Episode 5002: Press Conference On The Brown Assassination

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room

Episode 5002: Press Conference On The Brown Assassination
Date: December 16, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Featured Guests: Jack Posobiec, Law Enforcement, University & Government Officials (Providence Police, FBI, Rhode Island Governor, Brown University President)

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the official press conference regarding the recent targeted shooting at Brown University. Stephen K. Bannon and his team provide real-time analysis and commentary as law enforcement and university officials respond to community concerns, outline ongoing investigations, and answer questions from the press. The episode highlights public frustration with the investigation, scrutiny of campus security, and debates around the communication approach and transparency from both law enforcement and Brown University.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Timeline of Events and Investigation Status

• Timestamps:
  • Description of shooter movements: [00:00–04:03]
  • Video analysis and police outreach: [07:47–10:04]
• Authorities released a series of timestamped security videos showing the person of interest moving through the vicinity hours before and after the shooting.
• Notable is a 30-minute window during which the suspect is without a satchel ([00:00–01:30]), which appears again right before the shooting.
• Enhanced police presence in and around Brown University's campus and the wider Providence area has been put in place for public reassurance.

2. Nature and Targeting of the Attack

• The attack is confirmed as targeted, not indiscriminate ([04:15–04:31]).
• Direct reference to the shooter sparing a TA and targeting specific victims:
  “It was not indiscriminate. Spares the TA and then targets Ella Cook, this young girl.” — Commentator/Analyst [04:27]

3. Official Law Enforcement Updates

• Providence Police:
  • Chief Colonel Oscar Perez stresses the importance of public assistance in reviewing security footage, notably from residents and Teslas ([07:47–10:04]).
  • Confirmed hundreds of tips received, with approximately 200 deemed actionable ([08:15]).
  • Acknowledgment of the suspect casing the neighborhood as early as 10:30am the day of the shooting ([19:21–19:30]).
• FBI:
  • 30 specialists, agents, and analysts from around the country have been deployed to support the survivors ([10:04–11:15]).
  • The FBI Victim Services Response Team is onsite, serving those affected.

4. University and Local Government Responses

• Attorney General Peter Nerona:
  • Emphasized professionalism and diligence in the ongoing investigation ([11:22–12:11]).
  • Explained camera coverage limitations due to the building’s age and structure ([25:30–26:51]).
• Rhode Island Governor & Mayor:
  • State and city working group being formed for campus safety and mental health ([12:24]).
  • Enhanced presence of state police around schools, and joint sessions with university leadership.
• Brown University:
  • President Christina Paxson asserts commitment to transparency, safety, and cooperation with investigators ([13:35–14:47]).
  • Clarifies the function of campus alert systems and addresses criticism regarding the lack of siren activation ([36:31–37:45]).

5. Public & Reporter Criticisms

• Questions from both public and press about the missing or slow collection of security footage from area merchants ([22:25–24:47]).
• Skepticism over reasons for limited video release, with explanations given about older/less-covered areas of campus and the need for relevant images ([25:30–26:51]).

6. Rumors, Social Media, and Alleged Cover-Ups

• Concerns raised over webpages or social media profiles being scrubbed, possibly tied to rumors about the suspect's identity or motives ([27:46–28:12], [46:24–48:23]).
• Officials repeatedly warn about drawing conclusions from such speculation:
  “There are lots of reasons why a page might be taken down... That’s a really dangerous road to go down.” — Attorney General Peter Nerona [48:28]
• Attacks on the press for “bringing up” motives related to ethnicity, politics, or culture ([48:23–50:38]).

7. Post-Conference Commentary by Bannon and Posobiec

• Bannon and Jack Posobiec express significant skepticism about the handling and transparency of the investigation ([58:43–63:29]).
• Critique of law enforcement’s adversarial tone:
  “I've never seen it. They ask the people for tips, then they start yelling at people for sending in tips... They're not making any sense up there.” — Jack Posobiec [60:21]
• Discussion around social media accounts being taken down and speculation that the authorities know more than disclosed:
  “There was an individual whose name has been scrubbed from that Brown University's website… police were aware of this and were looking into him.” — Jack Posobiec [61:34]
• Suggestions that officials are shutting down lines of inquiry relating to the shooter's possible political or cultural motives.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the targeted nature of the attack:
  "It was not indiscriminate. Spares the TA and then targets Ella. Cook, this young girl." — Commentator/Analyst [04:27]

• On the importance and challenges of reviewing footage:
  “We’re looking for a moment that is shorter than somebody taking a breath. It’s incredible hard work to do that. And so we’re asking the public to assist us…” — Providence Police Chief Perez [08:57]

• On institutional transparency:
  “The shooter is responsible. Horrific gun violence took the lives of these students and hospitalized others.” — Brown University President Christina Paxson [13:49]

• On limited camera coverage:
  “So the building is on the edge of the Brown campus… older part in the back… there are fewer if any cameras in that location… If we thought it was at all helpful, we would have and will release it.” — Attorney General Peter Nerona [25:30–26:51]

• On questions about a possible cover-up and motive:
  “There is no information that the investigative team has about motive. There’s nothing about... indicating any kind of motive that is related at all to ethnicity or political outlook or culture.” — Attorney General Peter Nerona [49:57–50:38]

• Bannon/Posobiec analysis:
  “They’re yelling at the public. They’re not providing any information to people. They said, what did the guy yell? They can’t tell you what the guy yelled.” — Jack Posobiec [60:21]

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Timeline of Important Segments

• [00:00–04:03]: Video timeline and person of interest’s movements
• [07:47–10:04]: Police request for public’s help in reviewing footage
• [10:04–13:35]: Statements from FBI, Attorney General, Governor, and University
• [19:12–24:47]: Q&A on timeline, suspect’s movements, and police canvassing
• [25:30–26:51]: Details of campus camera limitations and evidence sharing
• [36:31–37:45]: University alert protocols and criticism of siren non-usage
• [48:23–50:38]: Addressing internet rumor, motive speculation, and press criticism
• [58:43–63:29]: Post-conference debrief from Bannon and Posobiec

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Tone & Language

Throughout the press conference, officials maintain a formal, cautious, and often defensive tone—emphasizing the complexity of the case and the need to avoid speculation. In contrast, the War Room analysis is combative, critical, and at times conspiratorial, underscoring perceived bureaucratic failings and a lack of candor from authorities.

