
Episode 4990: Mike Lindell Announces Run For Governor Of Minnesota ...
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
Mike Lindell
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
Steve Bannon
I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
It's Thursday the 11th of December in the year of our Lord 2025. As we've been documenting for you, this basically fiasco in our country about illegal immigration, about invasion of our country and what we need to do to sort it out. The beating heart of that right now is Minneapolis, Minnesota with what's happened there over the last decade or so. A very important announcement from the factory floor of MyPillow, one of the great entrepreneurial companies in this country. From one of our greatest entrepreneurs in a maga, stalwart Mike Lindell joins us. Mike, the floor is yours, sir.
Mike Lindell
Well, I'm going to give everybody a speech right now. Many of you already know me. You know that I was a crack cocaine addict along with many other addictions. And you also know that by the place to God that I overpayed my addiction drugs on January 16, 2009. You also know that I founded the Lindell Recovery Network to help others other addictions. You know that I founded the amazing successful company MyPillow. You know that MyPillow and myself spent millions fighting aims of hurricane victims, flood victims, fire victims, struggling inner cities and of course those struggling with drug addiction. I was the media darling within say Mike, how many, how many former addicts are you hiring? How many dentists are you hiring? And they would say, wow, you're, you're the American dream on steroids. And then in the summer of 2016, I met Donald Trump. On August 15, 2016 in a divine appointment, he reached out to me to discuss how you know, how it's a big know your products for the usa. And from that point on, the media turned on me. Of course you all know the story ever since and you also know that on February 18, 2017 I gave my life to Jesus Christ. I had a few months later I've been hunting 50,000 people in prayer at us. I thought that was going to be my only calling.
I had never voted. I didn't think politics mattered. Then along came the 2020 election. And you all know that I have been relentlessly making people aware of the fraud in our elections. You know that others have spot on here to tear me down because my efforts our own federal government, Joe Biden launched Operation Arctic Drop to target me and others who wanted to secure our election. They tried to take away my place. They targeted my banks, they targeted my suppliers. They even took my phone and I run my entire business off enterprise off my phone. They didn't just attack me. They also went out for my.
Well, it didn't work. I'm still standing. My pillow is still standing. And now I want you to know that I will stand for you as next governor of the state of Minnesota. I will stand for you. I guess the ramp with fraud under Governor Waltz. I will stand with you against crime that threatens the safety of your family. I will stand for you against government sponsors have to provide me with exploding property taxes, excessive fees, unfair sales tax. I'll stand for you against unnecessary regulations that strangle the entrepreneurial spirit. I will stand for businesses of all sizes, Small, medium, large, doesn't matter. We need to defend Those who provide U.S. citizens to the child that they need to protect and to take care of our families. I will stand for those of you that are struggling with addiction. I will stand for you by making Minnesota's education system one of the best. I am not alone in standing for you. I've never been alone. My Lord Savior Jesus Christ has been standing beside me all the way through the good times and the bad. He's never let me down. And with God's grace, I will never let you down either. Those who know me, they know I'm up to the task. I've had my finger on my post, my operations. And we've all heard a rampant draw the earth on the Washington Wallace. Either he was grossly managing and copying it or.
The governor is the chief executive of the state. He is responsible for the integrity of government operations under his party. Everyone who knows me knows that I micromanage and macromanage my companies. I work tirelessly in making sure that people.
What does Jim Walls know about the operation of Minnesota's government programs? We know that over 1 billion in fraud. His watch has already been found. Whistleblowers from the Minnesota indicate that that draw may reach as high as $8 billion the entire fiscal year and so does budget is 2025 59. The price of our state government has been inflated due to the swat. This means that families are paying too much for government. Families have been taken advantage of and others have not been taken care of. This means that businesses are trained all the financial resources they need to hire employees to invest in new products and to modernize existing operations. When it was leaked to the media that I was filing to run for governor Minnesota right here, the media pundits were quick to make comments like what does Mike know about being a politician? Let me be clear. I don't want to be like a politician. It's professional politicians that have gotten us into all over the last five years I have traveled all across this country to speak with politics about elections. I've come to the conclusion of the vast majority of politicians are not concerned with our best interests, their concern with special interests including their own self interest. Many have end agendas that don't know any of us and usually direct their. I want to be a leader and a politician. I want to solve problems, not create problems. This is what I do. I will solve my solve problem. That's what I've always done. I've lived the American dream on steroids. Solving one problem after another on a path to success. The goal of government is to secure the rights of the government as a citizen and a business leader. I've already been working twice that again. I've been working to secure our place at the police against powerful enemy. These enemies don't care what I what you have to say. I do. They want to silence our voices. I have been put. I put everything on the line. As the next governor of Minnesota, I will stand for your rights. Together we will restore respectable and order. You are here illegally. Now's the time you're going to be set back or being funded. If you're stealing from Minnesota taxpayers, you need to be put in prison. If you're committed to increasing the tax burn on Minnesota, you need to find a different part. We need to stop the explosion of property taxes. We need to stop excessive fees. We need to stop penalizing the brick and mortar businesses, the propide shops family. We need to ensure that our parents and teachers are empowered with the ability to choose the best education options for our kids. In short, we need to make government more about your needs and about your quality of life.
