Episode 4989: The Fight For Indiana Against The RINOS And Republican Establishment

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room, Episode 4989

“The Fight For Indiana Against The RINOS And Republican Establishment”

Date: December 11, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guests/Contributors: John Fredericks, Natalie Dominguez

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Overview

This episode focuses on the internal battle within the Republican Party—particularly the fight in Indiana's State Senate between America First/MAGA conservatives and the established, more moderate Republican leadership (often referred to as “RINOs”—Republicans In Name Only). Bannon and guests dissect the ongoing redistricting vote in Indiana, emphasizing how key victories could set momentum for conservative movements nationwide, influencing midterm outcomes and the future of the MAGA agenda. The show also spends significant time critiquing immigration enforcement, highlighting the tension around legal, illegal, and sanctuary city dynamics, and closes with broader comments about challenges facing the Trump movement, economic policy, and GOP infighting.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Immigration Enforcement and Sanctuary Cities

[00:00–04:46]

• The episode opens with discussion and critical coverage of a recent ICE raid in Burnsville, MN, referencing a viral surveillance video.
• Focus: The fear and rights of immigrant communities under immigration enforcement, with guest journalists and politicians commenting.
• Quotes:
  • “You shouldn't be rolling around in unmarked vans. People have the right to know who's following them.” – John Fredericks [00:34]
  • “You have all these rights, so make sure you're showing up and letting your neighbors know that they have rights.” – Steve Bannon [01:04]
• The conversation pivots to commentary on multiculturalism, American values, and accusations that current immigration enforcement has “white nationalist” underpinnings.
• Theme: Tension between national security, legal system consistency, and the foundational ideals of the nation.
• Fact-checking and myth-busting on immigrant criminality:
  • Citing Cato Institute research: “Those who are born in America commit crimes at a higher percentage than immigrants. End of story. Check any study. That's the reality.” – John Fredericks [04:35]

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2. Deregulation and Financial Policy Shift

[05:16–06:54]

• Bannon briefly reports on a leaked letter from Treasury Secretary Scott Besson outlining plans to loosen financial regulation, create an AI working group, and shift focus toward economic growth over oversight.
• Analysis:
  • Frame this as another example of a deregulatory “Trump administration” approach—connecting Wall Street, AI investments, and the FSOC’s changing mission from post-crisis stability to promoting resilience through less regulation.

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3. “Primal Scream of a Dying Regime” & Save the Country Call

[06:54–07:44]

• Bannon delivers a rallying call for MAGA listeners, emphasizing that change comes from the grassroots (“the people have had a belly full of it”), criticizing mainstream media, and framing the current struggle as a historic moment of resistance.
• Quote:
  • “If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.” – Steve Bannon [07:28]

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4. Immigration, Citizenship, and National Identity Rhetoric

[07:52–10:28]

• Following up on the immigration debate, Bannon asserts explicitly anti-immigrant sentiment:
  • “Diversity is our strength. That’s absolutely incorrect. Our strength is American citizens... All of these people making excuses, they've been here for six months and they don't have a traffic ticket, doesn't wash. They're all going home... If they don't go home, you don't have a country.” – Steve Bannon [07:54/09:01]
• He claims the Democrats orchestrated a mass invasion: “the Democratic Party is as close to a terrorist organization as you can get.” [09:35]
• Blames immigrants for systemic failures in education, healthcare, and public order.

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5. Redistricting and the “Dog Fight” in Indiana

[12:40–43:09] Main Segment

a. Momentum, GOP Infighting, and Midterm Strategy

• Bannon and Fredericks outline why the Indiana redistricting vote is so pivotal: it’s a test of MAGA strength vs. establishment control at the state level, with national ramifications.
• Indiana context:
  • 40 out of 50 state senators are Republican; 26 votes needed for the redistricting plan.
  • Fredericks details the struggle to get to 23 solid YES votes—“warriors” vs. “cowardly” on-the-fence senators (e.g., Ryan Mishler absent for a basketball tournament) [24:29–28:17].
  • GOP leadership threatened dissenters with loss of committee assignments, promising to shield them from primary challenges.
• Quote:
  • “If you're not a yes vote, you get turfed out. The money that we're going to spend here is going to knock your socks up. You can't go on where you’ve got Republicans that are not standing up to save the country.” – John Fredericks [27:33]

b. Importance of State-level Victory & National Domino Effect

• “If we win this fight... it’s going to give [other states] the courage, the backbone, the spine in order to go forward and gain more seats for us. So this is not two; this is about 20 seats it’s going to mean for us why this vote is so critical.” – John Fredericks [32:12]
• Bannon emphasizes the existential stakes:
  • Republican establishment waits for MAGA to disappear once Trump is gone.
  • “This is a fight against the Republican establishment. Democrats are unified... The Republican establishment hates Trump as much as the Democrats do.” [39:15]
• Memorable Moment: Fredericks describes some senators promising to be only “the 27th vote” if others have committed first, highlighting endemic political cowardice [32:40].

c. Call to Action

• Both urge listeners to call state senators directly and support local activism for the Indiana vote, presenting momentum as the only path to breaking RINO resistance nationwide.
• “You want a Republican majority, we gotta get on the phone. We can win this vote. We can get to 26. And I tell you what Mike is going to do. As soon as that vote hits 26, within a nanosecond, he is cutting off that vote and hitting the button. This thing is going to pass.” – John Fredericks [37:56]

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6. GOP Establishment Critique and Lessons from Electoral History

[14:05–16:29, 12:40–39:15]

• Bannon reflects on failed Republican campaigns in Miami, Georgia, Virginia, New Jersey, and California.
• He ties establishment losses to lack of “Trump energy” and failure to embrace MAGA populism.
• “It is winnable, but it takes intense focus and a roll of the sleeves. Stick to itiveness and hard work. You're not going to wish this one away.” [14:30]
• “If it was not for you, there would be no Trump... You saved the country. Not the Broligarchs, not the hangers on, not the Sunshine Patriots and summer soldiers that Tom Paine warned us about at the beginning of the fricking republic.” – Steve Bannon [23:48]

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7. International Policy, Threats, and “Hemispheric Defense”

[41:40–43:12]

• Bannon laments NATO allies labeling the US a “threat,” uses WWII history to question current alliances, and pivots to Trump's “Monroe Doctrine 2.0” strategy and the importance of hemispheric defense. [41:40–43:12]
• Reemphasizes survival of the constitutional republic depends on the “toughest of the tough.”

