Episode 5017: The Take Down Of John Brennan; Freeing Tina Peters

Summary

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Bannon’s War Room: Episode 5017 – The Take Down Of John Brennan; Freeing Tina Peters

Date: December 23, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Main Guests: John Solomon, John Case, Peter Navarro, Mike Davis

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Overview

In this episode, Stephen K. Bannon delivers a packed agenda focused on two major narratives: the reported criminal grand jury investigation into former CIA Director John Brennan, and the ongoing legal and moral campaign to "free" Tina Peters, labeled here as "the number one political prisoner in the world." The show also covers economic updates, the impact of Trump administration policies, and the looming issue of artificial intelligence regulation.

The tone is combative, urgent, and celebratory, with Bannon and his guests framing recent developments as vindications of the MAGA movement’s worldview and a dramatic turning point in legal and political battles.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. The Criminal Investigation of John Brennan

[00:53–11:06, 32:17–36:09]

Guest: John Solomon (JustTheNews.com)

• Major Development: John Solomon reports that John Brennan is officially a target in a federal grand jury probe in Florida—potentially facing indictment over his role in advancing the discredited Steele Dossier and misleading Congress about Russian interference disclosures.
• Venue Strategy: Brennan's lawyers allege "forum shopping" to place the trial in Miami. They're seeking to move the case to Washington, D.C. or Northern Virginia, likely for a more sympathetic jury.
• Evidence and Urgency: Brennan’s legal team is focusing on legal process issues, not substantive defense against the claims he lied to Congress.
• Notable Quote:
  • "For the first time, we have written evidence from one of the targets of that investigation, the former CIA director John Brennan, that these cases have been consolidated...[and] sent to Miami."
    — John Solomon [01:19]
• Legal Strategy: John Solomon speculates prosecutors might start with simple perjury charges to pressure Brennan into cooperation and potentially "roll up" other figures related to the "grand conspiracy."
• Context: Reference is made to previous warnings from the FBI to the Justice Department about the Mar-a-Lago raid lacking probable cause. This is presented as evidence of a broader "weaponization" conspiracy.

Memorable Moment:

• Solomon expresses that in 40 years covering DOJ/FBI he’s rarely seen a defensive letter to a judge like the one sent by Brennan’s team—a sign of panic:

  "I've very seldom seen a letter like this at any time in my 40 years covering the Justice Department and the FBI."
  — John Solomon [04:07]

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2. The Campaign to Free Tina Peters

[12:12–21:47, 16:33–21:47]

Guest: John Case (Attorney for Tina Peters)

• Summary: Tina Peters, former Colorado elections official, is portrayed as a "political prisoner" serving a nine-year sentence. Her defense argues she acted as a whistleblower in preserving election records—thus immune from prosecution and eligible for a presidential pardon.
• Legal Approach: Filing a motion to assert Trump’s constitutional authority to pardon Peters and argue her immunity due to federal duties.
• Prison Conditions: Peters is reportedly held in sweltering, improperly maintained conditions intended for higher-security prisoners, not minimum-security/first-offense, with allegations of punitive treatment for speech and inadequate medical care.
• Notable Quotes:
  • “She’s in prison because of her speech. She criticized the voting system and the judge said you get nine years.”
    — John Case [13:11]
  • "Indoor air temperatures must be at least 61 degrees… the temperature in Tina’s unit yesterday morning was 96.3 degrees…”
    — John Case [17:08]
• Political Framing: Governor Polis is depicted as intransigent, using Peters’ incarceration as a campaign posture for the left.

Call to Action:

• Supporters are told to visit tinapeters.us for advocacy and fundraising.

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3. Economic Updates & Trump Administration Policy

[22:06–28:23, 28:33–32:17]

Guest: Dr. Peter Navarro

• Strong Economy: Bannon and Navarro tout the Q3 GDP numbers (4.3%) and robust consumer spending as proof of Trump’s successful economic stewardship.
• Media Reaction: They note even typically critical media, like Morning Joe, are forced to acknowledge the economic numbers.
• Policy Highlights: Navarro points to the "big beautiful bill," huge tax refunds pending, and resurgence in manufacturing/spending.
• Notable Quotes:
  • "It’s the same drill… but it’s on steroids."
    — Peter Navarro [25:03]
  • "We've got the tax cut big beautiful bill coming now. What does that mean? You got 100% expensing. That's huge."
    — Peter Navarro [25:03]
• Inflation & Investment: Lower oil prices and tariff-driven policy are referenced as drivers for economic recovery.

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4. Artificial Intelligence Regulation and the Tech Industry

[36:09–40:57]

Guest: Mike Davis

• Emerging Threat: Bannon frames AI as a top concern for voters, citing polling: “the next biggest issue” after the economy, with bipartisan concern about unregulated technology and its impact on children and communities.
• Policy Win Claim: The podcast team claims success in blocking “AI amnesty” for the tech industry, ensuring states can regulate on core issues (the “four Cs”: children, conservatives, creators, and communities).
• Notable Quote:
  • "President Trump should thank us... for saving him from making a very bad decision by following the Tech Bros’ advice and doing AI amnesty..."
    — Mike Davis [38:01]
• Strategic Framing: Tech industry depicted as out-of-touch with average Americans, seeking deregulation, but now forced to accept limits due to grassroots pressure.

