Episode 4962: Zelensky Begs For Help As American Trust Wanes

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room, Episode 4962

Title: Zelensky Begs For Help As American Trust Wanes
Date: November 29, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Notable Guests: Jack Posobiec, Kevin Posobiec, Ben Harnwell, Royce White, Taj Gil, Brett Galachevsky

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Main Theme

This episode centers on waning American public and political support for Ukraine as President Zelensky seeks renewed Western aid and security guarantees, amid escalating reports of corruption in the Ukrainian government. The War Room panel offers scathing critiques of both U.S. and European political leadership in relation to Ukraine—accusing them of promoting distraction from domestic crises, mishandling foreign policy, and enabling grift within the war effort. The episode also broadens into U.S. domestic concerns: immigration, urban decline, Republican Party infighting, and the mounting challenges for Donald Trump’s agenda.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. American Sovereignty vs. Ukrainian Sovereignty (00:51–04:49)

• Steve Bannon opens by questioning the logic of guaranteeing Ukraine’s sovereignty when the U.S. is struggling to maintain its own, especially in cities overwhelmed by illegal immigration.
• Bannon attacks U.S. politicians and media for ignoring what he describes as endemic corruption in Ukraine, referencing casualties and lost resources.
• Quote:
  “It's impossible for us to guarantee the sovereignty of Ukraine. We ain't guaranteed the sovereignty of the United States of America...” (Steve Bannon, 01:34)
• Jack Posobiec argues European governments use the war as a distraction from their own failures—rising crime, mass immigration, economic woes.
• Posobiec praises Poland for closing its borders and defying EU pressure on cultural issues, implying Western Europe has lost its way due to globalist policies.

2. Corruption & Lost Cause in Ukraine (04:49–10:23)

• Kevin Posobiec recounts firsthand experiences in Ukraine, witnessing black market arms sales and widespread corruption.
  • “...when we sent the first $40 billion over to Ukraine, and we witnessed all the black market weapons sales, and they wanted us to...” (Kevin Posobiec, 04:49)
• Both Posobiec brothers argue the Ukrainian cause was militarily unwinnable from early on, but key U.S. political and media figures misled the public.
• Memorable moment: Kevin observes Americans were flying more Ukrainian flags than Ukrainians themselves:
  "What I didn't see is... any American T shirts or any American flags. They're not up in any of those houses." (Kevin Posobiec, 09:56)
• Discussion asserts aid is diverted away from Ukrainian civilians, who remain impoverished.

3. Switching Focus: U.S. Urban Decline & Immigration (10:23–12:36)

• Bannon insists U.S. sovereignty—in devastated cities like Minneapolis—should take priority over Ukraine.
• President Trump’s deployment of troops to sanctuary cities and ICE operations is praised as reclaiming American sovereignty.

4. Media, Intelligence, and Corruption in Ukraine (16:49–26:37)

• Ben Harnwell alleges media (Wall Street Journal, Murdoch outlets) and potentially U.S. intelligence sat on evidence of massive corruption by Ukrainian presidential aide Yermak:
  • “That means that that underlines everything that the war room's been saying for three and a half years about FOX lying to people about keeping this war going.” (Ben Harnwell, 18:44)
• Harnwell argues Yermak’s ouster signals a “pivot” from military aid (the “mother of all grifts”) to lucrative reconstruction contracts.
• He predicts further regime change, suggesting Zelensky will also be ousted now that his regime’s usefulness is ending.

5. Republican Infighting and Legislative Inertia (30:42–36:52)

• Brett Galachevsky (Turning Point Action): Focuses on internal GOP struggles in Indiana over redistricting—warning that “Republican in name only” (RINO) politicians may cost the party the House majority.
• He underscores the need for grassroots mobilization and MAGA-aligned Republicans to pass advantageous district maps.
• Quote:
  “The scary reality check… is that it very well could be legislators in Indiana… that… could potentially [cost us] the majority in the House...” (Brett Galachevsky, 31:49)

6. Afghanistan, Immigration, and Violence (26:41–29:13; 36:52–39:44)

• Taj Gil reflects on Afghan allies abandoned after U.S. withdrawal, noting many were loyal, but destitution and abrupt policy shifts forced some into desperation and violence.
• He voices little surprise that a “CIA-trained” Afghan could turn violent after such abandonment:
  • "I'm just saying they once were a loyal force, and then we abandoned them. And now they’re broke on the street… guess what? They're trained killers. So this is what happens." (Taj Gil, 37:57)

7. Urban Crisis in Minneapolis & Immigration’s Political Impact (43:11–50:03)

• Royce White: Describes Minneapolis as having become “Mogadishu” due to immigration, corruption, and Democratic Socialist policies.
• He calls for mass deportations to reverse decline, arguing Somali immigrants are exploited to sway state elections and facilitate government grift.
  • “The 200,000 Somalians… make up enough of a percentage to really swing these elections…” (Royce White, 46:39)
• White also criticizes “civil rights movement” politics and how DEI funding is misused.

