
Episode 5001: Saving The Country And Keeping The Christian West ...
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
Stephen K. Bannon
MAGA Media.
Steve Bannon
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Stephen K. Bannon
War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
Steve Bannon
Ben Harnwell, you've got some, by the way. Tuesday 16th December. Year of war 2025. This hour is going to be more intense than the last. Get on with it. Harnwell. You've got a response to Dan Caldwell.
Ben Harnwell
Yeah, if I just give me a quick moment to respond to what he was saying just before the break about the security guarantees being more locked in, more powerful than the security. The Article 5 guarantees of NATO. We say this a thousand times on the war, and the actual Article 5 guarantee obliges you to do absolutely nothing if a NATO ally is attacked. You just got to take whatever steps you think are appropriate to the situation. That could be putting out a strongly worded press release and you could say that has fulfilled our obligations. What is being talked about here is going to bind you, America, in to defending Ukraine. And whilst I don't believe, I'm not one of these people, that Russia is preparing on rolling tanks through continental Europe, we. When you have US guarantees.
Dan Caldwell
Not only.
Ben Harnwell
To Ukraine, but to the whole of continental Europe, Continental Europe act extremely irresponsibly with that at its back, on its shoulders, covering its back. So that's actually going to be moral hazard in a certain sense, because it is insulating European leaders with their relationship with Russia. Steve, my point is this, okay? On the treaty thing, there are three types of treaty here of offering.
Steve Bannon
Okay, hang on. I don't have time for it. I gotta bounce because I'm jammed. But let me tell you, you got weak on me. You said go back over and cut a better deal. They should not go back over there. Call them on the phone and say, hey, look, we tried. We're not gonna be able to do this. Do you agree with that, Ben Harno? I'll give you a chance to recover from your weakness. Are you. Are you Prepared just to have Witkoff make a phone call.
Ben Harnwell
That's what I would look, I was trying to throw a bridge out to the administration using the language that it uses. But you know, in my heart of hearts, right my, my approach is have at it, right. That that's the only phone call that Steve Whitcock needs to make to anybody in continental Europe, including Ukraine and Russia. Have at it. We're out. That is our deal.
Steve Bannon
Amen.
Ben Harnwell
I was trying. I was trying to.
Dan Caldwell
I to was trying.
Ben Harnwell
I know that's the language they're talking.
Steve Bannon
Ben Hartner, where do people go today? We putting stuff up on Getter and other social media where they go.
Ben Harnwell
I'll be on get at Harnwell and also folks go to Bannon's war room on Rumble when this hit drops and I will put on the links that I refer to in the show there today and get to tomorrow. Thanks, Steve.
Steve Bannon
God bless you, sir. Appreciate it. Dan Caldwell, real quickly, don't they have to change the law to do this the same Nunn, this is, this is not something you sign an executive order about. Don't you have change of law here on the Combatant Commanders.
Dan Caldwell
So the combatant commanders system, the current system was established under Goldwater Nichols. Reorganize the combatant commands.
Richard Baris
You don't need, I believe Congress to get involved.
Dan Caldwell
However, there was one idea floated in this article that I think is very dangerous and this is idea of a joint task force war, which it doesn't.
Steve Bannon
Seem like is an option now, but.
Dan Caldwell
That would give more power to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Steve Bannon
Operational control, which in my view would.
Dan Caldwell
Be against Goldwater Nichols.
Steve Bannon
But again, I don't think the secretary or the White House is supporting that.
Dan Caldwell
To be clear.
Steve Bannon
That would go back to the system that when I was working for the chief Naval operations, we had that system before Goldwater Nicholas came in the late 80s. Dan, where they go, you're putting up great stuff nonstop. Where do people go to track you?
Richard Baris
2 places my X account at Dand.
Dan Caldwell
Caldwell and then I'm now a foreign.
Steve Bannon
Policy fellow at American moment.
Dan Caldwell
So americanmoment.org thank you, brother.
Steve Bannon
Appreciate you. Dan Caldwell, Posobec Any closing thoughts on the acid attack? Brown University, Ella Cook, the Christian martyr there or what we just heard about Pentagon?
Jack Posobec
Well, Steve, look, let me just put it this way. And we're coming up with going to be recording this pre record with Mike Benz. We're actually going to be talking about Ukraine and the regime change operation that led to all of this. That's going to be coming out during the Christmas break. But look, when you see all this stuff, Steve, I'm sorry that, you know, I grew up in the Philadelphia area under the shadow of Frank Rizzo, the greatest mayor in American history and the greatest mayor certainly in Philadelphia history. And it's time to go Frank Rizzo on the subversive groups of Brown University. Knock on every single door, door to door and find out what happened to Ella Cook. It's very simple. Somebody knows something and you gotta get it out of them. And quite frankly, Steve, I think it's time to do that to every single one of these subversive groups all across this beautiful country. Because the same way that Frank Rizzo was dealing with the Black Panthers who held their national convention, right, at Temple University in 1970 where I later went to school, okay? That's how radical Temple University was. You had the national Marxist convention of the Black Panthers. Who, who was the one, who was it that kept Philadelphia safe through all of that subversiveness? It was Frank Rizzo. And I think it's time for America to get a little bit of Frank Rizzo back.