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Conclusion

This episode thoroughly covers the law enforcement investigation and university response to the Brown University shooting, highlighting public frustrations, investigative challenges, and ongoing efforts to secure and reassure the Providence community. The latter part of the episode amplifies skepticism about transparency and motives, framing the official response as inadequate and evasive in the eyes of War Room commentators.

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Transcript

[News Anchor]

Shows him at various points in the hours before the shooting. In it, one of them could be showing him walking in the. In the approximate area of the building where the shooting occurred, possibly right after the shooting. I'll take you through what we've been able to go through. There are a few videos that show him walking on Cook street, on George street and on Benevolent streets in the 2 o' clock PM hour at at least one of these videos appears to be from a ring cam on a door of a home. At least one of the videos shows him jogging along a sidewalk at one point. I believe that video shows him jogging along a fence, along a sidewalk. There are, there's one. The timeline indicates there's a 30 minute gap where he does not have a satchel with him between 2:20pm and 2:50pm on that day. And at about 2:51pm there are images of him carrying a satchel. The Providence police also a couple of hours ago released a still image of this person carrying a satchel. And you get kind of a good look at the kind of build he has and him carrying a satchel with kind of a two tone jacket in those still photos. Also, Boris, there's one video with a timestamp showing that the shooting occurs at 4:03pm on Saturday. The next video shows. Shows the person of interest walking right in front of a police car that's pulling up with its lights on. That would possibly, and again, we're not sure about this possibly indicate that that might be right after the shooting, that the police car could be responding to the shooting. But basically, Boris, this is a series of timestamped videos. Most of them I believe are in the 2 o' clock p.m. eastern Time hour. And that would be a couple of hours before the shooting occurs at just after 4:00pm and again, I'll go through what we've been able to see in these timestamp videos. The person of interest is shown walking along Cook street, along George street and along Benevolent Streets in Providence at various points in the 2 o' clock PM hour. At certain points, I believe there is one video that is similar to a video that was released yesterday showing him walking across a street. Most of these videos show him walking fairly casually. There is one video that shows him turning abruptly. Actually there are two videos that I saw, excuse me, one showing him turning abruptly and then jogging the other way and another video just showing him jogging. Again, we seem to have a 30 minute gap between pieces of video between 2:20pm and 2:51pm where he does not appear to be carrying a satchel. But then there is one image of him from 2.51pm on Saturday where he is carrying a satchel. And again, there is one video with the timestamp showing that the shooting occurs at 4:03pm the next video shows the person of interest walking right in front of a police car that's pulling up with its lights on, seemingly indicating that he is walking in front of that police car just after the shooting. But it's not, not quite clear. We're going to get some of these specifics and some of these answers from officials who will hold a news conference at about 5pm Eastern Time today. Boris. And we can kind of give you a little bit more detail of this, but between these timestamp videos, Boris, and the still picture that was put out a couple of hours ago by the Providence police, you are getting many, many more looks at this person of interest now and the way he walks and the way he's dressed and his build and the fact that he, at certain, in certain images that they've released, is carrying a black satchel strapped over his shoulder. And at other times during these videos and still images, he is not carrying that satchel. So, you know, again, why that is. We're going to hopefully get some of those answers a little bit later today. But the bottom line here is, Boris, that now the public has many, many more images of this person to go by as far as the way he looks, what he was wearing, his build, the way he walks. And of course, police and the FBI and others are hoping this will really speed up the timeline here for his capture.

[Reporter]

This was not something where he was.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Walking around on campus firing indiscriminately, which unfortunately we have seen many times in these mass shootings. This was targeted.

[Reporter]

This was clearly targeted. And we can see it in the choice of the targets.

[Commentator/Analyst]

It was not indiscriminate. Spares the TA and then targets Ella.

[Reporter]

Cook, this young girl.

[Commentator/Analyst]

So as an investigation, that's something you have to look at. And Steve, quite frankly, you got to go Frank Rizzo. You got to go full Frank Rizzo. When it comes to this.

[Reporter]

When you have a situation like this.

[Commentator/Analyst]

You got to go to every single one of these subversive groups that are on campus, and you should be rounding them up and pulling them all in for questioning and saying, dude, you know this guy? Do you know anyone who looks like that guy? You look kind of like this guy. Where were you on that day?

[Reporter]

Where were you on Saturday, 4pm why.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Weren'T you around on Saturday, 4pm what's your alibi? And just go in every single.

[Host]

Okay. Our coal opens. Cut. Jack, pos with us. We're going to go live to the press conference in Providence, Rhode Island. Let's take it here. Jack will jump in.

[Reporter]

That video was released just a little while ago. You can see Camille or Julie and they can send that to you while we're reporting. Additionally, Camille and Julie are your contact to be on the press distribution list to be advised of future announcements. At this time, I'll introduce Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

Thank you, Mayor. So, as the mayor stated, we're about to show you a video that we can have the IT officer.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Thank you, Joe.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

So, as the mayor stated, if you don't have these videos, please let us know. And the reason we have shown these videos, there's a purpose, right? So as you can see, they're enhanced photos. There's enhanced video footage. And so we're asking the public to ensure that they can see here that you want to focus on the body movements, the way the person moves their arms, the body posture, the way they carry their weight. I think those are important movement patterns that may help you identify this individual, which is extremely important. Another thing that we're going to ask the public is if you have any type of camera system, including Teslas, in your property. In this video that you just saw behind me, it all comes from the residential block of Waterman Avenue, Power Ives and Hope Street. And it's those residential areas that we're asking the public to look. If you have any camera systems or any Teslas, like I mentioned, that you look at that footage and that you can reach out to us and please provide us anything that you have. And we're asking you to go back at least a week to do that. And the reason for that is because on Saturday night, the day off, we actually learned that this individual was in that neighborhood around 10:30 in the morning. We also know in this profession that many criminals will case out an area weeks and days prior. And so it's important for us to ensure that we can have you look at that and help us. And the reason for that is because our offices, our agents, are looking at terabytes of data and we're looking for a moment that is shorter than somebody taking a breath. It's incredible hard work to do that. And so we're asking the public to assist us with that. The other thing is the tip center. We have been receiving hundreds of tips. However, we're about close to 200 actionable tips that we still conduct investigations on, which is incredible and is important. Again, keep in mind that this video footage is extremely important to us. And one more thing here that as a reminder, please remember that the number that we need you to call is 401-272-3121, as well as the link at the end, FBI provider, which is FBI.gov gov Brown University students, thank you very much.

