Mike Davis (2:43)

Mandate altered air outputs and calls for.

Stephen K. Bannon (2:47)

A federal law overriding most state rules. Supporters say it's key to counter China.

Mike Davis (2:54)

While critics call in an assault on.

Joe Allen (2:57)

States rights, with legal battles expected in on AI. If you look at who he's with at these events, if you look at who he socializes with, if you look at who he talks to, and if you look who's probably the biggest beneficiary of his policies, it's the AI companies. And there's. There's a certain logic that we do have this technological war that ultimately I think will dictate war itself in terms of who gets to the best AI the fastest. But there's another side to this, and this is the one that the administration has largely ignored, which, which is it's going to have an effect on jobs. If you start to automate things, somebody, at least in the short term, suffers from that. And what you see here is the president, David Sachs, saying, listen, we need unfettered regulation. We need these companies to be able to move as fast as possible. We don't want states to get in the way, despite the fact that we have a federal system, despite the fact that states do have the right to regulate different companies on their terms in their states. The danger there, and this is the one that really puts them at odds with, with maga, with your Steve Bannon's of the world, is that the people who could suffer could be the working class, could be a lot of people who voted for Trump, who might lose their job or who feel threatened by it. And I think that's the bet if they're wrong. And right now, if you looked at as a political candidate, it's as unpopular as a lot of the president's policies on the economy or the inflation. People are very worried about it. And so he is betting not just, not just his presidency on it. I think the Republican brand, because Republicans have had to fall in line.

Stephen K. Bannon (4:26)

First off, will this work? Will President Trump's pardon actually free Tina Peters?

Joe Allen (4:32)

No.

Stephen K. Bannon (4:33)

This is a lawless act.

Joe Allen (4:35)

It's an act of intimidation.

Stephen K. Bannon (4:37)

It has no basis in American law. Our system of government gives states authority.

Joe Allen (4:43)

To run their own criminal justice systems.

Stephen K. Bannon (4:45)

As you noted, there was a trial, there was a conviction by a jury, there's an appeal to, to the state courts. All that is happening under the rule of law. This president doesn't respect the rule of.

Joe Allen (4:57)

Law, but he doesn't have authority to undermine how we operate our judicial system here in Colorado.

Stephen K. Bannon (5:03)

It's ultimately going to be opportunity for a lot of People. But right now, people are saying, I'm afraid that it's going to raise my energy electricity bill because of data centers in some states. I'm already seeing that. I'm worried about my job, I'm worried about surveillance. And they don't yet see or feel that opportunity. And that's where you get Steve Bannon, a lot of the MAGA hardcore saying the Rollogs are leading the President astray and that he's going to be in a bad place for his base and for a lot of America.

Joe Allen (5:42)

Well, the economy is basically three pieces now. It's the have, the have nots and the have lots of. And the have lots are. Anybody who's heavily invested in AI or building one of these companies or an adjacent company, if you're in that batch, Joe was talking about it earlier, that's what's propping up the economy and the s and P500, you're getting rich as hell right now. And if you're in the stock market like Trump is right, the stock market is booming. There's parts of the economy that are extraordinarily strong. Other countries would they envy what we have. But where you see the pain, where you see the angst, is with people who are not heavily invested in the stock market, who aren't benefiting from AI and in fact could suffer from AI. And that is going to be, I think, the topic of next year. I would pay a lot of attention to this. I think it will dominate who ultimately wins the election.

Stephen K. Bannon (6:30)

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going.

Colonel Pete Chambers (6:38)

Medieval on these people.

Stephen K. Bannon (6:40)

I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

Mike Davis (6:51)

And where do people like that go.

Stephen K. Bannon (6:53)

To share the big lie?

Joe Allen (6:55)

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.

Stephen K. Bannon (6:58)

I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. Friday 12th December year overlord 2025. We're going to get into the Tina Peters pardon and how that plays into the effort behind the scenes to get Tina Peters free and out of prison. Also, the let's, let's take it head on the massive loss yesterday in Indianapolis for not only did we not go nine zero? We only got seven two. So we'll address that. What has to happen there to turn that around? But I want to start with artificial intelligence. Mike Davis by phone. Mike, the eo, what the executive order did was set up that you have to have, you're going to have a federal framework right now and a process which David Sachs is essentially going to oversee or run. This is far from defeat because they basically concede your four Cs have to be part of this. I actually think it's got to be even broader than that. But just walk me through your thoughts right now. The EO the morning after as we get to do start the hard work, sir.

