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Episode 4924: The Punch List On Saving America; Next Direction Of MAHA
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go.
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To share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It's Thursday the 13th of November in the year of our Lord 2025. I want to bring in Andrew Kovett. Andrew was Charlie's co host and wingman for many, many years, is now one of the co hosts of the Charlie Kirk show. Going forward we toss to every day for, I don't know, the last three or four years, toss to him every day. Also one of the guys with Charlie and Tyler and the rest of the team over there thought through exactly where Turning Point was going to focus. Not just the operations of ballot chasing and having these amazing debates on college campuses and the outreach and the turning Point faith and everything they've got going on but actually thinking through exactly what are trying to do, what are we trying to accomplish, how we, how are we serving the next generation of young people in America. And I think that's why people are so, have responded so heavily, have billions of hits on all their social media. So Andrew, by the way, thanks for doing this. People should know getting ready for a two hour show, coming on another show right beforehand is not the, is always a struggle. There's been this tweet up and Benny had it on yesterday with, with Chip Roy, we put it up yesterday. I talked to you about it. Walk us through. You got, you got Mark Mitchell that, that's breathing fire right now. You got Brat who's everybody's favorite uncle, who's telling you what the practicality is. Walk me through those two. How you see it, where do you see the direction of this in this, this action plan that you and Charlie came up with. Walk people through because it's starting to galvanize a lot of attention right now. If we gotta get some stuff, a punch list, let's look at Charlie's punch list. So take it from there, sir.
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Yeah, absolutely. And thanks for Having me, Steve, and for the kind words. And you've just been a tremendous ally in the fight all along the way. And Charlie always tuned into your show. He was like straight into his veins. And so you're a big part of this too, Steve. And listen, you're right, we were laser focused on making sure that the gains that we had, the coalitions that we were building in 2024 did not go by the wayside in 2025. We understood that vote was not a permanent, you know, ushering in of a permanent new electorate. We had to keep earning that vote. And when we saw some of the foreign policy decisions, when we saw some of the Epstein stuff come out, we knew we were losing some of that trust that we had built. I mean, they put a flyer on Trump. This was a flyer vote. We're going to give you a chance because the other things not work and we see that. But we understood it was always going to be mangionism, Mamdanism versus Maga versus economic, national populism. Driving forward with a rising tide lifts all boats as opposed to the zero sum game grievance politics that are offered by the left. And so we're laser focused on how do we do this, how do we reinspire the youth to get a stake and get some skin in the game, into the American dream, believe in this, in this republic. And so, yeah, this was a punch list. It was started with mass deportations. We understood that we're seeing our country get invaded. We understood that this is causing housing crisis. This is causing, you know, backup at emergency rooms. It's a visible visceral thing that young people can see in their communities. They understand that the country they inherited all of a sudden is not for them anymore. That's the message that it's sending, is that we don't care that you were born here. This country's for foreigners. Mass deportation also has crime implications, obviously. Step number two, stop the H1B scam. I love what Mark Mitchell said. This is something young people experience when they go into the workforce. And about 80% of these jobs in H1B are going to entry level, junior level type jobs. The exact jobs that we need to be able to ensure are reserved for American citizens. America is for Americans. And then when you do this H1B scam and you got 80% or 70%, it's going to go to Indians, another 10 to 15% to Chinese. This is, you're looking visibly at your country saying, it's no longer for me. And that is, that is depressing on a, on a existential level for young people. Steve, you got step number three, dramatically reduce legal immigration. We've got robotics, we've got AI that's coming, automation that's going to be wiping out a ton of these entry level jobs, analyst jobs, the first rung on the economic ladder for so many college grads. And you've got 1.2 million green cards being passed around like they're candy based on a 1990 law that we don't need anymore. This is antiquated. We do not need it. You might have said in 1990 there was a justification for it. I would argue with that. But right now there's absolutely no justification that we need 1.2 million green cards every year. Step four, end chain migration in the visa lottery. What good does this do our country? There's absolutely no good that it does our country. These are not people that are brought here for merit. They're not geniuses. There's no, there's no actual rationale for these people. End it immediately. Number five, build 10 million new homes for Americans. This is key. Mark Mitchell's talking about. We need visible evidence that we are putting young people first. We need visible, visible, visible evidence. We need big, hairy, bold, audacious ideas that we can go put President Trump, J.D. vance in front of a camera, breaking ground behind them, seeing huge new homes that we're going to, guess what we're going to, we're going to make sure institutional buyers don't come in and swoop up those, those homes. We're going to make sure that foreign born immigrants, illegals or foreign investors don't get first dibs at those homes. These are going to be for first time home buyers. Let's make sure that they have priority, Steve, in these 10 million new homes. Let's break ground. Let's do something big and bold and, and you know, whether it's writing off the first $50,000 of the mortgage every year till they're 35, whether it's, you know, letting write off their whole mortgage, I don't know. Let's talk about big ideas. Let's make sure that we get young people into the housing market because that's the first thing. And then number, number six, crush the college cartel. Steve. This is huge. So many of our college grads, they don't learn the skills they need. They've been indoctrinated. And then when they get out there in $250,000 worth of debt and what does that debt do? It pushes off family formation. It pushes off Getting a mortgage. It pushes off those conservatizing life events. We call them the three M's on the Charlie Kirk Show. That is Marriage, mating and mortgage. Marriage, mating and mortgage. Even the Brooking Institute acknowledges that when young people do those three M's, they become conservatives, they start voting the way we want them to. And so this is an existential crisis with our young people. They don't believe in the system, they don't believe in the republic. And they need leaders that do bold things and put them first.
