
Episode 4930: Visions Of Hemispheric Defense And What That Means With Venezuela ...
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Saturday 15th November Year Overlord 2025 I've got up now. Elizabeth has gotten up for me. I think she's got up on getter I just approved. It's a story from Reuters about Scott Bessant giving an interview, I believe it is, and talking about the Treasury Department made a lot of money on this swap deal they did in Argentina. The concept, and we'll get into more of this next week of moral hazard is something that because you're going to get this on AI and all of it moral hazard, this concept. We'll drill down more of it next week. I think it's more than a philosophical. It's also kind of a practical financial decision. We'll get into that. Ben Harnwell, you'll look at this article. Posos on a train they're heading up. Benny Johnson and Posoba are going to go to this UFC fight tonight. They're taking 3,000. Charlie Kirk, the Turning Point USA those magnificent freedom T shirts up there to share. So it's gonna be quite an event. I'm sure we get tons of footage. We're gonna get posto in a moment. He's on, I think the Acela heading to New York City from the Washington D.C. area. We'll get to him in a moment. Brandon Weickert. Brandon, your books. You've got a magnificent book on biohacking. You got a great book on the Moodle's in Iran and the whole Persian situation space. I tell people if you want a practical book on a topic of geopolitics, I think you're one of the best writers out there because you don't put a lot of flourish to it. You just get right to the facts and you lay it out. I wanted to get you on this morning because I know you've been very Interested. We've been talking now for months that you're very interested in. Focus on what I would call The Monroe Doctrine 2.0 or President Trump's historic pivot to hemispheric defense.
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Yes.
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Now walk me through the architecture of that pivot, why it's important to the America first and MAGA movement. And then we're going to drill down on the details about Venezuela, because I know you've got not not concerns, but I think you've got a very practical way looking at. We got Brandy, Bradley Thayer has got a little different take on it, but we're get some different opinions this morning. Brandon Weickert, the floor is yours, sir.
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Well, thank you, Steve, as always, for having me. It's a pleasure to be here. The repositioning of the US grand strategy. This is something that Trump is masterminding with his team, including Hegseth and Bridge Colby, who's one of the bright stars, in my opinion, which is why they're trying to take Bridge out. But they basically, since the summer been working on a new national security strategy that would reorient our forces away from focusing on European area of command, the Middle east, even the Indo Pacom area, to prioritizing Western hemispheric defense. The administration has been talking about actually getting rid of africom. There was one conversation that happened over the summer about that and merging it with eucom, which is European Command, and then deprioritizing CENTCOM so that we can send those resources to Northern and Southern Command. Those are the areas. And the reason is because the post Cold War unipolar era of America running the world has been over for a while now. It's just we didn't get the memo. And so Trump has recognized this and he's reprioritizing our base, that is our hemisphere, the way that Russia's prioritizing their hemisphere, the way that the Chinese. Chinese are prioritizing their hemisphere because the world is now tripolar. It is three powers that are competing with many other powers rising behind it. And if you don't secure your own home front, that includes Latin America, South America and the polar regions, you don't have security at all. And right now, the Chinese are crawling all over South America. You talked about Argentina. I had on my show last night, national security Talk on Rumble. Dr. Elizabeth Buchanan, who is the leading, she's a good friend. She's the leading expert on the polar region regions. She's down in Australia and she was talking about how the Chinese in Antarctica have basically taken over Antarctica and they're building an archipelago of islands into Argentina. Argentina's ports have been conquered by the Chinese. They're civilian ports. We let it happen over the last decade and they basically have been encroaching on our hemisphere through not only traditional means, but also from the South Pole. People don't think about this. So bailing out My Lai, while I'm a higher tax bracket, I don't like giving anybody money. But ultimately, this was a smart move because we're bailing out Argentina and we're making sure a Marxist doesn't take over there. The kind of Marxists who've been taking over.
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Well, as long as. Hang on. As long as we get a situation on the soybeans and the beef and the ports, that CCP is out. That is, I'm hearing that's going on, but that's got. When you say strategic, that's got to happen. While you're on that topic, this is the guys in Canada. What President Trump's argument to Canada is. And they just kind of blew it off. But when he talks about defense.
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Yeah.
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What he's making the point on the Arctic is that Canada is kind of like Ukraine. Right. The Chinese and the Russians are up there and they see the undefended northern territories of Canada, they're going to take a bite. The Canadians got to understand something.
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They already are.
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They're going to intrude in your territory and they're going to dare you to do anything about it and you're going to turn to Big brother. Go ahead.
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We're getting. Alberta is the linchpin. So when Trump says Canada is going to be the 51st state, he's speaking, you know, he's vamping, he's having a little fun. But what he's really saying, cuz I know a lot of the guys in charge of the Albertan separatist movement or their prosperity movement, Alberta, they've already met twice now with the State Department. The Albertans are ready to vote in the next six months. They're getting out of the Canadian Union. They're gonna become an independent state, independent country. We're gonna recognize them and that's gonna put them on the pathway to becoming the 51st state. And here's why that's important. Alberta has a bevy of untapped rare earth. They have the world's largest geothermal energy sources. They have the world, some of the world's largest natural gas and oil deposits. So when Trump says Canada is becoming the 50s first state, he's really talking about Alberta. And that's important because that's a gateway to the Arctic. Greenland is another gateway to the Arctic. So when we talk about hemispheric defense, we're not just talking about Latin America. We're talking about the polar regions too, Steve, and how they all link together.
