Bannon's War Room, Episode 4976

"What London Shows Us On Taking On The Deep State; Victory For Health Freedom"

Date: December 5, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Featured Guests: Liz Truss (former UK Prime Minister), Philip Patrick Birch, Dr. Carl Jabalovsky

Episode Overview

This episode centers on two major themes: the mounting "civilizational crisis" in the UK as exemplified by the struggle against the so-called "deep state," and recent developments in health freedom, highlighted by a shift in CDC vaccine recommendations. Steve Bannon is joined by Liz Truss, former UK Prime Minister, to discuss institutional capture, free speech, and the obstacles faced from entrenched elites and bureaucracy. The show also covers the intersection of central banking and geopolitical stability with Philip Patrick Birch, and the health sector's regulatory changes with Dr. Carl Jabalovsky. The overall tone is combative, urgent, and unapologetically critical of establishment power structures.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. London, the Deep State, and Institutional Capture

With Liz Truss (00:52–14:16, 16:56–22:57)

Civilizational Crisis in the UK

• Truss and Bannon describe the UK as being at a "watershed moment," facing a crisis of assimilation, social cohesion, and declining liberties due to mass migration and bureaucratic overreach.
• Bannon: "We're kind of not so sure who's actually going to be in charge of Western Christendom in maybe 30 years." (01:54)

Suppression of Free Speech and Media Bias

• Truss claims her new US-broadcast show is a reaction to mainstream media’s suppression of issues like the grooming gangs, illegal migration, and lawfare against dissenters.
• Truss: "Free speech is under huge threat in the UK... people jailed for posting on X, arrested at their own homes... They want to cover up what is happening in our country." (03:38)

Definition and Mechanisms of the 'Deep State'

• Truss details how authority has shifted from Parliament and elected officials to unelected bureaucrats in the central bank, judiciary, and police.
• Key laws (in her view, damaging): Human Rights Act, Climate Change Act, Equality Act — all contributing to the erosion of ancient British liberties.
• Truss: "The deep state targeted me... Off the record briefings, silence on the part of the mainstream media... underhand dealings. I didn't understand how much they were prepared to suppress the narrative." (07:57, 09:13)

Central Banking and the Globalist Agenda

• She accuses the Bank of England and Treasury of aligning with "the Davos globalist agenda" and stripping Parliament and the PM of real power.
• Truss: "The central bank and the treasury... 100% signed up to the Davos globalist agenda. They don't believe in nation states. They want to be part of a global elite." (09:51)

Prospect of Reform

• The solution, according to Truss, requires a parliamentary majority willing to 'walk through fire'—to repeal post-Blair laws, overtake bureaucratic leadership, and restore powers to elected officials.
• She reflects this as a parallel struggle to the US President's executive power battles.
• Truss: "Unless you get rid of these laws, unless you restore the executive power in Britain, nothing will change." (17:36)

Media as a Hurdle to Change

• Truss frames media suppression (notably by the BBC) as a structural factor perpetuating crisis, noting she's leveraging alternative platforms (X, YouTube, Rumble) to reach the public.

Notable Quotes

• Truss: "We're in the end game. I call it the dark Blair period... The average Brit is now poorer than the average person in Mississippi, which is the poorest US state." (19:33)
• Truss: "Politics is often downstream of the media and we have a huge problem with the media in Britain." (19:33)
• Truss: "There are many occasions when it looked like it was all over, but people kept fighting and we have to fight. And this is an existential battle for our country. So I'm prepared to do whatever it takes." (22:14)

2. Central Banks, Geopolitics, and Financial Stability

With Philip Patrick Birch (38:10–46:12)

Central Banks as the Deep State

• Birch and Bannon discuss the outsized and unelected power of central banks, particularly the ECB and Bank of England, as institutions more powerful than revolving governments.
• Birch: "The ECB will step in and tell elected governments what is allowed and what isn't. That for me is real power, a bureaucracy that nobody voted for, steering the continent towards policies that voters never approve." (39:08)

Weaponized Finance and De-Dollarization

• Current sanctions on Russia and seizure of assets are characterized as undermining global trust in the western banking system.
• Birch: "Your money isn't safe in the Western financial system... You cannot run a reserve currency system on fear. It's run on trust, predictability, the rule of law. And the west is torching all three." (41:55)
• The weaponization of finance via central banking pressures countries towards gold and "blocks, not cooperation," pointing toward rising prospects for global conflict.

