
Episode 4945: Mamdani In The Oval; Dems Call For Military To Disobey The President ...
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Donald Trump
I just had a great meeting, a really good, very productive meeting. We have one thing in common. We want this city of ours that we love to do very well. And I wanted to congratulate the mayor. He really ran an incredible race against, you know, a lot of smart people, starting with the early primaries against some very tough people, very smart people. And he beat them and he beat them easily. And I congratulated him. And we talked about some things in very strong common like housing and getting housing built and food and prices and the price of oil is coming way down. Anything I do is going to be good for New York. If I can get prices down, it's good for New York. And we've got them down, way down from, from last year. We have. As you know, I've been saying to a lot of people, Walmart said that Thanksgiving this year is exactly 25% less than last year. So that's good for New York, good for everybody. But I just want to congratulate, I think you're going to have hopefully a really great mayor. The better he does, the happier I am. I will say there's no difference in party, there's no difference in anything. And we're going to be helping him to make everybody's dream come true, having a strong and very safe New York. And congratulations, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you. I appreciate it, Jack.
Jack Posobiec
Mr. President, I wanted to know, one of the policies as well that Mayor Lechmondame talked a number of times about on the campaign was shifting the tax burden for property taxes from what he called minority communities to white based communities and putting more taxes on white people. I also noticed that in your acceptance speech you didn't mention anything about America or Christians or white people in general. And so I didn't know if that was one of the policies that you guys had spoken about.
Ademola Mamdani
We focused on affordability. We focused on the cost of living crisis. What I will say is that I am very much interested in property tax reform because what we see right now in New York City is a system that is so inequitable that it can't even stand up in court. And the president and I spoke about the importance of not only building more housing, but also making sure that regulation of housing is something that is manageable to actually get through and not the cause of yet another weight that we see in our city.
Jack Posobiec
But to be clear, you're continuing this idea of race based property taxes?
Ademola Mamdani
Mr. No, to be very clear, that's what you, the use of the term was a description of neighborhoods Not a description of intent.
Jack Posobiec
So you intend to tax the whiter neighborhoods more?
Ademola Mamdani
No, we intend to create a fair property tax system because we want a New York City that is not only fair and equitable, but also one that every New Yorker can afford.
Donald Trump
The press has eaten this thing up. You know, I've had a lot of meetings with the heads of major countries. Nobody cared this meeting that you people have gone crazy. You know, outside you have hundreds of people waiting. This is just a small little group. For some reason, the press has found this to be a very interesting meeting. The biggest people in the world, they come over from countries. Nobody cares. But they did care about this meeting and it was a great meeting.
Steve Bannon
He asked about your comment calling the President a fascist and your answer was, both President Trump and I have been clear about our positions and our views. Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist?
Ademola Mamdani
I've spoken about.
Donald Trump
That's okay. You can just say okay. It's easier. It's easier than explaining.
Joe Hoff
If you threaten to cut off federal.
Steve Bannon
Funding to New York City, what policies.
Ademola Mamdani
Would prompt you to do that?
Steve Bannon
Would that be city run grocery stores? Would it be something else?
Donald Trump
Well, I think if we didn't get along, whether it's cut off or just make it a little bit difficult or not give as much, we want to see, I use the term, we don't want good money going after bad, and we just, we don't want that to happen. I don't think that's going to happen. I did say that, you know, subject to what policies are being said. We had a meeting today that actually surprised me. He wants to see no crime, he wants to see housing being built, he wants to see rents coming down. All things that I agree with. Now, we may disagree how we get there, the rent coming down. I think one of the things I really gleaned very, very much today, he'd like to see him come down, ideally by building a lot of additional housing. That's the ultimate way. He agrees with that and so do I. But if I read the newspapers and the stories, I don't hear, I don't hear that, but I heard him say it today. And I think that's a very positive step. No, I don't expect. I expect to be helping him, not hurting him, a big help. Because I want New York City to be great. Look, I love New York City. It's where I come from. I spent a lot of years there. Now I'm right here. We took a big setback with a mayor that we had Dame de Blasio. I thought it was a tremendous setback for the city. I think this mayor can do some things that are going to be really great.
Jack Posobiec
Do you view the mayor elect as.
Steve Bannon
The true leader of the Democrat Party?
Donald Trump
And do you think Leader Schumer, Jeff.
Ademola Mamdani
Benitino have to follow his lead?
Donald Trump
Well, look, I hope they have great leaders. This is a man that right now I think is focused on New York City. I really think he has a chance to do a great job. We're going to help him, but I really think he has a chance to do a great job. But I'll let you answer that. Do you consider yourself the leader of the Democrats? I think it's more appropriate for him.
Ademola Mamdani
I consider myself the next mayor of New York City and I keep my horizons firmly on New York City and I appreciate the meeting with the president, which focused again on the five boroughs and whether New Yorkers could afford to live there.