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When you, when you. Because first off, Turning Point has a massive operation now. I think you've got chapters in virtually every high school and college in the country. Plus you have a huge plant there in Phoenix with young people. You're on the road all the time. You have the show, you've got social media. What is the feedback you're getting from young people when you talk about these specific action items that can be taken if we have the political will to do it?
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No, they love these action items, Steve. But then they go, well, why are we so focused on foreign affairs? Why are we focused on abstractions? We need to focus on domestic issues. Now. Listen, I agree with Dave Brat, what he said in the last hour. President Trump is the one guy that can thread the needle. I think there are justifications for making sure that we have peace abroad so that we can be thriving domestically. I think it's simply a messaging thing and there's no better messenger than President Trump. He can do it. J.D. vance, I've been hearing him message on this. He can do it. Stephen Miller, he's an amazing messenger. You've got Scott Bessen, another amazing messenger. I think that the administration is pivoting right now. You're going to see this. I think you're going to see it over the coming weeks and days and months. But you're right. The question is, do we have the political will? And until we have the political will, these young people are going to call BS on this. They're just simply going to say, I don't see it. I haven't seen it happen. And so we just need action. Once we have action, then guess what? The political junkies, the influencers. Shows like this, we're going to have. We're going to have actual evidence to point to and say, listen, you said you wanted X, you got Y. You said you wanted A, you got B, C and D. Listen, all we need is the goods to go out there and look our people straight in the eye and say, you asked, you received, we delivered and you got to give it a little time to come through. But the alternative is that they're just going to throw up their hands, give in to nihilism, give in to depression and bail on the American dream. We can't have that.
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Steve, you guys came up with the ballot chasing operation and kind of started to perfect it. And this is after learning, you know, taking some lumps and learning, because you guys are a learning organization. A lot of people are now saying, hey, and we've been the leader of kind of the forefront of this redistricting fight or the traditional war. And they're saying, hey, if we can't win that, there's no hope for the midterms. What are your thoughts? If we can galvanize and get at least a couple of these big ones done? Have you written off the midterms as, oh, you know, poor pitiful me, we're just going to lose it, or do we have a fight here?
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No, you know, Steve, you and I have talked about this recently, actually, the importance of this redistricting fight. And I appreciate you leading the charge on that. You know, you've got California v. Texas at this point. And my concern is that those would basically equal each other out. They'd be equal in the wash there. But, you know, my concern there is that the Texas maps rely heavily upon the Hispanic vote. And you mentioned galvanized. Well, if we don't deliver, if the economy doesn't deliver, if we don't see some of these policies actually materialize and we don't message effectively on it, then we could lose the Hispanic vote and we could go backwards on that to, you know, 2016, 2020 levels, in which case some of those, those House seats in Texas are up for grabs again. And we have to be very cognizant of that. So we need states like Indiana, we need states like Nebraska, Kansas and Florida. We need Ohio. We need all of those states to get on board and see the urgency. We have not written that off. And the ballot chasing is going to be key, Steve. But you know, I think back to 2024, where Democrats still put more investment into canvassing than Republicans. But why did it not work? Because they had a terrible message and a terrible candidate. You can only do so much through canvassing and ballot chasing, as we call it. It's critically important, especially since we sort of with this realignment under Trump now we have the low propensity party and we need to chase those ballots. That's key. But if we are not galvanizing the electorate, they're going to, they're going to close the door in our face. They're not going to listen. They're going to throw whatever door hangers you put on their door or pamphlets or literature, they're going to throw it in the trash just like they were doing with Kamala. So it's not an either or, it's a both, and it's a one plus two. In politics, there is no silver bullet. You just have to do the work and then you have to deliver the goods.