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------|---------| | 00:34 | “You shouldn't be rolling around in unmarked vans. People have the right to know who's following them.” | John Fredericks | | 04:35 | “Those who are born in America commit crimes at a higher percentage than immigrants. End of story. Check any study.” | John Fredericks | | 07:28 | “If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.” | Steve Bannon | | 09:00 | “They’re all going home... If they're not sent home or they're not forced out... you don't have a country.” | Steve Bannon | | 24:29 | “Welcome to the second storming of the Normandy beach to save America. It's called Indianapolis.” | John Fredericks | | 27:33 | “If you're not a yes vote, you get turfed out... You can't go on where you’ve got Republicans that are not standing up to save the country.” | John Fredericks | | 32:12 | “If we win this fight... this is about 20 seats it’s going to mean for us why this vote is so critical.” | John Fredericks | | 37:06 | “The Republican establishment think that Trump’s a passing storm and that the MAGA movement will dissipate after Trump. That's what this is all about.” | Steve Bannon | | 39:15 | “This is a fight against the Republican establishment. Do you think that Democrats would ever have this? No. They're very unified and psychologically obsessed with the destruction of Donald Trump.” | Steve Bannon |

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00–04:46: Immigration enforcement raid—video and guest reactions.
• 05:16–06:54: Treasury/FSOC deregulation news analysis.
• 07:52–10:28: Bannon’s anti-immigration argument; accusation of Democrats as orchestrators of “invasion.”
• 12:40–14:30: GOP infighting and failed campaign retrospectives.
• 24:29–28:17: Indiana Senate vote breakdown; absent senator and pressure from leadership.
• 32:12–38:27: Stakes of state-level victories; national momentum; calls to action.
• 39:15–41:40: Critique of GOP establishment unity vs. MAGA agenda.
• 41:40–43:12: Discussion of NATO, hemispheric defense, and national security doctrine.

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Tone and Language

• Assertive, urgent, and combative.
• Heavy use of war metaphors (“dog fight,” “second storming of Normandy,” “battle for the republic”).
• Clear division between “establishment” and “MAGA patriots.”
• Frequent appeals to audience agency and grassroots activism.

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Summary for Non-Listeners

This episode of Bannon's War Room is a high-energy rally for MAGA supporters, framing the Indiana Senate redistricting vote as a make-or-break moment for the movement. Bannon, John Fredericks, and Natalie Dominguez weave together local politics, national strategy, and philosophical arguments about national identity, immigration, and institutional accountability. The episode pit establishment (RINO) Republicans against grassroots activists, urging listeners to take action, arguing that victory in Indiana could cascade into systemic change, and warning that failure will embolden both establishment Republicans and Democrats. Loaded with memorable lines and political intensity, it's an audio battle cry for the populist right.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

Shields up and guns drawn.

[Natalie Dominguez]

Ring surveillance video shows more than a dozen armed federal agents descending on a.

[Steve Bannon]

Burnsville home on Saturday.

[Natalie Dominguez]

A woman who lives there tells Fox 9 multiple Latino people who rent rooms there were arrested by ICE after being.

[Steve Bannon]

Followed home from the store. A portion of the video shows one.

[Natalie Dominguez]

Man being taken down in the driveway and another woman running inside to her child. We're told the four people taken into custody are now being held in immigration.

[Steve Bannon]

Facilities out of state.

[Natalie Dominguez]

That includes the parents of a seven year old boy.

[John Fredericks]

You shouldn't be rolling around in unmarked vans.

[Steve Bannon]

People have the right to know who's following them. And you can see there's fear in the people that are getting out of.

[John Fredericks]

The car in that video.

[Natalie Dominguez]

Former state senator and Lakeville Mayor Matt.

[Steve Bannon]

Little is running to represent this district in Congress. He said he's troubled by what he.

[Natalie Dominguez]

Saw in the video and wants people to know their rights.

[Steve Bannon]

They certainly have a right to a hearing. They certainly have a right to a lawyer. They have a right to contact know.

[John Fredericks]

People in their lives that could help them out. You have all these rights, so make sure you're showing up and letting your.

[Steve Bannon]

Neighbors know that they have rights.

[John Fredericks]

And what I'm saying is like these 19 countries, right? Mostly black and brown people.

[Natalie Dominguez]

Right.

[Steve Bannon]

My parents are from Sierra Leone.

[John Fredericks]

I probably wouldn't be here. They wouldn't have been able to come. Right. And I think what it needs to be put into perspective is that this.

[Steve Bannon]

Is part of a disdain for what America makes.

[John Fredericks]

America actually great.

[Steve Bannon]

Right.

[John Fredericks]

Our multicultural system. It's about New York City is the most prosperous city on earth because of.

[Steve Bannon]

Our diversity, not in spite of it.

[John Fredericks]

Right. And I think this is part of that whole thing. Like I hope they don't implement this. I hope there's enough backlash and just.

[Steve Bannon]

The reporting on it on the social media scanning.

[John Fredericks]

But I think overall it's just this, this JD Vance Munich speech mentality where about this blood and soil about the people you know being born here, this, this white nationalism that I think is at the core of all of these actions.

[Steve Bannon]

Are you prepared?

[John Fredericks]

Gavin Newsom told me he was prepared to be arrested.

[Steve Bannon]

Tom Holman threatened.

[John Fredericks]

Anybody that stands in the way.