Donald Trump
By the way, being the mayor of New York City is a big deal. I always said, you know, one of the things I would love to be someday is the mayor of New York City being the mayor of New York and especially now because I think you're at really a turning point one way or the other. It could go great or it can go in a different direction. And I think you really have a chance to make it great. And I appreciate it.
Jim Hoff
Mr. President, you said you love New York City.
Jack Posobiec
Mr. Mamdani, does New York City love President Trump?
Ademola Mamdani
New York City loves a future that is affordable. And I can tell you that there were more New Yorkers who voted for President Trump in the most recent presidential election because of that focus on cost of living. And I'm looking forward to working together to deliver on that affordability.
Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies cuz we're going medieval on these People's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Jack Posobiec
And where do people like that go.
Steve Bannon
To share the big lie?
Jack Posobiec
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
Steve Bannon
I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Jack Posobiec
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen k. Band.
Steve Bannon
Friday, the 21st of November year of our Lord, 2025. We've got the man, Jack Posobic. Posobic, great. You were great. Again, I'm gonna leave. I'll leave comment for the rest of it with you. You were there. You asked some of the most powerful questions, and you were relentless. You wouldn't back off this guy. Your thoughts are. Put us in the room.
Jack Posobiec
Well, Steve, I mean, look, you know, you hear this guy Mandami, and he's. He's campaigned on a certain set of issues, but he also had his statements from prior on the campaign where you can go through. And I've gone through and highlighted his tweets, and he's got tweet after tweet about white people and how he targets white people, how he's always using white people as a scapegoat. And then even on the campaign, even after he cleans up the act, even on the campaign, and he was pressed about this, he doubles down. We are going to tax the whiter neighborhoods higher. We are gonna shift the burden from the ethnic minority neighborhoods to go to the whiter neighborhoods. And I even mentioned. I said, I noticed you didn't mention America in your announcement speech or your acceptance speech. You didn't mention Christians in your acceptance speech, and you didn't mention white people in your acceptance speech. The only time you talk about them is when you want to shift the burden. And, Steve, it was like when. When I would have, like, a. Like a junior sailor. And. And you. And, you know, you caught him on something. And they say. They said, well, you know, I. I didn't say that. Yes, you did. You did say that. Well, I meant it this way. Then why did you say it that way? Why did you say that? Why did you say white? And then he's immediately. And Steve, it's amazing because I could tell no one had ever done that with him before. No one had ever done that and actually pressed him down and got him to drill down on what it was that he actually meant when he said that.
Steve Bannon
No. And he gave you. Gave you a non answer, right?
Jack Posobiec
Yeah, he gives us the non answer. But you should have seen, by the way. So we're sitting there and we're all in, and he's got the campaign manager over in the corner, the one that came in with. And she's just daring daggers at me the entire time. The entire time, because I think she recognized me immediately when I was in there and said, this guy. Watch out for this guy. So then we walk up. So I'm behind the pool at one point, and Then I'll just say it. Margo comes over and says, hey, hey, take my spot. So I go right up in front. Then the president sees me. Hey, Jack, why don't you ask a question? Sure, I'll ask a question.
Steve Bannon
What? And then they asked him. They asked him. Later. The president trumped in, you know, they asked about Trump being a fascist. And President Trump jumped in and said, you don't have to answer that. Right. Or answer that for you. Yes, right. When they asked my.
Jack Posobiec
He said, you can say yes.
Steve Bannon
You can say. You can say.
Jack Posobiec
You can say yes.
Steve Bannon
The guys are Ugandan. This does not.
Jack Posobiec
He's a cult. He's a cultural Marxist who was born outside the country and a jihadist. He's coming to the country. He stands for the takedown of America in a way that can only be described as Marxism. And the only difference between Mandami's politics and Luigi Magione's politics is that Mamdani's doing it through the ballot box now. Now.
Steve Bannon
Currently.
Jack Posobiec
Currently.
Steve Bannon
Currently. He's the Sadi.
Jack Posobiec
This is the Mensheviks and the Bolsheviks. And he's Mensheviks and the Bolsheviks.
Steve Bannon
He's the Sadi Khan.
Jack Posobiec
He's Ugandan. And he gets up there and he's oh, so charming. And. And, oh, it's. It's all just about affordability and it's all about making prices. We're going to give all the free stuff. And of course I. I want police. And of course I want this. And of course I want that.
Steve Bannon
Again, pull that thing. We'll play it later.
Jack Posobiec
It's all happy talk. It's all happy talk.
Steve Bannon
Because look at the victory speech go to.
Jack Posobiec
And that's. And that's why I brought that up.
Steve Bannon
I got three words for you with the Bollywood. Turn the volume up.
Jack Posobiec
Turn the volume up.
Steve Bannon
Right.
Jack Posobiec
No, that was the.
Brian Kennedy
That was.
Jack Posobiec
Why is it the real Mamdani?
Steve Bannon
And when I.
