Episode Overview

Podcast: Bannon’s War Room
Episode: 4953 – FBI To Investigate The Seditious 6
Date: November 26, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon

Main Theme:
This episode centers on the FBI’s investigation into six Democratic lawmakers—the "Seditious 6"—for allegedly urging U.S. military personnel to refuse illegal orders, an act President Trump and supporters decry as sedition. The show also delves into civil-military relations, legal actions against these lawmakers, judicial conflicts involving Trump-era policies, AI advances via the "Genesis Mission," and an exploration of Western militant Christian tradition in response to historic and current threats.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. FBI Investigation of Six Lawmakers ("The Seditious 6") (00:00–06:14)

• Context: Six Democratic lawmakers (including Sen. Alyssa Slotkin, ex-CIA, and Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly) face FBI inquiries after a video where they advise service members to resist illegal orders.
• FBI Response: Director Cash Patel defends the inquiry, stating it depends on legal predicate:

  “That decision will be made by the career agents and analysts here at the FBI.” — Cash Patel [01:42]

• Pentagon Involvement: There's discussion of calling Sen. Mark Kelly back to active duty for possible court martial.
• Guest Commentary: Some guests argue these lawmakers' actions insult the chain of command and undermine trust in the military.
  • “The message to me was…we don’t trust the military [leadership]…I would completely disagree with that underlying assessment…” — Guest [02:18]
• Bannon’s View: Frames the FBI action as necessary retribution, warns against Congress members' public calls to resist authority.

  “This is a deep crisis…This has to be dealt with immediately…I think recalling Kelly to active duty and court martialing him…the senior officer…ought to be dealt with.” — Steve Bannon [08:00]

• Historical Analogies: References to George Washington’s subordination to Congress and the risk of military coups (Civil War, McClellan).

2. The Crisis in Civil-Military Relations (06:14–11:40)

• Dr. Bradley Thayer: Emphasizes the importance of “objective civilian control” over the military, highlighting US professionalism vs. politicized forces like China or the Soviet Union.
  • “What these six have done…undermining…objective civilian control…the heart of the most successful civil-military relationship in history.” — Dr. Thayer [06:23]
  • “It is a crime.” — Dr. Thayer [11:07]
• Concerns Raised:
  • Undermining trust and discipline in the ranks.
  • Setting a precedent for politicizing the military.

3. Legal Maneuvers Against the 'Deep State' and Judicial Controversies (11:46–22:09)

• Julie Kelly Segment:
  • Coverage of Judge Jeb Bosberg’s criminal contempt proceedings targeting Trump-era officials for alleged defiance of court orders concerning immigration (Venezuelan deportations).
  • ACLU seeking to call DOJ/DHS officials for testimony.
  • Reports of aggressive judicial actions, secrecy (gag orders), and whistleblower testimony (Erez Rubini).
  • Suggests proceedings are politically motivated to harm Emil Bovey’s Supreme Court prospects.
    • “This is going to be another attempt to drag his name through the mud as he’s sitting on the Third Circuit Court of Appeals.” — Julie Kelly [21:24]
  • Bannon calls for Bosberg’s impeachment as a remedy.
    • “Bossberg has to be impeached.” — Steve Bannon [19:56]

4. Election Integrity and Legal Strategies – Tina Peters Case (22:12–27:28)

• Ivan Raiklin with General Flynn:
  • Argues for prompt legal action to extract Tina Peters (Colorado election official), labeling Democrats as “seditious conspirators.”
  • Proposes direct DOJ action and federal charges, invoking evidence from Mike Lindell and attorney Kurt Olsen.
    • “There is no one better positioned to expose the evidence of the 2020 electoral heist…than Kurt Olson.” — Ivan Raiklin [26:22]
  • Bannon and Raiklin push for aggressive, immediate prosecution against state officials linked to alleged voter fraud.

