Episode 4999: Trump Continues To Go After Cartel; Was The Brown University Shooting Targeting Christians

Summary

Bannon’s War Room: Episode 4999

Date: December 16, 2025
Title: Trump Continues To Go After Cartel; Was The Brown University Shooting Targeting Christians

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Overview

This episode centers around the Trump administration’s aggressive actions on border security and drug cartels, particularly the recent executive order designating fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction. The discussion also covers the rise in anti-Semitism and targeted violence against Christians and conservatives, with particular focus on the Brown University shooting and potential political motivations behind it. The episode further explores the global impact of right-wing movements, the media landscape in Hispanic communities, and concludes with an analysis of U.S. fiscal and monetary policy headwinds for economic growth in 2026.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Trump’s Executive Actions: Fentanyl and Cartels (00:00–05:40)

• Donald Trump opens by highlighting military successes at the border and the legal designation of drug cartels as enemies of the state.

  • Declares military and border patrol operations have drastically cut illegal crossings.
  • Announces the end of “catch and release” and a policy of immediate deportation or imprisonment for offenders.
  • “We're formally classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction, which is what it is. No bomb does what this is doing.” (04:19, Trump)

• Tom Holman (former ICE Director) offers firsthand testimony on the impact:

  • Shares recent border visits, stating: "Hundreds upon hundreds of miles of border. I didn't see one illegal alien. Not a single one... No one has done more than President Trump. What he has done is gave us the most secure border in the history of this nation. Hard stop." (01:32)
  • Critiques the Biden administration, calling it “inhumane,” and praises Trump for saving lives by reducing border crossings, trafficking, and related crimes.

• Trump criticizes Colorado’s governance and highlights political prisoners, segueing into broader claims of election fraud (04:16–05:40).

2. Rising Bigotry and Anti-Semitism (05:40–07:40)

• Cash Bondino discusses global increases in all forms of bigotry, focusing on anti-Semitism and its links to far-right and anti-immigrant rhetoric.
  • “Jews are not responsible, regardless of what they think about Israel, they are not responsible for what Israel does.” (06:05, Bondino)
• Bannon and panel reflect on attacks against minorities (Chinese Americans during COVID, Muslims post-9/11), emphasizing the need for equal treatment regardless of ethnicity or religion.

3. War on Multiple Fronts: Domestic and International Threats (09:10–14:10)

• John Solomon (Investigative journalist) underscores the non-traditional warfare America is facing:

  • “America is currently at war, not in the traditional sense... but our enemies are trying to create death and destruction on our soil. They do it with fentanyl... They do it with terror attacks.” (09:11)
  • Highlights a foiled left-wing terror plot in Los Angeles and links between drug cartels, terrorism, and foreign actors (China, Venezuela, Mexico).

• Solomon reports on what he describes as ongoing corruption and resistance within federal law enforcement (the “deep state”) regarding Clinton investigations, laying out timelines and recent grand jury developments.

  • “Inside the FBI, 16, 17, 18, it kept getting shut down. Andy McCabe kept shutting it down, kept putting pressure there. Shut it down.” (13:03)

4. The Hispanic Right and Media Landscape (16:31–26:37)

• Javier Negray, a Spanish-language correspondent, interviews Trump and discusses the alleged impact of MAGA influence in Latin America and Spain.
  • Trump: "We just had a good one in Honduras... in Chile, the person I endorsed who was not leading ended up winning quite easily." (16:44)
  • Javier explains that left-leaning mainstream Spanish-language media in the US (Univision, Telemundo, CNN Español) misrepresents Trump to Hispanic voters and is funded by globalists and Democratic-aligned interests.
    • “So it's really important to show how the reality is in the Hispanic community… we have to fight against [fake news].” (20:01, Javier Negray)
• Discussion of new conservative Spanish-language media channels as a corrective voice.

5. Fentanyl as Weapon of Mass Destruction: International Collaboration (27:21–32:48)

• Oscar Blue Ramirez, reporting from Mexico, supports Trump’s policy as a major step:
  • “It is a great accomplishment and I hope that every single country and the whole continent recognizes this… as a weapon of mass destruction.” (27:26)
  • Calls for “immediate pressure to the Mexican government,” exposing corrupt politicians, and acting against fentanyl labs.

6. Alleged Targeted Violence Against Christians and Conservatives: Brown University Shooting (34:48–41:35)

• Steve Bannon and Caroline Wren discuss new details and disturbing patterns in the Brown University shooting, noting the victim, Ella Cook, was a prominent conservative and Christian leader on campus.
  • Wren: “Less than 1% identify as conservative... and somehow the vice president of the College Republicans died in the shooting. It makes it very hard to believe that this was not targeted.” (35:48)
  • Criticizes lack of transparency and urgency in the investigation, raising suspicion about media disinterest and possible political motivations.
  • Bannon: “It’s just too random, right? It just doesn’t make sense. Maybe it is, but we gotta get there.” (37:56)
  • Wren contextualizes as part of broader political violence against right-wing figures and Christians nationwide.

