Episode 5004: Building American Independence Through Tariffs; Populism Fights Back In Germany

Summary

Podcast Summary

Podcast: Bannon’s War Room
Episode: 5004 - Building American Independence Through Tariffs; Populism Fights Back In Germany
Date: December 17, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guests: Steve Stern, Julie Kelly, Jake Seawolf, Luke Niferatos, Dr. Peter Navarro, Marcus Frohnmeier (AfD), Mike Lindell

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Overview

This episode delves into the twin themes of American economic sovereignty, with a focus on the use of tariffs and industrial policy, and the rising tide of populist politics in Germany as embodied by Alternative für Deutschland (AfD). The episode also offers reaction and activism around alleged political persecution in Colorado, ongoing debates around election integrity, and the anticipated address from former President Trump.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Colorado Political Controversy and Grassroots Action

[00:52–05:40]

• Stephen K. Bannon and Steve Stern discuss perceived federal targeting of Colorado as retaliation for the imprisonment of Tina Peters, a “gold star mother”. Bannon frames federal relocations (e.g., atmospheric science research, Space Force assets) as punitive and urges grassroots pressure on Colorado’s governor and secretary of state.
• Steve Stern lays out a coordinated campaign:
  • Major phone banking effort directed at Governor Polis
  • Election integrity call with notable participants (Cleta Mitchell, Steve Gruber, Joe Hoft)
  • Plans to amplify the campaign internationally, suggesting broad populist resistance

Notable quote:

“Every federal dollar spent in Colorado ought to be removed until Tina Peters ... is brought out of that prison.” – Stephen K. Bannon [03:00]

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2. Preparedness as a Populist Virtue

[06:12–09:32]

• Jake Seawolf (My Patriot Supply) connects self-reliance and traditional familial roles with prepping, emphasizing being willing to “live for your children” by ensuring security in uncertain times.

Notable quote:

“You would die for your country ... What about giving to us so your kids can live?” – Bannon [09:34]

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3. Jack Smith’s Testimony; DOJ Actions and Impeachment Frustration

[09:34–14:31]

• Julie Kelly reports on former special counsel Jack Smith’s closed-door testimony:
  • Kelly criticizes the lack of public hearings; frames Smith and his team as political operatives
  • She unpacks new details on FBI internal disputes over the Mar-a-Lago raid, arguing there was no real probable cause from FBI’s own field office
• Frustration voiced about the lack of progress on impeaching Judge Boasberg regarding the legal pursuits against Trump and allies.

Notable quote:

“The American people, after being forced to spend at least $50 million on that criminal pursuit ... are entitled to see this scumbag front and center.” – Julie Kelly [09:59]

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4. Marijuana Executive Order: Populist Pushback

[16:35–19:37]

• Luke Niferatos (Parent Activist): Reports rumors about insiders (including Bobby Kennedy) influencing Trump’s possible executive order to normalize marijuana, framing the move as being pushed by industry CEOs against the advice of the administration.
• Calls for listeners to voice opposition and stresses belief that legal marijuana will not resolve societal issues and is a political ploy rather than policy.

Notable quote:

“Marijuana is no treatment for Trump Derangement Syndrome at the midterms. Let’s deliver for the American people with the economy, with the things that matter.” – Luke Niferatos [19:11]

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5. Tariffs and Economic Sovereignty: ‘The Trump Trade Template’

[19:46–27:48]

• Peter Navarro discusses Mexico joining the US in imposing tariffs on China, echoing Trump’s “global tariff wall” to defend against mercantilist trade practices:
  • Navarro frames this as the success of a coordinated global populist movement
  • Calls out China’s lack of a social safety net as a problem fueling trade imbalances
  • Draws historic parallels and highlights Financial Times coverage as validation

Notable quotes:

“President Trump, we’re not doing this alone. This is a global push.” – Peter Navarro [21:02]
“It’s extraordinary ... a communist country ... has virtually no pension or healthcare benefits for their people. It’s absurd.” – Navarro [21:25]
“People got to be patient with the Trump agenda. It’s a Main Street agenda.” – Navarro [22:40]

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6. The German Populist Surge: AfD’s Marcus Frohnmeier

[30:00–43:44]

• Marcus Frohnmeier (AfD Vice Chairman, Bundestag) gives a firsthand account of the populist surge in Germany:
  • AfD’s rapid growth, now polling strongest in Germany; party founded in 2013
  • Details establishment backlash: surveillance, ballot exclusion, and attempts to delegitimize AfD as “anti-democratic”
  • Points to mass migration (post-2015) and elite policies eroding German culture and economic strength as primary drivers
  • Frohnmeier draws a direct line between AfD and US MAGA populism, calls for transatlantic cooperation

Notable quotes:

“They really try to forbid and bend [ban] AfD just because we are quite successful. … What we face in Germany at the moment is really something I would not any longer describe as a democracy.” – Marcus Frohnmeier [36:25]
“For them, we’re a competitor and they try to fight with whatever they can. … Even using a domestic intelligence service against the AfD.” – Marcus Frohnmeier [35:17]

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7. Economic Impact & Elites vs. Populism

[37:33–41:00]

• Discussion on why the German elite embrace globalist policies and mass migration against the wishes of working- and middle-class Germans.
• Bannon asserts that demographic and political momentum will eventually force the establishment to confront AfD electoral success, questioning whether the “deep state elite” would accept an AfD victory.