Mike Davis (8:22)

So I do think it was a productive first step with this executive order that the tech Bros have understood that they can't just get federal preemption and no federal rules of the road, which means federal amnesty. So that this EO sets up where there's going to be a legislative task force that comes up with legislation that provides federal preemption but addresses the four Cs that we care about, children, conservatives, communities and creators. And so that's a big win for the Article 3 project and the War Room Posse that were very much at the table and driving this process. So that's good. The, you know, some, there are some issues with the eo.

Stephen K. Bannon (9:15)

Hang on, hang on, hang on. Just, just take a second and explain to people the fight, the initial fight was they wanted total amnesty absolutely nothing. And really no federal, no really even regulatory apparatus at all. Just accelerationists. Accelerationists, accelerationists. They, they didn't get preemption because this says there's going to be a federal regulatory apparatus. And they specifically, I think it needs to be broader than the 4Cs, but they very specifically add the 4C's in there to show that that specifically has to be taken care of.

Joe Allen (9:48)

Right.

Stephen K. Bannon (9:49)

So moving in, is this all part of a negotiating process? We've gone from AI amnesty and leading to if it's preemption, it's got to have a federal regulatory apparatus around it because the states quite frankly got to say so here and they're never going to agree to it, correct?

Mike Davis (10:07)

Yeah, that's correct. And that's a major, major win because remember four months ago in the big beautiful bill, at 2 o' clock in the morning, this was headings to victory. It was going to be included, this AI amnesty was going to be included in the big beautiful bill and it ended up going down 99 to 1, including Ted Cruz, the lead sponsor voting against his own legislation. After the War Room Posse went into action and lit up the Senate and let people know that we're not supporting AI amnesty. And so here we are, four months later, there was talk about putting it, putting this AI amnesty into the National Defense Authorization Act. The War Room Posse teams up with the Article 3 project. And we lit up the Senate again and they backed down. And then they are very much going to address the four Cs because they know they have to because we've created that political frame. So they have to address these four Cs or they know they're not going to get federal preemption. So this is a big win for the Article 3 project. It's a big win for the war policy. Frankly, it's a big win for President Trump because this would not have gone well for President Trump if they would have won. These AI Bros would have won in bad amnesty. And then for example, you have these AI platforms with pedal bears that are talking sexually explicitly to kids, pedo bears. The states can't do anything about it. And there's, you know, there's federal preemption and no federal rules of the road that would have ended badly for President Trump. So these four Cs are going to be good for everyone, including especially President Trump.

Stephen K. Bannon (12:08)

I, I think that he, you know, I think he realized after the two face plants, because what Sachs tried to slide into the big beautiful bill and to the NDAA was absolutely open field running. There would be no controls whatsoever over the accelerationists and AI. And I think President Trump and you can see his handprints on this in crafting the thing that you got to have some sort of federal regulatory apparatus. Now let's talk about DeSantis and Newsom. You know, California's put some laws up. I think they got SB53, which is kind of context. That's that really where they want to know where the companies are going, etc. DeSantis has really stuck, I think more to the four Cs. What is going to happen now at the state level? What, what is your. Because DeSantis, these guys are not going to back off, right? A lot of these governors are saying, hey, we have a responsibility here to protect our citizens. And you know, we're not that we don't believe David Sachs in this crowd. Mark Andreessen put the citizens of our state first, particularly children and creators.

Mike Davis (13:08)

Sir, that's just it. I mean, look, I get the point that the tech Bros are making that you have these terrible laws like in Colorado Where I live, where they're essentially, they want WOKE AI, they want DEI AI, they want censorship against conservatives. They actually want their AI machines, their algorithms to, to pump out DEI and WOKE nonsense. And so I guess the tech Bros. Concerns about that, that if you have to, you know, yes, in order to comply with Colorado statute, you have to change your algorithms. And so there it creates a bad outcome. And so I'm not totally opposed to preemption. I get why they, why they would want a, you know, one rule of a road to them, but they have to have a rule of the road. They, I mean they, again, they have to address, at a minimum, they have to address the four Cs in order to make sure. Look, as you know, Steve, we tried this with the Tech Bros. We gave them section 230amnesty, you know, 20 years ago or almost 20 years ago. And look what it led to. It, it led to Google, Amazon, Facebook and Apple. That, that rush competition shuttered small businesses and canceled conservatives and others with whom they disagreed. They became these big tech platforms became Trillion dollar monopolist that did the government's bidding and did the Democrats bidding. We're not going to let that happen again. And so we're going to proceed more cautiously, more smartly with AI, with AI than we did under Section 230. And I think that this led to framework.