5. AI Policy: Genesis Mission and U.S. National Labs (31:16–38:45)

• Trump Administration Executive Order:
  • Launches the Genesis Mission—integrating AI and quantum computing across 17 federal Department of Energy labs.
  • Purpose: Accelerate biotech, materials science, chips, quantum, and nuclear tech; likened to a new Manhattan Project for AI.
• Joe Allen, AI Analyst:
  • Warns of the risks and immense power in aggregating national datasets for autonomous scientific experiments.
    • “Genesis mission will transform how science is done in America…built on artificial intelligence and quantum computing…” — Joe Allen quoting promotional copy [33:04]
  • Expresses concern about potential loss of public control and the risk of competing with the Chinese Communist Party.
    • “These five [sectors]…drive you to a thing called the singularity, do they not, sir?” — Bannon [35:14]
  • Bannon proposes American citizens should own significant equity in resultant AI companies.
    • “American citizens own how much equity? So in the 90 days, they assess…The opening bid is 50%.” — Steve Bannon [37:06]

6. Historical Perspective – Militant Christianity and the Muslim Brotherhood (41:17–47:41)

• With Author Raymond Ibrahim:
  • Promotes his new book, The Two Swords of Christ, exploring the “warrior monk” orders’ role in defending Christianity.
    • “[The book] literally looks at the two swords of Christ…the most pious men…were also the most militant.” — Raymond Ibrahim [41:47]
  • Draws a line from medieval Christian militancy to the need for modern, principled resistance against external threats (tying to contemporary policy on the Muslim Brotherhood).
  • Critiques “doormat” Christianity and advocates for a return to chivalric just war traditions.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "The FBI is now working to schedule interviews with Slotkin and the five other Democrats who appear in that video urging US Service members simply to not comply with any illegal order." — Host summarizing FBI action [00:48]
• "Totally agree with everything [Senator Kelly] just said. However, he could have taken a step back and said, why am I...sending this message? Which clearly is an insult to our chain of command." — Guest [02:43]
• "Donald Trump believes that the US Military should be his personal muscle…he owns the military like he owns buildings…" — Bannon [03:45]
• "Because the great strength of our civil military relations…is where civilians order the military what to do, the military obeys." — Dr. Thayer [06:14]
• "What they have done is...undermining the heart of civil military relations…this is unpatriotic, supremely dangerous." — Dr. Thayer [10:09]
• "The ACLU…list numerous DOJ, even DHS officials who they want to testify…about behind the scenes deliberations…" — Julie Kelly [12:36]
• "In the 90 days, they assess…what the ownership [should be] of the American people. And the opening bid is 50%." — Bannon on national AI lab equity [37:06]
• "There is no one better positioned to expose the evidence of the 2020 electoral heist…than Kurt Olson." — Ivan Raiklin [26:22]
• "If the Europeans...had not fought back...Christianity would have been snuffed out." — Raymond Ibrahim quoting T. Roosevelt [44:35]

Important Timestamps

• 00:00–06:14: FBI investigation and political fallout for the “Seditious 6”.
• 06:14–11:46: Dr. Bradley Thayer on civil-military relations and precedent.
• 12:23–22:12: Julie Kelly on legal maneuvering, contempt proceedings, and judicial bias.
• 22:59–27:28: Ivan Raiklin and Bannon strategize legal action in the Tina Peters and election integrity saga.
• 31:16–38:45: Joe Allen on the "Genesis Mission"—national labs, AI, and technological policy.
• 41:17–47:41: Raymond Ibrahim discusses historical Christian militancy and its modern lessons.

Additional Episode Notes

• Show resists mainstream and Democratic narratives, framing events as existential issues for American civil rights, sovereignty, and tradition.
• Bannon and guests frequently draw on historical parallels to frame current events as part of an ongoing battle between constitutionalists and perceived subversive forces.
• Ongoing emphasis on proactive, unapologetic legal and political action rather than incrementalism or waiting for institutional permission.
• Multiple references to upcoming specials, investigative journalism, and calls to action for audience activism.

For More Information

• Dr. Bradley Thayer: X: @BradThayer, Getter
• Julie Kelly: Substack: Declassified with Julie Kelly, X: @julie_kelly2
• Joe Allen: X: @OEBot_XYZ, Frontier Magazine
• Raymond Ibrahim: RaymondIbrahim.com
• WarRoom.org: Full episode archive and additional commentary

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