Jack Posobiec
And when I asked him the question, Steve. When I asked him the question, he saw and he recognized me. He looked over at me, and I could see. You know, he kind of squares up a little bit. The mask came off because he knew it was coming.
Steve Bannon
Why?
Jack Posobiec
Because to see what these people. These. They're snakes. Remember the snake poem? They're. They're snakes. And you can't treat them as if they're people that you can take at their word. You can't do that with communists. They will always lie. That's what they do. Every single time. And they will lie to you. They will talk to you blue in the face and say, oh, it's just about affordability, it's just about helping. No, you want to tear down the people who have built things. You want to target specific ethnic groups. And which he has said repeatedly in his own words, and I'm sure, I'm sure everyone can find the clip about this. And that's why I pressed on. You said, you want to do this. You said race based policies. You said white neighborhoods. You, you said those things. I didn't say those things. Donald Trump didn't say those things. Caroline Levitt didn't, Stephen Chung, whatever, Susie Wiles, everyone's there. You said those things. And when you press them and you see that little smile and then you know what that little smile was, Steve? That was his answer. Yes, I am. Yes, I am going to smile.
Steve Bannon
It's not a smile, it's a smirk.
Jack Posobiec
The smirk, right, the little smirk. Yes, I am going to target those neighborhoods because those are the people that I want to tear down. The people who actually built New York. And we're gonna give it to all.
Steve Bannon
The newcomers is the political strategy of President Trump and the folks there in the White House that Mandambi is going to put these policies in and it's going to crater and they don't want to be blamed that, hey, Trump, stop Mondami, let him go. Hey, we have the White House, a nice thing. He's going to collapse because he's a Marxist jihadist. He's going to collapse and they can't say Trump the fascist did this. Is that the strategy?
Jack Posobiec
That's my sense. My sense is the strategy is have the meeting, have the sit down. It was like a bro session, you know, almost the exception of one. One series of questions and one Polish.
Steve Bannon
Catholic guy, one traditional. No, you said, you never said Americans. You never said Christians, you never said white people.
Jack Posobiec
Yeah, and I had, just in case, just in case he was, I was armed. Just so you know, I was armed.
Steve Bannon
Christ is king.
Jack Posobiec
Christ is king. And I said, you didn't, you didn't pay homage to, to. And he talked about, he said, I'm a Muslim, I'm a proud Muslim, and I'm. And I'm an immigrant and I'm all these things. And you got the, the, the Bollywood music that he comes off with. I mean, he's in your face about it. But then he goes and puts on this, this pretty boy happy talk face when he goes to the Oval Office. No, no, I see you, I see right through you. And you're not going to get away with it.
Steve Bannon
Not on our watch anyway.
Mike Lindell
Right?
Jack Posobiec
No.
Steve Bannon
Unbelievable. Jack Vesobic, you, you did well. Yeah. Poso is going to ride shotgun because we got like, we got to get through 10 stories and poster is going to help us once again. Thank God you came back. Poster was actually going to be out on the west coast but for a bunch of reasons. You took the super red eye last night.
Jack Posobiec
The 1:00am the milk run, the Megyn Kelly. Megyn Kelly.
Steve Bannon
I heard that was great.
Jack Posobiec
With thousands of patriots in Bakersfield, Central Valley, California, myself, the great Steve Hilton running for governor. We had Victor Davis Hansen. The story. Victor Davis Hansen and Charlie Sheen. Tiger Blood winning. Winning pretty. And of course Megan herself.
Steve Bannon
Pretty, pretty impressive. Huge crowd.
Joe Allen
Huge.
Jack Posobiec
Thousands and thousands. But you know, Steve, let me tell you something. They want President Trump out there. That's they all keep saying. They said when is he going to come?
Steve Bannon
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Jack Posobiec
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Steve Bannon
Drinking Warpath, going on the war path. You got brothers Hoff right now, Jim and Joe. We can finally answer the question. Posobic. Which one's the good looking one and which one's?
Jack Posobiec
It's obvious. No, it's obvious. Look, look.
Joe Allen
The better looking.
Jack Posobiec
They're both good looking. They're both good looking. But it's very clear. Jim is the looker, Joe is the brains.
Steve Bannon
Jones the brains.
Jack Posobiec
This is true, okay?
Steve Bannon
This is true, guys, as we always do here in the war room, we're going to start with the looks first. Jim Hoff, the Seditious Six. You've got great articles. Your reporters are all over this. Besides, they're all over the Mandami situation in the Oval. But up till there's all seditious Six all day on television. What do you got for us?