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How? Give me your thoughts on Right now we have our most sophisticated carrier with its with not a full strike for us, but enough to get your attention. Plus an amphibious ready group with I think 3,000 fleet marines and a thousand sailors off of Venezuela. And so far, we shot up some speedboats with drug coming, with drugs coming up, and we've taken them out. But the briefings on Capitol Hill are much deeper than this. Right. They're edging up right to the War Powers act and make sure that there's not gonna be any hangups. As you see it right now, strategically, what is going on with President Trump and his thinking on Venezuela?
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Well, it's very interesting. You know, President Trump is the dealmaker in chief and everywhere you look, he's cutting deals. He was offered a deal going into Labor Day weekend. I know, cuz I know one of the men who was the intermediary for the negotiations, he was offered a deal that basically Maduro said, if you give me a boatload of money and an exit visa to my country of choice, I will leave and give you exclusive access to the rare earth mineral deposits, the natural gas, the oil of Venezuela. Just don't kill me. Trump said no. He said, I'm not gonna take that deal. I'm gonna put a force off your coast. I think Trump is trying to take Maduro out and I think this has to do with the 2020 election. I talked to a guy named Ralph Pizzula who has a book called the Stolen Election out and he is con that Trump believes that Smartmatic was a Venezuelan company and that they rigged the 2020 election. So this very well could be Trump a revenge play. He wants to also assert our dominance in the region, but he's going to take out Maduro for what he thinks was the, you know, the great 2020 steal.
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Hang on. You used a very interesting term and it's the first time I've heard it regarding hemispheric defense. You used the term dominance. Walk me through that. President Trump, full spectrum energy dominance is the basis of the turnaround of the American economy.
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That's right.
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Okay.
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That's right.
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When President Trump is looking at this, and this is why Bridge Colby. Bridge Colby, who says, hey, we've got to compete in East Asia we have to make sure that we stop the CCP threat. We gotta use the Central Pacific as our pivot. But he's a hemisphere guy. Politico, I don't know if my team has a. Politico has a story that they're coming for the scalp. The neocons are coming for the scalp of Bridge Colby. They think because they want to put.
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Tom Cotton in the Secretary of Defense's position.
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They want to put Tom Cotton.
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Cotton, yeah.
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They have Dan, two great. Our Secretary of the Army, Dan Driscoll and Bridge Colby think like the war room and think like the America first movement. We got to be strong. In fact, we got to be, you know, super strong. But we're not interventionists unless there's some emergency that has to be intervened. Colby and Driscoll are coming up with strategies of that. The neocons are going crazy. They want to insert Tom Cotton into. Or Tom Cotton or Lindsey Graham type person that's, you know, all wars, all the time, everywhere on the. Particularly on the Eurasian landmass. They want to double and triple down in Ukraine and in the Middle east. They want to take down. They want to be in Tehran, they want to. They want to be in Kiev. Right. Fighting the Russians, fighting the mullahs, all of it. And they're bound and determined to turf bridge Colby out. So what's your assessment with President Trump this term? Focus on the term dominance. When he looks at hemispheric defense, this is Trumpian. He's looking for dominance in the Western hemisphere.
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Sir, it's 100% correct if you listen to what he's been saying since he was elected, whether it's about Canada, Greenland or the Panama Canal. And in the case of Venezuela and in Colombia, this is also about getting our people in a position where we can basically put the squeeze on Panama so we can finally get the Panamanians to agree to give us back the canal so we can kick the Chinese out, because the Chinese have basically taken over the Canal Zone. And so when we talk about dominance, what we're really talking about is controlling the choke points in our hemisphere, Panama Canal being the big one, but we also want to control the Caribbean Sea basin. We also, like I said, want to have access to the South China Pole through Argentina. We want to rebuff China's advances through that region. So. And we want to control the Greenland access as well. So what we're talking about is a. Is a hemispheric defense, hemispheric dominance strategy where we control the major arteries of the region. Of the entire hemisphere, north to south and everything in between. And so Trump is focusing so far on these big arteries that we can control and go from there. Because if we don't build the foundation in our own hemisphere, there's no competing with. Look, China has already taken the first island chain. Basically, they're already meddling in the second island chain. Like I said, I talked to Dr. Buchanan.
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Hang on, hang on, hang on, man. You're in the anti hangover. So before you get to the island chains.
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Okay, sorry.