Stephen K. Bannon (14:51)

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Mike Davis (17:07)

So, I mean, I think that they finally concede among the AI crowd that in order for them to get preemption, they have to address the four Cs. And so this is total victory for the Article 3 project in the war Room posse. We won. We're at the negotiating table. We're working with President Trump's AI team and we proposed legislation and we're working on that. And so their credit to David Sacks credit and the AI team's credit, they're working with those in good faith. Right. You know, I, I don't, I don't know if I don't think it was malicious what they were doing before. I don't think they were malicious. Maliciously trying to screw us. I just don't think that they, you know, have been around Washington, D.C. or legisl the legislative process very much. And so this is probably a new thing for David Sachs to come to Washington and deal with the swamp. And, you know, I, again, I do think he's. He's trying to work with us in good faith. I don't think he's a bad person. I actually kind of like him. I disagree with him. I disagree with him on all this tech bro stuff, but he's not a bad guy.

Stephen K. Bannon (18:14)

So in the hundred pages of proposals you gave them, your point is? It was too late to incorporate that into what they were trying to do, the NDA, so they stepped back. This process, you're highly confident that. Because the 100 pages is just a start, but it's pretty substantive on the four C's, you believe or you're comfortable telling the audience that some version of this you believe is going to be in there and you're going to have to do it anyway or DeSantis and these guys are going to be taking you to court and slowing it down.

Mike Davis (18:45)

Well, I mean, if they don't address the four Cs, they're not going to get federal preemption because we'll crush them again like we did the last two times. And so, and I told them that, I said, if you want preemption, you're going to address the four Cs, otherwise you're not going to get preemption. So it's, they get it. And I think that unless they have our blessings with the Article 3 project in the war room, I just, I don't think, I don't see any path where any legislation would pass.

Stephen K. Bannon (19:17)

I want to shift to Tina Peters for a second because you've been the viceroy, has been one of the folks working on this also with many, many other people. President Trump did go through the pardon process on a federal level. And of course, immediately I think he had the attorney general, we played it in the cold open saying this is irrelevant, this is state. But it's much more complicated than that, is it not, Mike? And their alternatives people are pursuing right now to make sure that we can free Tina Peters.

Mike Davis (19:45)

It is outrageous what is happening to Tina Peters. She was a county clerk in Colorado again, where I live. And the Democrats, Attorney General Phil Weiser and the Democrats secretary upstate, Janet Griswold, two partisan monsters teamed up with the local DA and this, you know, this, this judge, this local judge, and they put Tina Peters in prison for nine years. And they can come up with any excuse they want for doing this. But it came down to this. Tina Peters questioned election results and these Democrat operatives and their weak Republican rhinos who went along with this, that's what it comes down to. This is a malicious prosecution. It is heartless, it is humane, inhumane. It's just awful. She was a 69 year old woman who they put in prison for nine years. Now they have her in solitary confinement, that she's getting abused by other prisoners, she's being abused in this prison. I mean, they have her in solitary confinement and they're saying they're doing that to protect her. According to Tina Peters. Allies who have reached out to me, it's just, it's sickening what they're doing to her. They, this is effectively a death penalty for Tina Peters because she dared to question election results and It's. It's sick. And so I look, I. There's. The president cannot pardon Tina Peters for state crimes. That has to come from the governor of Colorado. And so, you know, even if this Democrat Governor Jared Pollack, does not want to pardon her, he can at least commute Tina Peters sentence. She suffered enough. She's dying in prison. They're killing her in prison. So that's one thing the war Room Posse can do is go to article3project.org, article number three project.org and one of the action items is to contact Governor Jared Paulus and tell him to show some decency and commute Tina Peters sentence. She suffered enough in prison. We don't need to kill this woman just because they have political disagreement not.

