Steve Bannon (3:05)

Cost him going the great unmasking all those TikTok videos and all those times Kenny smiling. He's a nice guy. He's so Friendly, you know, he's going to fight anti Semitism. He's going to do this, he's going to do that. You saw the real thing last night? I don't know. You ever read the history of Vienna or Constantinople or any of it? Once they get inside the gate, the crusader state of Jerusalem, right? Once they get inside the gate, man, they ain't so happy. They're telling you what to do. They're going to tell you what they're going to do. That's the real Mondami you saw last night. He used the microphone as a weapon and good on him. Let's unmask right now and challenge right there. Challenge the president of these United States and any populist, nationalist, MAGA folks that follow him. Josh Hawley, I would count you as one of those folks. What do you have to say to Mondama? He challenged you last night. Threw down right there on world television, sir.

Senator Josh Hawley (4:09)

Well, I would just say this. We see now what the Democrats response is to the crisis of the working class in our country, Steve. And their response is communism. Their response is state control, rule by the elite, rule by the rich. Because make no mistake, that's who Mondame actually represents. That's what he actually believes in. And it's also the destruction of Western civilization. This is a guy who does not believe in American history, American culture, American values. This is a guy who wants to tear it all down.

Steve Bannon (4:38)

Senator, Senator. Hang on, hang on, hang on. That speech last night, he was quoting. He was quoting from the Enlightenment. He was quoting Thomas Jefferson. He was quoting the greatest philosophers and thinkers. Emerson. Wasn't that. Did you miss that part of the speech, sir?

Senator Josh Hawley (4:52)

Yeah. This is his attempt to wrap himself in, I guess in the flag. I mean, I don't know that Emerson's really the flag, but I think we see through that.

Steve Bannon (5:01)

Well, no, he didn't. Hang on, hang on. He didn't. First off, he went to every third world country. I don't think he mentioned anything about the United States of America. This was. This guy unmasked what you're seeing right there. And Bill Ackman sent out a tweet. The billionaire to grovel in front of him. Hey, I'm so glad you won. And is there anything I can do to help you DM me here. This was as brutal a throwdown as you could ever have. And I appreciate the guy for not hiding it. He hid it so long with the TikTok videos. But this is a direct challenge not just to the president, but to the entire MAGA movement, sir.

Senator Josh Hawley (5:38)

Yeah, I agree with that. And I think the answer or the question rather is what are we going to do about it? What are populists who actually believe in this country, who believe in the history this country, who believe in our culture and our civilization, are we going to have an answer or are we just going to capitulate because we see what their answer is? Their answer is tear it all down and rebuild it on the foundation of secular atheistic communism. That's what he runs on. That's what he represents. And are we instead going to say, no, actually, we're going to get back to what we truly believe in in this country. This is a working class Christian country. Are we going to build on that foundation? That's the challenge, Stephen. We cannot be timid right now in this moment. We have to come forward and say there is one way forward. It is to return to the principles of the United States of America. No more half measures. But that is the challenge in front of us, I think, big time.

Steve Bannon (6:26)

Senator, this morning with the at the breakfast with the Senate now, what's going on? Because as you know, particularly about this, funding illegal alien health care has been the central point of the Schumer shutdown. But I notice a lot of folks are getting wobbly right now as the heat's getting turned up. Your thoughts?

Senator Josh Hawley (6:46)

Well, I think here's the big message that the president sent, which is that the Senate better be prepared to do something here and reopen the government and do it on our terms. That protects working people. That doesn't give health care to illegals, as you said, that doesn't turn over control of this government to illegals in the radical left. And if that means eliminating or changing the filibuster, then the Senate should be prepared to do that. And Steve, I have to tell you, I think he's right about that. I mean, I've been saying to these Democrats, if you think that you can just shut down the government, deny Donald Trump any ability to govern, he's the duly elected president of the United States. If you think you can take away food from 40 million Americans, take away the pay of our great military, take away the pay of our border patrol, if you think you can do that, and then you come to me, Democrats, and say, well, you just have to live with it. No, I don't. And if you think I'm going to side with some arcane Senate rule rather than siding with the people, you got it wrong. So I think we're on a collision course here. And unless The Democrats change course. If they put us to put me to the choice of people or the Senate rules, I'm choosing the people. And I want that to be loud and clear. I want people to understand that, including my Republican colleagues. They need to hear it. And I think that's the point the president made today.