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Some people are going to say, hey, look, I love the way you started about the Islamic problem in Texas and in New York City. You had me there. But now you got. And I would love to kill the, you know, stop the cartels and the fentanyl coming through the southern border. But when you say America first, the vision you're laying out is much broader than that. It goes literally from the Antarctic in Argentina and that horrific sea pass that you get from the Atlantic to the Pacific, still the most horrible in the world, all the way up to the Arctic Circle in Canada. You got the Pacific, the pivot in the Pacific. You're biting off a lot that doesn't feel America first. Give me the argument why your argument and many in the Trump administration say, no, you're wrong. This is America first, to be clear.
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Clear. I am very concerned about military action as well in Venezuela. But I will tell you, I'm not advocating for military. I'm advocating for using economic and diplomatic power to get the locals to start playing ball with us rather than China and Russia and Iran. That is the key, and we're so far doing that. The Argentina model is a great model. What we're doing also, the Panamanians are quietly negotiating with us again. So it's working. It's working.
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Brother. Hang on for one second. William.
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Yeah, I'm here.
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Well, Steve, in the war room posse. For anyone who's in the Madison Square Garden area tonight around 5 o', clock, we are going to be out there with Benny Johnson, Tony Bobulinski, Tanya, Ted, and we are going to be handing out 3,000 of the Charlie Kirk Freedom shirts to the attendees completely for free of the UFC 322 tonight.
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So what happens? These are people that you're going to be inside Madison Square Garden early for the UFC event. I think it starts at seven or something on. It's going to be on ESPN tonight. You're going to be there early as attendees come in to give everybody one of those magnificent white freedom T shirts.
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Well, Steve, that's right. And the goal of course is that we want to get these up on camera. We want people to show the support. We know there's a lot of proud and great Americans that go to ufc. We love the ufc. Americans and people have to remember too, not only is this a show for media, but don't forget these are those types of low prop voters that Farley always urged us to maintain a relationship with.
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I noticed you got Tony coming today. Is it? You're putting forward like the all Polish team here. What is Tony joining you guys for?
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Oh, Steve, it's the Pierogi gang. What are you talking about? So you got me, you got Tanya Tay, you got Tony Bobulinski. The Pierogi gang is getting back together. Benny Johnson is going to be an honorary member of the Pierogi gang. We're going to serve him pierogies. The gumpy that figs in the blanket, the kabasi. It's going to be fantast.
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Now is Benny, you and Benny are gonna be streaming this live because I know Benny streams everything live, but is he going to be streaming this tonight? Because we want to make sure everybody, we're going to pick it up on our getter in our, in our rumble platforms. Are you guys going to be doing that? At what time will you be doing it?
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It'll be doing that, I believe around 5:30. Turning point as well is going to have people there. So we're going to be filming it, we're going to be making videos, we're going to be meeting with people who are there coming into the event. And I think it's going to be a great time. We're also, of course, working with the police department. Mayor Eric Adams has been very supportive, by the way. So for at least the next couple of months, while we have an American mayor, we can get that kind of police support that we need to keep everybody safe.
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No, this is, I think it's fantastic. We opened up talking about New York and Texas and this problem with Islam or the Islamification. What I love is you guys are going to the heart of it now. Beast as a Ugandan starts to take over from Mayor Adams and you go into the UFC crowd, which, as you know, you couldn't get more MAGA than a UFC crowd.
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Right?
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But you guys aren't backing off. You're taking turning point and going right into the heart of the beast.
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Look, Steve Mandami may have won the election, but I don't think he's won the soul of New York City. And as a proud member of what I like to call the urban right, we are not going to give up our cities. We're just not going to do it.
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Jack, last thing I know you've got a lot of thoughts and it's tough to do it on a train by phone, but can you just give us a minute or two on your thoughts? We're talking about, we've pivoted now. Talk about Latin America. You see this big scandal in the Ukraine that President Trump is going to, I'm sure, talk to Zelenskyy about there's a lot happening in Israel, this whole dividing line in Gaza, it looks like we're putting forward a plan to divide Gaza to the UN And I didn't see, I saw all Muslim, Arabic, Turks, countries, but I didn't see Israel mentioned. But Latin America, something looks like it's going to happen the next 72 to 90 hours. Your thoughts?
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Well, Steve, look, we've got the USS Ford, that's 5,000American sailors aboard, our most capable, our most advanced, our most expensive, the most advanced aircraft carrier platform on the face of the planet and on the seven seas. And that is there to exert full spectrum dominance and hemispheric dominance on not just Venezuela, not just the Caribbean, but the entire Western Hemisphere. So this dominance, that's the term that you and I came up with earlier this morning while we were speaking via phone. And look, we're not, we're not in the business of regime change, war. We don't support those things. That's not, we want, but we do want to remind everyone is that the United States is turning its eye away from thousands of miles away from every conflict around the planet, every podunk dictator and saying, you know something? It's time that we pay attention to our neighborhood. It's time we pay attention to the Gulf of America. It's time we pay attention to what's going on directly next to our homeland. And that means those, those sea lines of communication, those blocks, those choke points in and around the continental north, the continent of North America. And that's of course as, as, as Ben was talking about, Brandon. The Panama Canal, the GI UK Gap, Greenland. That's what it's all about. And down to South America and the South Pole as well, and of course the North Pole. So we've got, we've got to rebuild Fortress America on the sea and on the land.