Jim Hoff
Well, you know, it was interesting and of course predictable that the media's reaction was that they were upset with Trump for saying that these people were Seditionists, and that it could be punishable by death. So that was all the headlines. They didn't say anything about what these people were saying, though, which was seditious and punishable by death according to the laws we have. And I put up a post, Abraham Lincoln, he wouldn't put up with this. And I pointed out that back during the Civil War, he executed several people. One was a man, William Mumford, in New Orleans, who took down an American flag after New Orleans was captured, and he burnt it. And so they executed him. They hung him. Another was this Sam Davis in Tennessee, A young. They called him the boy spy. And he was captured by the Union army. And they hung this kid, too. And then there is. I even looked up Washington, and there's one case there with Washington where this Thomas Hickey, he's probably someone you've heard of, Steve, he was put in jail for counterfeit money, I suppose, and he was telling one of the inmates to defect from the army and cause mayhem, and they hung him, too. That was Washington. So people didn't put up with this when they, you know, in years past, I don't know why we're allowing all of these crimes to pass, you know, in front of us, we see all this, what they've done to Donald Trump, like nothing we've ever seen before. And yet we're still waiting for people to be prosecuted. And then this outlandish advertisement that the Sedition Six put out was just, you know, unbelievable that they would go there. And yet I don't think there's any way that we can let them skate on this. I certainly hope that Congress or the Department of Justice has some, you know, balls to do something about this.
Steve Bannon
How dangerous. How dangerous is this? They're getting in between President Trump as Commander Chief, when we have 12 to 15,000 sailors and marines off the coast of Venezuela.
Jack Posobiec
Sir, I actually think this is part of a larger. A larger plot that's going on. And I did speak to individuals within the White House about this today. And I said, steve, what they're doing is they're soliciting for whistleblowers again. They want to run the same whistleblower op that they did with Vindman all the way back in 2019 about what? The first impeachment. You're watching the setup of this, I guess, the third impeachment of Donald Trump before your eyes. And this is why they're not giving him. And by the way, there are a lot of senators on the Republican side of the aisle that are complicit in this. That's why they're not giving him the filibuster. That's why you're seeing the donor class line up. That's why you're seeing people come out and say, oh no, no, no, we gotta move past Trump. We gotta talk about the post Trump.
Jim Hoff
Right.
Jack Posobiec
So you're seeing this work of the Uniparty, which we saw yesterday on full display at the, at what? The funeral of Dick Cheney. So they use this addition, six come out and they solicit the whistleblow, whatever it is. It'll probably, probably be on Ukraine again, just like the very first one. And then you go to the House, that gets turned over, you go to the Senate. And what happens if you don't have enough Republican senators to hold on? You knock them out in the middle.
Steve Bannon
Of the term, you remove them. Joe Hoff, let me go to you. We're gonna get back to you. Jim, let me go to you, because Jim's just saying, hey, I need DOJ to get on top of this, the seditious six. You got to start moving on this. We're not moving, we're not moving on enough things. Right, but we got. The DOJ is moving on. Ed Martin, Joe Hoff, what do you got?
Joe Hoff
Isn't that amazing, Steve? I mean, this is really the big question we've had all years. What is the DOJ going to do and when are they going to do it? And this, this piece just landed right in the middle. It didn't turned into an absolute bomb. About two and a half years ago, I was reached out to by this lady from California. Her name's Chris Bish. She's running for Congress out there. She was back then as well. And she sent me a bunch of information about Adam Schiff and his mortgages. And he bought a property in Maryland and first purchased it back in around 2003, I think he became a congressman in around 2000 and then he refined it like four times between 2008 and 2013. Each time though, he claimed that this property was his primary residence. Well, it can't be his primary residence if he's a representative from California. His primary residence would have to be somewhere in California. So he was called off for this actually by Congress and apologized and made some reparations because he got off at a better price tax wise in the state of Maryland. So he paid up the taxes that he owed, moved on, and the facts are that he continued to do it. There's another representative that's mentioned in our piece today. We put it up@joehoff.com and Gateway Pundit. And this guy did the same thing, and he was indicted. So it's not. The left wants to make these mortgage crimes less than what they really are. They are crimes. And, you know, Letitia James has come up, and now we've got Adam Schiff, and there's even.
Steve Bannon
You put the evidence. You put the evidence out. That's. Let's push out Grayson Moe. But what's happening is that the head of the de Weaponization group, Ed Martin, and this comes from his time when he's back as the acting U.S. attorney in D.C. they've got a criminal grand jury on Ed Martin. It's Ed Martin and Robert Bowles Bose and these other guys. They're not even. They're dismissing already the mortgage fraud on Schiff, and they've turned it around, and they're going after one of the best guys we got. Ed Martin, sir.
Brian Kennedy
All right.