[Steve Bannon]

Could be you've been arrested before. Standing up for people's rights. J.D. pritzker told me that Donald Trump should come and get me. You prepared to be arrested by the federal government if you stand up to their immigration enforcement? I'm prepared for any consequence that comes for standing up for New Yorkers because that's my job.

[John Fredericks]

That's what I ran to do. And I think that it's time that New Yorkers look at City hall, it's right here, and see a reflection of their struggles, as opposed to a reflection of the scandal that has engulfed so.

[Steve Bannon]

Much of our politics. I've also heard you say that no one is above the law and anyone.

[John Fredericks]

Can be held accountable.

[Steve Bannon]

And that goes for the President states, and it also goes for ICE agents. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but is there a scenario in which the nypd, under you, could arrest ICE agents on the streets of New York for their behavior towards immigrants?

[John Fredericks]

My focus is for the NYPD to not be assisting ICE in their immigration enforcement and to actually be following the.

[Steve Bannon]

Policies of sanctuary city law. And I do believe, however, that for.

[John Fredericks]

The law to have meaning, there has to be accountability for all of us.

[Steve Bannon]

And that is something that is necessary to speak about, to talk about, to act on, no matter who we're referring to. So many are losing faith in politics in this moment because they're seeing inconsistency take place at every different facet of our society. So, in other words, there is a circumstance in which if an ICE agent violates someone's rights here in New York City, they could be arrested by the police department. I think if an ICE agent is breaking the law, then that is a law that they should be held accountable to. Keep foreign students out. He's trying to keep foreigners out, period. He's decimating the workforce in a way that will make inflation go up in terms of the workforce he's decimating. And now he's saying, we're going to give you some kind of bizarre test to make sure you haven't put anything on social media we don't like.

[Natalie Dominguez]

America is isolating itself from its values.

[Steve Bannon]

And the dreams that people had about.

[Natalie Dominguez]

Our country have become a nightmare. And that makes me terribly sad.

[John Fredericks]

There's always this scare tactic where they're coming in with leprosy. The caravans are coming up, they've got leprosy, they're going to come into America, your skin's going to fall off. And then, of course, there is always the suggestion that they're going to come here and they're going to commit more crimes than people who were born here.

[Steve Bannon]

That's.

[John Fredericks]

That's just a lie, and they know that's a lie. Cato Institute has been, you know, serving up studies about this and everybody else studies about this for years. It's not a close call.

[Steve Bannon]

Native Americans, people who were born in.

[John Fredericks]

America, listen for those who have ears to hear. Listen.

[Steve Bannon]

Those who are born in America commit.

[John Fredericks]

Crimes at a higher percentage than immigrants. End of story. Check any study. That's the reality.

[Steve Bannon]

You will be held accountable for your actions. You will be held accountable for your action.

NBC has obtained exclusively the contents of a letter written by Treasury Secretary Scott Besson proposing a pretty radical rethink of how the government will promote financial stability and prevent systemic risk rather than additional regulation and oversight. Besant's FSOC letter, that's the Financial Stability Oversight Council, argues greater financial stability can be achieved by reducing regulation and promoting economic growth. The letter, to be released later today in conjunction with an FSOC meeting, says the council will work with and support member agencies in considering whether aspects of the U.S. financial regulatory framework impose undue burdens and negatively impact economic growth, thereby undermining financial stability. FSOC formed in 2010 in the wake of the great financial cris. It was designed to monitor and address severe systemic risk. It's chaired by the Treasury Secretary, but it includes also the Fed chair and leading federal and some state financial regulators. FSOC has generally worked to tighten regulations and oversight of financial institutions. Besson says that monitoring of systemic risk it's going to continue, but he lays out a blueprint that looks more likely to loosen regulation than to tighten it. Besson is also forming a new AI working group to, quote, explore opportunities for AI to promote the resilience of the financial system, while also monitoring for potential risk of financial stability that might be posed by the adoption of AI. His plan, of course, lines up with the Trump administration's emphasis on deregulation that's already helped the financial system or financial companies. But it also looks like a sharp pivot from the original intent of epsoc, aimed at the too big to fail problem and how previous administrations have conceived of its mission.

This is the primal screen of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that.

[John Fredericks]

But you're not going to stop it.

[Steve Bannon]

It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room Here's Your host, Stephen K. Ban.

It's Thursday the 11th of December, year of our Lord 2025. Welcome to the morning edition of the War Room. If you haven't noticed.

We'Re at war in this country to make sure that we repel the 15 to 20 million illegal alien invaders that came in on Biden's watch, that were brought in on Biden's watch in a highly sophisticated, coordinated effort. And you still have the Democrats beating the drum of diversity is our strength. That's absolutely incorrect. Our strength is American citizens. The broad shoulders of American citizens in this constitutional republic and the folks that got us here and the giants on, on the shoulders of which we, we stand today. And all of these people making the excuses that, oh gosh, they've been here for six months and they don't have a traffic ticket, doesn't wash. They're all going home if you don't. If they don't go home, if they're not sent home or they're not forced out of here, you don't have a country because it's going to happen over and over and over again. That's what they want. And the problem here is not just the illegal alien invaders, it's the phony legal immigration system we have. All of which is, is targeted American citizens and American workers to make your life harder, to drive your wages down, to make it unduly competitive. Not that you don't mind competition, but you don't need to invite the world in to compete with you and essentially to. In your home, in your home country, which you sacrificed and people that came before you and your family have sacrificed so much for. This is outrageous. Every place that ICE goes to start the deportations and now it's in Minneapolis. There's a massive fight these sanctuary. The business model of the radical Democratic Party, which is not even, I believe the Democratic Party is as close to a terrorist organization as you can get. And if we start doing the real, the real investigations of this, they will be designated a terrorist organization. What they've done to the United States, they plotted more so even than Muslim Brotherhood and care, right? And all these Islamic radical terrorist organizations which are bad enough and we got to get to the bottom of and get them out of the country. These people organized an invasion of our country. We got 15 to 20 man illegal alien invaders here that have destroyed the country, destroyed the economy, have destroyed the education system, particularly in inner cities for folks, destroyed the education system, the health care system, law and order, sanitation. And they specifically brought in people that would not that would not acclimate to our culture and our society and could not be assimilated, did not want to be assimilated. We're going to be arrogant about how they were not assimilated.

