Bannon’s War Room — Episode 4938: Lawfare Against MAGA Still Continues After 2020

Date: November 19, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Key Guests: Mike Davis, Judge Jim Troupas, Philip Patrick, Captain Morgan Murphy, Mike Lindell

Episode Overview

This episode focuses on what Bannon and guests describe as continued "lawfare" against MAGA figures following the 2020 election, including updates on AI legislation maneuvers, the legal battles over 2020 election actions, redistricting fights, and financial trends indicating global economic unrest. The episode features pointed discussion around legislation impacting artificial intelligence, the legal targeting of legal experts who advised Trump in 2020, and how MAGA-aligned candidates are attempting to resist institutional GOP and Democratic pushback at the state and national level.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. AI Legislation and Tech Industry Maneuvers

Context and Concerns

• Primary Concern: Tech companies (specifically “Big Tech” and their “tech bros”) are accused of trying to slip federal amnesty for AI companies into must-pass legislation without public debate or oversight.
• Bannon’s Critique: Bannon argues that controversial and sweeping legislative items are hidden in large, must-pass bills, preventing adequate democratic discourse (02:00–05:55).
• Mike Davis’s Advocacy: Mike Davis (head of the Article 3 Project) strongly criticizes the attempt at “blanket amnesty” for AI companies, warning it would preempt all state and local regulation, with no meaningful federal guardrails (06:20–12:22).

The “Four Cs” Davis Emphasizes (09:13–12:11)

• Conservatives: Protected from censorship.
• Children: Protected from AI-enabled predators ("pedo bears" as an example).
• Creators: Protected from copyright/IP theft.
• Communities: Protected from the negative impacts of rapid data center expansion (e.g., rising energy costs, unsuitable siting).

Quote, Mike Davis [10:04]:
"Conservatives from censorship, children from predators, creators from copyright theft, and communities from big tech overreach—that’s what we must protect."

• Call to Action: Davis urges listeners to visit article3project.org to lobby Congress and oppose AI amnesty in the National Defense Authorization Act (12:22–14:14).

2. Legal Repercussions for MAGA 2020 Election Efforts

The Judge Troupas Case

• Background: Judge Troupas is facing 17 separate legal actions (civil and criminal) relating to his efforts in the 2020 Wisconsin election, including felony charges for organizing an alternate elector slate at the advice of state authorities (23:54–49:02).
• Argument: Troupas, with Bannon’s support, frames these actions as both legally legitimate (following both state and federal instructions) and now being retroactively criminalized as a warning to others.
• Personal Repercussions: Troupas and his family have experienced significant financial, reputational, and privacy harm due to these actions. Federal agencies allegedly seized family records, and his son was even detained for questioning during a family vacation (39:26–40:49).

Quote, Judge Troupas [24:17]:
"In history, you’re known as the guy that did what we in Wisconsin did: a recount, a legitimate recount. We asserted legal claims that would have taken out over 200,000 votes... The very person who is now prosecuting me told us to do it."
Quote, Judge Troupas [39:02]:
"They have to destroy you because you stood for the country and state of Wisconsin. That’s who they have to destroy most of all."

• Pending Trial: Troupas warns that Wisconsin authorities plan to try Donald Trump and his team (possibly in absentia) in Dane County, potentially live on national television, alleging their actions on alternate electors were part of a broader plan to incite January 6th events (44:38–48:24).
• Fundraising for Defense: Listeners are encouraged to support Troupas at judgetroupas.com.

Quote [49:00]:
"How many years in prison do you have on the criminal charges against you right now?"
"Well, the rest of my life. I mean, each count is seven years and they've charged me with 11 counts." — Judge Troupas

3. MAGA Political Strategy in the Senate (Alabama)

• Captain Morgan Murphy announces his candidacy for the Alabama Senate seat, aiming to keep “a strong MAGA voice in the Senate” and expressing distrust for “deep state Republican establishment” and mainstream GOP efforts to marginalize MAGA (29:53–32:59).
• Murphy on Senate Culture: He underscores the need for fighters, not debaters, in the Senate, referencing his service with Senator Tuberville (who plans to run for governor).

Quote, Captain Murphy [31:41]:
"We’ve got to have MAGA voices in the Senate. There is a deep state and deep Republican establishment plot to get rid of MAGA."

