
Episode 4974: Is India The Lifeline Of Russia; The Faucet Is Still Open On Immigration ...
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Stephen K. Bannon
We certainly expect that there's going to be a lot more charges that are going to be. That are going to be brought against this suspect. Now, you know, what you heard in that press conference, obviously was very valid valedictory. There was a lot of credit being passed around the room with, with good reason. Obviously, there's a lot of work that went into this. And certainly the deputy Attorney general, Dan Bongino, I think, gets some credit for having a lot of focus, bringing in an outside team, a team from outside the Washington field office. There were these were agents from, from the FBI, from atf, who were brought here and asked to essentially put fresh eyes on evidence that they've had. I think it's also, however, misleading. What you heard a lot in that room a little while ago, this idea that that evidence was just gathering dust and that there wasn't a lot of resources. I can tell you that, you know, talking to people at the FBI, that there's been a lot of focus on this. You know, this happens all the time where you have a fresh set of eyes on evidence can reveal new things. And I think that is what has happened here. Certainly from talking to two sources, I.
Rosemary Jenks
Think we learned some really interesting things.
Dave Brat
And we also did not get answers to some key questions. First of all, the most interesting thing that I heard them describe was a new team. Director Patel described bringing in a new team after he and Dan Bongino became the leaders of the FBI to review all of the millions of data, lines.
Rosemary Jenks
Of data.
Phone calls, credit card receipts.
Dave Brat
For Nike shoes, credit card receipts for all sorts of battery and explosive device pieces and material, wires, nine volt batteries. They described a new team coming into the Washington field office of the FBI to scour through that material and that they credit that second look, essentially with.
Rosemary Jenks
Fresh eyes to this breakthrough in the.
Dave Brat
Case and finding the suspect on the.
Rosemary Jenks
Other end of the ledger.
Dave Brat
They did not answer the sort of critical question that most reporters were asking there and that I'm curious about, which is what was the piece of evidence.
Rosemary Jenks
That tied Brian Cole, a very introverted.
Dave Brat
Young man who lives with his parents in Woodbridge, Virginia, was what piece of evidence ultimately tied this explosive plot to that individual?
I think it's fair to suspect that there might be some sort of political motive that leans toward accelerationists. Know, if they put pipe bombs outside both major parties headquarters, it kind of leads you to suspect, at least in theory, a certain message that this person was trying to send. Right.
Right.
Stephen K. Bannon
But you also have to consider the, you know, some people are going to think that they were put. That these devices were put there as a distraction to make the January six efforts more effective to pull police off of it. You have to prove or disprove that to the public satisfaction, at least to the reasonable public satisfaction. And then you have the issues where, you know, if you get somebody putting an I THE at the RNC and.
Dave Brat
You'Ve got an idea of what their motivation was, or if they put it.
Stephen K. Bannon
At the dnc, you have an idea.
Dave Brat
Of what their motivation was.
Stephen K. Bannon
When they put it at both, it puts it in a whole different. Whole different realm. And you have to start determining whether. Are we talking an anarchist? Are we, you know, what is going on here?
Dave Brat
Yeah. I also wonder, Steve, what it tells you that this suspect was found in Virginia, like right outside the nation's capital.
Stephen K. Bannon
I think you're going to find people.
Dave Brat
Like that just about anywhere.
Stephen K. Bannon
And.
Because of his location, if this is the person.
He had access to the capital, unfettered access to the Capitol area, and likely had been. If this was politically motivated or anarchy, whatever it is like that, they were probably radicalized online and they had somebody nearby. And it's. It's not like there are any shortage of anarchists or extremists in Washington D.C. 's area.
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. You just not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
Dave Brat
MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish.
Stephen K. Bannon
That any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.
Dave Brat
Country, this country will be saved. War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
All right, everyone, welcome to the War room. Dave Bratt sitting in for the great Stephen K. Bannon. We're all starting to hunker down at Liberty in Virginia and probably up in the swamp for the big nor'. Easter. Probably get a dusting of a quarter of an inch. But anyway, good evening to everyone. We got a great show for you. We just had the pipe bomb. Breaking news four years later. I think you've all been kept up by Steve and the show as well as anyone. And we've got the great Julie Kelly coming in as soon as she calls in, we're gonna switch over to Sam Faddis and cover the bases on geopolitics around the globe. Before I get to him, I just opened up Steve's paper of record, the salmon color Financial Times, and saw the following headline. It fits in what we're going to talk with, with Sam as well. Emmanuel Macron of France warns of disintegration risk to the world, to the world order in Xi Jinping meetings with China. Macron in China. So what's the, what's this disintegration risk? I think, I think we kind of agree with him on that. But let's see what, what's the source of the problem? Macron says we have many ways to converge. Always the optimist. That's good. He added, with China, many ways to converge. Xi earlier called on Macron to hold high the banner of multilateralism, globalism, just what's been going on for the past 30 years when China's been getting rich and powerful. Let's just keep it rolling and that eliminates all kinds of interference. In quotes, she told Macron, I'm being a bit sarcastic here. I hope you can read that. Macron said it was time for a new page in quotes, two countries and wants China to commit to more investment in Europe by 2030. Oh, now we're getting interesting. We got an ask of China that's, that's stepping out there. Expecting a response is even more.