Steve Bannon
And I tell you, my parents admired him. Richmond was very much like Philadelphia in those days. My parents admired mine. And I tell you who really, I tell you who really admires him. Donald John Trump. Trust me.
Jack Posobec
You know what he said about those.
Steve Bannon
Guys and what do you say he.
Jack Posobec
Said, he said, when I'm done with these anti police scum, I'll make Attila the Hun look like a fairy.
Steve Bannon
I think he used more blunt language, but I get the drift of where we go for it. I can't remember which word he used. I think it was, it was, it was, it was definitely. It was the F word, but it had a different ending for where they.
Jack Posobec
Go for you also, man, it's at Jack Posobec and of course Human Events Daily is the show. And this weekend we will be up at Amfest.
Steve Bannon
Let's go full Frank Rizzo. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. See you at Amfest. Teetzel. Thank you for weighing teeth. So first off, at CRA you've got this amazing paper on Sharia and Islam. Where do people get that?
Grayson Mo
Hey Steve, go to the website americarenewing.com you'll find it. Right.
Steve Bannon
Okay. The President today gets on fire. He's getting blocked by the filibuster, but he's livid about this thing of blue slips. Explain that to people. What CRA doing about it because the President saying, hey, I can't get law and order. If I can't get my AGs, if I can't get my AGs in there, if I can't get my guys running these different districts, I can't get my judges, I can't get anything. My hands are tied. What do you got for us?
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah.
Grayson Mo
Just when you thought you couldn't be any more dissented by the Republican Congress, they come and give you something else just in time for Christmas. A blue slip is this convention. It's a tradition. It's not found in the Senate rules. It's definitely not found in the Constitution. It's just a convention that's been in place for 100 years. And what it says is that when you're considering an executive branch nominee for a federal judgeship or for a federal prosecutor in a district like the Eastern District of Virginia, for example, you got to go to the home state senator and give them a blue piece of paper and ask for a thumbs up or a thumbs down for your nominee. The reason that they did this for several years is because you had the filibuster, Right? And so it was a political practice that helped you to gauge whether or not your nominee was going to have the votes they needed to get through. And it was also in an era where there was a general sense of collegiality.
Dan Caldwell
Right.
Grayson Mo
It wasn't the uproarious politics of our time. We know we're now living in a world where the politics are different. We've seen the filibuster go away when it comes to nominations. And yet, despite all of those changes, Senate Republicans are remaining steadfastly committed to this blue slip, which is now essentially a veto that a single Democratic senator can have over one of President Trump's nominees. Just like that. And this has disastrous effects. Lindsey Halligan was the nominee for the Eastern District of Virginia. She was prosecuting Comey. She was prosecuting Letitia James. But because Mark Warner and Tim Kaine returned a negative blue slip on her, Chuck Grassley and John Thune declined to move her nomination through the process. Eventually, her time in that position expired because she wasn't confirmed. And that mooted those entire prosecutions, thwarting one of the most important things that the conservative movement reelected Donald Trump to do. This practice has got to end. There is no excuse for it still existing other than making senators feel powerful.
Steve Bannon
Where can people go over to your shop to find out more about this? We got to get everybody up to speed on this topic. Like now. This is going to be the big fight this next week. Where do folks go?
Grayson Mo
As soon as you're done reading about the threat of Islamism in America, you can turn to our white paper on getting rid of the blue slip. It talks about the history, it talks about all of these dynamics that have changed and what can be done to undo it. It's really simple and straightforward.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, brother. Let's get over there. Grayson, Mo, let's be a force multiplier. You guys are great. Love you guys. I would see you a fantastic Eric Tetzel. Fantastic. The reason I want to have Teachel slide him in here before Solomon. John, you've got amazing pieces you're putting up, but it's all about main justice. You know, all these criminals, all these crimes, and nothing's done about it. And then Teachel's sitting there going, you got the, not just the filibuster, you got the blue slips. Trump's going crazy. He can't get what he wants. How can we talk. I want you to talk briefly about the two breaking stories you got on the Clintons. But how can we get, how can we get justice if the president came and get his team, man, and we're almost one year into this thing, sir.
