Episode 4973: Maximalist Strategy For 2026; Liberalism And The Death Of Masculinity

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room – Episode 4973

Date: December 4, 2025
Title: Maximalist Strategy For 2026; Liberalism And The Death Of Masculinity
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Key Guests: John Fredericks, Melissa Katz, Stan Woodward, Ryan Grim, Raw Egg Nationalist, Taj Gil, Mike Lindell

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Overview

This episode of Bannon's War Room zeroes in on the escalating battles over redistricting central to the 2026 election cycle ("Maximalist Strategy for 2026"), the pressing need for conservative structural action, and a deeper cultural critique of liberalism with a focus on threats to masculinity in the West. The episode features on-the-ground electoral activism updates, a look at free speech battles in the UK, and an extended interview with the controversial figure known as "Raw Egg Nationalist" about the politics of masculinity and diet.

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1. The 2026 Maximalist Strategy & Redistricting Battles

Main Theme:
The opening half of the episode is devoted to strategic discussion about upcoming 2026 elections, specifically the high-stakes fights over redistricting in Indiana and Virginia, as well as grassroots election integrity efforts in Texas.

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A. Indiana Redistricting Offensive

Guest: John Fredericks (on-the-ground in Indiana)
Key Points:

• Indiana GOP is pushing hard for a redistricting initiative to secure two additional House seats—viewed as critical to maintaining a House majority.
• The fight is described as existential: “We got a battle on our hands. This is no time to play around. The Democrats are playing to blow your head off. And we're trying to be Indiana Nice.” (John Fredericks, [03:46])
• Fredericks details the vote math: House has a strong GOP majority, Senate requires 25 votes from GOP senators—currently five short.
• Direct pressure from Trump and national GOP: "President Trump has already said Roderick Bray...hey, we will primary you...and about $20 million." (Fredericks, [06:48])

Notable Quote:
“They’re blowing your head off, trying to take 6, 5 to 10, 1. These Democrats don’t care. They gerrymander everything. And we stand around and try to be, well, we’re nice. We’re going to get annihilated.” (John Fredericks, [06:48])

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B. Virginia – On the Defensive

Key Points:

• Virginia GOP deemed structurally disorganized: "It’s a bunch of disconnected fiefdoms that fight each other on a continual basis. Thing is a clown show." (John Fredericks, [09:45])
• There’s pessimism over relying on courts ("When you’re counting on the courts to save your bacon, you might as well forget about it…") and warnings against "good governance" coalition strategies after failed examples in California.
• The only path seen as viable: activating Trump’s base—“We got to tell the Trump voters in southwest Virginia they're screwing our guy, they're screwing the country. You got to get out or basically you're not going to have anything.” (Fredericks [11:06])

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C. Grassroots Election Integrity in Dallas, Texas

Guests: Melissa Katz, Stan Woodward
Key Points:

• Dallas County GOP is piloting a hand-counted paper ballot primary for 2026—a test case for election integrity.
• "We are grassroots national populists here in Dallas County. We are red. We will be in charge of our election..." (Melissa Katz, [13:08])
• Key needs: 3,300 volunteer ballot counters, $125,000–$150,000 additional funding.
• Stan Woodward provides action items and appeals directly to the audience for funding and volunteers.
  • Website: dallasgop.org/handcount (Stan Woodward, [18:43])

Notable Quote:
“This is a great beta site test for everybody in the country…Paper ballots hand-counted, the holy grail of election integrity.” (Bannon, [17:12])

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2. Censorship & Free Speech: The UK as a Model for Suppression

Guest: Ryan Grim (DropSiteNews)
Key Discussion Points:

• Explores Keir Starmer’s Labour government strategies to demonetize and suppress media, including both left-wing Corbyn-friendly outlets and right-wing foreign sites like Breitbart.
• The UK lacks First Amendment protections, making it an appealing model for censorship some US liberals admire.
• Grim documents government and corporatist collaboration for mass demonetization—“That's how you can demonetize news organizations en masse, which they did then to Breitbart and the Federalist and others.” (Ryan Grim, [23:00])
• Remedies are uncertain—the main lever appears to be international (US) conservative pressure.

Notable Quotes:
“One of the great things about the United States is that we have a First Amendment... If you don't have a First Amendment, the government can then dictate what can be published and can define what counts as hate speech.” (Ryan Grim, [20:21])
“For them to be trying to censor American news outlets is far beyond the pale.” (Ryan Grim, [24:37])

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3. Feature Interview: The Death of Masculinity

Guest: Raw Egg Nationalist
Segments: [26:04]–[46:57]

A. Background & Persecution

• The guest gained notoriety through anonymous social media activism, later being doxxed by a government-connected UK group for his “dangerous” ideas.
• Draws parallels with US (Douglas Mackey/Ricky Vaughan cases) as evidence of government-coordinated intimidation campaigns.

