Bannon’s War Room – Episode 4954: Special Session On Redistricting In Indiana
Date: November 26, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Notable Guests: Alex DeGrasse, Joy Pullman, Joe Allen, various political commentators and activists
Main Theme and Purpose
This episode centers on current political controversies and campaign strategies, with a sharp focus on special sessions regarding redistricting in Indiana, ongoing investigations into Democratic lawmakers and military officials, deep tensions over military obedience and chain of command under Trump, the entrenchment of bureaucratic resistance to Trump administration directives (particularly in military reinstatements), and the influence of big tech and AI regulation on future policy battles. Throughout, Stephen K. Bannon and his guests emphasize grassroots action and fighting both establishment Republicans and Democrats to “take the fight to the opposition” on multiple fronts.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Military, Obedience, and Chain of Command Under Trump
- Background: Six Democratic lawmakers, all former military or intelligence members, released a video urging service members to refuse unlawful orders. This incited President Trump, who demanded their arrest for sedition.
- FBI/DOJ Investigation: The FBI is arranging interviews with those lawmakers (00:00).
- Legal/Military Analysis: Dismissal of top Pentagon legal advisers has made it harder for commanders to receive sound legal advice, prompting lawmakers to publicly remind the military to obey the Constitution, not unlawful commands (04:29).
- Quote: “These members of Congress who have extensive, admirable military service, said the simplest thing possible, which is people in the military swear an oath to the Constitution, not to a president.”
—Legal/Military Analyst, (05:28)
- Quote: “These members of Congress who have extensive, admirable military service, said the simplest thing possible, which is people in the military swear an oath to the Constitution, not to a president.”
- Bannon’s Take: Bannon demands swift and severe action against Senator Mark Kelly, who participated in the video. He calls for immediate recall to active duty and court-martial before December 10th (07:17, 11:39).
- Quote: “Recall Kelly today. ... convene a court martial for him... get a verdict by Sunday and throw him in Leavenworth by Monday. ... The other five are going to wet themselves.”
—Stephen K. Bannon, (12:17)
- Quote: “Recall Kelly today. ... convene a court martial for him... get a verdict by Sunday and throw him in Leavenworth by Monday. ... The other five are going to wet themselves.”
2. Culture Wars and “Protection of Women” Rhetoric
- Activist Segment: Lively exchange with a political candidate and an activist questioning their position on trans women in women’s spaces, sports, and prisons (02:20–04:29).
- Quote: “There are no trans kids, there are just children. Stop transforming children. ... It’s wrong. It’s abuse.”
—Activist, (03:27–04:29)
- Quote: “There are no trans kids, there are just children. Stop transforming children. ... It’s wrong. It’s abuse.”
- Bannon Reaction: Praises activist “Tish Hyman” for confronting establishment politicians (08:33).
3. Redistricting and Republican Infighting in Indiana
- Special Session Movement: Alex DeGrasse details recent wins in getting the Indiana state House and Senate to convene for special sessions to address redistricting, largely due to mounting grassroots and Trump-driven pressure (21:31).
- Quote: “The House is convening, and we’ve got the votes 9, 0... That’s going to happen next week. And then the following week the state Senate reversed course...”
—Alex DeGrasse, (21:31)
- Quote: “The House is convening, and we’ve got the votes 9, 0... That’s going to happen next week. And then the following week the state Senate reversed course...”
- Critical Importance: Winning these “redistricting wars” is portrayed as essential to setting the political battlefield for 2026 and beyond. Bannon urges listeners not to look too far ahead and stay tactical: “You gotta get in the trenches. ... Win these redistricting wars.” (24:10)
4. GOP Establishment vs. MAGA
- GOP Inaction: Bannon and panelists argue that establishment Republicans intentionally do nothing to aid Trump or the MAGA agenda, viewing Trump as a “passing summer storm” (19:44, 19:48).
- Quote: “They talk MAGA, but they don’t act. ... They see Trump as a passing summer storm.”
—Stephen K. Bannon, (19:48)
- Quote: “They talk MAGA, but they don’t act. ... They see Trump as a passing summer storm.”
- Democratic Attacks: Democrats are described as being much more aggressive and effective in deploying money and resources, while Republican leadership is “cub scouts” and “wimps” compared to “Bolsheviks” (29:19–30:17).
- Quote: “The Republican leadership only pays attention to money, right?... Republicans are Cub Scouts, as usual.”
—Political Commentator, (29:19–30:17)
- Quote: “The Republican leadership only pays attention to money, right?... Republicans are Cub Scouts, as usual.”
5. Tennessee Special Election Concerns
- Alarming Polls: DeGrasse highlights a Tennessee congressional district where the GOP lead has shrunk from +22 to +2, warning that a Democratic win would embolden national Democrats to pour money into red states (25:18–26:29).
- Quote: “If we let this one slip up, the implications going into the midterms are a disaster because you're going to see Democrat money flooding like you can't imagine...”