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Jack Basoba, can you give your coordinates? 5 to 5:30 today. It'll kick off Eastern Standard Time. You got Benny Johnson, you got Tanya Tay, you got Tony Bobulinski, you've got D. Jack Posobic, Turning Point usa. They're going to the heart of the beast Madison Square Garden to partner up and to meet and greet the UFC fans and to hand out 3000 freedom t shirts Charlie Kirk so memorably wore on the day of his assassination. Where do they go? Jack, what are your coordinates?
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Well that's Steve. That's right. We'll be up at Jack Posobic and I, I echo by the way, what you said about the scandal in Ukraine. We've been talking about the, the corruption in Ukraine since day one of this war. And we see what's going on down there in Cross. They want to turn into a mass grave because Alinsky is trying to do everything he can to wag the dog and draw attention away from this massive scandal. But there it's all been scandals.
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Unbelievable. Jack, we'll see you at 5530 today. We'll have you up on getter. All of our platforms rumble. All of it. Thank you, sir. Jack Posobic. Thayer, give me your counter. I don't want to talk about the first island chain. Now that's a topic for a different day. And we got to go more in depth. But you have I think a little different take on what President Trump's doing with the carrier strike force and the amphibious ready group off of Latin America.
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Sir.
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Well Steve, great to join you this morning. I think the.
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Sure.
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What the Ford group is doing is signaling of course to Venezuela, as Brandon has mentioned and Jack mentioned Of course, that's very important to signal to Mondero that this could escalate in a way that's not favorable to his interests. But I see what President Trump is doing is really adding his own corollary to the Monroe Doctrine. Steve. Monroe Doctrine said, of course, we're not going to allow Europeans to interfere in the Western Hemisphere. Roosevelt added a corollary in 1904 where he said the US might use military force to keep the Europeans out. What President Trump is doing is adding his own corollary to Monroe, where he's saying he's not going to tolerate foreign powers, whether they're based in the Western Hemisphere or they're using the Western Hemisphere to hurt the American homeland. So it's really a Monroe Doctrine, which is externally faced, but it's also internally directed, because to my mind, what President Trump is doing is laboring so hard to restore the American spirit. Right. To restore American identity, which is so important. Under threat, obviously, from political Islam or under threat from drugs, for example, whether those are the opioids and the synthetic opioids coming from China or other narcotics coming from Latin America.
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Do you think, do you think.
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You.
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Think, you think the. You think the Venezuela has a component that's the Chinese Communist Party? I mean, there are people come forward and say, hey, why do you say that? Give me a minute on that.
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Absolutely. Because of the presence that the CCP has in Venezuela, and not only Venezuela, but there. So the CCP wants to use, of course, the Venezuelans against us. Right. They want to use Venezuela as a base to hurt us.
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Is this part of this, part of cleaning out the entire Caribbean of a major infusion of the People's Liberation Navy and what they've got in the Bahamas with these phony embassies that are really military installations. Is this part of that?
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Certainly. And Cuba, too. We can't forget Cuba. And the base that has received some attention, of course, the way the CCP is using Cuba as well.
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Hang on, hang on. But hang on, hang on. Is this just. Marco and the guys in South Florida love them, The Venezuelans, the Cubans, they. They believe in the heart of hearts that the march to Havana, you got to go through Caracas. Is this what we're doing, or is it really to clear out the Chinese Communist Party and other outside actors in this region?
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No, I see it differently. I see Trump is adding muscle to the Monroe Doctrine. Right. What Trump is saying is, you're not going to hurt the American people using wet bases in the Western Hemisphere or using countries in the Western Hemisphere targeting and damaging the American people. We're not going to tolerate that, whether that's China, the Chinese Communist Party or whether it's other actors, narco, essentially narco terrorists or Cuba. President Trump has that vision of hemispheric defense, which is absolutely essential. But what hemispheric defense is to my mind is a restoration, a major contribution to the restoration of the American spir, which is what President Trump is after, right? What he's giving the American people and why so many people voted for him.
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Thayer, what's your. We got. We're jam, we got a bounce. I want to have you back on Monday and Tuesday. What are your, your coordinates? You're putting up great writing all the time. Where do folks go?
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Yeah, Steve, Brad Theron X or Bradley Theron Getter and truth. Thanks very much. Very important discussion, Very important.
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The overarching theme here is for America first to work, you've gotta hold your hemisphere. We're living in a tripolar world. It's the United States. Russia and China are the prime players. Those two guys are dealing in their hemispheres and they're securing it. We have not done the same for ours. So what Trump is trying to do is he's trying to secure all the major flows in the north and South American area and the polar region. If we lose these regions, Steve, we don't have America first. We have, basically, we're surrounded and isolated and we become what the Soviet Union was in the Cold War, contained and isolated by our enemies. We do not want that to happen. Trump stopping it.
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Brandon Weikart, social media. Where do people go? Get your writings, your thinking until you join us back on Monday or Tuesday, sir.