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5. Dominion, Smartmatic, and Election Security

[33:51–35:35]

Guest: Mike Davis

• CFIUS Review: Push for Trump administration to declassify past CFIUS reviews between Smartmatic and Sequoia, raising alarms about foreign involvement in U.S. voting infrastructure.
• Action Item: Bannon queries which officials have declassification authority, promising to mobilize his audience (“War Room Posse”) based on Davis's guidance.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “The weaponization investigation has moved from other grand juries... to Miami now…”
  — John Solomon [01:19]

• “She’s in prison because of her speech... the judge said you get nine years.”
  — John Case [13:11]

• “I’ve very seldom seen a letter like this at any time in my 40 years covering the Justice Department and the FBI.”
  — John Solomon [04:07]

• “President Trump should thank us for saving him from making a very bad decision by following The Tech Bros’ advice and doing AI amnesty…”
  — Mike Davis [38:01]

• “It’s the same drill… but it’s on steroids.”
  — Peter Navarro [25:03]

• “Support Tina Peters, go to tinapeters.us”
  — John Case [21:22]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:53 – Episode start, introduction of John Solomon/John Brennan case
• 01:19 – Details of Brennan investigation, venue shopping, legal strategy
• 04:07 – Solomon notes rarity and urgency of defense’s letter to judge
• 06:17 – Grand jury timing, possible conspiracy charges
• 08:47 – Venue preferences, attempts to move trial to D.C.
• 11:06 – Solomon signs off
• 12:12 – Tina Peters segment, legal maneuvers, prison conditions
• 13:11 – Case on Peters’ sentencing over speech
• 17:08 – Details of Peters’ prison conditions
• 21:22 – Call to support Tina Peters
• 22:06 – Transition to economic segment, Dr. Peter Navarro
• 24:15 – Economic figures, retail spending, implications for Trump agenda
• 25:03 – Navarro on economic policy and outcomes
• 28:33 – Analysis of shipbuilding policy, economic “animal spirits”
• 32:17 – Mike Davis on grand jury updates, CFIUS, Dominion
• 36:09 – AI regulation, Tech Bros, four C’s, legislative wins
• 40:57 – Final calls for audience action, sign-off for guests

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Conclusion

This episode serves as a rallying cry for the War Room audience, celebrating supposed legal momentum against "deep state" figures and denouncing political and judicial opponents as corrupt. The episode aims both to inform and energize the audience for further political combat in the legal, electoral, and cultural arenas—presenting the MAGA movement as both vindicated on past controversies (Russiagate, election validity, economic policy) and beset by entrenched enemies domestically and globally.

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For more information

• John Solomon: justthenews.com
• Tina Peters legal campaign: tinapeters.us
• Article III Project/Mike Davis: article3project.org

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Transcript

[A]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to get a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.

[B]

Country, this country will be saved.

[A]

War Room.

[B]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[A]

It's Tuesday, the 23rd of December. Year for Lord 2025. We're so packed today, we came to a cold open. May get to part of that later. I want to start. We got legal in the deep state to start off with. Let's go to John Solomon, the six o' clock hour. Just the news on Real America's Voice. So, John, you're now able to report that Brennan is actually under criminal investigation, sir, by grand jury.

[C]

Yeah. Not only that, his lawyers have told the chief judge in Miami that they believe their client has been named a target. A target is defined as someone in the U.S. attorney's Manual who is likely to be indicted. You're supposed to get a target notification shortly before a grand jury is asked to indict you. And so the fact that the judges confirmed this to the chief judge and then also went to the chief judge in Miami and said, hey, we want you to put the kibosh on this. We think they're judge shopping. They're forum shopping. They're doing all these terrible things in Florida. Chief Judge, please intervene and protect our client from being indicted. What does this letter reveal to us? It reveals that the weaponization investigation has moved from other grand juries, including Pennsylvania, Washington, D.C. and New York, to Miami now and most likely will be housed in Fort Pierce, Florida. This is the grand conspiracy concept that Cash Patel wrote in that memo last year, earlier this year that you and I talked about. For the first time, we have written evidence from one of the targets of that investigation, the former CIA director John Brennan, that these cases have been consolidated, that they've been sent to Miami. Now they argue this is forum shopping, that they really want Judge Eileen Cannon, the woman who dismissed one of Jack Smith's cases against President Trump. But the truth of the matter is the reason the Justice Department has put this investigation in Fort Pierce is that one of the last acts of what Cash Patel and Pam Bondi view as a conspiracy actually occurred in Florida. That was the raid on President Trump's home and then the subsequent prosecution that was brought there for classified documents. So the venue isn't arbitrarily picked. It's actually been chosen because that is where one of the more contemporaneous alleged crimes, the crimes that are still under the statute of limitations occurred. And therefore, you roll up all the rest of that conspiracy there. And I just want to remind people what we talked about last week on that very case, that raid of President Trump's home in Mar a Lago in August 2022. We now know that the FBI had warned the Obama, excuse me, the Biden Justice Department that they did not have probable cause to go and do that search to do that raid. And the Justice Department proceeded anyways. That is a potential civil liberties violation. That is the sort of thing that Harmeet Dhillon last week on our show, just right after your show came on and said, I think I see a conspiracy to violate President Trump's and other conservative civil liberties, and I'm pursuing it that way. That's the sort of thing that I think is now consolidating in the state of Florida.

[A]

Talk to us about in what position do they have to be in when they go to a judge like that and say, hey, they're targeting us unfairly? That doesn't happen all the time. Tell me, why would Brennan have his lawyer? Very rare.