John Solomon
Well, the most contemporaneous thing we have, and it just broke a bit this morning, is that the Justice Department and FBI are about to turn over a tranche of emails showing that the Justice Department, the Biden Justice Department, did not have probable cause, did not meet the standard for a search warrant when they raided President Trump's home at Mar a Lago. That is significant. Why? It's in the statutory limit. It is prosecutable in the state of Florida. So you're not dealing with Virginia or Washington or New York jurors. And it could lead to both criminal charges against the prosecutors if they misled the court, or civil litigations where the president sues his own Justice Department saying, you violated my Fourth Amendment right against illegal search and seizure. And so those are really. This is a significant. This may be the most important document today.
Steve Bannon
This a blockbuster. You're telling me there actually exists communications between people that show that they didn't have probable cause? Which, remember, back in August that year, there was the. I think it was 21. There was this whole firestorm about this. And they went on TV every night and said that. You're saying they not only they had a discussion behind, they actually went out and lied about it in media every single day on MSNBC and in the New York Times.
John Solomon
Here's the real question. We're going to have to find out what they represented to the judge to get that search warrant signed because the FBI, the Washington field office of the FBI, which by the way was no fan of Donald Trump's they were behind January 6th, they were behind Russia collusion. They were telling the Biden Justice Department there was not a probable cause to raid Mar A Lago. That is a significant these are emails and memos from inside the Washington field office of the FBI at anti Trump field office. That is a really significant moment. We haven't seen the documents yet. We know what they generally say, but we're going to see they're going to get turned over to Grassley in Jordan today and then Jack Smith's on the Hill tomorrow for a deposition. If he shows up, I'm sure he's going to be confronted by these documents.
Steve Bannon
Are you implying that Merrick Garland then made the decision against evident, against facts that they didn't have probable cause? This all the way up to Merrick Garland, sir.
John Solomon
Well, we don't know who approved the search warrant request, so that those are important things. We got to get those documents unmasked in the court. But now we're getting a sense of it. I think the package that comes out today will give us new characters, new players and new opportunities to get to the bottom of this. But this potentially is prosecuted. It could be a dispirable offense if you lied as a lawyer. And of course it gives President Trump a tort. That could be pretty significant on the civil side.
Steve Bannon
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Stephen K. Bannon
War room here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Steve Bannon
Solomon, are you this had to go all the way up to Merrick Garland. I understand you're being very. And people should know John, you know is privy to a lot of information. You're being quite reserved about this going all the way up to Merrick Garland to approve a raid on a president of the United States. Sir, your thoughts?
John Solomon
Yeah. We know that Merrick Garland knew about the raid. Whether he was told that the FBI had objected to the lack of probable cause and that this was not a lawful raid. Not clear yet. We'll see what these documents say. That's going to lead to some new questioning. I don't think we'll get an answer in the first batch of documents. My FBI sources don't know whether Mayor Carlton was told of the objections. Clearly the line prosecutors were and that's what these emails are going to discuss. So I think we got to wait for the documents. These are very legitimate questions and. And this is a really serious matter. You raided the Republican candidates home as the opposition party and you may have done so over the objections of the FBI and in violation of a standard for search warrants which is you have to have probable cause. Those are big things. And the Democrats will say but we found documents that doesn't matter just because you Found something doesn't mean that you had the right to go find it. And that's. I think we're finding a very big moment. Jim Jordan, Chuck Grass are going to be key players in getting to the bottom of this, along with Pam Bondi and Cash Patel, which found these documents.
Mike Lindell
John.
Steve Bannon
In previous lives, in a land far away, in a time long, long ago, Peter Schweitzer, John Solomon, Stephen K. Bannon. We were all over collectively, the Clinton cash and the Clinton family and the Clinton family and Uranium One and Russians. You got another piece up. My head's blown up again. When are we going. Is the statute of limitations run out on these crooks who sold us out to the Russians, sir?
John Solomon
Well, we'll see. If there are contemporaneous questions about the finances of the Clinton foundation, it could open up a conspiracy case. But what we learned in the last 24 hours is that there was evidence of pay to play all the way back to 2010, and specifically when the Clinton cash book came out. When you were talking about it, when I was doing my reporting and we found Doug Campbell, the undercover informant, the Clinton family said, no, there, there, no concern there. Everything's fine. It's a conspiracy theory. It wasn't a conspiracy theory. It turns out The Little Rock U.S. attorney's office and the FBI had an ongoing investigation looking at the transfer, with the help of President Clinton and Mrs. Clinton, of uranium in Canada and on U.S. oil to Russia to Rosatan to Vladimir Putin. They were looking at it as a possible pay to play bribery scheme. And I'm going to predict that there is a smoking gun still to be released. We've got to get the president to do this. But I'm going to guess based on the documents I saw yesterday, that either the Justice Department or the FBI raised an objection to the cfius. That's the board that approves sensitive transactions. Hillary Clinton has always said no one objected. I'm going to bet that there was an objection based on what I've seen in these documents. And we got to go get that declassified. But I think all the stories we're talking about Uranium One, the only ones that were true were the ones Peter Schweitzer. You and I reported on, the stories the Clintons and the Democrats gave us. Completely bogus.
