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Episode 4962: Zelensky Begs For Help As American Trust Wanes

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Sat Nov 29 2025

Episode 4962: Zelensky Begs For Help As American Trust Wanes ...

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room, Episode 4962

Title: Zelensky Begs For Help As American Trust Wanes
Date: November 29, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Notable Guests: Jack Posobiec, Kevin Posobiec, Ben Harnwell, Royce White, Taj Gil, Brett Galachevsky

Main Theme

This episode centers on waning American public and political support for Ukraine as President Zelensky seeks renewed Western aid and security guarantees, amid escalating reports of corruption in the Ukrainian government. The War Room panel offers scathing critiques of both U.S. and European political leadership in relation to Ukraine—accusing them of promoting distraction from domestic crises, mishandling foreign policy, and enabling grift within the war effort. The episode also broadens into U.S. domestic concerns: immigration, urban decline, Republican Party infighting, and the mounting challenges for Donald Trump’s agenda.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. American Sovereignty vs. Ukrainian Sovereignty (00:51–04:49)

Steve Bannon opens by questioning the logic of guaranteeing Ukraine’s sovereignty when the U.S. is struggling to maintain its own, especially in cities overwhelmed by illegal immigration.
Bannon attacks U.S. politicians and media for ignoring what he describes as endemic corruption in Ukraine, referencing casualties and lost resources.
Quote:
“It's impossible for us to guarantee the sovereignty of Ukraine. We ain't guaranteed the sovereignty of the United States of America...” (Steve Bannon, 01:34)
Jack Posobiec argues European governments use the war as a distraction from their own failures—rising crime, mass immigration, economic woes.
Posobiec praises Poland for closing its borders and defying EU pressure on cultural issues, implying Western Europe has lost its way due to globalist policies.

2. Corruption & Lost Cause in Ukraine (04:49–10:23)

Kevin Posobiec recounts firsthand experiences in Ukraine, witnessing black market arms sales and widespread corruption.
- “...when we sent the first $40 billion over to Ukraine, and we witnessed all the black market weapons sales, and they wanted us to...” (Kevin Posobiec, 04:49)
Both Posobiec brothers argue the Ukrainian cause was militarily unwinnable from early on, but key U.S. political and media figures misled the public.
Memorable moment: Kevin observes Americans were flying more Ukrainian flags than Ukrainians themselves:
"What I didn't see is... any American T shirts or any American flags. They're not up in any of those houses." (Kevin Posobiec, 09:56)
Discussion asserts aid is diverted away from Ukrainian civilians, who remain impoverished.

3. Switching Focus: U.S. Urban Decline & Immigration (10:23–12:36)

Bannon insists U.S. sovereignty—in devastated cities like Minneapolis—should take priority over Ukraine.
President Trump’s deployment of troops to sanctuary cities and ICE operations is praised as reclaiming American sovereignty.

4. Media, Intelligence, and Corruption in Ukraine (16:49–26:37)

Ben Harnwell alleges media (Wall Street Journal, Murdoch outlets) and potentially U.S. intelligence sat on evidence of massive corruption by Ukrainian presidential aide Yermak:
- “That means that that underlines everything that the war room's been saying for three and a half years about FOX lying to people about keeping this war going.” (Ben Harnwell, 18:44)
Harnwell argues Yermak’s ouster signals a “pivot” from military aid (the “mother of all grifts”) to lucrative reconstruction contracts.
He predicts further regime change, suggesting Zelensky will also be ousted now that his regime’s usefulness is ending.

5. Republican Infighting and Legislative Inertia (30:42–36:52)

Brett Galachevsky (Turning Point Action): Focuses on internal GOP struggles in Indiana over redistricting—warning that “Republican in name only” (RINO) politicians may cost the party the House majority.
He underscores the need for grassroots mobilization and MAGA-aligned Republicans to pass advantageous district maps.
Quote:
“The scary reality check… is that it very well could be legislators in Indiana… that… could potentially [cost us] the majority in the House...” (Brett Galachevsky, 31:49)

6. Afghanistan, Immigration, and Violence (26:41–29:13; 36:52–39:44)

Taj Gil reflects on Afghan allies abandoned after U.S. withdrawal, noting many were loyal, but destitution and abrupt policy shifts forced some into desperation and violence.
He voices little surprise that a “CIA-trained” Afghan could turn violent after such abandonment:
- "I'm just saying they once were a loyal force, and then we abandoned them. And now they’re broke on the street… guess what? They're trained killers. So this is what happens." (Taj Gil, 37:57)