Stephen K. Bannon (22:07)

To get too hard, not to get too far ahead of things. But it is, you know, they took her up on state because they realized in federal, she would, you know, if there was federal charges, ultimately, if we got back in power, you know, she could be pardoned. But Griswold's hands, I mean, Griswold's got dirty hands here at a federal level. Right? Isn't a lot of this about the preservation of records and records about the 2020 stolen election? The process for all of that, and Griswold herself is. Is dirty here. And I'm sure that's being looked at by a number of people.

Mike Davis (22:41)

So, sir, Griswold is a malicious artisan slob and she should really be ashamed of herself. I don't think she's capable of shame because she's such a terrible human being. But what Jenna Griswold did here to Tina Peters is. It's monstrous. Jenna Griswold is a partisan slob and that. It's disgusting what she's done here. And yes, we should. I'm very happy that the Attorney general, Pam Bondi, and Harmeet Dillon, the head of the Civil Rights Division, opened up an investigation on the Colorado prison system. And that's almost certainly going to include the mistreatment of Tina Peters in these Colorado prisons.

Stephen K. Bannon (23:33)

Mike, one last topic and thank you for taking time away to join us by phone. But you saw what happened in Indianapolis last night. But this is inextricably linked with the progress we're making on getting legislation and nominees. We got Mark Walker, who's going to be on the show right after you bounce, that's been, I think, eight or nine months and hasn't been confirmed yet. This issue about blue slips. And I know Senator Grassley is working through this Right now. But this issue about blue slips and the issue about the filibuster, because, and I think President Trump has been adamant about this, unless some things change, he's not going to be able to implement his plan. And you got both the blue slips for the judges and really for the U.S. attorneys. And you've got this, you got the situation, the filibuster. Can you take the blue slips first and explain what it is to the audience and why President wants changes and why he's so upset about it?

Mike Davis (24:30)

Look, and I get that. I've been fighting with people all night on AX and all morning on this issue. I hate blue slips. I got rid of blue slips for circuit judges when I was the Chief Counsel for nominations eight years ago. I worked for Senator Grassley. We got rid of blue slips for circuit judges and so that's how President Trump was able to confirm a record number of circuit judges. I tried to get rid of blue slips for U.S. attorney, U.S. district Court, U.S. marshal, but there was way too much opposition in the Senate to getting rid of those, including from too many Republicans. And that's the issue. What angers me is when people are blaming this on Chuck Grassley, my old boss. This is not a Chuck Grassley problem, it is a Senate Republican problem. And so what needs to happen is if we want to get rid of these blue slips for US Attorney, US District Court US Marshal John Thune needs to work with the Trump White House and round up 50, 60 signatures, at least 50 signatures from Senate Republicans, including every Senate Judiciary Republican, saying that they will vote to confirm U.S. attorney, U.S. district Court, U.S. marshal nominees who lack blue slips. Right. That is, that, that is going to be a very tall order because here's the problem. Too many Senate Republicans do not want to give up their blue slip. So it's but to blame Grassley for this is what really pisses me off, because it's not Grassley's fault. It's. He doesn't have the votes. If they don't have. If you have Senator John Kennedy, for example, or Senator Thom Tillis saying they're going to vote against these nominees who like blue slips, then Grassley can't get him out of the committee.

Stephen K. Bannon (26:19)

But by the way, just for the audience, blue slips is the way that senators in their states for, for US Attorneys, US Marshals and certain judges can actually override the President's choice. Correct.

Mike Davis (26:34)

It's this. I hate blue slips. It's a BS 100 year old bus tradition in the Senate where home state senators get an Absolute veto over the President's pick for U.S. attorney, U.S. district Court, U.S. marshal. And I, and again, I say this somewhat jokingly, but it's not really a joke. These home state senators do not want to give up the ability to hand select the U.S. attorney who could prosecute them, the U.S. district Court Judge who would oversee the trial and the US Marshal who had escort them to prison. Again, I hate blue slips. We need to get rid of them. But if we want to be smart and actually when we should actually direct our energy to fixing the problem instead of directing our energy to dividing the Republican Party and going after President Trump's most effective Senate ally, Chuck Grassley.

Stephen K. Bannon (27:31)

We got about 30 seconds. You're a traditionalist, but you agree that we got to get rid of the filibuster and we have to do it now.

