Podcast Episode Summary
Podcast: Bannon's War Room
Episode: 4915 – Building A Personal Offense Against Big Tech; Marines 250
Date: November 10, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Notable Guests: Erik Prince, Jack Posobiec, Major General Austin Renforth, Michael Pack, Admiral Sonny Masso, Taj Gill, Mike Lindell
Overview:
This episode commemorates the 250th anniversary of the United States Marine Corps, reflecting on its storied history, valor, and enduring legacy. The conversation transitions between honoring fallen Marines and the meaning of service, before pivoting to an in-depth discussion with Erik Prince about building secure communications technology (“The Unplugged Phone”) in the age of Big Tech surveillance. Additional highlights include discussions of military documentaries, remembrance ceremonies in Philadelphia, and ongoing efforts to preserve naval and marine history.
1. Commemorating the 250th Anniversary of the Marines
Honoring the Corps and the Fallen
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Live report from Jack Posobiec at the Philadelphia Vietnam Veterans Memorial, where the names of fallen Marines are read out—a poignant reminder of sacrifice.
- [01:26] Jack Posobiec: "They're going through every single name... the list of the KIA for this unit. Steve, seven pages long, single spaced."
- [16:54] Jack Posobiec: "It's a cold day, it's a rainy day... But that didn't stop the Marines... They're ringing a bell for each person who died."
- [18:10] Steve Bannon: "Talk to me about Philadelphia as the birthplace... the Marine Corps was founded in Philadelphia 250 years ago today at Tun Tavern."
- The reading of Taps and prayer mark somber moments of reflection [19:27–21:09].
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Major General Austin Renforth reflects on Marine Corps heritage and service:
- [22:32] Maj. Gen. Renforth: “We don’t just honor the Marine Corps, we celebrate it…remembering our brothers and sisters that have gone before us and just taking pride in the fact that we’re United States Marines until the day we die.”
- Boot camp transformation and the “yellow footprints” tradition at Parris Island are described in detail [24:40–25:51].
The Culture & Spirit of the Corps
- On Marine traditions:
- Marines learn their history from the very first day—heritage and shared sacrifice being core to the identity and esprit de corps.
- [23:52] Maj. Gen. Renforth: “At the end when you're cold, wet, tired and hungry... you think of those that have gone before you and they become your conscience."
2. Building a Personal Offense Against Big Tech: The Unplugged Phone
Erik Prince on Secure Communications and Tech Sovereignty
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Background:
- Prince draws from military history and personal experience, warning that compromised communications have toppled movements and discussing "surveillance capitalism."
- [04:48] Erik Prince: “Every significant movement that was destroyed was often undermined or destroyed by their communications being compromised.”
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On Big Tech-Government Collusion:
- Specific reference to Big Tech's role post-2020 election, censorship, deplatforming, and the coordinated shutdown of secure platforms like Parler and Wickr.
- [05:22] Steve Bannon: "They bought Wickr so they could basically shut down secure communications."
- [05:27] Prince: "Or put a back door that nobody could verify."
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The Unplugged Phone:
- Built to be user-friendly for Android and Apple converts, with support for common apps but with zero data exfiltration.
- Security is confirmed by law enforcement’s inability to access seized devices, and the system is open-source for public inspection.
- [06:28] Prince: "The unplugged phone prevents the collection and the export of all your data and we show you that in real-time."
- [07:53] Bannon: "Why is this such a huge deal about how big tech get into your phone...?"
- [08:07] Prince: "Surveillance capitalism... all the apps that are designed to sit in that phone are designed to collect where you go, what you buy, who you call, what you browse..."
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On Parental Concerns:
- Highlights how average American kids are exposed—by 13, 72 million data points about them are collected by Big Tech.
- [09:59] Prince: "The unplugged phone allows them to communicate with you safely... all their kids data is not being blasted out."
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Civil Liberties & Fourth Amendment:
- Prince connects tech surveillance to constitutional rights.
- [11:27] Prince: "Any government agent or any investigator... can go buy data from a data broker and figure out who went to a gun show, who went to a Christian school..."
3. Remembering and Celebrating the Marines Through Documentary Film
Screening of “The Last 600 Meters”
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Michael Pack introduces his long-delayed PBS documentary about the Marines in Iraq:
- [23:14] Bannon: "It will premiere tonight on PBS ... after 17 years."
- [26:25] Pack: “It’s very satisfying to finally do it... I always say I’m grateful to the president of PBS... for reversing 17 years of no and turning it into a yes.”
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Realism & Service Depicted:
- Discussion of the brutally honest portrayal of Fallujah (some scenes edited for broadcast).
- [31:08] Bannon: “It ends with Marines... taking Fallujah in the second battle... one of the most intense battles the Marine Corps has fought.”
4. Reflections on Combat, Camaraderie, and Service
The Realities of the Iraq War
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First-Person Accounts:
- Major General Renforth shares personal experience as an operations officer during the Fallujah events.
- [31:49] Maj. Gen. Renforth: “I was actually the operations officer... when those contractors were drug through the streets... I had to provide, give guidance, provide a military response.”
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Camaraderie and Endurance:
- Marines’ loyalty to each other, even as missions evolved in the chaos of war.
- [34:38] Renforth: “Didn’t really matter what the mission was. What mattered most is that they were there with each other... they were going to do anything for each other.”
5. Preserving Naval History and Looking to the Future
National Navy Museum and Naval History Podcast
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Admiral Sonny Masso discusses efforts to fund and launch the National Navy Museum by 2030.
- [36:20] Admiral Masso: “...to really capture the essence of our Navy over the past 250 years.”
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Education and Outreach:
- Museum is to be “artifact-centric,” but also a platform for STEM learning and leadership history.
- [38:27] Masso: “You can donate right on the front page... lays out our goals and aspirations.”
Podcasting on Naval History
- Naval Historical Foundation’s Second Saturday:
- Regular program covering everything from World War II to the thresher disaster.
- Episodes available on YouTube: “NHF Second Saturday” [39:15]
Notable Quotes & Moments
- On the Surveillance Economy:
- Erik Prince [08:56]: "The difference is we block the phone from exporting that data... all that stuff is sold to a data broker... You can effectively be taken digitally groomed."
- On Marine Transformation:
- Maj. Gen. Austin Renforth [25:51]: “We break them down to their lowest form and we build them back up to be a United States Marine with all the values of honor, courage and commitment.”
- On Real-World Consequence of War:
- Jack Posobiec [20:08]: “When we're talking about putting American men... in harm’s way, this isn’t some... think piece in the Washington Post... that means you're sending these boys to be willing to get blown up, be willing to get shot at, and in many cases, not coming back.”
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 03:30–06:28: Erik Prince on Big Tech, government collusion, and secure comms
- 07:53–09:53: Data privacy, AI, and parental off-ramps
- 16:54–19:27: Commemoration at Philadelphia, Marine Corps origin at Tun Tavern
- 22:32–25:51: Major General Renforth on Marine tradition, training, ethos
- 26:25–31:08: Documentary discussion—“The Last 600 Meters”, Marines in Fallujah
- 31:49–34:38: Operations in Fallujah, camaraderie in combat
- 36:20–39:15: Admiral Masso on Navy museum and naval history podcast
Wrap-Up
- The episode blends reverence for Marine heritage with modern concerns about personal security and technology.
- Offers a deep dive into how the military, veterans, and allies are working to remember the past, safeguard the future, and defend personal freedoms.
- Throughout, the tone is one of defiance, duty, celebration, and remembrance.