[Reporter]

Thank you, Colonel. Now we'll hear from FBI Special Agent in Charge Ted Docks. Well, thank you, Mayor, and good evening. My name is Ted Docks. I'm the Special Agent in charge of FBI Boston. From the heels of this tragedy, special strength and resilience of the people of Providence is a powerful reminder of the bonds that unite us. The men and women of the FBI, along with the law enforcement team standing before you, carry the victims with us as we work around the clock to bring the individual responsible for their injuries and deaths to justice. Today, the FBI is working with Brown University to do everything we can to provide services to those impacted by this horrific shooting. The FBI has almost 30 victim specialists, special agents and analysts from all over the country who are here in Providence to support our survivors, the victims and their loved ones. The FBI Victim Services Response Team is one of the many specialized FBI assets that have been deployed here to assist. The toll this type of tragedy takes on victims and their families is immeasurable, and we ask everyone to respect their privacy at this difficult time.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Thank you.

[Reporter]

Thank you, Special Agent. Next, Attorney General Peter Nerona.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Thank you, Mayor.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

I don't have a lot to add other than that. From my perspective, I think the investigation in a case like this, which is a challenging one, is going really well.

[Commentator/Analyst]

The.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

On the third floor of this building, there are dozens of agents, detectives, led by Providence police, prosecutors from my office, working to put together. And what you're seeing is just a portion of what they're working on right now. So they are, literally, because I have seen at least part of it. The shift changes late at night. I think Rhode Islanders should take confidence in their work. They are veterans of what they do. They're smart, they're professional, and they. They're getting the resources from the mayor and the governor that they need the state police as well to get this job done. And I'm confident they're going to be.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Able to do that.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Just need a little bit of patience, as hard as it is to say that in this really horrible context.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Thank you.

[Reporter]

Thank you, General. Governor Damicke for an update now. Thanks, Mayor.

[Host]

And right off the top, we're just making sure that we're.

[Reporter]

The state is supporting Providence, Brown University.

[Host]

And then working with the FBI as well as our state police and the attorney general to continue to provide information.

[Reporter]

To the people in the state of Rhode Island.

[Host]

My information is that recently, this morning, today, we met with all the university presidents in the state of Rhode Island.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

We know that we want to start.

[Host]

A working group that will talk about enhancing safety issues.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

And you'll see shortly that we'll be.

[Reporter]

Doing the same thing in terms of mental health issues. And I think that's important.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

As I'm out and about, we're hearing.

[Reporter]

A great deal of anxiety coming from.

[Host]

Families and students and the general public. And that's one of the reasons why our state police are supported for the.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

Prominent schools with presence as school begins.

[Reporter]

And school ends in support of the.

[Host]

Mayor and his efforts to support the schools.

[Reporter]

Thank you, Governor. We're also joined tonight by Brown University President Christina Patson.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

Thank you, Mayor. I want to begin by thanking the many law enforcement agencies who continue to work around the clock on this case. It's very impressive. I also want to thank the mayor and the governor for their continued support.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Support.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

The primary point that I wanted to address before we get to questions is that Brown is deeply committed to the safety and security and well being of our community. And I've been deeply saddened to see people questioning that. We understand that as time goes on, there is maybe a natural instinct to assign responsibility for a tragic event like this. Anxiety and fear is very natural, but the shooter is responsible. Horrific gun violence took the lives of these students and hospitalized others. And it's deeply sad and tragic that schools across the country are targets of violence. Brown is no exception. We are cooperating fully with law enforcement. And again, we thank the multiple agencies that have been working so hard day and night with increased patrols to keep our campus safe and to investigate this horrific shooting.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Thank you.

[Reporter]

Thank you, President Paxton. I'll give a couple updates on behalf of the city and then we'll take your questions.

[Commentator/Analyst]

First.

[Reporter]

As has been discussed many times, we continue to have enhanced police presence throughout the city of Providence to help bolster the confidence and provided a sense of additional security to our residents. Today we were aided by neighboring municipalities in Central Falls and North Providence with supplemental officers. We're grateful to our neighbors for sticking up and standing up with Providence. The state police continues to be an incredible partner and I thank the governor and Colonel Weaver for their partnership. Providence Public Schools remain in session. Friday is the last day of school before winter Break spent some time at our schools again today. As has been the case in the past, the schools in the area of Brown are having regular police presence. And with because of the assistance of the Rhode Island State Police, we've been able to provide additional police presence and coverage to other schools in Providence. We thank them for that. When I was at one of our elementary schools this morning, the faculty were having a brief meeting before kids started to arrive. And in discussion with some of the teachers, I asked how they were doing. One of the teachers said what I think a lot of us are feeling. She said, you know, it's hard, but I'm putting on a good face for the kids. We need to be here for them. And I think that's how a lot of our residents feel right now, which is that we are taking, taking very tentative steps forward, but we're doing it for one another. And so I do want to thank our educators at this time. They're being asked to go to school right now. Our principals are asked to be going to school right now for the sake of the families and the kids. And at that same school, there was a second grader literally skipping to the front door because he's a second grader and he doesn't know everything that's going on in this scary world right now. And so the strength of the adults has allowed that little kid to skip to school this morning. And so I want to thank all of my fellow residents of Providence for putting on a strong face for the sake of others at this time. There were questions yesterday, and so I'll also just give a brief update on the health status of the survivors. If folks will recall. There have been eight hospitalized, one has since been discharged. There have been nine, eight hospitalized, one has since been discharged. The seven that remain in the hospital, one is in critical status, one five in critical but stable status. Although healthcare providers report that they are improving and one in stable status. Those are the seven. One in critical, five in critical but stable, one in stable status, and one discharged since the last time we made comments about their safety and recovery. From the podium now we'll open it up to questions.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

So the question was if I could just repeat what I stated earlier in English as far as the. What occurred here, the reasons for the video and why I was question for the public.

