Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room – Episode 4952

Date: November 25, 2025
Main Theme:
The episode focuses on two primary themes: calls for accountability of political and military officials in the face of alleged “treasonous” behavior, and the importance of leveraging the U.S.'s economic strength to counter global adversaries without resorting to military action. Key topics also include the weaponization of government, challenges to the chain of command, U.S. global financial strategy, and emerging geopolitical flashpoints, especially concerning China, Russia, and Venezuela.

1. Segment: Weaponization, “Seditious Six,” and Accountability

Guest: Ambassador Richard Grenell (Former Director of National Intelligence)
Timestamps: 00:53 – 09:27

Key Discussion Points:

• Concerns Over Chain of Command
  Bannon frames the conversation with deep worries about national security confusion during kinetic global conflicts (Ukraine, Israel/Lebanon, Venezuela, China/Japan).

  • “I am more concerned than ever about causing confusion in the chain of command when we're in the kinetic part of the third World War.” (01:37 – Bannon)

• The "Seditious Six" & Allegations of Insurrection
  Grenell condemns a group of Democratic officials and former military/intelligence officers (“Seditious Six”) for encouraging civil servants to question or resist orders from President Trump, claiming it undermines democracy.

  • “What I think Alyssa Slotkin and Michiganders need to understand is…she duped people. And what we now know is Alyssa Slotkin is one of the most left wing leaders and is literally undermining our democracy.” (04:11 – Grenell)
  • “This is an insurrection to have people go out and say, you don't need to follow illegal orders.” (03:28 – Grenell)

• Media's Role
  Assertion that mainstream media is complicit in undermining Trump's administration for engagement and profit.

• Recommended Actions
  Grenell argues for aggressively holding federal employees accountable for insubordination—up to firing or court battles, if necessary.

  • “Anyone who stands in the way should resign or be fired, and we shouldn't even think twice about it.” (08:32 – Grenell)
  • Discussion of whether former Navy Captain/Senator Mark Kelly should be recalled to active duty and court-martialed for alleged violations—the argument being that public advocacy for insubordination among military members is sedition.
  • “They ought to be…recalled. You should recall Mark Kelly right now, and you should try him. You should court-martial him.” (32:32 – Bannon)

Notable Quotes:

• Bannon: “This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.” (00:02)
• Grenell: “They’re literally trolling the bureaucracy and the intelligence community for people who, who will say anything to undermine Donald Trump, undermine the duly elected leader…” (02:57)
• Bannon: “You're not a theoretician, you're a man of action. What action do you support…?” (05:45)

2. Segment: U.S. Economic Leverage and Global Finance

Guest: David Malpass (Former World Bank President, Treasury Official)
Timestamps: 09:29 – 20:50, 16:41 – 20:50, 29:13 – 20:50

Key Discussion Points:

• Economic Strength as Deterrence
  Malpass argues the U.S. is not effectively using its financial systems and international economic tools (sanctions, financial leverage) to the fullest, especially as an alternative to military intervention.

  • “China is eating our lunch in the debt repayments. So that's one issue. You know, peace through strength is a really powerful message that gets 80%, 90% of the country…” (10:25 – Malpass)
  • “I don't think we're using it enough systematically.” (10:59 – Malpass)

• Criticism of Global Institutions:
  The World Bank, IMF, and Paris Club are characterized as enabling America's adversaries and facilitating anti-dollar agendas, especially Chinese influence.

  • “It's one area we're not going in with a blowtorch…we have to de-weaponize these institutions which we fund, which are really used to basically finance America's enemies…” (12:37 – Bannon)
  • “…the control of the finance system by France, by China, through the Paris Club…debt initiatives…was basically a full frontal attack on the US dollar. They were explicit, saying they want to take it down.” (13:38 – Malpass)

• Rising Global Challenges to the Dollar:
  Discussion of BRICS nations and G20 efforts to reduce reliance on the U.S. dollar and promote de-dollarization.

  • “…central banks all work in order to have their currencies move up and down against each other rather than providing stability…we need a very firm platform of growth for the US…a supply side revolution…” (18:30 – Malpass)

Notable Quote:

• Malpass: “We have to wake up and say full stop to the global elite and the central bankers that run a lot of the, a lot of the money.” (12:01)

3. Segment: Texas, Islam, and Political Activism

Guest: Glenn Story (Patriot Mobile)
Timestamps: 20:53 – 26:01

Key Discussion Points:

• Executive Actions Against Muslim Brotherhood/CAIR
  Story credits political activism for Texas Governor Abbott’s move designating the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR as terrorist organizations in Texas, presenting it as a defense against an “Islamic takeover.”

  • “Saving Texas is the single most important thing that I believe that we could do today. Because you lose our Electoral College votes, it's all over…” (21:39 – Story)

• Activist Business Model
  Description of Patriot Mobile as a business funding activist conservative causes and prioritizing “God, country, and family.”