Steve Bannon (7:54)

Can you do, can you actually change the filibuster just for one vote and go back to it? Because it has protected, particularly in those years that we were in the wilderness. It does protect you. It does give you at least a shield to be able to fight back. Is that pretty catastrophic for this situation? I mean, have you all you guys weighed and measured this?

Senator Josh Hawley (8:14)

Yeah, you can do. You can, you can change the filibuster in a lot of ways, Steve. And I would just say to the Democrats out there who now, after voting to do this multiple times, are now hyperventilating about it. Listen, if you want to prevent this, then reopen the government without health care to illegals. Stop the hostage taking. You know, in my state, they are holding hostage thousands of military men and women, thousands of agents, law enforcement agents, and thousands of people, needy people, needy working people who cannot eat. Stop the hostage taking. I mean, this is really. The Democrats have a choice to make here, but I think Republicans have got to be clear that we're just not going to capitulate and allow this to go on forever. And so to your question, yeah, there's different ways to change or reform the filibuster. You could do any number of things. You could make people actually hold the floor like they used to in the old days. You could change the vote threshold. You could say, we're going to carve it out for certain things and not for others. But I think the Democrats need to know that are we going to be the party of the people? Are we going to be the party of the Senate? And my view is we need to be the party of the people.

Steve Bannon (9:18)

From the Democrats perspective, because the illegal alien is under. The illegal alien issue is under everything. It's under about the census, the redistricting. It's about sending ICE into Portland. It's about the fight in Chicago. It's about everything is goes back to how they really have, how they really have a party. And if they look at the math last night, from New York City to New Jersey, the big urban areas in New Jersey, to the Commonwealth of Virginia, particularly Northern Virginia and the California on the redistricting, they're going to sit there and go, we can't give up the illegal aliens. That's the bedrock of our party. That in the visa scam. So what? Why would they do that? Why would they do that? To open up the government. They have no incentive to do that unless we really take this messaging and go up about nine levels. I just, I think from their perspective they're gonna say, hey, we just won. We won on illegal aliens and we won on, in, particularly in these, in these eastern states and in New York City with all these visa scams that have been around forever. Hellman Dami is here illegitimately. He's only been here six years, a citizen of Uganda. Why would they, why would they, why would they work with you guys at all? They're just gonna say screw you.

Senator Josh Hawley (10:29)

That's exactly what the President said this morning, Steve. He made exactly that point and he said, I think unless we get serious and show that we are serious about reopening this government, and not just that, but passing legislation like voter id, like voter integrity laws nationwide. You know, we ought to ban ballot harvesting nationwide. I've had a bill to do that for years. We ought to do that. President talked about that today. We ought to require national. We have it in Missouri, we ought to have it in every state of the Union. He talked about that today. Unless we get serious about passing some of this legislation, Steve, I think you're absolutely right. Democrats have made a bet, and they made it decades ago that they could flood the country with illegal immigrants and they could over time sort of wash those people through and get them registered as voters. And now as you know, in many states, liberal states, you can't even ask for an id. You can't check citizenship status, including in federal elections. That ought to be illegal because this is the Democrats long term strategy to never ever surrender power.

Steve Bannon (11:29)

As one of the President's biggest supporters and you're the fire breathing populace in the Senate, the pressure, you know, is going to come starting this afternoon by the donors and the moderates and the moderate, you know, conservative ink media, that MAGA's too hard, that MAGA's too tough, the MAGA's too unfeeling, that you've got to ease up, you've got to change your policies, you've got to accommodate. How are you going to, someone talks to the President a lot. How are you going to advise the President about the path forward?

Senator Josh Hawley (12:02)

I think the answer to all that is is that what we've got to do is deliver for the working people of this country. Who put the President in the White House, who put me in the Senate, who gave control of the Senate and the House to Republicans. If we don't deliver for these people, and this is what the president was saying this morning, if we don't deliver for these people, we're going to see more mandamis. We're going to see more socialists and communists out there taking control because working people in this country need champions and they need help right now. It's why Donald Trump got elected. It's why he's pursuing the policies he's pursuing. But I just think the message to Republicans are or is start delivering. Start delivering on the agenda that we ran on. We've got to help working people. We've got to get them their jobs back. We got to get them their wages up. We've got to make sure they can afford health care and we got to get moving on it. That's my takeaway and that's my message. And that's what the president said this morning. And I think he's right.