[News Anchor]

You said that I believe this person was in the neighborhood at 10:30. Clarify at 10:30, the morning of the shooting, and what do you believe he was doing there at that time?

[Commentator/Analyst]

Correct.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

And we have, we have video footage of that and we believe that he was actually casing out this area to commit the crime.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Is.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

No, that's a pattern that criminals do and that's what he was doing.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

Chief, yesterday the FBI described the person.

[Reporter]

That we've been seeing in these images.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

As a suspect today, the one who.

[Reporter]

Seems to be person of interest. Can you clarify? Do you believe that this person that we're looking at is your shooter, Is your shooting suspect?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

Definitely still a person of interest and we're still investigating that to be able to get that insert. But we strongly believe that we suspect in the incident and a person of interest.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

An MIT professor, died earlier this morning from gunshot wounds. Does that incident have any potential connection to this investigation?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

I don't know.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

I can just ask you. Yesterday we were wondering about this person's age.

[Reporter]

Now that we've seen more video again.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

A couple of days ago. I know you're saying 20s or some talk about 30s, but just to help.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

People at home, people have seen this video.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Do profilers or anyone in your department.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Department.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

Have any better understanding a closer idea on his age?

[Reporter]

And the second part of that question.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Is can you not confirm that he has no connection as a past student or as a past staff member at the university?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

So the first question, I'll tell you that the first, when it happened on Saturday night, obviously it was chaos and there was a witness that stated that he might have been in his 30s. At this point, we're still just looking at the picture. We haven't identified ages or anything to that point. And as far as whether he's a problem student or anything, we don't have any illnesses.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Now, Carl, in one of the new videos prior to the shooting, this person of interest is seen running at this point. Do you have any inkling why he's running?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

Yeah, we're still investigating that, but we do know definitely that he was facing the area and again, that's what criminals do prior to committing crime.

[Reporter]

Chris, it appears that the FBI and pp, according to what I'm looking online, look like they're releasing separate videos at separate times.

[Host]

Or are you guys still coordinating or.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

We, you got to understand that there's a lot of people upstairs as the general state area and we're trying to ensure that we do this for our job and collect the evidence and that we need and we want to make sure that everybody has the especially you.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Guys in the public.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

One thing I want to make sure that the community safe, well informed and stay confident in the work that we're doing. So, yes, there was a video that was released. We also were working on another video. And the purpose of this, this press conference is to ensure that the public can see those videos showing movements like I stated earlier, the way, the way the person walks, the way they carry their weight. That's the importance. So our video that. Sorry, the second video that we showed was the one that we needed to.

[Reporter]

Show the public just in terms of.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

Cameras inside and outside the engineering building. Are those working at all? And if so, why not release some of those videos?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

So the video that we showed you came from inside the building. And that's all we had at the moment. That was all we have at this moment.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

Inside the engineering building though. From the outside.

[Commentator/Analyst]

From the.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

So do you have video from inside the engineering.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

Both inside and outside. I'm sorry, just outside. That's all we have. Not inside. No, I'm sorry, just outside.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

Are they going to be released anytime soon?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

That was released already. That was the outside of the building we released.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Let me just jump here and clarify. Okay, so there is, you know, for those of you who've been with us before, I understand not all of you have been. There is video inside the building. There are cameras inside the building. What we have released to you are videos of this person of interest. So I want to be clear because later on there may be other videos that get released in the course of a prosecution, likely will be at some point. They show things like chaos after the shooting. What they don't show is the, is this person of interest. And so that's why we haven't released those videos.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Okay.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

What you do have are videos from a camera outside of the brown building and other cameras from around the neighborhood that the good men and women in law enforcement located and put together in this montage. To your question, Chris, there are two versions of that video. But the bottom line is, as I understand it, they depict the same thing. And number one, and number two, the agencies are working very, very well together, as I think the special agent in charge would agree.

[Reporter]

We've got a follow up and then we're going here.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

Just to clarify, there's no clear video of the suspect inside the engineering?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

That's correct.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

Now can I just ask as well further to the, to the surveillance footage that you have received. I've been here since Saturday speaking to people who are living in the residential buildings around and in the businesses. And many of the stories, store clerks there have told me it wasn't until this morning that the police have actually come to ask them if they had any, anything that they could Offer any CCTV or any evidence that they could provide. Why has it taken three days for these people to have the police come to them to ask them for assistance?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

As I stated earlier is a residential block that includes a lot of homes, a lot of different camera footage and it takes a lot of work in the sense that there's a lot of terabytes that we're looking at in order to be able to analyze it, pull what we need. And sometimes it's just a moment that we need and it's almost sure that somebody taking a breath. So it takes a lot of work. And then so once that leads us to the next location and so we move strategically, we have to pull the video, download it, analyze it, investigate it, and then move forward.

[Reporter]

Mr. Attorney General.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Yeah, I just want to jump in there too because I think I want to clarify in a sense what the chief is saying. So you start in the grid. In the first instance, it's closest to brown. It takes a lot of work to canvas that area and then you build out as you learn more about the path of travel. So it's entirely possible that tomorrow we'll be canvassing places that we haven't canvassed yet because we're working out with the resources that we have.

[Reporter]

You have a question to follow up, right?

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Yes, my first question, Attorney General, to.

[Reporter]

Follow up with my colleague, this is the question I asked on Saturday night, which is so there's cameras in the hallway, but they don't show the suspect.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Or Brown is not releasing them or.

[Reporter]

You'Re not releasing them to us. How does a multi million dollar school.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Not have a bunch of cameras in the hallway? So let me try to explain that. So as President Patson knows, there was a major addition put on that building within the last five years or so, that that is a modern building attached to a much older one in the back. So it doesn't come as a surprise to me at least that there are cameras in the newer part of the building and there is video footage. Okay, so there's the back part of the building, old part and front part, new part. The shooting occurs in the old part, towards the back, up towards Hope street in that older part of the building. There are fewer if any cameras in that location, I imagine because it's an older building. So as students are fleeing the area of the shooting into the new part of the building, there are cameras in that brand new building that show that chaos. But the only, but the only, the only video of the presumed anticipated suspected. However you want to define a Person of interest. You have it? We would release it if we thought it would be helpful in identifying this subject because we are relying on the press and public to help get us there. There would be no reason for us to hold it back.