7. Economic Headwinds: Demand-Side vs. Supply-Side Policy (41:35–50:38)

• David Malpass (former World Bank President) analyzes the Federal Reserve’s entrenched demand-side economics.
  • “The system is set up with models... they think growth causes inflation. So they ought to tamp down growth with high interest rates—that's getting locked in... It fights against growth.” (42:36)
  • Warns this will hinder potential economic expansion under Trump’s policies, creating a persistent headwind into 2027.
  • Advocates for a return to supply-side tax cuts and monetary policy favoring growth and lower interest rates.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Trump on Fentanyl:
  "We're formally classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction, which is what it is. No bomb does what this is doing." (04:19)

• Tom Holman’s Testimony:
  "Hundreds upon hundreds of miles of border. I didn't see one illegal alien. Not a single one... Most secure border in the history of this nation. Hard stop." (01:32)

• Cash Bondino on Bigotry:
  "Jews are not responsible, regardless of what they think about Israel, they are not responsible for what Israel does any more than a Chinese American... is responsible for what China does." (06:05)

• Solomon on Deep State:
  "Inside the FBI...it kept getting shut down. Andy McCabe kept shutting it down, kept putting pressure there. Shut it down." (13:03)

• Javier Negray on Hispanic Media:
  "We have to fight against fake news. The best place to do it is Real America's Voice en Español every Sunday." (21:34)

• Oscar Blue Ramirez on Action Steps:
  "Immediate pressure to the Mexican government...and ultimately at the end of the day, more pressure to dismantle these fentanyl laboratories that has been growing in Mexico." (30:39)

• Caroline Wren on Brown University Shooting:
  "It makes it very hard to believe that this was not targeted. And why we don't know much about this also is because no one in the media is talking about it." (35:48) "There's a pattern here and it is a pattern of left wing violence against conservatives, against Christians, and we have got to stop it." (39:17)

• Malpass on Economic Models:
  "We want the short rates down for small businesses, but we also want the long rates down for mortgages. And that's not going to happen under their current models." (47:24)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00–01:29 — Trump outlines military successes and anti-cartel actions
• 01:29–04:16 — Tom Holman on border effects and humanitarian issues
• 05:40–07:40 — Anti-Semitism, global bigotry, and ethnic scapegoating discussion
• 09:10–14:10 — John Solomon: Internal and external threats, FBI/DOJ deep state
• 16:31–26:37 — Spanish-language conservative media, global MAGA movement
• 27:21–32:48 — Fentanyl designation, Mexican government, Hispanic conservative media
• 34:48–41:35 — Brown University shooting: details, suspicions, conservative targets
• 41:35–50:38 — Malpass on Fed resistance to pro-growth economic policy

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Final Thoughts

This episode pivots between the international (cartels, foreign policy, global right movements) and the domestic (border security, targeted violence against conservatives), meshing policy analysis with claims of cultural warfare. The panel emphasizes the supposed effectiveness of Trump-era strategies on border security and crime, voices frustration with alleged left/media bias, and calls for an expanded conservative presence in Spanish-language media to counter Democratic narratives. The tragic events at Brown University are framed within a broader narrative of anti-conservative violence, demanding higher law enforcement attention and stricter accountability from authorities. The episode closes with a warning about enduring “deep state” and economic institutional resistance to the populist-conservative agenda.

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Transcript

[Donald Trump]

Help of our great service members. We've stopped the invasion in its tracks. And we're dismantling the cartels very rapidly. And they are being declared enemies of the United States of America. They have been so declared, legally declared. More than 25,000 warriors have served in this historic operation. It is indeed an incredible, an historic operation. And we've never done anything so effectively. And we've had a lot of victories. They've spent night and day enduring scorching hot and bitter cold. And they've given up their holidays and their weekends working with the officers of Customs and Border Protection. Our armed forces have already conducted nearly 13,000 patrols along the border. And today, we give these great warriors the recognition that they have earned, and they have really earned it. The military component of our border security efforts is just the beginning. We're also designating the drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. A big deal from a legal standpoint and military standpoint. We've ended catch and release, and we endured and ensured that anyone who sets foot across our border illegally is intercepted, arrested, and immediately deported. Or if they're really bad, they're put into prison because we don't want to ever take a chance if they come back.

[Tom Holman]

You know, I was just, I just got home last night. I toured the border in California, Arizona and Texas. I did it in four wheel drive. I did it on the river. I did it from the air. Hundreds upon hundreds of miles of border. I didn't see one illegal alien. Not a single one. I've done this since 1984. I worked for six different presidents. No one has done more than President Trump. What he has done is gave us the most secure border in the history of this nation. Hard stop. I went hundreds of miles of border, didn't see one illegal alien. Incredible. Considering the Biden administration, we had 10, 12,000 a day, most released in the United States. I'm proud to be with these patriots behind me. I'm already proud to be in the Oval Office of the President. But being with these heroes, I met some of these soldiers down on the border and actually shout out to Fort Drum, New York, we got some 10th Mountain Division here. So Elise Stefanik, Claudia Tennant. We all love Fort drum and the 10th Mountain. So look, this is a game changer. I want to make something perfectly clear because we get attacked all the time, being inhumane. The Biden administration is much more humane. It's just, it's a bunch of crap because there's been studies done that 31% of women that make that journey through the cartels get sexually assaulted, they get raped. And not just the women, children too. I've done numerous investigations in that. Sex trafficking was historic highs with an open border fentanyl, historic highs that killed a quarter million Americans. No inspector terrorist that came across the border record historical. What happened under the Biden administration was the most inhumane thing I've seen in my lifetime. And now that the border is 96% declining, 96% less people are coming. How many women aren't being raped? How many children aren't dying making that journey? How many women and children aren't being sex trafficked into this country every day? How many non suspected terrorists aren't just walking across that border? President Trump in this administration is saving thousands of lives every month. Hard stuff, that's just a stone cold fact. I'm just proud to be a part of this. I work with Steve Miller every day. Steve Miller is one of the most brilliant people I met in my entire life. President Trump brought together one hell of a team here. And success proved we all working together. One team, one fight. We're not done yet. We're going to keep going and I guarantee you we can continue saving thousands and thousands of lives. Secure border means strong national security. Secure border saves lives.