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Well, right now I'm promoting my new show on Rumble, National Security Talk. Nat Sec Talk on Rumble. And also E. The Brandon is my Twitter and you can get my books wherever they're sold. And also I'm a senior national security editor at the National Interest, which is national interest dot org.
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Are we going kinetic in Latin? Are we going kinetic in Venezuela in the next 72 hours, sir, I think.
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In the next 72 hours we will be going kinetic in Venezuela, Yes.
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Boom.
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Folks, that is a bombshell right there. You, you believe in the next 72 hours we're going to go Connecticut, 72 to 96 hours.
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They were, they were waiting on the carrier, the carriers there. I spoke to some people affiliated with the carrier. Everybody's jazzed and ready to roll on the carrier. They believe they're going in. I believe that they're going in, sir.
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Thank you very much. Appreciate you. You're up all weekend. We'll see, we'll see you back here Monday morning. Brandon Weicker, Daybreat Thoughts?
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Yeah. I think President Trump has always had it right. He has a very simple formula called America first that will stop the border invasions, stop the endless wars, stop Biden inflation, do what's good for the working class. He's been spot on with that. That attracted all the young people. I think the establishment Republicans are getting real nervous right now.
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Hang on, I got, I got that, I got that. But if you go kinetic and Venezuela, are you starting a. If you go kinetic or the way you go kinetic. Are you starting a 20 year civil war down there, sir?
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Yeah, that's, that's a little risky. That's the fault of our CIA and State Department, who should have solved this a few years back. But going on, you know, just look at Ron Paul, right? He attracted young people with a very simple, consistent message. Trump's got to stick with that consistent message. The establishment people are getting nervous. They're going to offer, you know, Chinese students in here, all sorts of visas to the corporate class. He's got to stick to his guns on Argentina. There's no problem with the moral hazard thing. Trump's a genius at deal making. Just tie any risk to the currency swaps. It's a currency swap. It's not. We're not bailing them out with huge debt dollars. Just tie that to the rare earth minerals and that's a winner. Yeah. And on Venezuela, Maduro, Go look at a map. It's right across the water. That's the Monroe Doctrine. And on the corruption with Zelensky, the oligarchs look like they're mapping out a house for him in Florida.
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By the way, you think that Zelinsky actually goes to exile in Florida?
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It's looking like it. Breitbart today, he's got a couple oligarchs named and I've heard other rumors of real estate purchases in Florida.
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Wow, we got two bombs. Weikart said we're going kinetic and Venezuela in the next 72, 96 hours. And Dave Brat's already got the corruption, got an exit strategy for Zelensky to get him to Florida with billionaires. We'll link to the Breitbart article. Dave, Brett, your social media brother.
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Yep, Just Brad. Economics on getter and X. And the real corruption is the folks in our State Department who didn't listen to Mearsheimer and you three years ago.
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Amen, brother. By the way, Dave, Brad, yes or no, are we going to go kinetic in, in, in Venezuela in the next 72 to 96 hours, sir?
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Not my lane, as you say, but I would say no. I hope no. We're trying to scare you. Scare the boots off him and that's it. I hope.
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Or send a hit. Send a CIA hit team to take him out. Okay, thank you, Brad. You're fantastic. Thank you. Spending Saturday with us. Moral hazard. Amazing. Ben Harnwell, talk to me about, Give me, give me a couple of minutes on what's happening in Ukraine and particularly there's talk now that Zelensky may be turfed out and heading to Florida, sir.
H
Well, let's start at the end of that question and work back towards the beginning. There are some people who think if that were to happen, if Zelensky were to flee Ukraine, that might hasten the end of the war. I would caution massively against that interpretation. The reason he's, if this were to happen, the reason he would be ejected by his own domestic political class is that he's no longer able to provide the one reason that has sustained him for what, a year and a half beyond his presidential mandate. And that is he's no longer bringing in the money. He's no longer bringing in American money specifically. And there'll be no prospect of that. And that's why they will get rid of him and presumably bring in someone like General Zalilsny, who's currently in exile in London as ambassador, beloved figure by the military, by the Ukrainian people. So that would only mean the switcheroo, would only mean that this war is going to go on and on rather than tidy up quickly. No, Steve, the reason I really want to come onto the show today and share this with the war in posse is this is one of my all time favorites coming out of Ukraine. You remember we said sort of three years ago how the Ukrainian political class was taking advantage of having gold plated for facials. You remember that? And we all laughed and said, you know, that's, you know folks, that's where your heart earned tax dollars are going, right? Can you afford gold leaf facials? No, but they were being hoovered up by the, the Ukrainian political. Well, there is one thing better than that now in these raids that have taken place over the last 48 hours in Ukraine, in amongst the default bags, stuff, stuff full of cash in addition to the sort of, I think how many sort of 200 hours worth of intercepted phone calls they found in one of Zelensky's key political operatives they found a gold golden toilet. Not a gold plated toilet, Steve, a golden toilet. Solid gold. And this is related to the fleeing from Ukraine of Timur Mindich, that's his name, who's diverted up to $100 million worth of illicit funds through his office. Thanks, Denver. Yes, do please put up that photo now. That is it and that is where your hard earned dollars have been going, right, Americans. And on the one hand, you know, you think this is outrageous and on the other hand, to add a lighter note, one can understand Steve, that the hallowed nostrils of Zelenskyy and his oligarchs can't be expected to snort cocaine off your common or garden porcelain toilets. They need something more suitable for their station. And there it is, right, right in front of you. My plea, Steve, I'll hand back to you on this. My plea is to President Trump.