Steve Bannon
John Solomon, this takes bodies. We need bodies. That main justice. I'm hearing it all the time from the FBI. We need dozens and dozens more lawyers. I understand conservative law firms are going to block them if they work, but this blue slit President Trump needs to field A team. He can't do it and he's going crazy about this. What's your advice to the president on this? What's your advice to the president on this, sir?
John Solomon
I think he's got to bring the Senate Senate Club into his office and have a private conversation and say, listen, the Democrats are going to eviscerate all these things you're clinging to today. They're old legacies. The American public don't want to hear about legacy, they want to hear about action. And you haven't given me my staff, you haven't given me a lot of my legislation. And if we lose the 26 election, you'll have a 15 justice supreme court stacked with liberals and the country will be blown away. He's just got to lay a bottom line argument onto these guys that while it's great to hold on to tradition, this isn't that moment. We're in war, we're in a wartime footing, and it is time to take care of the things that the American people want. There are lots of warning signs in the polls. And what's remarkable is that President Trump has pretty much done everything he said he was going to do. But the failure of Congress to get its part of the job done is what's dragging the Republican Party down, demoralizing the base. And Donald Trump needs to go right to the source of the problem. Bring in those senators, understand, listen to them, hear them out, and then say, listen, I'm asking you, treat this as a moment of war. And we got to overcome these obstacles and you guys find a way, either change the rules or make deals with Democrats. But I need the following things done by January 15th, and if they can't do it, then he campaigns against his own party for a few months.
Steve Bannon
Wow. John Solomon, where they go for all your content, sir? Pretty brutal advice.
John Solomon
Yeah, we're in brutal times. You see it every day, the threat against us. So brutal advice matches the moment that we're in in history. Churchill had made a lot of hard decisions in his time and FDR and Lincoln and I think President Trump's at that moment, just the news.com, jay Solomon reports on all social platforms and I'm lucky to follow you every day at Real America's voice. And the 6 o' clock hour, just the news, no noise with Amanda Head.
Steve Bannon
Well, we're very lucky to have you on in the morning, John, to tee us up for so many things. You teed me up perfectly for Mark Mitchell and the polling situation now. Thank you very much.
John Solomon
I love Mark, say hi to him for me.
Steve Bannon
John Solomon would be on six right after us. Make sure you go to his site all day long. So Mark Mitchell, is John Solomon right? I mean, he's got called. Is he getting blamed or is the Republican Party getting blamed? These poll numbers are, let's say, not the best. And let's assume for a second that this is not fake news or bad polling. Let's assume just for purpose of conversation, this is right. Is the president getting blamed for this or is Solomon saying, hey, look, it's the House, the House is like the Duma. The Senate is actually in opposition to Trump, but who's the American public and particularly MAGA thinks who it is. And Salama just said he's telling the president, hey, look, give him 30 days, give him 40 days, 45 days. But at some point in time in January, if they're not coming around to help you take action, you run a campaign against them for a couple of months. Your thoughts, sir?
Dan Caldwell
Well, first off, as far as the tracking questions, I honestly, I'm a pollster and I don't know how valuable they're going to be anymore. We're looking at Trump presidential approval rating and it's negative 5 net approval, which is roughly where Barack Obama 1 and 2 were at this point in his term. Not terrible, not absolutely great either. But the Trump's support is sticking with him. I think through all of this we had a little bit of a freak out, but those numbers are back. But the other thing we're looking at is generic ballot. And to be honest, the Republicans, even though they suck, the race seems to be tightening a little bit. We have Democrat plus three. And if you look at the real clear politics aggregate, I think it's Democrat plus 3.5. And so this isn't like some massive huge blue wave where there's going to be a huge Democrat pickup, which is typically what happens. This, this is going to be a slugfest. And I think it's because politics has just changed so much that we're in this really existential situation where people are afraid. This was a referendum, November 2024 on the federal government and Donald Trump wanted the job of president. And as the leader of the free world, as a leader of the American people, this isn't in my opinion about transactionally just going down a list of promises that he made on the campaign stump. He has to actually understand what Americans are going through and the actual root cause problems that we have in our country. And those problems are very deep in a way that I Don't think everybody really understood in 2016, but I think they understand now because we had the Department of Justice weaponized. We had the January six psychological operation, we had Covid, we had all this stuff forced down people's throats. We had the FBI being Joe Biden's personal gestapo and Donald Trump is now leading that government. And these problems have not been fixed. We're coming up on the one month anniversary of my trip to Washington D.C. and I told Trump, I said, we need the fight, fight, fight plan for America that includes a conservative, pragmatic, economic populist plan. Don't tell everybody it's a golden age because nobody believes that. You got to tell us how we're going to get there and what the real problems are then. The real problems are deep. It's like regulatory capture, corporatism, corporate welfare, the oligarchy. These are the problems. I said that. It's in the Washington Post. People can go read it because. And the other problem is brutal government reform. And so what the Democrats would say is, oh, look, Donald Trump's dictator. He's coming in and doing dictatory things. Well, when Donald Trump was acting most like a dictator in February, that's when his especially under 40 approval rating was at its highest. His approval rating was at its highest as well. But we have new polls back. Which is closer to your opinion that Donald Trump has done too much of what he promised during the campaign or he has not done enough of what he promised and people say he hasn't done enough. 