Steve Bannon (12:57)

We bringing you in. We'd cut off. We were listening to the arguments over the Supreme Court, John Sauer, the solicitor general, arguing just brilliantly a highly complicated about trade and tariffs and all of it. Your thoughts on that, sir?

Senator Josh Hawley (13:12)

Well, I think it's a hugely important case. I think that the president does absolutely have the authority under the law, statutory authority to impose these tariffs. I actually think, Steve, he's got it in multiple different statutes, including the famous Smoot Hawley tariff from back in the 1930s, which explicitly gives the president the ability to set tariffs up to the levels this president has. I'll just say this. I mean, setting the legal niceties of it aside, if the president can't do this, if the court strikes this down, we're looking at a complete economic 180. I mean, he has raised and is on pace to raise like a trillion dollars in new funds for this government that can help us with our deficit, help us with working people. He's reshoring jobs. You know, if the court takes that out of his hands, it's going to be a huge, huge problem. I don't think people appreciate how big of an impact these tariffs are making.

Steve Bannon (14:01)

That's what we played it live. Senator, your social media and website, how do you get to your writings and all your current thinking on social media?

Senator Josh Hawley (14:08)

Josh, Holly.com and then @ Holly Moe on all the social media platforms.

Steve Bannon (14:13)

Thank you Senator, for taking time to come. Thank you visit with us today. Appreciate it.

Senator Josh Hawley (14:17)

Thank you.

Steve Bannon (14:18)

Right there. Josh Hawley, one of the, if not the leading populist in the United States Senate. Mandami was coming from MAGA last night. So what are we going to do about it? We're going to curl up. You're going to do what Bill Ackman did. You're going to send out a tweet, have her in the audience, send it on social media right now to Mondame. Oh, it's so great. You won and we were wrong. And if you need any help, I'm here. DM me. Slide into Bill Ackman's DMs. How about that, Mandami? The billionaires are all going to collapse because they're all gutless. And none of them are maga. Not one of them. Short break. John Solomon. On the other side. Let me be blunt. Gold is up around 40% this year. That's not speculation, that's reality. And if a portion of your savings isn't diversified into gold, you're missing the boat. Now here's the facts. Inflation is still too high, The US Dollar is still too weak, and the government debt is insurmountable. That is why central banks are flocking to gold. They're the ones driving up the prices now to record highs. But it's not too late to buy gold from Birch Gold Group and get in the door. Now, Birch Gold will help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA. In gold, you don't pay a dime out of pocket. Just text Bannon to 989-898 and claim your free info kit. There's no obligation, just useful information. The best indicator of the future is the past. And gold has historically been a safe haven for a millennia. What else can you say? Text Bannon to 989-898 right now to claim your free info kit on Gold. That's Bannon to 989-898. Protect your future today with Birch Gold, America's voice Family. Are you on get her yet?

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John Solomon (18:05)

Yeah, listen, it was an anti American speech. It was. We are globalists and the intifada is more important than the American Revolution. And you see in very subtle ways the extremists that he really is, that he tried to paint down a little bit in the last few weeks of the election. But I think the most important story for everybody to read today is up on JustTheNews.com, it was written by Mike Stevenson, extraordinary colleague Jerry Dunleavy, great investigative reporter. He got inside the DSA New York group, which is the group that Mamdani belonged to before he started to distance himself. And they had a meeting this weekend that they allowed Jerry to attend. And you can see what they talked about. They are going to force the city of New York to divest from anything that is Jewish. They're going to stop the New York Police Department from training and getting certain capabilities that they don't like. They're going to regulate land sales. You may not be able to sell your piece of land in the future to who you want if the mayor doesn't like that. And then there is a lot of other agendas that are all in there. The purpose of this meeting was to make sure that the group that helped elect Mandami in the primary and last night will have a seat at the table and will pressure Maidani until he delivers what he told them privately he would deliver the wish list looks like something from a Soviet Republic, not something from an American capitalist city like New York City. That is the Mamdani you're going to see from this point forward. Not that jovial, cool looking kid from New York that talked a good game. This is a guy that is beholden to the socialists who got him in office and their values are very different from those that built the Big Apple.

Steve Bannon (19:50)

Your thoughts? I know you're not. You don't deal in the politics of it. You're more of an investigative reporter and reporter. But the path forward, if you were to advise the President, he's going to give a big economic speech at one o'. Clock. He already met with the Senate about the shutdown. What is the path forward sir?