7. Urban Crisis in Minneapolis & Immigration’s Political Impact (43:11–50:03)

Royce White: Describes Minneapolis as having become “Mogadishu” due to immigration, corruption, and Democratic Socialist policies.
He calls for mass deportations to reverse decline, arguing Somali immigrants are exploited to sway state elections and facilitate government grift.
- “The 200,000 Somalians… make up enough of a percentage to really swing these elections…” (Royce White, 46:39)
White also criticizes “civil rights movement” politics and how DEI funding is misused.

8. Broader Critique of Republican Establishment (43:44–45:13)

Bannon lists ways the GOP establishment—especially the Senate—fails to help Trump: not supporting filibuster reform, redistricting, appointments, or budget cuts.
He warns that inertia and lack of support will sabotage the conservative agenda and Trump’s ability to govern if re-elected.

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

Steve Bannon (00:02):
“This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we’re going medieval on these people…”
Jack Posobiec (02:37):
“The Western governments of Europe right now want to keep the war going because they want to use the threat of Russia as a distraction from the collapse of their own countries…”
Kevin Posobiec (05:23):
“This lovely, lovely Ukrainian women lured us in.” (Lighthearted moment about their 2022 Ukraine reporting trip.)
Steve Bannon (11:43):
“Trump…sent the troops in to back up ICE because the elites don’t want the ICE raids and to back up police officers on the crime...reestablishing American sovereignty in our biggest and greatest cities…”
Ben Harnwell (24:49):
“...We're at the pivot point where the grift will switch from arms manufacturer to reconstruction.”
Royce White (46:39):
“1000% with no equivocations…nothing's happened about it. Nobody wants to even say it… But it’s not happening. These people are organized…an absolute scam.”

Timestamps for Key Segments

00:51–04:49: Opening discussion—U.S. vs. Ukraine sovereignty, corruption, disillusionment with Western elites.
04:49–10:23: Personal reporting from Ukraine, U.S. aid corruption, symbolic disconnect.
12:36–13:17: ICE, domestic security, and the prioritization of U.S. urban renewal.
16:49–26:37: Deep dive on the Yermak corruption story, media/institutional complicity, Washington’s “pivot.”
30:42–36:52: GOP redistricting fight in Indiana, importance for future majorities.
36:52–39:44: Afghanistan war aftermath, abandoned allies, emergent violence.
43:11–50:03: Minneapolis as “Mogadishu,” mass deportations, Democratic use of immigration, grift.
43:44–45:13: Bannon’s list of Republican establishment failures.

Tone and Language

The episode is combative, urgent, and conspiratorial, particularly in its condemnation of “globalists,” establishment Republicans, and the media. The panel favors populist, nationalist, and hard-right rhetoric—expressing deep skepticism of foreign entanglements and the ability (or willingness) of legacy institutions to represent the interests of ordinary Americans.

Conclusion

This episode offers a bleak appraisal of Ukraine’s war, Western political leadership, and the current state of the U.S. domestic agenda—arguing that the time, money, and focus spent on Ukraine have come at the expense of U.S. sovereignty, security, and prosperity. The panel calls for a return to populist priorities, a purge of corrupt influence at home and abroad, and a renewed—almost isolationist—focus on “saving our country first.”

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Transcript

Steve Bannon (0:02)

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Prison's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

Jack Posobiec (0:43)

War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

Steve Bannon (0:51)

Saturday 29th November Year of alert 2025 we talk about posopics, the brothers Posobic again Ben when we talk about guaranteeing the sovereignty of Ukraine or giving them security guarantees, look what the American people are going to depend upon because Yermac is not alone, he is an example, he's a manifestation of their political class. Yes. Do they have some honest people over there? There's no bit doubt. They've got tons of courageous people. Hell, They've taken what, 1.75 million casualties, dead and wounded so far. But the fact is it's a corrupt, it's endemically corrupt. Jack Bosobic, your thoughts on this entire situation in the Ukraine, particularly as people are running around tossing out oh, we'll get. It's impossible for us to guarantee the sovereignty of Ukraine. We ain't guaranteed the sovereignty of the United States of America until we go into New York City with ice and troops and go to the number one sanctuary city in the country and clear it all out. Clear it all out and send them all home. And let's get the 15 million illegal aliens that are here sucking down resources, causing crime, destroying the school system, destroying the health care system for the working poor until we get them all out, and I mean all of them, we don't have our own sovereignty. And you get a guy like Yermak and he's a manifestation. I just want to repeat, you were in the White House right after the Alaska trip. Jack, he's walking around like a big shot. When President Trump had all the NATO guys over here to call their bluff. They're going to give money, they're going to give arms, they're going to do this, they're going to do that. They're not doing anything because they're all broke, they have no troops, they have no arms, they have no political will.