[Reporter]

Dan, got a follow up.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Pretty general.

[Reporter]

Thank you for explaining that because it really clarifies it. Although I'm sure some people watching would.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

Think a multimillion dollar school with a.

[Reporter]

Huge endowment could afford new cameras in an old building. That's my statement. Here's my question. If he's casing that area, Colonel, like.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

You said, he had an intended target.

[Reporter]

Which speaks to the motive. Did he have a target to kill one of the two people that were killed?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

Still investigating the dead and something that we probably get the answers as well.

[Reporter]

So Patrick, a lot of Patrick.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Reporter]

For President Paxson. Have you two related. Have you reviewed any communications to President before the shooting that revealed any kind of threat of any kind to anyone at Brown? And then since the shooting, I believe some web pages for students or faculty have been taken down. Is that a response to any external threats to anyone in the community?

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

We have been working very closely with law enforcement to provide them with all of the internal to ground information that they need need to do this investigation. It's their investigation. They're the professional. So we're providing information. We're not in the job of reviewing it for them. I know nothing about webpages being taken down as part of this. It's the first I've heard of.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

In the back.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Yeah.

[Reporter]

You want people to feel safe. Can you say this person of interest is no longer in Providence, no longer in Rhode Island? Are they out of the state? Any sense at all? I can speak to the investigation and if there's, if there's a follow up for either the general or the Colonel, I'm sure they'd be happy to answer it. But I'll restate what I've said several times now, which remains true as. As another day passes. Since the initial call came in at 4:05pm on Saturday, we have not received the. This is now updated with another 24 hours have passed. A single credible, specific threat to the area, to the city related to this event and as far as I know, to the state and, and I know that this is a question that many people are struggling with and it's difficult conversations that I've had with many, many of my constituents, including a very anxious parent this morning. The best information we have is that there is no credible, actionable, specific threat that has occurred Since Saturday and in order to enhance and ensure the safety of our community, we have stepped up law enforcement efforts throughout the city in a precautionary measure, an abundance of caution to try to give comfort and confidence to people who have to take the steps forward in their daily lives, who have to take their kids to school, who have to get to work. And that is, that is the honest answer, the best answer we have at this time. As the days continue to pass, can.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

You tell us where you believe he may be?

[Reporter]

Is he in the state?

[Commentator/Analyst]

Is he in the States? United. There we go.

[Reporter]

So that question was asked as well. So Colonel, I'll let you answer that.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

Yeah, we'll continue to investigate that. That's not, Listen, we're looking for Saint Mrs. As the mayor stated, we haven't really received, received any credible info as far as any, any, any other closer to that nature. But I'll tell you that we have enhanced our presence in a part of the city and we're using every resource we have and every call that comes in, we responded to it immediately.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

Are you working with any neighboring states?

[Reporter]

It's Pat. So we're working our way across here.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Pat.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Pat for Coalition Radio.

[Reporter]

In a case involving a hit and run accident in the vicinity of Brown University that was litigated by the Office.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Of Attorney General in Ron in 2023.

[Reporter]

Brown University Police Detective John Remka stated.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

That the university maintained several thousand video.

[Reporter]

Surveillance cameras and license plates on Brown.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

University campus and surrounding campus.

[Reporter]

Now this is a deficient obviously.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Attorney.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

General Naroda, your department litigate that case essentially do your department thoroughly.

[Reporter]

Why isn't there more video or metadata.

[Commentator/Analyst]

And were those cameras all operational?

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Yeah, I can't speak to what was operational or wasn't but I will say this, that I've answered this question a few times today and I'll try to do my best to answer it again. So somebody reported maybe in the Globe that there are 800 cameras responsible. So on the campus might be below 1200. But this building is on the very edge of the campus. If you know I know that building well. I have two sons who went, spent a good chunk of their lives there. It's at the very edge of the campus. It's not in the heartland of the campus. It's not the green and there are several greens. It's not any of the three greens as I remember them. So it's right on the edge of the campus and where the shooting took place is at the very edge of that building, on the edge of the Campus. And so, as those of you who know Providence know, you are very quickly into a residential neighborhood, which is why the video footage you're seeing of this defendant's. Excuse me, wrong word. Person of interest movements. Excuse me, are pre and post shooting, are in that neighborhood. So the building is on the edge of the Brown campus where the shooting took place. It's at the edge of that building. And then you're very quickly into a residential neighborhood. There is no footage. I'll try to say it again. There is no footage that depicts this individual that would be useful in identifying him that we have not released to you. And I think you can tell from, frankly, the not very helpful quality of the initial footage that our standard is pretty low. If we thought it was at all helpful, we would have in will release it.

[Reporter]

John, follow up question.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Real quick.

[Reporter]

Follow up, Carl.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Does Brown University or the federal government employ Stingray or any other Master Balance.

[Reporter]

Equipment in and around the Brown University campus?

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

And again, remember that the Brown University.

[Reporter]

Detective said that these apply and said.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

These cameras extend in the neighborhood.

[Reporter]

So the other question is, does Master Balance by Brown University end at campus.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Borders, or is there anything in this Ferris street community?

[Reporter]

Yes, that area or anywhere else. You asked me this question last night, Pat, and I don't have any knowledge of those systems.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

I'm not asking you. I asking the Attorney General or the FBI. Okay, yeah, there, There. There is no mass surveillance. Well, first of all, I'm not sure what mass surveillance means, Pat, but. But by any standard, I. I wouldn't describe it as mass surveillance, but by Brown University, there are cameras that they have in place in an effort to protect their students. And unfortunately, here, given location, given age of building there, we just don't have additional video footage. I wish we. Trust me, I wish we did, but we don't. And so we're doing everything we can to find additional footage from the neighborhoods, reinvent his path of travel, and continue to canvas for even people who may have seen him, encountered him, or who have video evidence that can supplement what you already have.

[Reporter]

John, I have a question for Agent Knox. Agent? So this happened Saturday night, and then last night we have an MIT professor. I know the question was asked, but this has the work. What we see on this video is seemingly someone very cautious, almost like a professional, kind of like the DC pipe bomber that is circling several times what information you have that MIT's Jewish professor replied, basically executed. Do you have any intelligence how that person was operating yet? You know, it's. It's interesting.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Colonel.

