Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room – Episode 5013: Live From AMFest 2025 Day 3 (Continued)

Date: December 20, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Location: AMFest 2025, live audience

Brief Overview

In this energized, packed episode, Steve Bannon hosts a raucous set of live interviews and rapid-fire discussions at AMFest 2025, focusing on the political, legal, and cultural battles facing the MAGA community. Guests include legal advocates for political prisoners, conservative candidates for governor and Senate, grassroots activists, and international voices warning of cultural decline. The show’s intensifying themes: fighting lawfare, reclaiming Christian values, mobilizing for 2026 and 2028, pushing back against political persecution, and hearing warnings from abroad about unchecked migration and national de-Christianization.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Legal Advocacy for Tina Peters and J6 Prisoners

Guest: John Case (Lawyer), Shane (Stand in the Gap Foundation)

• Tina Peters Update (00:20–06:00)

  • Legal team to file to assert Trump’s authority in pardoning Tina Peters, a political prisoner suffering dire conditions.
  • Emotional depiction of prison abuses: solitary confinement, inhumane treatment.
  • Bannon: “If you win in a federal court, can Trump send U.S. marshals to get her out?” (02:00)
  • John Case: Next steps will be announced, supporters can learn more at tinapeters.us.

• J6 Prisoners Support:

  • Shane: PTSD and trauma remain acute among J6ers; Stand in the Gap Foundation is raising funds and awareness.
  • Download anthem “Anthem of the Free” to support their work.

2. Ken Paxton: Texas AG’s Senate Run and Policy Stance

Guest: Ken Paxton (Texas Attorney General)

• Paxton’s Senate Campaign (06:50–17:00)
  • Bannon lauds Paxton as a stalwart against Biden administration legal overreach: “How many times did you sue him? 107 times?” (08:10)
  • Paxton: Critiques Senator John Cornyn’s legacy as ineffective and too aligned with Democratic policies.
    • “Can you name one good accomplishment of John Cornyn? None. None. None. Zero.” (09:40)
  • Calls for ending filibuster to enable legislative action: “If we always have to have 60 votes, nothing ever gets done.” (11:52)
  • Campaign support: kenpaxton.com; early voting starts February 17, 2026.

3. Andy Biggs & Tom Tiffany for Governor: Why the States Matter

Guests: Andy Biggs (AZ Congressman), Tom Tiffany (WI Congressman)

• Andy Biggs (17:00–25:00)

  • Leaving Congress: Federal reform is impossible due to “moral stasis and inertia.” (18:20)
  • States like Arizona must become “Joseph in Egypt”—prepared for national collapse if federal government fails.
    • “If America is going to be saved… the states better get ready.” (23:30)
  • Calls Katie Hobbs and state leadership “a disaster.”

• Tom Tiffany (55:00–63:00)

  • States are deciding between “woke and broke” or “prosperous.”
  • Key issues: Decline in education, high energy costs, bad business climate in Wisconsin.
  • “We're going to put the open for business sign back up in Wisconsin.” (61:10)
  • Website: tomtiffany.com

4. International Warnings: The UK and Brazil

Guests: Sarah (Pink Ladies, UK), Alan Dos Santos (Advisor to Bolsonaro), Javier (Rapids Español)

• UK Cultural Crisis (31:30–40:00)

  • Sarah: “England is at breaking point… heading towards a civil war.” (33:40)
  • Criticizes government’s handling of migration, attacks on Christian heritage; says Nigel Farage is insufficient: “You don't need reform, you need almost a revolutionary action inside the government.” (36:45)
  • Advocates for ADVANCE UK party and urges Americans to stop similar decline.

• Brazil: Bolsonaro’s Imprisonment (82:30–86:00)

  • Alan Dos Santos: Bolsonaro sentenced to 27 years “with no crime,” to break Brazil-US ties and move Brazil toward China.
  • Calls for U.S. pressure on JBS food conglomerate due to alleged corruption and complicity.
  • Javier: Hispanic media fighting “fake news,” promoting Trump to Hispanic voters in the U.S.