Create the power to tell us how to live our life. This means that you need a voice. They tried to take away my voice. They tried to take away your voice. We can't Let this happen again. That's why I'm standing for you. I'm standing for all of our God given rights. The right to life, the right to liberty, the right to happiness. The purpose of government is to secure these rights. Governor Waltz and his supporters have instead been stealing these rights. This step, this fraud needs to end now. If you will stand with me as the next governor of Minnesota, our future will be amazing.
Steve Bannon
Lindell, here's. Here's the question. Is that why you and why now? You've gone through, and the company has gone through hell over the last couple of years. I've never seen a fighter like you. And you've led your. You led your company so far back to turn it around. Why? What compels you that you must do this now? That you must get into politics now?
Mike Lindell
Well, Steve, first of all, I wanted to make sure my pillow was secure and stable before I moved on. My pillows were the most attacked company in history. And as you see, they're still standing. And this know that they're without me. That they're going to keep going and they will and they will press on as one of the greatest American made in the USA stories ever. And then I watch right now, I watch what's happening in Minnesota. You know, this fraud, they fell all the way back to 2000, you know, and. And it just keeps getting worse and more magnified. The government we have here is disgusting. They're leading a stealth path that nonsensical paths. And I see year after year now things don't change, they get worse and worse. And I think it's kind of like this thing ghosting with you. If you want something done right, you do it yourself. I don't trust anyone else to get this job done. You know, I track record of what I've seen out of what I've solved the problems. And right now Minnesota is a typical sphere for our country. I believe it's right now we're like the Trojan horse. I mean we're like the Trojan horse. The fraud, the crime, the everything the.
We talked about, you know, all the nonsensical things that like I said in, in my speech, that the government does things. When government officials make decisions that don't help us all as individuals, whether we're a Democrat, Republican, conservative or liberal. If it doesn't help anybody, it's a hidden agenda and it's a very evil agenda. Steve, I went all over this country four and a half years, meeting with politicians, trying to secure our election. I met, I put in hundreds and hundreds of hours lying around.
To meet general secretary of state, congressman, all these. All these politicians. And one after another.
You get blocked and you're going by things that don't make sense. When you look at deviations, if they don't make sense, they, like you say there's a good agenda. Minnesota fubing on. This is the last chance. I believe that Minnesota that we have in Minnesota, you know, I think it's became worse than California. These nonsensical things. I mean, Jim Waltz has led the charge for nonsense for complete nonsense. Something a few years ago we would have thought why. I mean, you've got to realize that back in the back of the virus, when the vagina virus down Tim Welsh would let us have. I think it was eight people in our house for Thanksgiving or if you had more than enough a neighbor could turn you in for. And you get 90 days in jail. And then we could have 12 for they are for Christmas. I mean these things that make sense. And.
Now we just see all this fraud. Like I said, either. Either he is. Let's just say for a minute that he's completely negligent or I mean he doesn't know anybody. Completely plausible deniability. He doesn't know a thing about the crime. When you're the governor, you should be watching everything that goes on the state. And if you see a deviation in numbers, I mean you probably miss $8 billion, you better look into it, you better find out why. So there's many. But there's many reasons. I think it came to a. Seemed to have this. You know, I've been thinking about it for a long time. Right before the 2020 election, I was going to run in. I was. I was going to come up in and run for governor in 22.
And I said, you know, I figured I had to get out there, secure our secure elections and which by the way, we've got great progress in that too. But I just. I love my state. I love the country. I love people. And the stuff that I was doing before when I came out of addiction, like maybe downtown Minneapolis, but all my friends down there that I had pulled them out of addiction. We spent millions of dollars helping. Helping inner city addicts come out of addiction with Nylah Recovery Network, Health Team Challenge, Salvation army, all these things. This is where. This is where I want to be as problem solution. And right now you get down to Minneapolis and it's a shame. You see empty buildings, you see our retailers and this is around the country too. You see empty retailers, empty buildings. People are in Fear, no. Police. I mean, our little police. So these things, I have great.
Great things in store. And not just ideas, but they're all laid out of the solutions to all these problems. And so that's where.
Steve Bannon
Okay, let me take this. Maybe a different angle of this so people fully understand why you're doing this. On the morning of the election of November 3rd of 2024, if you looked at the polling and you looked at the way the media was playing it, by midnight that Night Waltz would have been Vice President of the United States. Why now do you believe he should not be governor again? He came so close to actually being vice president, and they supposedly did due diligence, did due diligence on him at the time. Why is it now that you feel that you need to basically walk away from your company to go to the people in Minnesota and saying, he needs to be replaced, and he needs to be replaced by me, sir.
Mike Lindell
Right. Well, for one thing, what a blessing it was that he ran for vice president as the whole country got to see what he really is. And I feel right now, you know, if we don't, I think we get.
Stephen K. Bannon
One shot at this.
Mike Lindell
One shot. And I don't. And I believe, well, I know that I'm the best person for the job. I have faced adversity. I have faced things, people I don't believe anyone's faced. So many things where I've had to be able to prom solution and then building things from scratch. New things and new ideas. He's not qualified. He has never been qualified. This guy is a terrible, terrible governor. But these nonsensical things and bringing it down a different path, and it's too late for him to pull back now, like, you know, trying to say, I didn't know about that. I didn't know about this. We in Minnesota knew what was happening, you know, and I got. I have a little history with him. He. When we. When I was making masks here at my pillow and we had. We had bought millions of dollars worth of masks, and this before I knew they didn't work right. And before the 2020 election, everybody, just to show you how the is, they reached out and said, does anybody have.