[Donald Trump]

That's why today I'm taking one more step to protect Americans from the scourge of deadly fentanyl flooding into our country. With this historic executive order I will sign today. We're formally classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction, which is what it is. No bomb does what this is doing. A poorly run state of Colorado with a governor who's incompetent. And frankly, with a governor that won't allow our wonderful Tina to come out of a jail in a high intensity jail because she caught people cheating on an election and they said she was cheating. She wasn't cheating. She went over, she looked at one of the election scams going on and because she did that, they put her in jail for nine years. The governor of Colorado is a weak and pathetic man who was run by Trend Aragua. The criminals from Venezuela took over sections of Colorado and he was afraid to do anything. But he puts Tina in jail for nine years because she caught people cheating. And when she walked over and got involved in it, they said she was cheating. She wasn't cheating. She caught people cheating on the election 2020, along with a lot of other people that cheated on that election. You'll see that coming out more and more.

[Cash Bondino]

First of all, as around the world, as liberal Democracy frays. We see the rise in all forms of bigotry and we're seeing that globally rises of anti Semitism, rises of nativism, of Islamophobia, of anti lgbt. So that's one element that you associate with the far right in 2018, the Tree of Life Synagogue. That shooter was radicalized by his fear of an immigrant invasion from Central America and he attacked the synagogue because it had a refugee Shabbat. Also clear that since October 7, some people are taking out their anger against Israel, against Jews, which is fundamentally wrong. Jews are not responsible, regardless of what they think about Israel. They are not responsible for what Israel does any more than a Chinese American person or a Chinese Australian person would be responsible for what the People's Republic of China does. But tragically, we see empirically that there is a rise in anti Semitic attacks by people who are wrongly and immorally taking out their anger at Israel against Jews.

[Caroline Wren]

Why is that? We don't, we don't generally see it.

[Steve Bannon]

As you said, for a Chinese American.

[Caroline Wren]

Based on what is happening in China, for the People's Republic is doing.

[Steve Bannon]

Why do we see it?

[Caroline Wren]

Why is it different for Jews?

[Cash Bondino]

Well, during COVID we actually did see some of this. If you remember, there were these spate of attacks quite to this degree. No, but there was a quite frightening spate of attacks against Chinese Americans.

[Caroline Wren]

Universal condemnation.

[Cash Bondino]

There was. And I think there's been a pretty broad condemnation of this as well as there as there should be. The important thing I think to say is that there are many peoples around the world who share an ancestry, an ethnicity, a religion, a race, with governments that do various things. We also see in the United States a history of attacks on Muslims because people were upset at what Iran did or upset after September 11th or ISIS.

[Javier Negray]

Right.

[Cash Bondino]

The key thing to say is that people deserve to be treated equally and free of bigotry. Irrespective of what you think about the government that may share a particular ethnic characteristic or religious character.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Prisoners not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

[Caroline Wren]

MAGA media I wish in my soul.

[Steve Bannon]

I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask Yourself. What is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It's Monday the 15th of December, year of our Lord 2025. We're going to start with John Solomon. John, when we talked pre dawn this morning, he was to bring you on about breaking news of Justin News and John Solomon reports. But I gotta ask you, President Trump on fire today on the Sunday of the executive order. What's the importance of this? You got Tom Holman all jacked up. You got everybody focused on fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction, the drug cartels as international terrorist organizations. Plus cash rolls up for bad guys in Los Angeles on a New Year's Eve bombing. You've got what's happening in Australia. Put it in perspective for us. Perspective for us.

[John Solomon]

John Solomon I think Tammy's a good reminder that America is currently at war, not in the traditional sense of a World War II or Vietnam War, but in the sense that our enemies are trying to create death and destruction on our soil. They do it with fentanyl, which has now killed more Americans than World War II did. They do it with terror attacks. They do it with hatred and anti Semitism that eventually leads people to take such extraordinary actions as what we saw in Australia. So I think the President declaring fentanyl a weapon of mass destruction reminds the American people in a powerful way that we are at war in this country right now. We are under attack every day in ways that we never saw before our country's history. And whether it's the Chinese precursor makers or the Venezuelan and Mexican drug cartels, the President has made clear now he considers their actions to be as heinous as a nuclear weapon, as dangerous as a nuclear weapon, and he intends to punish those who perpetrate it, like those who would deploy a nuclear weapon on the United States. So really extraordinary day today. Cash Patel keeps stopping terror and school shootings. I mean you think about three or four or five school shootings I know of this year that they called local police, they rolled up a guy before he did something terrible. That's a great thing, a great, a more proactive preemptive FBI. Then of course today a major terror attack. That looks like it was a far left group, pro Palestine far left group that was going to light up Los Angeles on New Year's Eve and the FBI stopped it before that could happen. So a good day for prevention, a good day for reminding the American people that we're at War with enemies, some of them a little less visible than the traditional enemies in the world.