More of a question. China's export controls on rare earths, something we're interested in, whose production it dominates and which are vital to industries from automobiles to defense, are also an acute concern for European countries. Xi said China's next five year plan, which is due to be formally released in March, offered opportunities for French industry despite Beijing's repeated emphasis on industrial self reliance from Xi to Macron without committing to specific measures. And so that is the difference between the French Macron and President Trump over here who's fighting and using leverage. Macron just looks to me like he's just wishing upon a star that Xi is all sudden going to be a nice guy. And I asked Sam Faz to come in because we also had meetings between India's Modi and Putin over the last couple days. And so Sam Faddis, welcome to the show. I'm glad you're on. Steve's been covering the waterfront. We're trying to pivot toward domestic, but these international issues with Venezuela and everything keep us, keep us busy. And so I'll just open the floor to you if you want to start off with maybe the India Putin meetings and then take the floor is yours. Thanks for being with us, Sam.
Sam Faddis
Right. Well, look, the Indians have been close allies of the Russians like for decades, right? I mean, going back, all of their military equipment came from the Soviet Union. So that lash up has been tight for a very long time. And there are a whole bunch of people in the Indian government who basically came, came up in the ranks, and that is their primary alliance, not their, not their alliance with us. And the Indians buy a huge quantity or have been buying a huge quantity of Russian oil, which is crucial to everything because that's where the Russians get all their money to run the war in Ukraine, amongst other things. So it's a really big deal. We've been leaning on the Indians to stop buying Russian oil and they have been moving in that direction, doing some concrete things. And.
And you know, that's why Putin is there. Putin is there to strong arm them and say, hey, this is getting serious, man. You're cutting off our cash and we got to go back the other way. So Modi's in a tough spot. He's got his longtime ally Russia in his face and the United States telling him the future of your economy is with us and selling in the United States. And that ain't going to happen unless you walk away from the Russians. So that's, that's the backdrop to this in regard to Macron. Look.
I love the French people. I love going to France. The French are useless when it comes to national security and foreign policy. My entire career at CIA, every time we oppose sanctions on somebody, five minutes later we turned around and found that the French were going behind our backs to sell gear to name a bad place. Libya, Iran, everybody. So, you know, the French are always out there, honestly complicating the situation, not particularly helpful to us. That's no surprise.
Dave Brat
Yeah. Back on the India piece, just for a minute, I was on India Times a month ago on some other issue and I got him excited last week on H1B visa abuse. But on the piece a month ago.
They were not happy with us. And I said on the tariffs, that's what it was. And I said, look, you guys, you know, you're taking care a little bit of the Indian Ocean, you're taking care of a little the Pakistan border. And other than that, the US has got to take care of the world. And they like hearing that. They're a powerful entity. Right. They were all yesterday on the tv, they're all about the handshake with Putin and the formalities and the pleasantries and they just love that. And they speak highly and so good. They're proud of their culture. And Steve likes Modi, Trump likes Modi. They're good partners. Right, but is it accurate to say that they have a de minimis role on the global stage? And I mean, they're 1.4 billion people. They should assume their responsibility. Right? In Hindu, you know, political philosophy and dharma and all that. It's all there in writing. They all believe you need a strong leader so the poor don't get decimated. They believe in justice and all these kind of things, but you never hear a word of philosophy or ethics or geopolitic theory from the Indians. It's just always oil and, you know, the immediate needs. What can we realistically expect from India moving Forward?
Sam Faddis
Well, you're 100% that correct in that they don't actually, you know, from a national security standpoint, geopolitical role, they, they don't exert a lot of, of influence. They don't have a lot of power. I mean, look there, there are a lot of great people in India and, and a lot of wonderful things that have happened there. It remains an unbelievably overpopulated, desperately poor country. So India is a long, long way from fulfilling its role. I mean, realistically, that is going to be a long, long time coming. And what you read about, look at their military. I don't care what the numbers are of planes, ships, troops. Realistically, half the planes don't fly, half the tanks don't run, and most of those units can't perform their tasks. So there is a big gap between what they want to be and what they are.