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To.
H
Withdraw fully, decisively the United States from the scenario and make it clear to the political class that America is out. Once you kill the hope, the lifeline, then perhaps this war might end.
A
They're doing the raids because the corruption is so out of control. As we said, they're doing the raids to try to cover, you know, to try to do something so they continue to get more money. It's not going to work. This thing is going to collapse. It's been a disaster. You have a million and a half Ukrainians dead. You got a million and a half Russians, you got 3 million people dead or wounded. The place looks like Dresden in 1945. It's revolting what's happened. And now you're seeing all the theft that we've talked about for years. Ben Harnwell, social media over the weekend. We'll get you back up on Monday. Great job on the shows on Wednesday and Friday. Where do people get you this weekend with your BDI commentary?
H
My beady eyed cynicism, my unblinking reptilian eyes will be following the news over the next the rest of this weekend. And you're right, it is disgraceful, it is disgusting this grift, they are thieving hand over fist. Get us Steve, my social media platform of choice. Tap in my surname, Harnwell. And there I are.
D
There I am.
A
Get from your perch in the Eternal City, yes or no, do we go kinetic in Venezuela in the next 72 to 96 hours?
H
Sir, I'm with Dave Bratt on this. I hope not, sir.
A
Thank you very much. Look forward to seeing you Monday. We'll follow you on Begetter over the weekend. Ben Harnwell, head of our international desk out of Rome. Nothing could be more urgent. I think that everything that's going on is make sure make America healthy again is actually a healthy movement. Claire Dooley's here. So this summit the other day was closed to the media, right? But you had one big hitter after the other. In fact JD I haven't had a chance to play it. I will play it Monday. He actually was up there with Bobby Kennedy and gave a great, I think summary of America first in Maga, about in Appalachia and the folks that he kind of came from in guess, eastern Ohio. Claire Dooley, you've now had a Chance to kind of analyze this and write a piece about it. We've got about four minutes here and you're going to hold you through the break. What do you got for us?
C
Yeah, so I just wrote a piece called Inside the Maha Summit, an ex Vaxxers take. So it'll be released on the Maha.
A
Whose take?
C
An ex Vaxxers take, which we can dive into what an X vaxxer means, I think.
A
An ex vaxxer, yes.
C
I think often in the media we get called anti vaxxers. That we're anti something. Right. Like we want to take away someone's right to vaccinate. You know that all of us just completely hate vaccines. And that's not really the case. I mean, within my family we did the thing right, we vaccinated and then suffer the consequences.
A
You had all the vaccines as a little kid?
C
I didn't actually, but at a certain point I was caught up and I had five in one day, which has never been studied and subsequently experienced some reactions. And so at that point my mom looked into it and learned that vaccines also, some vaccines contain aborted fetal tissues. And so for our family that was something that we decided we no longer wanted to do. And that was one of the reasons.
A
Why, from a religious or spiritual and cultural perspective.
C
Right, so it's not that we're anti anything, but my personal choice is that we're not gonna. We're not gonna vaccinate. So that's my take on the Maha Summit. Right. I'm coming from that perspective. I've been making documentaries for 10 years on health freedom and the vaccine freedom movement. And so walking into a room full of biotech bureaucrats is definitely not something that was on my checklist. Incorporated in corporatist. Right? We're watching corporatism. So I know we mentioned before when I came on, there was Yancopolis, George Yancopolis of Regeneron, DJ SEO of neuralink. So you had folks like that in the room. Cole Carney of crispr. And so the article is really my experience of going to the MAHA summit. And from start to finish, what's going through my mind as someone who has this background and his experience, you come as a.
A
We're going to go to break here in a second. You come from a activist, you're a filmmaker, but it's amazingly from the activist base of the Children's Health Defense and the people that quite frankly were considered absolute wingnuts but now have Bobby Kennedy as the Secretary of Health and Human Services and an act. And you have President Trump, not just flying air cover. President Trump in the Roosevelt Room presentation he did about autism and the vaccines. I mean, he's almost as big an advocate as Bobby Kennedy. So to come as a most marginal group and now get to the summit, give me a couple words. We got about 30 seconds before we go to break. As you see where you guys have come and you seize power in the imperial capital and now you got a bunch of tech, let's be blunt, a bunch of tech bros looking to grift off the system. Right. What were your thoughts?
C
I think this is a chance for Maha to seize that kind of power in a way that we can be responsible. Right. The pharmaceutical industry has failed us, but we have big tech biotech coming up. And this is a moment.