Joe Hoff
Well, and that's what happened. Apparently, a couple days ago, they said this, and there's not enough to indict Adam Schiff. And Chris Fish is like, no, that's not true. I'm coming out to Maryland to speak. Speak in front of a grand jury. She gets out there, I believe, yesterday, and they grill her on what she knows about Ed Martin and this other guy by the name of Bill Pulte, who's working with Ed on these mortgage crimes. And they wanted to know what she. What her communications were. She told him, well, I don't have. I haven't had any communications with these guys. They mentioned a number of guys, and basically she said, why don't you guys talk to each other? You seem like the Keystone Cops here, and why don't you talk to each other? You wouldn't have to ask me these questions. They got really upset with her when she said that. There's more to it, though. What's happened is MSNBC tonight or now, it's Ms. Now, or whatever their name is. They came out with a piece stating that Todd Blanche is behind this investigation. Now, we've been wondering, is Todd Blanche on our side or not? It goes back and forth, and people say, no, he's a good guy. People say, no, he's a bad guy. Well, apparently, according to this MSNBC article just this evening, he is behind this investigation of Ed Martin. So what's he. What's going on here? Why are they investigating Ed Martin?
Mike Lindell
Who?
Joe Hoff
Many people, many of us out here in the, you know, in the trenches believe he's the one guy that's doing Something. Why is Todd Blanche behind an investigation into Ed and others who seem to be at least doing something? So it's, yeah, it's hip. It's really.
Steve Bannon
When is that, when is that going to break on msnbc?
Joe Hoff
It's, it's, there's an article already out right now at Ms. Let's get that up. Yeah, Ken Delaney.
Steve Bannon
He'S, he's the comms department for the Deep State.
Donald Trump
Right.
Steve Bannon
So, Jim, Jim Hoff. How can he expect, how can you expect this seditious six DOJ to take action when they're coming after Ed Martin and we can't even get shifted for mortgage fraud?
Jim Hoff
Sir, that's a great question. It's, you know, one thing they said too, that this was Slotkin, who has her own history. She said that they were calling out to these military people because they know how hard it is with Trump and.
Joe Hoff
How much they're suffering.
Jim Hoff
And I'm like, what are they talking about? Trump's the first president who hasn't had any wars.
Brian Kennedy
Right.
Jim Hoff
So anyway, I don't know how, what's going to happen here, but certainly something needs to happen. And I think there are several Republicans who are very upset about this. And you know, Steve, you've talked about the polls recently, and I think this is one of the major factors why Republicans are upset. And, and it's affecting, it could affect next year's midterms.
Steve Bannon
Joe, what is your, what's your coordinates? Where do people go to get all your material, all your content?
Joe Hoff
Yeah, you can go to joehoff.com and these big pieces we put up in Gateway Pundit as well, and then also at a real Joe Hoff at Twitter. So, yeah, thanks.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, brother. Jim. Jim, where do we go for the great Gateway Pundit, Sir?
Jim Hoff
Yeah, it's thegatewaypundit.com and of course we're on in social media with Getter and Truth Social and Facebook and X and others. So that's where you can find us.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, guys. Fight on the Hoff brothers.
Jim Hoff
Great job, Jack.
Steve Bannon
Jack.
Jack Posobiec
Thanks, guys. I appreciate it.
Steve Bannon
Thoughts? Todd Blanche, I think, is a great guy, but there's just not enough action.
Jack Posobiec
We got to see what's going on. Look, and, and of course, but like, you see, you see the, you see the Comey indictment.
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Jack Posobiec
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Steve Bannon
Joe Allen, your thoughts on this, sir?
Joe Allen
Yes, Steve, that was extraordinarily disturbing and powerful. And I think that people like David Sacks, they want to classify stories like Maria or Megan Garcia's as a moral panic. This is all just people freaking out over something that is trivial, that these people's stories are just anecdotes, they don't matter. But when I went to the Senate hearing a couple of months ago, there were four families telling their stories about this. And one particular story, Adam Rains, you, as you described, ChatGPT is not just making him feel better about suicidal ideation. No, ChatGPT was literally explaining how to tie a noose and how he could hang himself. Again, these are now four stories. But four more lawsuits are being brought forward against OpenAI for similar things. But OpenAI themselves, they admit that 0.07 of their users are talking to the system about suicide. Again, people like David Sacks would say, well, obviously a moral panic. But OpenAI, ChatGPT, they have 800 million users. That means that 560,000 that they admit are talking to the system about suicide. How many of them are children? No one really knows. And another two and a half million are exhibiting signs of AI psychosis. How many more that are not being picked up? Nobody knows. If you look at that company character AI, they have 20 million monthly users and there are dozens of other AI apps that are basically exactly the same. They are trained to lure people in, to become friends, to give these systems their trust. And most of them are not age gated. This is why people like the Florida citizens Alliance, who I've been working with, are trying to push laws in Florida to bar any app from giving children access that are below 18, to bar any data scraping. These laws are going into place across the country. But people like David Sacks, people like Mark Andreessen want cover. And I think that they need to explain two things. One, if you believe that these stories are completely insignificant, if you believe that this is just a moral panic, then you need to explain why it is that there are so many people who have suffered under this. And the greater good of your AI project is more important than the suffering that these people are undergoing. You just need to explain it. You can't wave your hand at it. And the second thing they have to explain is if these frontier companies are sincere in wanting to create artificial general and superintelligence and to replace every American worker, then David Sacks, Marc Andreessen, Elon Musk, all these guys, they need to explain, then why it is that we should buy in, why it is that we should accept any of this, why we shouldn't not just regulate them, but completely reject them outright, which half of Americans want to do. And if they're just lying to gin up stock prices, if all of this is just BS to push forward a product that is not going to live up to any of it, well, then why are people like David Sacks and Ted Cruz and Mark and, sorry, Steve Scalise, why are they running cover for a bunk product? It's one or the other. Either they're building a God and intending to replace every human worker and along the way, seeing children kill themselves and completely dismissing it, or what they're doing is selling a bunk product, and people like Ted Cruz, David Sacks, and Steve Scalise are running cover for them. It's one or the other. They have to explain this. They need to be pushed into a corner. Because if they aren't explaining it, then they're doing exactly what every politician in the history of American and world government has done. They are lying to you for power and money.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, we're not gonna allow it. And Ted Cruz should be ashamed of himself and his staff. Should be ashamed of themselves. Should be ashamed of themselves. Should be ashamed of yourself for what you're doing. And we caught you the first time and it come back again. You should be ashamed of yourself. It's obscene. I know. We gotta bounce here. I got a couple other things to get on. Joe, where do people go? That was perfect. So proud of the arc of Joe Allen in the last four years. Just incredible. Joe Allen, where Do people go to get all your Be back with me at 5 today. And where do people go live on Sunday?