Quote:
“Tyrannical governments hate men who are organized and who are patriotic and who have, well, basically testosterone.” (Raw Egg Nationalist, [31:46])

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B. Masculinity, Food, and Social Control

• The core thesis revolves around how dietary shifts (toward plant-based, corporate-controlled foods) contribute to lowered testosterone and a more compliant, less assertive male populace.
• Discusses historical context: Aristotle, Plato, and revolutionary movements as examples of strong male solidarity changing nations.
• Clinics why plant-based diet agendas are fundamentally campaigns for control:
  "My contention is that it's about control...consolidation of control of the food supply...in the hands of corporations... It's been a disaster for our health." (Raw Egg Nationalist, [36:14])

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C. New Book: The Last Men

• Book releases December 16 (Skyhorse Publishing), inspired by Fukuyama's concept of “last men" and the political/cultural neutering of masculine behaviors.
• Detailed discussion of societal testosterone decline and its civilizational impacts.
• Cites studies showing “on average, year on year, male testosterone levels are declining by 1%...what's going to happen in 100 years?” ([39:28])

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D. Action Plan for Male Health & Vitality

Action Steps:

• Clean up diet: Eat nutrient-dense animal foods, avoid processed food.
• Exercise: Especially resistance training.
• Prioritize sleep: “If you double your sleep from four to eight hours, you can double your testosterone levels.” ([41:03])

Book & Contact Info:

• Book: The Last Men (order from Skyhorse or Amazon) ([44:44])
• Twitter/X: @babygravy9, Substack: rawegstack.com, Website: rawiagnationalist.com ([45:14])

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Notable Memorable Moments & Quotes

• “Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.” (Bannon, [00:34])
• “...if you don’t get on the same page because the people you’re fighting are gerrymandering anything as in Virginia. So as we go through tomorrow, we need a big vote out of the House.” (John Fredericks, [05:51])
• “We’re not blue. We are red. We will be in charge of our election...” (Melissa Katz, [13:08])
• “Tyrannical governments hate men who are organized and patriotic and who have…testosterone.” (Raw Egg Nationalist, [31:46])
• “Testosterone is declining on a civilizational level...if we don’t do something, we’re never going to solve [the] problem.” (Raw Egg Nationalist, [39:28])
• “Drink it black, eat lots of meat, get your testosterone levels up.” (Taj Gil, [48:06])

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

| Time | Segment/Topic | |-----------|-----------------------------------------------------| | 00:54 | Bannon outlines urgency for 2026, introduces panel | | 03:46 | John Fredericks: Indiana redistricting deep-dive | | 09:45 | Fredericks on Virginia's GOP dysfunction | | 13:08 | Melissa Katz: Dallas GOP hand-counted ballot push | | 17:12 | Stan Woodward: Operational needs for Dallas effort | | 20:21 | Ryan Grim: First Amendment & censorship UK/US | | 26:04 | Raw Egg Nationalist interview begins | | 29:56 | Masculinity as a threat to tyranny | | 34:21 | Dietary politics and control | | 37:37 | New book "The Last Men," liberalism & masculinity | | 41:03 | Increasing testosterone: practical action items | | 44:44 | Book order info + social media | | 47:33 | Taj Gil: Warpath Coffee, carnivore living |

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4. Product Plugs and Closing

• Warpath Coffee segment: "Eat lots of meat, drink lots of black coffee and you're going to have high testosterone." (Taj Gil, [47:33])
• Brief segment with Mike Lindell on potential Minnesota gubernatorial bid and promo for MyPillow deals.

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Conclusion

This episode weaves together high-stakes electoral strategy, advocacy for election integrity, warnings about creeping state-corporate censorship, and an extended critique of liberalism’s effect on masculinity as both a social and biological phenomenon. It’s urgent, combative, and strewn with calls to action—both politically and personally. The guest segment with Raw Egg Nationalist stands out for its blend of cultural critique, biological argument, and actionable advice.

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For further engagement:

• rawiagnationalist.com | Twitter: @babygravy9
• Dallas hand-count initiative: dallasgop.org/handcount
• Ryan Grim: dropsitenews.com
• Warpath Coffee: warpath.coffee (promo: war room)

This summary skips repetitive ad segments and focuses exclusively on the content-rich discussions and action items.

Transcript

[A]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[B]

And where do people like that go.

[A]

To share the big lie?

[B]

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[A]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[B]

War Room here's your host, Stephen k. Band.

[A]

Thursday the 4th of December, year of our Lord 2025. Thank you for being here for the second hour of the morning edition of the War Room. Look, as you know, we're as critical as anybody about some of these policies. We try to, you know, give our guidance of what we think is right, try to get the War Room posse involved non stop. The first hour of this was one hammer after another. These people are actively involved with it's Julie Kelly, John Solomon, Mike Davis and hammering through the kind of wet work to take down the deep state. And it's, you know, some days we're winning and some days it's not going so well. But people are hammering every day. The same with, look at 26 right now. It looks like we got a lot of work to do. It's very, it's tough, but doable, as I tell people. But the way you've got to do it is you got to roll your sleeves up and go to work. Just like in 2024, just like in 2022 when we took the house, just like in 20 when we won it, just like when President Trump got thrown out of the White House by the deep state and the Republican establishment and the radical Democrats, you guys rallied and guess what? He came back for the, you know, not DeSantis, not Nikki Haley, but Donald Trump came back for the greatest comeback in political history. And the same crew, some of you have been with us from since 14 and 15 over at Breitbart Radio. So you know that this is a process and it's a tough fight and it's never going to stop. It's just not. That's just not the way politics works in this country right now on 26, I tell people 28, don't mention 28. 28. It might as well be a thousand years from now. You got to get through 26 first because that's where everything changes. We the continue on the Trump revolution or every day you're going to be fighting a Democratic House and those brothers know how to fight. It's not, you're not going to see Jim Jordan and Comer and Mike Johnson and all these clowns running around. You're going to see hammers coming at the Trump administration to prep for 20. The predicate for 26 is right now. That's why Gavin Newsom, he's running for president of the United States. That's why he's spending so much time on it. That's what we spent so much time on it, on redistricting because just like the win we got in 22, in fact, the reason we have control of the house is Alex DeGrasse, the war room and a couple other institutions got involved and picked up, I think a net eight seats in 21 that have given us the majority in 22. Well, this, this fight for the redistricting is 10 times harder. John Fredericks joins us now. John, you've got the bus out in Indiana. I want to talk two things. I want to talk Indiana on the offensive side and I want to talk Virginia on defense. This bus was the same bus you took around in 21 when you came up with the theory said, hey, Steve, I think this guy Youngkin, who's no maga, no Trump guy, we can win this. If we take the bus around and we have a turnout in the MAGA districts at almost like 80 or 85% of presidential levels in 2020, we can win this. And your theory turned out to be right. Why have you now taken the bus out to Indiana, sir?