8. Broader Critique of Republican Establishment (43:44–45:13)

• Bannon lists ways the GOP establishment—especially the Senate—fails to help Trump: not supporting filibuster reform, redistricting, appointments, or budget cuts.
• He warns that inertia and lack of support will sabotage the conservative agenda and Trump’s ability to govern if re-elected.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Steve Bannon (00:02):
  “This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we’re going medieval on these people…”
• Jack Posobiec (02:37):
  “The Western governments of Europe right now want to keep the war going because they want to use the threat of Russia as a distraction from the collapse of their own countries…”
• Kevin Posobiec (05:23):
  “This lovely, lovely Ukrainian women lured us in.” (Lighthearted moment about their 2022 Ukraine reporting trip.)
• Steve Bannon (11:43):
  “Trump…sent the troops in to back up ICE because the elites don’t want the ICE raids and to back up police officers on the crime...reestablishing American sovereignty in our biggest and greatest cities…”
• Ben Harnwell (24:49):
  “...We're at the pivot point where the grift will switch from arms manufacturer to reconstruction.”
• Royce White (46:39):
  “1000% with no equivocations…nothing's happened about it. Nobody wants to even say it… But it’s not happening. These people are organized…an absolute scam.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:51–04:49: Opening discussion—U.S. vs. Ukraine sovereignty, corruption, disillusionment with Western elites.
• 04:49–10:23: Personal reporting from Ukraine, U.S. aid corruption, symbolic disconnect.
• 12:36–13:17: ICE, domestic security, and the prioritization of U.S. urban renewal.
• 16:49–26:37: Deep dive on the Yermak corruption story, media/institutional complicity, Washington’s “pivot.”
• 30:42–36:52: GOP redistricting fight in Indiana, importance for future majorities.
• 36:52–39:44: Afghanistan war aftermath, abandoned allies, emergent violence.
• 43:11–50:03: Minneapolis as “Mogadishu,” mass deportations, Democratic use of immigration, grift.
• 43:44–45:13: Bannon’s list of Republican establishment failures.

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Tone and Language

The episode is combative, urgent, and conspiratorial, particularly in its condemnation of “globalists,” establishment Republicans, and the media. The panel favors populist, nationalist, and hard-right rhetoric—expressing deep skepticism of foreign entanglements and the ability (or willingness) of legacy institutions to represent the interests of ordinary Americans.

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Conclusion

This episode offers a bleak appraisal of Ukraine’s war, Western political leadership, and the current state of the U.S. domestic agenda—arguing that the time, money, and focus spent on Ukraine have come at the expense of U.S. sovereignty, security, and prosperity. The panel calls for a return to populist priorities, a purge of corrupt influence at home and abroad, and a renewed—almost isolationist—focus on “saving our country first.”

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Prison's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Jack Posobiec]

War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Saturday 29th November Year of alert 2025 we talk about posopics, the brothers Posobic again Ben when we talk about guaranteeing the sovereignty of Ukraine or giving them security guarantees, look what the American people are going to depend upon because Yermac is not alone, he is an example, he's a manifestation of their political class. Yes. Do they have some honest people over there? There's no bit doubt. They've got tons of courageous people. Hell, They've taken what, 1.75 million casualties, dead and wounded so far. But the fact is it's a corrupt, it's endemically corrupt. Jack Bosobic, your thoughts on this entire situation in the Ukraine, particularly as people are running around tossing out oh, we'll get. It's impossible for us to guarantee the sovereignty of Ukraine. We ain't guaranteed the sovereignty of the United States of America until we go into New York City with ice and troops and go to the number one sanctuary city in the country and clear it all out. Clear it all out and send them all home. And let's get the 15 million illegal aliens that are here sucking down resources, causing crime, destroying the school system, destroying the health care system for the working poor until we get them all out, and I mean all of them, we don't have our own sovereignty. And you get a guy like Yermak and he's a manifestation. I just want to repeat, you were in the White House right after the Alaska trip. Jack, he's walking around like a big shot. When President Trump had all the NATO guys over here to call their bluff. They're going to give money, they're going to give arms, they're going to do this, they're going to do that. They're not doing anything because they're all broke, they have no troops, they have no arms, they have no political will.

[Jack Posobiec]

Jack Bosobic well, Steve, that's exactly right. And they're all the Western gov. Look, it's very simple. The Western governments of Europe right now want to keep the war going because they want to use the threat of Russia as a distraction from the collapse of their own countries from within. They don't want anyone focused on the cost of living, the fact that it's been driven up by this war with all the energy prices, the destruction of Nord Stream 2. They don't want anyone focusing on the mass invasion of third worlders and Middle Easterners into places like France, like England. Tommy Robinson, they throw him into jail every time he tries to expose it. Italy, all the rest of them, they don't want anyone focused on that because if they start to realize, and Ben, of course in Italy can, can attest they don't want anyone focused on these things because they want them worried. Oh, no, you got to worry about this distraction over here. You got to worry about this thing at the end of the continent. You got to worry about this. Don't, don't pay attention to all the, the little girls being raped all across Europe. Don't pay, you know, don't pay attention to all people being murdered, all the children who are being killed. It's sick, it's disgusting. And then you got people up there saying, oh, well, you know, we need the tika masala, we need the chicken tikka masala. So that's why they got to all come. It's horrifying. But Steve, I'll tell you this. There is a place in Eastern Europe where you don't have to worry about these things. And it's called Poland. And Poland didn't take any of them in ever. Because Poland understands a little thing called your culture, your faith, your people and standing pressure. Look, they're putting pressure on Navrotsky right now. Why? Because he refuses to acknowledge gay marriage. Because he said, no, I will not respect same sex marriage. We don't recognize it in the, in Poland. We've never recognized it in Poland. This is our Catholic belief. And I will veto any bill that comes to my desk that, that recognizes this. Now, the EU is putting pressure on him and he's telling to go pound sand and the Polish people are with him. We will hold the borders. We'll hold it clear. And look, this like you mentioned, by the way, the fact that the Ukrainians won't, you know, won't surrender, even though they're taking a pounding, they've lost A lot of people. That's how it is in Eastern Europe. All right, you get us going, KE Rev. Yeah, you get us going. We don't exactly want to. Are ever the ones who say it's time to stop fighting, are we?