Notable quote:

“They steal the voice of millions of people in Germany because they cannot be part of a democratic process.” – Marcus Frohnmeier [41:15]

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8. Looking Ahead: Trump’s Anticipated Address and Election Integrity

[47:40–50:10]

• Mike Lindell shares hope for Trump’s national address to focus on hope, security, combating fraud, and lowering costs.
• Emphasizes election integrity as the foremost issue for all Americans, regardless of party.

Notable quote:

“I think you’re gonna find out everyone in this country, I don’t care if you’re Democrat or Republican, you want secure elections.” – Mike Lindell [49:20]

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Memorable Quotes

• “Every federal dollar spent in Colorado ought to be removed until Tina Peters... is brought out of that prison.” – Stephen K. Bannon [03:00]
• “You would die for your country ... What about giving to us so your kids can live?” – Bannon [09:34]
• “The American people ... are entitled to see this scumbag front and center.” – Julie Kelly on Jack Smith [09:59]
• “President Trump, we’re not doing this alone. This is a global push.” – Peter Navarro [21:02]
• “For them, we’re a competitor... Even using a domestic intelligence service against the AfD.” – Marcus Frohnmeier [35:17]
• “It’s a Main Street agenda. Main Street’s going to hear from the boss tonight.” – Peter Navarro [22:43]
• “They steal the voice of millions ... because they cannot be part of a democratic process.” – Marcus Frohnmeier [41:15]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:52–05:40] – Colorado “retaliation”, Tina Peters activism
• [06:12–09:32] – Preparedness and family security (Jake Seawolf)
• [09:34–14:31] – Jack Smith’s testimony and DOJ/FBI controversy (Julie Kelly)
• [16:35–19:37] – Marijuana executive order & activism (Luke Niferatos)
• [19:46–27:48] – Tariff policy and global anti-China coordination (Peter Navarro)
• [30:00–43:44] – German populism, AfD, and democratic crisis (Marcus Frohnmeier)
• [47:40–50:10] – Trump speech preview & election integrity (Mike Lindell)

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Tone & Style

• Aggressively populist, consistently framing discussion as a contest between “the people” and elites
• Frequent use of emotionally charged language ("scumbag," "poison dwarf," etc.)
• Calls to action (phone campaigns, website visits, etc.)
• Emphasis on alternative media and international solidarity among populist movements

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Conclusion

This episode offers a look at a globalized vision of populism, connecting American issues (tariffs, election integrity, grassroots activism) with parallel movements in Europe, particularly Germany's AfD. The discussion is anchored in a rhetoric of elite betrayal and grassroots resurgence, tying together fears about migration, sovereignty, and political persecution. The coming Trump speech is positioned as a pivotal moment for the movement.

Transcript

[A]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians, I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[B]

War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.

[A]

Wednesday, 17th December year for Lord 2025. I want to connect some dots. Steve Cern is going to join us and I got to get through all this because we're going to have, we're going to go to Berlin at the bottom of the hour to alternative for Deutschland. Russ votes got a tweet up yesterday and in Russ votes tweet. They talk about, they talk about a part of hhs. I think it's out in. Let me get this right. It's a National Science foundation will be breaking up the national center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado. That's basically going to be transferred out of Boulder. I think last week you had one of the Space Force situations in Colorado. It's going to go, I think to Huntsville, Alabama. Folks in Colorado understand something. These are not random acts. We're going to deconstruct Colorado. As long as POLIS got our girl in prison, this is what you can expect. There's going to be much more of that. Steve Stern, talk to me about what we're doing special today. And a lot of it's in her memory until we get her out of prison. But I will tell you right now, actions being taken, these are not random events. You should get Polis and Griswold should understand some pattern recognition here. And the citizens of Colorado, it's on you. You need to put pressure on them. It's not coming upon us, coming upon you. But I got to tell you, you're going to start seeing these are that national, the National Science foundation, the atmospheric thing that's moving out, the space thing is moving out. Hell, they ought to move out the Air Force Academy, they'll take it all out. Every federal dollar spent in Colorado ought to be removed until Tina Peters, a gold star mother who's sleeping on a steel slab cancer Survivor is brought out of that prison. Steve Stern, talk to me today about what you're going to do, sir. This is one of the most important meetings of the year for your group. I want everybody to make sure they know the time and where they go. What do you got going?