John Solomon (20:07)

Well we needed that economic speech three weeks ago. We spent the last three weeks heading into the election not addressing what the Democrats real motive was. And the shutdown we did here at Just the News. But the political establishment in Washington failed to tell people what this is. The Democrats handed the Republicans the ultimate populist storyline. They shut down the government so that their big insurance donors could get $400 billion more in subsidies. By the way, you, the American people don't get those subsidies. They go straight to the insurers. And if you don't use your insurance, Obamacare insurance, they still get to keep of it. And here's the story that the President and his team and all of the Republicans should have told the last three Since Obamacare went up, profits for health insurance companies have soared. The American people in their back pocket haven't soared like the insurers. And as insurers became more and more ingrained in Obamacare and enriching themselves on it, they became more and more Democratic donors. Do you know who one of the largest donors to California's Prop 50 was? It was the insurance industry. Why they need those extra house seats to make sure that those incredible subsidies that we're sending to enrich fat cats and insurance companies will continue. That the gravy chain continued. Now that was a gift to the Republican Party. We wrote about it daily here at Just the News. I just heard Josh Hawley. I didn't hear him talk about that. That's how you connect with people who are trying to figure out what's on your dinner table, whether you can afford the next meal, the next mortgage or the next thing. The Republicans abandoned their economic populist connection to the American people the second they got in power. They went back to their PowerPoint. So they went back to their foreign policy. This country is still not convinced the economy is working for them. Donald Trump said he would. Now there's a story to tell. Egg prices were way down. Gasoline prices are way down. Interest rates are coming down. I didn't hear any of the leading candidates lean into that Trump success. They ran from Trump, they ran from economic populism. It was the worst executed strategy you could possibly have in this midterm election. The Republicans were given gifts. They were given a socialist, a murderous Attorney general candidate, and they couldn't defeat them because they got away from the playbook that just got them elected a year ago. The other thing is Donald Trump forgot that he got 4 million people out to the polls in early voting that never voted before. That was the Lee Zeldin AFW operation. Those were people that were on the sidelines last night. Mondame got people in Brooklyn who've never voted out because the socialist streetwalkers got them going. Republicans didn't run to get out the vote operation, particularly an early vote operation. Mamdani won three weeks ago. We didn't need Election Day. He had won three weeks ago. Republicans had no response in Jersey to that. No response in Virginia. I live in an upper middle class neighborhood. That settles elections in Virginia, Prince William County. I didn't get a single Republican canvasser to my door in the last month. I got 13 from the left. That tells you the failure. These are basic things of elections. And what won Donald Trump the election in 2024, his political team failed to implement in the April election. That gave up the Wisconsin Supreme Court. And in these elections, November. It's about ground game and economic messaging and they whiffed on both.

Steve Bannon (23:30)

John, you've got a bunch of updates. In fact, you're breaking some news on the investigation because I can tell you one of the frustrations of the MAGA movement is like, where are the perp walks? Right. We're nine months into this thing, a year from the day we won. It's the anniversary. What do you got for us?

John Solomon (23:45)

Well, I think a very important story this morning back in April. That's now what, six months from now? If I'm doing my math correctly, Cash Patel opened up a criminal investigation because he found these Comey documents and other documents like them in burn bags about to be destroyed. Some of them were not in the digital system, so if they had been burned, they would have been lost forever. One of those things are the Comey notes that we just saw in the court filing six months later. Even though we know who went in and out of scif, we know who probably put the burn bags in because skiffs. These storage areas have cameras. They have access codes, so you know who's in. Has the Justice Department indicted any of those people for obstruction? No. The criminal case was open. We didn't even get the documents. Cash Patel gets the documents to the DOJ right after April. It took us until November to get the documents. And it was only because Lindsey Halligan had the courage to stick them into a court filing. The doj, as I keep saying on your show, is grossly trailing behind the FBI. It is not resourced for the mission that Donald Trump gave them, the budget cuts they agreed to. They didn't reprioritize weaponization in a way that got them the staff. There are tens of thousands of pages of documents sitting, waiting to be produced to Congress. And yesterday, to give you a sense of where our Attorney General is, she did an Epstein documents 2.0 on all of us. She did it. She put out this tweet. Got a lot of, lot of traffic. Great Fox News story. Oh, my God. Guess what I discovered. I discovered that Joe Biden gave up Donald Trump's phone and Mike Pence's phone to Jack Smith. That's great, Madam Attorney General, except that story came out in April. She wasn't even aware that that was a, wasn't a new development, but an old development that had been discussed by Senators Grassley and Johnson for months. If you want to fix the pertwalk problem, if you want to fix the opportunity to bring accountability, Cash Patel has the evidence. The prosecutors, with the exception of Halligan, are lagging far behind the evidence. And that sand clock is ticking down not only on, not only on statute of limitations, but on the time that occurs in between elections. 26 elections already underway. We're missing really valuable time to educate the public. The American people are missing valuable time. I don't think DOJ is getting there. When you see that there was a six month delay in this document. When you see the Attorney General presenting something new that is old, she's so far behind the facts. I, I'm really worried that Donald Trump doesn't have the team that can bring accountability, the Justice Department. That's just my reporting. And by the way, that's what many Justice Department and members of Congress have been saying to me privately over the last three weeks, four weeks.