[C]

I've very seldom seen a letter like this at any time in my 40 years covering the Justice Department and the FBI. So there is some panic, there is some belief that they must have an indictment forthcoming. Now, let's think about that. We're at the end of a calendar year. Typically, grand juries expire at the end of December and the new ones begin in January. Now, that's not always the case. Sometimes a grand jury can be extended three or six months if they're working on something. But one possibility here is that the lawyers fear that this is coming before December 31, before the traditional expiration of grand juries in a district. And so there seems to be an urgency to this letter. What's interesting is there isn't a real factual dispute or defense offered of John Brennan. It's all process, which is, we don't believe this should be in Miami. We think this is unfair. This is farm shop and judge shopping. We don't like Judge Eileen Cannon. Okay, but what about the underlying question? We know that the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard and the current CIA Director, John Ratcliffe, said that they had significant evidence which they referred to the Justice Department, showing that John Brennan lied in 2023 when he told Congress he wasn't trying to get the dirty, discredited Steele dossier into the intelligence community assessment that the Obama administration released just before Donald Trump became president. That intelligence assessment, which was in fact based on the Steele dossier, much more heavily than was admitted to at the time, claimed that Vladimir Putin had tried to help President Trump win the election. In fact, the career people in the CIA and the other intelligence agencies didn't believe that. They actually believe that Vladimir Putin had stopped his active measures in October 2023 and didn't choose a candidate that he wanted to win. But the Obama administration wanted that outcome. And so John Brennan testified, I didn't push to have that in then have that stand put in to get that conclusion. In fact, John Brennan's own emails and emails of his staff suggest he did, in fact. And so that's the evidence that's not really addressed in the the letter by these lawyers. They are trying to fight the process, not the actual merits of the allegation.

[A]

I just want to make sure I understand this. You've been telling us in Mike Davis, too, be patient. This is coming, but this grand jury is going to be empaneled, really starting in January as your thing get past the end of year. Are they doing this because they have a statute of limitation problems? Is there something else going on in process that we don't understand, that this has moved a little quicker than even you and Mike Davis told us to, hey, be patient. This will probably be 1Q26.

[C]

Yeah. So I think at the end of the day, this case may be just a very simple case, which is he testified X the documents show. Yes. We don't need to waste time. Let's bring the first charge here, see if maybe we can get a deal with John Brennan, have him roll on other people that might be of interest to us or begin this prosecution and put others on notice that they might want to make a deal before they go to the John Brennan train Express. So prosecutors often have multiple strategies. It isn't just one person that they're looking at. They may be looking at other people. We know about 30 or 40 grand jury subpoenas came out of this Miami district recently. And so if they had a simple case and they didn't need to carry it over to next year. You start there and then you go get the more complicated stuff starting at the beginning of a new grand jury. But it probably also is a warning sign to other people saying, hey, you want to go the John Brennan route or you want to make a deal now and roll up? That is a classic conspiracy racketeering strategy that prosecutors use. Jason Canones is a very well respected and very skilled lawyer and he has a team of career prosecutors who are really, really strong conspiracy and racketeering type prosecutors. They've done the really big tough trials like the drug cartels and others. And so he's got an all star team down in Miami and it may be why Pam Bondi chose to put it there. And this just may be the opening salvo we'll have to see. We gotta wait and see if a grand jury will indict. We don't know if they will, but certainly there's been a notification according to John Brennan's lawyers, that they think he's going to be indicted.

[A]

The game here from Brennan's point of view and the rest of these guys is that if they are going to go through this process by hook or crook, they somehow have to get it to D.C. or Northern Virginia.

[D]

Correct.

[A]

Because they're going to have more amenable grand jury polls, judges, even prosecutors, but particularly a jury. Is that their game now? And people will be focused on that is try to move heaven and earth to get this into D.C. it certainly.

[C]

Seems like that is going to be the question here. A venue change. They want to do this. Obviously John Brennan's testimony occurred in Washington D.C. they'd love to be in a Washington D.C. jury poll of 93, 94% Democrats who don't like Donald Trump. But we'll have to wait and see. I get the prosecution will respond and make a case wide. And if they view that John Brennan's lie is part of a long term cover up that includes being able to go after Jack Smith, to go after President Trump with Jack Smith later in Florida, they'll probably be given some latitude by the courts to make that case. Obviously the connectivity between those cases will have to be shown at some point, but you're exactly right. The most likely scenario here is they want to get this to a blue, a blue, blue city and not a red Jury poll like Fort Pierce would ultimately provide the prosecutors.

[A]

John, I assume you believe like I believe that it's not just going to be quiet at Mar A Lago over the next couple of weeks, the holiday period. Do you Expect some fireworks on, on a whole host of, a whole host of. Since being a naval officer yesterday was the greatest, the greatest press conference ever. But you expect some fireworks coming out of Mar A Lago. Amazing. Yeah, amazing.

[C]

Listen, when Donald Trump's on vacation, he's still working two full time jobs. Yeah, I think, I think, listen, when he's on vacation he's working too far. He just manages to get a golf game in every so often.

[D]

But that's it.

[C]

Yeah, it will be a busy holiday season. You know, I think there is going to be a Fed chairman announcement soon. Right, you got that coming down. He's working on creating, I think what will be the largest housing reform bill since the GI Bill in the 1950s, which gave us a great boom in America during the Eisenhower years. So I think that there are a lot of big things up his sleeve that will be coming out and I think also his cabinet is working full time. I'm trying to get an interview with Pam Bondi and some others to get some these questions answered. I don't think anybody's resting over the holidays. There may be a golf game here and there, but it's going to be a busy time in Mar a Lago.

[A]

John Solomon, we're going to be working every day we're having shows up. I know you are too. Where do people go for all your content, sir?

[C]

Yeah, just the news.com is the website. J. Solomon reports is the handle on all social media and as I say all the time. I'm very lucky to follow you every night at six o' clock here on Real America's Voice after your great show.