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Talk to me about before we let you go, Amfest. I know you're sold out. Just tell us about Amfest. Amfest is going to be really the launchpad for 2026. That and what else you guys are doing at Turning Point right now.
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Yeah, I mean, thanks. Thanks for bringing it up, Steve. Yeah. When we lost Charlie, I mean, the whole world was speaking galvanized. They were galvanized. And they, you know, one of the things that we saw is Amfest just exploded. And I think last year was our biggest year ever when we had President Trump. We had 21,000 people at the Phoenix Convention center that day. And this is going to be even bigger than that, Steve. And yeah, we had to sort of turn off ticketing for fire marshal issues and just venue capacity issues. And it's just going to be an absolute testament and celebration of Charlie's life and his legacy, what he taught us. We're going to try and remember the lessons that he taught us. And we're going to be, as you said, action, action, action. There's some of these debates that we're having on the right. These are going to be front and center. We're going to have them out right on the main stage. We're going to have breakouts galore, Steve. So many breakouts. You're going to be there. We got a big announcement of somebody else who's going to be there coming in the next couple days. So stay tuned for that. I mean, it's going to be the heart and the center of the conservative universe for the three, four days that we're doing it right there in Phoenix at the convention center. And we're honored that you're going to be a part of it, Steve.
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Yeah. And of course, Real America's Voice in the war room will broadcast. We'll have our booth down there. Always the number one booth. Big gathering place for folks. Andrew, thank you so much. Your social media, where they go to get the Charlie Kirk show. We know you follow us here. Real on, Rav. What's Your social media where they go for the show.
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Yeah. Follow me on X Twitter. Drew Colvetch is my name and you can check out the Charlie Kirk show everywhere you have podcasts Rumble please check it out there. We actually we pin it on X as well. You can get it all all the places. We're honored to have you guys. We love the war room and we.
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Love you guys too. Love tossing to you every day. Andrew, Corvette, thank you so much. The punch list. We got the punch list now. Thank you sir. Richard Barris is going to join us. Brad, you got 30 seconds. Tell me what you think about Charlie's punch list.
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Yeah, it's a great punch list because it's a win in the short run while President Trump brings in the Capitol which will take a year or two. This is a short run. Huge win on immigration. Bring the kids in. It's interesting. Also real quickly everything Colbat just mentioned, those are also the headwinds to productivity growth in AI and we can hit that later. But the education inequality, the debt, the inequality, it's all linked together.
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You can follow all of your favorites. Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobi and so many more. Download the Getter app now. Sign up for free and be part of the new pins. Okay, Richard Barris now I feel like we're got the 27 Yankees coming here. One killer after the next. Richard Barris. I don't want to tell, I don't want to say the state, but your people are reaching out to you now particularly to look through what happened at the big states in the mid Atlantic New Jersey and Virginia. And their question is because people, you know, the Republican, particularly the operatives, they really want to understand what went on. And that's a question they ask you, right? Because like, tell us what happened. That's kind of the starting point, correct?
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It is. And my response first to them all the time is let me see what you did. Because honestly, what I see is a lot of waste of money. It is. There is an important part of that. I was listening to Andrew Covid on before as well. And anyone who's done this has been in this side of the game. Steve knows that the, one of the biggest problems in Republican politics is that the Republican donors don't want to pay for the stuff that's not sexy. The stuff you were just talking about with Andrew. It's very difficult to raise that kind of money that were in a state like both Virginia and New Jersey. They were grossly outspent. The organizations from top to bottom, whether they're congressmen or state members of the House of Delegates or a state legislature or whatever it may be. They're helping their candidates up and down the ballot any way they can, right? They get the Rolodex out and no matter what, you know, whether, whether or not it gets them a seat at a party later or something. You know, Republican donors love to give to places like Heritage so they can put on their suits and go rub Elbows and talk and be cool and think they're, they're important. That doesn't win elections, that wins zero votes. And Democrats get out their big checkbook and they say, what do you need? There's job listings as far as the eye can see on Indeed and Craigslist. To go out there and chase ballots. It's almost an endless supply of money. And what I see every time I ask these people to open the books is a waste of money. I mean that's just. I could break it down. Well, simple.