Dave Brat
Yeah, very good. Sam, can you stay with us after the break for a few more minutes? I want to go back to, to the war between Russia and Ukraine to cover that a bit. In the meantime, I want to give some thanks to Birch Gold and a couple of our sponsors right now. They have an incredible deal going on right now. There's a lot of politicians that should be getting coal in their stocking for Christmas. But Birchgold thinks as a smart planner, you deserve silver. Wait till you hear this one. That's why for every $5,000 you purchase between now and December 22nd, Birch Gold will send you an ounce of silver, which is up 60% this year. See, smart people diversify and have a hedge. That's why I encourage you to buy gold from Birch Gold. With the rate cuts from the Fed in 2026, the dollar will be worth Less. And what happens if the AI bubble bursts? Diversify. Let Birchgold Group help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA in physical gold. And for every $5,000 you buy, you'll get an ounce of silver for your stocking or for your kids. Stocking. What a great way to teach them about saving smartly. To take advantage of all this, just text Steve Bannon's name, Bannon B A N N o n to 989-898 to claim your eligibility for this offer. Again. Text Ban Bannon to the number 989-898 today because Birch Gold's free silver with qualifying purchase promotion ends December 22nd. Text Bannon to 989-898. Stay. Stay with us after the break with more Sam Fatis.
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All right, Dave Brat, back in the war room. The greats, Stephen K. Bannon and Sam Faddis, former CIA operative officer going way back to Iraq. We're very lucky to have him with us. His life experience.
Informs us as we're doing this tour de force around the world. Sam, I heard Victor Davis Hansen wrote article about a day or so ago on the Ukraine Russia war, and he left the impasse kind of sitting mainly on the border disputes. Right. It's a matter of egos. And Putin needs to claim, hey, to my people, you know, we lost a million people. I've, you know, I took more than a county. And similarly, Zelensky needs to make a claim. You know, hey, I fought hard or whatever, but I have the feeling there's some deeper seated issues there and would love your perspective on what those might be as well.
Sam Faddis
Well, look, clearly the territorial issue is a major thing. I mean, you know, Victor's. Yeah, Victor's right on that. Is that the whole game? No, I don't think so. There's a lot of other things going on. I'll grab a hold of one of them. Money. I mean, you. And I think war is a horrible thing, and we ought to sew this thing up. And for the love of God, it can't end soon enough. A lot of people are getting rich off of this, both in Ukraine and elsewhere. So, you know, our special Inspector General estimates officially 36% of all the money we sent to Afghanistan was stolen. 36% of every. Of all the bucks we sent to Afghanistan was. Went into somebody's pocket. Okay? So that. There's no reason to think that figure is any different in Ukraine. In fact, the former president of Ukraine.
Came out within the last few days and formally said that his estimate is basically the same and that that equals a little bit over $100 billion.
That have gone into the pockets of people in Ukraine. Okay? So the chief of staff for Zelensky, the gatekeeper for Zelensky, is under investigation and probably going to prison for one deal that was $100 million that were ripped off. And that's just, you know, that's. That's not the totality of even what he was involved in on our end. I mean, the defense contractors are rolling in cash every time they announce money that's going to Ukraine. For military aid. The way that works is that money is actually going to Raytheon, Lockheed, General Dynamics, somebody like that, because they're the ones making the weapons. So their stock is up. I mean, over the last decade, worldwide stocks have gone. Profits have gone through the roof on this. And after all, the top, basically the top five are essentially all American companies in terms of defense contractors. But after that, the next tier is all European companies, and they're all companies in France and Great Britain and Netherlands. So every time you're listening to somebody talk about, like, Macron, we can't end the war in Ukraine, keep in mind that they are rolling in cash because of this war and all that profit goes away. So as sick as it is, a lot of people want this thing to go on because they are getting filthy rich off of it.
Dave Brat
Yeah. And is there a. Is there an interest in, from the U.S. perspective, you know, President Trump, he's talked about oil and paybacks and getting our money back through rare earths. What's in play there? In a minute or so?
Sam Faddis
Well, sure. I mean, then the question is, if you have a peace deal and the war comes to an end, what is the relationship, say, between the United States and Russia after that? So are we going to get access to minerals, Are we going to get access to oil? I'm fine with that. In terms of economic benefit, I have a little bit of hesitation when all of a sudden we're making national security decisions based on those considerations. Right, That's. That's where the rub is.
Dave Brat
Yeah. Similarly with Venezuela, some of this stuff's being couched in terms of the drug war and the gangs and all this kind of thing. But similarly, what other issues are at play down there?
Sam Faddis
Well, look, Maduro is a scumbag, and it would be a great and wonderful day if the government in Venezuela vanished and those people could return to a democratic government. I'm all in on that. The question is, how likely is that to happen and what are we going to have to do to make it happen? So my estimation, Maduro is not going anywhere because we're yelling at him and rattling sabers to begin with. Maduro is kept in power by the Cubans first and foremost. He has alliances with the Russians, the Chinese, the Iranians. But it's the Cubans keep him in power. By that, I mean, throughout his. All of his top generals, his top intelligence guys, they're Cubans. His presidential guard is literally a Cuban special forces unit. What that means is Maduro, actually, even if he wanted to quit, can't quit unless Havana tells him to quit. He doesn't even have the ability to leave unless the Cubans say yes. And look, if you're in Cuba and Maduro falls, what do you think? Havana's next? So there's no way. If you, if you haven't, if you have any alternative, there's no way you're letting Maduro fall because you figure the gringos are coming for us, for us next. So it's going to. We need to put that in the calculus. This guy is not just simply going to bag it and jump on a plane and run away.