38% to only 21%. Only one in five Americans say that Donald Trump has done too much of what he promised and he promised retribution. Like, let's be clear, that was part of the promise. And you have Susie Wiles out there saying, look, no, we don't, you know, we should, there should be a time limit. We shouldn't have retribution. Well, how about brutal reform of the government? That's not retribution. That's what Americans demand and what they should be getting out of a president that sits on top of this rotted corpse of the federal government. But the under 30 voters, these Zoomer, Waffen, these people who are just done with performative politics, they don't care about ideology at all. They just want brutal order. These people, 49% of them say he hasn't done enough of what he promised. Only 19% of them say he's done too much. And these under 30 voters, it's actually the under 40s too. They're the ones that agreed most with Donald Trump's quote about Napoleon Bonaparte, he who saves his country, violating snow laws. They're the ones that were most on board with Doge. They're the ones who, most of them, three quarters of them, think that basically every elected official is using their position for ill gotten gain. They're the most likely to want arrests and they're most likely to be concerned about political violence as well. And so the problem is again, I have all these metrics that show that Donald Trump just hasn't delivered. And I understand that this is hard, but we're in a situation where people, in my opinion, don't really want to to play by the rules anymore. Is the government enough doing enough to stop political violence in America? Only 17% of US likely voters say yes, 64% say no. And this is after Donald Trump sent the National Guard to clean up cities to help support ice. And so there's a lot of tools in our toolbox, but this is the same number. Like only 16% said the case is closed on Epstein. And 83% of Trump voters say that government agencies like the FBI and CIA still need major reform. So the job is not done.
Steve Bannon
Mark, we gotta bounce. Where do people go to get your YouTube, all your polling. We're gonna have you back on hopefully tomorrow, the next day, go in more depth. Where do people go until then? Sir?
Dan Caldwell
Yeah, I have a video last night about the Zoomer Waff and go check it out. Rasmussen underscore poll on YouTube and at Twitter. I'm at animus pollster.
Steve Bannon
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Richard Baris
Yeah, absolutely. You know, he threw a lot of good stuff out there last what, A few weeks ago I was on your show and we were talking about the generic ballot being much worse. It is tightening up. We have Republicans down three in the registered voter and then down four in the likely voter. But it was eight a few weeks ago. So I do think we are seeing some correction. This is the thing, though, and this is part of the entire conversation you guys were just having. Trump's approval rating actually recovered quite a bit in our polling, but it didn't benefit Republicans as much as you might think. Think so. I was listening to John Solomon, I'm listening to Mark Mitchell, and I would just throw in there that this has got to be big, right? So the, the voters are not, you know, going to go and go down a checklist of, okay, Trump promised this on the campaign trail. And I got this, this and this. They want big reforms, Steve. They want big moves. And if you want to buck history, you're going to have to make those big moves. So one thing I would argue John Solomon said that was 100% correct and our polling shows it, is that Trump just may have to campaign against his own party here soon to get what he wants. And that threat, well, I actually think that threat will be enough for a lot of people. But he's going to have to do that because the voters now with Trump improving are seeing once again Donald Trump in a different light than they see the Republican Party. And there are voters out there that Republicans haven't earned their votes. I mean, it really is that simple. You know, as much as they may even like Donald Trump or give him a lot of grace because of how much he's been through just as a candidate and a leader of this country, what he's, what he's put in himself through to be where he is today, they give him a lot of grace for that. But that grace does not extend to Republicans. So they better get to work. And the blue slips. Nuke the filibuster. Get to work or you're cooked. Anyway, this is what, this is my message to them. You're cooked.
Steve Bannon
Anyway, they have not gotten that message. And Solomon's right, Bears right, Mitch is right. There's going to be a big old throwdown here, folks, over the Holland over Christmas in the first year. Baris, I want people to go to the People's Pundit to get all the data in the back of this. You and Mitchell, the best. Where do they go, sir?
Richard Baris
We're everywhere. But the best places on locals, guys. People's Pundit locals.com peoplespundant.locals.com you can go look at the poll atbig data poll.com right now. But everything is always up on locals first. All the best.