Stephen K. Bannon
Masks in the state?
Mike Lindell
We need masks. And I said, you know what? I'll donate him free.
Stephen K. Bannon
Millions of dollars worth.
Mike Lindell
This was like three or four weeks before the 2020 election. And his office said, no, we're not taking them from Mike Lindell until after the election. Because I was so branded with Donald Trump. And I said, you know, if you do that I said, I'm going public with you. Said, you need an asset giving them to you free. Well, then they said, okay, we'll do it, but you got all the media has to be a block of wave. And they put just things like this, but these. What he's done to our state is destroying it. You're destroying it from within. You can go right down the line. Education, you can go the inner city.
I mean, the list goes on and on. And he hasn't fixed anything. We had billions of dollars in surplus and now we're negative. The Minnesota, I mean, we're negative. It's all gone. And it's for an agenda that they have. It's just. I don't even know if you call it a woke agenda. It's bizarre, the stuff that he comes up with. And his only thing, Steve, is Donald Trump this and Donald Trump that. And instead of addressing all these problems we have here in Minnesota. So I think the time is now. I don't think any, I don't think, you know, it comes down to it. I've seen other people run. They don't win. I don't think if we don't win, we have to win this next election against him. And we have one shot. And I think I'm the only one that can get that done. Not only that, but to just. I will pull one of the things too, Steve, is I will pull and only get everybody out to vote. There's 2,000 or 2,000, I think 2,633 towns and cities in Minnesota. I will be going to every single one that I can go to. I will be traveling nonstop to get the people out to vote. Number one, this midterm election is the most important in history. And then also I'll be able to pull inner city. Just like I went to Chicago for the Democrat convention last year, and me and Mia, Rudy Giuliani went to the inner city. We talked to the, the blacks and Hispanics that were up here legally, that they live here, and they said, what's your biggest. What's your biggest. Who you vote for? And all of them, well, this time we're going to vote for Donald Trump. And we said, why? A lot of them didn't even like it, but they said, why? And they said the number one reason was the illegals were taking all of their resources, including their, their treatment centers for their hotels, their, their health care, all this stuff. And that's where you have. In Minneapolis. You have these things going on in every big city. Well, Steve, I was already involved with many things in the inner city. And.
When you have elections, if things don't change, you need a different input to get a different output. I think we all agree on that.
And right now, also in Minnesota, you can look into something that's really dear to my heart. When you run for office, you can also go and make sure that voting machines are not the source coding, that they're up to standard, which none of them will be. And being here, Amy Klobuchar, she was the first one or one of the first ones that said the voting machines got to go in the movie Kill Chain. And so I look forward to getting in and talking to her. I think there's a lot of things that can be worked together to make Minnesota between.
Some of the Democrats might still have some common sense to work together with.
Steve Bannon
Highly unlikely on that. But you can try. People don't. I know you because I've seen you behind the scenes and what you've had to do to save your company and what you've had to do to make sure that your employees not just have great paychecks, but bonuses and a fulfilling life. I've seen the assaults that you've been under and the attacks you've been under nonstop, particularly Minnesotans that really have just seen you as an entrepreneur. Give me a couple of examples to the folks out there about your inner strength, what you've had to overcome, some of it that you brought on yourself, but that makes it more powerful. You had to overcome. Walk me through two or three of the biggest tasks you've ever had in your life and how you've overcome them.
Mike Lindell
Well, one was definitely when I was a crack cocaine addict and living a lot of times in the streets. And, you know, God freed me of that on January 16, 2009. And, you know, and so even the drug dealers did an intervention on me. And they had said, downtown Minneapolis. I. I've been up for days, 14 days, and I. And I come out of the broom and they go, please stand in there, my drug dealers. And they go. They go. I go, what's this? They go, we need you to. We're cutting you off. You've been up for days. And I said, what is this, an intervention? They said, call it whatever you want, Mike. Well, 2:30 in the morning, I went down to the streets. Guys stayed up to watch me until I ran out of trap. And then he fell asleep. So I head down the streets of Minneapolis. I went out trying to buy it. They had got the word out, don't sell to him. I came back up at 2:30 in the morning and he was waiting up for me. He goes, how'd that work out for you? And I was all upset. He said, he said man, you've been telling us for years you're going to quit your addictions and you're going to come back and help us all out of this, this drug, drug world we're living in. And I was their hope, Steve. And he, he, he took a picture, he said here, you're going to need this picture for that book. Well, he said you're going to write. Which is now it's came to fruition. What are the odds from crack addict to CEO? And by, by the way, two of those guys work for me. They're born again Christians now. So there's a. To overcome that addiction. When God freed me of that addiction, that was.
And then the other thing too is, you know, my pillow has been overcome. We've had to overcome the last five years the biggest attack on a company in history. No company's been more attacked. It started out with the box stores canceling us because right after the, right after the 2020 election, when you got into January, I had evidence of fraud that huge gamuts of fraud in the 2020 election. And then I started speaking out against the voting machine and the going to pay for balance. Well, my company got attacked. I mean they, they took them even not just with welfare, but they got attacked. We lost $200 million in box stores right out of the gate. And then it's like two years later the machine companies just passed the hat to our own government. Where the DOJ under Arctic Cross everybody, the doj, the.