Dave Brat
Yeah, outstanding. That's news to me. Sam, Pattis, thank you so much for your life's work. Thanks for being with us on the War Room, folks. This is why I say every time I'm on here. Share this platform. Sam Faddis has hit Stephen K. Band. Share the War room with all your friends. We're gonna do a little cold open before Rosemary Jenks comes on and gives us the latest and greatest on the border invasion and the top few issues we should all be concerned about. Denver. Let her rip.
Stephen K. Bannon
Modern day Gestapo is scooping folks up off the streets. They're in unmarked vans, wearing masks, being.
Dave Brat
Shipped off to fort and torture dungeons.
Stephen K. Bannon
No chance to mount a defense, not.
Dave Brat
Even a chance to kiss a loved one goodbye. Just grabbed up by mass agents, shoved.
Stephen K. Bannon
Into those vans and disappeared.
Dave Brat
When you compare the old films of the Gestapo grabbing, grabbing people off the streets of Poland and you compare them to those nondescript thugs who grabbed that, that student, that graduated student, it does look like a Gestapo operation.
Stephen K. Bannon
The United States is running concentration camps.
Sam Faddis
Southern border and that is exactly what they are.
Stephen K. Bannon
They are concentration camps.
Dave Brat
Because if we just roll this clock.
Dr. Carl Jablonowski
On the wall back 75 years, we'd.
Dave Brat
Be looking at a time in Nazi Germany where people ran around with signs like this new ICE sign that says report all foreign invaders to ice. With Uncle Sam there holding up the sign, this could have been a Gestapo member 75 years ago. Report all Jews. When I see ICE, I see slave patrols. The dangers that we saw in, you know, Nazi Germany are the dangers that.
Stephen K. Bannon
We need to react to now and every American.
Dave Brat
I don't care if you're Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative, moderate.
Stephen K. Bannon
People should be forcefully rising up against this. They need to be more willing to go out there and get shot when fighting. That was a direct quote. Get shot when fighting back against some of Trump's policies. One House Democrat saying, quote, and I'll read it to you. Our own base is telling us that what we're doing is not good enough. There needs to be blood to grab the attention of the press and the public.
Dave Brat
We have to occupy all of it. We need to occupy every airport, we need to occupy every border.
Dr. Carl Jablonowski
We need to occupy every, every ICE office.
Dave Brat
All right, folks, Dave Rat back in the war room bringing in Rosemary Jinx. Folks, that is not your grandparents Oldsmobile. That's not your grandparents Democrat party. That's the new Marxist flavor. The voices you heard there. There's a video piece. That's why you need to share this platform with your friends and neighbors who may not be familiar with, with this new flavor of the hard left. All political views are my own, as usual. But the Gestapo rise up in force. I think that was Schumer saying that Hitler all over the place. This is why we have the second Amendment. You got to be willing to use guns. I mean, if, if a conservative member of Congress or a senator said any of these things, you'd be drummed out in two seconds. And, and so we've got Rosemary Jinx with us to give us a feel for what's behind this issue. Of course, it's the border invasion which was illegal. The left uses ignores that most important fundamental issue. They committed the illegal acts with the border invasion. I think of 20 million illegals. But Rosemary, what are the few in bullet point form? We got about a minute and a half and I'll keep you over the break, but what are the few points we should be paying attention, attention to at the, at the war room?
Rosemary Jenks
Dave? You know, the most important issue here is the numbers. And the Democrats have set up this system over the last 50 years to pile in as many foreigners as possible into our country. And they have done a damn good job of it. We have had over a million legal immigrants, over a million temporary workers, and tens of millions of illegal aliens come in at the behest of the Democrat Party. They are now freaking out because people are starting to talk about how maybe we've had enough. You know, the Trump administration is trying to deport illegal aliens according to the laws passed by Congress and the rest of America is talking about. It's too much. You know, we need to have a moratorium. This is starting to percolate up through the American people. We've had enough. There's too much fraud. There are too many national security risks. It's just too much. It's time to get it under control. And the Democrats can't stand that.
Dave Brat
More with Rosemary drinks Jenks at the Immigration Accountability Project. Rosemary, what's Your website so people can go there over the break and check you out.
Rosemary Jenks
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All right, folks, back with Rosemary Jenks from Immigration Accountability Project. Accountability. Rosemary, what's your website again? So there's no way to get. This is a very complex issue, right? Just the number of visas, the numbers, it's staggering. That's why I need you all to go out there and do your homework. Rosemary, where should they go? And. And then why don't after you give that, give us, what are the top three issues they should be looking for on your website?