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The consultant, the consulting class, it's called points on the buy. They convince the donors that it's all about TV and it's about. And that's not how you get to lower propensity, lower information voters, which is kind of the key. This is how Mandami won in New York City. This is how President Trump has won three times. This is how we're continue to win. If you focus in the Republican Party and people freak out if Trump's name's not exactly on the ballot and you have to recreate that, you have to put Trump on the ballot without him being technically on the ballot. And the donors and particularly the consulting class because they don't get paid. Charlie Kirk and the Turning Point team did not set up battle chasing and all the ground game and all the canvassing and everything like that to make money. It was the exact opposite. They did it as a service. People joined them, et cetera. It was hard, grueling work. The precinct strategy people know that, right? The Warren posse knows that. The Ralph Reed's group knows that it's not a moneymaker. And that's why the consultants always divert your attention that and go right to the media buy because they get points on the buy. And that's how they, that's all they were focused on. You saw in New Jersey, where they were running on a content basis really a campaign from the 1990s on tax cuts and the size of government. You have people, that's true, those things are a problem. But there are many more issues I mean to have in the commonwealth in New Jersey, the energy issue and the electricity issue that we've been talking about here for a couple of years, predicated upon Biden and the left's green new scam. To have that really go to the Democrats as that's affordability. And they're focused on you that they caused it. Right. And the people that caused it were able to weaponize it. Richard.
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I mean, Steve, I've lived in, I lived in Jersey for Years, I don't anymore. But for many years they're over there talking about property taxes, wondering why the young voter is not coming out when the young voter can't afford a home to live in New Jersey. You're talking about something that isn't even part of their world's problem right now. And that is another big problem that I see. They get this money and they blanket spend it across the board, right? So if you're going to send out mailers to a 25 year old voter, don't be surprised that they take it, shred it and throw it in the garbage.
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Right?
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The lack of, I mean basic micro targeting is disgusting. But also there's simple, take the bird's eye view here first. And I think Andrew actually brought this up. But every time there's a failure, Republicans regress and they, they start attacking people who have actually tried to put together the ground games, the ballot chasing operations and then they, they, they, they, they put these unreasonable expectations on them and think just because they're doing it, that's going to carry the day. Meanwhile, they ignore all of the warnings about their message, about the agenda, about what's working, what's failing. Don't do this is not a good idea. You're going to turn off young voters. They think, they thought that they could ignore all of that and oh, don't worry, people are going to go out there and ballot chase. You know, I'll just call up Elon Musk and he'll throw some millions behind it. I mean it doesn't work that way. You need both signal, you need a message and you need to be have infrastructure on the ground that can then take care and harness the energy that that message has created. And people are understanding it can't be one or the other. It really has to be both. I remember and we actually showcased this guy on the show. I remember before 24 we were, it's late October and we were polling Pennsylvania, which we're tracking into the end and a voter in Philadelphia, this black man in Philadelphia, voted for Biden. It was telling us a story. They had been like the Obama game was on loan over there. Steve Harris had a ground game. I think a lot of people think this isn't true because she lost. She still had a better ground game. Her problem was that her message, her signal was, was trash. And this guy had us cracking up. He, they knocked on his door three times including in the weekend before the election and he would not fill his ballot in and he's yelling at them too don't you dare fill it in for me because I'm going to know we have a tracker in the state and I'm going to look. And he wouldn't do it. So no matter how many times Jim Messina and David Plough and all their organization knocked on his door, her signal was trash. So the ground game could not take advantage of that. So that's what happens. And I think, you know, there's, there's again, I don't want to say there's a void. Your turning point is going to be there. But you know, Charlie really did understand that and you had to build on that. And I just want to press that on people because I don't want them to forget you can't have one and not the other. You have to have both. And it has to be a little, it has to be much more sophisticated than what it is now. I got to tell you, you know, I'm going to make some, I'm going to make some people angry over the rnc. I really don't care. When there was all of these beautiful AI tools that are being designed especially for texting campaigns and a peer to peer reach out mms. Hilariously Steve, the AI that the RNC basically thought that the cool thing about the AI is that they wouldn't have to have live agents all the time texting all those people, they had no idea the harness, the true power of what that AI could do which was real time augment augmenting of your database which they suffer from latency issues badly. Right. They just, they didn't grasp it and it was a joke, it was an inside joke. That's the truth. And people laughed at them behind their back.