FBI, the IRS and three other entities went all in again attacking my pillow. And we've been able to survive that. We've been debanked. Debanked. Demergent server. They reached out our own government reached out to our vendors and said don't do business with my pillow. They've attacked us so much Steve, every day. And these employees here, they know to serve out. They know we can think it's made in the usa. These guys have families and but my pillow, you know, was able to survive by the grace of God. That's been one of the hardest things. That's why I've been over the last year and a half I wake up every day and here with my company and work so hard to keep as they keep getting attacked to keep the ship going. And so I've been in two different places where I built a company from the ground Out. Nobody ever handed me anything, and I did it without. Basically, without banks. We're not going to loan money to a. Well, you made a pillow, but good for you.
And then also, to solve the problems at my pillow, almost every employee has my direct phone number. And we work on direct. We work on deviations of blocks. If they see a deviation of one of these employees on the line, seeing that one pillow was off or there was something wrong, they would call me and. And immediately. Any deviation or if they're blocked, because I want to know. I'm already making decisions. Everything is going very smooth, and it's worked really great if I feel all new. But that's been. It's been really hard. And then the other. I guess other things is myself, you know, being attacked for. We're just. When I believe in something, I don't ever back down. And. And, you know, I believe that we have to secure our election. When I met Donald Trump in the summer of 2016, I was the media's darling. They're all sitting here right now. I'm looking at. They would come here every day to my pillow going, how many veterans are you hiring, Mike? Wow, you gave millions of dollars to Hurricane Harvey or you gave me all this stuff, Boy, how many employment addicts you hiring? You keep giving people second chances. And, boy, everything changed after I met our great president Donald Trump. I met him. A divine appointment. I met him. And they said. But they said, mike, no, you're never gonna. You're not gonna meet him alone. And whatever you do, don't tell him you were a crackhead. Well, that's the first thing I did. I said, if you were alone. And I said, you know, I used.
Stephen K. Bannon
To be a crackhead.
Mike Lindell
And I said. And he said. He said, mike, you know, it was just him and I. And he said, you know, and I said, I'm sure I'm gonna have what's called the Lindell Recovery Network to help all people. He said, going to shut down the border and stop the trucks pouring. And we sat and talked, and he wanted to know there was no agenda other than he wanted. He was asking this guy from Minnesota, this entrepreneur. I never got involved in politics, never voted in my life, but he wanted to know how it was like manufacturing here. And I told him the problems of doing stuff overseas, like. And we went through all that. But I was in there for probably an half hour, and at that time, I go, wow, this guy's a great president. I never met him for a president. To me, or I've never Been. I didn't even think I'd get within 10ft of the White House with my path. Well, anyway, he. I went back to. I went and talked to his employees. I went and talked my. My wife to me. We went and talked to his employees. And I go, I go because I wanted to find out the guy that I met there if this was his real. And everyone I talked to said, you know, great man, great boss. And interesting enough he had done something for them individually, all the ones we had talked to. And you can learn a lot about, about a leader, about how their employees. You couldn't find any in the 2020, 2016 election. And with bad mouth, we didn't know the media slap. So I got back to Minnesota here, and I go, I did a press release. I didn't even say what we talked about. You guys, this is August of 2016. I did this press release and the media turned on me. They're all standing here right now. They turned on me like, what did I do wrong? And they, they put out these false things. They attacked. They attacked my pillow. They took the. My rating from A plus to an F in my pillow. The Better Business Bureau, the corrupt Better Business Bureau and which, by the way, is still enough.
Stephen K. Bannon
Everybody.
Mike Lindell
That's just fantastic.
So, you know, this been. When I say that was hard to overcome. We've had. It's been an eight year, eight to 10 years. Eight, eight, nine years now. It's been an ongoing battle and we still haven't won yet. We. Steve, I pray that the media of this country will go back to being journalists instead of just attacking. Can you hear that, you guys? They're all looking at me, smiling.
You know, I will see how this comes out. And I'm announcing the run for government. I will make a great governor. I never stop. I work. I work 18 hours a day. I'm going to need to save Minnesota. We need to secure, secure our families. You know, Waltz made a comment about two months ago, I believe we got rumors I was running and he said, we need. We don't want Mike Lindell and Donald Trump coming into our state and ruining our family values. Well, I got news for him. I've lived here, was born and raised here all my life. And I said I'm all for the family. Whether he would even think of it. It's like it was a disgusting thing except.
Steve Bannon
Mike, just hang on for one second. We're taking a short commercial break. We're going to return historic today on the factory floor of my pillow, one of the great entrepreneurial companies in this country that have been under constant assault for five years. Mike Lindell just announced he's running for the Republican nomination for governor. Short break, back in a moment.
Mike Lindell
Open your mind to sing we're in a modern day Hollywood coming after your mind to find your soul.
Steve Bannon
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Mike Lindell
Here'S your host, Stephen.