[Kevin Posobiec]

No, we're not the ones that want to stop fighting at all. That's right, Jack. And talking about the sovereignty of Ukraine and the corruption over there, it seems to be that they're pretty stubborn in the corruption and not letting the people get the money that we send them. We went over there when we sent the first $40 billion over to Ukraine, and we witnessed all the black market weapons sales, and they wanted us to. It shortly turned from a news trip, a journalistic documentary, into an arms driver.

[Jack Posobiec]

They were trying to send Kevin to the front, Steve.

[Kevin Posobiec]

In May of 22, this lovely, lovely Ukrainian women lured us in.

[Jack Posobiec]

They threw the. They threw the women at him and said, I'll be here waiting for you in Lviv when you come back from the front. Kevin's thinking about it.

[Kevin Posobiec]

That's right. Oh, it's just a short drive. You know, we got. We got.

[Steve Bannon]

What I. What I admired about you guys. You took that trip in what year? What year was it?

[Jack Posobiec]

May of 2022.

[Steve Bannon]

So in May of 22, and I think you guys took the night train down to Odessa. You guys told me, you know, and he came on the show multiple times and you were saying, hey, this thing, militarily, it's not winnable for the Ukrainians. It was obvious then. It was obvious to you guys who went there and spent like a week or so, that it was obvious that the Russians would. Would put up any place in two was obvious, and the corruption was obvious. And this was hidden from the American people officially by Lindsey Graham, by the Biden regime, by the people doing the color revolution on us. They're the same ones in back of instigating all the problems in Ukraine. And now we know because the walls are closing in on Zelensky at the worst moment. He's trying to negotiate and trying to say, we have to be part of NATO. We have to have an American guarantee on our sovereignty. Can you think how idiotic that is? How are we going to guarantee the sovereignty of Ukraine? It's run by the most corrupt people on earth. How are you going to. They could trade you out at any time and you're going to guarantee. You're going to guarantee their sovereignty with a cast of characters like that? You guys called this a couple years ago. Ben Harnwell called it on the eve of the. Of the star of the war with what Boris Johnson and people were doing. This has all been driven by the political class and the globalists in Europe and the United States, the Atlanticists. And now they're left with a horrible defeat. The Russians have won on the battlefield, and thank God for the Ukrainian people haven't taken Odessa yet. But to sit there and say they have to have all these terms and they have to have security guarantees, they have to have the guarantee of their sovereignty. How are you going to guarantee Ukraine's sovereignty when a guy like Yermek, until 48 hours ago, was the number two guy in the government, Stolen hundreds of millions of dollars. They will take money from anybody. You don't know what deals are ever going to cut. And we're going to secure their sovereignty. It's ins. Insanity. It's total insanity. You're putting an obligation on the American people right now when we still got 15 million illegal aliens in the country and the ones we've led in the country, that all should be turfed out immediately. Royce White's gonna be on here in a minute. Tell you what a disaster. Minneapolis is one of the great cities in our country now. It's like Mogadishu. Mogadishu. And we're talking about guaranteeing the sovereignty of Ukraine. You guys have been there. How big. How big a commitment is. Is the United States of America for now and in the future guaranteeing the Bloodlands? Sir?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Steve. I mean, these areas. And we went down my Goliath. This is when the Russians were still in Kherson and we could see the hardscrabble life. He's got people. They're so poor, they can't get out of there. They don't want to leave because it's their homes. And look, that's just good, regular folk. The Lao Beijing, if you will. Right. The. The regular people, the little hobbits, they're the ones sitting there trying to just go about their lives while there's missiles flying overhead. While there's drones flying overhead. Besson took me over there earlier this year. We saw the same thing. There's a drone strike in downtown Kiev just as Bessant and I were pulling in on the train into Kiev back in February. So, Steve, this. This thing is going on. It's affecting the regular people, and for what? It is not helping them. It is not helping them at all. Kevin, you saw the destruction.

[Kevin Posobiec]

Yeah, we saw the money. The money just doesn't go from us to them into their pockets. It gets divided up before then. That's why we saw these people still pushing shopping carts and whatnot in May 2022. And yeah, part of it is that part of the color revolution tactic here is that they will tell you that Ukraine is becoming sovereign. They, they just glaze everybody saying, oh, yeah, just a little more money. Send $50 to, you know, whoever and you'll get a nice little card back in the mail saying, you helped Nicholas, you know, win the fight.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's all a damn, it's all a shame. And Steve, Kevin had the great observation. We were there. He said, you go across America, particularly back in 2022 in the summertime, and we saw all those flags, remember, we saw all the Ukrainian flags are up on decals, are up all across middle America, they're all across. Kevin, what was your observation, though? You saw all the Ukrainian flags that Americans are putting up, but what did you observe on the ground in Ukraine?

[Kevin Posobiec]

Oh, you know, one thing I did see is that. Or what I didn't see is any, any American stores or any American T shirts or any American flags. They're not up in any of those houses.

[Jack Posobiec]

They weren't flying a single American flag. Steve. And Kevin had the point. He said, he said, steve, that's great. We're going to stand for all these people around the world, but who's standing for us?

[Kevin Posobiec]

Where's the thanks? Just like jd it didn't say thanks.

[Jack Posobiec]

Who's standing for the American people?

[Steve Bannon]

The Jack. This weekend we've got a special. You've put together a special that we're going to be showing on our Rumbo channel. And get her what is is.