Rosemary Jenks
Well, the website is IAP action.com IAP action.com and you'll see at the top of the page there's a tab for resources. We have fact sheets on all the different kinds of visas. We have a description of the entire legal immigration system. It's all very easy to understand. We've got legislation and the congressional ranking system that you're looking at on the screen right now. So all of that is on there. Easy to find, easy to learn, what you need. The entire site is searchable, so you can find everything easily. IAP action.com is the website. The top issues again, the numbers. The numbers are too high.
Dave Brat
Yeah.
Rosemary Jenks
You know, Dave, let me ask you, if your basement's flooding, what do you do first? Do you turn off the water or do you start mopping?
Dave Brat
Yeah, right.
Rosemary Jenks
I mean the, the obvious answer is you turn off the water. Right. So we've got to do that and then we've got to spend the resources to root out the jihadis, the fraudsters, the criminals and get them out of our country. They must go. The third thing is we have got to break the pipeline between foreign students, OPT and H1BS. We cannot take jobs from our young people. Our college graduates who have done everything we've told them to do, have to be able to get jobs in our country. If Republicans don't focus on this, they're going to lose the midterms. People who are unemployed are not going to vote for them. It's just that simple.
Dave Brat
Yeah, well, I was going to ask you that when you said the left is sweating because people are starting to figure this out. I think that is true. And they're starting to connect the dots on a lot of this. The wars, the 37 trillion in debt, the kids can't buy a house till they're 40. It's all linked to jobs. A lot of that's due to the H1B. We went over the numbers on that a couple of shows ago. India was not happy. But.
Why isn't this Trump wins on it, why can't other candidates win on it? It's because they're not vocal enough or what. You know, these intermediate off off year elections we've been having are too tight. And so what's your recommendation for these Republicans to do a little bit better and inspire the people?
Rosemary Jenks
Yeah, Republicans need to go bold. But the first thing they need to do is actually learn the issue. They need to know how to talk about it because right now they are petrified of being called the Gestapo and Hitler and all the other nonsense that the Democrats are going to throw at them. You have to be willing to take some arrows here, but you need to know what you're talking about. So learn the issue, which is very easy to do. We're here to help. And then be bold. The American people want bold action. It's our country. We've got to take it back.
Dave Brat
Yeah, well, and I, in closing, I thought President Trump has shut down the Spigot. So what's the problem?
Rosemary Jenks
Well, he hasn't shut down the spigot yet. He is. He's starting to the, there's the latest order, is that the, you know, the nationals of the 19 countries that are state sponsors and security threats have been blocked from coming. But we need a full time moratorium. It needs to be 100%. We've got to take a break from the million legal immigrants, the million guest workers. We're dealing with the illegal aliens. And that's great and God bless President Trump for that. He has done a phenomenal job there. We've got to address legal immigration, including the H1BS, the OPT, chain migration, the visa lottery, all of these things. And the best way to do that is to stop it all temporarily with a moratorium. Chip Roy, Congressman Chip Roy has introduced a moratorium bill that would do this and then we can figure out how to get our house in order and how to create an immigration policy that actually serves the interests of Americans.
Dave Brat
Yep, spot on. And just to state the obvious, Rosemary Jenks is fighting against all the major donors and big tech folks who want cheap labor. Right. And China and the whole global establishment we've been talking about all hour on the geopolitics. So, Rosemary, do you have a, how, how can people support you? Where do they go for that?
Rosemary Jenks
IAP action.com. there's a donate button there. Please support us. We need all the help we can get to keep holding members of Congress accountable and to get this information out. It's a, as Dave said, it's a complicated issue. We are more than happy to teach anyone in Congress about this issue and show them what it's doing to Americans because this, it is devastating Americans, the policy that we have now. And it's got to change.
Dave Brat
Yeah. Outstanding. Thank you. Rosemary Jenks, thanks for all you've done on this issue for decades. Keep it up.
Rosemary Jenks
Thank you.
Dave Brat
All right. You bet. All right. I think we got a cold open for Dr. Carl Jablonowski, research scientists with Children's Health Defense, Denver. A key CDC panel has voted to.
Rosemary Jenks
Delay any decision for now about when.
Dave Brat
Kids should get vaccinated and what vaccines they should receive. That panel has been dramatically changed by.
Sam Faddis
HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Who.
Dave Brat
Fired several members of the panel earlier.
Sam Faddis
This year and then installed handpicked vaccine.
Dave Brat
Skeptics in their place. At the top of today's agenda, the hepatitis B shot, the first vaccine found.
Sam Faddis
To prevent cancer, and whether it should.
Dave Brat
Still be given to newborn babies.