5. Grassroots & Individual Activism

Segments feature numerous audience members and activists:

• Student Blocked from Starting Turning Point Chapter (76:50–80:00)
  • Austin Shelley, 16, is blocked by Jesuit order from starting a conservative club: “The Jesuit order threatened to take away my school's funding… if they were to allow a Turning Point Club.” (78:30)
• Testimonies from Local GOP Activists:
  • Maricopa County precinct committeemen describe lawfare, threats for election work, and commitment to MAGA grassroots.
• Running Against Eric Swalwell:
  • Wendy Huang for Congress (CA-14): “Keep America for law abiding citizens first. …Make America godly again.” (50:20)

6. The Fight Against Lawfare and Political Persecution

• J6 Prisoners & Stewart Rhodes Case (86:00–89:40)
  • Ed Tarpley (attorney): DOJ “completely lied” about Stewart Rhodes. “Kangaroo court”—Rhodes got 18 years despite not entering the Capitol.
• Bannon: “Are we prosecuting anybody in the Justice Department for this? Absolutely not. And that is unbelievable.” (88:20)

7. Preserving Christian Values & Pro-Life Messaging

Guest: Kristen Hawkins (Students for Life)

• Campus Hostility & Pro-Life Advocacy (64:00–68:30)
  • Hawkins recounts students celebrating after her friend was shot for his views.
    • “Openly began cheering, dancing, laughing. And one young man raised his fist and said, this is war.” (65:50)
  • Notes Gen Z’s loss of faith; abortion as a core battleground for the nation’s soul.
  • Students for Life: 1,600 chapters fighting child sacrifice narrative, working with Turning Point chapters.

8. The Threat of Islamification: Texas Event Announcement

Guest: Glenn Story (Patriot Mobile, 81:00–84:00)**

• Islamification Warning (81:00–84:00)
  • Cites 30 new mosques in North Texas.
  • Announces January 9 event with Geert Wilders, described as top anti-Islamization figure.
  • Tickets/security via patriotmobile.saveTexas.

9. Personal Perseverance and “Next Man Up” Ethos

• Bannon and Team on Leadership Succession (95:00–End)
  • Bannon: “You are the greatest political force this country’s had in 250 years… When one man went down, everyone had to step up.”
  • “Next man up!” chant and call to action for AMFest 2026 and the coming elections.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Steve Bannon:
  • “This is the primal scream of a dying regime.” (00:02)
  • “When you go in those cell blocks, there’s no chairs to sit. They’re there to break you psychologically.” (04:30)
• John Case:
  “Our legal research shows that President Trump’s pardon of Tina Peters is valid. He had the legal constitutional authority to do that.” (02:50)
• Ken Paxton:
  “If we always have to have 60 votes, nothing ever gets done… Democrats, if they get it, they're going to make D.C. a state, Puerto Rico a state, and have 30 justices on the Supreme Court.” (11:48)
• Sarah (Pink Ladies):
  “Our government is allowing 2,000 men to come across the Channel on rubber dinghies… Young women and children are being sexually assaulted, raped and murdered on a weekly basis… England is at breaking point.” (33:00)
• Kristen Hawkins:
  “When I told [the students] my friend had been shot, they openly began cheering, dancing, laughing. …One young man raised his fist and said, ‘This is war.’” (65:50)
• Ed Tarpley:
  “Stuart Rhodes never went into the Capitol. There was never a plan to go into the Capitol. …The Department of Justice completely lied about what Stuart Rhodes did.” (86:30)
• Alan Dos Santos:
  “Bolsonaro is being tortured in prison with no crime. What they did to him is what they wanted to do with Trump.” (84:40)
• Bannon (to the crowd):
  "You are the greatest political force this country's had in 250 years… Next man up!" (97:00)

Important Timestamps

| Segment/Guest | Start Time (MM:SS) | |---------------------------------|--------------------| | Tina Peters legal fight | 00:20 | | J6 prisoner support | 05:00 | | Ken Paxton interview | 06:50 | | Andy Biggs AZ governor run | 17:00 | | Tom Tiffany WI governor run | 55:00 | | Pink Ladies UK: Sarah | 31:30 | | Wendy Huang (CA-14) | 50:20 | | Students for Life: Hawkins | 64:00 | | Tom Tiffany interview | 61:10 | | Student blocked (Austin Shelley)| 76:50 | | Patriot Mobile – Islamification | 81:00 | | Ed Tarpley on Stewart Rhodes | 86:00 | | Bolsonaro’s case: Dos Santos | 84:40 | | Next Man Up closing | 95:00 |

Closing

The episode pulses with urgency and defiance, amplifying the themes of standing strong under lawfare, the necessity of grass-roots mobilization, and the conservative struggle to defend American and Christian values amid hostile cultural tides. Bannon and guests leave the AMFest crowd fired up: “Next man up!”—a rallying cry for 2026 and beyond.