Joe Allen
I'm in Dallas, Texas right now. The offer is still open. Ted Cruz, you want to come explain it to us in person? We'll be at the Angelica Film center in Dallas, Texas. Sunday, November 23, 5:00pm War Room Posse come out. If Ted chickens out, then I'll have plenty to explain. AI the tool that becomes a God links at my social media OEBOTXYZ and my website JoeBot XYZ. And the tickets can be bought directly from ministryoftruthfilmfest.com they're very cheap. They're two for one. It's only to cover the expense of the theater. Come on down.
Steve Bannon
Sir. Thank you very much. Appreciate you. Max, we'll get back to you. Also, where do people go to get all your coordinates and your website for your group?
J
There are many, many groups now fighting this good cause. But futureoflife.org is an organization I founded 11 years ago. And what makes me even more upset hearing heart wrenching stories like Megan's story here is that these are the sort of things you know, we warned about many, many years ago and people this was so preventable. This was dismissed for reasons of probably people who just had wanted to make money said no, no, no, this isn't going to happen or it's not going to happen for many, many years. This is why we need to act now and not let people stall us any longer.
Steve Bannon
Max, you're a good man. Thanks for doing this. Thanks for coming to the show. I'll talk to you after the show. If we can't get criminal charges brought on these people, then we don't know what we're doing. It's outrageous and you have to send a signal. It's not just the suicides or the thing to talk you into killing your parents. Look at the lives of being destroyed. Look at the dark places you can take kids 11, 12, 13, 14 years old and they say oh now it's 18. Come on man, you don't think there's a lot of 18 year olds who are pressurable and plus they're all going to slip through it. Think how it would destroy your life having a monster like this in your head at the age of 12 or 13. Think about that. Think about the people on the other side of the trade that knew exactly what they were doing. Exactly. I can't wait to go through the due diligence of Andresen. What they knew and what people on the staff warned About Brian Kennedy, I have two things I have to get to today. One is the Tina Peters. Tina Peters is now in the, as we say, in prison, the special housing unit. She was put in, I think, last night for putting a, for filing a complaint against, I believe, a GED teacher. And they put her in the shoe, which is solitary confinement. Here's my question. We must make. Tina Peters is a political prisoner and we must make her cause we must put it at the top of the stack. Brian Kennedy, your thoughts?
Brian Kennedy
Yeah, thank you, Steve. And thank you for that last segment, too, by the way. I think it was very important, extremely important. Last night I and others saw that Tina Peters was put in solitary confinement. And immediately I thought, President Trump has his Justice Department doing so many things. They must have omitted getting Tina Peters out of that prison. I was struck by the fact that on Wednesday, President Trump had all those Israelis who had been prisoners in, in Gaza, and he brought them to the White House and said they were heroes for having survived all that. And not just the next day, another political prisoner, Tina Peters, a Gold star mom who's 70 years old, was put in solitary confinement. And it looks to me like her only crime was the fact that she was trying to run a fair election in the state of Colorado as the Mesa County Clerk and Recorder. She thought there was improprieties, and so she wanted to do something about that to preserve the evidence. The state of Colorado, as we've discussed on this show many times, put her in, you know, put her on trial for that, you know, charged her and put her on trial and then convicted her. She's in prison now for nine years, which is essentially a death sentence at that age. Now I'm calling on President Trump. And I did that in an ex post last night on Getter. Not because she's 70, not because she's a Gold Star mom, and not because she's likely to die in prison, but because Tina Peters is a witness to the 2020 theft of an election. The president as chief magistrate, could send the marshals into the Colorado prison. There are federal custodial witness protection programs that you could put Tina Peters under that would supersede Colorado law. You could take her to Washington, D.C. you could put her up in. This would be what I would do anyway. Put her up in Blair House for a few weeks while she recovers. Then I would depose somebody or put someone from the Justice Department or the assistant secretary over at dhs, Dave Harvillitz, and I would use her as a witness. As we're investigating the 2020 election. She is a witness to that. It looks to me and to many others like there was foreign interference in that 2020 election. There are national security implications to that and to any future elections. And so the perfectly sensible thing to do would be to use the power of the law, such that the president has today as chief magistrate, and get her out of that solitary confinement, not to free her. Don't supersede Colorado law in that sense. Put her to work. She knows things. She fought for those things. And use those parts of your government, Mr. President, that want to investigate the 2020 election, which you yourself believe was stolen. Use Tina Peters to help with that.