Steve Bannon
K. Banner.
Okay, major news out of Minnesota just moments ago, Michael and Dallas. He's going to take on Tim Walls to be governor of Minnesota. This couldn't be a more important time to discuss this because Minnesota is, I think, the key that picks the lock on what's been going on about this illegal immigration and about getting people in here and naturalizing them without actually getting down to the bottom. Or they. Do they really have allegiance to the United States? Are they loyal to the United States? This scandal, which Mike Lindell had just said in his opening announcement, is a billion dollars. I actually think people can talk to you about it being $8 billion. Stephen Miller continues to say that it could be the scandal that unravels everything. So the question has to be how did someone who came so close now, by the evening of November 3rd, it was a blowout and it finished at, you know, what, 10 or 11 o' clock at night. Really, we knew that that's when it was over. But leading up to that, with the fake news and the polls, Waltz that morning looked like he was going to be by the evening, the Vice President elected the United States. And that's what they all thought. So how do we get so far into a process. You got all the jackals in the media there today to go and try to pick on the carcass of. Of Mike Lindell, because the attacks are going to be intense. In fact, they've already started to put him up in all the usual places, the Huffington Post and all the places that follow Mike Lindell's every move so closely. The question gets to be, how did everybody miss some basic due diligence here on Waltz and what was going on in Minneapolis and in Minnesota? This situation with the situation is. This is pretty extraordinary. And Mike Lindell sure is going to drill down on that. Mike, here's a question. Your intensity, your urgency as far as making sure the company's taken care of, but also you've been involved in election integrity on other issues related to mag around the country. The people in Minnesota, most people who don't follow politics that closely, what they want is competence in government. They want leadership in government. And I'm sure that most of those folks right now are as shocked or more shocked than anybody of what's happening in their state. I mean, they've had this feeling, I know, with the Somalians for a while, but the level of fraud and really open fraud, this was not that. Not that tough to get to. What is your commitment to the people in Minnesota about getting to the bottom of this? And Getting back to kind of good, solid government that you can allow entrepreneurs to flourish, you can allow families to first this, the basic blocking and tackling. You, you have to do as governor to make sure that people can live the lives that they want to lead.
Mike Lindell
Sir.
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, first of all, Steve, and you've known me for years, I'll be the most transparent governor this country's ever seen. I got all the media right here. They have my direct, direct line, direct contact. I tell the people, they will know everything that I know and I will dig in. When there's deviations, whether it's fraud or anything else that's nonsensical or problem, it needs to be run like a company. That's what this state needs to be run like. Not just politicians running around not getting anything done or doing things that don't help the people. What I wanted to say, you know, when you see deviations and you look at each thing, it's not just being a governor running around saying you're a governor, you're responsible to every single department, everything all the way down. And when you see a problem here, you gotta fix the problem and, and then put stuff in place that it never happens again and duplicate, you got to duplicate your Successes. That's business 101. And it's. And that's what I'm going to. That's what I would do. That's what I would do. It would change, it would change the landscape here. But one of the things, Steve, I do want to bring up is the media here, the media in Minnesota, we have a problem with our media all across their country. I've got a ton of them right behind me. And the fraud in Minnesota, they're not even reporting. We had one outlet in Minnesota that's your cbs, abc, Fox local and cbs. But they, I think only one of them mentioned this fraud. How deep it is, how far it goes. They don't even talk about it. It's like, you know, I just can't fathom why they would be putting pressure on walls. The Star and Tribune, here's a perfect one. I just seen this this morning. And by the way, they're here. He's standing right here. But anyway, the Starting Tribune, back in 2000, they reported fraud by Somalians, actually. And in the year 2000, headlines in the paper, massive fraud. This was the year 2000. And now you can't, you won't be able to find it in the paper. We'll see, we'll see if he puts it there tomorrow. You know, they should be Attacking, just attacking these politicians and calling them out and saying what's going on. You know, where's Keith Ellison and all this? The Attorney General of Minnesota? No, he's too busy attacking Mike Lindell's Lindell Recovery Network rather than finding out all this fraud. You see, when you do stuff like that there's a hidden agenda like I said. And what is his agenda? Was he part of it? Did he know about it? I mean this is stuff that needs to be investigated and this is stuff when stuff like this would come up. I would be the most transparent governor this country's ever seen in this state's ever seen. Because as long as the media was reported, I guess that's, that's, you can't, if you, if you can yell as loud as you want but if the media only puts out what they want you want you to hear, then it becomes the very biggest cover. I believe the media is one of the biggest problems for the biggest cover up of the biggest crimes this country's ever seen. And they've been, it's been a problem. And that, that includes your Fox News of the world. As you know, I bash them all the time but they, but if you have stuff go on, you need to get let everybody know that it's going on and that they're going to take care of it. You can't have this cover up. It's just disgusting.
Steve Bannon
This is my point about Waltz. On the morning of the election they were leading according to the polls, right? No due diligence was done. This all should have been discovered years ago. The media response, but also people in Minnesota in the government. What I don't think, I don't think people in Minnesota know you like I know he's a businessman. People remember Mike Lindell for the ads and the mypillas and all the creative marketing. Really the strength of MyPillow and Mike Lindell, I see it as someone who's very closely associated with you and knows you pretty well is mathematics and you're an operational, I think genius. And this thing of deviations. You run the company on a set of math and you're relentless about getting to the bottom. This is why I think your waltzes. The best opponent that somebody could feel against waltz is someone like you who's so relentless on looking at operations and getting to the bottom of it. He's not going to be able to hide behind. He's not going to be able to hide behind a bunch of happy talk. People got to know Mike Lindell is like a dog With a bone. When there's a problem to come up with a solution. He's relentless. And it can't be happy talk. It's all about a set of math that gets you to a conclusion. How will you apply those native skills that most Minnesotans I don't think fully realize in your campaign, first against Waltz and then as governor of the state?
