Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room Episode 4995
Title: Suing Colorado For The Freedom Of Tina Peters; Send In The National Guard To Savannah
Date: December 13, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Overview
This episode centers on two main themes: the legal and political battle to free Tina Peters, an embattled election official in Colorado, and growing concerns over public safety and governance in Savannah, Georgia, following a high-profile acid attack. Steve Bannon, alongside legal experts, political commentators, and on-the-ground reporters, explores these stories as manifestations of larger conflicts: the ongoing “war for freedom,” perceived threats to democracy, and alleged systemic failures at both local and federal levels. The episode also includes detailed discussions about central bank maneuvering, the Federal Reserve’s resistance to Trump-aligned economic policies, and the global financial order.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Resistance to Authoritarianism and the Role of Civil Courage
- Opening Reflections:
- Bannon references historian Tim Snyder’s call to resist authoritarian tendencies:
“Do not obey in advance... be calm when the unthinkable arrives.” (00:00)
- Bannon references historian Tim Snyder’s call to resist authoritarian tendencies:
- Rachel Maddow on Protests and Language:
- Discusses how authoritarian regimes criminalize dissent and why movements require positive language and legal counterattacks.
“We have to have the positive language… we have to help people be heroes… we have to go on the offensive legally.” – Rachel Maddow (01:29)
- Discusses how authoritarian regimes criminalize dissent and why movements require positive language and legal counterattacks.
- Community Activist on ICE Raids:
- Describes grassroots strategies to protect undocumented communities in Chicago, including distributing whistles and legal rights cards:
“We have to educate our community because education is key… if you’re educated, they’re not going to do much to you.” (05:45)
- Describes grassroots strategies to protect undocumented communities in Chicago, including distributing whistles and legal rights cards:
2. The Tina Peters Case: Legal Battle and Political Symbolism
Background & Developments
- Steve Bannon introduces lawyer John Case for an update on Tina Peters, a Colorado election official: “Can you just get us up to speed first on where we stand with the case and particularly how Tina is doing in prison.” (08:28)
- John Case (Tina Peters’ Denver Lawyer) Updates:
- Describes physically delivering Trump’s pardon to the correctional facility, which Colorado authorities refused to honor, citing jurisdiction. (09:38)
- Argues that federal law required preservation of election records, which Tina Peters attempted to do; the destruction of digital records forms the crux of her defense.
- Alleged Venezuelan Connection:
“Experts… say that it shows fourteen vulnerabilities in the voting system and it shows that there was likely manipulation in the 2020 election by some outside bad actor… Dominion software used throughout the United States and throughout Colorado is a variation of the Smartmatic software that was used to rig elections in Venezuela.” – John Case (13:05) - Obstruction at Trial:
- Peters’ defense was barred from presenting evidence about her intent and the federal obligation, with the judge ruling it “irrelevant.”
“He said it would confuse the jury if they knew that the machines potentially could be rigged…” – John Case (22:18)
- Peters’ defense was barred from presenting evidence about her intent and the federal obligation, with the judge ruling it “irrelevant.”
- Future Legal Strategy:
- The refusal to recognize the pardon “will have to be litigated” and may proceed as part of the appellate case, with another court date set for January 14, 2026. (23:58)
Conditions in Prison and Public Support
- Bannon and Case on Peters’ Treatment:
- “It sounds like she’s not only a political prisoner but… essentially a political prisoner who’s being tortured in a prison in the United States of America, sir.” – Steve Bannon (25:44)
- Clarification: Peters is subjected to solitary confinement “for her own protection” due to risks within the inmate population and because of information she provided about correctional staff. (25:58–26:54)
- She is held in Colorado’s maximum security prison for women.
- Call to Action:
- Listeners are prompted to support Tina Peters via tinapeters.us.
3. Crisis in Savannah: Public Safety & The Call for National Guard Intervention
- Detailed News Coverage (Reported at 30:19):
- A woman, Ashley Wasilewski, suffered severe chemical burns from an unprovoked acid attack in Forsyth Park, Savannah.
- Todd Woods (Georgia Record News Site):
- Reports a spike in violence in Savannah, including shootings, home invasions, and gang activity.
- “The people in Savannah are calling for the President or somebody to send in the National Guard… It’s a combination of criminal element plus illegal aliens overwhelming the city.” (32:50)
- Breaking News:
“The District Attorney in Savannah is drafting a letter for the President of the United States… calling for the National Guard to be deployed to Savannah.” (32:52) - Alleged Official Inaction:
- Woods criticizes state officials, alleging globalist control and purposeful neglect that allows crime to spiral.