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What do you think? You know, Mark Mitchell's been a little bit of Cassandra over the last couple of days. Your thoughts on overarching themes that he's saying the hours late unless we take dramatic action and he's saying between now like when the CR to really not just roll out a messaging bill but to get some of Charlie's punch list done. Your thoughts?
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I agree with Mark 100%. And I got to tell you guys, if Trump turns the corner here and really course corrects the issue with that alone is that I don't see how that benefits the Republican Party. The Republican Party is if you think some voters are angry with or disappointed with the president for you do not want to see what they're saying about the Republican Party to, to these young voters particularly who weren't even flirting with them, I mean dating them they were more like flirting with them in 24. They have in their minds showed them what their priorities are and their priority was not them. So the Republican Party itself, as far as legislation in the form of legislation, has got to take action too. Otherwise what other benefit the president sees is going, you're going to be hard pressed to get it to trickle down ballot and benefit Republican candidates. They need dramatic reforms and they need to do it in a historic way because we know how this goes. You know, holidays are coming once we get past Thanksgiving and Christmas will be. Nobody will be doing anything. The new year comes and then when we come back after the new year Congress, they're professional feet draggers. They're professional stall agents. They do nothing that they view to be controversial or risky during an election season. That has to change. That mentality that is always in D.C. at the end of the president's first nine months in office, that has got to change. Otherwise Mark's right, they're done. If I could just give you the Two weeks ago, the generic ballot was only a few points in favor of Democrats in our polling. Steve, it's Democrat plus eight right now. They have to do something. A plus eight environment with this redistricting disaster that is going on for them. They will be wiped out.
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Out.
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They need.
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Yeah. You're saying that if they don't normally everybody just, everybody just hunkers down for the election. You're saying they got to be bold on policies now. Barris, where do people go to get.
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The people's pundit Best place where everywhere. We're on Getter X every best places on locals. Peoplespundant.locals.com peoplespundant.locals dot com Fantastic.
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Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.
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All the best.
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Steve.
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Dave, Bret just laid it out about the US Dollar getting beat up. He says President Trump's gotta come out and I agree with that. Just walk people through the hole that was dug for him by Biden and the action items he's taken, which I think have been pretty impressive so far. But I think everybody agree and he would agree not enough yet. Birchgold.com promo code go to birchgold.com promo code Bannon enter the Dollar Empire. Seven free installments, eighth on the way. But you can get pretty far up to speed on understanding it ain't the price of gold. It is the process of how is driven in gold. Dave Brat, we're going to lose. You're going to be with us after the break, but give us 30 seconds on your thoughts of having heard Andrew Colvette and Richard Barris.
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Yeah, everybody needs to put heat on the speaker. Speaker Johnson needs to come out with a contract with America with Thune on these short run issues that we can get done in several months. And if we don't do that, then it's all on them. President Trump can't lift.
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Yeah, well, a fantastic show today. I'll just tie a couple things together in addition to the dollar getting crushed, you know, I've been showing the chart with productivity going down for 70 years in a row. President Trump's doing everything right, bringing capital back into the country on that one. But I just wanted to bring up the AI story. I know you're probably going to dig into that later. Artificial intelligence, the headwinds to that, to the productivity growth. There is Robert Gordon again, the leading guy in the country, Northwestern. He's got four headwinds. I just want to list them off because these are pretty fascinating and they're the issues Colvat and others have mentioned. Number one, demographic trends. Two, educational quality. Right. Tying into the immigration issues that we don't have, quality education. Third, the debt problem and fourth, growing inequality. All of these are headwinds to artificial intelligence taking off the way some people think. I'm with Bob Gordon. I'd be a little skeptical on that until you fix this education problem for the bottom half of this country. They don't have a prayer. And so I hope Melania Trump and Barron and President Trump push a Bible reading initiative in the public schools. The left's heads will pop off their shoulders. Get the kids reading the Bible, bring about. You don't need to force it in the curriculum. Just bring a Bible to school and have the churches teaching the kids how.
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To read the kjv, do the King James Bible. I know, I know. All my Catholic brethren are all over. They're all over me already every time I say that. Brad, where do people go to get you? I'm going to talk about AI, a $5 trillion capital build out for data centers and energy. And that doesn't take the water. They're going to suck out of all the aquifers from Texas all the way to the Pac ocean. What's your, what's your social media, Brett?
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Yeah, and the taxpayers are going to pay some of that bill. So that's a shocker. But yeah. Brad, Economics on Getter and X. Yeah.