[C]

This is an honor of Tina Peters. We just changed everything and Peter Tickton is going to come on. And at 1 o' clock Eastern Time we're going to have 10,000 or 100,000 people call Governor Jared Polis. There's the number. Don't start calling till 12 o' clock Eastern Time. 303-866-2471. We've had enough of the governor. Peter Tickton is going to update us on this. We're having our election security call today from 1 o' clock Eastern Time to 430. We're going to have a special guest on Stephen Bannon. Hopefully he gets on. Cleta Mitchell will open it up. She's going to talk about what is happening on Election Integrity. If you'd like to get on, email me while I get off here at Stern. 1054gmail.com we'll get you a link. We're going to have Steve Gruber on. He's going to be talking about what's happening in Michigan. If you'd like to see this and you can't get on when you email me, go to Stern American Rumble. Go to Getter. Go to Cloud Hub Lindell tv. Yeah, Mike's voice got better. He's going to come on today talking.

[A]

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[C]

Clock, 1 o Eastern Time? Mitchell will come on directly there. We'll have Steve on. We'll have you on. We'll have. We're going to talk about everything else. I know we don't have limit time.

[A]

So I want everybody to go, we're going to blow it all out. Now the question president said the other day he's got overwhelming, unbelievable, you know, material now, ballots, machines, all of it. You got Kurt Olson doing it. Give me a minute. What are you anticipating from the president? States of what he's got. He's got evidence now. He said he's got evidence. He's going to be dropping it very shortly. What are you expecting, sir?

[C]

Well, I'm hoping today he's going to say no mail in ballots one day voting, no machines, no illegal aliens voting. We're going to have Joe Hoff talking about that today. Colonel Conrad Reynolds, we got a lot of people talking about that today. We're also going to be talking about Canada and how Dale Richardson is seeing what's happening where people can't even talk about the government. So this is happening all over the country now on top of everything else we got dance Mariglio coming on. He is going to be putting this out to Europe today. I have a good friend in London. He's putting it out. This is going to go to 7 million people. We hope more. It's going to be fantastic. Again, I know we'll have limited time. Go to esther1054gmail.com 1:00 clock link and.

[A]

1:00 clock we're going to play it the entire time. We're also going to take clips from her. Hopefully play tonight as the president after the president's speech. Steve Stern, Keep hammering it, brother. The most important meeting of the year. Most important meeting the year. One o' clock on all the different platforms. Make sure you check it out. Jake Seawolf, my patron supply. Love you guys because you help people get ready for the unexpected. Tell me what you got. Christmas, big Christmas sale going on, brother. What do you got for us?

[D]

Our big one. We're doing a winter warm up defense sale. It's actually really nice. Like the Vesta space heater comes with it and I use it all the time. To be honest, whether if I'm out camping with my wife, she stays warm. I've used it in my shop to stay warm. Well, I garage I should say. But no, I think it's awesome. It is a beast of a little machine. Three can heat, I mean heats up the whole 200 square feet super fast. And I love it. Steve, you know, today I kind of want to talk to you about Venezuela and stuff but this morning feel a little more heartfelt. The I'm a fairly new father, I have to admit. And when I was just watching my son this morning, you always hear that like I mean every man in this chat. I'm sure everybody, we can all agree that we would die for our children. But you know, like dying is easy. Been to Afghanistan, you've seen people die. My question is, are people willing to live for their children? Are you willing to live for your family? Are you willing to do what it takes to make sure that they have Food on their plate every day no matter what the circumstances are, fresh drinking water on there just so they can stay hydrated. And I've been thinking about a lot about that, like what it means to be a father. And being a father to me is just making sure that my family has everything that they need no matter what the circumstances are.

[A]

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[D]

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[E]

Perfect.

[D]

It's Jake that easy.

[A]

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[D]

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[A]

Warren, posse. You heard that? Let's pile into it today. Jake, love you man. Thank you for coming on. Appreciate you.

[D]

Love you. Steve, thank you so much.

[A]

What does he say? What does it take to be a father? Right? You would give your life for your country, you vets. What about giving us so your kids can live? Julie Kelly. Julie Kelly's with us by phone. Julie, you've waited a long time, girl. You got Jack Smith getting deposed today under oath. What do you got for us?

[E]

So this is Jack Smith, a former special counsel, is testifying before House Judiciary Committee behind closed doors. I have pushed for public testimony by Jack Smith because I think the American people, after being forced to spend at least $50 million on that criminal pursuit of the president in two different cases, are entitled to see this scumbag front and center. But the good news is that it appears Senator Johnston has said that this is sort of the precursor for the continued investigation and also public hearing with Jack Smith scheduled hopefully for early next year.