[C]

Action, action, action. You got to lace them up and lay some tight, Steve. We got a battle on our hands. This is no ties, no time to play around. The Democrats are playing to blow your head off. And we're trying to be Indiana. Nice. Here's why we're here and we're going to be here. Basically, we're right outside the Capitol with the Trump bus. We're going to be here right through next Friday. Let me tell you what the situation is. We're looking at two House seat pickups in Indiana that are there. If we can pass their initiative through the House and the Senate and get this to the Supreme Court of Indiana, which I'm told it will pass. We had Governor Mike Braun on today. Let me break it down for you in the House, Indiana has a 70 to 30 edge. We expect that vote in the House to come tomorrow, this is likely to pass the House by a substantial margin, probably, if not 65, you know, 35, 62, 38 or something. So it has a majority of House members, Republicans backing this. Then when that happens tomorrow, then it goes to the Indiana State Senate where things get a little tougher. Right now, the state Senate in Indiana has even a bigger majority, percentage wise. They have out of 50, they have 40 Republicans, 10 Dems, plus they have the lieutenant governor to break the tie. So they need 25 votes out of the Republican Senate in order to pass this redistricting for us to pick up two seats and perhaps save America. Where we are right now is we need 25 votes. And right now on the record, it's 2020. We're five votes short. Big House vote tomorrow might move a couple of them. But we're here all week. We had the governor on our show live right here on the bus about an hour ago. We're going to have state senators on, representatives on. We've got to put an amount of pressure on these state senators to get out of this. Well, this is not the way we do things in Indiana. Well, guess what? You're going to be eating out of a trash can if you don't get on the same page because the people you're fighting are gerrymandering anything as in Virginia. So as we go through tomorrow, we need a big vote out of the House. And then as we go through.

The week starting Monday, when the Senate here convenes in a special session called by the governor, Mike Braun, in order to do this, then the pressure is going to start. We need to peel away at least five, which we think we can do. We need to get to 25. We're hoping to get to 26, 28, obviously, but we got to work really hard to get these five to get this thing passed. Right now it's 5050, but that's why we are here.

[A]

Wow. And that's where the 4010 majority tomorrow, also right after the vote is going to be this turning point rally at the State Capitol. Can you talk to me about that?

[C]

Well, we're going to be here with a turning point, as always. They've got their organization out here. They're going to be talking about, about how important this redistricting is. And look, all this, all this happy talk, Steve, it drives you nuts about. Well, you know, we're Indiana. Nice. There's an Indiana way. Are you kidding me? Look what they're doing in Virginia. They're basically blowing your Head off, trying to take 6, 5 to 10, 1. I thought there was a Virginia way. These Democrats don't care. They gerrymander everything. And we stand around and try to be, well, we're nice. We're going to get annihilated. We got to fight. Steve, lace them up. Now. There's other pressure besides us being here. President Trump has already said Roderick Bray, who's the Senate Majority leader, Senator pro tem, the Senate here, the Republican, hey, we will primary you. Hey, meet my friend Chris La Civita. And about $20 million, right. We're going to get you out. So I'm just saying that. But these are the things that they have to be able to do. We got to put tremendous pressure. We need five Senate votes to pick two seats up, which Steve, could be critical in keeping the House and saving America.

[A]

No credible. Okay, so it's. And we're trying to get the 9, 0. And this is what the contention is about. When you got 4010, it's kind of stunning that you got to put this pressure on. But it has to happen. I mean, President Trump sent GD out there, I think a couple of times. He's talked to people, he's tried to be nice. Now we're beyond nice. You got to get down to it. Here's the reason in New England, New England votes six states, 40, I think 43% Republican, 25 to nothing. They're 25 Democrat congressmen. There's not one Republican in the House. California went from 43, nine, which was a joke. It's 40 million people in the state. They got 52 seats. They were 43, nine. They went to 48 to four, totally, unconstitutionally, totally illegally. And Newsom's people will tell you right now, the only mistake they made, they should have gone 52 to nothing. This is the maximalist strategy that they're applying in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Right. Virginia's got this, you know, very nice way people comport themselves. Spanberger set it up right now that it's going to be go from 6, 5, because the states basically kind of split between Republican and Democrat to 10 to 1.

[C]

They.

[A]

That is as big. That is so in your grill. And she's planning on doing that. And I realize we've got the courts and everything like that, but she's planning on doing it to tell Newsom, I should be your running mate in 2028. What are we doing in Virginia? Because I understand it may be illegal, but hell, it's illegal in Illinois, it's illegal in New England. It's certainly unconstitutional and illegal according to the constitutional state of California. They're still doing it. Okay. And now Illinois is going to get back in the act. They're like 17 to 3. I think they're going to go, they're trying to take a couple of seats away. What's going to happen in Virginia? We have a big event there in April. Is anybody focus on that?