[Steve Bannon]

We're going to drill down tomorrow the Red Green Alliance. You got this looks like a tranny, some radical lefties, jihadists. It's the Red Green alliance for this Los Angeles thing. We got to drill down. But John, I want to go back to the story that we're going to start with this morning. Pre dawn when you broke it, is that particularly the audience, a lot of them are sitting there going, hey, I got, we're at war. Trump's doing great stuff. We're signing these. He's got. But how are we going to win this war when the enemy within the deep state that you've been hammering for years and years and years. Tell us about your story when you don't know who's really on your side of the football and who's with us and who's against us. Sir.

[John Solomon]

Well, what you end up seeing in this story this morning is that even during the first Trump administration, there were people in the Justice Department and the FBI who were protecting Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton from the sort of justice they should face for a Pay to play scheme involving their foundation and Hillary Clinton's decisions as Secretary of State. Extraordinary memos, extraordinary details. We learned for the first time in these documents that Cash Patel and Pam Bondi gave to Chuck Grassley. Chuck Grassley gave to just the news that the FBI first intercepted information suggesting a pay to play scheme with Hillary Clinton back in 2010. They were sitting or they had a recording, a consensual recording made of a conversation by a famous Democrat, Indian American, Democrat donor fundraiser named Chatwell. He would eventually go be convicted of some fundraising crimes. But the concern in that call was not excessive limits or contributions exceeding the limits. It was the idea that foreigners were lining up and they were going to give money to the Clinton foundation so that Hillary Clinton could make favorable decisions for them and their countries and their foreign companies that didn't go anywhere during the Obama years. In 2016, three separate FBI offices as you and I have talked about, because these were earlier documents we got opened up. And then on the Clinton Foundation, Little Rock, Washington, D.C. and New York all believe they had clear evidence of a Pay to Play corruption scheme involving the Clintons. As we mentioned, the last time we talked about this, Sally Yates gave a command from the deputy attorney saying shut it down. But inside the FBI, 16, 17, 18, it kept getting shut down. Andy McCabe kept shutting it down, kept putting pressure there. Shut it down.

[Steve Bannon]

When is the one is the statute of limitations run out on McCabe and these guys to get them up? Because I'm hearing it's like the last week of January of this, of next year.

[John Solomon]

Well, remember, McCabe left in 2017, so five years is 2022. The real statute is in 2026. If you take the conspiracy case that Florida is about to begin in January. The clock is ticking, but you can bring a very big conspiracy. And that case is now underway for the first time I can confirm they're bringing witnesses and evidence before a grand jury in Florida to look at the last decade as one ongoing criminal conspiracy.

[Steve Bannon]

We impaneled the grand jury. Finally, criminal grand jury. John Solomon. Where do they go? You follow us here at 6. Where they go to get all your content served.

[John Solomon]

Just the news.com tomorrow morning, day two of Clinton Foundation. Hillary Clinton had a Russia collusion problem. They found it, but it got shut down. We're going to give everybody the details tomorrow morning.

[Steve Bannon]

God, you're killing me on this. You're killing me on this. Sorry about that, John Solomon. We'll see you back on here tomorrow morning then we'll track you down.

[John Solomon]

Sounds good, buddy.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, brother. Wow, the Clintons. Come on, man. In a fair universe, the Clintons. Unbelievable. We gotta get to the bottom of it. The deep state here gotta be broken apart. Action, action, action. Big action today in the Oval. Rav Espanol, our sister channel. Got a couple of questions in Javier Negray and Oscar Blue Ramirez. Next on the weapons of mass destruction. That is fentanyl in the war room.

[Javier Negray]

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[Javier Negray]

First of all, thanks for honoring these.

[Donald Trump]

Thank you, heroes.

[Javier Negray]

The Communists have lost Chile. The pro Trump candidate Jose Antonio Cast won the elections. Do you think this right wing wave in the Spanish world is due to your influence?

[Donald Trump]

Well, I just. We just had a good one in Honduras, as you know, had a great election there. I endorsed somebody that was not leading and he won the election and we had a good one. Just a little couple of hours ago, I found out in Chile the person I endorsed who was not leading ended up winning quite easily. So I look forward to paying my respects to him. I hear he's a very good person.

[Javier Negray]

Mr. President, the Democrats won Miami, where you won the election one year ago. Do you think it's because of Hispanic media like Telemundo that are publishing fake news about the ICE operations? How do you plan to win back those votes for midterms?

[Donald Trump]

Yeah, well, I won that whole election. And you know, it's interesting, when I'm not running, we don't do as well. And I'm going to try and get that changed for the midterms. But we did have a big win in Tennessee. As you know, Matt Van Epps, Van Epps had a big win in Tennessee against a very strong candidate, attractive candidate, who a lot of people thought would do very well. And Matt won by a lot and I won Tennessee by a real lot. You know, we had a great. We had a great election. We won every single swing state. We won the popular vote. We won everything. And there's a thing that they have now, districts, which is a big deal. I think in a way it's the most important stat from the standpoint of, you know, looking at numbers accurately. So out of thousands of districts, I won 2,750 versus 525. Think of that. 2,750 versus 525. It was great. That's why the map, when you see a map of the election, it's all red other than two little narrow lines on the other side.