[A]

What about the probable cause yesterday? You know the Washington field office, as you've told us so many times, were not fans of President Trump. In fact, they hated President Trump, but they told the FBI and there was not probable cause. How big a deal is that going to be in this deposition today?

[E]

Right. So obviously this was a well timed disclosure by Senate, by the Senate and House Judiciary Committees as well. And look, this confirmed a Washington Post 2023 article that I've reported on numerous times that revealed this tension between the Washington FBI field office, led at the time by Stephen Dantuano, who we've talked about extensively, who was promot to head up the Washington FBI field office after pulling off the Whitmer fednapping stunt in the Detroit FBI field office. Dantuano then oversaw the extensive January 6th investigation as well as the pipe bomb investigation. But it appears he was the one he and several of his agents out of the Washington field office pushing back on Main justice, especially Jay Bratt, George Toscas, people we've talked about who are no longer with the department in pursuing immediately this raid of Mar A Lago. So this tension lasted over the course of two months. This was confirmed by these emails released yesterday. And then of course the big bombshell is that the FBI of course did not believe that there was probable cause, at least the Washington Field Office, that there was not probable cause. That we know the President and his team and lawyers had been fully cooperating with Joe Biden's vengeful DOJ for over a year and a half, continuing to produce documents. Fifteen boxes they sent voluntarily to NARA, 38 more documents they gave to Jay Bratt on June 3, 2022, when the president let Jay Brett and three FBI agents voluntarily in to Mar A Lago that day. This is very important, Steven. I want to reiterate this. June 3, 2022, after cooperating with the Archives, after cooperating with DOJ, let that degenerate midget, I call him Jay Bratt. Three FBI agents to walk around Mar A Lago under the pretext that they were looking for more classified documents. It was a recon mission. And three days later, Jay Brat started to push for the armed raid of Mar A Lago for more alleged government papers.

[A]

The President wants to have the poison dwarf. Jay Bratt. Real quickly is Jack Smith. Take the Fifth.

[E]

Today it appears from reporting by Politico that he is going to do whatever he can to stonewall and not answer the committee's questions. Just like his buddy and henchman Tom Windham did back in September. Windham now the subject of a criminal referral for obstruction that is sitting at the DOJ right now.

[A]

Are we making any progress? Are we making any progress on the impeachment of Boasburg? Ma', am, before you go, get about a minute.

[E]

Not that I'm aware of, no.

[A]

Good Lord in heaven. Give me 30 seconds. Julie, what do you want to have the President say to the nation tonight?

[E]

Oh, geez. That they are focused on the priorities for which they were elected. One which is holding accountable the people who brought lawfare against the President, his team, people like you, Steve Bannon and hundreds of his supporters. People are justifiably frustrated at the slow pace here and we need to see more movement immediately after the first of the year, hopefully starting with someone like Jack Smith.

[A]

Julie, where do people go for your substack or your content?

[E]

Declassified with Julie Kelly on Substack on X. I have a lot of thoughts about Jack Smith. Today I will be sharing Julie Kelly 2.

[A]

Love you ma'.

[F]

Am.

[A]

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[C]

War room.

[B]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

[A]

Okay, marijuana. The executive order is gonna be signed today or tomorrow. Luke, you join us. You're the head of this parents group that have been fighting this. There's a rumor out there, Bobby Kennedy's in back of this. Is that true?

[G]

You know, we're not sure. We're hearing some rumors that actually he may have told the President not to do this. I haven't been able to confirm that, but what we're seeing in the reporting, Steve, is that it was two marijuana CEOs that were in the Oval Office. In his ear on that. Everyone else in his administration said, don't do it, Mr. President. This isn't good for the American people. But those CEOs, we don't know what they said or what was discussed in the Oval for two hours, but it's been widely reported they're the ones that were able to get the President over the finish line on doing this executive order today.

[A]

We need a call to action if you want to find out more about this. Where do they go right now, Luke? What do they read? And then you guys will help supply the phone numbers they should call. But right now, I want everybody just to get informed. We try to get somebody on the other side of this. I couldn't find anybody. We couldn't track down the CEOs, obviously. Luke, where do people go? Because these are going to happen today or tomorrow.

[G]

Well, it's hard to defend drug pushing, so I don't blame them. No. Go to learnaboutsam.org find me on X. Luke Nifferatos. We have all of the stuff there. This executive order would be the biggest move by any president in modern history to normalize drug use. We are asking for President Trump to follow his own advice. If you go to my X account right now, you'll see the video we just did where we're taking Trump's words. He's telling kids, don't do drugs. This is the advice that the President himself needs. Don't normalize drugs. That's gotta be your message. Call the President. Call the White House right now. He should be listening to the people to the parents who have been harmed, all of you out there know you have families that have been impacted by this drug. He needs to hear from the people over these executives.