Mike Davis (27:37)

There's no question we need to get rid of the filibuster for legislation. We got rid of the filibuster for nominations. Now you can get nominees confirmed with, you know, 51 votes or 50 votes in the BP. We need to, we need to do the same thing with legislation. It currently requires 50 votes to pass most legislation. I would say to Senate Republicans, don't be stupid here. The next time Democrats control the White House, House and Senate, they are going to nuke the legislative filibuster. They're going to add states like Puerto Rico, like D.C. they're going to pass the Supreme Court. It's going to be good bias America if we, if we let that happen. Let's beat them to it. So, so they can't control all three.

Stephen K. Bannon (28:20)

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Mark Walker (33:05)

Yes, in early April now more than eight months ago. And the position is Ambassador at large for international religious freedom. This was a position written up by Republican legislation. They dragged Bill Clinton kicking and screaming in 1998. He did sign it into law. I would be the seventh ambassador for such, which is. There's an intelligence component to this as well. But our job is to advocate for those people, whether it's Syria, whether it's in China, the Middle Eastern countries, Africa. We've seen this recently. A lot of the persecution, targeting, blasphemy laws, even, even rape, pillaging and killing of these folks. And specifically most of it driven by Islamist groups, whether it's Boko Haram, ISWA Al Shabaab and others. But yes, this is important position. It lists this position as the principal advisor to both the Secretary of State and to President Trump on all things that are international religious matters. And as we know, a lot of these wars are driven by these false religions. And so, so yes, we're, we've been anxious about it. We've traveled back and forth to D.C. nearly every week, meeting with senators and, and a lot of support that we do have across the board from cabinet members, from senators, but we've not been able to get the hearing quite yet. And to say the least, it's been frustrating.

Stephen K. Bannon (34:20)

Well, let's go through your background for a second. You're very respected and it's not like you're a bomb thrower. This, I think, was what you are, someone that's very well known. You've got a very defined track record. You've been a man of action and delivered a lot. You're respected by people on both sides. The President thinks the world of you. This is why I think confuses people. You've got all the credentials, you check all the boxes. You're a safe pair of hands. You've got a lot of support. So why are you on the war room on 12 December, on a Friday, heading up to the Christmas holidays, and you haven't had a hearing yet, so we can get you confirmed and get you to work on. All over the world, this issue is blowing up everywhere. So I think that's what confuses people. What's been the problem?

Mark Walker (35:13)

Yeah, I think it comes down sometimes we don't have what they call the blue slip for specifically nominees. That's more in the legal side with judges and appointments, but they do have sometimes these gentlemen agreements where if you have one senator that's maybe pushing back or kind of giving a wink and nod to the chairman of this case, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, they do slow play that out. We've got great support. John Thune's been great, the entire leadership. We have unanimous support across the leadership in the Senate, those on the committee as well. It's just that we're trying to get through and in fact, this is breaking. I've not revealed this yet to anyone. Had a great call with President Trump last night, who gave me his word he's working on it. I don't expect him to be able to track hundreds of appointments or nominations, but he was gracious to take a call and I kind of gave an update and, and we're looking forward to him having, having him help push. But the point I think you're making, Steve, is that the president shouldn't have to be taking time to trying to singularly go out and try to find each nomination and push through and then go get another one. When he names these people, he's vetted them, and trust me, you have to go through all kinds of divestations. You have to go through all these security clearances that's been done since the summer. And for President Trump to have to weigh back into this, it's unfair to him because it's pulling away from something else. This is, I believe, a very important position. We have tons of nonprofit groups that are out there pushing, writing letters to the president, everything else. So we're anxious to get started. Unfortunately, it looks like we may have to go through a renomination process because the last hearing, I believe, took place yesterday. But we're still fighting for this. And yes, we're not historically, I guess, considered a bomb thrower, but I'm proud to have the highest pro Trump policy scorecard when I served in Congress there, and even serving and doing so there in leadership. But don't let the ministry background fool you. If we need to scrap or fight or stand up for what we believe in, we're not afraid to do so.