[A]

We're lucky to have you on here because you lay out months in advance what's going to happen and this has happened now. So thank you so much, sir. Great way to start the Christmas holidays. Merry Christmas, sir. We're actually going to be on our Christmas Eve show tomorrow. We're going to be in both Bethlehem with Jason Jones and we're going to be at the Vatican in Rome with Ben Harnibald. Some more on that later. Also the President tonight, I think it's 8 o' clock on CBS @ the Kennedy Center. Want to make sure we pile on that, get some great ratings. It's going to be fun. President Trump as the master ceremonies and it's pretty open this morning on Truth Social. He wants us to judge how he does. So let's do that. We go from the grand conspiracy against President Trump and the MAGA movement now proceeding through a criminal grand jury in South Florida to the number one political prisoner in the world, and that would be Tina Peters in a maximum security woman's prison in Colorado. Her lawyer, John Case, joins us. John, my understanding is that you've got some big legal maneuvers that are coming today or tomorrow.

[E]

Sir? STEVE that's correct. We are going to file a motion in a court in Colorado that will prove that President Trump has the power under the US Constitution to pardon Tina Peters and also that she is immune from prosecution because she was performing a federal duty to preserve election records and that's why they charged her, is because she preserved the records they don't want anyone to.

[A]

See. Why is this people very confused. Why is this so controversial? Why is the governor of of Colorado and the secretary of state in the attorney general? Why are they not working with federal officials here, the federal official Bureau of Prisons, Department of Justice, Others have have offered to try to figure this out and work it out. Why are they stonewalling this, SIR.

[E]

Well, I never can explain what other people do, but typically when people have made a mistake and they've bet a lot on it, they don't want to publicly announce they made a mistake. And in this case, the governor, the secretary of state and the Colorado attorney general have bet the farm that they can keep Tina Peters locked up for nine years, despite the fact that she didn't commit a crime. And the judge who sentenced her told her that he was putting her in prison for nine years because of the things that he personally disagreed with, the things she was saying criticizing the voting system in Colorado. That's why she's in prison, because of her speech. She criticized the voting system and the judge said you get nine.

[A]

Years. JOHN can you hang on for one second? I want to drill down a little more on this and I want to talk about the contest conditions of Tina Peters, who's a national hero, A patriot, over 70 years old, has had cancer, is a gold star mother, and I realize I say she's being tortured, you have calmer language, but she's being, I believe, mistreated in this maximum security Colorado prison. So Short commercial break JOHN Case, Tina Peters, Lawyer on the other side, Peter Navarro, We've got Joe Lavarnier from from Treasury, Peter Navarro from the White House talking about the economy. Joe Allen's going to join us. Mike Davis, we're very, very, very packed today in the world. Short commercial break Johnny Khan of Breitbart will take us out with the Tea Party anthem. If you could make one holiday wish, would you wish to be free from your credit card and other debt. Lets see if we can help you with that. If we could give yourself one gift this holiday season, would it be finally to get some relief from your credit card and other debt? I might have a solution. Here's why. Now's the time to make a move. This time of year, credit card and loan companies close out their books. They clean up past due accounts. They sell or write off the debt to clear their books. That means if you have credit card debt and unpaid bills and lenders may be more open to negotiating and settling your account before you're in, that means right now, and I mean right now, you may actually have leverage. And Done With Debt knows how to use this to your advantage. They monitor lender trends and understand the year end pressure on creditors. They use that timing to negotiate hard on your behalf. Now's the time to get out from under crushing debt and interest payments without bankruptcy or taking on new loans. Done with Debt goes to work for you Month one with one clear goal, to reduce your total debt and leave you with more money every month. Get started now because your leverage may disappear at the end of the year. Chat with a done with debt specialist at donewithdbcom. That's donewithdebt.com donewithdat.com do it.

[B]

Today. Here's your host, Stephen K.

[A]

Ban. Okay, John, just to reset, you are going to file today or tomorrow in I guess federal court and you're going to this is challenging Colorado, let's be blunt, just blowing off the president, the Bureau of Prisons, Department of Justice in this presidential pardon. Can you give us an update? Because I think one of the reasons people are so concerned here and they wanted something around Christmas was the condition of Tina Peters and maybe the deteriorating condition of Tina Peters and the condition she's held in.

[E]

Sir, yes, Tina's health is not good. She has a cough that she's had since August and at times she's extremely fatigued. And she it's not just her, Steve, it's every inmate at that facility. The regulation for temperature, for example, is that indoor air temperatures must be at least 61 degrees during the coldest months and less than 86 degrees in the warmest months. And that's mandatory. The temperature in Tina's unit Yesterday morning was 96.3 degrees. That is sweltering. And she told me yesterday in the afternoon that it was even hotter. They wouldn't tell the women what the temperature was. They had one fan for several cells so that the women would have to take turns using the fan. One of the Guards told one of the inmates that if she and her roommate complained about it anymore, they could be charged with inciting a riot. La Vista is the only facility that doesn't in Colorado. The only Colorado prison that won't allow video visits with family. It is the facility. La Vista is not designed for minimum security prisoners like Tina. She's a level one that's minimum security for people who have no prior offenses and are not violent. So she belongs in a level one facility. But Colorado doesn't have any level one facilities for women. That is seems like discrimination based solely on gender. This facility is not maintained when the DOJ came in to inspect it last week. Before the inspection, the inmates were forced to work 16 hours a day, scrubbing walls, painting over the mold, replacing tiles that had fallen off. And the DOJ apparently took note of a lot of those violations of state regulations. I just wanted to mention, Steve, in closing, that Governor Polis can solve this problem. The Department of the Federal Bureau of Prisons made an offer to Governor Polis to take Tina Peters out of state custody and put her in a minimum security facility where she belongs. He refused. On December 16, Governor Polis said in a public statement, quote, tina Peters should get the same treatment as other inmates. Well, I'd like to mention one other inmate and the treatment that he got. In 2021, Governor Polis commuted the sentence of a man who killed four people by driving recklessly. Governor Polis commuted the sentence of that man. 90%. 90% of his sentence was commuted by the governor. So if he would do that for Tina Peters, she'd be out today and that would be equal treatment. The gentleman whose sentence. Yeah, he.