[Javier Negray]

Please, sir.

[John Solomon]

Jimmy Lai was convicted today in Hong Kong. Do you have any reactions?

[Donald Trump]

I feel so badly. I spoke to President Xi about it and I asked to consider his release. He's not well. He's an older man and he's not well. So I did put that request out. We'll see what happens. Okay.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay. Jimmy. Jimmy Lai, of course. That's horrific. We're going to spend more time on that tomorrow. Jimmy Lai, the great hero in Hong Kong, found guilty of sedition and is looking at life in prison. He's going to be sentenced, I think, in, in early January. Horrible situation. Hopefully the US Government steps in there like Bolsonaro. We got some big problems around the world. Javier joins us. Javier, you're the White House correspondent now for RAV Espanol. It's amazing. Today you kind of kicked off great questions. Just tell me what's the importance of having a Spanish language maga? Real America's voice in the main channel is quite maga. We're proudly right wing. We had a huge win last night in Chile, a huge win. In fact, the Financial Times did a big article, I'm quoted pretty a lot in there talking about how big it was for the whole MAGA movement, for President Trump, for hemispheric defense, all of it. How important is it to have a voice on the right that really cuts through all the BS and gets right to what's happening in the Oval. Officer.

[Javier Negray]

Thank you very much, Steve. It's really important because the Democrats, the globalists, the communists, they are using platforms like Univision, like Telemundo, to publish fake news, using the ICE operation and telling the people, the Hispanic community that Trump hates Hispanic people and they are hiding the criminal records of these kind of people that have been deported. So it's really important to show how the reality is in the Hispanic community because in the American side you are doing a great job. You know, you have a lot of YouTubers, podcasters that speaks English, but you have a lot of people in Miami, I have a lot of friends in Miami, in Texas, they don't understand English and they need to have a voice in the Hispanic side. So it's really important. The movement that Rob and Parker made with Raf and Un Espanol and the movement that the White House wants today with me, like to take me into the Oval Office to have two questions about the importance of having Spanish media in the Oval Office, talking about what's going on in Chile or the right wing wave, that impact in the South America world thanks to Trump, we saw in Argentina, we are very close with the President Milei, as you know, we are very close with the president of Ecuador, we are very close with the candidate of Honduras. And anytime that Trump supports a candidate. We are watching in South America that people win election. I give you an example. In Mexico, all the media, all the mainstream media hates Trump. I own the Recha, Diario and Ohn and we are supporting the ideas, the values of Trump in those kind of countries. So it's really important to create a big network to show the Hispanic community that Trump is not evil for Hispanic community. He's a good guy. He makes law and order, he creates employees. And now if you go to Miami now with a mayor communist or you see New York, the Democrats, they want to use the Hispanic voters to tell them lies. So I think it's very important for the White House to have more media for the Hispanic community because Univision, Telemundo, cnn, en Espanol, they are taken by Democrats. A lot of funds from USAID founds, you know, globalists, people like Soros, they invest a lot of money in that kind of platforms. In Miami, they use, they're buying like radio station, TV station to spread bad words about Trump and we have to fight against. The best place to do is real America's Voice on Espanol every Sunday, the rainy show you can follow on YouTube and in real America's Voice platforms.

[Steve Bannon]

Javier, how big a deal is it that we've been fighting people behind the scenes have been fighting and getting this through the administration for a while. President Trump's wanted to do it. Fentanyl as a weapons of mass destruction and the cartels as international terrorist organization will give us a whole big broader toolbox. How big a deal is that, sir?

[Javier Negray]

You know, the fentanyl is a big problem. I think that Trump is doing correct like make pressure into the Mexican government. We are telling all the people how Venezuela, how Mexico is taking drugs into the United States and killing our children. It's very important that people in that country, the Mexican people that lives, I give you an example in California understands the role of Trump in Mexico and the role of Trump in Venezuela. I think that Trump is a peace man. He wants peace, but he wants to destroy all the drug boats. No, I'm watching right now Democrats telling the people, hey, we have to stop the attacks against the drug boats. Why? So Trump wants to protect the Hispanic community, wants to protect the English community against these drug dealers and faint Anilo it's very hard in Spain. We don't have that problem. It's a big problem that people from China, that people from Venezuela, they are having a lot of money from these drugs that are killing the Americans. So I'm very Happy that you have a president right now in the United States taking care of other people. So make America health again.

[Steve Bannon]

Javier, where do we get you on Real America's Voice? Espinal, how do we get all the news over there in your show?

[Javier Negray]

Yeah, we have a daily, not a weekly show every Sunday at 8 in the afternoon. So we are collecting all the influencers of a cultural battle that we are from Argentina, from Ecuador, from Bolivia. In Bolivia we have a right wing president right now we are very happy. We talk about the corruption in the Spanish government and the closest relationship between the Spanish government and the ex president Zapatero with Maduro they are making millionaires deals and there are socialists taking into deprivation, you know because they are making big deals with Maduro and we want to tell all the Hispanic community how communism works in the whole world because they are like connected everywhere and they have like funds in common in Iran, in China and Russia and we have to fight against these fake news. That attack you. That attack me. It's funny because in Spain the leftists are telling all the people that I'm following your Steph. So I'm very proud of it. So you are for me like a master's. It's like the Hispanic Stevano, of course I want to follow your steps for the Hispanic community because I think it's burging. We are helping right now, you know parties like Vox in Spain. The communism is really dangerous and we need to win elections and we need to combat fake news platforms. And here in America we have a big, big thing in the Hispanic media. They are controlling by the Democrats And I think that the White House gave us an example today like how we can fight together against fake news media. For Rafael Espanol and making good question to Donald Trump President we look forward.