[Jack Posobiec]

And just Steve, last point on that. I'm much more concerned with the sovereignty of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania than I am with the sovereignty of Lviv, Ukraine. All right? And that just is what it is. Look, Steve, this, this special that we've put together at Human Events Daily, it is a two part deep dive into the twisted and sick world of Tyler Robinson and Lance Twigs. And we've got clinical psy, we've got the great Liz Wheeler from the Blaze on this. We're going through all the leaked messages, the discords, all the stuff that's come out about this sick relationship, the, the furry transhumanism sexuality that they were involved in, the drugs, the black market, hrt, the online chat forms, by the way, obsession with AI, obsession with chat GPT, that plays a big, big role in all of this. And we've seen, Steve, the connections between. I'm just following the evidence here, all right? But we've seen a lot of connections between ChatGPT and violence over the past year. So what we've done is put together a two part special on human events Daily. The deep dive into the twisted world of Lance Twiggs and Tyler Robinson.

[Steve Bannon]

Guys, thank you so much. And I want to say something, what Kevin just said there and you said at the end about sovereignty of Philadelphia. President Trump who has sent the troops in to back up ICE because the elites don't want the ICE raids and to back up the police officers on the crime that is reestablishing American sovereignty in our biggest and greatest cities, which have been taken over sanctuary cities by secessionists. Essentially we've had people that do not want to be a part of the American Republic because MAGA's too politically powerful. They want to have their own deal. This is why President Trump has sent the troops in. This is why every place the troops have gone in we've seen a drop in crime and we've seen an increase in deportations and, and a, and an increase in self deportations because they know the rule of law is coming. That is reestablishing the sovereignty of our republic on our major cities. That's our highest priority.

[Jack Posobiec]

And that's what this attack was about, Steve. This was an attack on American sovereignty by a radical jihadist. It was an attack on those soldiers because they were attacking American sovereignty and our, our republic directly as part of a color revolution.

[Steve Bannon]

So it's not random. It's not random that the guy CIA. It's not random that the guy was brought over here because the Lindsey Graham's of the world said oh, it's all going to be great. These are all patriots. It's like Washington's Continental Army. These are like militiamen. All of it's a bald faced lie. Just like everything they've told you in Ukraine is. Wait for it. A bald faced lie. And now they can't hide anymore. Jack, Kevin, what's your social media? What are your coordinates?

[Jack Posobiec]

Guys, I'm up at Jack Fosobic.

[Kevin Posobiec]

I'm at Kevin Fosobic on Twitter and Instagram and check me out on substack too. I might start writing some things.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, oh, he's right.

[Steve Bannon]

I like that.

[Jack Posobiec]

The brothers Kevin's volunteering to go to go in with the furries. By the way. I said, I said, Kev, we don't need somebody.

[Steve Bannon]

I want to go in.

[Jack Posobiec]

I want to go in.

[Steve Bannon]

Don't, Don't Kevin. Not Kevin.

[Jack Posobiec]

Put me in there.

[Steve Bannon]

Not my Kevin. Not my Kevin. Not my Kevin.

[Jack Posobiec]

Going furry going deep furry. We're going Kevin's going deep furry.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Brett Galachevsky]

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[Steve Bannon]

Sign up for free and be part of the movement. Okay, welcome back. So, Ben Harnawell, you called this last week. It was Rustam Umarov, and they said he was going to quit. Now, Zelensky just put out a tweet. He's en route, I guess, to the United States as the head negotiator now. And they're saying, hey, we can work so fast and so quickly. Here's the reason their army is collapsing with all the pounding that Army's taken in. One point, over 1.5 million. I think it's 1.75 million casualties. Now, the pounding they've taken. Without a massive infusion of American arms and American cash, there's no way they can take the onslaught of the Russians because the Russians lost over 2 million. They don't care. They don't care how many they lose. Right. It's not relevant to Putin. This thing is drawing to a bloody conclusion, and they want a deal that America guarantees, has a security guarantee and a sovereignty guarantee for the Ukraine. There's been all kinds of reports out that this has kind of been hidden, et cetera. We got to have a. You can't hide anything on this. You got to have a full discussion, a full national debate on whether the American people are prepared to commit the sovereignty of Ukraine. When you have people like Yermak to run the government, it's not Zelensky. Zelensky is the actor. Yermak has always been the chief thug. Has he not been Harwell?

[Ben Harnwell]

Steve, good morning to you. Look, my eyes were their most reptilian when I saw this news breaking. Famous for my beady cynicism when. When I saw this news breaking yesterday, I was like a rather hungry viper looking at a fat, lazy mouse. And I thought, wow, this is some story. So, firstly, let's just repeat what Steve Cortez and Jack Posobic were saying earlier. This guy is the number one in. In.

[Brett Galachevsky]

In.

[Ben Harnwell]

In Ukraine, and he's not. He wasn't. If I just add to what Jack Posobic was saying with his first witness account, first eyewitness account, there he was not. As if he wasn't wandering around the White House as if he as if he were a big shot. He is the big shot. He's the showrunner. Right. Giving their heft to, to a second rate comedians credibility. He's the guy, Yermak was the guy when people were coming over, flying over, doing the trips to Kiev over the last three and a half years. Yeah, Yermak was the guy who's basically sort of having the serious sit down and policy discussions with them. So there are a few things to break down on this story and I'm going to start off with what Tucker Carlson said. Just there's a couple of days ago when he said, and this is absolutely fascinating if true that the Wall Street Journal was sitting on this story that Yermak had been grifting out hundreds of millions of dollars given by the US for Ukraine 8 and they'd been sitting on that story and suppressing it for many months. So firstly I'm going to start off with that. And that was four days ago. This is before Yermak's home in office was raided and he resigned it. Okay so the first thing to say is really. First thing. Okay, so the Wall Street Journal had this. Then everyone else in, in the Murdoch empire will have had that as well. And they sat on it. So that, so that's obviously. And we could talk for two hours on a whole morning show just breaking that down. That means that that underlines everything that the war. Who's been saying for three and a half years about FOX lying to people about keeping this war going. That's the first point. Second point extends from that. If the Wall Street Journal knew that this guy was grifting hundreds of millions of us do, then presumably American intelligence knew as well.