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, yeah, absolutely. It's deviations. You look at deviations, whether it's deviation in behavior, whether it's deviation in mathematics. You know, like for example, the elections. You go back to the 2020 election and I did my own investigation. I looked at them going, okay, there's 4,000 people that voted in Wisconsin that maybe lived in Minnesota. What wasn't. I just couldn't imagine people going, come on everybody, let's go jump the border, run over and commit a crime and vote for Biden. It's just not. It's not. It's nonsense. So that's why, you know, we got to the point where, okay, let's find out what really happened. And. And then you got your machines and your computers and other things. But in. To run it. To run things like I run my business. You look at things. You. Every day you would look at all these platforms, all these silos of the of of business in Minnesota, all these things from education to.
Anything going on. And you look at them and you say, okay, here's the baseline. And all of a sudden this changed. You better find out why. Because something had to affect that and you need a different input to get this output and find out and track it down. When you talk about mathematics, Steve is they is. You're right. That is how you. The best way to run businesses and also block. I want to. I will be very transparent with communication. One of the things I think is lost in government and politicians is the communication from the leaders on down. I think I was this governor, they would be tired of me calling them or calling me, looking and saying, hey, we got a problem over here. Are you guys going to fix this? Are you going to. What are you doing with this? This is what I do in my company. You have all these different apartments every day you look at that and if everything is beautiful, then you go to the next day when you go, hey, there's a problem over here. You know, what do you guys have to say about it? There would be the transparency, I think in the communication has to be done. So this is what like Walt's. Now did he not have any communication with all these other. With your. Your healthcare and all the stuff that was doing, the Medicaid that went, that went out, all this fraud, you know, was there any communication when he goes and sees there's $8 billion missing and stuff. So that's where I will use communication and deviation and mathematics to, to put this all together. Because you have to run it like that. You have to micromanage and macromanage.
Steve Bannon
Last thing I know, you're son of Minnesota. Before we let you go, sir, what does Minnesota mean to you? Why would you put, having turned around this company, all the assaults, FBI, doj, irs, you got Ellison coming after your Christian Recovery Network. What does Minnesota mean to you? And what do you need your fellow Minnesotans to understand what it means to you that you would put everything aside to run for governor now?
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, Steve, I love Minnesota. I was born here, born in Mankato, Minnesota. All my family's here, everything's here, my company's here. You know how many times people said, mike, with all the regulations and all the stuff in Minnesota, just move my pillow somewhere else. I said, no, I love Minnesota. And that's it. You know, when I grew up here, we had so many things. You know, you go, you went downtown. You had this beautiful downtown. We were the first mall Steve, in the world, I think for sure in the United States. Southdale Mall. I mean, I used to go in there as a kid, the first escalators, all these things. Drive in movies back when I worked at the drive in movies, these things. And yes, there's some things you can't bring back, but you can certainly bring back common sense and save a lot of these industries and save our cities and, and that's why when you see that bus behind me, we're going to. There's 2,633 towns and cities in Minnesota and I'm going to try and get to every single one of them over this, over these next 10, 12 months.
Steve Bannon
Mike, where do people go to find out more about this? Where do they go to find out your governor for campaign you are not Minnesota is about to see what a non traditional politician, what a leader and someone from the community that's grassroots and not a politician. It's certainly not a polished politician is about to come on the campaign trail. Where do people go?
Stephen K. Bannon
You guys can find everything you need to know@mikelendellgov.com that's mikelendellgov.com you guys are going to see a lot of the solutions I have there for a lot of these problems we currently have. And some you don't even know about, but it's mikelendellgov.com.
Steve Bannon
Mike Lindell. Go with God, sir. Appreciate you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you, Steve. Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Unconventional. Here's the thing about Lindell. We talked about agency early on, about how this, how this audience has put so many things on their shoulders to win.
Mike Lindell
Right.
Steve Bannon
You know, Lindell has gone through hell. His company's gone through hell, his people have gone through hell. They have, you know, gone from someplace that, that had, you know, was in every big box, was in Walmart. And you have to remember, not only were they in these stores, they probably had the highest profit margins in this retail for the. For the big box and for these big stores when he got canceled. And folks know, as tough as retail is today, for them to cancel anything that drives their bottom line or adds to their operating income is unheard of. It just doesn't happen. They're dying for those types of products.
That's why you could tell that they're really coming after Mike Lindell to destroy him. Now what do you have to do? He had to restructure the company, had to rethink things, had to really go to a. To a strategy that was some TV advertising, but also sponsorship advertising, where he went and he saved the company. He turned it around, but he was debanked, deplatformed, all of it. And so for him to come and to kind of have that, the little glimmer of sunlight they have now at the company and turning around and driving and to step. To really step aside and to go run for governor in his beloved state shows you what a patriot is. That's someone that puts his community before himself, puts his state before himself, puts his country before himself. And that's why Mike Lindell has been such, I think, fantastically leader. It's about action. Action, action, not talk. One thing, you get Mike Lindell, you're gonna get action. There will be quite unconventional run in Minnesota. Short commercial break. Back in the warm in a moment.