  • “…we are an activist organization, and we're funded by our cell phone service. It's really that simple.” (22:49 – Story)

4. Segment: Ukraine, Russia, and Risk of Escalation

Guest: Jack Posobiec (Host, Former Naval Officer)
Timestamps: 26:01 – 29:08

Key Discussion Points:

• Unstable Ukraine Peace Talks
  Posobiec warns that new U.S.-Ukraine agreements may be destabilizing, due to military size and aspiration for NATO-style security guarantees—reasoning that Russia likely wouldn’t accept these terms.
  • “…these are huge points of contention, by the way, NATO style guarantees, Article 5, style guarantees and the size of the military…” (27:02 – Posobiec)

5. Segment: The Debate over Military Code, Sedition, and Mutiny

Guests: Jack Posobiec, Captain Fennell (Naval Officer) Timestamps: 29:13 – 42:48

Key Discussion Points:

• Accusations of Mutiny and Sedition
  Intense discussion about whether public statements from retired military officials (specifically Mark Kelly) constitute sedition/suborn mutiny and thus merit court-martial.

  • “What you don't do is you sit up there and you suborn sedition and you suborn mutiny. That's what we call it in the Navy. That’s a born in mutiny.” (31:28 – Posobiec)
  • “He should be brought back on and go through the process of a court martial.” (37:47 – Captain Fennell)

• Chain of Command and Precedent
  Captain Fennell underscores the importance of military obedience—even if personal disagreements exist—and the potentially fatal consequences of undermining authority.

  • “…if a sailor doesn't want to obey the orders…you'll kill somebody. So you can kill somebody, even in peacetime, by your own impudence and personal pick…that's exactly the door that they opened.” (36:02 – Captain Fennell)

• Standard for Accountability
  Repeated calls for the same military legal standards to apply regardless of current civilian status, especially for those drawing military pensions.

Notable Quotes:

• Jack Posobiec: “If you have been taking the money and he has been taking the money, then that means he is bound by the Uniform Code of Military justice and as such can be called back to active service to stand court martial…” (32:47)
• Captain Fennell: “There was things that came down that maybe I personally disagreed with, but never in a million years would somebody conceive of saying, we don't obey the orders from the President of the United States, the commander in Chief. And that's just what they did.” (36:49)
• Captain Fennell: “I don't know one veteran. One veteran, and I know a few that have a different view than this. This is outrageous.” (42:35)

6. Segment: Breaking News and East Asia Update

Guest: Jack Posobiec, Captain Fennell
Timestamps: 44:49 – 51:29

Key Discussion Points:

• Leaked Text Messages
  Posobiec reveals texts allegedly from Senator Reuben Gallego trashing the Democrat party in private while defending the “Seditious Six” in public, highlighting perceived hypocrisy.

  • “They are liars. They are two faced. They will never admit that in public which they believe in private. These are Democrats…” (45:22 – Posobiec)

• Escalating Tensions: China and Japan
  Captain Fennell provides a detailed timeline of rising tensions between Japan and China, including explicit threats from the Chinese consul, economic measures against Japan, and Chinese maritime incursions in disputed territories.

  • “Within 24 hours, the PRC’s consul general in Osaka…said, we have no choice but to cut off the dirty neck that has been lunged at us without hesitation. Are you ready? Which is a very direct threat from a Chinese government official on Japanese soil…” (47:38 – Captain Fennell)
  • “…they went and took firm measures. They told all their citizens not to visit Japan…not to study in Japan…we’re not going to buy any more seafood…they sent Chinese coast guard vessels inside the territorial limits…” (48:46 – Captain Fennell)

• Neglect of China Focus
  Both Fennell and Posobiec warn that U.S. attention is fixated on the Middle East/Ukraine at the expense of the growing China threat.

  • “The buried lead is that we're spending too much time on the Middle East…not enough time with the main thing.” (50:44 – Bannon)
  • “…the way forward for the United States. That is the challenge of the 21st century.” (50:55 – Posobiec)

Notable Quotes & Moments

• Bannon on the explosion of global security risks:
  “We are in the kinetic part of the third World War.” (01:32)

• Grenell on bureaucracy disloyalty:
  “This entire Russia collusion hoax...is exactly what they’re trying to do now...So you have the bureaucracy and the intelligence community that are literally going after President Trump, leaking against him half truths, undermining him, taking him to courts to make sure that they're mounting this insurrection against him.” (06:41)

• Malpass on international financial institutions:
  “They keep getting bigger. The Trump budget has this IMF quota increase, the biggest in history...China…has such intense control of a lot of the institutions…” (13:18)

• Captain Fennell on military discipline:
  “Let’s have America go through and learn about what it is to do that. And let's talk about the history of our country. Let's talk about previous administrations...previous officers were held to account.” (37:57)

Conclusions / Takeaways

• The episode is a call to action for aggressive oversight and punishment of officials deemed disloyal or insubordinate, especially regarding the chain of command and executive authority.
• Strong criticism and skepticism are voiced towards mainstream media, international financial institutions, and global conferences perceived as anti-American or anti-Trump.
• Discussions emphasize leveraging U.S. economic power, reforming global financial institutions, and focusing more on the threat posed by China.
• Several guests and hosts call for legal or institutional action against public figures (especially those with military backgrounds) who they believe undermine the chain of command or the president’s authority.
• The episode closes with breaking news and urgent warnings about geopolitical shifts in Asia, particularly Chinese aggression towards Japan, which, according to hosts, requires more U.S. strategic focus.

Recommended Listen: For those interested in conservative political strategy, U.S. national security, and debates over bureaucratic and military loyalty, this episode features repeated high-energy calls for decisive action—always in a combative, urgent tone.