[Steve Bannon]

To seeing you back in the Oval, sir. Great start Javier. Appreciate you sir. Great start.

[Javier Negray]

Thank you very much. I would love to interview in the right news show every Sunday at 8pm Eastern time. Thank you very much Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

I'll be there. Thank you sir. Oscar, I'm going to hold you over until the next do the next break. Also Caroline Wren's going to join me. Very disturbing in Providence. An extraordinary young woman up there. I want to make sure. I think this thing might have been targeted against a conservative. We're going to get to that. Caroline Wren's going to give you what she thinks. Oscar Blue Ramirez When I watch this today brother, the very first thing that came to my mind Oscar and Ben Marquam, all those years you spent in the jungle. All the years you spent with the cartels tracking you down. You have been saying this on this show for five years. We need to designate fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction and we need to designate the cartels as terrorist organizations. Give me a minute before you go to break. What do you think? Sir?

[Oscar Blue Ramirez]

It's a great accomplishment and that is the perfect way to describe fentanyl as has been contaminating the whole world, but specifically the United States of America. To designate fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction. It is a great accomplishment and I hope that every single country and the whole continent recognizes this way weapon of mass destruction.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Donald Trump]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

[Oscar Blue Ramirez]

A.

[Steve Bannon]

Man that's gone in harm's way many times. Oscar Blue Ramirez covering the story for years for his country and his countrymen. Oscar, I remember the first time you came on, first time on the show, they tried to kill you down there. When you came on War Room, you saw Homans. I mean, that's from the heart. Tom Holman's as good as you get. And he says, I've been all over the border. I don't see any illegal aliens coming across. You've been in the trenches. You saw this, that you've worked on this for a long time. You and Berkwom. What are the two or three actions you're looking for coming out of the White House now that the designation has taken place? What are you looking for as far as action goes?

[Oscar Blue Ramirez]

Years immediate pressure to the Mexican government as to more exposure to the dirty politicians going to their bank accounts and ultimately at the end of the day, more pressure to dismantle these fentanyl laboratories that has been growing in Mexico because of the enormous pressure of Donald Trump pressuring the leftist political party of Morena, pressuring Shane Bound and ultimately at the end of the day, pushing some pressure on the Mexican military to go to these random areas, dismantle the laboratories. And, and from now on, Steve, it is full on pressure to put on the Mexican government to actually go after the cartels, eradicate this problem, eliminate this problem, because the Mexican people, this is what they really want. And now more than ever, the Mexican people are siding with Donald Trump in terms to put in pressure to the corruption that is happening in our country.

[Steve Bannon]

Oscar, I'm gonna have you back on the next couple days, but I want to make announcement. You also are going to get a show on Real America's Voice Espanol, is that correct?

[Oscar Blue Ramirez]

Yes, absolutely, sir. You know, we have been blessed to be with Real America's Voice news almost eight years I've been working and broadcasting for your show with the War Room and for the network and in English. And now we have the glorious opportunity to speak in our language in Spanish, to bring it to compete. And we're coming, we're going to take over the continent. We're going to have a show full on one hour show in Rab Espanol and it is going to be, you know, full informative and clearly transparent and all right news, all not fake news like the leftist, you know, Hispanic news Media that they are installing the United States of America lying to our people, that the Mexican people and the Latino. Hispanic people. We are conservative by nature and we know our values and we're gonna try to bring that with real America's voice, news and Espanol, sir.

[Steve Bannon]

Amen.

[Oscar Blue Ramirez]

You're.

[Steve Bannon]

You're a very special guy and a very courageous guy. Social media, where do people go?

[Oscar Blue Ramirez]

Brother Oscar Blue Ramirez and Getter. Sir. I'm trying to grow that platform so that people can follow me at Getter. Oscar Blue Ramirez on X. And of course, Real America's boys new. Sir, thank you so much, sir, for the opportunity every time to be on War Room. And like I have always said, you are an incredible mind and we are really lucky to have you, you know, on this fight.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you. Appreciate it and great work today. You and Ben Berkhom have just worked for years on getting this done. So fantastic. Great for the White House. The team over there, Homan, the president, all of it. New day dawning against war, against these cartels. Caroline Wren is going to join me. Let's play a very moving. At Mass yesterday, there was an announcement made in Alabama. Let's go ahead and cut to it. Some of you haven't heard. A lot of you had heard the tragedy yesterday at Brown University, the shooting of a number of people. And tragically, one of our parishioners, Ella Cook, was one of those who was killed yesterday. And those of you who knew her, those of you who know her, she was an incredible grounded, faithful, bright light. Not only here, growing up here at the advent and the myriad ways in which she served faithfully in the ways in which she encouraged and lift up those around her. But at Brown University, she was an incredible light in that particular place as well, and her parents as well, and her family, Richard and Anna Hooker and Mary Hamner. So very gracious, so very faithful. You yourselves a good and gracious light. We hear in the words of John's gospel, the light shines in the darkness and the darkness cannot and the darkness will not overcome it. And as the body of Christ, we. We grieve as people who are hopeful people with the awareness of what we hear. Our God will come and save us. The light shines in the darkness and the darkness comprehends not. Caroline Wren. There's something not right about this thing in Brown. And you got to understand this young woman was a vice president of the College Republican Club. The Republican Club, but was known as being very conservative. Right. In fact, some people got in trouble of saying stuff on social media. Basic stuff. But Brown is such a radical left. Brown is by far orders of magnitude the most far left student, faculty and student body in the Ivy League. And she stood tall. There's all types of chat going around, etc. That the campus police and the authorities are thinking that this may be a targeted assassination on someone. Ma', am.