And you can sit there, you need to see what you see. Look in New York City, New York City because of foreign born individuals who, who knows how they got here and who knows what their status is. You have a Ugandan Marxist jihadist as mayor. And President Trump was talking about Sadiq Khan yesterday. Siddiqan. President Trump, Sidikon is terrible and turned London into an awful place. But Mandami is, is Siddi Khan on steroids and he's now the mayor elect. If we don't denaturalize him, which we could of New York City. And let me pivot back to what needs to be done. More action, tougher action, more urgent action. Action, action, action. The midterms, all this ringing of the hands. And yes, it looks tough. Polling's not great, but big deal. We've had we not had in the history of this movement, long odds have we not had in the history of this movement, a couple of cloudy days have we had in the history of this movement, times when it looked like it was tough. Do you guys Remember January of 2021 and in February 2021, in March of 2021 and 22 and 23? You remember the day that President Trump, what, they found him guilty with 35 felonies gonna sentence him to jail. Do you remember all that? That the odds look long? Was it the Santas crowd laughing at you? Was Fox News laughing at you with the Democrats? They had the director's chairs up there with Rachel Maddow and all that crowd up there in front of New York City, they fronted Jack Smith when they were bringing people in, laughing in your face. Did odds not look long then? Yes, they did. They looked impossibly long. That's what nobody, the Europeans say it today. Nobody thought Trump was coming back. That's what they treated Trump like dirt. That's why they treated MAGA like dirt. They never, ever envisioned coming back, winning the House, the Senate, changing the judiciary, particularly the Supreme Court, and Trump returning as commander in chief with expanded Article 2 powers. Because the years in the wilderness, everybody pulled together, thought this thing through and said, here's how we're going to have days of thunder when we return. We're going to flood the zone.

So we've hit a speed bump. And I'm the first to say you need to focus on the 2026 midterms. And it looks grim, particularly if you look at the lack of energy and the lack of focus and the lack, quite frankly, of purpose of the traditional Republican Party, which still globs on to power. The Miami situation shouldn't get you all. She had 13,000 votes. Nobody voted in it. They had 30 candidates run. The ones you should focus on and should be concerned is the race in New Jersey. We had a traditional Republican gubernatorial candidate that didn't want Trump, never had Trump involved, and ran on tax cuts and limited government. You saw how that worked out, Mikey. Sheryl crushed him and she took over the energy issue, which is ours. The Democrats bring on this energy crisis with this madness about net zero carbon. Did you see in Virginia? Glenn Youngkin has destroyed the Republican Party. It'll take you a generation, a generation to rebuild it. How's that working out? The Rubenstein, the Rubenstein Youngkin.

Group. Party in the Commonwealth. Done, done and dusted in California. Let's not get Trump involved. Let's, let's run on good government. Yeah, good government's really a rallying cry now. Schwarzenegger and.

McCarthy.

Let's run on good government. That good 30 point blowout down in Georgia. The one to look at is Georgia. Another feckless, hapless Republican Party down there. No energy. Where Trump wins. I think that, that, that, that state House race, that district by, I don't know, 20 points, we lose the other night.

This is doable, it is winnable, but it takes intense focus and a roll of the sleeves. Stick to itiveness and hard work. You're not going to wish this one away. We're not going to talk ourselves into a victory. You're going to have to work and we're going to go to Indianapolis. We got work to do today. It's a maximalist strategy. The old gop, the Mitch Daniels, Mike Pence stands in front of us and victory next. There's a lot of politicians that should be getting coal in their stockings for Christmas. But Birch Gold thinks, as a smart planner, you deserve silver. That's why for every $5,000 you purchase between now and December 22nd, Birchgold will send you an ounce of silver free. Remember, silver is up over 60% this year and over $60 an ounce. You see, smart people diversify and have a hedge. That's why I encourage you to buy gold from Birch Gold. With the rate cuts from the Fed in 2026, the dollar will be worth less. And what happens if the AI bubble burst? Diversify. Let Birch Gold Group help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA and physical gold. Let me repeat that. Physical gold. And for every $5,000 you buy, you'll get an ounce of silver for your stocking or for your kids. What a great way to teach them about saving smartly. Just text my name, Bannon B A N N o n to 989-898 to claim your eligibility for this offer. Again, text Bannon Bannon to the number 989-898 today. Because Birchgold's free silver with qualifying purchase promotion ends the 22nd of December of this year. Make sure you text Bannon 298-9898. Do it today.

[Natalie Dominguez]

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Why do we do this show? The show, the predicate of the show is Your agency.

To save this country, to turn this country around, it is on your shoulders. Let me be blunt. You know that particularly the folks have been here for, I don't know, since we started this in 2019.

Your agency is the difference, because the show is set up to empower you with information and access.

And, you know, we don't chase most of the stories other people chase, that's fine. There are other people that do other things a thousand times better than we would do. This is what we do and we do it the best.

Nobody gets ahead of stories and looks downrange better than the show. Full stop from the beginning. John Fredericks here. We're going to talk about Indianapolis, but Fredericks, we started the show when I used to come on John Frederick's radio show once a week and I would talk and, you know, then John would ask me and I said, you know, Nancy Pelosi just gave this thing. This was in September, October of 2019, September. I said, Nancy Pelosi UN. She's setting up a committee in the House to look at impeachment. And they're going to have a committee. It's going to be complete gun deck. They're going to impeach Trump by Thanksgiving, send it to the Senate. He won't be removed, but there'll be a trial in the Senate either right before Christmas or right after Christmas. And John's phones blew up and they said, hey, we love Steve, he's great, but man, he is so far off base. And so John Frederick is very close to the White House. He calls the White House, say, hey, Bannon was on Today saying this, and it said, no fake news, totally fake news, not happening. And John calls me, goes, hey, they're saying it's fake news. I go, as sure as the turning of the earth when Nancy Pelosi lays out something like that at the United nations when she's up there for the world to see. And that's why she chose that venue. This is rolling. And so a couple of days later, on a Sunday, I pulled John away from his watching the Titans and said, hey, can we start a short run show tomorrow? And he says, sure, what do you want to call it? He says, I'll find a slot, we'll slide you in. How about ten o' clock in the morning? I go, fine. And I said, what about war room impeachment? He goes, deal. From impeachment to pandemic to the election, to the stealing of the election.