[Kevin Posobiec]

Right.

[Ben Harnwell]

We're not in opposition.

[Kevin Posobiec]

Right.

[Ben Harnwell]

MAGA currently controls the, the executive if not the House in name only. Let's call John Ratcliffe and find out what did the CIA know about earmax corruption, when did it know it and why has it been suppressing this? That's, that's the second point that comes off from that. Thirdly Steve, my, my point is more concerning about the timing of this. This broke yesterday on Black Friday. I like everyone else in America, we were all off doing sort of various other things thinking that there's going to be no news. Why did they get rid of this guy at probably the worst time for, for a news cycle? There's something in that and of course people are going to say firstly that means that the mainstream media is going to cooperate in the burial of this story. That's going to go down the memory hole. And then if you mention it, they're going to say, oh, well, look, he's gone. He was raided by the corruption people and then he resigned. That's the system working. They're going to lie to you. They're going to look you in the eye and they're going to lie to you and gaslight you. My fear about this, Steve, and I hand back to you on this point, is to do with the timing of this. I have been, as I've said on the show, for quite some time. I am extremely concerned about some of the pressure that the US Administration is putting on Ukraine right now. Like the commitment part of the plan was to have elections within 100 days, which obviously Zelensky one will presume he's going to lose. And to see that Andre Yermak, the chief of staff, Ukraine's lead negotiator with the United States, has been forced out at this point. Look, I'm sensing a pivot is in action here, and I think, I'm guessing that the US Is behind it. My standing presumption, I have no evidence for this. My standing presumption, however, is that it's the US that told Zelensky this guy has got to go. And it's a precursor, of course, for him going as well. This all follows on the golden toilet thing, right? Is the precursor for getting Zelensky out. Why am I so concerned? Because getting out the most toxic, poisonous representative of Ukraine at this time and confecting the great switcheroo of bringing in Ambassador General Zaluzhny, currently exiled in London, is the means of keeping something going. And by the way, I'm not talking about war here. I have never said on this show that the war is the mother of all grift. What I said, what I repeatedly said about the mother of all grifts is that's the reconstruction of Ukraine. And my fear is that the administration is somewhat involved in getting out Yerem Makina because the pivot is already an act and they're trying to move from the military aspect of this grift to the reconstruction side. This is no news. However, I'll close you at this point, hand back to you. Look, what have we called Zielinski? For three and a half years on this show, we've called him 10% ski because the, the, the, the grift was so well known and so, so visible, so in your face. That's exactly the respect we showed this guy. We called him President 10%. That's the regime he's been leading and the mainstream media and Fox and all the other sort of so called MAGA adjacent US organizations outside of real America's Voice and have been saying oh this is Zelensky's the new church and what have you. They have all been looking the American people in the eye and lying to them. This guy, the most important man in Ukraine, I'd say he was more important even than Zelensky himself has been running a grifting operation pulling out hundreds of millions of dollars of American taxpayer dollars intended for aid in Ukraine and he's been siphoning them off and the Wall Street Journal knew about it. The, the Murdoch empire knew about it. I guess American intelligence knew about it and nobody said anything. Now they're getting rid of him because they're pivoting to something else. That is my fear.

[Royce White]

Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

Well, President Trump has got the way of the world on his shoulders trying to bring priests because wanting more people killed. I just don't see how you get there. The Ukrainian demands are still the Russians won the war on the battlefield and they're going to continue to grind and take Odessa and this war is going to grind on. So President Trump's tried to move heaven and earth but I don't know even what you the ask of the Europeans and the Ukrainians is still so over the top right? To have no basis in reality and what are they going to do? They want to depend upon. They have all these ask but they want the United States to shoulder the entire burden. I just don't see that happening. Ben, great, you've been on this and dead spot on for now with over three years in this thing. Great job on your Mac. Where do people go to get all your BDI'd analysis over this holiday weekend?

[Ben Harnwell]

Get as my social media platform of choice tap in my surname Arnwell. I've got sort of some stuff of this and I'll be posting more over the weekend. Steve, look, let me just close with this point. I am not sure how much longer this war can go on. President Putin came out using the Professor Mearsheimer expression the last 24 hours and Putin said, you know, they're ready to, they'll keep this war going until they've fought, they fought, they've killed every last Ukrainian. I don't think the army is any position now to offer much further resistance. So something, something is happening behind the scenes on this. That's why I say we're at the pivot point where the grift will switch from arms manufacturer to reconstruction. And I'M seeing reconstruction and I am seeing the, the, the, the, the, the exiling to the front line of Andre Yermak in this line. That, that, that, this is part of that, of that process.

[Steve Bannon]

Sir, thank you so much. Appreciate you sticking with us.

[Ben Harnwell]

Thanks, Steve. God bless.

[Steve Bannon]

Hey, Tasia, I'm holding through the break, but you've got your, your couldn't be more upset about what's going on in the United States since the last couple of days in this Afghan thing because you fought over there with these guys. What's your assessment?

[Taj Gil]

Yeah, these are the, the old school mujahedeen. This, the mujahedeen that we backed in the 1980s to beat the Russians. These are a lot of these guys were their sons and grandsons. So I worked with these guys a lot over there. All the guys I worked with were good guys. We, they're very loyal. They, they had good living quarters. They paid him well. They, they had good training, they had good weapons. I still know some of the guys over here. One of my teammates reached, reached out to one of the interpreters over the weekend and he said the Afghan community is very upset about this. So I wouldn't judge all these guys like this, but the guys we worked with were very loyal. The guys that the U.S. army and the police worked with, they would have what's called green on blues. These Afghan guys would turn on them. Our guys never did that. Our guys are very loyal. But let me, let me bring a couple of things up.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Taj Gil]

Honored.