[A]

He should listen to his own heart. There's never been a more anti drug president than President Trump is 92nd. Hell, we got 14,000 fleet Marines and sailors in a carrier battle group, a strike force amphib ready group. Tonight I'm sure he's going to address the American people all to stop. He's blowing up drug boats coming here to kill people. He's stopping fentanyl. He, he's just named. You named fentanyl weapon of mass destruction. No president in our history has taken more action to rid the plague of drugs from the American people than Donald Trump. Full stop. There's not even a second, not even a close second. This is why this is so. It's strange. It's quite strange. But that's why I want people one more time. I want to go to your site. I want to get the information and then I want them to take it from there. Where they go.

[G]

Learnaboutsam.org and then find me on X. Luke Niferados. You can find everything that you need in those two places. And here's the final thing. I think the reason why he's being sold on this is it's a midterms play. They're saying it's for the politics. Listen to me loud and clear. Whatever people think about marijuana as medicine, marijuana is no treatment for Trump Derangement syndrome at the midterms. It's not gonna solve the problems. Let's deliver for the American people with the economy, with the things that really matter.

[A]

Thank you, Luke. Appreciate you.

[G]

Thank you.

[A]

We've got a great clip today from one of the President's closest advisors. Let's go ahead and play it and then we will bring that advisor on the show.

[H]

In writing about how Mexico is imposing new tariffs on Chinese goods. This is a big deal. And how it reflects a broader shift among US allies. So walk us through why this is significant. What it says about the direction of President Trump's 2026 trade agenda as we look at your op ed in the Financial Times saying Mexico's China tariffs show the rise of Trump's trade template.

[B]

So what President Trump understands is this three dimensional chest that's known as the international trading system. In the beginning, the president imposes protection, defensive tariffs on the world. Right. Starting with China, with the 301s. Now how does China respond? Instead of dumping a lot of product here, they're stuck with a bunch of product, so they begin dumping it all over the world. Mexico has been a primary target, Europe, but it's Africa and Latin America. So what we've been doing as the trade team with Jamison Group, Greer, Howard Lutnick leading the way in these negotiations is pointing out to countries like Mexico and continents like Europe that, hey, if you're going to have a prosperous economy and all this is going to work, you've got to develop the same kind of tariff protections as we put them in. It's essentially a global tariff wall against mercantilism and in this case, the mercantil of China. So what we saw last week, which is an epiphany for the world, is the Mexican Senate voting to impose tariffs, which are roughly similar to the levels we have on China. And Europe as we speak, is adopting similar measures. They've already imposed tough measures on China against steel, on EVs. And what it's showing, Maria, to all of those out there in your audience and the rest of this country is that President Trump, we're not doing this alone. This is a global push. And that's the epiphany of the article in the Financial Times that this is a coordinated global strategy. And I think the most important part of the piece, Maria, is talking directly to China. I've been saying this for more than 10 years, that China, if it's going to be a good neighbor and prosper in this, in this world, rather than creating conflict, it has to create a social safety net for its people so that they save less and consume more. It's extraordinary, Maria, that a communist country, a people's republic, has virtually no pension or health care benefits for their people. It's absurd. It's absurd. And what that does is it forces it forces the people of China, the hardworking, the Lao Beijing, as Steve Bannon likes to call them, the working class, the MAGA folks of China, they've got to save upwards of 50% or more. They don't consume. And so the Chinese Communist Party exports to the world and steals our jobs in factories and war weakens us and everybody else around. So that's the importance of that piece, and I'm glad that you've pointed it out to Wall Street. If I may, Maria, I want to point out one historical thing today. I don't know if you remember this, but on your wonderful program Sunday morning futures, on April 6th of this year, the Dow was down. It dripped below 40,000. There was all the time. That was the 38,000 and what did I do? I predicted 50,000 on the Dow. And what we're saying is this stuff takes time and where we're at, we're in, we're in striking distance now of 50,000 on the Dow. I did the same thing on election day in 2016. I said we'd hit 25,000. And I point this out. People got to be patient with the Trump agenda. It's a Main street agenda. Main Street's going to hear from the boss tonight.

[A]

He, he did on, on election day or the day after election when we were named the winner in 16. Peter did go on squawk and do that. And of course Stephen K. Bannon, the CEO of the campaign and the transition, fired him as a spokesman. But it did hit it. Navarro, Maria Bartiromo, why is she not in the administration? I mean, she's a rock star. And of course, if you're going to give us a shout out to the Lao Baijing, we're always going to have you on. Talk to us about what this analysis shows us, Dr. Navarro.