—Alex DeGrasse, (26:29)
- Quote: “If we let this one slip up, the implications going into the midterms are a disaster because you're going to see Democrat money flooding like you can't imagine...”
6. Deep State, Bureaucracy, and Military COVID Mandate Reversals
- Joy Pullman on Military “Resistance”: Investigation reveals bureaucratic slow-walking and active resistance in the military to Trump’s executive order reinstating those discharged over the COVID vaccine mandate. Only 13 of an estimated 95,000 have been reinstated due to entrenched, Biden- and Obama-aligned personnel resisting orders (32:27–38:45).
- Quote: “The resistance had just told the Commander in Chief to go screw himself. Am I correct?”
—Stephen K. Bannon, (36:56) - Joy Pullman: “Exactly. ... The bureaucrats ... have government sinecures for life.”
- Quote: “The resistance had just told the Commander in Chief to go screw himself. Am I correct?”
- Civil Service Protection: Key personnel, e.g., Stephanie Miller, are shielded from firing by civil service rules, and have personal and financial ties to the vaccine industry (36:56–38:45).
7. Big Tech, AI, and Moratorium Fight
- Joe Allen on AI “Moratorium” Battle: New “pro-human” PAC (Public First) launches to counter tech billionaires’ influence on national AI policy—major fight over federal vs. state regulations, with massive lobbying money on both sides (40:50–42:59).
- Quote: “You got more regulations on nail salons on Capitol Hill than you have on the Frontier Labs.”
—Stephen K. Bannon, (42:59)
- Quote: “You got more regulations on nail salons on Capitol Hill than you have on the Frontier Labs.”
- China, National Security, and Technology: Intense criticism of Republican tech and finance figures for wanting to export AI chips to China; urge for strict export controls and for the U.S. public to benefit from AI investments (43:07–47:28).
- Quote: “If you’re going to finance things, you’re going to have to get a taste now. ... They will scream holy hell before they give you anything.”
—Bannon, (46:32)
- Quote: “If you’re going to finance things, you’re going to have to get a taste now. ... They will scream holy hell before they give you anything.”
- Federal vs. State AI Regulation: Urgency for states to impose their own protections if Congress fails. Moratoriums would block states acting “to benefit the people producing and deploying [AI], not the American people” (47:28–49:57).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “Recall Kelly today. ... convene a court martial for him... get a verdict by Sunday and throw him in Leavenworth by Monday.”
—Stephen K. Bannon, (12:17) - “There are no trans kids, there are just children. Stop transforming children. ... It’s wrong. It’s abuse.”
—Activist at town hall, (03:27–04:29) - “The resistance had just told the Commander in Chief to go screw himself. Am I correct?”
—Stephen K. Bannon, (36:56) - “You got more regulations on nail salons on Capitol Hill than you have on the Frontier Labs.”
—Bannon, (42:59) - “If you’re going to finance things, you’re going to have to get a taste now. ... They will scream holy hell before they give you anything.”
—Bannon, (46:32)
Timestamps – Important Segments
- 00:00–01:49 — News segment on FBI, DOJ, and Democratic lawmakers' video.
- 01:49–04:29 — Emotional debate on trans issues, women’s safety, and politics.
- 04:29–06:28 — Legal analysis: removing military legal advisers and constitutional implications.
- 07:17–14:31 — Bannon & panelists discuss severity of Democrat actions, demand for court-martial, U.S. relations with Russia, critique of Deep State/CIA.
- 19:44–21:31 — GOP establishment critique; Bannon on Republican sabotage of MAGA/Trump agenda.
- 21:31–25:18 — Alex DeGrasse: Indiana redistricting, legislative maneuvers, importance for 2026/2028.
- 25:18–27:37 — Tennessee special election emergency: turnout, money, Democratic strategy.
- 32:27–39:50 — Joy Pullman: Bureaucratic resistance, COVID military reinstatements, civil service protections, corruption.
- 40:50–49:57 — Joe Allen: AI regulation fight, PAC launches, national vs. state regulation, China, tech billionaires.
Conclusion
This episode is a full-spectrum political war room strategy session, mixing real-time reporting (Indiana redistricting, Tennessee special election), big-picture culture war rhetoric, scathing criticism of establishment Republicans, and alarm over bureaucratic resistance and big tech influence. Bannon repeatedly exhorts listeners to “take action” immediately, whether in the trenches of election fights, pressuring state legislatures, or preparing for regulatory battles over artificial intelligence.
Contact Info for Notable Guests:
- Alex DeGrasse: @DeGrasse81 (X, Truth Social, Getter)
- Joy Pullman: Search “Joy Pullman The Federalist” or @JoyPullman (X)
- Joe Allen: JoeBot.xyz, @JoeBot (social media)
For those who could not listen, this summary distills the episode’s blend of hardline activism, provocative rhetoric, and inside-baseball campaign maneuvering—all in the tone and urgency characteristic of Bannon’s War Room.