Sam Faddis
People try to look at and understand.
Dave Brat
This Panel in its entirety.
Rosemary Jenks
Is there a single career scientist who.
Sam Faddis
Is presenting as a part of this body?
Rosemary Jenks
Yeah, that was remarkable today.
Sam Faddis
The three people who presented, technically, they're.
Rosemary Jenks
From CDC now, but they, they're not CDC scientists. One is a contractor brought on recently by the secretary, the other is a political appointee, and the third person is from the acp. So no career CDC scientists or vaccine experts present it.
Dave Brat
I think that's part of the issue.
Rosemary Jenks
If you don't have people that know the data, that know safety, that know the science, it makes it very confusing.
Dave Brat
And, you know, two of these presenters actually had a retracted paper as well.
All right, Back in the war room with Dr. Carl Jablonowski. I thought brat was a tough one. Doctor, thanks so much for coming on the show. We've got our own research scientists in house. Of course. Expect nothing less from the war room. And so, Doctor, why don't you catch us up on the. The current events from the conference that's been going on.
Dr. Carl Jablonowski
Yeah, so it is quite a heated conference meeting, as you would expect, because both sides believe that the other position is harming babies.
What the conversation is really on is the birth hepatitis B vaccine, which is recommended to be given at Day of Life.
There are two issues that the proponents for the vaccine never mention. One is the adverse events that manifest from autoimmune issues related to the vaccine, like Guillain Barre syndrome or other demyelinating conditions. And the other is aluminum, which is in both of the available infant vaccines. You know, aluminum is the third most abundant element on earth and yet not a single animal makes use of it as a biological function. And there's a really good reason, and it's because it's a neurotoxin. And when you inject a baby with aluminum, some fraction of it is going to go into the brain. And once aluminum gets into the brain, there is no easy way out. It's effectively stuck there. A neurotoxin incompatible with life stuck in the brain of a developing infant is a horrible recipe for their lives and for society.
Dave Brat
Yeah, thank you. And give us a little more like Rosemary Jenks just did. Children's Health Defense. What are the top two or three issues that the war room posse should go? Research? You know, thanks for breaking it down and making it understandable. What should people be looking at that matters politically and where they can take action to help? Health?
Dr. Carl Jablonowski
Sure. Health in general, children's health defense. Myself and my co author, Dr. Brian Hooker just published a preprint and have an article in review that demonstrates that children of people who served in the US Military are more likely to have autism than people who did not serve. And that that is a huge revelation. It gets worse. When both parents were serving in the US Military, it gets worse. If they were a National Guard reserve or active but not deployed and active duty and deployed. And just the severity gets worse as well, going from mild, moderate to severe autism.
And there are 2 million people in the armed forces right now with a whole lot more as veterans. This is a major issue and it's a major problem. And it's incumbent upon the Department of War to really look into what could be attributing to a higher autism rate in children of the US Military, both retention and recruitment processes. You know, they're going to have to look at it really hard and come up with really good reason as to why either the Census Bureau data and our analysis is wrong or a really good reason as to why our analysis is right and hopefully take measures to stop the injuries.
Dave Brat
Yep. Hey. In one minute. Doctor, I'm an economist, so I think every problem is rooted in economics and money and power in dc. Give. Give the folks one minute on how they reach you. Your papers, your research and the disadvantages you have fighting against all the big Money.
Dr. Carl Jablonowski
Children's Health Defense.org is the website to find us. We are on.
Some social media outlets that have not banned us.
It is really difficult to do this kind of research. When I started into this.
This was not my native science. I migrated into vaccine research and when I onboarded at Children's Health Defense, they said it could be career suicide.
Just because the forces at work against the truths of vaccine injury are so great. Even, you know, even playing into the ACIP meeting. Rochelle Walensky, who is the former CDC director, published yesterday a call for universal Hep B vaccines right before the ACIP meeting. That was part of the Vaccine Integrity Project, which is supported by Cindy Walton, heiress of Walmart and the billions of dollars a year that that Walmart pulls in through their pharmacy.
Dave Brat
Yep. Yep. Hey, doctor, thank you so much for your courage. Thanks for your research and work. Thanks for being with us on the war room. I gotta jump right now. We're going to Julie Kelly for a minute quick. And then back on the other side with Julie on the pipe bomb stroke. We played a cold open earlier.
Okay, well, we. We've got Mike Lindell. Mike, you want to do 30 seconds before the other side? I hear you got some breaking news. Maybe. Welcome.
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Mike Lindell recently released audio recordings reveal conversations that happened between the Attorney General and individuals who were later implicated and in some cases convicted in the feeding our future scandal. In those recordings, the Attorney General Point of order Master speaker.
Stage a point.
Sam Faddis
Of order Mason's 124, paragraph one in debate, members must confine remarks, the questions of the body and avoid personalities. The debate here is not any individual. It is the policy and the amendment.