[Reporter]

Colonel, Noble reached out to me very early, their lead on that particular incident. He made sure that if there's any intelligence, any information, information which is connected to what we have here, that they would share that at this time, there seems to be no connection as it relates to that particular incident. As a FBI agency. What do you see in that individual who's walking, for example? You know, he's walking with his arms behind his back. And I've seen people talk about that. That's not like a young kid on a campus. That scene where he's walking, that's something more either European or Middle Eastern. What do you see so far in this video that we see of this or personal interest? I think the colonel articulated in a sense what they see. I'd say from an FBI perspective, we have individuals that can hypothesize on that, our behavioral analysis unit and those type of individuals.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

I will say I would be, I.

[Reporter]

Think, getting a little ahead of things. And if I give you kind of an inference of what I see in that particular behavior, it can mean a lot of things to be truly transparent with you and to get into the mind of an individual that would commit such a heinous act. That's a place in which I don't want to go right now. I'm not sure what was going on in that particular individual's head at that time. But you would agree this individual seems very. Brian, in the back. President Paxson, as you stated, the shooter is to blame, but you're hearing a lot of questions about the lack of cameras. You mentioned you've heard some of the criticism. What is your response to parents as well who said they pay a lot of money for their kids to go to Brown? They're questioning the cameras, why the sirens didn't go off. Do you believe that Brown had the precautions and safety measures in place before the shooting that were appropriate and necessary?

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

I do. And in fact, I'm glad you mentioned the sirens because. Because I think there's been some misinformation about that. We have two security systems that we can activate in time of an emergency. One is a system that sends out text messages, phone calls, emails, and it was activated within minutes of the incident. Those messages went out to 20,000 individuals. So all alerts. We also have a system of sirens that three sirens placed across campus. Those get activated when there is a broad scale emergency and we want people to rush into buildings. In the case of an active shooter, activating that system could have caused people to rush into Beres and Pollock. So that's not a system that we would ever use in the case of an active shooter.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

Just to follow up.

[Commentator/Analyst]

It does say.

[Reporter]

On the website when it was launched that it is for an active shooter.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

It depends on the circumstances and where the active shooter would be. But you don't want to ever get people rushing into buildings that might be the site of an active shooting. That's my understanding.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Go ahead. Sorry.

[Reporter]

Do you have any evidence that suggests that the victim ellipt hook may have been targeted?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

No, not at this point.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Yeah.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

You mention you have over 200.

[Reporter]

Yes, we're working our way across. I'm sorry, go ahead. Attorney General Morono, what are the characteristics of the guy in the first video that makes you believe that he's also the same guy in the video that was released yesterday and then the follow up for President Pax?

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Yeah, look, I think that that is an analysis that has been done by the agents and the detectives. A lot of factors are going into that. A lot of it is being able to, as I just saw upstairs, a really terrific job of tracing movements. And when you put movements and times together, it's easy to. Easier perhaps is the best word to identify them as the same person. Now look, look, there are no absolutes in any investigation. And I'm not about to make absolute statements in this one either. But that's. That's the general reasoning for why we just a.

[Reporter]

A follow up. President Paxton, right now school break is pretty much underway for a lot of university students. Have you met with your police department and boy busting on how you're going to secure the university going into the second semester? Are you making any changes to the way you guys operate?

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

Well, right now we have been. The campus is emptying out first, as you said. But we still have staff and faculty and graduate students and international students who will remain on campus during the winter break. So it's still open. And right now our focus is on getting as many sort of boots on the ground, people in cars. We have been really fortunate that the city and other municipalities have people who are helping us, people from the state. We also have security that we brought in from outside. I think over 60 people today were patrolling the campus. I was on campus, walking around and I couldn't turn around without seeing a security person. So we will continue that process as long as we think it's necessary. And right now the campus feels very secure.

[Reporter]

Steve, I'm sorry I missed your. No, okay. If I were. If someone were Providence resident were to see someone who matched the description of the person of interest, how would they be sure that they weren't dealing with a federal ic? The tip line that we've been providing throughout the last several days. 401 272-3121. That call comes in here and is answered in this building with Providence police professionals and our partners at the FBI. That is who's manning the phones. That is, who's processing the tips. And we are encouraging anybody who has relevant information to please use that tip line. And. And they should know that that's who's on the other end of the phone. And again, if you have relevant information or information that you think might help us with this investigation, we encourage you to call it. But are there anything that could be.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Differentiated between this person and an ICE.

[Reporter]

Agent who would be messed up walking through town and not be approached by the police the same way this person was? Again, we've worked really hard to build the trust of our community here in Providence, and I'm telling you that that phone number 401-272-3121, rings in this building and is answered by Providence police and or FBI. Those are the agencies that are processing, running down and investigating any relevant information. And we urge folks, if you have relevant information, to please use that phone number.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Luke, for the Colonel, do you have any indication as so whether all the interviews of the students in the classroom are completed, and is there any through line that you glean from those interviews?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

We're still conducting those interviews as we speak.

[Reporter]

Go ahead, please.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

You mentioned that you have no idea if the shooter is still in the area. Have you been working with any law enforcement agencies in other states that are nearby?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

Yes, we work with every municipality here in the state of Orana and obviously every Massachusetts.

[Commentator/Analyst]

There's.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

Obviously, we have conversations with them as well, but the majority of the law enforcement that we're working with right now is our own, you know, nearby municipalities, the r. State police, and every agency that you can think of, federal agency in this building.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

Are you working with agencies in Connecticut?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

We have conversations with them, but no, they're not here.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

No, man, I just jump in here. What's really critical first is that we identify who the person is. You know, once we identify who this person is, I believe we'll be able to locate him. It's very hard to hide in this country, but until you have a name, which is why we're working so hard to identify him, it doesn't. It's not particularly productive to reach out to law enforcement across the country as to who you're looking for because we don't yet know who we're looking for. So that's why we have to identify the person. Once we've identified him, you know, we'll know more information about where he's from, his friends are and where he might go. So those are the things that we can do once we have an identification of this person. And that's why the team now is laser focused on identifying who this person.