[Caroline Wren]

This does. This hits close to home for me. I got my start in politics with the College Republicans at Auburn University in Alabama. And so this beautiful young girl from Mountain Brook, Alabama got her dream to go to an Ivy League school, Brown University, and she was viciously gunned down on campus along with 11 other students, two of which are now dead on Brown University's campus. And this shooting happened 48 hours ago. So far we have zero information on the suspect. We have one video of essentially a blog walking down an unidentified street. And what is amazing, like Brown is a private Ivy League school, it costs nearly $100,000 a year attend, and somehow a masked man walked into the lecture hall, shot 11 students that were there studying for their finals, then walked out. And there is no video footage. Like, where are the cameras at Brown University? How are. This is, this is unbelievable. There's 11,000 or so students at Brown University. I think less than 1% identify as conservative, which puts the number somewhere around 92 students. And somehow the vice president of the College Republicans died in the shooting. It makes it very hard to believe that this was not targeted. And why we don't know much about this also is because no one in the media is talking about it. I saw one report that said the shooter, that some of the students in the lecture hall said that the shooter yelled Ali Akbar before opening fire. Then some people say that isn't true. How hard is it to confirm that? I mean like did he yell that or not? You had a room full of 90 students in a lecture hall. So like at a basic level, could we just confirm that? Cuz that might explain the motive here. And you know, this comes on the heels of the FBI today announcing that they thwarted, thank God, a planned terrorist bombing in Los Angeles on New Year's Eve by a pro Palestine group. But apparently the media, they don't care. They don't want to talk about the mass murder that just happened at Brown University or the terrorist plot that they were just thwarted in Los Angeles. All they want to talk about is the rhetoric around Donald Trump's post about some movie director, Rob Reiner that I've never heard of, who was murdered by his coked out, deranged, drug addicted Son that he raised in Hollywood. So it's not even that shocking of a story. And so I just. I can. I don't want to talk about the movie mogul that was killed. I want to talk about ella Cook, the 19 year old, the beautiful young girl from Mountain Brook, Alabama, the Christian leader of the only conservative group on campus that was just shot in the face. And some reports are saying that. Why aren't we discussing that? That is what I want to be talking about right now.

[Steve Bannon]

Why is. You know, Cash, I understand they're busy. They got stuff going on. They just rolled up this group in la. But when you see the mayor and you see the chief of police and the campus police, it's Keystone Cops. Cash and Bongino should take this one over and they should be at the microphones, tell us what happened and we should have daily updates. I mean, it's kind of stunning. A guy, somebody can walk in on a study session. Because this was a called study session to get ready for finals. It's not like a regular class. Hell, it's a Saturday afternoon. How many college kids are in class on Saturday afternoon? Something happened and got this guy there. We don't know anything about it. And it's just the laws of probability when you have a known very conservative young woman that's VP of the Republican, has gone out of her way not to be controversial, but to help people that are getting dragged and ratioed on social media. And she's known as kind of a safe space. That's how brave she is that she's gunned down and shot in the face. And it's just too random, right? It's just. It doesn't make sense. Maybe it is, but we gotta get there. And you're right. I don't even wanna put the picture up. It's such a joke. I thought it was a parody when you sent me. It's across a parking lot and it's a little black thing walking around that's dressed up for winter with nothing. And they don't have any explanation. This is like the Keystone Cops running this. Is it not Caroline Wren?

[Caroline Wren]

Yeah, it is. I mean this is part of the like Providence, Rhode island is notable. Is small and so. But their police force is. Who is running this? Cash has come out and said that the FBI out of Boston is coming in to assist. But technically, you know, they don't have jurisdiction over it unless it's confirmed that it's domestic terrorists or that the. The suspect crossed state lines. And so I think having the Providence police Though lead. This is kind of, they've proven that I think it's, it's too small and that the FBI does need to come in and really take this over, but the governor has to request that. And so I'm hoping that that happens soon because I don't believe this is just some random attack. There's a pattern of these attacks. Three months ago we watched as Charlie Kirk got assassinated on live television. And then President Trump has had two assassination attempts against his life. More than half the cabinet and White House staff have all had to move on to military bases due to the threats against their lives. I mean, Alina Haba and Ed Martin have both been attacked. Stephen and Katie Miller had to move out of their home because left wing lunatics were riding in chalk every morning on their driveway. Death threats. A left wing sniper just murdered three people at an ICE facility in Texas. We just had two National Guards troops gunned down in D.C. i mean, I can, I can go on and on, but like there's a pattern here and it is a pattern of left wing violence against conservatives, against Christians, and we have got to stop it. And this takes the FBI's full and present attention, not some coked out movie sons murder mystery plot taking place in Los Angeles right now. Don't care.