Gold as a Hedge

• Emphasizing record gold buying by central banks as a reaction to geopolitics and asset seizures.
• Birch: "Gold doesn't care which side is sanctioning or seizing. It cares that geopolitical risk is leaking into the financial system." (43:29)

3. Victory for Health Freedom: CDC Shifts on Hepatitis B Vaccine for Newborns

With Dr. Carl Jabalovsky (46:48–51:15)

New CDC/ACIP Guidance

• CDC no longer recommends automatic Hep B vaccination for all U.S. newborns unless the mother is Hep B-positive.
• Dr. Jabalovsky: "It makes perfect sense. Logically, you don't need the intervention if there is no risk from it." (47:20)

Historical Context and Industry Critique

• Past rationale: adults at risk weren't getting vaccinated, so the system targeted newborns. Some speculate this policy was financially motivated or intended to induce parental compliance with future child vaccinations.
• Dr. Jabalovsky: "Hepatitis B is an adult disease... there was a 1991 New York Times article that actually said vaccinate the children because the adults won't get it... But it is ultimately an enormous moneymaker." (48:04)

Mainstream Pushback

• The mainstream media is characterized as attacking the decision, calling the new ACIP panel “anti-vax nutcases.”
• Dr. Jabalovsky counters that ACIP is advisory only and criticizes the standard of evidence previously used for these recommendations.

Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:02–03:38: Bannon’s opening monologue, setting the stage for civilizational crisis in the West
• 03:38–14:16: Liz Truss on media suppression, deep state definition, and the fight for executive power
• 16:56–22:57: Truss on Reform Party, need for deep reform, media’s role, and her new show's aims
• 38:10–46:12: Philip Patrick Birch on central banking as the real ‘deep state’ and the global monetary system’s instability
• 46:48–51:15: Dr. Carl Jabalovsky on CDC’s Hep B vaccine change and industry motivations

Notable Quotes

• Bannon (on the West’s future):
  "We're kind of not so sure who's actually going to be in charge of Western Christendom in maybe 30 years." (01:54)

• Truss (on institutional capture):
  "What has happened is the whole basis of ancient British liberties has been completely undermined by legal change in Britain and by the capture of our institutions." (06:52)

• Truss (on pushing back):
  "Those people will have to walk through fire because they'll be accused of abolishing democracy... but it is exactly the same thing that's happened." (12:53)

• Birch (on central bank power):
  "You see governments change consistently, but the ECB never does. When a crisis hits... the ECB will step in and tell elected governments what is allowed and what isn't." (39:08)

• Birch (on asset seizure):
  "Every country... sees the same message, your money isn't safe in the Western financial system." (41:55)

• Dr. Jabalovsky (on vaccine guidance):
  "Logically, you don't need the intervention if there is no risk from it." (47:20)

Memorable Moments

• Truss compares Keir Starmer’s unpopularity to King John before Magna Carta. (18:51)
• Bannon frames the struggle for government accountability in the UK as an existential fight, paralleling MAGA’s mission in the US. (22:14)
• Birch draws a direct line between weaponizing banking systems and historic increases in geopolitical risk—and why gold matters. (41:55–43:29)
• Dr. Jabalovsky calls the prior universal newborn Hep B recommendation a "slippery slope" for parental compliance and a moneymaker for pharma. (48:04)

Summary for New Listeners

This episode offers a wide-scope analysis of the deep structural crises faced by Western institutions, with special focus on the UK’s standoff between elected government and entrenched bureaucracies. The discussion with Liz Truss exposes what she sees as near-irredeemable institutional capture by unelected, globally oriented elites. Central to the episode is the argument that real reform will require sweeping legislative and personnel overhaul—and a counter-culture media strategy.

The episode also delivers a stark warning regarding central banks’ dominance and the west’s precarious financial future, and it spotlights a "victory" in the long-running battle over health mandates, as the CDC rolls back a blanket vaccine recommendation for newborns. Throughout, the tone is highly combative, situationally urgent, and demonstrative of Bannon’s "war room" ethos.