Jack Posobiec (2:37)

Jack Bosobic well, Steve, that's exactly right. And they're all the Western gov. Look, it's very simple. The Western governments of Europe right now want to keep the war going because they want to use the threat of Russia as a distraction from the collapse of their own countries from within. They don't want anyone focused on the cost of living, the fact that it's been driven up by this war with all the energy prices, the destruction of Nord Stream 2. They don't want anyone focusing on the mass invasion of third worlders and Middle Easterners into places like France, like England. Tommy Robinson, they throw him into jail every time he tries to expose it. Italy, all the rest of them, they don't want anyone focused on that because if they start to realize, and Ben, of course in Italy can, can attest they don't want anyone focused on these things because they want them worried. Oh, no, you got to worry about this distraction over here. You got to worry about this thing at the end of the continent. You got to worry about this. Don't, don't pay attention to all the, the little girls being raped all across Europe. Don't pay, you know, don't pay attention to all people being murdered, all the children who are being killed. It's sick, it's disgusting. And then you got people up there saying, oh, well, you know, we need the tika masala, we need the chicken tikka masala. So that's why they got to all come. It's horrifying. But Steve, I'll tell you this. There is a place in Eastern Europe where you don't have to worry about these things. And it's called Poland. And Poland didn't take any of them in ever. Because Poland understands a little thing called your culture, your faith, your people and standing pressure. Look, they're putting pressure on Navrotsky right now. Why? Because he refuses to acknowledge gay marriage. Because he said, no, I will not respect same sex marriage. We don't recognize it in the, in Poland. We've never recognized it in Poland. This is our Catholic belief. And I will veto any bill that comes to my desk that, that recognizes this. Now, the EU is putting pressure on him and he's telling to go pound sand and the Polish people are with him. We will hold the borders. We'll hold it clear. And look, this like you mentioned, by the way, the fact that the Ukrainians won't, you know, won't surrender, even though they're taking a pounding, they've lost A lot of people. That's how it is in Eastern Europe. All right, you get us going, KE Rev. Yeah, you get us going. We don't exactly want to. Are ever the ones who say it's time to stop fighting, are we?

Steve Bannon (5:47)

So in May of 22, and I think you guys took the night train down to Odessa. You guys told me, you know, and he came on the show multiple times and you were saying, hey, this thing, militarily, it's not winnable for the Ukrainians. It was obvious then. It was obvious to you guys who went there and spent like a week or so, that it was obvious that the Russians would. Would put up any place in two was obvious, and the corruption was obvious. And this was hidden from the American people officially by Lindsey Graham, by the Biden regime, by the people doing the color revolution on us. They're the same ones in back of instigating all the problems in Ukraine. And now we know because the walls are closing in on Zelensky at the worst moment. He's trying to negotiate and trying to say, we have to be part of NATO. We have to have an American guarantee on our sovereignty. Can you think how idiotic that is? How are we going to guarantee the sovereignty of Ukraine? It's run by the most corrupt people on earth. How are you going to. They could trade you out at any time and you're going to guarantee. You're going to guarantee their sovereignty with a cast of characters like that? You guys called this a couple years ago. Ben Harnwell called it on the eve of the. Of the star of the war with what Boris Johnson and people were doing. This has all been driven by the political class and the globalists in Europe and the United States, the Atlanticists. And now they're left with a horrible defeat. The Russians have won on the battlefield, and thank God for the Ukrainian people haven't taken Odessa yet. But to sit there and say they have to have all these terms and they have to have security guarantees, they have to have the guarantee of their sovereignty. How are you going to guarantee Ukraine's sovereignty when a guy like Yermek, until 48 hours ago, was the number two guy in the government, Stolen hundreds of millions of dollars. They will take money from anybody. You don't know what deals are ever going to cut. And we're going to secure their sovereignty. It's ins. Insanity. It's total insanity. You're putting an obligation on the American people right now when we still got 15 million illegal aliens in the country and the ones we've led in the country, that all should be turfed out immediately. Royce White's gonna be on here in a minute. Tell you what a disaster. Minneapolis is one of the great cities in our country now. It's like Mogadishu. Mogadishu. And we're talking about guaranteeing the sovereignty of Ukraine. You guys have been there. How big. How big a commitment is. Is the United States of America for now and in the future guaranteeing the Bloodlands? Sir?

