Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room, Episode 4880: The Fall Of New York; Deport Mamdani
Date: October 27, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guests/Contributors: Donald Trump, Naomi Wolf, Political Analysts, Foreign Policy Experts
Overview
This episode focuses on two core themes: the growing controversy and political consequences surrounding Trump’s possible third-term ambitions, and the looming election of a self-declared "Marxist jihadist" in New York City, Zohran Mamdani. Through analysis, combative rhetoric, and insider perspectives, Bannon and guests discuss the constitutional crisis, the transformation of urban American politics via immigration and radical activism, and wider implications for U.S. domestic and foreign policy.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Trump’s Third-Term Ambitions and Constitutional Challenge
(00:00 – 05:55)
- Bannon predicts: "Trump is going to be president in 28, and people just ought to get accommodated with that." (00:00)
- Discussion centers on the 22nd Amendment prohibition against a third presidential term.
- Political Analyst: Warns of “a real legal showdown” if Trump attempts to run again; courts would play a decisive role (00:11).
- Trump, asked directly, is coy: “I haven’t really thought about it... I have my best poll numbers... I’m not ruling it out.” (01:29, 02:25)
- Talk of alternative strategies, like Trump running as Vice President, is dismissed by Trump as “too cute. I would rule that out because it’s too cute. I think the people wouldn’t like that.” (03:14–03:17)
- Skepticism among panelists about whether this is strategic distraction from Bannon, or a serious attempt to test constitutional limits: “Steve Bannon is running an angle... It’s a possibility, and we should take that possibility seriously.” (03:32–05:55)
2. U.S. Foreign Policy – Trump’s Global Tour & Priorities
(05:55 – 14:59)
- Trump's current visit to Asia considered "a stunning success"; meetings with Japanese and South Korean leaders, and potential for a Trump-Xi summit.
- Steve Bannon: Critiques “globalists” who offshored U.S. industrial capacity, especially rare earth processing to China (“knife to our throat”) (08:10, 08:42).
- The China-U.S. relationship is highlighted as a “mortal enemy” scenario, requiring careful interim cooperation but inevitable decoupling.
- Discussion on strategic moves in South America – including support for Argentina’s president and efforts to block Chinese influence (“Monroe Doctrine 2.0”) (13:36 – 14:59).
- Foreign Policy Expert: Laments rising isolationism in U.S. politics, stresses need for democracy promotion and multilateralism:
“These isolationist tendencies in our country scare me. Reminds me of the 1930s. That’s a disaster.” (05:55-07:34)
3. Domestic Threats & The ‘Fall’ of New York
(16:22 – 27:38)
- Bannon frames the crisis: The growing influence and rising electoral prospects of "Marxist jihadist" Zohran Mamdani in New York City signal a tipping point for urban America.
- Strong anti-immigrant rhetoric – Bannon claims “all these illegal invaders” must be removed via “mass deportation.” (20:17)
- Demands for denaturalization and deportation of Mamdani, alleging “his citizenship’s totally illegal” and calling him a “Marxist jihadist” (22:30).
- Push for laws against dual citizenship in Congress, with argument that it causes “dual loyalties”:
“There should be no dual citizenship in the United States of America. You have to pledge allegiance to one nation.” (23:09)
- Claims that foreign-born voters in big cities are driving radical political change:
“Once they seize control... you're gonna have to take a trenching tool and get them out.” (21:36)
- Predicts further polarization with cities drifting “far, far, far worse” than mere sanctuary-city status and becoming “neo-Confederate operations.” (27:38)
4. The Mamdani Phenomenon: Political Ground Game and Generational Change
(29:30 – 42:56)
- Bannon & Naomi Wolf: Examine the populist, activist, and Marxist roots of the Mamdani campaign.
- Wolf questions polling accuracy, emphasizes “ground game”—turnout of low-propensity voters is decisive:
“Modern politics... is all about ground game. It’s about turning out low propensity voters.” (Bannon, 32:19)
- Wolf sharply criticizes NYC GOP inaction:
“I've never seen a worse bunch of passive cowards... the Republicans who have abandoned the fight, even if it's a tough one in New York City.” (34:09)
- Both agree the right’s only chance would have been an aggressive, unconventional campaign, including legal challenges to Mamdani’s citizenship.
- Wolf articulates broader “Green Red Revolution” thesis: Western elites have shifted from using Big Tech to weaponizing “extremist Islam” to destabilize nations.
“The globalists are using extremist Islam... to tenderize and destroy the West. And they’re doing it in a very, very, very, very systematic and targeted way.” (37:53)
- Discussion of Mamdani’s focus on affordability for young, disaffected voters, who feel “propagandized” and alienated.
- Bannon presses:
“He’s Sadiq Khan on steroids... As bad as Cuomo is, Adams and Sliwa never had a shot... So talk to us about Mamdani. Particularly, he's Sadiq Khan on steroids. What's gonna happen when you have a Marxist jihadist?” (35:20, 36:53)
5. Economic Messaging and the U.S. Narrative
(46:10 – 51:54)
- Wolf compares Mamdani’s tactics (“a chicken in every pot”) to historical tyrants, but notes that NYC mayors lack real power to deliver on such promises.
- Warns that Republicans and Trump must do better in connecting his foreign policy “peace deals” back to voters’ pocketbook issues:
“He needs someone very forceful... at home to highlight the economic benefits, highlight—have eggs gone down, has gas gone down?” (47:30)
- Bannon agrees:
“‘You can show the connections... you just have to take the time. You have to do it every day.’” (48:44)
- Wolf suggests Trump’s team (name-drops Monica Crowley) should "run the victory lap" at home, making Americans feel “first among equals” and restored pride in world leadership (49:00–51:54).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- Bannon (on Trump 2028):
“Trump is going to be president in 28, and people just ought to get accommodated with that.” (00:00) - Trump (on third term):
“I have my best poll numbers I've ever had ... I'm not ruling it out.” (02:25) - Trump (on VP run):
“It's too cute. I would rule that out because it's too cute. I think the people wouldn't like that. It's too cute.” (03:16) - Naomi Wolf (on globalist tactics):
“The globalists are using extremist Islam... to tenderize and destroy the West." (37:53) - Bannon (on Mamdani):
“He's a Marxist jihadist... These guys are Bolshevik jihadists. Think of that combo platter.” (21:36) - Naomi Wolf (on NYC Republicans):
“I've never seen a worse bunch of passive cowards... the Republicans who have abandoned the fight, even if it's a tough one in New York City.” (34:09)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- Trump third term/constitutional challenge: 00:00–05:55
- Foreign policy focus: 05:55–14:59
- Bannon’s attack on NYC politics, Mamdani, and immigration: 16:22–29:30
- The “Green Red Revolution” and NYC ground game: 29:30–42:56
- Economic populism and narrative critique: 46:10–51:54
Overall Tone & Implications
The episode is highly polemical, with Bannon and Wolf blending segments of strategic insight and populist alarmism. While there are factual discussions on constitutional law, electoral mechanics, and global power shifts, much of the commentary is loaded with suspicion, aggressive language, and dire warnings about radical transformation and the “destruction” of the American way of life via immigration, electoral insurgency, and elite conspiracy. The episode closes by advising the audience to stay vigilant, with Bannon promising continued coverage as events unfold.