[C]

John Fredericks no, right now we're going to get our, our asses kicked in Virginia. When you're counting on the courts to save your bacon, you might as well forget about it, right? Maybe there's a chance, maybe they put it off till 20, 28. Here's the reality. They're going to pass it again, this referendum in January. It's going to get on the ballot in April. What the, what the, what the Republicans are trying to do now, and you have to understand, there is no Republican Party in the Commonwealth of Virginia. They have no apparatus, they have no infrastructure, they have no ground game. It doesn't exist. It's a bunch of disconnected fiefdoms that fight each other on a continual basis. Thing is a clown show. So that's what you're up against. Now what they're trying to do is let's put together a good governance coalition because we, we have this commission of independent, of independent people putting the maps.

[A]

Tell them, tell them, tell them, tell them to look at Schwarzenegger and McCarthy in California. Didn't want Trump to go out, didn't want Trump to get involved. We got beat by 30 points. The good governance message gets you a 30 point defeat because these are special elections. The people that show up are partisans, they're motivated. The good governance types just don't show up. So we tried that, we tried that in California and we got smoke, sir.

[C]

Well, look, when they started it in California, they took a poll, they were down by seven when it was done, they got beat by over 30. So I mean, it doesn't work. So the only way to defeat this, the only way to do this in April is we've got to get the Trump voters out. We couldn't get them out for Winsome Sears. They just didn't care, Couldn't, couldn't get him out for the ticket. But I got to go up and down i81 every day. We got to tell the Trump voters in southwest Virginia they're screwing our guy, they're screwing the country. You got to get out or basically you're not going to have anything. That's the only way to do this, but the, they put up a C4. I just, when they're, when they start telling me the coalition is going to be, you know, former Democratic governor Doug Wilder, this one, forget it. Nobody cares about. They're out for Steve, they're out for blood. And we don't understand it.

[A]

Yeah. Where, where do people go to find the bus? Everything. We'll check in with you tomorrow. Obviously with the turning point going to happen at noon out there and on Monday, the first day back when hopefully they'll start getting ready for a boat. If we peel some, some numbers off. Where do people follow you, John?

[C]

You can follow me on Everywhere, Substack, Instagram, TikTok, all these social media platforms, one simple handle @jfradioshow, @jfradioshow, that's all you need to do. We're gonna be here and we're gonna see this through and we're gonna win this battle. We're gonna carry in the Senate. We're gonna pick these, these two seats up here. And at the end of the day, come November, if we win the House by one or two seats, you're gonna be able to thank the Indiana Hoosiers, Big John Fredericks.

[A]

Thank you. We'll check back in with you tomorrow. Thank you, sir. Nine to nothing in Indiana. That's it. Let's go to Dallas. Melissa Katz. Melissa, you guys have been fighting this forever. Now the president's involved. He's, he's loving what you guys are doing. Explain exactly what you guys are doing, what you're accomplishing. And we have a big issue here. So you got about a minute? Go ahead and walk me through it.

[D]

Yes, we decided back in September, our executive committee, the Dallas County Republican Party, voted almost unanimously for us to have in the primary. In Texas, our election code, we can only the party can be in charge of the primary. So we decided, we had a task force put together and we are going to do hand counted paper ballots in the March primary in 2026. And that's key because it's the primary is where we, the grassroots. We are grassroots national populace here in Dallas County. We're not blue. We are red. We are, we will be in charge of our election, but we need volunteers and we need money. And so our chair of this committee is going to talk with you after the break, Stan Woodward.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

We're going to take, we're going to take a short commercial break. These folks have moved heaven and earth to get the holy grail that we talk about. Paper ballots hand counted, no machines. And now They've got a speed bump that the Warren posse has to engage in and try to get them over. President Trump is 100% on board for this. This is an experiment. Remember, it's Dallas County. This is not, there's a, there's certain counties in the country trying this. But this is in the heart of the, this is in the heart of the beast. And Melissa is exactly right. That's MAGA down there. They just haven't raised their head. So we're going to take a short commercial break. Remember, Birch Gold financial markets are in turbulence right now, particularly things like crypto. Check out. Go to see Philip Patrick in the team at Birch Gold. Birchgold.com promo code Bannon the end of the dollar empire. Get to Philip Patrick and the team or just take your phone out and Text Bannon at 989-898. The ultimate guide which is free of investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. Let me be blunt. Gold is up around 40% this year. That's not speculation, that's reality. And if a portion of your savings isn't diversified into gold, you're missing the boat. Here's the facts. Inflation's still too high, the US Dollar is still too weak, and the government debt is insurmountable. This is why central banks throughout the world are flocking to gold at record rates. They're the ones driving prices up to new record highs. But it's not too late to buy gold from Birch Gold Group and get in the door now. Birch Gold will help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA. In gold, you don't pay a dime out of pocket. Just text Bannon B A N N O N to 989-898 and claim your free information kit. There's no obligation, it's just useful information. The best indicator of the future is the past. And gold has historically been a safe haven for millennia. What else can I say? What else does Birch Gold need to say? The hedge against times of financial turbulence has always been gold. So text Bannon B A N N o n to 989-898 right now to claim your free information kit on gold. That's Bannon to 989-898 and protect your future. Today with Birch Gold still America's voice family. Are you on Getter yet?

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[A]

Okay, Stan Woodward, you're the chairman. What's the solution here, you guys? Some action items that people need to focus on right now. We need to keep this paper ballot hand counted in the primary. It's a great beta site test for everybody in the country. You guys need some assistance, explain what the situation is and what the solution is?