[A]

Commuted. Yeah, he's, he's, he's not going to do that. You're going to have to win this in court or we're going to send federal marshals. And you got two choices. Either case you win and your legal team ticked in you guys with the law, or you have to use the law and you know you're going to have to deputize U.S. marshals, go down there and get her because there's the Polis is dug in. This is what he's running his campaign for, this radical Democrats on his political prisoner that he's got captured. That's unfortunately where we are in America, John. Where do people go to support Tina Peters.

[E]

Sir? To support Tina Peters and the effort to get rid of these voting machines which are a menace to our civil rights, go to tinapeters.

[A]

Us. John, thank you so much. Appreciate you, sir. Look forward to talking to you over the holidays. Good luck today or tomorrow in your filing. Appreciate.

[F]

You. Thank.

[E]

You.

[A]

Steve Brennan as a future convict. Tina Peters as a political prisoner. And I'll bring in my convict brother, Dr. Peter Navarro. Dr. Navarro, we'll talk about maybe the prison some other time because I.

[F]

Think your book gives such a sweet.

[A]

Transition. Yeah. So and I had you on today. Merry Christmas. Working with the president. Yeah, Merry Christmas. You've been working with the president on the shipbuilding effort. You've been the one, you kept Philadelphia Naval Yard under President Trump's guidance open. You've done more for the shipbuilding. Yesterday was just magnificent. But we do have, we do have issues we got to deal with today in explosive economy. We got a cold open for you. I know you're jammed for time. Let's play it. And then we'll bring back in.

[B]

Dr. Peter Navarre, the US consumer this year. Did you hear about.

[A]

This? I.

[B]

Did. They drove up retail spending more than 4% from last season in store shopping. I was really shocked to find this out. Accounts for 73% of the purchases. Well, the rest were made online. But E commerce appears to be where most of the growth is happening. Certainly how it's happening in my house. But let's just say with all of us kind of trying to sort through how the economy is doing, this is good news. 4% better than last year. That's something we can look at go. It's pretty good. Yes, it's great news. And in fact we got, we got two actually stats this morning. The, the visa news on one end, which is very helpful. And then we got Q3 numbers for the economy on the other that actually just came out at 8:30 this morning and overshot by a large expectation. We were supposed to get that number by the way back in October. But because of what was happening with the government shutdown and the other issues, we didn't. But nonetheless, that number is huge. 4.3% on GDP. So you have, I think what looks increasingly like a surprisingly healthy economy. Actually perhaps more healthy than we've given it credit for. Andrew, if you, we do need a caveat here and I'm sure we'll figure this out later. But I know a lot of spending has been driven by the richest of the rich and that's artificially pushed that number up. So we'll have to sort through this. But if that 4% is broad based, that's really good.

[A]

News. Zoom, zoom. 4.3%, 4.3%. That is a nice jump. And I know many may question day. The gathering. But, but on the surface, this would be the strongest quarter going back to the third quarter of 2023 when it was 4.7. This is strong. 3.5 on consumption blows away the 2.7 we were expecting. That would be the best since last quarter of 24 on the price index. Dr. Peter Navarro, tell us you saw, you saw Morning Joe. They had to jump on poor Aaron Sorkin or Andrew Ross Sorkin and say, no, no, no, no, no. It's all done by the rich. It's all driven by the rich. Walk us through what happened this morning.

[F]

Steve. I have a kind of like a deja vu moment. I can't tell whether this is 2017 or 2025 because back in 2017 it was the same rhetoric on TV. They continually underestimated the ability of the Trump economy to grow and they continually overestimated the effects tariffs and trade policy might have on the inflation rate. And it's like you would think they would learn from the last time to be a little bit more circumspect when they jump. But Morning Joe and Andrew Ross Sorkin basically applauding the economy for Donald Trump. That's, that's whiplash. That's your Christmas present, brother. But look, it's the same drill. We're doing the same drill, but it's on steroids, right? We've got the tax cut big beautiful bill coming now. What does that mean? You got 100% expensing. That's huge. So you got a lot of investment taking place, driving growth. You've got what is going to be the biggest refund for the middle class and blue collar workers at tax time that we've ever seen in history. And I'm not going hyperbole here. I'm just pointing out what they're doing is they're collecting the money from people by the old rules, like as if the tax bill hadn't, Ben. And so we're going to unleash that in the refund when the time came. So that's.

[E]

Working.

[F]

Steve. The price of oil is down from 75 bucks a barrel back down to below 60. That pushes on not just through transportation and gas prices, which are below two bucks now in some places, but it's food as well, because fertilizer is made from petroleum and fertilizer is probably the highest cost input. So that's working. We got trade policy bringing in a bunch of investment from abroad, literally trillions of dollars. That's going to push up the growth.

[E]

Rate.

[F]

And here we go.

[A]

Again. It's A virtuous. It's a virtuous circle because.

[F]

Obviously. Hang.

[A]

On. Once. I know you got to bounce, but I just gotta keep you for two minutes on the other side because I want to put this in perspective because we talked about that and in.

[F]

Fact at Amfest, I said I gotta go solve your beef cartel.

[A]

Problem. Fine, go. Go. Until tomorrow. Maybe tonight.

[G]

We'Ll. The war.

[A]

Room. Merry.

[F]

Christmas. Bannon is the gift to this country because he's the only guy who tells you what it's like and what's going on and who sees downrange. So bless you, Mr.

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Bannon.

[F]

Wow. If you'd gone to a tougher prison, you'd be as tough as I am. But we'll talk about that.

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Later.

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Go. Merry.