[Steve Bannon]

A Tasia going to be come back a Tasian Royce White. But I want to give him a little more Runway. I want to bring in I've got turning point and this is why I'm so proud of the turning point. Guys. Brett Galachevsky joins us. Of course today's our day to have right wing Polish guys puff Polish descent join us. The toughest of the T, Brett, this situation in Indiana. And finally I said when I saw your announcement the other day, the cavalry is finally arriving. You know, we've had Degrasse Raheem. We've done conferences, we've done so much. But the establishment is dug in there. And to the fact that President Trump made some comment over the weekend and some senator has a very tragic situation I think with a daughter that has down syndrome. But he took offense of what President Trump said. He said, hey, I ain't voting for it no matter what. Just give us a couple of minutes of how important where we stand today. We're talking about Color revolutions and President Trump trying to get peace in Ukraine and, you know, situations with the economy and getting bessant. You know, we're all, they're all focused on domestic issues. How important is what's going on in Indiana for 2026, 2028 and beyond, sir? Yeah.

[Brett Galachevsky]

Well, first of all, Steve, thanks for having me on. Thanks for having another Polish freedom fighter on this morning. For your viewers that might not be familiar with what's going on in Indiana right now, I want to put it to you guys this way. Indiana is now the last line of defense for conservatives and ensuring that we put ourselves in the best possible position to keep the majority in the House Representatives next year. And the scary reality check with all of this is that it very well could be legislators in Indiana of all states that put an R next to their name that call themselves conservatives are going to be the reason that that could potentially not happen. Indiana is a historically very red state. They have massive Republican majorities in their state Senate, in their state Assembly. They have a Republican governor, they have Republican controlled everything. And unfortunately, what we're finding out is that the Mike Pence foothold is still very prominent in Indiana. This state has a chance to reverse course and draw their line in the sand and say, no, we are doing away with the Republican Rhinos of old and we are now Trump branded mega conservatives and we are now the dominant voice in the Hoosier state. They're not doing that. This can directly now be the reason that a what, six seat majority right now in the House for Republicans turns into a big majority for the Dems next year.

[Steve Bannon]

Listen, so they're doing maximalist strategy in California. I don't know, 43% vote Republican. They're now going to be down to four seats of what Newsom does. Even more shocking in my beloved Commonwealth of Virginia, you're going from a 6, 5 map, they're going to put up a 101 map. The Democrats are going full maximalist as I and look, I don't have a problem with that as long as the Republicans are doing the same thing. And in Indiana, you're basically having the Republican establishment saying, no, we're not going to do this. What is your recommendation to MAGA and to the folks, particularly the young people at turning point? What needs to happen in Indiana? And how are you guys? I think we're having a rally next week. What are you guys going to do to really highlight this to the nation?

[Brett Galachevsky]

Well, the end goal here is Indiana has an opportunity with President Trump's redistrict plan to go from 72 Republican controlled seats to 9 0. Just the way that Indiana's landscape shapes up with relatively speaking, a very conservative leaning metropolitan area in comparison to other Midwestern metro areas. The plan on the table is to get Indiana to 9 0. The problem is right now there are Republicans that are refusing to vote for this for a number of reasons. Really what it comes down to is pettiness, tyranny and self righteousness. But our plan is at turning point action to come in, send a message to these Republican senators and you know, Republican in quotation marks who are refusing to advance President Trump's agenda to say, look, the Republican base, the ones who knock doors until their knuckles bleed to get you elected. And in some cases in districts that are Trump +20 are not going to stand for you going against the reasons why we worked so hard to elect you. And more so than just the grassroots base that gets them elected, the people that elected them themselves again in Trump plus 20 districts in many cases are not going to stand for A major step backwards in Indiana when we have a six seat majority right now in the House of Representatives and Gavin Newsom just takes five Republican seats off the table with the prop that was just voted on in November, Indiana has an opportunity to completely reverse course and really change the course of history. I mean, we could talk about a little bit what could happen if we lose the House next year. They will make the Trump administration's life extremely hard. They will put up roadblocks. So our event on Friday at the Indiana State House, at the Indiana Capitol in the Rotunda will hopefully send that message. We want to rally hundreds of Indiana's conservative faithful to make that message clear that Indiana needs to go nine. Oh, this redistricting plan needs to pass and we need to win the House next year.

[Steve Bannon]

Brett, where do people go to get more information? Do they have to sign up? Do they have to like do RSVP or is it just kind of arrive at that time?

[Brett Galachevsky]

No. So our event is Friday the 5th at noon at the State House. You can sign up, you can get your [e-mail] rallyindiana or you can go on our website tpaction.com you can also find me on Twitter on XGals WI. I call Wisconsin home. So I'm right around the corner from where this is happening. Indiana being the center of the political universe right now. But if you're in Indiana right now and you didn't even know that this was happening, you're finding out about this for the first time, you should be ticked and you should be there on Friday to help us rally the troops.

[Steve Bannon]

Brett will have you back on early next week. I want this rally to be huge, so. And send a signal as only Turning Point action can. Sir, thank you so much for joining us today. And thank you for being one of these great patriots from Wisconsin, the heartland of this country. Sir, Love it out there. You bet.