To Trump's years in the wilderness, maga's years in the wilderness to the return of the first of all, the victory in 2022, the change of McCarthy in the house, you know, calling the shots on the Ukraine, war on all of it, over and over and over again, leading up to the massive greatest comeback in political history in 2024. We've always been ahead of the curve to empower you, and you have performed magnificently. You've answered every call. So we have another call. That call is 2026. You understand? The Trump revolution will be shut down. Now, is the Trump revolution hitting on all cylinders? It's hitting on some cylinders.

[John Fredericks]

Good.

[Steve Bannon]

It's a little off track on some, but that's okay. That's just human nature. It's a process. Trust the process. We're going to grind this through. The first thing we have to do in setting a predicate for victory is we have to win these redistrictings. Remember, Alex De Grasse came here with the theory back in 2021. Those eight or 10 seats net we picked up gave us the majority in 2022. You know who understood that? A young guy named Matt Gaetz. And he actually said, hey, it's better if we don't win 22 to 25 if we just pick up these new districts, because if you have under 10, you have more leverage over the rhinos in the House. And you know who was right? A young guy named Matt Gaetz. So here we are today, and all of a sudden, you know, you know, people are sitting there on Fox. They're crying in their town, throwing in their towel. It's over. It's done. Woe is me. The sky is falling. Is it tough? Hell, yeah, it's tough. When you're trying to take a nation back that's been basically stolen by globalist, a secularist, atheistic globalist for 40 or 50 years, and they convinced you to support the Republican Party, Right? Which was just going along as the junior partner that they were, the Washington generals to the globalist Harlem Globetrotters. So to go along with controlled opposition, which every one of you know, and searching through your heart, how did I let that happen? Right? Myself included and everybody I know, this is a new day. That is why Donald Trump's providential. He stepped in and saved the country. Is he perfect? He ain't perfect. Have you noticed that? He's not perfect. It's rising above his imperfections. That is his greatness.

And we're in a fight now, folks. We're in a dog fight. I didn't say it was going to be easy to hold the house. It's not number one how feckless they are. It's the Duma. They go out of their way to do stupid things or not to do anything at all. I got that. It also doesn't matter. There is no substitute for victory. What did we say in 22? There's no substitute for victory. These are the ones you have to win. These are gating events for everything else. And it's going to be a slog and sometimes it's not going to be the sexy stuff other people cover. I got that. I understand that. And that's just reality. A lot of this is just going to be grind and you're going to be grind. But you've saved the country. You individually look in the mirror today. Look at you. You saved the country. If it was not for you, there would be no Trump. If it was not for you, there wouldn't be any Trump victories. You saved the country. Not the Broligarchs, not the hangers on.

Not the. Not the Sunshine Patriots and summer soldiers that Tom Paine warned us about at the beginning of the fricking republic. You think they didn't see it? The exact same thing. It's happened again and that's what we have to win.

Now. The irony of it. Let's go to Indianapolis, Indiana, the heartland of this country. One of the greatest states in this country where folks, they actually have a brain, a brand. Hoosiers, right? You don't get any better than that. And we're in a dog fight in Indianapolis today. John Fredericks, tell me what's going on, brother, because the games are getting pretty brutal there, sir.

[John Fredericks]

Welcome to the second storming of the Normandy beach to save America. It's called Indianapolis. We're right outside the Capitol in the Trump bus. Unbelievable turn of events over the last 24 hours. Let me bottom line this for Everybody. We have 40 state senators that are Republican. 40 out of 50. We need 26 votes. We had 23, now we've got 22. I'll explain that in a minute. This is why 23 is the critical first number. We have two Republican state senators who have told our courageous whip whipping the yes votes. If you can show me 23 today, the vote's gonna be today. Somewhere around 1. 32. 30. Show me 23 on the board. You've got me and you've got the other guy. You got two votes. So 23 gets you 25. You get to 25, you got a hell of a shot to get to 26. But we've only got 22. Why? Well, one of our yes votes, a state senator by the name of Ryan Mishler. A yes vote. Solid yes. Well, he leaves Wednesday night. He says, sorry, can't make the vote. Got my son playing in a basketball tournament, going to Florida. Got a second home there. See ya. Hope things work out. So he's in Florida, so he's not voting. So that gets us to 22, which means now we got to get to 23 to get to 25 and 26. So number one, look, I have followed my son Joseph all over the country since he's 10 years old. I have missed very few tournaments, very few games. I fly to the road games all over the country. I get it, okay? But you got to save America. What do you mean you're going to Florida? I've called on Joe Grutters to get off Fox News, get off Fox and Friends, whatever he's doing today. Chairman of the Republican Party. Get off the tv, get on the phone, charter a flight from the fbo, wherever he lives in Florida to Indianapolis, get him up here, pay for the flight with your own, with the RNC money. Put the card in, vote yes, put him on a plane, go back, Merry Christmas. Do something. We're not doing anything. We gotta get 23 to get 25. Once we get to 25, then we gotta get to 26. Now there's several people that are on the fence. What's going on here is the leader, the Senate Pro Tem of the Indiana, of the Indiana Republican Senate. Rod Bray is now twisting. Here's what he's saying. I'm gonna strip you of committee. You're not gonna be involved in anything. And don't worry, if the MAGA people primary you, I'm gonna raise money, I'm gonna save your seat. So we're fighting our own people to get to 26. And it's going to be today at 1:30 or 2:00 clock or 2:30. I'm going to be right there. I already see the buses outside. Why are there buses outside? My bus is outside. Why are the, why are these five buses out there? Oh, those are the protesters. They're busing in from God knows where, paying them to eat, right? Afl, cio, Planned Parenthood, all these organizations, they bust in, the paid protesters, they're going to fill up their rotunda with another 400 people to our six, right? So that's the bottom line is we got a guy that doesn't show. We got other, other Republicans that are scared to death. And look, I got a News flash, okay, this is not Turning Point usa. This is MAGA, Inc. Chris, Lac these guys. Steve, if you're not a yes vote, you get turfed out. The money that we're going to spend here is going to knock your socks up. You cannot go on this way. You can't go on where? You've got Republicans that are not standing up to save the country. We got to get this guy.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on one second. I'm going to hold you through the break. The fight today is in Indiana. Back in a moment.