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They have us penciled in. They have, they have his penciled in. They have us penciled in for a trillion dollars with no war. I don't see the warrant package. They left that out. I don't see, I don't see their ownership of the equity. We'll get to that, Brad. Thank you. Tom Simon. You a street agent for the FBI? For 26 years, brother. I thought after a couple of years they took you guys and put you in management. What happened to you?
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G
I'm just not management material. I've been an investigator my whole adult life and so I have no other skills.
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Well, listen, this is why we got you on this morning, Natalie Dominguez and the team over home title lock. I'm telling people in today's environment with artificial intelligence, cyber rogue accountants, rogue lawyers, you got to be so careful on this. What do you got for us today?
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G
I want to tell you a story about 89 year old Dorothy Tarpon of Louisville, Kentucky. She was in a nursing home, but she still owned her house, which is, which was full of her stuff. It was just vacant. There was a bad guy in the story named Russell Cheatham, and believe it or not, that was his real name. He went into the county clerk's office and filed a quitclaim deed to transfer ownership of Dorothy's house from Dorothy to him without Dorothy's permission or knowledge. So then he ends up becoming the owner of Dorothy's house, at least on paper. Then he begins going to Dorothy's house and moving this stuff out. The neighbors notice they called Dorothy's family and they confront the guy while he's like moving the stuff out to the street and, and he's like, oh, no, no, no. The lady who owned this house is dead and I bought the house from her. And they're like, what are you talking about? Aunt Dorothy's in a nursing home down the street. She's square dancing, she's playing bingo. You know, this is her still her house. They call the cops, they arrest this Cheatham guy for identity theft and fraud. But the problem is this, that even after the police can do what they're going to do to him, the family is still stuck with the cost associated with restoring that home back into Dorothy's name. So I wish that family had home title lock because they have a restoration team based here in the US that would do that for her.
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Here's the thing, Tom. It's the angst, the anxiety, the opportunity, caution. This audience is so powerful because they go to the ramparts all the time fighting for policies, fighting for politicians, for maga, for President Trump. You can't do that if something like this happens to your house. Either somebody gets it and sells it, or I think almost as bad, somebody takes a big Second out from a hard money lender and all you're doing is worry about it. That's your whole life. Your whole life is tied up into getting that right. Plus you're going to bleed cash out because nobody's there to back you up. And for pennies a day, you can take that care away, sir.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Home Title lock promo code. Steve, that's where you go today. Tom, thank you so much for joining us. That's a horrible story. Get us motivated today. So thank you, sir. Appreciate you.
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G
Thanks for having me on. Steve.
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26 years of street agent, my kind of guy does not qualify for higher management. Amazing. Claire Dooley, thank you for doing this. And you're gonna, we're gonna have you back tomorrow. You're doing some analytics on what happened yesterday. Here's the thing. Our audience is so focused on being part of Make America Healthy Again. You had a huge conference yesterday. A group of all stars. Tony Lyons and his team was over there. What? Just walk us through briefly because I know you're doing a write up about it, but I want to get people in here while. Because you know, it wasn't. We didn't have the ability like we love streaming. We love whether it's a children's health defense. I got rave reviews when I was out of pocket last weekend about you and just the folks down there. So what do you got for us? What happened yesterday?
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Yeah, so I mean, this is coming on the back of the Children's Health Defense conference last weekend where we saw this was kind of the movement of the grassroots.
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F
You were.
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The movement of the grassroots yesterday was not grassrooting. That was not. That wasn't even grass tops.
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D
When you talk about the difference between the energy in the room. Right. The kind of folks that were in the room. So we're going from Children's Health Defense conference this weekend to the MAHA Summit, which was put on by MAHA Action and a couple other different collaborators. This was where we really kind of watching the biotech industry have a seat at the table. And this is something that I think some people may have a problem with. But from my perspective, sitting in the room talking with the people I talk to, the kind of World we want to build with MAHA is a world of science where we don't silence people. Right? We just win by having a better argument. So we allow these kinds of people into the room. It doesn't mean that we have to agree with them. It just means that, you know, we can have a discussion. We can talk about the way to move forward. So we saw people like the CEO of crispr.