Stephen K. Bannon (37:10)

Congressman, you've also been a team player. I mean, you've taken a couple. Not just have you supported President Trump's agenda. There's been some, you know, people have asked, hey, can you do this? You've got a track record of putting the MAGA movement, putting the country, putting your state of North Carolina before yourself. I mean, you've got a demonstrable track record. So this is what I don't understand. Why are we the president who's got the weight of the world on the shoulders and he knows you very well, it's a slot he considers important. The reason we know he considers it important, you were in his first batch, you know, back eight months ago when everything was going on. We're flooding the zone. It's Days of Thunder. He selected you to do this. He wanted somebody to get on with it. You know, he solved, you know, eight wars. We're going to have Erik Prince on here in a moment to talk about how difficult it is with President Trump. They're trying to denigrate what he's done, how some of these countries are at each other's throats. Right.

Mike Davis (38:06)

And.

Stephen K. Bannon (38:09)

Your billet would be to make sure that the interest in faith based folks, their interests are come to the table and you've taken incoming for the team. How can we possibly be in a position, I mean, there's got to be somebody to blame for this. How could we possibly be in the position to have the president, United States now with everything he's got going on, refocus on a guy he nominated that he thought important enough that he do it at the beginning of the administration. Now we're in December, at the end of the year, he's not done. And now we're going to go through potentially another process, sir.

Mark Walker (38:42)

Yeah, I think it comes down to, without kind of beating around the bush, a hometown home state senator that needs a little encouragement from President Trump that I shared last night. And look, sometimes personality conflicts or what have you, and I get that if your feelings were hurt in a campaign three and a half, four years ago, but here's the thing. The fact that somebody would think that they should have the wherewithal to push back on President Trump's agenda when he's got the weight of the world on him, when he's taking flak every single day from the left, they're trying to ruin him. You even mentioned, as far as assassination attempts and everything else, we ought to be doing everything we can. Much like the Democrats. When Joe Biden puts somebody forward, they line up immediately to support their president because they've got bigger fish to, to fry, bigger fights to take on. So we hope, even though we've got, we feel like 50, 51 senator support, in fact, we may even have a Democrat or two that ends up supporting us. We're working on that as well. That's yet to be seen. But the bigger thing is I don't want to be so much focused about me when each and every week after President Trump named me this or nominated me, this last week alone, I met with people from Ethiopia, from Burma, from, from Iraq, from Syria. These folks are begging out. In fact, I was in London recently when a sweet lady named Baroness Emma Nicholson came up and she put her hand on my chest and she said, congressman, she said, america is the last hope for religious expression. And she said, the reason why is because America is the only country where it's written in your law, please stand up and advocate for the people that no longer or do not have that ability to be able to stand up for themselves. So we're excited about taking on this role, to be that beacon of hope, to be that light, to be an advocate, to be the President Trump's principal advisor on this matter. But we've got to get through this hearing to be able to, to get up and moving. And, and hopefully we are, hopefully we're getting closer every day.

Stephen K. Bannon (40:44)

Is anything, what, what can this audience do? Because obviously this is top of mind. The religious aspect is top of mind for the activists that watch War Room and are part of the War Room posse. What, any guidance for us, anything we can help. Is this actually going to have to go now through a renomination process?

Mark Walker (41:03)

There are some technical procedures that, that a senator can reach out to the cloakroom. I won't get into the weeds, but, but probably so, because the Democrats will use this to their advantage by, by, by, by being blocked now, Democrats can reject any kind of extension of forcing President Trump to once again have to go through renomination process. So we're now probably looking at January. But to answer your question, we'd love for your audience to reach out to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and encourage them to have A hearing on, on the ambassador for International Religious Freedom.

Stephen K. Bannon (41:36)

We will take care of that and we will do that. Sir, what's your, what are your coordinates? Social media? How do people catch up with what you're working on and everything you're going to be doing as the ambassador because that will happen.

Mark Walker (41:48)

Thank you, Steve. Appreciate the opportunity. Appreciate this is important to you. In the audience, that's rep. MARK Walker. Rep. MARK walker, they can look us up on all different social media handles. We're keeping people up to date on this and it's an honor to be president. Trump has asked me to do this. We're ready to fight. We're ready to get out there and happy to do so and grateful that you would take the time and let us share our story a little bit.

Stephen K. Bannon (42:11)

No, it's obviously very important. It's very important to this audience. I know it's very important to the president and it also gets in this situation of why we've had this, why we had this morass. Congressman, thank you so much for coming on and we're going to keep up to date on this and have you back on. Thank you, sir.

Mark Walker (42:25)

Thanks a lot, Steve. Take care.