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John Fredericks, the fight today is here. We have to win this. And here's what we have to win it, folks. John Fredericks knows this better than anybody. It's about momentum. It's like in football. You have to move the chains here. We're sending a signal to the rest of the rhino deadbeats in these other states and there's lots of them that don't want to get off their ass. And here's why. The Republican establishment has come to the conclusion that they're going to wait Trump out. They don't think maga's that strong. They think as soon as they get Trump removed, you're just going to fritter away and you're going to go back and be donating to them and go back to the same neoliberal, neocon, globalist policies that have gotten us in the situation we are and allow the color revolution in this country to roll. John Fredericks, Lots of games are being played up there. How can we thwart this? We're burning daylight right now, sir.

[John Fredericks]

We gotta get on the phones, we gotta call these state senators. Call every single one of them. 8003-8294-6780-0382-9467. But here's the bottom line. This is not about two votes. I keep saying this. Two is going to get you 20 say, oh, it's only two votes in Indiana. It's not going to make that much of a difference. Yes, it is. Because if we win this fight, because when we came in, you talked about earlier being an underdog. I got here a week ago Tuesday, they told me we had about a 15 or 20% chance of winning this thing. Now it's 50, 50. So, yeah, we're an underdog. Yeah, we gotta fight back. Yeah, we gotta lace them up and lace them tight, get up early and do our job. Yes, all of that is true. We're the underdog, but we can pull this off. But what it means is you nailed it. Momentum. Other states, other Republican states are gonna see that Indiana stepped up to the plate, they beat back the establishment and we got these two seats. It's going to give them the courage, the backbone, the spine in order to go forward and gain more seats for us. So this is not two, this is about 20 seats it's going to mean for us why this vote is so critical. Now you talk about profiles and courage. Okay, this is going to floor you. So I got one Republican can't give the name, because I promised off the record. I got one Republican who says, well, if we get the 26, I'll be the 27th. Well, we only need 26. As soon as we get to 26 votes, the lieutenant governor hits the button and it passes. What do you mean you're gonna. You're the 27th vote. What? Oh, my God. I got two other people who's like, I'll only vote for you if you can show me 23 on the board. Because if you can't get to 23, you can't get to 26. I don't want to get Rod Bray mad at me. I don't want. You know, I don't want all this. I just want this whole thing to go away. But if you can get to 23, then I'll get you to 24 and 25. I mean, talk about, why are you here? Like, why did you run? Why are you a state senator if you can't even stand up and say, hey, I don't care what number you get to, I'm a yes. That's what we're looking for. But this is what we got to deal with. Fear, anxiety. They want it to all go away, right? Nobody wants to step up now. We got 22 solid votes. 23 of Ryan Mishler would get back here. We got 23 solid votes and as many Rhinos as I've seen here, and people that are scared and cowardly. I've met warriors. I'm talking about Senator Chris Young, Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith, and others, really maggot warriors who put everything on the line to get this done. And they're working hard. We're going to see today at 1:30. But here's the thing. Here's what they hate. This isn't about voting no. This is about voting yes. If you're not a yes, vote on that board, okay, then you're not with us. And we're going to know who you are, and you're going to have to go on the record. You're going to have to either don't vote or vote yes or vote no, but we're going to know every single person that bailed on us. What's going on here is they're looking around and they're abandoning ship. We lost the mayor's ship in Miami. We lost this race in Georgia. Some public service commissioner got beat. Virginia got blown out. New Jersey's a disaster. Everybody, you know, maga's breaking up. We don't really need them. We're not concerned about Them we got to get out while they get good. That's what's going, going on here, Steve. That's why this vote today is so critical.

[Steve Bannon]

You've nailed it. The Republican establishment think that their theory, the case that Trump's a passing storm and that the MAGA movement will dissipate after Trump. That's what this is all about. You can go to, you look at the Senate. This is why there's no change of the filibuster. This is why there's no recess appointments. This is why now even his appointments coming up like the deputies for Bridge Colby, others are getting rejected at the committee level. Tell him to go back and rethink it. The $2,000 rebate on tariffs, they wouldn't even lift a finger. Hey, you may have to do some maneuvering on that. They don't want to talk about it. Everything that Trump wants to do, the entire Trump program, they're not interested. If you want to talk a tax cut, are sliding in $800 million in the dark of night into an NDAA for Ukraine. They're all for that. But they just think you're a passing summer store. The reason this is so important in Virginia, if you want to motivate people in Virginia, because Virginia is going to be bombed. It's going to be 10, 1. And people say, well, the courts are going to take care of us. When is a Democratic controlled court ever taking care of maga? Never. The answer is zero. You can't depend on these courts with these radical Democrat judges. You have to do it yourself. And John, if we don't win this in Indiana today, you're going to see just a collapse in intensity in Virginia and you're going to have a 10 to 1 map. That's why momentum here is so important. A win today will spring us forward to motivate Nebraska, Kansas, Ohio, Florida, these other places. You're right. We could pick up 20, we could pick up 20 seats in a dog fight on this redistricting. And this is the fight we have to win now. If we win these fights now, the Democrats will be more than disperse it. They'll realize that MAGA still is strong and powerful as it's ever been because this is not the Republican Party delivering this, is not the GOP delivering this. This is not the Republican establishment delivering this. They're fighting you harder than the Democrats. John Fredericks.