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Mike Lindell
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Steve Bannon
No, Mike Lindell, you know, is very unconventional. You're not going to have a conventional run up there in Minnesota. It's just not. You have a very unconventional guy who is also one of the smartest guys I know. Mike Lindell comes across, you know, he's got a Persona that's Mike Lindell, right? And the commercials reinforce that. And you know, the selling palace that the Mike Lindell I know is that because that's his true self. But he's got a laser focused mind. He runs the company in a very, very, very mathematical way. And these types of companies, people will tell you, particularly ones that are marketing intensive mathematically, are quite, you know, boom. It's why when I went to Harvard, some of the top graduates every year go to Proctor and Gamble, right? Procter and Gamble takes these. The marketing people are next to the finance guys. Very, very, very smart, very smart. And so, and Lindell, that's all native to him, he didn't go to get any mba. He just learned this. I will tell you one thing, he will be an instrument against walls. And these Democrats, this scandal in Minnesota, I think, and Stephen Miller, I think agrees, is a key that picks the lock to a lot of things that have been going out there of how this has been financed by taxpayers in the open, not, not, not, not closed. The corruption of the media, you can talk about it, but you can show it that there was no due diligence done on walls whatsoever. That's how corrupt the Democratic Party is. And I think how dangerous they put a guy up as vice president one heartbeat away. If Kamala had potentially won and thank God. But on that morning, remember, that's where he had that huge relief of joy. Now, I kept saying, we've got this. You just have to turn out. But it just wasn't the early vote. It was game day. It was a game day apparatus. And that is where you came in. The MAGA movement overperformed that day and just had a crushing blow. And you can see that at msnbc. They're all happy and clappy and all, you know, big smiles on Rachel Maddow and all that. The smiles came off, started coming off pretty quickly until we had that historic victory. If those polls, fake as they were and phony as they were, the psyop that they were, had worked. Tim Walls. Walls would been the vice president, United States, one heartbeat away in particular with someone like Kamala, who's not exactly the entire package, as we say, not a. Not a five tools player in baseball.
Think about that for a second. And what we're finding out now about what has gone on is to the center beating heart of the invasion of this country and what's happened in this country.
Walls is one of the guys that not just knew about it, but exacerbated it. Tell you one thing, of all the candidates out there, Mike Lindell is the instrument that can deliver that blow. He is absolutely relentless. Now, people in the media, they say he's a gadfly, everything like that. Mike Lindell can drop a hammer blow. And that's what this race in Minnesota.
Mike Lindell
Is going to be.
Steve Bannon
If you want somebody to go in there and do the pick and shovel work that needs to be done, to hammer Walls every day and hammer him every day and expose this, the good folks in Minnesota, what's going on in his watch and that they knew about and not just went along with, but exacerbated. Mike Lindell is that. Mike Lindell is that instrument. And that's why. And he prayed a lot on this. I know there were many people said, look, in the state of where the company is right now, why don't you stick here? There'll be other opportunities. You know, you're still relatively young. You've got other shots of this. But no, he prayed on this. And in his heart he said, I got to do this, I got to do it now. So I would hang on, what's going to happen in Minnesota? You know, Mike Lindell didn't ask anybody's permission except for God's when he prayed. Right now, all family pharmacy, we keep talking about the Maha movement and medical freedom. You don't need to ask people permission at all on how you're going to look after yourself. I think it's one of the great parts of the Bobby Kennedy revolution and make America healthy again and why they're such a great coalition partner in bringing President Trump Back to power. AllFamilyPharmacy.com, you've now got an opportunity. The drugstore business, the pharmaceutical industry is also a cabal. It's as bad as Big Pharma. You know this. Allfamilypharmacy.com Bannon go there today. They have licensed professionals, licensed professionals for every state that you can get your medications and you can get Ivermectin, your antibiotics, everyday medications. The team over there has is rewiring the way the system works. Give it a shot, Go check it out. And if you're a physician or someone that wants to be part of it, contact them, too. AllFamilyPharmacy.com promo code Bannon put up Bannon 10. You get 10% off. You'll want to do that. All family pharmacy. So much going on today. We're going back to Indianapolis. When we come back, Charlie Kirk and the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvette. Everyone will follow us. Posobics at 2 o', clock, Steve Gruber at 3, Eric Bolling at 4. We're back here at 5. During the day, make sure you check in with John Frederick. I think we'll push that out to make sure we understand exactly what's going on in Indiana. This is to go back to the beginning of the show. We're going to win and we're going to hold. We're going to hold serve, essentially win in, in November next year. Is it going to be easy? No, it's not going to be easy. Is it going to be harder maybe than anything that we've done before, including 16 and 24? I think it might be.
Mike Lindell
Yep.
Steve Bannon
Trump is not personally on the ballot, but he is on the ballot. It's a referendum against him.
Mike Lindell
That's.