Steve Bannon (26:26)

John, to get all these, including that amazing report you've got on the dsa. The working family party in the DSA is not to be dismissed. It's a.

John Solomon (26:35)

That's right.

Steve Bannon (26:35)

They've got a ground. They are machine. A machine. They're a machine and people got it. Hey, they got 10,000 people not canvassing in the hot summer in August in Brooklyn. That's how you win. That's how you win a big election.

John Solomon (26:47)

John, here's the sad part. We don't talk about it. We don't talk about it. But Lee Zeldin built a machine like that with Susie Wiles and James Blair last year and we shut it off. What the heck, get that machine back. We had Republicans had massive canvassing going on in the sense of the spreadsheet I saw because I chronicled this as a journalist. 3.4 million people that got out who hadn't voted. Where was that machine? It got. It has to be revved up. Just the news.com and J. Solomon reports on all social media.

Steve Bannon (27:16)

John, thank you. Thank you for sticking around with us more. Appreciate you.

John Solomon (27:20)

Yeah, we had a lot of fun last night. Thanks for having me on.

Steve Bannon (27:22)

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Attorney/Legal Expert 1 (29:10)

That is just not something that any president has ever had the power to do in our history. And the idea that Congress by implication did this in 1977 and handed him all this power, I think is really difficult.

Steve Bannon (29:24)

Just to ask the other.

Senator Josh Hawley (29:25)

Go ahead.

Attorney/Legal Expert 2 (29:28)

Let's start with just the bare statutory language. You have arguments about structure, you have arguments about history. They're strong arguments. But let's just start with the bare statutory language. Regulate importation.

Steve Bannon (29:47)

If we disregard all of the rest.

Attorney/Legal Expert 2 (29:49)

Would you dispute that that would include the imposition of a fee?

Attorney/Legal Expert 1 (29:54)

So if it's revenue, yeah, we do dispute that. Absolutely.

Attorney/Legal Expert 2 (29:57)

What if there were a statute that said, I mean, suppose that there's a particular national park that's very crowded and Congress passes a statute that says the National Park Service may regulate admission to the park. Would you say, well, that does not allow them to impose a fee.

Attorney/Legal Expert 1 (30:12)

So, you know, your honor, sometimes we think of fees as not revenue raising, but rather capturing the cost of government services. In your example, the going to the park that may, you know, those kinds of cases which you think, suppose it.

Attorney/Legal Expert 2 (30:25)

Goes beyond the, the, the cost of, of running the park. Congress just wants to control admission to the park, park regulated mission. Wouldn't that include the imposition of a fee?

Attorney/Legal Expert 1 (30:38)

So if, if it doesn't raise revenue, then it's not about that. Then I think that's fine.

Attorney/Legal Expert 2 (30:44)

If it does, it raises revenue.

Steve Bannon (30:46)

That, I think it's a tougher hypothetical.

Attorney/Legal Expert 2 (30:48)

That wouldn't, that wouldn't apply.

Attorney/Legal Expert 1 (30:49)

So I think, I think in that circumstance that it wouldn't be a regulation in context and wouldn't be permitted, that is, at least in the context of tariffs and trade. We know. Justice Alito.

Attorney/Legal Expert 2 (31:00)

Well, that gets into your other arguments. We start out with the bare statutory language and that was what my question was about. Do you think all tariffs are revenue raising? Suppose that instead of imposing these across the board tariffs, suppose that an executive order imposed a tariff on one particular country and provided that this would take effect in 90 days, and suppose that within those 90 days an agreement is reached with that country so that no tariff, no tariff is ever collected. Would that be a revenue raising tariff?