[John Fredericks]

Well, listen, that's what this whole thing is about. They want MAGA to go away and they think if we can stop this effort in Indiana, that's going to be the end of them. And it's going to show other states where the Republicans have the power to get more seats that, look, we couldn't do it in India, it's not worth the effort. And the whole MAGA thing's imploding anyway and it's going away and they can't win and they're going to lose the midterms. So it's time to get out. It's time to get off what they think is a sinking ship. This is why this vote here and the people standing behind a yes vote is going to turn the tide. I'm telling you, we win this thing, it's a game changer for the midterms. Right? President Trump, you want a Republican majority, we got to get on the phone, we can win this vote. We can get to 26. And I tell you what Mike is going to do. Soon as that vote hits 26, within a nanosecond, he is cutting off that vote and hitting the button. And this thing is going to pass. Oh, it's going to get challenged in the, in the court. If it does, it'll pass in two days. It'll go to scotus. They've already signed off on Texas, so they're going to sign off on. It means two seats and then two means 20. So Ryan Mishler, get your tail back here. Vote Joe Gruders, get him a plane. Do whatever you got to do. Work, get something done, do something.

[Steve Bannon]

Where do people go around the 1:32 o' clock time to catch up with you on social media. And then you're going to be back with us at 5. We're going to talk about this. There's nothing more important in MAGA world today to win this tactical victory in Indianapolis that will get us some momentum for the rest of this. So where do people go, sir?

[John Fredericks]

I'm going to be live all day giving, giving updates. You can follow me, tick tock, Instagram, YouTube, rumble wherever you want. At JF Radio Show. At JF Radio Show. I'm going to be giving constant updates and then I'm going to give, I'm going to give the final to war room here at 5pm Eastern. Right? Right from the Capitol. Don't miss that.

[Steve Bannon]

We'll see you back here at 5. John, thank you so much.

[John Fredericks]

Thanks for having me.

[Steve Bannon]

They fight the rep, the established order of the Republican Party, which, let's be blunt, they still control so much of the power. Right. A lot of that is, is misguided endorsements. You know, the Lindsey Graham's of the world. But they control the Senate. They still control the majority of the House. They control the rnc. We've made inroads. You've dented it. But then you see, it comes down to something like this. This is a fight against the Republican establishment. Do you think that Democrats would ever have this? No. They're very unified and psychologically obsessed with the destruction of Donald Trump. The Republican establishment, from the Wall Street Journal to most of the Fox folks to definitely the Murdochs to the McConnell, Karl Rove, everything up on Capitol Hill and in the state parties, they hate Trump as much as the Democrats do. And they now see an opportunity to get rid of him. They're not that worried about losing the House. They're just not. They don't want to lose the House. But they say, hey, if losing the House comes with getting rid of Trump in his cabal, eh, maybe we could do it for a while and we'll get it back later. That's their thinking. Don't take it from me. Look in the United States Senate right now, well, first off, the House is doing nothing to really support President Trump, whether it's to think through what you're going to do in Obamacare or think through alternatives of President Trump or come up with a legislative plan and sit down with President Trump. President Trump's got the weight for the world on his shoulders right now in NATO. Today, the head of NATO, he said, hey, I think Russia's going to target us next if this Ukraine thing doesn't work out. And there's a report out of Denmark, a classified document of Denmark where the Denmark's intelligence services in military part of NATO is putting the United States on a list of threats because of the situation in Greenland. As we pivot back to hemispheric defense. Remember, in hemispheric defense, Greenland is essential because that's the slot where the Russian submarines come through and you have to be able to monitor them, track them, essentially cut them off so they can't be a threat either the fast attacks to American, American commerce and merchant vessels and, or our navy. But as importantly, the boomers can't just slide in and kind of wait off our coast to be able to launch a hot one at the United States. So the Arctic in Greenland is essential to our homeland security. The new hemispheric defense that President Trump has put out in that memo that we got you, the National Strategic, the strategy memo that all of you have read, where they talk about the Trump corollary in Latin America, but Monroe Doctrine 2.0. Denmark's now said the United States a threat. Hey, if the United States is a threat, then you know what, bounce them out of NATO. Why are we paying for people say for threat? You think we're a threat, Just go your own way. I got no problem with that. If the Danes want to do it. If the Danes want to do it, you know, go do it. You know, your track record in WWII shows me everything I need to know.

Remember all of those guys in NATO? They were not our allies. They were not our allies. Let me repeat this. They were not our allies. Our allies were Lao, Beijing, the 35 million Chinese peasants that gave their lives fighting the Japanese and the communists.

And the Red army, the Russian people that gave, I don't know, 20 million combat casualties. Another 20 million or 25 million or 30 million came and count them. Is it 40 million or 65 million that died breaking the fascist? Yeah, those are allies that died on battlefields in places like, wait for it, Ukraine.

Some very tough choices for this country.

If this country is to survive as a constitutional republic and we're to bequeath it down to future generations like it was bequeathed to us, it's going to take the toughest of the tough, the most focused, the most dedicated will win. I believe that is the war room Posse in maga. Short break.

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Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

Can we play? I want to play. Before we have a very special event coming up at 11 o', clock, someone who's been in the trenches for.