Stephen K. Bannon (42:28)

Here's the thing. It's not just the president has to get involved here right again after he's already nominated a guy. These people put their lives on hold. They put their entire lives on hold. And the in the vetting process is extraordinary. The financial vetting process, any conflicts, all your background. The vetting process is just absolutely a grind. And this has been in process for eight months. President Trump wanted this done right away. He wouldn't have put this in the first wave of his nominations if it had not been. And this gets to the point of people working with President Trump in a horrible environment, a horrible environment. President Trump needs as much support as possible, particularly from the Republican establishment. And you're seeing in the Senate where these things are being blocked. You know, the blue slips, filibuster, the nominees, the, the tariff, the tariff deal for the people. Short break, Back in a moment. If you could make one holiday wish, would you wish to be free from your credit card and other debt? Let's see if we can help you with that. If we could give yourself one gift this holiday season, would it be finally to get some relief from your credit card and other debt? I might have a solution. Here's why. Now's the time to make a move. This time of year, credit card and loan companies close out their books. They clean up past due accounts. They sell or write off the debt to clear their books. That means if you have credit card debt and unpaid bills, lenders may be more open to negotiating and settling your account before you're in. That means right now, and I mean right now, you may actually have leverage. And Done With Debt knows how to use this to your advantage. They monitor lender trends and understand the year end pressure on creditors. They use that timing to negotiate hard on your behalf. Now's the time to get out from under crushing debt and interest payments without bankruptcy or taking on new loans. Done With Debt goes to work for you Month one with one clear goal, to reduce your total debt and leave you with more money every month. Get started now because your leverage may disappear at the end of the year. Chat with a Done with debt specialist@donewithdebt.com that's done with debt.com donewithdet.com do it today. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. We're going to do more artificial intelligence in the next hour. Also, Eric Prince is going to join us. Talk about what President Trump is up against when he's doing these, trying to put these peace deals together and where he's trying to guide people to peace like in Ukraine and Middle east and guess what, in Venezuela. So we'll get to all that. Home title lock's got a special 14 day free. You get to check out their $1 million triple lock protection. Every dream you've ever had is in that home. Also 90% of your net worth. It is essentially your savings account for retirement. Make sure with advances in AI and cyber, rogue lawyers, rogue accountants, rogue relatives that nobody can get their hands on it. Nobody. Hometitleock.com, promo code Steve, you get a 14 day free trial on the triple lock protection, which basically gives you 24 hour monitoring. You get alerts if anybody's messing with your with your title in the rudimentary system we have throughout this country. And if all else fails, they'll put up a million dollars for legal and all else to make sure that they're in the fight. Shoulder to shoulder with you to get your title back. But don't let that happen. Hometitleock.com promo code Steve, talk to Natalie Dominguez. She's the head of education over there. Came on a couple years ago on our recommendation. She's done an amazing job, remember, with the war room, every time we get a sponsor, you get access to the senior people that run the company and they'll spend as much time as you need to explain their products and services. So Go take advantage of it today. Colonel P. Chambers joins us. Colonel. Colonel, we're talking today about the Republican establishment fighting President Trump. His biggest battles right now are not even with the radical Democrats, although he's hammering those guys every day. It's really the Republican establishments is trying to thwart him at every turn. You've announced, sir, I would say charitably, a long shot bid to be the governor of Texas. Now, number one, what's the problem with Abbott, who's been there for like a half a century, and why do you think it's necessary to announce, you know, step out of your life, all the good you've been doing to say, hey, I want to take this guy on and I think I can do a better job. And that better job needs to start now, Sir.

Colonel Pete Chambers (47:33)

I believe that completely, sir. And you know, excuse me, I'm on the campaign trail. It's a little raspy. But understand this. The bottom line up front for me is that this nation is in the throes of a color revolution. And if you, if we haven't seen it, we need to, as a watchman, announce it. That's what I do. If I'm a forcing function in this state, then I'll be a forcing function. But when we put our name in the hat, we went up against that establishment to include folks from my side, the Republican side, and that's okay. We have no problem with that because Texas is the target, as the domino of the flyover states. It is the target. And I know too much. I've witnessed too many sentinel events on Operation Lone Star, on that border, on the COVID mission, watching the conditions being set for disenfranchisement, destabilization, and then currently where we are in a, in a fight amongst our own party and we got to do like Braveheart, we've got to unite the clans. We can do it. Grassroots, if you will. We the people, we can do it. But it's, it's a long shot. This is straight up, you know, Normandy. We're at point to hawk. We're going straight up the hill.