Steve Bannon
Mitchell and Mitchell and Barris are telling you that they got to get their mind right up there and getting back to Trump or it's going to be. They're going to, it's going to be. They talk about civil war and MAGA and all this. And Candace, Candace and Eric. And hey, the deep fight is right here because the establishment hates Trump. They hate Trump and they're going to try to thwart Trump and that's going to be the big fight we're going to have. Thank you very much, Richard Barris.
Richard Baris
Anytime, Steve. All the best.
Steve Bannon
Candace put out a video last night. I think they had a good meeting yesterday. I think it was in Nashville. They shouldn't put out more information today. So we'll see. That was like two heads of state meeting. It was like Putin and Trump. Okay, I'm super happy here. At 6:00 clock tonight, we're gonna have a special for one hour. I've got Bill Federer, who I think is one of the best historians out there and best, best historians. And turns out is a Christian historian. And of course I got our own Dave Brat Federer. Here's what, here's what we're doing. We're taking James. We're just talking about saving the country and what Trump's doing to save the country. We got James Dobson, we got Jerry Falwell, we got Pat Robertson. I want people to understand how these folks were giants and how they stood in the breach in a time when the country was starting to go off a cliff. And of course people remember President Reagan and what happened then. But if it hadn't been that these three Christian leaders really stepped into the breach and took massive amount of grief, I'm not so sure we would have the country for Trump to come around and even save. Your thoughts, sir?
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, well, I totally agree and I thank you for focusing on them. By the way, I wanted to brag on your daughter Maureen. She did a tremendous job in Seoul, Korea. We were there with her just four days before Charlie was shot. But she is following in your footsteps and she hit a home run. But the three leaders you mentioned, I knew all three of them personally, sort of. I guess I'm getting old, but they all inspired me. They were all great men that were not afraid to address the issues and start off with Pat Robertson, son of a senator, he served in the Marines in the Korean War, went to Yale, and then in 1956 he made a commitment to Christ and that changed the trajectory of his life. He went to a seminary, got a master's in divinity, and then he started CBN in 1960. The first broadcast was on my four year old birthday, October 1, 1961. But it went on to grow to a viewership of literally hundreds of millions worldwide, 70 languages. Gordon Robertson is now the head of IT doing a tremendous job. One of the things superbook for children, believe it or not, that's their most viewed program. Pat was brilliant in addition to being sensitive to the direction of the Holy Spirit and he built a family channel and he sold it to ABC for $1.9 billion. This is back in 1990 and then used a lot of that money endowment for Regent University. So he started Regent in 1977. Christian leadership to change the world. 11,000 students now Gordon is the head of it. Michele Bachman is the head of the School of Government and I've been honored to be on the board of trustees at Regent for the better part of 20 years. And then Operation Blessing started in 1976 and they provide disaster relief in 65 countries. Christian Coalition started in 1987. Ralph Reed, the head of IT now, he branched it, and it's called Faith and Freedom Coalition. And making a tremendous move again. Pat understood that. A little phrase I've used for as long as I can remember. The most important thing is to bring people to Christ, but the second most important thing is to preserve the freedom to do the most important thing right for all those churches that think that they don't want to get involved. Like, if you don't get involved, it's going to be like these other countries around the world where it's going to be illegal. But Pat understood this, and so he realized we had to get involved in politics. Ralph Reed took that by the horns. He ran for President 1988, and then in 1990, founded the ACLJ American center for Law and Justice. Jay Sekulow, now his son Jordan, they've argued over a dozen cases before the Supreme Court defending prayer, religious freedom. And I got a chance to know Pat when I ran for Congress back in the year 2000. He sent a crew out to St. Louis. I was running against Dick Gebhart. Many people remember his name, but he was the number one Democrat in Congress at the time. And then I've been interviewed on the 700 Club and CBN dozens of times. It's always been an honor. And. But again, here's somebody that decided that he wanted to make his life count and realized that it wasn't just spiritual. It was spiritual and then practical, and then being involved in government and then realizing that you have to be courageous. You cannot be afraid of controversy. The fear of man bringeth a snare. And I love the one image on TV of when they were doing the protest of the national anthem. Sam Coonrod, Giants pitcher, only one, not kneeling in protest to the flag. And they asked him afterwards why, and he says, well, I'm a Christian. I just believe you're not supposed to kneel before anybody but God. It's like, wow, right? And Jonathan Isaac, Orlando Magic Ford, did the same thing. He's the only one not to kneel. And he says, well, I'm a Christian. And so it's only where you have respect for God.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, we're gonna. We're gonna get into all three in depth, but I'm limited in time. I want to hit. I want to hit Jerry Falwell. And then Dobson. Tell me about Falwell.