[G]

Yeah, so the solution, as Melissa was saying, was a complete paper solution we voted on in September needs about 70,000 ballots have to be counted. So we need about 3,300 counters. But the bigger thing we need is funding to do this. The state reimburses so much and the county reimburses so much or covers so much. So we're trying to raise about another 125 to $150,000 literally today. And we're on a short and final to try to decide on how we're going to do this. You have to have the funds and the. We're ramping the people rapidly. We just crossed a pretty critical threshold on people. But again, 3,300 counters and about 125,000, 150,000 left. So if there's anybody out there that wants to jump in and be Superman today, now's the time to do it. DallasGOP.org handcount is our URL. There's a sign up button on there to count and the giving button is right next to that. And I'm also on x@stanm woodward if anybody wants to reach out direct. But yeah. Dallasgop.org handcount and timescritical. I know we're, it's a, you know, late breaking here, but appreciate you and Mike Lindell and the president jumping in earlier in the week, getting behind this. It's a huge project. We got a great team. It's on the launch pad and ready to go.

[A]

One more time, where do people go? I want them to go right now. Where they go right now.

[G]

Dallasgop.org handcount real simple. And you've got a sign up button on the left if you want to count. And then the donate to the hand count effort button on the right gets you right into some restricted accounts that are used Only for the hand count. So that's really critical. And again, if anybody wants to contact me directly, there's an [e-mail] or you can find me on X@stanm. Woodward.

[A]

Perfect. Thank you, brother. Melissa Katz, what's your social media handles?

[D]

Okay, on exits, Melissa M. Katz, usa. On Getter, it's Melissa M. Katz. And on True social, it's Melissa MCAT 1776. And thank you, Steve, for having us. So important. No, no, the Dallas Republican Party, it is now the grassroots that are leading this.

[A]

Yeah, no, we have to get this done today. And in fact, I'm gonna talk to Brad about getting you guys up here at 5:00 today. So thank you, ma'.

[E]

Am.

[A]

Thank you, Stan. Thank you, Mel. In Dallas, paper ballots hand counted, the holy grail of election integrity. Ryan Grim joins us now from Drop Site News. Sir, you had a piece yesterday talking about how the, I guess the labor government or Starmer is going out of its way to shut down the monetization of sites like Breitbart. But I want you to step back for a second and tell, because I think what's going on in the UK and we, we get hit with this a lot. What is the difference in the UK and the US as tough as it is in the US The UK Is actually laying out a model that a lot of the radical Democrats want to use about shutting down free speech. Can you walk us through it?

[B]

I mean, one of the great things about the United States is that we have a First Amendment. I think a lot of people don't realize how special and unique that is. And the First Amendment allows not just journalists, but any citizens, you know, to publish classified information to, you know, register a hateful opinion if they, if they want to do so. If you don't have a First Amendment, the government can then dictate, you know, what can be published and can define what counts as hate. What counts as hate speech. Obviously here in the United States you can't, you know, you can't direct violent threats at somebody like that is, that is a crime. But beyond that, you have deep First Amendment protections. And so in the UK now that you have very little protections around speech if what you're saying is, you know, determined to be, you know, against what the government says is allowed. They're going particularly after critics of Israel. But it's, it goes broader than that, too.

[A]

So what are they doing specifically with Breitbart? Talk about this demonetization? How's it actually work?

[B]

So this came up during the push back against Jeremy Corbyn. So you have to go kind of back to that period, remember? So Corbynism takes over the Labour Party and what we now know. And this comes from an adapted excerpt from the book the Fraud by Paul Holden. I highly recommend it, if any. It's an investigation into Keir Starmer. And so they're going after Jeremy Corbyn. And so they identify the kind of media structure that had developed around Corbyn that's mostly a left wing structure, but, and they, and so they, they secretly then finance these organizations that are said to be kind of grassroots Britons who are simply concerned about misinformation and disinformation and hate speech. What, what we can now reveal is that this was part of Keir Starmer's political machine and the goal was to defeat Corbynism and take over the Labour Party, you know, via Keir Starmer. But while they're going after the left, they also start going after alt right and right wing populist media as well. And that's where Breitbart and also the Federalist and Zero Hedge and some others come into their, their sights. And, you know, they don't, they start with the government office and the parliament and get them to demonetize Breitbart, but then they go further. They go to, you know, Ford other corporations and they, and they start to create.

Avenues for corporations to just simply say, oh, if this organization says I should not be, you know, placing my ads on this particular news site, then I will, I will do it. And that's how you can demonetize news organizations en masse, which, which they did then to Breitbart and the Federalist and others.

[A]

Now that you've broken this story, is there going to be a remedy or is the UK still, because everybody knows, very hesitant to say certain things in the uk, to talk about certain topics, to even go on some of their shows about being shut down or having charges brought against them.

[B]

Frankly, I think it depends on what conservatives here in the United States do, because when he was running this operation, Trump was in the wilderness. And, you know, he came out like the Starmer operation came after Trump directly as well in the context of Brexit and also their, you know, their disagreements with Trump politically. They didn't think Trump would be coming back. And so now that now that Trump is back in the White House and Breitbart Federalists and others have not been destroyed, he did manage to pretty effectively destroy a lot of left wing outlets in the uk, the right wing outlets have survived. So I think that the question really is, you know, will, will there be pressure applied to Starmer, who's, Whose chief of staff, you know, orchestrated this? His, his current chief of staff is the one who was, you know, the leading director behind this campaign. So it depends what the conservative movement here in the US I think, does to put pressure on Starmer and what.

[A]

What, what, what that pressure would look.

[B]

Like, what I think public statements from conservative figures to say that this type of censorship of American news outlets, you know, you know, I think we, we're entitled to our opinion about the way that they censor British news outlets, but for them to be trying to censor American news outlets is far beyond the pale.