[Steve Bannon]

Caroline Wren. Where do people go? You're putting stuff up on social media about this. Where, where do people go?

[Caroline Wren]

It's at Caroline Wren on Twitter, getter and Truth Social.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, ma'.

[Oscar Blue Ramirez]

Am.

[Steve Bannon]

Appreciate you.

[Caroline Wren]

Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

You know, the Rob Ronder thing is obviously horrific. To have your son and they pulled bail was $4 million. To have your son come in on a Sunday, Sunday and slit your throat and then kill you, your wife that have tried to care for this guy and he's got drug problems, et cetera. But whatever the President says, the President's going to say that doesn't. In this whole media firestorm, you're not covering the most important stories in the country. Once again, it's Trump derangement syndrome. The signal and the noise. And this is outrageous because people getting this thing in Providence does not make any sense at all.

[David Malpass]

None.

[Steve Bannon]

There's been no explanation. It doesn't seem like anybody competence on top of it. So I gotta tell you, it's just like it's what happened in Savannah and Savannah had the acid attack and there's, you know, they're stumbling around down there. These are, these are patterns. You can see what's happening here. They're going after Christians, are going after conservatives and unless you Fight back. It's going to continue. David Malpass, you joined us and you gave us a kind of a headline of what was going to happen here. We got about a minute before we go to break. I'm going to hold you through. This piece in the Wall Street Journal is very powerful because I kind of read it, is that the Fed is going to be a constant headwind. They're going to kind of work against the Trump growth plan. Is that the way to take it, that the more President Trump and the Secretary of Treasury try to work towards growth, a supply side, you've got this kind of countervailing structural wind that's going to be thwarting our growth. Is that correct?

[David Malpass]

That's right. The system is set up with models, Steve, where they think that growth causes inflation. So they ought to tamp down growth with high interest rates. And that's getting, that's getting locked in. Well, it's been locked into the system for a long time. It fights and fights against growth. And the huge problem is the economic community really believes in it. They think that they can measure inflation, that they can measure the amount of money and control it within the economy. And it hasn't been working. Look at the huge jumps in inflation that we had in the Biden administration. So I'm afraid they're doing it again. This time they'll fight against growth as we go into 2026.

[Steve Bannon]

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[David Malpass]

That's right. I think it extends all the way out into 27 they've got a lock on the board of the Federal Federal Reserve. But think about it. If the country is doing well, shouldn't we have lower interest rates? Not higher interest rates. And not just in the short end, but in the long end as well? That it'd be. Mortgage rates should be coming down if the country is doing well. But that's not the way the models work. The Fed's models are entrenched, so they actually have the idea of there being an output gap, that if the economy is growing faster than it should, then you should raise rates. They also have failed models on inflation. So let's look at that. If people's wages are going up, you're going to see it in the price of services. That gets picked up in the Fed's models on inflation and they hike the rates to squelch the wage hikes that are going on. So it fights against exactly the outcomes that we're trying to get. That's why it's called the demand side model. And what I've advocated all along with all the people you've been mentioned, is a supply side model that's built on the. On defending the dollar and letting interest rates come down so that people can grow at the bottom end of the income curve. We want the short rates down for small businesses, but we also want the long rates down for mortgages. And that's not going to happen under their current models.

[Steve Bannon]

So clearly Paul Gigio and the team over at the Wall Street Journal's editorial page, which are no fans of the war room and we're not fans of theirs, but that's okay. We respect them. We don't like them or don't think that we think they're wrong. But they must be concerned about this also because they kind of gave you prime property today. What's the thinking behind the scenes of the brains in the business press? Are they concerned about this also? Because since they've given you such great.

[David Malpass]

Coverage of this, I think there's confusion in the economics community. So people get tangled up. And that's what I was writing about today. I guess it'll be in the Journal maybe tomorrow morning, but it's online now and people can look find it by Googling Malpass WSJ and you see quite a bit of what I've written and I'm grateful to them for giving me space to talk about this. The economics community is way over on the other side. They think everything's going fine. I've written this over and over again that they think inflation targeting has worked. And you look back on the 30 years of history of the United States and it doesn't work at all. But they don't get it. They don't want to change the model because they all got their PhDs based on that model.

[Steve Bannon]

David, where do people go on social media to get you? You're putting up great stuff all the time. And I do want to thank the Wall Street Journal too, for giving you such a big amount of space to work this problem. It's a big problem. It's got to be worked out. So where do people go.

[David Malpass]

On X at Davidr? Malpass or you can Google Malpass WSJ just put it into the Google Google banner and the articles pop up and they show you what's wrong with the models.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, sir. Look forward to drilling down this time. You're back on David Malpress, former head of the World bank and a senior member of President Trump's first Treasury Department. Sam Tannehouse is going to be with me in the next hour. You don't want to miss this, the third hour of our conversation about Bill Buckley and the revolution that changed America. I'm so excited. I love Tanenhaus. And we're going to walk through today and hopefully take the story up to the founding of the National Review. So you don't want to miss this. Tannenhouse. A very special guy. Mike Lindell. Brother, you have so impressed me. I don't want to get into details, but you have so blown me away as a candidate for governor. You just, you're amazing. You really are an amazing person. But here, enough happy talk. I want deals on pillows, on sheets, on crosses. What do you got for us?

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