Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room – Episode 5015

Date: December 22, 2025
Main Theme: "Zelensky Must Go; What Caused The Reiner Murders"

1. Episode Overview

This War Room episode, hosted by Stephen K. Bannon, focuses on two broad themes:

• Geopolitical upheaval, particularly in Ukraine, Europe, Latin America, and the MAGA movement’s vision for U.S. foreign policy.
• The psychological and societal factors behind the Reiner murders, touching on psychiatric drugs and the behavioral health system.
  With frequent guests and contributors—including Steve Cortez, Jim Rickards, Alan dos Santos, Sheila Mathis, and Mike Lindell—the discussion weaves together political, economic, and cultural anxieties, all in classic “War Room” populist style.

2. Key Discussion Points and Insights

A. The Legacy of January 6th and the Anthem of the Free (00:30–06:30)

• Opening Segment: Begins with a performance of an anthem by the J6 Prison Choir, commemorating those jailed after January 6th.
• Bannon’s Reflection: Bannon reminisces about the fallout of January 6th, his own legal troubles, and Trump’s, casting the current American situation as a battle between patriots and “globalists, progressives, and jihadists.”
• Quote (Steve Bannon, 01:30):
  “It’s not the United States that was bequeathed to us. It’s a collection of globalists and progressives and jihadists. All of it a witch’s brew, trying to steal this country. And you’re fighting back.”

B. European Turmoil, Migration, and the OECD (06:30–14:18)

• Paris Cancels New Year’s Festivities: Steve Cortez describes Paris canceling its major celebrations due to security concerns linked to “mass migration” and violence.
• Criticism of ‘Suicidal Empathy’: The hosts blame “young Muslim men of African descent” for violence, asserting European elites foster mass migration in the name of empathy, yet create instability (06:30).
• OECD Critique:
  • Steve Cortez (08:03) explains the OECD’s impact as the “epicenter of the rules-based international order,” working for the benefit of “credentialed transnational elites” at the expense of working-class people.
  • He outlines the “America First” message he delivered to the OECD: the U.S. should stop being Europe’s protector, focus on hemispheric partnerships, and see China—not Russia—as the primary threat.
• Quote (Steve Cortez, 08:03):
  “The OECD…is the brain trust, the epicenter of the, quote, rules-based or international order…fantastic for credentialed transnational elites, but…horrific for working class people.”
• Monroe Doctrine 2.0: U.S. foreign policy is pivoting to focus on the Americas and limit involvement or funding of “misadventures” in Western Europe.

C. Latin America, Hemispheric Defense, and the Trump Corollary (14:18–28:11)

• National Security Strategy Shifts:
  • Jim Rickards highlights that the new U.S. National Security Strategy puts the Western Hemisphere front-and-center, relegating Europe to the back (page 29/30).
  • Trump’s “corollary” extends the Monroe Doctrine, framing contractual/loan arrangements (esp. with China) as 21st-century colonization to be resisted.
• Brazil as the Key:
  • Alan dos Santos (Bolsonaro ally) laments ex-president Bolsonaro’s imprisonment under Lula, asserting Lula is aligned with the CCP and weakening Brazil’s tradition as a U.S. ally.
  • The discussion suggests the U.S. must treat Lula like a hostile partner, not a friend.
• JBS and Corruption:
  • Santos describes JBS (major beef supplier in US & Brazil) as a government-backed, corrupt entity tied to Lula.
• Quote (Alan dos Santos, 22:28):
  “What is happening with Bolsonaro right now? It’s not justice…it’s a deliberate act of political cruelty...Lula is doing that against Bolsonaro.”

D. Weaponizing Financial Power and Global Resource Pressure (28:36–39:17)

• Rickards on Financial Warfare: Predicts the “age of financial warfare”—using trade, tariffs, and resource allocation to pressure adversaries like China, Brazil, and Russia.
• Oil as a Political Weapon: Proposes flooding the market with U.S. oil to drop global prices:
  • Hurts opponents (Russia, Brazil under Lula, Saudis)
  • Solves U.S. affordability/inflation and pressures Putin to negotiate
• Quote (Jim Rickards, 38:09):
  “Drill, baby, drill. Open up federal lands for leasing, Alaska, Gulf of America, et cetera…you get the price of oil down, you’re gonna solve your affordability problem, your inflation problem, you’re gonna get Putin to do a deal and you put pressure on Brazil. It just does ten things at once.”