[A]

Amazing. Ryan, we're going to be all over the story. Look forward to having you back. I want people to start going to your site on Dropsite news. Where do people go? What's your social media?

[B]

Yeah, dropsitenews.com on all social. And we're on all social platforms that, you know, robsitenews. Yeah, I think you're, I think the posse will find a lot useful there.

[A]

I think they will find a lot useful you. You're an intrepid reporter, sir, and a voice of truth. Sometimes people love it and sometimes people love it less, but you're a warrior. Thank you so much for joining us on today. Appreciate you. Appreciate you, sir. Ryan Grimm, one of the toughest guys. Toughest boot leather, Raw Egg Nationalist. I couldn't have a better tee up for you. In fact, sir, that's not your actual name. You've gone. You have been known as Raw Egg Nationalist and become so famous in our movement. Exactly. For kind of what Ryan Graham's talking about in your home country. They've gone out of their way to try to shut you down and call you everything in the book. Is that correct?

[E]

It's great to be with you, Steve. Yeah, they have. I mean, so I was posting anonymously on Twitter as Raw Egg nationalist from about 2020. And then as I started to become more prominent in around about 2024, I started to get attention from the authorities. And then in the summer of 2020, I was doxed by an activist organization in the UK called Hope Not Hate, which incidentally works directly with the government and receives hundreds of thousands of pounds from the UK government. So there's a very, very clear suggestion, actually that my identity was revealed to the world because the UK government wanted that to happen. And it's similar to things that have happened in the US with People like Douglas Mackey, for example, Ricky Vaughan, you know, he was an anonymous poster and he was the subject of what was probably a kind of government backed attempt not only to reveal his identity but then also to persecute him and prosecute him. So I mean there are very, very serious, very, very sinister things happening in the UK at the moment around free speech and it's good that people in America are really paying attention now.

[A]

Now we're going to take a short commercial break, bring you back for an entire segment and a half. I want to drill down on your beliefs and your thoughts when Hope Not Hate did this. They're funded by the UK government. They wanted harm to come to you. That's why you were doxxed. They saw you as a threat. They saw you as a massive cultural and political threat and that's why they did it. And nothing could be more dangerous. They wanted harm to come to you. We're gonna take a short commercial break. Burch Gold markets are in turbulence. Find out about your retirement. What if he had the brightest mind in the War Room delivering critical financial research every month? Steve Bannon here. War Room listeners know Jim Rickards. I love this guy. He's our wise man. A former CIA, Pentagon and White House advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets. Jim predicted Trump's electoral College victory exactly 50, 312 to 226, down to the actual number itself. Now he's issuing a dire warning about April 11, a moment that could define Trump's presidency and your financial future. His latest book, Money GPT, exposes how AI is setting the stage for financial chaos. Bank runs at lightning speeds, algorithm driven crashes and even threats to national security. Right now, War Room members get a free copy of MoneyGPT when they sign up for Strategic Intelligence. This is Jim's flagship financial newsletter, Strategic Intelligence. I read it. You should read it. Time is running out. Go to rickardswarroom.com that's all, one word. Rickards War Room records with an S. Go now and claim your free book. That's rickardswarroom.com do it today. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

Okay, the raw egg nationalist joins us. One of the most controversial individuals I think globally. So what, what is your. You've got a new book and I'm going to get to that in a second. But you really rose to really global prominence in this movement about the return to masculinity and as such the British government doxed you and wanted your name known so that you could be intimidated, which you're not. But walk us through. What is it about your beliefs, your philosophies about masculinity that the existing established order finds so dangerous to the fact that the government itself, through one of its apparatuses, would actually try to open you up to harm and have your career ruined? Sir?

[E]

Well, I think it's truism, actually, you know, that tyrants of all stripes across the ages are afraid of men, and they're afraid of men who are organized and disciplined, motivated men who associate with one another, who pursue shared goals and values. You know, if you read Aristotle, if you read the politics book five of the Politics where Aristotle talks about tyrants and what tyrants do in order to maintain their power, he says, look, tyrants prevent men from associating with one another. Tyrants close down the voluntary associations, the gymnasia. Tyrants prevent men from associating with one another. They prevent.

They prevent men from sort of having shared projects. They set men at each other's throats in order that they aren't at the throat of the tyrant himself. And my message really has been from the start, you know, it's kind of a Jordan, a kind of message that Jordan Peterson actually, in a kind of milder form, has been putting forward, and that's been very, very popular and really caught on, which is that men need to take control of their own lives. You need to take control of what you eat. You need to work out. But beyond that, beyond the kind of limited scope of the Jordan Peterson sort of clean up your own bedroom message, my message is a political one. You know, you need to sort yourself out. You need to find other men who share your values, who share your goals, who are patriotic, and, you know, you need to work towards the renewal of the nation. And so I think really it is. It's this fundamental truth. You know, tyrannical governments hate men who are organized and who are patriotic and who have, well, basically testosterone.

[A]

Could you look back over British or American history, like Victorian era? I mean, are there specific ways you can point to times when men, you know, not just with diet and with habits like that, but with associations and bonding and camaraderie, that this has happened before, that you had a stronger nation because you had. You could actually point to historical examples where men bonding together with camaraderie, this kind of sense of purpose, having sorted out personal problems in United to drive the Nation forward, has happened before in either British or American history.