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Oh, my God. Yeah, you're already stopping. You already hit me upside down. Let me just pull back for a second. One, I think the reasons that. And correct me if I'm wrong, because you've been doing this for a lot longer than I have. One of the reasons I think that Maha has grasped the imagination of the American people. And one of the reasons I think that Bobby Kennedy has become kind of an icon on the political right, but can bridge it with a lot of the Maha people that are not with us on other topics and Nicole Shanahan that they're talking about, you know, the food we eat. We have to totally rethink the health system in this country. And it gets back to the individual and how we make the individual healthy through smart choices and what's available in, you know, the soil, like in the agricultural part, better food, all of it. Putting it back on individuals, but making sure you have total information, you know, exactly what's going on. My concern about some of the biotech is that that's like a hack or cheat sometimes, right? It's a hack or a cheat. And just coming on, you know, Stephanie Rule.
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G
Excuse me.
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Stephanie Rule did this magnificent piece on the secret efforts to really build a genetic child. And of course, the Coinbase guy wanted to just. Anderson wanted to shock the world into acceptance by dropping the baby, you know, into the world. So when the first thing you mentioned. Oh, we had the CEO, crispr. She knows how to pull my chain. Just want to mention crispr.
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D
I just wanted to throw that one in there first.
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So was it yesterday? Was it. Is it biotech trying to do this in what the basic principles of MAHA are? Or do you have a feeling that they see this movement growing and as a populist movement based upon people and how they really want to have, you know, these big pharmaceuticals, big medical. They have a fair shot and big ag. They have a fair shot to actually live healthy and not have stuff forced on them? Or do you think it's just a lobbyist telling them, hey, if you don't get into this movement now, this thing's going to get so big and so powerful, you're not. You're going to be dialed out, right?
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D
Absolutely. I think that they're looking to have a pulse on what the grassroots are actually saying. So whenever it comes to yesterday, let's talk about. Obviously, I was bringing up crispr. They actually have a treatment for sickle cell disease. Right. So I actually asked one of the parents that were there who had a son who had been treated with this technology, and I said, hey, I mean, look, I get that they're using it to treat sickle cell, but what about when it gets into, hey, we're going to have designer babies, we're going to choose the eye colors? And he said, listen, I don't care about that. What matters to me is that my son is healthy now. Right. So I think that's part of.
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Isn't that how they always lead in, like, the chip, you know, neuralink is always going to lead? Because it's interesting, you mentioned sickle cell the other night. They had, you know, had a couple of people about this designer baby on Stephanie Ruhle. And the first thing the guy said is that, well, look, hey, what these. What this effort in genetic engineering is, first is to take care of some of the immediate problems we have, like sickle cell. I mean, it was the very first example he uses. Don't they, in a very smart way, use that as kind of the, you know, and to get, by the way, the parents that want to take care of this. Absolutely. They're concerned about it. And you've seen these other, you know, problems at birth. People are concerned about it. But isn't that a way kind of to, you know, pat you on the head of. What they really want to do is get to genetic engineering.
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D
Right? Genetic engineering. And we get into, you know, there are some topics covered yesterday about gene sequencing. And one of the panels, you know, one of the experts quite literally said, you know, we would love to sequence every person's genome, run it through an AI so that we can, you know, better treat them. This is something that at maha, I.
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Was it a little quiet when you said that?
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D
Right, exactly.
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I would love him to go to Children's Health Defense down in Austin in front of those thousand.
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D
He'd probably get booed a good bit. But that's the point of the MAHA summit, right. Is that we're giving industry to the table. Right? So if a pharmaceutical company wanted to come and talk to us about making America healthy again, we would allow them to. But they're not coming to the table. These are the kinds of folks that are Coming to the table. And it doesn't mean that we.
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Have you seen that? Because I do hear that there's a lot of outreach to Bobby and that he's working on certain things with Big Pharma. Realizes this is just not going to go away, that you really have created a movement. Right. And so it's just not about one election cycle. But something's happening. Do you still get the feeling. And I'm gonna hold you through the break to the next one. You've done so great here. You've upset me so much in the first, you know, she's, she looks very, she looks very angelic. She's got the little baby. Looks very angelic. By the way, great photo in the New York Times. First thing. Oh yeah, you know, the CRISPR guys were here. Did I mention that? And then the genome, the gene sequencing. Do you think that whether it's the genetic engineering or big Pharma that they understand that you guys are fairly quasi permanent and they got to take you and drive you in a certain direction?
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They know that we're not going away, but I don't think that they're disillusioned that, you know, they can control us in any way or any means. And I think it's mainly just about pharma. The current system is profiting off of sick people, whereas biotech is coming in and they're saying, hey, we can profit off of making people healthier. It doesn't mean that we have to go along with it doesn't mean that we have to opt in for these treatments. But I also think it's just important to have the conversation right. I mean, at Maha it's about diet, lifestyle and nutrition.