Steve Bannon
Tina Peters is a witness. You're 100% correct. This is not about freeing her. You've got Dave, but you also have Heather Honey, who I think is Dave's deputy. You have the two perfect people over at DHS that, Mr. President, you have put in as officials who. This is their mandate. This is what they're supposed to do. And so it's, it's to, it's to, it's to. And then you roll her into a federal prison. Right, because she's in a, you know, she's a witness in, in what will be a massive, A massive trial. Correct. I mean, there's a, there's a internal logic to this, is it not, Brian Kennedy?
Brian Kennedy
Yeah, I'm. Yes, yes, Steve, but I'm not even sure about putting her in a federal prison. Put her under house arrest.
Steve Bannon
I mean, but yes, yes, house arrest. Yes. It started Blair House. Put her home. Yes, yes, yes. I'm just saying that federal authorities are taking charge of her. Right. So they're not freeing her from Colorado prison or take charge of her. She's going to be witnesses, like being in the Witness protection program or.
Jim Hoff
However you want.
Steve Bannon
However you want to do it. The methodologies that Bureau of Prisons and the DOJ work out will be worked out. But you put it in the hands of Dave and Heather Honey and let her get a systematic download of the stealing of the 2020 election and you get her away from being a prop right for the Colorado authorities, particularly polis who's gonna run on president they. Every time on MSNBC they talk about Tina Peters. They're proud that they have a gold star mother in there for nine years. They want her to die in prison, just like they wanted President Trump to die in prison.
Brian Kennedy
Look, also why this thing's so there's something bigger.
Steve Bannon
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Jack Posobiec
What I need to understand with the AI and I've been pressing with we had Shane Cashman on I've talked to Joe about Shane Cashman from Tim Cast who's big on this is there was that leak from one of the roommates of Lance Twiggs and Tyler Robinson the alleged murder of Charlie Kirk that said that Twigs was obsessed with ChatGPT big time. And would spend days upon days speaking with it, communing with it, coded language. And then this was very interesting, forcing other people to read through the transcripts obsessively. And so it takes over your mind. I want to get those logs because I want to know, I need. Because how many times have we seen chatgpt associated with acts of violence? The kids, the teens killing themselves.
Steve Bannon
We had a mother of a suicide victim on today. Yes, it was heart rendering.
Jack Posobiec
I saw parts of that. It was horrifying. And my question to these guys is, what if one of. And, and what. What Shane Cashman said that was so interesting? He said, if you're sort of a, sort of a normal person and you go to it, you're probably going to be fine. But if you have a diseased mind, if you're someone who's already kind of on the, on the verge, on the edge, on the cusp of something, then what it does, it's mirroring behavior. So it's going to mirror that psychosis back at you because it's designed to increase engagement, people increase interaction. That's. That's how they, that's how they train it. And so the question then becomes. My question was, did they ask this thing about Charlie Kirk and what did it say? Why we need those logs from San Altman? I want those logs.
Steve Bannon
I'm telling you, not going to have a trial. They're going to, they're going to plead out the guy. You're not going to get death.
Jack Posobiec
No plea deals.
Steve Bannon
No plea deals out of a trial.
Jack Posobiec
No plea deals.
Steve Bannon
Mike, I'm a bifurcate your thing real quickly. Tina Peters. Tina Peters is in the special housing unit. We need to get on top of this. Your thoughts on Tina Peters, sir?
Mike Lindell
We got to get her out. We've got to get her out. I know that there's. They're doing everything they can. I've just had, you know, I'm getting mixed reports every day, but it says she's a political prisoner and everybody knows it. I'm just glad that it's getting, you know, more and more talked about because they've got to kick her out. I've said it like, way back in February, kick her out under the federal witness protection program. And, and who's. Who do you go after? Jenna Griswold, the crooked Secretary of State of Colorado.
Jack Posobiec
Jenna Griswold belongs in jail. You're going to jail, Jenna.