• Campaign Info: murphy4senate.com

4. Redistricting Battles in Texas and Nationwide

• Mike Davis on Texas: Judge selected by Cruz throws out state GOP redistricting; risk of “losing the House if we don’t fix this” (13:23–14:14).
• Political Implication: Bannon and Davis stress the risk of court decisions shifting congressional power to Democrats, highlighting that similar aggressive legal strategies are at play nationwide.

5. Economic Shifts: Central Banks Buying Gold

• Philip Patrick Analysis: Central banks globally (especially China and India) are increasing gold reserves at a record pace, signaling a move away from US dollar reserves due to devaluation and economic weaponization by the US (17:24–22:46).
• Dollar Decline: The dollar has lost 25% of purchasing power in five years, prompting gold’s 60% rise this year.
• Historical Reversion: Central banks are reverting to gold holding patterns reminiscent of the pre-1980s era, signaling systemic concern about Western fiscal stability.

Quote, Philip Patrick [18:25]:
"Gold today is a better trade... The dollar's lost 25% of its purchasing power in the last five years. Gold is up 60% this year. It’s a structural shift."

• Resource: birchgold.com/bannon for info and reports.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Bannon, Opening [00:02]:
  "This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we’re going medieval on these people."
• Mike Davis [09:13]:
  "This amnesty is Section 230 on steroids. We cannot have it where we’re trying to jam this through Congress in must-pass legislation in the middle of the night."
• Judge Troupas [25:54]:
  "You were just the guy that was considered the axe in the space... No one was surprised he would call me because I was the expert on recount, on election law in Wisconsin."
• Steve Bannon [46:06]:
  "You were. Mr. Smith Goes Washington. These people play smash mouth. They are. They will destroy—and particularly they have to destroy you because… you’re not a fire-breathing partisan. You’re just going to do your job."
• Mike Lindell [49:18]:
  "There’s so much corruption in Wisconsin. If everybody voted that could vote, 4.4 million, but there’s 7.3 million names on their border rolls. That’s just an example… it’s totally disgusting."

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:00–05:55]—Bannon’s monologue on legislative process abuse regarding AI and data centers.
• [06:20–14:14]—Mike Davis details risks of AI amnesty, Section 230 precedent, and the “four Cs” to protect; call to action.
• [17:24–22:46]—Philip Patrick discusses global gold buying and what it signals.
• [23:54–49:02]—Judge Troupas recounts his experience as Trump’s legal adviser, details legal actions against him, and outlines coming high-profile trials in Wisconsin.
• [29:53–32:59]—Captain Morgan Murphy’s Senate run announcement and reflection on MAGA’s fight in the Senate.
• [48:24–49:55]—Judge Troupas reveals the personal cost, pending criminal years, and urges support; Mike Lindell comments on Wisconsin voter rolls.

Tone and Language

The episode is combative, urgent, and deeply skeptical of both political and technological power centers. Bannon, his guests, and callers speak in highly mobilizing, dire terms, appealing to listeners’ sense of embattlement and the need for direct action—whether it’s contacting Congress, supporting legal defenses, or investing for economic protection.

Summary Table

| Segment/Timestamp | Topic | Key Speaker(s) | Key Quote/moment | |--------------------------|--------------------------------------------------|------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:00–05:55 | Critique of legislative process & AI | Bannon | “Their game is to take the most controversial things and just slide it in the middle of the night...” | | 06:20–12:22 | “Four Cs,” AI amnesty, call to action | Mike Davis | “This amnesty is Section 230 on steroids.” | | 17:24–22:46 | Central bank gold buying | Philip Patrick | “Gold is the number two Global Reserve asset.” | | 23:54–49:02 | 2020 recount, legal persecution, future trial | Judge Troupas | “For advising a client and the President... over 100 years in prison...” | | 29:53–32:59 | Alabama Senate campaign launch | Murphy | “We need MAGA voices in the Senate.” | | 44:38–48:24 | Upcoming WI trial of Trump (“in absentia?”) | Judge Troupas | “They are going to try the President of the United States in Wisconsin.” |

Final Thoughts

The episode frames all recent developments—AI regulation, the legal fallout of 2020, redistricting battles, and economic shifts—as fronts in a broader, existential struggle for the MAGA movement. It presents aggressive legal tactics and rapid technological change as threats both to movement leaders and to ordinary Americans, with calls for action, vigilance, and community support running throughout.