[Reporter]

Is in this video.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Amen.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

I have some questions for the chief. I'm just following up on another question that was just asked. I'm glad to hear that some of the students are beginning to recover. How many other students who were inside their building and also outside have detectives been able to interview and have they elaborated anything this man said? Allegedly he yelled something in the classroom before opening fire. Did he appear to be wearing a bulletproof vest and that's why he appeared bulky?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

It's a good amount of interviews that have been conducted. We have re interviewed several people. And so I want to, as part of the investigation right now, we'll continue to investigate, we'll continue to speak with them and like the general state of this. And we just try to build the case here and make sure that we can move forward and continue the progress as we're doing. As we're doing. But the interviews are still being conducted.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

But Chief, they haven't elaborated. They haven't elaborated exactly in what this man did. Say anything when he was yelling.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

Yeah, I don't have that info on.

[Reporter]

Straight back, sir. What do we know about the path of the shooter as they left Aris hallway and where do we lose sight of them?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

So his movements were all in that residential block that I mentioned between Waterman Avenue, Power Street, I Street, Hope street there. All that block, the whole residential block that I just mentioned is where he Movements. Movements were. And then obviously that's where we lose some sight of him somewhere around down the street.

[Reporter]

Is this after the shooting street in the back there?

[Commentator/Analyst]

Correct. To that point.

[Reporter]

Will at any point will there be kind of like a map put out as to which cameras you're seeing him on to kind of give an idea to the public of maybe my camera's there, maybe my Tesla's there, like you said?

[Commentator/Analyst]

Correct. Yeah, great point.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

And something that we talked about just before I came down here to be able to release that mop map as well.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

Alex, for the colonel, do investigators know how many shots have been fired at you?

[Commentator/Analyst]

Tell us that.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

So now forensics unit and obviously with the FBI as well They're. They're all there. And there was several rounds of a.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

Fighting side of building and just another. Follow the image today of the person of interest. They have a satchel. Is it known if there were additional weapons in there or magazines of some kind?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

Oh, that's all we know that it was just that one weapon that I mentioned the other day.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Go ahead.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

Yeah, this actually a question either for President Hudson or the colonel here. I wanted to follow up on the scrubbed Internet pages that were mentioned is that there's a lot of misinformation out there. There's been a lot of speculation about what those scrub pages might mean. Can you help fact check. Give us some information today about what this scrub individuals about one very particular individual. Does it have any connection to do with the shooting? As I said before, I have no knowledge of any scrubbed pages. You know, you can follow up with our communications office if you want to get more information. Maybe tomorrow. But this is the first I've heard of it. So I did, and then they directed me to Colonel Perez. Do you know anything about.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

I do not know. Yes. The question is what makes this person one of the suspects that we have? That is a priority. And since we have released somebody already in the past, what makes this person do the subject? So the answer is pretty much that. There's a lot of leads that we have here that identifies this individual as the person who committed this tragedy. We have enough to be able to move forward in progress, and we're very confident that. That he's the individual committed.

[Reporter]

Follow up here or you go ahead.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

Yes, sorry.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

So why don't we call them a suspect? And what we tell the community is nervous. So our question.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

I want to come back to your question about that name. And I know the name that you're asking about because remember, the media asked me about it. I am familiar with it. I wasn't familiar with it when the media member asked me about it.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

I think it was.

[Reporter]

I think it was either CBS or NBC.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

I asked my team about it, and I think this is an area where caution is really necessary. There are lots of reasons why a page might be taken down, particularly if there's chatter out there about to your question, Amanda, about words that were spoken. It's easy to jump from someone saying words that were spoken to what those words are to a particular name that reflects a motive targeting a particular person. That's a really dangerous road to go down. Really dangerous. If that name meant anything to this investigation, we would be out looking for that person. We would Let you know we were looking for that person. You know, again, I think it's just a really dangerous road to go down. I know and in today's age there are lots of things that people read into things. It's just a dangerous thing to do. And I would leave it to us to identify persons of interest and let us run them down. What the public can do for us today is help us figure out who this guy is. And we hope to have more information out that will help you do that. Help you help us do that.

[Reporter]

You have a follow up here.

[Brown University President Christina Patson]

Hi Jerry. Just very, very quickly, it was my further to my colleague's question, but you have answered most of it. But just in regards to the rumors that are circulating as well about the motive here, do you have any information regarding the rumors that a particular professor was being targeted?

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

There is no information that the investigative team has about motive. 00. There's nothing about. Even if, even if taking at face value what one or two witnesses may have said about what something was said.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Okay.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

And there are many witnesses that say nothing was said. There's nothing about what we know was perhaps said that indicates any kind of motive that is related at all to ethnicity or political outlook or culture. There's nothing at all that we know right now about that. And I think that that is a dangerous road to go down, particularly in today's environment.

[Reporter]

Patrick has a follow up. Does the fact that the satchel is in some videos and not in others and his disappearance around, Governor, either indicate that there's a vehicle involved or one of the houses involved picks up the satchel or gets off the satchel? What does that tell us? The fact that it disappears if there's a vehicle?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

So the actions of a criminal?

[Commentator/Analyst]

Pretty much.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

I'll tell you that. That's you're right and that's something that we're looking at. As you can see in the video, the satchel's on. Sometimes it's not on. He has a heavy coat on. He has something in front of his abdomen. He could have hit the satchel and something in instance that we have. We'll continue to investigate this complex and. But we'll continue the investigation as we go.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Are you assuming like in Lewis domain after four days the suspect had taken his own life?

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

So if you set the microphone, are you assuming right now that you showing.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

These videos that this is a suspect after 72 hours it's still alive? Or do you have dogs and you know, thermal imaging from helicopters over here that are looking for a person that's taken.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

Yeah, we using a lot of resources with. As soon as we get a lead, we continue to follow through with it. Investigation. I mentioned the other day, they start here and they lead in a different direction. That's. So we're there. Yes, you're right. We use dogs. Yes. If we have a lead on something and we think that we need to go back and search it again, we need to reinterviewed.

[Commentator/Analyst]

We need to.

[Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez]

We're doing all that.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Chris, you got the last question.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Go.

[Reporter]

The mayor had noted the Boston Globe podcast that there were setbacks earlier in the investigation.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Would you also say that that initial.