A
What do you mean seize power? The argument is they're going to seize power. You're saying right now. Okay, okay. From the mouth of babes. Let's take a short commercial break. I think this is what people want to hear. A lot of the activists are saying, what in the hell is going on here? Short commercial break. Claire Dooley on a hostile takeover of the Maha movement in a moment. You know, I didn't know this until the the guys at Field of Greens, the doctors and the experts told me about it and then gave me information was fascinating. We have two ages, our actual age and our body's internal biological age. Additionally, what I didn't know is I've likely lowered my biological age without even knowing it. Here's the thing. Because Americans eat so many processed and ultra processed foods and not enough fruits and vegetables, many, perhaps most, are 10 years older on the inside than their actual their actual age. They're ticking time bombs. A major university study suggests how to slow aging and diffuse that biological time bomb. Participants slowed their aging by drinking Field of Greens. That's all. They didn't change their eating, drinking or exercise, just Field of Greens. I feel great knowing Field of Greens can slow how quickly I'm aging. And I encourage you to join me. Swap your untested fruit, vegetable or green drink for Field of Greens while there's time. Check out the university study. I want you all to read it and get 20% off when you use promo code Bannon@FieldofGreens.com that's FieldofGreens.com promo code Bannon. Read the university study. Find out how you can slow down your internal biological clock by using this amazing formula which you just add to your favorite drink. Art of Water. What you do at the Worm every day and in Addition, you will get an energy boost. That's fieldofgreens.com promo code Bannon. You get 20% off. Do it today. Birchgold.com, put some financial stability in your life. Talk to the team, Philip, Patrick and the team over there. Easiest way, take your phone app Bannon B A N N O N 989-898. Get the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. It's not an era, it's an age. Go check it out today and talk to Philip Petron. We got all kind of 401s IRAs, all these methodologies to do tax deferred. Your 401ks IRAs over in a tax deferred method. They're the experts. Talk to them and talk to them today. Claire Dooley, the floor is yours, ma'.
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Am.
C
So we were just talking about an article I wrote called Inside the MAHA Summit, an Xboxer's take. And we've been talking about the big tech takeover type themes when it comes to the MAHA space. I kind of wanted to share a little bit too about some of the details in my article. And Steve, you know, at a summit, the most important thing that doesn't actually happen on stage, it happens in the conversations in the room. Correct. So I wanted to talk.
A
I'm not in the room, not in the deal. That's the key thing. Not in the room, not in the deal. Right. You're right behind. It's the breakout meetings. It's the conversations behind the stage. So is the grassroots movement in the room?
C
Absolutely, they're in the room. And this is something that I feel very empowered by. I mean, I talked with Lee Rosebush. He basically has all these compounding pharmacies. He's working on moving compounding into the US and moving it from China and India. So I actually mentioned to him, hey, you know, look, there's a bunch of vaccine injured folks. I mean, what are you doing about that? And he had a lot of meaningful comments to say about it. You had people sitting in the room like Scott Morris from Walmart. He's a Walmart executive. Walmart has just promised to remove a majority of their synthetic additives and their private label brand, which mainly affects people of lower income like my folks back in Mississippi. I mean, most of them do their shopping at Walmart. That's a huge MAHA win in the room. There was also a guy named David Light of Valisure. So Valisure is one of the companies that found toxic chemicals in a lot of sunscreen. Brands that have been cleared by the fda. And he said, no, they did the testing. They found that it was toxic. And a lot of those sunscreens were then subsequently recalled. That guy is in the room, right? He's saying, hey, we're going to hold the FDA accountable. If the FDA isn't going to do their job, we're going to do their job for them. I don't think that's a bad thing. Right. And that's considered biotech. So I think whenever it comes to even a guy named Ed Clay, he has this amazing cancer treatment center in Mexico. He's sitting in the room. His mom was a victim of the pharmaceutical industry.
A
Here's the only thing we'll have. I want everybody. So Grace and Mo, if you can take this article, I want to push it out to everybody. I want people to read it. But here's my point and I want to have you back on. And Tony Lyons is also going to join us. And I think so. Sophia Castins was there. Sophia is going to join us on. She's got some thoughts on, really, Prisoner's Dilemma, AI and she's got some very definitive thoughts about this summit. What Nicole Shanahan, the Children's Health Defense and Bobby Kennedy and what you guys did 10 years of your life, dedicated these films. You took what was considered a quite marginal group and you showed immense political power by kind of partnering up, let's say right now, the junior partner to the MAGA movement with President Trump won a tremendous victory. And you have Bobby Kennedy in a confirmed Secretary of Health and Human Services, which if you had said this a couple years ago, people would say that's total madness. It has come because you have rallied the American people on a grassroots basis. You guys had no big money. In fact, you had all the big money against you. My point, everybody in that room that comes from corporate America is a wolf, okay? They're going to do some good things, all those good things because you put continual pressure or show economic opportunities for them. Nobody is there to help them Make America Healthy Again movement. They are anti grassroots. They're like, they're anti MAGA on the other tech bros. It's just the nature of the structure of those industries and how they apply capital to it. So this is why I think people now you have a creme de la creme of the biotech industry sitting there licking their chops as the little lambs of Make America Healthy Again come through. And I think people are the Claire Dooleys and the Cole Shanahans and all These grassroots people have been fighting for years. Are you guys smart enough and tough enough to understand that you've seized some power, but people are trying to come and says and they're trying to take over the movement. That's what I'm saying. No. Tony Leinz, others would disagree with me. That's my own beady eyed cynicism that I get from Ben Harno. Where do people go to get this article? You did a great job on this. So where do they go?