[I]

The top line, Steve, is simply that the President in his three dimensional chess world is running a global strategy. We're always criticized for not cooperating with our allies, but in fact what we're doing is we're bringing our allies right along with us to stand up to the mercantilism of China. I mean, the reality is we come out, the boss comes out with a hard tariffs on China dating back to the Section 301 tariffs in 2018. Right. We begin to erect this defensive protectionist wall to protect our national security or manufacturing base, whatever. So what China immediately did, and you can see this in the charts, is they just start sending their product everywhere else around the world and they start like trashing the markets like in Africa, in Latin America. Mexico is like a huge dumping ground and of course Europe. And so what we've been doing is part of the negotiations where our reciprocal tariffs brought these countries to the table. Mexico, Europe, whatever is we say, hey, look, in addition to all the things we want in terms of you cleaning up, your act, screwing us, you also need to protect yourself and thereby us against Chinese dumping. And lo and behold, they're doing it. And you know, some of it's kicking and screaming. I mean, Europe is, they got the memo. But half of Europe is controlled by China. But it's a big deal, Steve. It's a really big deal. And I'm so happy Financial Times saw the wisdom of it. You know, you think about it like the Financial Times, global newspaper, it's like Navarro's publishing something about Mexico and America. Like how does that matter? Well, here it does, baby. Here it does.

[A]

Okay, we gotta bounce. I'm track you down. I'm gonna ask Bonnie if we keep you up past your bedtime tonight, give you your warm milk later because I want to get your thoughts after the President of the United States. The nation tonight, it's going to be massively important. We're doing wall to wall coverage all the way to probably 11:00 clock tonight. Dr. Navarro, where can people get you, where can they find your pieces? You're writing great stuff. The Financial Times of London, the, the, the paper of the Globalist put this up. Maria Bartiromo loved it. The Warren posse loves it. Where do people go to get more information about you, your, your social media coordinates and Peter Navarro, your website?

[I]

Yeah, well, peternovar.com is the crossroads for everything. And then I've got X Getter and Truth, Real P Navarro. And just check it out. What we're doing, Steve, is a lot of videos now, 60 second videos on the top, breaking economic stuff and things like that. So a lot of information. And the war room is, I mean you guys, you guys are the tip of the spear man. And I think your audience should never forget how important they are in terms.

[A]

Of what's going on.

[I]

And we gotta win that election in November 26th. So people need to kind of realize what the stakes are. And I'll be around. Try to remind everybody every once in a while.

[A]

I'm sure the President's gonna lay out the plan tonight. Dr. Navarro, great article. Push them all out. Plus the, the book. You went to prison so the audience doesn't have to. Thank you sir. And say hi to that lovely Bride, the newlyweds, Dr. Peter Navarro. Incredible. We're gonna go to Berlin next. Alternative for Deutschland. You'll see what happens when somebody talks about, hey, let's work for maga. Let's work with maga. They try to shut him down. Berlin and the Bundestag next in the war room. Patriots, listen up. For a limited time, Patriot Mobile is running their Red, White and blue Friday promotion. Your once a year chance to get a free smartphone just for switching to America's only Christian conservative wireless provider, a brand new phone absolutely free while supplies last. For over 12 years, Patriot Mobile has defended faith, family and freedom while giving you the same or better premium coverage on all three major US networks. Unlimited data, mobile hotspots, international roaming, they do it all. When you switch, you never sacrifice quality or service. Hundreds of Thousands have joined the movement because every bill supports the First Amendment, the second Amendment, the sanctity of life and our veterans and first responders. Switching is easy. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade to that free smartphone. Today. Their 100% US based team can activate you in minutes. Go to patriotmobile.com Bannon. That's all one word. Patriotmobile.com Bannon or call 972 Patriot and use promo code Bannon. Don't wait. This limited time offer won't last. That's patriot mobile.com Bannon or call 972 Patriot with promo code Bannon. You're going to get an East Texas, an East Texas accent and you're going to get an American citizen on the phone. So join me today. Make the switch today at 972 Patriot, promo code Bannon.

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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannock.

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[J]

Good evening. Hello. It's a pleasure for me to be in your show. And yeah, of course, I will start to talk a little bit about the AfD. We are quite a new party. The AfD was founded in 2013, and in about 10 years, we became the strongest party in all Germany up to our polls. We have not just two parties in Germany. We're the strongest party at the moment with 72% of the voters. And, you know, we really try to make Germany great again and fix all of these problems. Problems, what you just mentioned, when it comes up to the energy crisis in Germany, the crazy taxes in Germany, or when it's about a mass migration. And I think we have a lot of things in common with the MAGA movement, with the Trump movement in the US And Yeah, I believe it's important to tighten our cooperation.