Many, many years is going to make a very special announcement and we're going to be there to cover it live real America's Voice. I don't know if we have exclusive. I said we didn't want exclusive. Want to make sure everybody in the media sees this. But hey, maybe it is exclusive. We're going to go to the factory floor of my pillow in a moment and we're gonna get a very special announcement. So. And we're gonna stick there for a little part of the 11 o' clock hour and come back. Can we play? Can we. Do we have Howard Lutnick from yesterday on? I'm not so sure I fully understand when Lutnick talks. I feel like I'm at, on the other end of some bond salesman selling me some, some bond that's got a lot of that. The more he talks, the more I feel I have to do my own due diligence. You ever been in that situation before that I don't fully understand what. I just don't fully understand what's going on. So I got to check it out myself because he is a bond salesman and this is why he would be totally inappropriate as the Secretary Treasury. Another called shot of the war room. Remember in Elmo Elon, a person of tremendous judgment pushed Lutnick so hard to be Secretary Treasury. Do you understand what a disaster that would be right now with the capital markets jiggy to begin with? Now the president just tweeted out stock markets hit another all time high. I think that's terrific in the context that it means lower cost of capital for people issuing equity to build things and produce things and the use of proceeds to go and also for your 401ks and all that. But it's got to have a purpose to it. It has to have a kind of overall, hey, here's why this is good. This is good because the pension funds and pensions of many people that are tied to and have money in the stock market is very powerful and terrific. It's also good. It lowers the cost of capital. The higher the equity values are. It lowers the cost of capital so that people want to issue equity and not debt. And they want to issue equity to actually the use of proceeds, the plant equipment and all that. It's terrific. It helps lower the cost of everything and to build things. And we want to return ourselves to a manufacturing superpower. That's the whole overall purpose of the economic policy. Sometimes that gets lost. And the thing. But the big beautiful bill of which I didn't love a lot of it, but the most important part of it, the supply side tax cut, I thought was quite smart, particularly as Scott Besson says, and I agree with this, we talked about this for years on the show and behind the scenes it's kind of our last shot to really have and try to become a manufacturing superpower. You tie that with Navarro and President Trump and all these thoughts on redoing the commercial relationships and then all of a sudden you see that we could return with making massive investments in capital and bringing back higher value added, high paying jobs back here in the United States. So we're going to have a big announcement at 11 o'. Clock. Let's go. We got Natalie Dominguez, my favorite on home title lock. Okay, Natalie, in your sweet, lovely voice and demeanor, give me a horror story right now. I need a Nellie Dominguez horror story about every dream you've had. As I say, every dream you've had is in that home. Every dream and 90% of your net worth for your retirement. And it's really your savings account.

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[Natalie Dominguez]

Hi. Yeah, we got an interesting one out of New York. We've been seeing a lot more come out of New York. And my theory is that because they passed a law in 2024 that actually criminalized this, which good on you New York City for actually doing something about it. But we're seeing more come out because now more people are actually being arrested and prosecuted, which is fantastic. So this is an Interesting one. Mr. John Doe, we don't know what his name is, although in the past 30 years he's been arrested 12 times with three felony convictions. They don't know who this guy is. He stole a home under the alias Carl Avinger. He was sentenced this Last November to nine, four and a half to nine years for deed theft where he and this ring, he had this ring of three to four different people working with him, stole three homes in a very, very small amount of time within Queens. He used multiple aliases, false identifications and identity theft. And the crazy thing is that's actually how they caught him. The person whose identity he stole saw something on the news that came out from a victim of, hey, this thing happened. So they were able to kind of catch him and figure it out. But strange that they still don't know who this guy is despite multiple arrests, which is really interesting. But he had three co defendants, they falsified paperwork, they handled real estate transactions, sold two of the homes to third party buyers. And this is where it gets really sad and complicated. Although New York has this law that criminalized title theft and deed theft, now one of the homes, they were able to reverse the deed being transferred. However, two of the other homes had actually already been sold to third parties. So homeowners aren't getting their home homes back. They're going to have to go through this entire civil process that the criminal process now has no power to do anything about. And the homes are still not in their name. So just the really sad case here is that even in, you know, this one area in the United States where this actually is criminal, these homeowners are still kind of left with their own legal processes that they now have to take over in order to get their home back. Which is very, that's what I want to talk about. Very, very scary.

[Steve Bannon]

Well, but this is part just because they're going to after him criminally, that helps you as far as getting revenge or accountability and justice, but it doesn't help you on the civil side. This is why the home title lock, $1 million triple lock protection. I got two minutes. Tell me about the triple lock protection. Because those people would be protected if they had home title lock on the $1 million triple lock protection. What is it, ma'? Am?

[Natalie Dominguez]

Absolutely. So like you see here in New York, no one can stop this from actually happening because legislation is not being passed to make this crime harder to commit. However, what million dollar triple lock protection does is it monitors your property 24 7, not you, your property. So it's not connected to your Social Security or anything like that. It's going to notify you of anything that's being filed against it. And then third and most importantly, our million dollar restoration. So we have a team of legal experts across the US we spend up to A million dollars to get the fraud fixed. Put everything back in your name. Fight anyone that we need to fight. Go through any legal process you for any state, in any way that the state requires it. The important thing is in this case, let's say they had home title lock. They would have been notified the moment that these documents were filed. Instead of thinking this guy was helping them try to get a new loan out on the house. And they would have immediately allowed us to jump in and fix it before their homes were sold to third party buyers. So million dollar triple lock protection. We have a free trial for you guys. Really. We want you guys to go in and get that free title history record report to make sure that nothing has already been filed against your property. That's the most important thing. Home TitleOut.com promo code Steve, get your free trial today. Get your, your title history report, make sure you're not already a victim and.

[Steve Bannon]

Talk to Natalie Dominguez. They brought her on a couple years ago recommendation. It's been a home run. You're amazing. You're a Superstar. Natalie Dominguez. Hometitle lock.com promo code Steve, you get a free assessment. You get 14 days on the 1 million dollar triple lock protection and you get to know Natalie and she, she can guide you through everything. Thank you ma'. Am. The right stuff takes us out and the right stuff is going to bring us in. We're going to leave Indianapolis and go to Minneapolis, Minnesota, the heart of this problem in the United States of America. Next in the war room.

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