[A]

Christmas. Go to work. Get the beef.

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Right. Yeah.

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Yeah. Merry Christmas, bro. Brother. Dr. Peter Navar. Back in a.

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Moment. Here's your host, stephen k.

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Bam. Okay, Doctor had to bounce. They're working on this Brazilian beef thing. And I do want to thank Peter and the team with president that gave in the Navy feeling. All of them. That announcement yesterday was just magnificent. We had, if you haven't seen it, our coverage last night with Jim Fennell and Admiral Masso. I thought spectacular. Go through the complexities of the shipbuilding program. How monumental. This is another driving effort of President Trump at Amfest. What I said was we're going to have the hardest year possible coming in front of us political warfare. And the reason for that is the economy is going to turn. You can already see it. This is why we've been so. It's the war room sitting there going, hey, it's the capital expenditures and the depreciation and the write offs of the big beautiful bill. We made a bet folks. And Navarro and Greers and Bessant working on these tariffs to drive as a forcing function, drive capital expenditure back here. That's going to happen in the first quarter to next year. And now Axios and others picked up. Hey, hey. Omega is like looking through rose tinted glasses for. For 26, but you can see it already. And Navarro nailed it. This is like a replay of the first term where you had the 27 and 28 and you had this kind of these green sprouts. You see what President Trump was doing with his economic program there that led to the blowout year of 2019, particularly the second half of 2019 when everything was at low interest rates, no inflation, you know, blue collar jobs ahead of wages increase. Had a white collar non college graduates over college graduates, everything until the Chinese Communist Party Dropped a bioweapon on us. But I will talk about that in another time. You're seeing it here now. And part of what you're seeing already is the animal spirits because the big beautiful bill had not kicked in the third quarter. But you could see the entrepreneurs, you could see even the tech bros. You could see corporate America and people getting ready to get ready to pull the trigger on those plants right away and start building and the animal spirits of entrepreneurs. And this was a blowout number today. I mean, look at Morning Joe just sitting there with Andrew Ross Sorka and go, hang on a second, hang on a second, hang on. It's all, it's all the wealthy just doing this, which is a lie. My point, as the economy gets better, you take out the number one tool they think they're going to club us with. They're going to be like a wounded animal. This is going to be so dangerous. You watch. They're dangerous people. They have a dangerous ideology. They think political violence works. You have to ask yourself the question, does it? Right? Are you holding back? Are you not going to things or are people not going out to these events because they're worried about it? That means it's working. The Democrats are going to get more and more dangerous as the economy improves and the economy is improving. And you're seeing now the animal spirits. Mike Davis, the viceroy joins us. So viceroy, in order, I've teed you all up for this. Okay. I started with Solomon. In the breaking news on Brennan, which you've been telling us from day one, there's a grand jury, it's going to be in Fort Pierce. It's run by a guy I know very well that's a pros pro and he's got a pros team around him. Be patient. This is happening. It's professional, but it's going to really start happening in the first January, February of next year. Now we got some news that there may be, you know, his lawyers, Brennan's lawyers are worried enough that they're already starting to screen process and change a venue and all that. Can you get us up to speed on your thoughts of the grand conspiracy case that looks like it's going on right now.

[D]

Sir. Yeah. So Ken Weinstein was the George W. Bush head of the National Security Division. I know him and he is representing Brennan in this case. And he fired off a letter name checking me saying that, that I'm leaking grand jury information. I would say to Ken Weinstein that that is categorically false. It's defamatory. And it's desperate. And I actually thought that Ken was a better lawyer than this, but apparently not. And he's obviously picked sides here. He's going to represent the lawfare Democrats when they politicized and weaponized our intel agencies and law enforcement to go after Trump, his top aides, his allies. I'm surprised that Mayor Brown, the law firm wants to be involved in this mess. So maybe someone like Boris Epstein can take a look at Mayor Brown on.

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This. And good news, that looks like things are moving. And there, as I asked John, I said you very rarely, sometimes you have meetings and maybe prosecutors go and see what's going on. You very rarely drop a letter like this. It's pretty extraordinary. So that shows you that Brennan, who's one of the heads of the conspiracy is, is not in a good place. The second thing we had was Tina Peters. They're going to go file today a motion in court about the pardon, et cetera. But it's about the machines. You've got talk to me about this CFIUS Dominion. What are you working on? What do you got for.

[D]

This? Yeah, the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, or cfius, is an interagency government body chaired by the Treasury Secretary that looks at transactions, whether they're financial transactions or real estate transactions, to look at them from a national security perspective. And we had back in 2005, Smartmatic announced a combination or acquisition of Sequoia. And then back in 2006 and 2007, Congress on a bipartisan basis basis raised national security concerns. And so CFIUS reviewed the deal. The parties withdrew from review and smartmatic divest its Sequoia. What we want right now is for the Trump administration to declassify and make possible public this cfius review of Smartmatic and Sequoia back in 2005, 2006, 2007. Time has long passed, so they can't claim sources and methods, but we want to know what was Congress concerned about with these voting machines from a national security perspective, that they, that Congress on a bipartisan basis, ask for a CFIUS review. So if there were national security concerns about our election machines, critical infrastructure, I think the public has a right to know. Does. Do we have foreign governments like Venezuela, for example, tampering with these voting machines? And that's something that we need to find.

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Out. Is that when you say we're going to do it, the Warren posse will be up and go over Article 3. Do we need to direct that to Secretary Bessant or is that something more? That's Kristi Noem's area or would it be Secretary Noem or it would be over to Tulsi Gabbard. I mean where should we direct our.

[D]

Fire? I would, I need to get back to you on that, Steve. I would think that Secretary Bessant has declassification authority on this as the Treasury Secretary. If not, then it's maybe it's something that could come from an executive order from the.