Steve Bannon
We've seen these redistributing fights now. So do we have our work cut out for us? Yes, we have our work cut out for us. Is it a steep hill? It is a steep hill. Is that ever waved you off in the past? Hell, no. It reinforces. So with all the Cassandras and everybody saying it's over, it's over, not only is it ain't over, we're gonna win this. Now there has to be some refocus on some policies. I think some People are looking or focus on things maybe they shouldn't focus on. There's a bunch of stuff that's happened. The central basic beating heart of it is correct and directionally it's correct. And you've got President Trump. And I keep saying until somebody can show me that someone can generate the votes of the people that determine elections today. And those would be people that are lower information, not because they're dumber, just because they're not that engaged in politics. They're living their lives low propensity, low, low information voters. Obama showed us that. President Trump showed us that. This is the key. And President Trump has been the key to victory and he will be again. A tough, tough fight.
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Clock.
Steve Bannon
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Podcast: Bannon’s War Room
Episode: 4990: Mike Lindell Announces Run For Governor Of Minnesota
Date: December 11, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Guest: Mike Lindell
In this episode of Bannon’s War Room, Mike Lindell – entrepreneur, MyPillow CEO, and conservative activist – officially announces his candidacy for Governor of Minnesota. Speaking live from the MyPillow factory floor, Lindell delivers a passionate speech highlighting his personal journey, political motivations, and the urgent need for new leadership in Minnesota. The conversation with Steve Bannon explores Lindell’s background, his criticisms of incumbent Governor Tim Walz, and his vision for restoring government integrity, business health, and public trust in Minnesota.
Lindell recounts his troubled past as a crack cocaine addict and his recovery, crediting faith in God and his founding of the Lindell Recovery Network.
After experiencing media celebration for his “American Dream” story, he became a political pariah after meeting Donald Trump in 2016, dedicating himself to "securing our elections" post-2020.
Claims to have endured harassment and targeting by the federal government, including “Operation Arctic Drop,” bank debanking, and loss of business due to his activism.
Key Quote:
“They tried to take away my place… my banks… my suppliers. They even took my phone… Well, it didn’t work. I’m still standing. My Pillow is still standing.” — Mike Lindell (03:45)
Announces candidacy to “stand with you” against “fraud, crime, exploding property taxes, excessive fees, unfair sales tax, unnecessary regulations.”
“I’ll be the most transparent governor this country’s ever seen… When there’s deviations, whether it’s fraud or anything else that’s nonsensical or problem, it needs to be run like a company.” — Mike Lindell (35:21)
On overcoming adversity:
“When God freed me of that [addiction], that was…the biggest thing ever.” — Mike Lindell (22:52)
On political transformation:
“They turned on me like, what did I do wrong? They attacked my pillow. My rating from A+ to F. The Better Business Bureau…” — Mike Lindell (27:28)
On Minnesota’s challenges:
“Year after year, things don’t change, they get worse. If you want something done right, you do it yourself.” — Mike Lindell (10:42)
On why run now:
“I figured I had to get out there, secure our elections… I love my state, I love the country, I love people.” — Mike Lindell (13:44)
On transparency:
“If you see a problem, you gotta fix the problem and put stuff in place so it never happens again. Duplicate your successes. That’s business 101.” — Mike Lindell (35:22)
Bannon on Lindell:
“Mike Lindell is like a dog with a bone. When there’s a problem to come up with a solution, he’s relentless.” — Steve Bannon (38:54)
| Timestamp | Segment | |-------------|------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:52–08:49 | Lindell’s announcement, background, and motivation | | 05:19–08:49 | Critique of Tim Walz, Minnesota’s fiscal issues | | 09:34–14:51 | Lindell on why he’s running, reflections on state politics | | 21:21–24:45 | Overcoming addiction and business setbacks | | 24:45–28:07 | MyPillow challenges post-2016, Lindell’s resistance to canceling | | 35:21–38:39 | Commitment to transparency and business-style governance | | 39:58–42:48 | Lindell details management philosophy; transparency in action | | 42:48–43:47 | Lindell on Minnesota roots and love for the state | | 32:38–51:22 | Bannon’s analysis and praise for Lindell’s candidacy |
| Issue | Lindell’s Position | |------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Government Fraud | Root out corruption, expose fraud, and restore fiscal integrity | | Taxes & Regulation | Lower property taxes, reduce excessive fees, remove red tape | | Education | Make Minnesota’s system “one of the best,” empower parents | | Crime | Stand against crime, support law enforcement | | Business Climate | Support all businesses, foster entrepreneurship | | Election Integrity | Audit voting systems, secure elections, insist on transparency | | Social Services | Focus on addiction recovery, aid to those in need | | Transparency | “Most transparent governor,” open direct communication | | Media | Criticizes lack of media oversight, promises openness | | Community Roots | Deep connection to Minnesota, desire to restore state’s greatness |
This episode centers on Mike Lindell’s dramatic announcement to run for Governor of Minnesota, positioned as a response to what he and Bannon see as rampant government corruption, bureaucratic incompetence, and hostile media. Lindell’s story is presented as a testament to resilience, faith, and business acumen, with a declared mission to bring transparency, accountability, and prosperity back to Minnesota. The conversation is charged with invocations of patriotism, faith, and the “MAGA” ethos, offering a polarizing alternative to establishment politics.
For more details and Lindell’s campaign proposals: mikelindellgov.com