E. Ukraine/Russia War and Call for Regime Change in Kyiv (30:35–36:56)

• Ukraine Conflict Analysis:
  • Rickards argues Ukraine cannot win militarily; its only leverage now is “ruthless” special operations, like assassinations of Russian generals, that risk broadening the war.
• Key Insight:
  • The West will not push for true peace because its real aim is “getting rid of Putin.”
  • Zelenskyy depicted as corrupt and a block to peace; Bannon and Rickards call for his removal as a precondition for ending the conflict.
• Quote (Jim Rickards, 34:09):
  “Zelensky doesn’t want peace. He wants continued war. So do the Brits, so do the Germans and the French…The only way we’re going to get out of this…step one, get rid of Zelenskyy, whatever it takes.”

F. Reiner Murders: Psychiatry, Pharmaceuticals, and Suppressed Truth (42:43–48:00)

• Discussion with Sheila Mathis (AbleChild):
  • Expresses alarm at the court sealing of Nicholas Reiner’s psychiatric records, given his long history of psychiatric drug use.
  • Suggests the defense aims to blame psychiatric saturation to avoid the death penalty and have Reiner institutionalized, with eventual release a possibility.
  • Larger critique: Claims the FBI’s Behavioral Analysis Unit is trained by pharma to defend psych drugs, suppressing the link between psychiatric meds and violent outbursts.
  • Warns about a national security risk as systemic failures in behavioral health and pharmaceutical-industrial collusion are not addressed.
• Quote (Sheila Mathis, 43:20):
  “This upcoming trial is going to be like a Super Bowl of psychiatric saturation in our country…because the defense attorney is looking to get him to get life in a state psychiatric hospital.”
  • Another notable point: John Hinckley’s eventual release after Reagan’s shooting used as a precedent.

3. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|-------------------------|-------| | 01:30 | Steve Bannon | “It’s not the United States that was bequeathed to us. It’s a collection of globalists and progressives and jihadists. All of it a witch’s brew, trying to steal this country. And you’re fighting back.” | | 08:03 | Steve Cortez | “The OECD…is the brain trust, the epicenter of the, quote, rules-based or international order…fantastic for credentialed transnational elites, but…horrific for working class people.” | | 22:28 | Alan dos Santos | “What is happening with Bolsonaro right now? It’s not justice…it’s a deliberate act of political cruelty...Lula is doing that against Bolsonaro.” | | 34:09 | Jim Rickards | “Zelensky doesn’t want peace. He wants continued war…step one, get rid of Zelenskyy, whatever it takes…until you get rid of him, there’s not going to be a breakthrough.” | | 38:09 | Jim Rickards | “Drill, baby, drill…you get the price of oil down, you’re gonna solve your affordability problem, you’re gonna get Putin to do a deal and you put pressure on Brazil.” | | 43:20 | Sheila Mathis | “This upcoming trial is going to be like a Super Bowl of psychiatric saturation in our country…because the defense attorney is looking to get him to get life in a state psychiatric hospital.” |

4. Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------|----------------| | Anthem of the Free / Jan. 6th reflection | 00:00–06:30 | | Paris/Security, OECD, and U.S.-Europe relations | 06:30–14:18 | | National Security Memo, Monroe Doctrine 2.0 | 14:18–21:42 | | Brazilian politics: Bolsonaro v. Lula, JBS | 21:42–28:11 | | Russia-Ukraine War, Peace Blocked by Zelensky | 30:35–36:56 | | Using Oil as Economic Weapon | 37:54–39:17 | | The Reiner Murders, Psychiatry & Pharma | 42:43–48:00 |

5. Resource & Guest Links

• Steve Cortez: CortezInvestigates.com
• Jim Rickards: RickardsWarRoom.com, @RealJimRickards on X
• Alan dos Santos: alan-dos-santos.net
• Sheila Mathis: AbleChild.org

Tone:
Persistent, defiant populism with strong anti-establishment, anti-globalist, and conspiratorial overtones. The hosts frame current global events as existential threats, frequently demonizing political opponents and offering solutions via unapologetic nationalism and financial warfare.

6. Conclusion

For listeners:

• The episode paints a sweeping picture of “MAGA” foreign doctrine, warning against “globalist” elites, European instability due to migration, and the perceived betrayal by Latin American leaders aligned with China.
• It claims victory is possible with discipline, economic leverage, and regime change (Zelensky).
• Domestically, it raises alarms about failures in the psychiatric and pharmaceutical systems, linking them to headline violence and calling for transparency and reform.

If you want a taste of how the MAGA right is interpreting—and planning to influence—global hot spots and domestic crises, this episode is essential listening.