Stephen K. Bannon
Representative NISKA thank you, Mr. Speaker. The attorney General was asked in those recordings to use his authority to protect both businesses under investigation for wrongdoing and rather than distance himself or remain neutral to allow the legal process to unfold, he responded in those recordings, of course I'm here to help.
Rosemary Jenks
Mr. Speaker.
Stephen K. Bannon
Point of parliamentary inquiry State your point of parliamentary inquiry.
Rosemary Jenks
Mr. Speaker.
Stephen K. Bannon
There was a point of order and.
Sam Faddis
I didn't hear a ruling or any resolution of the point of order? Was there a resolution to it?
Stephen K. Bannon
I'll remind the body that there was no ruling made by the speaker as to the point of order that was just stated. Representative NISKA thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The attorney General in those recordings even urged the individuals let's go fight these people. He was offered campaign contributions during that meeting, contributions that he later accepted. The release of those audio recordings raises questions about what's going on in the Attorney General's office that go directly to the need to pass the legislation that we had previously debated. House file 20 although he has insisted that nothing came of the meeting, his office disclosure of closed investigative point of order Mason's 124 the A11 will help ensure that what happens behind closed doors in the Attorney General's office sees the light of day. We can protect people's privacy while shining a light on what the Attorney General's office is doing, who is influencing that office, whether it's those under a criminal investigation, nonprofits, corporations or billionaires with political agendas. Because Minnesotans have a right to know when their attorney general's office is working with them. Minnesotans have a right to know whether the attorney general is telling the truth. That nothing came of that meeting. That's why the A11 is so important.
Dave Brat
All right. I went to high school Minnesota. It was fairly calm and orderly back then. A bunch of Swedish Lutherans in Minneapolis and some good Catholics in Saint Paul and football and sports and all that kind of thing. So I don't know what's going on. So we brought in the expert. Mike Lindell is with us in the house. Mike, what is going on in that fine street and how do you fix it?
Mike Lindell
Well, those days are gone. I'm telling you what they're talking about. There is Keith Ellison, the attorney general Minnesota, by the way, the one that's attacking me, the Lindell Recovery Network to get it shut down, my Christian network. This guy, what they're saying there, was he in on this or not? The billion dollar corruption that's going on in Minnesota with our governor and the Somalians and the. And did you hear him say, let's go fight these people? Well, we're these people. We're the people of Minnesota.
We are the people. You guys, you also heard that yesterday it went out that we filed that I filed to with my committee to run for governor of Minnesota. That had to be filed. I'm making the final decision next Thursday, December 11th. But you know, there's just a few things.
Dave Brat
Say that again. Say that again. You went over that you went over that kind of quick. Say that again. Slow motion.
Mike Lindell
Well, yesterday there was something filed by my campaign committee that had to be filed by law in Minnesota. I am making and I'm 99%, I'm running, but I will make that. I will announce that next December or December 11th. Next Thursday we're going to have a big press conference and, and I'll be giving and telling you what I'm going to do there with. There's so many things that are so that need fixing in Minnesota. Minnesota is the trojan horse of horrible things are happening in this country. I will give someone tell someone something though. When I, if, when, when, if I run for governor, the governor then in Minnesota, the one thing you can get access to right away are the voting machines. So that's kind of right up my alley there, Dave. The you can get access to find out if they're compliant. Well, none of them, none of them are compliant. So. But, you know, all this is really sad, the stuff that's going on in Minnesota where with their governor and all these things, they've ruined Minneapolis and all these. And there's a lot of ways we can. That we can fix that. And. But anyway, and my company, MyPillow, I mean, that's right. We tell you about that is still under attack, you know, even up to this day. And we've. The Mormon policy has helped us get us through. People said he's not qualified to be governor, you know. Well, I got. The most attacked company in history is still standing, everybody. And with your help. War Room. So I'm going to put up the specials again. These are the five, our five premium products that we're putting on special. Except for the warmer body, Our sheets, our towels, our. Our mattress toppers, our pillows.
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Good. Hey, God bless you. Thanks for all you do, Mike. All right, folks, stay tuned to the War Room. Next up, we have Claire Dooley, the new filmmaker who's been making her debut on the War Room Steve over the past few weeks. She's going to be referencing the CDC meetings today. She is with the Children's Health Defense, and she does an outstanding job of making Maha intelligible for the rest of us. So thanks, Claire. And we're moving the show right over to you, Claire Newley. Take it away.
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Date: December 5, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon (with Dave Brat as guest host)
Notable Guests: Sam Faddis, Rosemary Jenks, Dr. Carl Jablonowski, Mike Lindell
This episode tackles several interconnected topics:
The show maintains its signature tone of urgent populism, deep skepticism of establishment institutions (government, media, big tech), and an explicit call to grassroots action.