- Reports a spike in violence in Savannah, including shootings, home invasions, and gang activity.
- Public Response:
- Describes public fear, outrage, and the need for local and national media attention.
- “We got the story national… it has to be paid attention to because this is… where this goes, it leads to what’s happening in New York and in other cities across the country…” – Todd Woods (36:05)
- Describes public fear, outrage, and the need for local and national media attention.
- Severity of Attack:
- “50% of her body, her phone and clothes were melting… can’t imagine the pain this woman’s going through…” – Todd Woods (35:42)
4. Economic “Deep State”: Federal Reserve Maneuvers and Trump’s Economic Agenda
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David Malpass (Former World Bank President/Treasury Official):
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Discusses how the Federal Reserve recently reappointed 11 regional bank presidents, effectively “Trump-proofing” the institution.
“They just locked in a majority really for the next five years… it’s the deep state really controlling things…” (39:32) -
Explains that these moves make it difficult for a new administration aligned with Trump’s nationalist economic vision to shift Fed policy.
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Criticizes the Fed's timing on rate cuts, arguing it costs taxpayers and is used to deliberately resist pro-growth policies.
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Compares U.S. central bank actions to global trends, referencing growing international “deep state” influence via central banks and financial institutions:
“Globalism, I think, is still run amok. All these institutions are getting bigger, and I’m not sure the president’s aware of that.” – David Malpass (50:43)
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Policy Recommendations:
- Malpass urges Trump to push for "supply side price rule monetary policy" and to confront both Fed and IMF/World Bank entrenchment in globalist economic models.
5. Geopolitics: Europe Freezes Russian Assets
- Steve Bannon and Ben Harnwell (Europe Correspondent):
- Relays breaking news: “Viktor Orban says the EU has crossed the Rubicon” by moving to freeze and potentially seize nearly $300 billion of Russian state assets.
- Warns this could escalate global financial instability, accelerate “de-dollarization,” and trigger severe international backlash:
- “You take their money… that's basically a big part of their cash net worth… they’ve said it’s an act of war.” – Steve Bannon (52:40)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Civil Courage:
“Be calm when the unthinkable arrives… it lives in my brain every day and it lives in the world as unforgettable guidance for anybody who does have a tyrannical nightmare unfolding where they live.” – Host (00:32) -
Legal Offense:
“We have to go on the offensive legally… we should be going on the offense as well because like the things…” – Rachel Maddow (02:50) -
Whistle as Resistance:
“You can’t turn off the whistle… we had a caravan of twelve people and we went around to the temp agencies and gave the employers or employees ‘know your right’ cards…” – Community Activist (04:06) -
Machine Manipulation Claims:
“The Dominion software used throughout the United States and throughout Colorado is a variation of the Smartmatic software that was used to rig elections in Venezuela.” – John Case (13:05) -
Deep State Entrenchment at the Fed:
“They just locked in a majority really for the next five years… it’s the deep state really controlling things.” – David Malpass (39:32) -
On Savannah’s State of Emergency:
“We have a district attorney in Savannah who’s… calling for the National Guard to be deployed… it’s a coordinated attack…” – Todd Woods (32:52)
Timestamps of Important Segments
- Opening on Authoritarianism & Civil Disobedience: 00:00–01:29
- Rachel Maddow on Media and Legal Tactics: 01:29–03:35
- Community Organizing Against ICE: 03:50–05:45
- The Tina Peters Legal Update (John Case): 09:38–28:35
- Savannah Acid Attack & the Call for National Guard (Todd Woods): 30:19–36:25
- Federal Reserve & Economic “Deep State” (David Malpass): 37:34–51:12
- EU Freezes Russian Assets / Geopolitical Consequences: 51:16–53:52
Additional Resources & Calls to Action
- Support Tina Peters: tinapeters.us
- Georgia Updates on Savannah: georgiarecord.com
- Follow David Malpass for Economic Commentary: @DavidRMalpass (X/Twitter)
Conclusion
This episode of Bannon’s War Room weaves together frontline stories of legal warfare, grassroots activism, urban security crises, and grand-scale financial maneuvering. Through both personal testimony and policy analysis, the program presents an ongoing battle against perceived authoritarian overreach, elite “deep state” actors, and systemic violence – urging listeners to stay engaged, informed, and mobilized.