[Brett Galachevsky]

Thank you, Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, brother. Fantastic people over there turning points so, so, so incredibly impressive. Can't wait till Amfest. Hope all the Warren posse was tough getting tickets this year. Hope all the Warren posse got them gonna be there with us. So, Taj Gil, you were there. I agree there were people that now we were fighting for their country, but people that did serve and help the United States, his time there. I have no problem with getting people out of the country. I have a massive problem with letting any of them in the United States or America. Okay? It's a different culture, It's a different religion. You got 1.8 billion. You got Muslims spread all over from Indonesia to Malaysia, all the way through the Gulf, Africa. There are plenty of places that would have taken the Afghans particularly. Some of these people are hardworking people. The point is to bring them here. And now, I mean, just give me a minute on. Does it strike you as odd that a CIA guy that was trained by the CIA guy that looked like he had no problems, all of a sudden just mysteriously appears in Washington D.C. to gun down a couple of troops in cold blood? Shoot him in the head, sir.

[Taj Gil]

No, it actually doesn't surprise me at all, Steve. Like I said, these guys were old school mujaheddin descendants. Then they became part of this strike force. What happens is, like I said, they're loyal at one time, and we paid them a lot of money, we equipped them, they had a high operational budget, but we turned it off overnight. So there was no transition to get them to work for themselves. So we literally. I watched it happen at some of these bases. We would literally start leaving in the middle of the night. We have helicopters coming all night, pulling the equipment out. And they ask us, are you guys leaving? And we would say, no, we're not leaving. And then one day we would just leave. So we literally just abandoned them. That's what, that's what happened under Obama and Joe Biden. So no gradual transition. So we threw them out on the street, unemployed. Their operational budget's gone. Now they're on their own. So what happens is they either join the Taliban because they're Broke or they get killed, or they have to flee Afghanistan to another Arabic country. And then when Joe Biden did this crazy pullout, you saw these guys hanging on the sides of airplanes and piling in. So, yeah, it's a desperation move on their part. And then they come over here, and they probably have no job, whatever, and then someone pays them to go kill some National Guard guys. So, no, I'm not surprised. And two, I think this is a sign of things that come. This is going to happen again. So I'm not defending these guys. I'm not saying, like, pour this poor that. I'm just saying they once were a loyal force, and then we abandoned them. And now they're broke on the street and they need money and they're desperate. And guess what? They're trained killers. So this is what happens. This is what our government did. This is the deep state. This is Joe Biden, Anthony Bank Blinken, and Barack Obama. That's what happens.

[Steve Bannon]

Taj, I feel like I need a cup of coffee. I'm gonna need a bunch this afternoon. We're jacked up for the show.

[Brett Galachevsky]

I got.

[Steve Bannon]

We got so much work to do for next week. Where do I go to get the best cup of coffee in the world?

[Taj Gil]

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[Steve Bannon]

Brother. One more time. The 15,000 reviews. Sell the coffee. It's the best coffee ever made. This is why you can drink it black. It's got no acidity in it. You don't have to use cream and sugar. You drink it the way coffee is supposed to be consumed, where they go. One more time, sir.

[Taj Gil]

Warpath coffee. Promo code, war room.

[Steve Bannon]

Do it this weekend. Taj Gil, thank you. And thank you for your insight. Afghanistan. I know, I know you and your compadres there, when you went back as contractors and work with more of the CIA types, that takes real courage, because that's as dangerous it can get. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. One thing on this Indiana situation, I just want to make sure people know this is that the Republican establishment Now, I think. I think the media's got the Story Magazine. You know this magazine. No, no, no. What? That's Noise Signal is what the Republican establishment is doing. What are they doing? They're not breaking the filibuster incentive. President says, I need this. There's a couple things we needed on. If we don't get that done, we're cooked. There's no movement on the filibuster in the Senate. Let's be honest about it. There's no help by the Republican establishment on redistricting at all. This is all 100% grassroots now. Turning points involved in the Indiana. Indiana shows you the establishment. But it's been in Texas, it's all over in Kansas and Nebraska. So the establishment is not helping on redistributing at all. Number three, there are no recess appointments. President Trump's people are still not getting appointed. In fact, Bridge Colby's two deputies are not even being voted at a committee. None of President Trump's appointees, which he desperately needs, are moving forward and they're not giving him a recess appointment. The Senate does not trust him enough soon in these guys to go on an official recess, which they're taking all the time next year. The House is only in for, I think, 100 days. There's no removal of the blue slips for the U.S. attorneys or the judges. He's asked for that. Mike Davis even said that it's an antiquated system, the blue slips that give the Democrats all this leverage against the president. Not going to do it. They don't support the $2,000 rebate on the. On the tariffs. There's no establishment support at all for impoundments, rescissions, pocket rescissions. Nothing from President Trump to cut the budget. There's no real support of his at all to cut a tougher deal in the Ukraine. Lindsey Graham. These guys continue to support all of it. The Republican establishment does not have Trump's back at all.

[Jack Posobiec]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

I might add. I could go on with that list. Remember the deconstruction, administrative state, the riffs? They didn't even support Trump on the downsizing of the federal government. Not at all. They some happy talk. They'll go on Fox or the Wall Street Journal gives some happy talk. But there's no support from the Duma for his actions. The Republican establishment see him more and more as a passing storm. It's not. President Trump is leader of the most important political movement, I think, in the country's history, but certain, certainly in the 20th and 21st century that has saved this country and he's got all the burdens on his shoulders. It can't be like that. It's got to be a team that hits it every day. When President Trump has an idea, when President Trump signs an executive order, when he does an executive memorandum or does a decision memorandum. There's got to be people through the system that force it through and get it done. And we're burning daylight and you're 100% correct. We can't talk about other elections. It's got to be executive action with assistance, particularly up in the House and the Senate. Go on recess, let him get some appointments, back him up on the filibuster. The things that he says he needs. Trump does not come and say all the time, I need this, I need this, I need this. He's very self reliant. But when he says he needs something, he needs it. But they don't respond. They're tapping him along and this is going to be a crisis because they're all going to abandon him leading with the tech bros who are just a bunch of progressive Democrats who are just grabbing with both hands. As soon as they see that there's any political weakness, they'll be heading out the door just like the Republicans right now. And the perfect example of that is Indiana. A second perfect example of that is Minnesota. I got Royce White here. Royce. One of the finest states in the Union with great people. One of the great cities in our country, Minneapolis. It is Mogadishu. You say it all the time, but it's true. And now President Trump is saying, hey, we gotta do something about it. The Omar situation, we've known about this situation for years. Why is there no action taken on it, sir?