Stephen K. Bannon
So his father was a bootlegger who killed his uncle and died as an alcoholic when Jerry was 15. And then Jerry had an experience with the Lord and his first year of college and then at 22, he was in Lynchburg, Virginia, and started the Thomas Road Baptist Church. His goal was to knock on 100 doors a day, six days a week, and knock on every door. He built this enormous church. Now Jonathan is the head of it. Jonathan Falwell, his Old Time Gospel Hour again took the gospel. But then he founded Liberty University in 1971 and then the Moral Majority in 1979. Again, he realized that you can't sit back and just be within your own four walls. You have to impact. So he was pro family, pro life, pro morals, pro America. And he is credited with delivering the evangelical vote for Ronald Reagan. And he even put like $10 million into ads against Jimmy Carter. And so that was again, that was another person that, that made the difference. And I, he, he endorsed me when I ran to Congress. And he was a tremendous man, defender of, of these values.
Steve Bannon
So we're going to have Falwell, we're going to have Pat Robertson, we're going to go in detail about particularly the time that they came up. Things like Jerry Fall, when he put $10 million against Carter. People, like, freaked out. Tell me about James Dobson. Another. And I became familiar in Jobson. I lived in California. Just an incredible individual.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, well, Dobson was a clinical psychologist. He worked for 14 years at USC, University of Southern California, and then for 17 years at the Children's Hospital in Los Angeles. And this is during the, you know, the 60s, sexual revolution. And so he was dealing with kids from broken homes, troubled families, disintegrating morals. And so in 1970, he wrote a book called Dare to Discipline. And it sold over 3 million copies. It's like, you know, you can discipline your kids instead of letting them be lawless. 1977, he founded Focus in the Family. And 1978, he did a parenting lecture series called Where's Dad? And it was viewed by 100 million people. He co founded the Family Research Center. Right. Gary Bauer was the head of it. Now Tony Perkins and General Jerry Boykin is now there. Suffered a number of his board members and supporters died in a plane crash 1987. It was a setback, but they recovered. In 1991, he moved Focus and the family's headquarters to Colorado Springs. And then he sold hundreds of thousands of copies of my book, America's God and Country Encyclopedia quotations. I was personally introduced to him by Dick Bott of the BOT Radio Network. And so. But here he took his brilliance in medicine, realized that there's this destruction going on in the family. I'm sure you're familiar and your viewers are with the Congressman Albert herlong reading the 45 goals of communism to overthrow America, sort of rot it from the inside. And it was specifically destroy the family, destroy the morals, push all this sexual promiscuity. And so Dobson addressed this head on and he says, we need to care about the kids. You can't sit back. You know, I tell people it's a pretty clever trick the devil's pulled to get Christians who believe the gospel of Christ let their children be taught the gospel of Antichrist. It's like, oh, we're so spiritual. We don't get involved in politics. Okay, well who's then going to be involved in teaching your kids?
Dan Caldwell
Right?
Stephen K. Bannon
Ungodly people. And they're gonna teach an ungodly message.
Steve Bannon
So Bill, we're gonna Bill Hanger, we're gonna have you back at six o' clock tonight. I need people go to your website to get your books. One of the best writers out there. We're gonna talk about your books in depth. In the interim, where do people go?
Stephen K. Bannon
It's American minute dot com.
Steve Bannon
Thank you. Okay, we'll see you at six o'.
Dan Caldwell
Clock.
Steve Bannon
Bill Federer and Dave Bratt will join me for an entire hour to go through the three giants, James Dobson, Jerry Falwell and of course Pat Robertson. Short commercial break. Back in a moment. If you could make one holiday wish, would you wish to be free from your credit card and other debt? Let's see if we can help you with that. If we could give yourself one gift this holiday season, would it be finally to get some relief from your credit card and other debt? I might have a solution. Here's why. Now's the time to make a move. This time of year, credit card and loan companies close out their books. They clean up past due accounts. They sell a write off the debt to clear their books. That means if you have credit card debt and unpaid bills, lenders may be more open to negotiating and settling your account before you're in. That means right now, and I mean right now, you may actually have leverage. And done with debt knows how to use this to your advantage. They monitor lender trends and understand the year end pressure on creditors. They use that timing to negotiate hard on your behalf. Now's the time to get out from under crushing debt and interest payments without bankruptcy or taking on new loans. Done with, that goes to work for you. Month one with one clear goal, to reduce your total debt and leave you with more money every month. Get started now because your leverage may disappear at the end of the year. Chat with a done with debt specialist@donewithdat.com that's done with debt.com donewithdet.com do it today.
Stephen K. Bannon
War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
Steve Bannon
Dave, Brett, give me two minutes. Tonight you're going to be back with me for an hour with Bill Federer for the three giants, Dobson, Falwell and Robertson. Give me two minutes on this.