Attorney/Legal Expert 1 (31:48)

I take it the initial point of the. And on its face, it is revenue raising. That that's what it's for. And so I think that would, and look I don't doubt that there are edge cases. That is what this court's confronted just recently in FCC versus Consumer Research. And you said look, what is a tax is sometimes very hard. What is revenue raising? This is obviously revenue raising. Their own brief to the court says it's going to raise $4 trillion. And Justice Alito, you and your Consumers Research dissent, Justice Gorsuch dissent that you joined said taxation is special and different and it is the most powerful thing the government does. And the idea that Congress, when they know exactly how to write tariff and tax statutes, gave this power by implication through the word regulate I think is very, very hard.

Attorney/Legal Expert 2 (32:37)

You cite many different statutory provisions that impose tariffs.

Steve Bannon (32:44)

And you have a point.

Attorney/Legal Expert 2 (32:44)

If that's the relevant universe. What if the relevant universe is tariffs that are imposed in emergency situations?

Attorney/Legal Expert 1 (32:54)

Yes. So I think it cuts the other way. So you know, as Justice Jackson said, when you're in an emergency situation, the statutes actually have to speak with more precision. The public needs to know because emergencies beget emergency. And I would say the best way of understanding what Congress does in emergencies is to look at their emergency.

Steve Bannon (33:14)