Stephen K. Bannon (48:44)

Colonel, explain, let's go to take a specific example. Because you had Biden and you've had the Republican established for years. But why did Abbott and other senior Republican officials in state government, in the state legislature, why did they not use the powers that they have, which are substantial, to close the border during those horrible years of President Trump in the wilderness when 12 to 15 to 20 million illegal alien invaders came across? And a lot of half, at least half of Those are more through the great, your beloved state of Texas, sir.

Colonel Pete Chambers (49:19)

Yes sir, absolutely. On Operation Lone Star, when we kicked it off for me three years ago, getting to the border, we could have stopped that then. We as a state could have stopped that then. That was under the Biden administration. The border was wide open. 12, 500 a week came across 1254 miles of Texas border. Now for me as the guy that's looking for a needle and a stack of needles down there, not only the task force surgeon, but a liaison to special operations, when I called for specifically a designation of fto, Foreign terrorist organization with my team to the governor's staff, it fell on deaf ears. And I get it. We, we sometimes have to follow, we do have to follow the orders of our civilian leaders. However, when we advise these things, we don't do it because we believe or don't believe anything other than the facts. And Operation Lone Star, unfortunately. And I, and I'm, I'm going to tell the honest truth here was an optic versus reality which was we had literally 30,000 in my estimate, bad actors come into the state of Texas alone. This is under trend Aragua CCP actors and other born actors, especially from the Middle east, where now we're looking at a Sharia problem in the state of Texas to include two Sharia law courts up in Dallas. And it cannot happen. It cannot be under the state or federal constitution.

Stephen K. Bannon (50:44)

Is, is, is Governor Abbott getting the joke by declaring a Muslim brotherhood and care a terrorist organization? Or is this just more, is this another Lone Star? Is this just more optics?

Colonel Pete Chambers (50:56)

Yes, sir. And you, you have Brian Harrison on frequently and he's, he gets it and he understands it. There has been a declaration, if you will, of a foreign terrorist organization without teeth. And when you say that you've outlawed Sharia law, which is what the governor has said, when you look at the fine print, because the devil's always in the details when you look at the fine print. It outlawed certain practices of that not. The word Sharia is not even in the law. It's not even in the strongly worded message. And so we've got to get past that because somebody asked me last night, what are you going to do different than Abbott? Here's what I said. I said, well, I'm not going to lie to you for 11 years. Right? I'm a term limit guy anyway. So I'm going to come in, we're going to fix the problem because this is the time of cartoon character legislators and, and, and this Hegelian dialectic and optics is over. We need a wartime governor. This is a, this is a soft war, but it's, it's a hybrid and threat and it is a color revolution.

Stephen K. Bannon (51:53)

Colonel, can you hang on for a second? We'll hold you through the break. Colonel Pete Chambers is with us. He's running for the Republican nomination in the great state of Texas against Governor Abbott. The incumbent been around for a long time, Erik Prince is going to join us about the heavy lift President Trump has throughout the globe. We're also going to go back to artificial intelligence. Joe, Joe Allen and others are going to bring us, get back to us and hopefully get Ben Hornworm pretty packed in the second hour. We're going to leave you with the right stuff. Pete Chambers has got it, Mark Walker's got it. Eric Prince has got it. The question is, does the Republican establishment got it? I don't know. They're fighting President Trump every second of every day. What happened yesterday in Indiana is a disgrace. Full stop. Short commercial break Back in the War in about two minutes. Holidays are here, and while the rest of the world follows the script written by Big Pharma, real Americans are taking control of their own health. You do not need permission from a corporate medical machine to care for yourself. That is where all family pharmacy comes in. It is simple. Go to allfamilypharmacy.com Bannon that is one word. Allfamilypharmacy.com Place your order online and a licensed physician reviews it. Once approved, your medication is shipped directly to your home. Whether it's ivermectin, antibiotics or your everyday medications, they have you covered. Everything is handled quickly, privately, securely. This holiday season, don't let big pharma or the government tell you how to stay healthy. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com Bannon and save 10% with code BANNON10. Take control of your health. Stay independent, stay free and stay healthy.