Bannon’s War Room

Episode 4928: Georgia Appoints A New Attorney Against Trump; Wagging The Dog With Venezuela
Date: November 15, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon

Overview

In this episode of Bannon’s War Room, host Steve Bannon leads a high-octane discussion with a rotating panel of MAGA figures on two central issues: the latest shifts in the Georgia election case against Donald Trump and his allies after the disqualification of DA Fani Willis, and the growing U.S. military activity off the coast of Venezuela, framed as part of a hemispheric struggle with left-wing regimes. Key guests include Christina Bobb, Alex Bruesewitz, and Rep. Matt Gaetz, who together analyze ongoing legal battles, intra-GOP conflicts, and the high-stakes maneuvering in Latin America.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Georgia Election Interference Case Update

Main Theme: The legal fight over 2020 election interference charges against Trump and allies faces a new chapter after the removal of DA Fani Willis.

The Change in Prosecutor and Case Status

• Lisa Rubin (00:00): Explains that after Fani Willis's disqualification due to "appearance of impropriety," Peter Skandakoulos, chair of Georgia’s Prosecuting Council, has appointed himself to potentially take over the case.
  • "Among the options for Peter Scandaklis...not only reviving the case, but choosing not to revive the case."
  • Key choice ahead: whether to move forward with prosecution or dismiss.
• Discovery & Pretrial Motions: The case had finished discovery; many motions were already decided, including dismissals for John Eastman and Shawn Still on certain charges.
• Pardon Complications: Trump recently pardoned many involved in the fake electors scheme, but presidential pardons do not apply to state cases.
  • "Constitutionally, the President has no power to pardon anyone for a state crime." (Lisa Rubin, 02:59)

State vs. Federal Jurisdiction

• "His [Trump's] position here is that these pardons are justifiable because these aren’t in fact state crimes. They are federal crimes..." (Rubin, ~03:00)
• Potential arguments will emerge whether state-level prosecutions violate federal jurisdiction over elections.

In-Studio Analysis

• Christina Bobb & Steve Bannon (05:06–14:18):
  • Express skepticism that Skandakoulos really wants to push the case forward; speculate dismissal is possible.
  • Bobb: "There was no other sitting prosecutor who wanted to actually take this case...He took it on apparently because there was no district attorney or AG or anybody else that wanted to inherit this turd of a case." (05:29)
  • Status hearing set for December 1st.

Pardons' Limited Impact

• "Everybody's like kind of leaning on their shovel now because it said, hey, all the electors got pardoned. That has no bearing on this state case, correct?"
  • Bobb: "Yeah, I mean, in Arizona...they're going to go down in Georgia, they're going to go even harder here, are they not?" (07:54–08:02)
  • Presidential pardons do not affect state charges; defense may argue the charges themselves should have been federal.

2. Broader GOP Legal, Political, and Electoral Strategy

“RINOs”, Redistricting, & Party Discipline

Conversation with Alex Bruesewitz (16:43–26:53):

• "What's happening? We have Republicans that still have no idea what time it is..." (Bruesewitz, 16:55)
• In Indiana, Republican leadership is accused of stalling redistricting, risking a lost opportunity post-Trump's 2024 victory and amid Democratic seat gains in California.
• Bannon: "We have a mandate. We have the House, we have the Senate... You're never, ever going to have this moment in time again." (23:04)
• Bruesewitz calls for primarying “RINOs” (Republicans In Name Only) ("We need to be taking a very strong look at primaring every single RINO senator that is standing in our way on this effort, 100%." - 20:19)
• Christina Bobb echoes: "If they don't take the opportunity that America gave them...the tables will be turned and they will be targets." (20:19)

Voter Motivation and Party Messaging

• Discuss the need for the party to energize the MAGA base and drive turnout, especially in midterms.
• Bruesewitz: "The only reason Republicans are in...is because of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement." (21:25)
• Warning: weak GOP action may depress turnout and empower Democrats in 2026.