[Royce White]

Well, Minnesota is a unique place in that it's one of the agricultural epicenters of the, of the nation as well as I think we have the most Fortune 500 companies per capita of any other major city in the country. So you got a unique mix of big ag and big corporate. And so you get an influx of these post collegiate professional types who are of the liberal variety. And it's very easy to continue on the path. Minnesota politics of Minnesota. Nice little Jante culture, you know, little yonte Norwegian, Scandinavian culture, where we go along to get along. We don't really like confrontation here in Minnesota. That's why I'm such a pariah in many of these major donor circles. But you know, it's very easy to keep the liberal politics going and which has been the Civil rights movement and the Somalians play blackface for it. The Somalians are the black face of the Minnesota Democrat or dfl civil rights led party. And it's, you know, it's the socialists, the socialists run Minnesota from top to bottom with some help from Republican unit party folks. And that's been the, you know, the way of things here for a long time.

[Steve Bannon]

So what is to be done? I mean we've, we've created a Mogadishu. President Trump saying he's putting a pause on third world. What about mass deportations? Are they, are, is anybody considering mass deportation? And do you believe that has to happen in Minneapolis to not make it to, to unmake it, the Mogadishu of.

[Royce White]

The United States, 1000% with no equivocations. Now, I shouldn't even be able to say that because I'm running for U.S. senate. And all the conventional wisdom is we need these, some, you know, 180 to 200,000, you know, conservatively Somalians to try and win an election here, a statewide election in Minnesota. And that's, that's partly been the problem because, you know, Minnesota is typically a swing state mathematically. You know, when you look at the numbers, you say, hey, couple points, four, five, six points. You know, it's kind of in Play. But the 200,000 Somalians who get, you know, voter harvested by the political organizations make up enough of a percentage to really swing these elections. So that's part of why nothing's happened about it. Nobody wants to even say it. On some whimsical hope that they can get that Somali vote, but it's not happening. These people are organized. Muslim Brotherhood care the whole thing all the way up to the Department of Agriculture that gives down the grants for the feeding our future thing, for example, you know, $98 million, 98 million meals billed to the American taxpayer for a state that has 5 million citizens total. An absolute scam. And I said on the show the other day, Steve, when, when hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars are stolen, it's theft. When hundreds of millions of dollars and billions of dollars are stolen, that's called foreign policy. And it's not by accident that this money ends up in the, in the hands of Al Shabaab or any of these other Muslim Brotherhood networks, terrorist networks around the world.

[Steve Bannon]

Does the black community in Minneapolis, they have a vote? They have a voice in this. They have a voting. Are they not outraged about what's happened in Minneapolis, sir?

[Royce White]

Well, well remember again, like I said, the civil rights Movement, the socialists have the civil rights movement. That's what they leaned upon. And the Somalians play blackface because they're the most politically organized, they're the loudest. And Ilhan Omar is obviously at the center of that, that, that theater, that charade. But, but alt. Like, Even back in 2000, and I think it was 2018-19, Minnesota granted a, a project that gave $35 million to non profit organizations who were going to fight for racial equity. So when, when we talk about dei, it's not just are we hiring qualified blacks or not? No. DEI also has to do with how the money is allocated, how the money gets spread around. And they greenlit this $35 million to go to these nonprofits. And obviously, Somalians qualify as fighting for racial equity from the federal government. And here in the state, another thing we need to repeal. What does fighting for racial equity really mean? And how are these programs slushing around money underneath that umbrella?

[Steve Bannon]

I know you're starting a new, I think, what, super PAC or something about all these issues. Where do people go? Where do people go?

[Royce White]

Royce Super PAC's not up yet, but I am starting to stop the left leadership pack to try and fight against Minnesota's political hegemon as a whole, because I'm not so sure that these establishment Republicans are willing to do it. So you can go to Royce White us for the Senate campaign. We'll have more information about the PAC there, obviously. I'm also all social media. And here on Real America's Voice before.

[Steve Bannon]

You on Saturday mornings, one more time, where do they go for your social media accounts? I want people to follow you, sir.

[Royce White]

At highway underscore 30 on X. Royce White on all the other platforms.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, brother. Thank you, Royce. Thank you for the fight.

[Royce White]

Godspeed, brother.

[Steve Bannon]

If you're going to do something about it, you got to do something about it, right? President Trump is getting so much on his plate trying to turn everything around. He needs assistance, and first off, he needs the Republicans in the Senate to have his back. He says he needs a filibuster. He says he needs recess appointments, he needs RIFs, he needs all these. What the Duma should be doing is trying to back what he's trying to do in executive orders. He can't do everything. He cannot do everything. I think it's becoming more and more evident every day. The team needs to pull together, but we need action, action, action. Very simple, very basic. Okay, I'm gonna be up on getter. We're gonna play. We're gonna have fusobic special. I'm gonna be up on getter all weekend. We'll be back here live at 10:00am Eastern Standard Time on Monday morning when you'll be.