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President. We will hold off until you get back to us and then we'll get everybody to go to Article 3, et cetera. Last but not least and I'm gonna have Joe Allen on a little later because I know you've been working on this nonstop. Mediaite has an article and I think if I haven't put it up, I'm gonna put it up in a while that talks about Fabrizio, the President's pollster doing polling, looking to 2026 and he comes up with this idea that the single biggest issue could be next to the economy. The next biggest issue and kind of overwhelms even the economy about how it's lopsided is wait for it, artificial intelligence. And particularly American citizens. MAGA Republicans, conservatives, independents, Democrats, moderate Democrats, kind of what we call the American people are sitting there going hey, I don't really understand this thing but I don't see where we have controls over like for our children and a whole host of things and the spread's like huge. It's like eight points or 10 points. But he's, he's putting it in a way that like we're fighting for all these states to get in woke and the Tech bros are the going to be the heroes because they're looking for federal regulations. Nothing can be farther from the truth. The Tech bros wanted no regulations at all. They, they twice tried to slide in amnesty and got crushed and they face planted. Now they're begrudgingly going to work with people. Put it in, I just want you to put it in perspective. We now know from pollsters and I'm hearing other pollsters coming in saying this is a massive issue with the American people and they don't want overregulation but they're not prepared to let the Tech Bros just run wild. Can you talk to us, talk to me briefly about where we stand in all this process and trying to work and make sure we get at least some regulatory apparatus at least around the four C's and I would love to see more but around the four Cs.

[D]

Sir. Yeah, I think President Trump should thank us he should thank the article three projects and the war Room Posse from saving him, for saving him from making a very bad decision by following the Tech Bros advice and doing AI amnesty and the big beautiful bill that you know, we, we crushed it 99 to 1 including the lead sponsor Ted Cruz voting against his own bill at 4:00 in the morning. And then they tried to do it again this AI amnesty in the National Defense Authorization act or the ndaa and we stopped that. We got the tech bro. We forced the Tech Bros to the table and forced them to embrace the four Cs. If you're going to get federal preemption, you're not going to have amnesty. So you're going to make sure we protect children, conservatives, creators and communities and that has President Trump included the four Cs in his executive order. And again he should be thankful because if they would have jammed through this AI amnesty in the big beautiful bill or the NDAA and we would have seen for example states can't regulate teddy bears that speak sexually explicitly to children through AI pedo bears. If states can't regulate that, if states can't regulate water bills and energy bills going through the roof on everyday Americans, real Americans in real America to subsidize these AI, you know, energy facilities, there would be, there would be big problems for President Trump and Republicans in this next.

[A]

Election. Well first off descent of these guys were going to do it anyway and they put up some pretty sensible things. So you had some people are thinking this through unlike Ted Cruz thinking about this. But the President would have been jammed. This is what we kept saying. This is so one sided where the American people are and the American people don't know all the details but they don't like what they see so far. So he would have been jammed up by the Tech Bros particularly people that gave him such bad guidance. President Trump doesn't lose on Capitol Hill when he puts his muscle onto something. It happens the Tech Bros twice. Once in the big beautiful bill which was must pass for the Trump administration and then on the NDAA which is must pass for Capitol Hill twice the same exact thing. That was the arrogance of it. Total face pain. In fact they didn't even get it to a vote. The second time the Armed Services Committee in the House and the Senate go nah, we're pulling it out of here. We tried to hide it, we're pulling out that it's lost momentum. I think their term was if that had gone through the President have been jammed up and Fabrizio tells you this now he's trying to change the narrative but it would have been jammed up. This thing could be worked out. And so Mike, to go to article three, two big things. You've got everything that's going on now with Brennan and the conspiracy to of weaponization against President Trump. Plus you got this huge thing on tech. Where do people go to get you? Where do they go to article three? What should they look.

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For? Yeah, article three project.org article number three project.org you can donate but only what you can afford. Follow us on social media and take action. That's the War Room Posse's superpower action. Action, action. And Merry Christmas and happy holidays to the War Room Posse, the most fierce political movement in.

[A]

America. Mike Davis, merry Christmas to you and thank you. We'll wait for you to get back to us on is it Besant Nome or, or Tulsi Gabbard or anybody? And we will then mand the rampart, sir, send it back over to Article 3. So thank.

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You. Thank.

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You. Mike Davis. The Viceroy. Merry Christmas. Markets on turbulent on fire today in markets like this when stocks and everything are all on fire, bonds on fire, why is gold now reaching an all time high at 4,500 bucks around there? Why is silver reaching all time highs like 69, 70 bucks? Don't ask me. You want to go to Birch Gold, Ask the experts. Now we've got tons of free material over at Birch Gold. The end of the dollar empire. And there's huge stories out there today about the decline and the dollar being under pressure. I'll put some of those up this afternoon, talk about it tonight. But the end of the dollar empire. Go to birchgold.com promo code Bannon. You get all the access to information there about what's going on and get access to Philip Patrick and his team at Birch Gold. Short.

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Commercial. Here's your host, Stephen K.

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Ban. You know we've been getting amazing feedback for the all family pharmacy and the reason is people want different aspects of how they get medical freedom. You know, you got big pharma out there, but you also got this distribution system and that kind of locks you in all family pharmacies. Got a way to break that and do it with people that can give you prescriptions, doctors, physicians and licensed personnel. Michael Kunstler, the CEO founder joins us. Just walk through, take a couple minutes of why you came up with this idea because I can tell you the Warren posse that have gone over and tried it over at AllFamilyPharmacy.com promo code Bannon. People seem to love it. So tell us how you came up with it and why do you say it's the centerpiece for your medical.