Notable Exchange:

• Bannon: "We’re at war. This is a political war." (26:55)
• Christina Bobb: "Oh, I don't think they care. I actually think there's a large part of whether the Republican Party or people in politics that are fine getting rid of those of us..." (27:04)

3. U.S. Show of Force in Venezuela and Hemispheric Geopolitics

Feature Interview: Rep. Matt Gaetz from El Salvador (28:58–41:11)

U.S. Naval Activity & Regional Stakes

• Bannon: Details U.S. military build-up near Venezuela—a carrier and marine group (28:58).
• Gaetz frames the situation as a struggle between leftist regimes (Cuba, Venezuela, Colombia, Honduras) and "populist nationalist" leaders (El Salvador’s Bukele, others).
  • "Latin America is totally up for grabs." (Gaetz, 29:28)
• U.S. objective: potentially force Maduro (Venezuela) from power, ideally via divided military, not direct intervention.
  • "My sources tell me...the battle over Venezuela may not even have to go kinetic...the United States is able to force Maduro into a number of decisions." (29:28)

Congressional Reception and Monroe Doctrine Redux

• Gaetz: "There is very strong support on Capitol Hill for the operations you are currently seeing to take out narco traffickers..." (32:16)
• Advocates for focusing on Western Hemisphere, referencing a new “Monroe Doctrine 2.0.”
  • "With populist nationalist leaders like Nayib Bukele rising...an opportunity to defeat the left." (32:16)

Outcome Scenarios and Political Implications

• Gaetz predicts Maduro's negotiated departure as a likely scenario:
  • "I actually think one of the most likely scenarios here is Maduro’s departure. He takes some of the billions he’s stolen..." (37:34)
• U.S. needs to focus on domestic issues but also respond forcefully to Democratic electoral maneuvers (specifically Newsom's recent actions in California).

4. Judicial Watch Investigations & Lawfare

Christina Bobb’s Legal Activism (44:14–51:14):

• Bobb shares her whistleblower complaint against Arizona AG Kris Mayes, highlighting use of outside Democratic legal groups in prosecution.
  • "She brought in an organization called States United Democracy Center to help prosecute us...they say that States United is part of the prosecution team." (44:38)
• Alleges conflicts of interest via DAGA funding (Democratic Attorneys General Association) directly connecting to the prosecution of 2020 alternate electors.

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Lisa Rubin (legal analyst):
  • "Constitutionally, the President has no power to pardon anyone for a state crime." (02:59)
• Christina Bobb (on Georgia prosecution):
  • "He [Skandakoulos] took it on apparently because there was no district attorney or AG or anybody else that wanted to inherit this turd of a case." (05:29)
  • "I don't know, it looks fishy to me." (46:18, re: DAGA money and Chris Mays)
• Alex Bruesewitz (on GOP fecklessness):
  • "You win by being ruthless, and you win by fighting and showing courage. You don’t win by being a feckless loser. That’s the party of the past." (17:13)
• Steve Bannon (on missed opportunity):
  • "You’re never, ever going to have this moment in time again." (23:04)
• Matt Gaetz (on Venezuela):
  • "Latin America is totally up for grabs." (29:28)
  • "I care a lot more about what’s going on in the Gulf of America than I do the Black Sea." (32:16)
  • "The key coalition that elected President Trump were people under the age of 39 who were low and no propensity voters." (39:16)

Important Timestamps & Segments

• Georgia Prosecution Update: 00:00–03:22 (Lisa Rubin)
• Bannon/Bobb Analysis (Georgia & Pardons): 05:06–14:18
• Redistricting & GOP Infighting: 16:43–26:53 (feat. Alex Bruesewitz)
• Matt Gaetz on Venezuela & Monroe Doctrine: 28:58–41:11
• Christina Bobb Discusses Judicial Watch Whistleblower Complaint: 44:14–46:23
• Book Plug and Final Reflections: 49:19–51:14

Memorable Moments

• “They are evil, demonic. They’re trying to come after you guys—the white hats...”
  (Bannon, 14:18)
• Celebratory/behind-the-scenes banter about UFC events, team logistics, and co-host roles, lending a casual, team-spirited energy.
• Urgent “call to action” to War Room listeners: contact legislators, prepare for primaries, and “identify the RINOs.”

Conclusion

Episode 4928 offers War Room’s audience a combative, inside-MAGA look at the latest legal skirmishes over the 2020 election, the state-versus-federal prosecution puzzle, and the evolving tactics of both the MAGA movement and its opponents in Congress and beyond. The show blends fiery rhetoric, strategic legal analysis, appeals to grassroots action, and real-time geopolitics—all in Bannon’s signature war footing and mobilization tone.