[E]

Yeah, of course. I mean, I think you only need to look at the American Revolution to see what, you know, what a small, determined hard core of men who love freedom, who are patriots, you know, who want to resist tyrannical government, who want to achieve political representation can do. You know, I mean you have these movements in the US of 3 percenters and actually it was probably, you know, a far smaller percentage actually of the colonial, pre revolutionary population that actually did fight in the Revolutionary War. But there are examples from throughout history. I mean one of my favorite examples actually is the conquistadors, you know, and what they managed to do in not only in the Caribbean, but then also.

On the Central American mainland. You know, you had a tiny, tiny number of very, very determined, well organized men led by these inspirational leaders, men like Hernan Cortes, Francisco Pizarro, who were able basically to bring an enormous, enormous empire to its knees and to create a totally new political order. It's, it's absolutely not an overstatement to say that actually small groups of very determined, very motivated, trained men can actually really, you know, totally flip political order on its head. And that's a message that rebounds throughout actually the history of the western world.

[A]

Now Dr. Cornish Dale, you actually have a strong academic background. Of course they tried to trash you and said you're ethnonationalist. You have these kooky theories about men's diet and testosterone. Walk us through that. What are exactly your theories that so freaked out the established order to the point that they tried to get you actually shut down?

[E]

Well, one of the things I think that really they didn't like. I wrote a book in 2022 that was actually had a very good forward from Norvin Laden, who I know is a treasured guest of yours. She's a good friend of mine. The book was called the Eggs Benedict Option, which is an ironic reference to Rod Dreher's Benedict option. But it was about the plan for a global plant based diet and about the relationship between control of the food supply and political control. And this is actually something that goes right back to Plato. So in Plato's Republic, Plato has Socrates discussed this sort of hypothetical, harmonious, perfect society where you control the mass of the ordinary people by making them eat a vegetarian diet, you restrict their access to meat. And that means that basically in modern terms, you know, the men have lower testosterone, they're not aggressive, they don't, they're not acquisitive, they're not competitive, they don't really see, seek to do anything other than sort of work and live a kind of mediocre Life. And we're seeing the return of this kind of idea, I think, with this plant based agenda. And so that was the subject of the book.

What is really going on with this push to deprive us of animal foods? Why is the global medical establishment, why are NGOs, why are governments, why are captains of industry and celebrities all telling us that we need to stop eating meat, we need to stop drinking milk and eating eggs and other animal products? And it's about. Well, fundamentally my contention is that it's about control. It's about consolidation of control of the food supply, mainly in the hands of corporations. So that's a long term trend that we see, I think.

In diet and nutrition in food across the 20th century, is the consolidation of control of the food supply in the hands of a smaller and smaller number of larger and larger players. And it's been a disaster for our health. I mean, this whole Make America Healthy Again movement that's being spearheaded by RFK Jr. I mean, it is fundamentally a revolt against corporate control of the food supply and the terrible, terrible effects it's had on our health. So I think that that's, I think that that really scared them. I think that that was something that really made them sit up and take notice because it's quite a novel interpretation. And it's not the interpretation that we're told, you know, when we, when we're told that we need to stop eating animal products, we're told we need to save the planet. We need to stop, you know, we need to stop livestock burping and breaking wind to, you know, to stop the planet overheating. And we also need to feed 10 billion people and especially 5, you know, 5 billion people in Africa by the middle of the century. So we need to abandon this wasteful animal agriculture. But actually, really, I think that that is just an ideological excuse for consolidation of control of the food supply and of the population.

[A]

Now you take it on. Talk to me about this new book, the last minute, because you wrote a trilogy, then there was a gap. Now you've come up with a new book that's going to come out, I think in the middle of the month.

From a skyhorse, Tony Lyons and the team. It's the Last Men. Do you take that off of. Was it Fukuyama's? Is that a rift on him? What do you mean about the Last Men? About liberalism and destroying masculinity?

[E]

Yeah, so it's a direct reference to Fukuyama. And in fact, Fukuyama is the main kind of. He provides the Main framing of the argument of the book about what's been happening in terms of the development of democracy and what that does to men. So Fukuyama talks about thymos, about the. About what happens to thymos, which is basically the way that the ancient Greeks used to refer to spiritedness, to the kind of things that drive men to achieve, to compete with one another. Fukuyama's argument is basically that the triumph of liberal democracy is the triumph of a particular kind of thymos at the expense of another. So, you know, in liberal democracy, we can be recognized as equal, but we can't be recognized as better. And so that has very, very distinct effects, I think, on male behavior, because, you know, testosterone drives men to compete with one another. It drives men to want to be better. But we've created a political system that is making it increasingly hard for certain forms of fundamental male behavior actually ever to be expressed. I mean, the book is a follow on, actually from a Tucker Carlson documentary that I was in in 2022. So this is another reason why I really, really kind of sprang to prominence is because I featured in this Tucker Carlson documentary called the End of Men. I was pretty much the main star, along with RFK Jr about testosterone decline and about the causes of testosterone decline, things like exposure to pesticides, sedentary lifestyles, obesity, all that kind of stuff. But it was also about the political implications of testosterone decline on a civilizational level. And testosterone is declining on a civilizational level. You know, there are studies like the Massachusetts Male Aging Study, for example, which took place from the late 80s into the early 2000s in the Boston area, that showed that on average, year on year, male testosterone levels are declining by 1%. Now, that might not sound like a lot, but look, 25 years, that's a decline of a quarter. 50 years, that's a decline of half. You know, what's going to happen in 100 years? Are men going to have any testosterone at all? And the thing is, you know, testosterone isn't the only thing that makes men masculine, but it's a very, very important part of the equation. And it's something that's generally neglected, I think, in this quite broad literature on the crisis of masculinity, if you will. So, you know, Jordan Peterson talks about it, Richard Reeves, Senator Josh Hawley has a book about, you know, what's wrong with young men. But none of them talk about testosterone. And, you know, really, really scary things are happening to testosterone levels across the Western world. And I think if we don't do something actually to Address that, then we're never going to solve problem.

