trump after his Friday meeting. But the sub headline EU seeks deal on frozen Russian assets. And at your point that their deal is they don't have any money to put into Zelensky to give Zelensky to fight the Russians, so they're simply not going to take loans anymore, they're just going to take the Russian people's assets. And that gets to your point of the second part, which is not only do they not want to hold government securities, the EU as a potential reserve currency, or the EU as a, the euro as even something in the makeup, they're fleeing from that because they understand that this is going to, to crush the eu, the euro because of, because this unprecedented, you know, it's all held in Euros. And the unprecedented nature of stealing another country's assets to then monetize their enemies to actually throw long range weapons back, back at them. So are the structural issues that are still among us, that's only getting worse. I also want to go to the ftse. You know, there's a lot of controversy in MAGA on our side of the football about Secretary Bezant doing a 20 billion or maybe $40 billion bailout of the peso. Right. So now you have currencies throughout the world and Argentina is a, you know, a major country that you see currency collapse. So how does that all tie together for what we call the structural issues related to kind of new gold? How people and particularly central banks and money center banks think of gold as an asset?

Philip Patrick (39:07)

Look, I think the writing's on the wall, right? And I think the only way to get out of this is to inflate our way out of it. And I think there's a realization of that around the globe. There isn't a better currency than the dollar today, right. If there was, we would be flocking from the dollar to the Chinese yuan or whatever it might be. But this is a systemic issue across the west and across the globe. And gold is always the safe haven. How do we get out of it? It's not going to be austerity, it's not going to be paying down the debt. Look at every situation since 1913, it's been default that has been most common. I think Canada was the only example since the early 1900s that successfully deployed austerity to get out of a debt issue. Growth is problematic as well, Right? It helped after World War I, but there was demographic and productivity tailwinds back then that just don't exist today. But even things like rapid productivity gains. Think about AI, for example, probably can't save budgets, right? Higher productivity tends to lift wages and interest rates together because lenders demand higher yields on debt when the economy looks hot. In other words, with debt levels this high, good news becomes bad math. Essentially, prosperity itself can accelerate a debt spiral. So when we put all the pieces together, we start to see the picture. We can't borrow cheaply anymore, we can't pay it back honestly, and we can't grow fast enough to escape it. That is checkmate. And I think gold ultimately is the solution. And look, I talk to clients a lot about our position, right? We got a world running away from our debt. So demand for the dollar is waning. At the time we have a $37 trillion debt pile. We're going out to the world every single day asking them to loan us money and they're commanding higher interest rates. And what I say to my clients is, look, it's common sense, right? If I'm asking you for a loan, you say, let me look at your books, right? And I'm spending 50% more than I bring in every single year. You're either not going to lend me the money anymore or you're going to demand higher interest rates to do it. Now this is where the analogy falls short. But imagine I'm printing money to pay back the loan and in the process devaluing every penny in your savings account. Then I'm threatening to seize your savings account, give it to your worst enemy to throw eggs at your house. It doesn't make sense anymore. It is a fiscal basket case. That's the position we're in. And I think there's only one way out of it. And the world is realized. And I think the reversion to gold or the move back to gold is the solution.

Steve Bannon (41:55)

And talk to me about before I'm going to hold you into the next break. But the balance sheets, you're saying back in the, in the, I guess in the 19th century, the central banks or money center banks, asset mix was 70% gold. We're only at 20% now. As much as, as you've had, what, two years of record buying, you're only at 20% today?

Philip Patrick (42:18)

Yeah, three and a half years. 22, 20 started straight after Biden weaponized against, against Russia. 22, 23, 24, first half of 25. We're waiting for third quarter numbers, but the first half of this year was the biggest six month period in history. Even with three and a half years of consecutive record setting gold buying by central banks. Today it's 20% of global reserve. We have a long way to go. I mentioned before on your show they survey central banks every year. 73% of them said they would be reducing dollar holdings and increasing gold holdings. The trajectory is clear.

Steve Bannon (42:58)

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Philip Patrick (46:10)

Yeah, the paper gold markets, a lot of the trading we see the day to day swings, the profit taking that comes out of the ETF or paper markets. But we're seeing consistent increases in demand for physical. As I mentioned, Comex is on record to deliver more physical gold this month than any other time in history. And we've seen a couple of those records set this year already. Ultimately these moves look like there's a divergence now between claims on gold and physical gold ownership. And we see this at other times. When Covid hit in 2020, huge demand for physical metals saw spot prices or prices on physical diverge significantly from paper markets. And we're starting to see that again today. But demand for physical has been increasing consistently driven by central banks but also institutional. And now we're starting to see a pickup in retail as well. So physical market demand is increasing over time and time and time again in this climate.

Steve Bannon (47:14)

A great way to set a floor is by that demand for physical gold. How do people. Because now it's not hand holding but I think now particularly people that have been in and want to say hey, do I increase my holdings? Are those are sitting there? Because you have two folks, groups of folks right now. Those I think have been in for a while and came on board early on and have had a huge run up. And their question is do I take some profits or do I add to this for my retirement, my savings? Others are a lot of people, I meet them all the time. Did I miss this? Did I miss this move? And you know, I just gotta wait or maybe I just missed it. I want to tell people how do they get to Birch Gold and then how do they communicate with your team?