Steve Bannon (13:49)

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Ben Harnwell (20:39)

MAGA currently controls the, the executive if not the House in name only. Let's call John Ratcliffe and find out what did the CIA know about earmax corruption, when did it know it and why has it been suppressing this? That's, that's the second point that comes off from that. Thirdly Steve, my, my point is more concerning about the timing of this. This broke yesterday on Black Friday. I like everyone else in America, we were all off doing sort of various other things thinking that there's going to be no news. Why did they get rid of this guy at probably the worst time for, for a news cycle? There's something in that and of course people are going to say firstly that means that the mainstream media is going to cooperate in the burial of this story. That's going to go down the memory hole. And then if you mention it, they're going to say, oh, well, look, he's gone. He was raided by the corruption people and then he resigned. That's the system working. They're going to lie to you. They're going to look you in the eye and they're going to lie to you and gaslight you. My fear about this, Steve, and I hand back to you on this point, is to do with the timing of this. I have been, as I've said on the show, for quite some time. I am extremely concerned about some of the pressure that the US Administration is putting on Ukraine right now. Like the commitment part of the plan was to have elections within 100 days, which obviously Zelensky one will presume he's going to lose. And to see that Andre Yermak, the chief of staff, Ukraine's lead negotiator with the United States, has been forced out at this point. Look, I'm sensing a pivot is in action here, and I think, I'm guessing that the US Is behind it. My standing presumption, I have no evidence for this. My standing presumption, however, is that it's the US that told Zelensky this guy has got to go. And it's a precursor, of course, for him going as well. This all follows on the golden toilet thing, right? Is the precursor for getting Zelensky out. Why am I so concerned? Because getting out the most toxic, poisonous representative of Ukraine at this time and confecting the great switcheroo of bringing in Ambassador General Zaluzhny, currently exiled in London, is the means of keeping something going. And by the way, I'm not talking about war here. I have never said on this show that the war is the mother of all grift. What I said, what I repeatedly said about the mother of all grifts is that's the reconstruction of Ukraine. And my fear is that the administration is somewhat involved in getting out Yerem Makina because the pivot is already an act and they're trying to move from the military aspect of this grift to the reconstruction side. This is no news. However, I'll close you at this point, hand back to you. Look, what have we called Zielinski? For three and a half years on this show, we've called him 10% ski because the, the, the, the grift was so well known and so, so visible, so in your face. That's exactly the respect we showed this guy. We called him President 10%. That's the regime he's been leading and the mainstream media and Fox and all the other sort of so called MAGA adjacent US organizations outside of real America's Voice and have been saying oh this is Zelensky's the new church and what have you. They have all been looking the American people in the eye and lying to them. This guy, the most important man in Ukraine, I'd say he was more important even than Zelensky himself has been running a grifting operation pulling out hundreds of millions of dollars of American taxpayer dollars intended for aid in Ukraine and he's been siphoning them off and the Wall Street Journal knew about it. The, the Murdoch empire knew about it. I guess American intelligence knew about it and nobody said anything. Now they're getting rid of him because they're pivoting to something else. That is my fear.

Brett Galachevsky (33:56)