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Marcus, tell us how. Because German politics after World War II, over the next 40 or 50, 60 years, got pretty ossified. You had the Christian Democrats, you got Socialists, you got Greens. How did Alternative for Deutschland? What do you mean? First of, what was the alternative you proposed? And how did you guys kind of catch fire? And now you poll with the authorities trying to destroy you and put informants in there, all of it, the state going out of its way to destroy you. What was it that you guys did that really caught on and has changed the face of German politics to that you can't go to any globalist in any country, or you can't read the Financial Times or the Economist and that they think that you guys are neo Nazis, you're fascists, and you're the biggest danger really to world stability outside of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement. Sir.

[J]

Well, I think, you know, we are competitor to the old parties, and of course they try to fight with, with whatever they can do against the AfD because in fact, if we gain more and more votes, if we're stronger, they lose a lot of money and also mandates in the parliament. And I think this is, it's a simple thing. It's, that's, that's the reason they're not ready to share something. For them, we're a competitor and they try to fight with whatever they can. I mean, even using a domestic intelligence service against the AfD. They try to ban us from the ballots, to remove us from the ballots for now. It even happened that some of our guys who tried to be a candidate for mayor, for a local mayor, for him, it was not allowed to be a candidate because in their point of view, he's against the constitution and so on. So to make it short, what we face in Germany at the moment is really something what I would not any longer describe as a democracy. They really try to forbid and bend AFD just because we are quite successful. And the question is, why the AFD is that successful? The answer is simple. The other parties, they opened the borders in 2015. We had to face a mass migration. It was like crazy. Millions of young people, especially from Muslim and African countries, entered Germany. Now we have a situation that every 18 minutes people are attacked by a guy with a knife. And, you know, normally the person who is attacking our citizens is not born in Germany. And that's a huge problem. What we have to face at the moment, they're not willing to integrate, they're not willing to respect Our rules to be a part of society, most of them even not ready to find a job and do something for this society, pay taxes and so on. So it's actually, it's simple. And to be honest, you cannot be successful as a party or a movement if you allow that this kind of things are happen in your own country.

[A]

Marcus, here's where I think in America it's hard for us to kind of grapple with what is happening with you guys. Germany has had such a great impact on Western culture, Western civilization, music, painting, literature. What is it about your elites that they feel, I mean, why is it working class people and young people that are defending the civilization and culture of Germany, yet you have these well educated elites that are globalist that want to welcome the world in and radically change Germany. What is their pitch, what's the elite's pitch to the German people about this?

[J]

Look, I think they try to give people in Germany the feeling that they're responsible for almost everything what happened worse in the world. They tell them because, for example of our past, we have to be more responsible than other countries. And don't get me wrong, I think it's important that the Germans are able, you know, to, to remember what happened in the past, also the dark sides. But you also need to offer especially young people something positive about your own country. Otherwise it will be not, they will be not able to identify with Germany and what the elites are doing. They telling people you have to, for example, rebuild Gaza, you have to rebuild Ukraine, you have to be responsible for what happened in Syria and so on. And this is what offer them also nothing positive about our own heritage, about our own culture. This, this what happens in Germany at the moment, in my point of view it's based on negative aspects and on cancel culture and on the idea that, that, that you know, that a country should have no, no borders. Everyone can come to Germany no matter what. So it's, you know, it's a bit, they're going crazy to make it short.

[A]

But I think one of the reasons they're going crazy is that these are smart, cunning people. They look at the math, they look at your intensity, they look at the eastern part of the country. Young people, they understand unless they do something undemocratic and deep state to basically crush you, that inevitably you're going to take power and you guys are going to run Germany. Do you believe that the deep state elite in Germany is prepared to turn the country over if you win by democratic means? Which looks like you guys are on a roll. Do you think they're prepared to turn leadership of the German nation over to alternative for Deutschland?

[F]

Sir.

[J]

That's a really good question. I mean, I can tell you now what they already announced. They said for example, that if the AfD would elections for example, in the east of Germany, they would start to delete all files and informations from the domestic intelligence services. And so I'm quite sure that they're not really ready and willing to, to let the AfD in power. I mean they start to have this so called firewall. In my point of view, it's really a kind of undemocratic idea. They try to tell to all other parties and to the SOC society, if you're cooperating with the afd, you're normalizing right wing extremism and so on and that's the reason why we have this firewall. All other parties can just cooperate between each other, but not with the AfD. So in fact they steal the voice of millions of people in Germany because they cannot be part of a democratic process. This is what happens at the moment. So I mean in the east, I'm pretty sure that soon the AFD is that strong that we have no need for a partner, there's no need any longer for cooperation the party, you know, up to the polls we will get something like 39, 40 persons of the votes. And in Germany this is enough to, to be in power alone. But in the west of Germany it's a little bit different. You need to know that the west of Germany was all the time something like a powerhouse. Especially my region, I'm from Baden Wittenberg, it's in the southwest of Germany. And companies like Mercedes Benz, like Bosch or for example Porsche are located in my region. And because of the, you know, of the weird political styles, style and actions of the cdu, the Party of Maths. And also because the regional cdu, this region of Germany is really suffering. Every month about 200 comment companies are bankrupt. We, we lose a lot of jobs in this region. I would say it will be, if we cannot stop this, something like a Detroit, you know. And so there's a big change. So I'm quite optimistic. But I mean it's sad on the one hand but on the other hand, I have to say because of this, what happens in the south of Germany, soon the AfD will be also leading party in the west. We are now the number two in the west. And I'm quite optimistic that soon we will be number one.