Steve Bannon
Okay, are we going to get out on the witness protection program and do it today?
Jack Posobiec
She under witness protection?
Steve Bannon
She's in solitary confinement right now.
Jack Posobiec
No, she should be granted federal witness protection and that there should be federal charges on Jennifer Griswold. It's as simple as that. She's the witness. Yes.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, it has.
Mike Lindell
Yeah, absolutely. It should have been done a long time ago.
Jack Posobiec
And that's probably, by the way, where Lance Twigs is right now is where.
Steve Bannon
In witness protection should not be. Should not be able to cut a deal until we get to the bottom of all that. Mike Lindell. It's been a long, tough day, but we got through it. We're going to get. We just had a surprise in the oval office. We'll break it all down. Poster was there. And by the way, poster, you did an amazing work.
Mike Lindell
Work.
Steve Bannon
People are very proud. You asked a question. Hey, dude, you don't like whites, you don't like Christians, you don't like Americans. What do you got to say for it? He kind of gave the tap dance. I thought I was watching a tick tock video again.
Jack Posobiec
That's how I know that's these guys. They want to do tiktoks. But then when you. And you have to press them. You have to press them. You can't let go. And you. And you have to stick to the point. You said this. Yeah. And you go. The word salad comes out. You said this. Why did you say that? You just keep going back to it. Don't let it. Don't go off. And let them drift into space.
Steve Bannon
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Steve Bannon
We'll see you tomorrow morning on the morning Saturday morning show. Jack Posobic, thank you for dropping by from the White House. I really appreciate it. Getting home a little late. Make sure you get taken care of. Where do people get all your contact? You are a rock star, sir.
Jack Posobiec
We're up at Jack Pasopic, of course catching at the Megyn Kelly tour. So whenever that gets released. And then tomorrow night we'll be with Erica Kirk and Megan Kelly in Phoenix, Arizona.
Steve Bannon
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Jack Posobiec
Flying back out.
Steve Bannon
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Jack Posobiec
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This episode focuses on the surprise Oval Office meeting between President Trump and New York Mayor-Elect Ademola Mamdani, followed by intense War Room panel analysis and commentary on the political fallout. Key topics include race and property tax policy, the discussion of fascism, the role of the “Seditious Six” Democrats urging military disobedience, Department of Justice inaction, AI and mental health, and updates on Tina Peters, a self-described political prisoner.
“No, we intend to create a fair property tax system because we want a New York City that is not only fair and equitable, but also one every New Yorker can afford.” (Mamdani, [02:28])
“That’s okay. You can just say okay. It’s easier. It’s easier than explaining.” (Trump, [03:15])
“There’s no difference in party, there’s no difference in anything. And we’re going to be helping him [Mamdani] to make everybody’s dream come true, having a strong and very safe New York.” (Trump, [00:42])
“You said, you want to do this. You said race-based policies. You said white neighborhoods. You said those things. I didn’t say those things. … And when you press them and you see that little smile and then you know what that little smile was, Steve? That was his answer. Yes, I am.” (Posobiec, [11:41])
“How can he expect, how can you expect this seditious six DOJ to take action when they’re coming after Ed Martin and we can’t even get Schiff for mortgage fraud?” (Bannon, [25:46])
“ChatGPT was literally explaining how to tie a noose and how he could hang himself. … 560,000 that they admit are talking to the system about suicide. How many of them are children? No one really knows.” (Joe Allen, [29:21])
“Ted Cruz should be ashamed of himself and his staff should be ashamed of themselves. … It’s obscene.” ([33:31])
“Jenna Griswold belongs in jail. You’re going to jail, Jenna.” (Jack Posobiec, [47:14])
Trump on bipartisanship and the NYC mayoral win:
"There’s no difference in party ... we’re going to be helping him [Mamdani] to make everybody’s dream come true." ([00:42])
Jack Posobiec grilling Mamdani:
"So you intend to tax the whiter neighborhoods more?" ([02:25])
Mamdani’s succinct response:
"No, we intend to create a fair property tax system ... one every New Yorker can afford." ([02:28])
Bannon on media priorities:
"The press has eaten this thing up ... For some reason, the press has found this to be a very interesting meeting." ([02:34])
Jim Hoff on sedition:
"It was interesting ... that the media's reaction was ... upset with Trump for saying these people were Seditionists, and that it could be punishable by death." ([17:46])
Brian Kennedy on Tina Peters:
“Tina Peters is a political prisoner … I’m calling on President Trump … to use the power of the law ... get her out of solitary confinement.” ([37:27])
Joe Allen on AI’s risks:
"If you believe that these stories are completely insignificant ... explain why it is that there are so many people who have suffered under this." ([32:18])
This summary captures the major themes, tone, and specific highlights of Episode 4945. For those who missed it, the episode serves as a politically intense, combative, sometimes conspiratorial take on major news, race, AI, and justice as filtered through the War Room lens.