Well, the end goal here is Indiana has an opportunity with President Trump's redistrict plan to go from 72 Republican controlled seats to 9 0. Just the way that Indiana's landscape shapes up with relatively speaking, a very conservative leaning metropolitan area in comparison to other Midwestern metro areas. The plan on the table is to get Indiana to 9 0. The problem is right now there are Republicans that are refusing to vote for this for a number of reasons. Really what it comes down to is pettiness, tyranny and self righteousness. But our plan is at turning point action to come in, send a message to these Republican senators and you know, Republican in quotation marks who are refusing to advance President Trump's agenda to say, look, the Republican base, the ones who knock doors until their knuckles bleed to get you elected. And in some cases in districts that are Trump +20 are not going to stand for you going against the reasons why we worked so hard to elect you. And more so than just the grassroots base that gets them elected, the people that elected them themselves again in Trump plus 20 districts in many cases are not going to stand for A major step backwards in Indiana when we have a six seat majority right now in the House of Representatives and Gavin Newsom just takes five Republican seats off the table with the prop that was just voted on in November, Indiana has an opportunity to completely reverse course and really change the course of history. I mean, we could talk about a little bit what could happen if we lose the House next year. They will make the Trump administration's life extremely hard. They will put up roadblocks. So our event on Friday at the Indiana State House, at the Indiana Capitol in the Rotunda will hopefully send that message. We want to rally hundreds of Indiana's conservative faithful to make that message clear that Indiana needs to go nine. Oh, this redistricting plan needs to pass and we need to win the House next year.

Steve Bannon (40:46)

Do it this weekend. Taj Gil, thank you. And thank you for your insight. Afghanistan. I know, I know you and your compadres there, when you went back as contractors and work with more of the CIA types, that takes real courage, because that's as dangerous it can get. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. One thing on this Indiana situation, I just want to make sure people know this is that the Republican establishment Now, I think. I think the media's got the Story Magazine. You know this magazine. No, no, no. What? That's Noise Signal is what the Republican establishment is doing. What are they doing? They're not breaking the filibuster incentive. President says, I need this. There's a couple things we needed on. If we don't get that done, we're cooked. There's no movement on the filibuster in the Senate. Let's be honest about it. There's no help by the Republican establishment on redistricting at all. This is all 100% grassroots now. Turning points involved in the Indiana. Indiana shows you the establishment. But it's been in Texas, it's all over in Kansas and Nebraska. So the establishment is not helping on redistributing at all. Number three, there are no recess appointments. President Trump's people are still not getting appointed. In fact, Bridge Colby's two deputies are not even being voted at a committee. None of President Trump's appointees, which he desperately needs, are moving forward and they're not giving him a recess appointment. The Senate does not trust him enough soon in these guys to go on an official recess, which they're taking all the time next year. The House is only in for, I think, 100 days. There's no removal of the blue slips for the U.S. attorneys or the judges. He's asked for that. Mike Davis even said that it's an antiquated system, the blue slips that give the Democrats all this leverage against the president. Not going to do it. They don't support the $2,000 rebate on the. On the tariffs. There's no establishment support at all for impoundments, rescissions, pocket rescissions. Nothing from President Trump to cut the budget. There's no real support of his at all to cut a tougher deal in the Ukraine. Lindsey Graham. These guys continue to support all of it. The Republican establishment does not have Trump's back at all.

Steve Bannon (43:11)

I might add. I could go on with that list. Remember the deconstruction, administrative state, the riffs? They didn't even support Trump on the downsizing of the federal government. Not at all. They some happy talk. They'll go on Fox or the Wall Street Journal gives some happy talk. But there's no support from the Duma for his actions. The Republican establishment see him more and more as a passing storm. It's not. President Trump is leader of the most important political movement, I think, in the country's history, but certain, certainly in the 20th and 21st century that has saved this country and he's got all the burdens on his shoulders. It can't be like that. It's got to be a team that hits it every day. When President Trump has an idea, when President Trump signs an executive order, when he does an executive memorandum or does a decision memorandum. There's got to be people through the system that force it through and get it done. And we're burning daylight and you're 100% correct. We can't talk about other elections. It's got to be executive action with assistance, particularly up in the House and the Senate. Go on recess, let him get some appointments, back him up on the filibuster. The things that he says he needs. Trump does not come and say all the time, I need this, I need this, I need this. He's very self reliant. But when he says he needs something, he needs it. But they don't respond. They're tapping him along and this is going to be a crisis because they're all going to abandon him leading with the tech bros who are just a bunch of progressive Democrats who are just grabbing with both hands. As soon as they see that there's any political weakness, they'll be heading out the door just like the Republicans right now. And the perfect example of that is Indiana. A second perfect example of that is Minnesota. I got Royce White here. Royce. One of the finest states in the Union with great people. One of the great cities in our country, Minneapolis. It is Mogadishu. You say it all the time, but it's true. And now President Trump is saying, hey, we gotta do something about it. The Omar situation, we've known about this situation for years. Why is there no action taken on it, sir?