C
So you can go to the MAHA report and subscribe mahareport.com, subscribe. You'll see this article coming out and absolutely, Steve, we are not going away. We're a major.
A
Are you going to win this fight or not? Is the grassroots of MAHA going to win this fight?
C
It's already won, in my opinion.
A
Wow.
C
It's just a matter of time. It's a matter of getting over the finish line.
A
In your face, Bannon. Okay, Monday we're going to drill down on this. Hopefully. Taj Gil, 18 tours defending your country as a patriot, you got to carry a battle group off with a lot of Navy Seals on it. Fleet, Marines, all of it. Just 250th birthday of the Navy, the Marine Corps, the great. These institutions are magnificent. Tell me what guys are thinking about as they sit off the coast of Venezuela right now, sir.
E
Yeah, 16 times. But I think, I mean, everybody's ready to go in. And I heard what the guys on your show were saying earlier about the invasion of Venezuela is imminent in the next 72 to 96 hours. I don't know about that. I think when you secure objective, you need concentric rings of security. And I think that's what that, that's what this is. The objective to securities is the United States of America. The first ring of security is going to be your border patrol, the wall that Trump is building. And then another ring of security is going to be the Gulf of America, the Pacific Ocean, the Atlantic Ocean, with this aircraft carrier battle group down there, the strike group down there. Right now, what we're doing is containment. We're containing Venezuela. You know, the US Is not going to be contained. Venezuela is the one being contained. And I mean, we can invade. If we do invade, it's going to, we're not going to know about it. What's going to happen. We need three elements to conduct a successful strike. That's speed, surprise and violence of action. Just like Trump did in Iran. We didn't know that Iran hit was coming. They did it with speed. Surprise of violence action. It was over quick. So if we do invade Venezuela, it'll be quick, it'll be decisive, and it's going to be violent. And then hopefully we'll get out quick.
A
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E
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Brother. I'm going right now. I need some. I need some more warpaths. I'll be up all weekend on social media. Claire Dooley. Your social media. Where do people get you?
C
You can find me on claire dooleyfilm.com Claire Dooley, filmed on Instagram.
A
I want everybody to read this article. We'll have Claire back on on Monday. Until then, I'll be up on getter, five o'. Clock. Poso, Benny Johnson, all of them. Madison Square Garden. What if he had the brightest mind in the war room? Delivering critical financial research every month? Steve Bannon here. War Room listeners know Jim Rickards. I love this guy. He's our wise man. A former CIA, Pentagon and White House advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets, Jim predicted Trump's Electoral College victory exactly 312 to 226, down to the actual number itself. Now he's issuing a dire warning about April 11, a moment that could define Trump's presidency and your financial future. His latest book, MoneyGPT, exposes how AI is setting the stage for financial chaos. Bank runs at lightning speeds, algorithm driven crashes, and even threats to national security. Right now, War Room members get a free copy of MoneyGPT when they sign up for Strategic Intelligence. This is Jim's flagship financial newsletter, Strategic Intelligence. I read it. You should read it. Time is running out. Go to rickardswarroom.com that's all one word. Rickards War Room records with an S. Go now and claim your free book. That's rickardswarroom.com do it today.
Episode 4930: Visions Of Hemispheric Defense And What That Means With Venezuela
Date: November 15, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guests: Brandon Weichert, Jack Posobiec, Bradley Thayer, Dave Brat, Ben Harnwell, Claire Dooley, Taj Gill
This episode dives deeply into the shift in U.S. security priorities under the concept of "hemispheric defense," which re-imagines the Monroe Doctrine for the 21st century. The panel discusses the U.S. strategic pivot away from global interventions and towards exerting dominance and securing influence in the Western Hemisphere, with a special focus on Venezuela, the threat of foreign (notably Chinese and Russian) involvement in Latin America, and concerns about corruption and American aid in Ukraine. High-profile MAGA activists describe the movement's grassroots victories and the challenges ahead from corporate influence. The episode’s tone is combative, urgent, and unapologetically America First.
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The episode is forceful, urgent, and unapologetically nationalist. Bannon and guests frequently interrupt each other, emphasizing action, “dominance,” and skepticism of both the U.S. foreign policy status quo and elite/corporate interests. Panelists’ language is combative and personal, expressing a sense that America is under siege both externally (CCP, globalism) and internally (entrenched bureaucracy, corrupt allies). There is a deep undercurrent of “America First” populism, alongside fear of betrayal from within and without.
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For listeners curious about the trajectory of American grand strategy, the future of Latin America, and the internal-external threats to American power, this episode is an intense and comprehensive primer.