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But give us that again.
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D
At Maha it's about diet, lifestyle and nutrition. But these are people who are talking more about preventative treatments, which could be a good alternative.
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Yeah, so, you know, I just wanted to kind of set the scene of what the conference really was and we can talk more about it tomorrow. I'll do a write up and send it out to you guys. But for me, being a documentary Filmmaker the past 10 years, I've dedicated my career, I've dedicated my life to vaccination injury. That's an issue that will never be erased and will never go away when you have a conversation like this. At the MAHA Summit yesterday, I actually just wanted to read out to you guys a couple names of the panels that there were. So we had Food is medicine. Transformation at nih. When we talked about transformation at NIH with Jay Bhattacharya, he had a lot of really great points, one of which is that $50 million is being invested and you know, discovering the causes of autism. The, the Autism Strategic Initiative. You had discussions about psychedelic medicine and mental health. I mean these are kind of, that's.
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A big thing that's coming, right? Fda, the future on that for decades.
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D
Working on it for decades. And I actually, I ended up missing that panel.
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I tested PTSD on, on, on army veterans, et cetera. Some serious research there.
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D
And what, what are your thoughts on that? I mean, you think that I haven't helpful or.
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I think it's something ought to be pursued, right? It definitely pursued. These are the types of things I think this is why people look to make America healthy again is you're open to ideas. But let's get to the. What does Bobby say? He says platinum level science. I think it's aggressive, but you have to have platinum level science. Most people say, oh, psychedelics and you know, brain injury. There's some very interesting research. I'm not an expert, but it's at least come out of the, out of the. Being marginal and get into the heart of these things because you've got to make some changes. The system we have is not sustainable. Right. So it has to be some radical changes. What are you going to base the radical changes on? I hope we're not going to just defer to technology or biotech.
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Right.
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That we're going to go back to the American spirit and do things of research and what are we going to do and self reliance and all that. I think we do that will make America healthy again.
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Absolutely. I mean, I think one of my documentaries was actually called Beyond Human. I featured Joe Allen, your guy in it and we kind of held this discussion in the documentary about, you know, what's coming soon with transhumanism. Right. The merging of humans and machines and all these scary ideas, scary things that we're saying. I mean even earlier when I mentioned, you know, that someone had said that, oh, we want to DNA sequence you, run it through an AI. I mean, these are scary statements we're making. But I think the important thing is at Maha, we stand with informed consent. Informed consent.
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And we're not trying medical freedom with informed consent.
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Right. Informed consent means you go to the doctor, you get a treatment, they actually tell you the true benefits and the true risks and you as the patient can make that choice. We don't want to Take away someone's choice to vaccinate. We don't want to take away someone's choice if they do want to have a gene therapy or whatever that thing is. And we also want to facilitate that conversation. So what we've seen in science for the past 40 years is that, you know, the side that has acknowledged vaccine injury, who have been trying to do vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies, they have been completely, quote, unquote, debunked and put on the fringe of things. And with us moving forward, the MAHA movement, when it comes to science, we don't want to do that. Right. So we allowed biotech companies to have a seat at the table. Let's talk about what you're doing, and as the people, we can hear what you have to say, say and decide if we like it or not.
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I think that's important in this movement because if you rule it out at first, you're looked at as a Luddite, and we're not Luddites. You guys are. Got some of the most cutting edge, you know, Jay Bakhtari and these guys are some of the most cutting edge. We gotta bounce. What's your social media tomorrow? You're gonna write all this up tomorrow, and then you're gonna have something that really blows my head up tomorrow. Cause I'll read it tonight. I'll get the scoop. Where do people go?
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The full scoop. Yes. I'll see you guys tomorrow. You can go to Claire Dooley Film. Sign up for my email list, and I'll send out that write up for you guys as well. And Steve, let's make America healthy again.
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Let's make it healthy. And by the way, thank you for last weekend. Shows were great. People were. Loved it. I got a lot of feedback. And so we've got to do that again.
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D
Thank you.
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Gotta get you in here in the. In the rotation, right? A filmmaker thing's been great. It's a great run. But you might have. You might have. You might have a future as a podcaster or a news person.
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D
So, hey, whatever you say is Steve.
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No, Just give him guidance. Mike Lindell, the floor is yours, brother. What do you got for us, you guys?
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