Richard Baris
Yeah, yeah. Here's the teaser for tonight. Everybody says, you know, we care about Western civilization. Everybody agrees politics is downstream from culture. Well, guess what the culture in this country is. It's Christianity that is the culture. And if you don't stick the landing, we're in deep trouble. Here's what Jerry Falwell senior said years ago at launch. Paul Weyrich, one of my very dear friends and a great American, looked across the table at me and said, jerry, there is in America a moral majority that agrees about the basic issues, but they're not organized. They don't have a platform. The media ignore them. Somebody's got to get that moral majority together. So they combined, as Bill just said, they combined Jerry Falwell's 50 million regular viewers in America, Pat Robertson, 30 million, James Dobson, half a million listeners weekly. They combine that into a force. We need to get the band back together. Everything rides on that. His message is, we have forsaken God and this show is bringing it back.
Steve Bannon
These three gentlemen stepped into the breach when the country needed it. We need it again. And we need to remember there were men and women that came before Schlafly in this crowd. Are giants. Are giants. We need to understand why. They were giants and they all had one common quality, one common quality, courage. These were courageous individuals put online. We're going to go through at six o' clock tonight. Dobson, Falwell, Robertson, Bill Federer. Dave. Brett. Dave, thank you so much. Dave. Give your social media. Where do people go?
Richard Baris
Yeah, just Brad Economics. Get her an X.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, brother. See you at six, Bill Federer. See you at six.
Mike Lindell
You bet.
Steve Bannon
We go through Federer's books too. Great writer, Comstock. Make America healthy again, brother. Talk to me particularly. I want to send people to the website. I want to see him, the reviews, this guy. And the reason that I think people love Trevor Comstock is the fact that this is all kind of handcrafted that when he say sacred human, you really take this so seriously. I've not met a young guy like yourself and starting a company that is just so it's got to be like this. It's got to be perfect. Boom. What do you got for us?
Trevor Comstock
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Steve Bannon
Where do they go right now when everybody go to the site, see the reviews, see the products and they can get in touch with you personally where they go.
Trevor Comstock
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Steve Bannon
Thank you, brother. Appreciate you.
Trevor Comstock
Thank you.
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Steve Bannon
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Date: December 16, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon (WarRoom.org)
Summary by Podcast Summarizer
This episode centers on the threats facing America’s political system and its Christian-cultural heritage. Steve Bannon convenes political commentators, pollsters, investigative journalists, and Christian historians to dissect the legislative and spiritual battlegrounds shaping the nation's future. Topics range from US-European defense commitments and the legal battles of the Trump administration, to the legacy of Christian leaders in American politics and current polling data on the MAGA movement.
“The actual Article 5 guarantee obliges you to do absolutely nothing if a NATO ally is attacked… What is being talked about here is going to bind you, America, into defending Ukraine.” – Ben Harnwell (01:04)
“That's the only phone call that Steve Whitcock needs to make to anybody in continental Europe, including Ukraine and Russia. Have at it. We're out.” – Ben Harnwell (02:47)
“That would give more power to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff... It would be against Goldwater Nichols.” – Dan Caldwell (04:13)
“It's time to go Frank Rizzo on the subversive groups of Brown University. Knock on every single door…find out what happened... That's how radical Temple University was. You had the national Marxist convention of the Black Panthers.”– Jack Posobiec (05:02)
“Donald John Trump... really admires him. Trust me.” – Steve Bannon (06:23)
“When I'm done with these anti police scum, I'll make Attila the Hun look like a fairy.”– Attributed by Jack Posobiec (06:38)
“This practice has got to end. There is no excuse for it still existing other than making senators feel powerful.” – Grayson Mo (09:41)
“The FBI, the Washington field office... was telling the Biden Justice Department there was not a probable cause to raid Mar-A-Lago. That is significant...These are emails and memos from inside the Washington field office...” – John Solomon (12:37)
“It could be a disbarable offense if you lied as a lawyer. And of course it gives President Trump a tort...on the civil side.” – John Solomon (13:33)
“It turns out The Little Rock U.S. attorney's office and the FBI had an ongoing investigation looking at the transfer...of uranium...to Vladimir Putin... I'm going to predict that there is a smoking gun still to be released.” – John Solomon (18:35)
“The American public don’t want to hear about legacy, they want to hear about action... treat this as a moment of war.” – John Solomon (20:28)
“If they can't do it, then he campaigns against his own party for a few months.” – John Solomon (21:52)
“Only 17% of likely voters say the government is doing enough to stop political violence…64% say no.” – Mark Mitchell (27:44)
“They want big reforms, Steve. They want big moves...Trump just may have to campaign against his own party.” – Richard Baris (32:20)
“The most important thing is to bring people to Christ, but the second most important thing is to preserve the freedom to do the most important thing.” – Bill Federer (37:15)
This episode blends “war room” political strategy with cultural defense of the Christian West. From legislative bottlenecks to DOJ scandals, and from polling analyses to the legacies of key evangelical leaders, the message is clear: decisive action, principled leadership, and cultural courage are viewed as essential for America’s future.
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