[00:00–04:30]
Bannon recounts the law enforcement process behind solving a major pipe bomb case, noting a “fresh set of eyes” at the FBI led to a breakthrough.
“You have a fresh set of eyes on evidence [and] that is what has happened here... This happens all the time.”
— Stephen K. Bannon, [00:50]
Dave Brat and Rosemary Jenks discuss lingering questions:
"If they put pipe bombs outside both major parties headquarters, it kind of leads you to suspect... a certain message."
— Dave Brat, [02:32]
Concerns raised about possible distraction tactics for January 6 efforts; questions go unanswered by officials.
Memorable Quote:
“When they put it at both, it puts it in a whole different...realm. Are we talking an anarchist? What is going on here?”
— Stephen K. Bannon, [03:30]
[07:28–13:10]
Dave Brat introduces news on Macron’s warning about the global order and recent Xi-Macron meetings.
"Macron just looks to me like he's wishing upon a star that Xi is all sudden going to be a nice guy."
— Dave Brat, [07:45]
Sam Faddis (former CIA) provides analysis:
“The Indians buy a huge quantity of Russian oil...That’s where the Russians get all their money to run the war in Ukraine.”
— Sam Faddis, [08:51]
Faddis is dismissive of French utility in global security:
“The French are useless when it comes to national security and foreign policy...always complicating the situation.”
— Sam Faddis, [10:12]
On India’s true role (“de minimis”) in global power:
“...Overpopulated, desperately poor country...India is a long, long way from fulfilling its role.”
— Sam Faddis, [12:10]
[17:06–20:21]
“A lot of people want this thing to go on because they are getting filthy rich off of it.”
— Sam Faddis, [19:35]
[21:18–22:40]
“Maduro...can’t quit unless Havana tells him to quit...If you have any alternative, there’s no way you’re letting Maduro fall because you figure the gringos are coming for us next.”
— Sam Faddis, [21:18]
[26:32–34:43]
Critical Segment: Rosemary Jenks from Immigration Accountability Project forcefully frames mass immigration as a Democrat-driven system over five decades:
“The Democrats have set up this system...to pile in as many foreigners as possible...over a million legal immigrants, over a million temporary workers, and tens of millions of illegal aliens.”
— Rosemary Jenks, [26:32]
She insists the crisis is at a tipping point; focus must be on halting inflow (“Turn off the water before you start mopping!” [30:57]).
Recommends a “100% moratorium” on both legal and illegal immigration, including H1B, OPT, and chain migration programs.
“If Republicans don’t focus on this, they’re going to lose the midterms...People who are unemployed are not going to vote for them.”
— Rosemary Jenks, [31:06]
Criticizes GOP timidity:
“Republicans need to go bold...learn the issue...be bold. The American people want bold action. It’s our country. We’ve got to take it back.”
— Rosemary Jenks, [32:36]
[36:00–39:52]
Dr. Carl Jablonowski (Children’s Health Defense) reveals findings on career scientific expertise leaving CDC panels:
Concerns about adverse effects and aluminum content in infant vaccines:
“A neurotoxin incompatible with life, stuck in the brain of a developing infant is a horrible recipe for their lives and for society.”
— Dr. Carl Jablonowski, [38:18]
Shares new research linking military families to higher rates of autism in children:
“Children of people who served in the US military are more likely to have autism...It is incumbent upon the Department of War to really look into what could be attributing to a higher autism rate.”
— Dr. Carl Jablonowski, [39:52]
Highlights struggle against big money and censorship:
“...Forces at work against the truths of vaccine injury are so great...It could be career suicide.”
— Dr. Carl Jablonowski, [41:31]
[48:35–52:05]
“I’m 99% [sure] I’m running, but I will announce that next Thursday, December 11th...There’s so many things that need fixing in Minnesota. Minnesota is the Trojan Horse of horrible things in this country.”
— Mike Lindell, [49:53]
“This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we’re going medieval on these people.” [04:34]
“As sick as it is, a lot of people want this thing [Ukraine war] to go on because they are getting filthy rich off of it.” [19:35]
“If your basement’s flooding, what do you do first? Do you turn off the water or do you start mopping?” [30:57]
“It could be career suicide…The forces at work against the truths of vaccine injury are so great.” [41:31]
| Timestamp | Topic/Segment | |------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00–04:30| FBI Pipe Bomb Investigation and motives | | 07:28–13:10| India-Russia oil, China’s global strategy, and French diplomacy | | 17:06–20:21| Ukraine war: Stalemate, corruption, defense contractors | | 21:18–22:40| Venezuela’s regime, Cuban influence | | 26:32–34:43| US Immigration: Numbers crisis, H1B, solutions (Rosemary Jenks) | | 36:00–41:31| CDC criticism, vaccine skepticism, autism rates (Jablonowski) | | 48:35–52:05| MN Attorney General Scandal, Mike Lindell gubernatorial tease |
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