[Reporter]

Detention with that first person of interest.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

Would you also categorize that as a setback? Well, you know, the mayor and I agree on nearly everything, but we look at. We look at this case maybe from different backgrounds and experiences, perhaps. Certainly the mayor has had many great experiences that I've never had. Meeting the city, for example. Well, I would not characterize it as a setback. The way I would characterize it is it was a lead that had to be run to ground, and the person as that lead was run to ground. There was an initial period when that lead looked very promising, but there was still physical evidence that had to be analyzed. And once it was analyzed, it was clear that that person was not a person involved here. But that's not unusual investigations like this. And that's happening as we speak. We are developing people of interest, and, you know, some we quickly rule out, others we quickly rule in. And when I say persons of interest, people that could be this guy based on other evidence. So I would not, you know, view it as a setback. I mean, I think, frankly, the police work there and the analytical work that had to be taken out of state and brought back very quickly was very well done. Certainly wasn't a disappointment for those of us who hoped we could wrap this case quickly for the benefit of the Brown community and the people of Providence. Were out, of course. But I don't know that I would use the setback. But I think, you know, maybe those words don't, but maybe what I'm saying is not all that different from the mayor, but I look at it as good police work while other work was going on.

[Reporter]

We will be back tomorrow with further updates unless there is a meaningful update. Again, if you are not yet on the press list, please see Camille. Julie.

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My colleague Jack Prosobic, who had to leave to get down to D.C. for an event he's speaking at is that this was kind of a train wreck. You should know throughout the day, throughout the day there's been an individual, I guess Brown University and the Brown University officials have been taking down his social media. And of course his social media is a little controversial. So the social media is a lot of, a lot of discussion there. Of course the district attorney said right there they don't know, they don't want to mention the guy's name. They don't have any facts about it. And you know, people essentially shouldn't get worked up about it. Then he said there's been no targeting. In fact, the strongest point of the press conference was to chew out the reporters. And I guess you, the me, the public for even bringing this up was gonna be targeted for cultural, political reasons. The whole Ella Cook situation. I might also add that in this fiasco they just, they admitted they only started asking the merchants for the Footage today. We're three days into this. And so that press conference I didn't think gave a high level of confidence. If Cash or Bongino are watching that and their agent in charge, it seems to me it's time for somebody in authority to step in here because you're three days into this and it seems like they're asking this. Jack Vesobic tweeted. They're asking the. They're giving numbers out and say, hey, call if you see the video. You've got any other video. And then they're chewing people out and jumping on people if they say anything about it. Jack Posobic joins us. Let me take it all the way to the end of the show to the438. Jack Posobic joins us. Jack, what is your thoughts on this?

[Commentator/Analyst]

Oh, Steve, this. This was one of the craziest things that I think I've ever seen in terms of a press conference. I've never seen it. They asked the people for tips, and then they start yelling at people for sending in tips. They start yelling at the audience. They start yelling at the public. They start lecturing and said, don't send in tips like that. We don't want those tips. We want other tips. We don't want this information. They're not making any sense up there. They're not providing any information to people. They said, what did the guy yell? They can't tell you what the guy yelled. And then they sit there and the guy, the police chief, who's a migrant, by the way, drops English and he starts speaking Spanish in a press conference that's going out to the United States of America where last time I checked, we speak English.

[Host]

Yeah, I'm jammed for time.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Two things.

[Host]

All day you've been working on something about this individual. They did say, hey, it's too early. You can't do that. We don't know about it. About this person's. The Brown University scrubbing the site. Then the. The prosecutor jumped on everybody about saying, somebody just asked a question. Is there any. Any evidence here or anything about being targeted? Obviously, the Ella Cook situation, he went off on it. Your. Your thoughts of what's happened today and, and behind the scenes, Jack, what happened today?

[Commentator/Analyst]

Well, they're lying. They're obviously lying up there because the prosecutor who's very. Has no poker face whatsoever. They all lied and said they don't know what you're talking about. About anyone getting a. Getting name scrubbed. There was an individual whose name has been scrubbed from that Brown University's website. I had a source from Rhode island, said the police were aware of this and were looking into him. They hadn't confirmed anything, but they were looking into it. And that. That's who the prosecutor was referring to when he said, oh, you don't ask questions about this because, you know, we know you're trying to make this a cultural thing. We don't have proof of that. He said, so wait a minute. Do you not have information or do you. Because if you're trying to say he's calling people racist because one of the guys who people were looking at said this guy might be some kind of Muslim, might be some kind of migrant, and they wanted to know because he matched profile that people were looking at and he was a member of one of these groups. Now, we. Then we are. We're not calling for any. Any kind of extra judicial responses here. We're saying people are out there on the Internet saying, look, here's a guy who's on campus that seems to match this, that potentially could be a suspect. Have you looked into it? And they're yelling at them. They're yelling.

[Host]

But hang on. But Jack, Jack, Jack, it's. Jack. It's worse than that because they. Brown University authorities there scrubbed this guy's site. I mean, what got the Pepes and the Pepes were all over this today is that this stuff is being taken down during the day, was it not? These are just factual events that happened this afternoon.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Correct. This was a name that came up this morning that I saw across, you know, the Internet. And I said, well, that's interesting. And I wonder what's going on there. I wonder if that's, you know, any relation to this. Had no idea, right? Said, I certainly hope that he's being looked into. But then before the afternoon show came on today, they start erasing every single instance of this individual's name from Brown University's website. Why?

[Host]

And behind the scenes, you should know Jax is getting a lot of appeal people, an authority back there saying, hey, there's something not right here.

[Commentator/Analyst]

There's.

[Host]

So there's a lot more than they put in that press conference.

[Attorney General Peter Nerona]

A lot more.

[Host]

Anyway, John Solomon's going to take it from here. We don't have a chance to get to Mike Lindell. We'll get Mike Lindell up early in the morning tomorrow. Mike Lindell's got a bunch of news about President States and Tina Peters. We'll get to all that. The John. John Solomon. Just the news on Real America's Voice is going to follow. We've got a special over on, on on the War room that I'm going to take on and we're going to talk about the three giants, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and James Dobson, next in the war room. See you tomorrow morning, 10 o'.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Clock.

[Host]

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