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Freedom? Yeah. So back in 2020, 2021, when. That's when really big pharma and a lot of the medical industry started limiting options for patients, pushing them other routes. We came up with this idea just by listening to the American people, those who were calling our pharmacy for help. And it was all around the United States. It wasn't just certain states, it was everywhere. So we actually came up with this idea due to the demand that was coming in from our patients. Requesting an antibiotic, requesting Tamiflu, requesting ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, having the ability to try something off label or repurposed drug that's cheap, that could possibly help them during flu season, during COVID the delta error, you know, omicron, all of those different strands that they told us about. So we came up with this idea then, and we've been running with it since. And we think medical freedom is very important and nowadays industry, because, you know, people can't just go to their doctor and say, hey, can I get an antibiotic? Or can I get Tamiflu or something for flu season coming up, the doctor's gonna say, no, go to the pharmacy and get a vaccine. It's exactly what they say to all of their patients. And it's kind of unfortunate that that happens that.

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Way. Talk to me about how do people get access and just get in and learn how to use it. One of the things we do is make access to people like yourself, the head of these organizations. Make sure they have websites that explain it. The Warren Posse, they're incredibly loyal, but they want to see the receipts. So tell me, walk me through the process from you're hearing this right now, to how do you go and actually get into the system? Talk to one of these licensed professionals and kind of get on with.

[G]

It. Yeah. So first off, we go to allfamilypharmacy.com Bannon. We do have a promo code, which we just talked about. We're going to run 20% off until the end of the year. So it'll be Bannon 20 to save you 20% off your entire quarter. Yeah. You scroll down, choose the medications you want to request from a medical provider. One of our licensed physicians who's licensed in the state that you reside in, will review that profile. They'll contact you as needed. If you'd like to schedule an appointment, we could Always take that by email or phone call. You could always get on the phone and call us if you need assistance. A lot of people, they don't know what they need. Some of them need a little bit of extra education. They might need a little bit of help and picking out a few items that may be best for themselves as well as their family come flu season because now we're in the thick of it. It's December, it's really cold, the germs are everywhere, the viruses are everywhere. It's time to stock up and be prepared. Shipments will get delayed as, as Christmas rolls around. We're just finishing up Hanukkah and then we're going to go into the cold months of January and February where the snowstorms just absolutely destroy FedEx and UPS and all the centers in Memphis, Tennessee and throughout the Midwest. So it's a great time now to bulk up, get prepared for the cold and flu season. If you go to the website, place an order online, or call us over the phone, we'll help you place it over the phone and direct you in the best way possible so that you're not spending too much money, but that you have the right essential medications for the flu.

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Season and whether you've also cut out all the big overhead, et cetera, so you can pass that on to the consumer. I just want one more time. If people don't actually are not certain what they need, maybe they don't know about ivermectin or hydroxychlorqualine or anything else. You have people that will walk them through it.

[G]

Correct? Yes. We'll teach you what the dosages are, we'll teach you how to take it. We have pharmacists will help you and guide you in the right direction. We have physicians who will prescribe appropriately based on medical necessity, based on what your need is. Again, a lot of people come to us for off label use and we love to help them. The government tries to stop us from doing it, so it's hard for us to go too in depth on it. But you know, we do have medical providers who will have that conversation with you, who will guide you in the right direction. Because I think that's most important is having somebody with a medical license, like whether it's a doctor or a pharmacist, guide you in the right direction. We don't want somebody on social media telling you what to take and what not to take. That's not somebody who is licensed, that's not somebody who you should be following. You should be following somebody with a medical license who has a freedom mindset, somebody who thinks like we think, who want you to try something that's going to help you and not hurt.

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Today.

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Correct. In fact, holiday.

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Period. Yeah. Help people save some money. Getting cold. I was just at the airport. There's thousands and thousands of people there. Traveling lines are crazy. People are sick. I hear them coughing all over each other, sneezing all over each other. It's, it's unfortunate, but that's, that's what we live in. So it's time to stock.

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Up. Michael, thanks for setting this up. I know people have tried it. Love it. All family pharmacy.com promo code Bannon 20. You get a 20% discount, sir. Merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, Happy holidays, all of it. Thank you so much for doing this. Appreciate.

[G]

You. Merry Christmas. Happy holidays to everyone. Thank.

[A]

You. Thank you, brother. Go check it out. Go talk to their physicians today. They're licensed professionals. We're absolutely packed in the second hour. Glenn Story is going to join us in a moment. Glenn Story, in fact, is Glenn Story up? Glenn, we got about a minute on this side before I'm gonna hold you through the break. You were hanging out. I didn't get much time to normally during Amfest, you know, Glen Story and I get a chance to hang out and, you know, get up to speed. He comes over. He did a little bit of the show. But all your time you were hanging out with Jason Aldean. I felt like I kind of got big leagued. Is that true to that rumor? I don't know what you're talking about.

[D]

Steve. You never got big.

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League. Glenn Story from Patriot Mobile, one of the great sponsors of the conservative movement, is going to join us at the top of the hour. Also Rosemary Jinx, who got tons of information and issues with not simply illegal immigration, but legal immigration or get back into the economics of it. Packed in the second hour, Glenn Story is going to start it off right. Stuff's going to going to take you out. Make sure if you want to find out why gold's at all time highs, silver's at all time highs. And in the pressure from the central banks is to drive it even higher. It looks like what's happening to the dollar, what's happening in central banks? Just go to take your phone out. It's simple. This one's easy. Bannon, just text Bannon. B A n n o n that would be me. At 989-898- you get the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals. Don't forget silver. Maybe you don't even forget platinum, but definitely don't forget silver in the age of Trump. So go check it out today. Short break. Back with the second hour of the morning edition of the War Room.