[A]

Marcus, we got a bounce. Where's your social media? I'LL talk to you afterwards. People are very excited about your talk about alliance between Maga and AfD. Where do people go on social media to find out more about you? Sir?

[J]

I'm on X. My name on X is Marcus Frohnmeier and you also can find me on Instagram and Facebook, TikTok and so on. So just, you know, search for my name and you can support us. It would be amazing because we need a lot of support. I'm running in 2026 for the regional election.

[A]

We do support your. We love you guys. We love Alternative for Deutschland. I'll talk to you after the show. Marcus Frondmann thank you Lord. Thank you so much. Thank you for a great speech. Short break. Back in the worm in a moment. Imagine having the world's most connected financial insider feeding you vital information, the kind of information only a handful of people have access to and that could create a fortune for those who know what to do with it. That's exactly what you get when you join our frequent guest and contributor Jim Rickards in his elite research service Strategic Intelligence. Inside Strategic Intelligence. You'll hear directly from Jim and receive critical updates on major financial and political events before they hit the mainstream news. He'll put you in front of the story and tell you exactly what moves to make for your best chance to profit as a proud American. You do not want to be caught off guard. Sign up for Strategic Intelligence right now at your our exclusive website. That's rickards war room.com rickards war room.com you go there, you get strategic intelligence based upon predictive analytics. Do it today right now. Rickards war room.com war room here's your.

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Host, Stephen K. Ban.

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[F]

Well, I think the citizens of Minnesota, I think it's kind of the same nationwide. But he's got to give us a big message of hope and that includes the safety, people's safety. The fraud. It's not just Minnes is just the tip of the spear what's getting everything opened up. You're hearing now all over the country. This goes far and wide. Our welfare programs that have been robbed blind by these illegals and not just Somalians. Maybe this stuff goes far and wide and you know, I bringing that up and then the economy. I hope he, you know, he gives people hope because there's a lot of people that don't believe it's moving good. There's some people believing it is going great. And a lot of maybe he reveals new things that need to come out. You know, one of the things I've said, we've got to get our shipping prices down. It affects every consumer thing we buy from groceries to products, and that becomes the price of diesel fuel. And there's so many regulations that were put into place over the last 10 years that these got to be looked into. But he's done it before. We brought those prices down. So I hope he gives us a great message here of hope. And then also, Steve, election platforms, I know he even announced it the other day. He's got big news coming out about the, you guys, not just about the 2020 election, about all of our election platforms to secure him. There's a poll coming out tomorrow, I believe by Rasmussen that is how do the people feel in this country about our how, you know, how, how high up our elections, secure elections. And, and I did one in Minnesota in August and it was in the top three of their concerns as me running for governor. And Steve, I think you're gonna find out everyone in this country, I don't care if you're Democrat, Republican, you want secure elections. And I hope that that's in his messaging tonight because he has really hit that hard, I know this for a fact over the last eight months. Well, actually for four and a half years, as you know. So I think, I just hope it's a great message of hope and uniting the people tonight. I think that people, because he's fighting here in Minnesota, he's fighting all the stuff going on here, all the fraud. Then you got Waltz and all these people coming out going, nothing to see here. Nothing to see here. We're going to ban, we're going to ban guns. That's Waltz's new one. We're going to ban guns. People need to hear his voice and the truth of what's going on and then get the hope. I think that's really important that the message gives people hope.

[A]

We're going to toss to the Charlie Kirk show now with Andrew Colvette and the team. They got Posta. Then coming up, we're going to be back. You got Gruber, you got Eric Bolling, all of it starting at 5. Wall to wall coverage. Speech starts at 9. We'll turn to the speech afterwards. We're gonna have all the analysts and folks that are close to Real America's Voice on. We're probably gonna go until we run out of things to talk about which will be, I don't know, 11 o'.

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Clock.

[A]

But stay tuned to Real America's Voice all day. Mike Lindell, they love the fact of what you're doing. The posse has your back. You've been so impressive. I got to tell people around the globe, the world media is taking this 100 times more seriously. I mean, you know why? Because they understand Mike Lindell's a guy can beat Tim Walls and turn Minnesota maga. Right, Because Minnesota got a lot of patriots up there, right? They're just looking for a leader. But absolutely, we gotta cut. We gotta cut to the chase. This is Christmas. We want a deal. Talk to us about deals, sir.

[F]

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