[A]

What is your action plan? What are the two or three things the audience should be thinking about and pressing on with to increase the testosterone levels?

[E]

Well, I mean, there are some pretty simple fundamental things that you can do. Clean up your diet, stop eating processed food. Processed food has been a big target for RFK Jr. In the first year of the or slightly less than a year of the MAHA agenda. Processed food is really bad. If you can ditch processed food and start preparing your own food, preparing your own meals, learning how to cook, eating nutrient dense animal foods in particular, building a diet around things like good quality red meat, eggs, milk, other dairy products, etc. That will, as a man, that will absolutely improve your testosterone levels. Exercise, lifting weights in particular. But you know, if you're overweight, just losing weight will increase your testosterone significantly. One thing actually that is neglected is sleep. Sleep is a very, very powerful determinant of hormonal health. There's a study that shows, for example, if you double your sleep from four to eight hours, you can double your testosterone levels. So get serious about getting a good night's sleep. So those are three things. If you attend to your diet, if you do some exercise and you sort out your sleep, your health will be, will be incredibly, incredibly improved just by doing those three things alone.

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[B]

War Room.

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Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

Raw egg Nationalist. The audiences love this. Where did they go to get the book? We're gonna have you back on next week by hooker crook. We'll figure it out because the audience wants to spend more time with you. Where do they get the book today? Where they order.

[E]

So you can. It's being published by Skyhorse. You can order it directly from skyhorse.com or you can just go to Amazon and pre order it there. It will be out in hardback and I think in audiobook format as well on December 16th.

[A]

Now, a lot of people already are in your room are texting me. They love your Twitter feed, your X feed. What are your coordinates on social media? Where do people go to find out more about you and your philosophy?

[E]

So on Twitter I'm Roag Nationalist. My handle is babygravy9 and I'm on substack. I've got a substack that's rawegstack.com where I publish weekly essays, pieces about health and fitness, political commentary. I'm also working as a reporter and opinion writer at the moment for Infowars for Alex Jones. So you'll regularly see my reporting and opinion pieces Friday, Saturday, sorry, Saturday, Sunday, Monday on Infowars as well. But I mean my Twitter feed is really like the central hub. So I do actually have rawegnationalist.com as well. If you go on there. That gives some information about me and links. But it's Twitter really.

[A]

Perfect. You've joined a group of pirates. I can tell you Alex Jones and that great team at Infowars. It's very fitting. The Rawag nationals are there. Sir, are you doing any public. I know you're going out to West Coast. Is anything that people can see you or go is your schedule up on.

[E]

Your Twitter feed it will be. I'm not sure what I'm doing on the west coast yet, but I know I may very well be doing some speaking. But I know that I'm coming back to D.C. next week. I may be going to New York. I think there's going to be possibly be a launch party for the book in New York. I'm still finalizing that.

The details will be released as soon as I know them.

[A]

We will work with Tony and we'll have you back in the war room next week. I may actually be back myself. Until then, one more time, the Twitter feed. Where do people go, baby?

[E]

Gravy9. And my substack is rawegstack.com let's go.

[A]

Order that book today, folks. A great gift, particularly if you got young men in your life. Roy Nationalists. Doc, thank you so much. Appreciate you.

[E]

What a pleasure. Thank you.

[A]

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[H]

Thank you.

[A]

Steve Day. Thank you, brother.

Make sure you go, go to Rogue Nationalist substack, go to his Twitter feed. You see him over at Alex Jones. Get the book. This guy's made a huge difference and this is why the British government tried to take him out. Talk about making a huge difference. Mike Lindell, this is a mess. And I'm telling you this, the key that picks the lock. I've been saying we got to get a U.S. attorney on this, this thing under walls. A guy who was actually nominated by the Democratic Party vice president states it shows you how radical they are. This situation. The Somalians in Minnesota, is there any truth to the rumor that you're going to run for governor?

[F]

Well, we had to file something, Steve, yesterday that had to be filed. If I do run and I'm 90 some percent, I'm there and we're going to make a decision next Thursday, December 11th. But this thing that had to be filed yesterday.

It was just a Minnesota regulation and then the media grabbed it and ran with it. With everything going on in Minnesota, Steve, I grew up there. I love my state. And it's just being destroyed by the Somalians by the end. Our governor, the mayor of Minneapolis and now this. This morning it was reported about Keith Ellison. He might even be involved in this rather attorney general who's attacking my Lindale recovery network. It's just corruption, corruption, corruption. And I go down to the streets of Minneapolis. I was there a week ago, Steve, and it's just, it's so change. It's almost like a ghost town. People afraid to go down there. And then all the empty buildings. Remember Waltz let it get burned to the ground in the summer of 2020. It's all just disgusting.

[A]

Okay, we're going to have tonight, we don't have time now we're going to play this explosive charge, I think from the Minnesota state Senate about Keith Ellison being a part of this, taking money, et cetera. So we'll get into this. This thing in Minneapolis and in Minnesota is sickening and it's got to be dealt with. President Trump said, hey, I want them all out. Mike Davis said, the advice, I want them all out. In the interim until we get you back tonight, I need you to talk to me about deals. Warren posse loves you, support you running for governor. But most importantly, they want deals.

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What do you got?

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Thank you, brother. See you tonight. Andrew Covet in the Charlie Kirk show is next here. Real America's voice. We'll be back here at five. See you then.

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