Philip Patrick (47:54)

Well first of all, when people ask me that question, I steal your line and say look, you need to look at what's driving gold? It's the process, not the price. So thank you for that one. In terms of, look, I encourage everybody to just reach out. It's birchgold.com forward/bannon, and get the information. Because like I said, with, with knowledge comes power and understanding. And I think just reading through that information, they can answer their own questions. You haven't missed the boat. We've got a lot of scope for movement in gold. Like I said, we're seeing a change happening globally. Money is nothing but commoditized trust. And the more fractured the world is, the less trust there is and the stronger gold becomes. That's the climate we're in. And I think we're going to continue to see it run up. So I encourage everybody to get the information, speak with us, will talk you through the how, the why, and then they'll make their decisions. But I'll say this, Steve, people are. People are really starting to listen. We're getting a lot of people calling in saying, look, you know, we've been looking at this for a while. We're seeing it move, and I think now's the time. So just make the call, get the information, and, you know, you'll go from that.

Steve Bannon (49:06)

This is why I think now more than ever, you can't do this blindly. What we want to do is we're not here to like, sell your fish. We're here to teach you how to fish. And I think that's very important. I get feedback all the time when I go around of people that have gotten into gold and they get into it with a level of confidence that they understand what they're doing right. They understand some of the forces, the massive forces at work here, and particularly the forces of work that have changed gold from just being a hedge, which has been a 5000 years of man's recorded history against times of geopolitical uncertainty or financial turbulence, to something quite different. And that's, I think, the change we've seen over the last six months or so, that's now starting to materialize. Philip, where do people go to get you on social media? I know you're putting up a lot of material and you got a Birchgold site that has news articles, all that. Where do people go for all that?

Philip Patrick (49:57)

Of course. So they. So, you know, birchgold.com forward/bannon. That'll get into the site, access to information, and they can reach me at Philip Patrick on Getter again. Philippatrick on Getter.

Steve Bannon (50:12)

Thank you for taking your weekend time to join us, sir. Always Appreciate you here on Saturday Morning, my favorite show of the week.

Philip Patrick (50:18)

My pleasure. Thank you for having me. Cheers.

Steve Bannon (50:20)

Steve, what a great phrase. Commoditized trust right now. Not a lot of trust in the world. President Trump is trying to bring to an end. It is the third World War. It's both the kinetic part of it and now the economic warfare part of it. You know, as he heads to Asia to, and gets arrives to Asia to make sure that he can take, you know, on really, I think, and we think here in the world, the most challenging part, which is the economic warfare brought by the Chinese Communist Party, the most murderous dictatorship in America's history, in the world's history. And this is why we have been a strong advocate of decoupling. People say, well that's so you can't do that. So yes, you can do it. It's not immutable law of nature that these two economies have to be hardwired in. We gave them the chance back in 2019, President Trump did after two years of negotiation, they ripped, they ripped a lighthizer deal up before signing to it and agreeing to it and spit in his face. So President Trump seen how they negotiate before. And this is going to be an intense week. All week long we're going to be doing drill downs on the war that we are in, both the kinetic part in the Ukrainian and the Bloodlands, that part of the Eurasian landmass, and the intense negotiations President Trump's going to have to try to bring peace to the economic warfare that the Chinese Communist Party has unleashed on the United States of America. And oh, by the way, as we pivot back to hemispheric defense, a kinetic situation in Venezuela and an economic situation in Argentina and Brazil. So we're going to cover it all and what it means for you and what it means for the United States, what it means for maga, what it means for our movement, the economy, all of it. In the war room, we're going to leave you with the right stuff. A book, a movie and a score from a film that epitomizes the great enlargedness and scale of the American spirit. Tom Wolf's the Book, Philip Coffins, the director of the classic film and Bill Conti is the composer. We're gonna be up on Getter all weekend and we will see you back here Monday morning at 10:00am Eastern Daylight Time when you will be back in the war room. When you're buried in credit card and loan debt, it's only human nature to put it off and say, hey, I'll deal with this later if that's you. Here's a hidden fact the debt strategy experts at Done With Debt shared with me. They discovered a little known strategy that works in your favor to dramatically reduce or even erase your debt altogether. They aggressively engage everyone you owe money to in September and here's why. They know which lenders and credit card companies are doing year end accounting and need to cut deals. They even know which ones have year end audits and need to get your debt off the books quickly. That means you need to get started with Done With Debt now. Done With Debt accomplishes this without bankruptcy or new loans. In fact, most clients end up with more money in their pocket the first month. Get started now while you still have time. Go to donewithdet.com and talk with one of their specialists for free. Donewithdebt.com donewithdebt.com Take advantage of this. These people are aggressive, they're smart and they're tough. You want them on your side. Donewithdebt.com.