That's Neil Cattell. You see him on. We have many clips of him. He's actually arguing for the companies. We have many clips from former, I think interim Solicitor General. I don't think he ever got Senate confirmed. Also Barry Leed, Boris Epstein's professor at Georgetown Law. I'm just saying, very crafty guy but very smart guy. These arguments today are pretty intense. We will have a summary of all this with experts on it in the 5pm hour plus a analysis and maybe some clips from President Trump's going to give a major economic speech at 1pm and I can tell you behind the scenes there's a lot going on, a lot of pressure on President Trump now. And he's trying to put pressure to figure out how to end the government shutdown. What we can't do is ever concede with the Democrats. Their entire strategy is built around illegal aliens and foreign born folks. That is the lesson. Last night of New York City. You're paying for 40 or 50 years, 40 or 50 years of bad immigration policy. And the billionaires in the corporatist in Silicon Valley gaming the system to take away your jobs and to give them to foreigners. That's what last night sounded like. By the way, when it first cut on, it sounded like you were in Bollywood. Now I have no problem with Bollywood. I think that stuff, I think a lot of that content is absolutely amazing. Okay, but the mayor of New York City and he's up in your grill. We'll play that again and again. You got to watch that speech. He not so happy Clappy now, is he? Remember how happy Clappy. He's nice. He's a nice Obama. He's a more articulate young Obama. Remember that? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. In that speech, he's telling you what he's going to do and what you're going to have to just live with it, because that's the way it rolls, folks. And you either stop it now. Oh, Bannon, you MAGA guys, you're too hard. You're too tough. Either stop it now or it's just going to metastasize. Look what's happened down in Texas. Got a fight on our hands down in Texas, folks. Got a big old fighter on our hands. Got some clip today, some guy I don't know, London, Paris, saying, hey, Texas is the new Mecca, so saddle up, folks. You're either going to give this country away in this generation right here, or you're going to fight and keep it and return it to its former glory and greatness. That's what all this comes down to, one or the other. It's a binary choice. It's a binary choice. You saw last night, you saw this reduction, by the way. 63. I think they won by 30 points. It was close. 30 points. All these people coming from California. I just go, folks, unless you get Trump engaged out there and get the MAGA votes, got millions and millions of voters. If you do that, you maybe have a shot. You don't do that, you got no shot. And I was thinking 20, maybe 25 over 30. I think it's over 30, close to 30 points. Blowout. And it launches Newsom, and Newsom is going to take it to his full advantage. And now we got game on. You know the great redistricting strategy we did in 21 and early 22 and then on a roll at Texas, but still we were stopped by the Republican establishment. Just like you got Judas Pence, you know, Judas Pence is putting the knife in Dr. Roberts and all the Project 2025 guys. He's trying to take over Heritage. They all want to come back, I tell you. They all see Trump as a passing summer storm, and they just see you as a bunch of grundoons that once Trump's gone, they're just going to get you all back inside the controlled opposition of the Republican establishment so they can get tapped along, right? Do you think New York City, that just happened and you can't blame it solely on progressive Democrats. Although that's who drove it. Every policy, every open borders policy came from them. Where was National Review and Rich Lowry and Winnie? Where are you guys? When this was happening in New York City, where were you? Oh, that's right. You're having debating societies up in your Ceylons, up in the Upper east side, you know, with the bow ties and the, you know. Awfully. Awfully. I'm in this club, I'm in that club. I'm a whiffing poof from Yale. Right? Doesn't hack it. Doesn't hack it. This is not a debating society. What did Mao Zedong say? It ain't a garden party. You know who knows that? The Working Families Party, the DSA and mom, Donnie, they understand that. You see Bill Ackman, that's all the corporate class behind the scenes. He grovels to this guy in front of him on Twitter. Grovels, Ackman. That's a beauty. That's what you think you're building your class, going to stand up there. You think all those billionaires that came over a year ago tonight, you think any of those guys are going to be with you? You get down and dirty on this fight for the midterms. You just watch them. Yesterday, a big piece in the Washington Post. Oh, we're people on the right in Peter Thiel and all these guys you need. We need an aristocracy. The MAGA people are too dumb. Yeah, that would be you. You're too dumb. You're too lazy. Immigrants going to start the businesses. But you need a new aristocracy, you know, led by Palantir and led by Peter Thiel. Right. You need a. You need an aristocracy because you can't govern yourself. You can't drive to a conclusion. The project to save our country. Yeah, that would be you. The ones have been in the trenches longest, have fought so many battles and won so many battles. Yeah, what you need, you need. You need to get layered by a new aristocracy. That's exactly what we need. Yeah, that's worked out well. But this is okay because, you know, they. They believe in tax cuts and you know, they believe in, you know, you know, Israel first, all that. They got all that. So they're guys that you fall in line and back off because you need a new aristocracy. I'll go through that Washington Post article in detail. Because not only not going to need an aristocracy, we're not going to have an aristocracy, okay? Not in this country, not in this time. You're playing right into the hands of Mondami. In this crowd, you're playing right into the hands of them because you're too fricking stupid to understand what's actually going on. And you're too much greed and avarice. Don't need it. You want that, you go, go. Mandami is going to come and strip it all away anyway. The DSA and the Working Family Party, they think they got momentum. Want to thank Patriot Mobile for sponsoring last night. And by the way, the Tarrant county and Lee Wambsgan was the one bright light, they say. But Steve, that was just a Texas Senate seat. Hey, there was a lot on the line there because you had three and a half, $4 million of Republican money supporting a guy that's kind of a Democrat. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. Dirty Chinese money coming from Macau, the center of, I don't know, sex traffic, money laundering, you name it. A cesspool. A cesspool. A total and complete cesspool. Money put on Lee Wambsgan, who's tough as boot leather and had to go against the Democrats on the left and the phony Republicans on the right. That's a warrior and did it with grace and charm and just good old American stick to itiveness. And if you saw her last night, she looked like she'd been through a tough time because they came for her hard. But upon that. Those are the types of things like in Texas, you can build upon, you can build upon. And Texas is in play. It's a very dangerous specter over Texas. Very dangerous. Very, very dangerous. They're coming for Texas also. The way we solve Manhattan is through Texas. It's going to be quite interesting. Want to thank a patriot? Mobile972 Patriots, stop giving your money to people that hate you. You want to see who hates you? Go back and look at Mandani's victory speech last night. When you should be the most magnanimous. He dealt with the Cuomos. I've watched a lot of victory speeches in politics. I have never in my entire life ever seen the cruelty of which Mondame dealt with Cuomo and the response from the crowd. That's what you got coming. Remember, the Cuomo is the. Cuomo is the crown prince of the. Of the. Of the progressive side of the Democratic Party. That's what they think of you. Just think about that. Trevor Comstock. We got a minute. I'm going to hold you through. What do you got for us today, brother? We need to feel healthy. We got a long march ahead of us. Where did it Go? Where do we go? What do we do?

Trevor Comstock (42:14)

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Steve Bannon (44:59)

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Steve Bannon (45:16)

Trevor started this. He's worked in other, you know, around this industry for a long time, knows it cold, want to start a company. He's fantastic. These entrepreneurs, these founders want to build it one customer at a time. So make contact directly with him. Trevor, I'll see you this afternoon. We'll get you in with President Trump in this economic program. Trevor Comstock, Sacred Human Health Go check it out. The Make America Healthy Again movement, our coalition. Cameron Kinsey, you know, bad news on the deficits. They're big and they're growing. To be quite honest. We are trying to cut them with tariffs, although they're arguing from the Supreme Court today that might go away if we lose that case. Now, if you've got a problem with the irs, the irs, what the IRS thinks you owe may be different what you think you owe. And there is the rub, okay? They're coming for the money they think that you owe. You got to make a case with somebody about what reality is. How do people do that?

Cameron Kinsey (46:10)

Cameron Kinsey, that's a great question, Steve. Thank you so much for having me on. I mean, Americans are still getting hit with these audits, this back taxes, wage garnishments. We obviously saw the elimination of Biden holdovers at the IRS. President Trump, you know, got rid of 25% of the workforce, which is a great start to ending this government overreach. But, you know, when the IRS furloughs workers during a government shutdown, which honestly is just so typical for the government to take money without working. But it does create major delays. You know, the refund stall, the phone lines will close, Steve, Cases under review will just sit. And so for taxpayers already facing audits or collections during this time, that uncertainty can become very stressful for them. And so at Tax Network usa, we step in as the middleman, Steve. We handle all communication. We protect our clients from growing penalties, keeping their cases Moving as much as possible. And so even when the IRS slows down, we make sure that our clients aren't getting left behind. But here's what I will say. We are one of the nation's leading tax relief firms. We've helped everyday Americans, we've helped business owners as well fight back against this aggressive IRS enforcement that we've seen. So if you're dealing with years of unfiled returns, you're dealing with mounting penalties, collections already underway. We have a team of CPAs, tax attorneys, even former IRS agents who know the tax code inside and out. They know exactly how to help you. And you need a professional team when going up against the irs. We are not a cookie cutter tax company who's going to take your money and vanish when things get tough. We really do go to war for our clients, Steve. And because we believe your hard earned money should stay in your own pocket, we have saved people over a billion dollars in back taxes. And we don't say that lightly. At Tax Network usa, we've worked with salary, employees, retirees, small business owners, gig workers, you name it. Nothing is too big or small for us. And chances are we've already seen it and we know exactly how to handle it. So we're not just another service provider. We share the same values of our listeners watching today. Less bureaucratic nonsense. Limited government protecting people from these weaponized institutions. Steve, that is the lens we approach every single case with. We're on your side, not theirs.

Steve Bannon (48:23)

One more time, where do people go right now? Because people I know are worried about this. Where do they go?

Cameron Kinsey (48:28)

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Steve Bannon (48:45)

Free consultation. Totally free, folks. Get rid of the angst. Cameron Kinsey, I know you got a new company, you're starting things, you're one of the rising stars in this movement, but man, we need you in the White House. What I got to do, talk to you about going back and you're doing a great job. I know those guys love you. We need you in the White House. How do we do that?

Cameron Kinsey (49:01)

Girl, I know you got to go. Put in a good word for me. I wouldn't mind going back to serve. You know, the greatest president. I was so happy to do so on the first admin.

Steve Bannon (49:11)

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Mike Lindell (50:01)

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Steve Bannon (51:46)

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Mike Lindell (51:57)

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Steve Bannon (51:57)

Great reporters. The Charlie Kirk show is next on Real America's Voice followed by Jack Posic, Human Events Daily, Steve Gruber, the Eric bowling, and then 5:00pm Eastern Daylight Time. You'll be back right here in the War room. Okay, let's be honest. You never thought it would get this far. Maybe you missed the last IRS deadline or you haven't filed taxes in a while. Let me be clear. The IRS is cracking down harder than ever. And this ain't gonna go away anytime soon. That's why you need Tax Network usa. They don't just know the irs. They have a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to deal with and which to avoid. Their expert negotiators have one Gold. Settle your tax problems quickly and in your favor. Their team has helped clear over $1 billion in tax debt. Whether you owe 10,000 or 10 million, even if your books are a mess or you haven't filed in years, Tax Network USA can help. But don't wait. This won't fix itself. Call Tax Network USA right now. It's free. Talk to a strategist. And finally, put this behind you. Call 1-800-958-1000. That's 1-800-958-10000 or visit tnusa.com Bannon make sure you tell em Bannon. You'll get a free evaluation. That's 1-800-958-1000. Do not letters from the IRS or your failure to file work on your nerves anymore. Take action. Action. And do it today.