Stephen K. Bannon (6:20)

Yeah, no, I think this is the seventh, seventh year in a row. I think we've done this, the kickoff of the new year and they've had some we had a couple, I think, very serious talks. I was very serious on a couple of these about what was to come before us. But everybody in the Warren posse accomplished their task and it's the reason that we're moving, that everything's moving forward. Talk to me about your personally. People want to know more about Dave Brad New Year's resolutions. How do you, in fact, when the year ends, how do you take stock and how do you think about the coming year? And do you do a spiritual inventory of where you've been and where you're going, or you do one just from the practical my to do list and what I want to accomplish. How does Dave Brad go about this? Inquiring minds want to know.

Dave Brat (7:11)

Yeah, no, I just kind of. I try to pray all day. You know, you're supposed to pray without ceasing. And, you know, I start off, I listen to the Bible on the way into school. I recommend everybody should get a Bible app. I was listening to. I listened to Job. I learned something new about Job. I got a smart friend up here that taught me something about Job and then went straight into Psalms. And if you've never just listened to the psalms, I mean, you just can't beat it. I don't think we do a good enough job worshiping God, right? We're always asking God for stuff and asking God to save the country and our schools and the kids and all that, but I don't think we do enough. So that's kind of one thing I'm trying to push myself. How do I, you know, praise God and give that. That's why we're on Earth according to the Protestant Catechism and the Catholic Baltimore. What's the chief end of man? It's the chief question. What's the why are we on the planet? And it's to praise and glorify God. And so, you know, you just want to do that constantly. And then, you know, you want to kind of ingrain it. So it's not just a Sunday faith you want. What am I doing on this earth that matters in the War Room policy. I really don't need to preach to the choir there. But, you know, the one thing everyone here can do is spread this platform to your friends because as you've seen over the past week on the War Room, we have major challenges all over the globe and more importantly, internally. And so, you know, just think, how has God put you? What gifts has God given you where you can make your difference and then encourage others? Because we need everyone on board right that's what the church is. All different parts of the body working together.

Stephen K. Bannon (8:54)

You say, pray without ceasing. Is your concept or what you're taught in your. In the Presbyterian Church or your, Your sect or part of the Presbyterian Church that is that you're worshiping God throughout the day, or is your work and your effort to move forward his plan as it's manifesting through you? Is that, is that your work and is that good enough?

Dave Brat (9:22)

Yeah, nothing's good enough. Even Jesus said, why do you call me good? Only the Father in heaven is good. So, boy, there's a statement that puts us all in our place. But, yeah, no, it just means to have your soul geared, right? Your consciousness, your soul, your heart all aligned toward God all day. Now, of course, no one does that, right? It's all about me. It's the me generation. Me, me, me. And so everyone, of course, thinks about their own personal advancement, how you can make yourself look good and how to wear your tartan vest on TV and these kind of superficial things that don't matter. But yeah, I mean, if I, If I look back at my life, you know, Kierkegaard, I think, said you could see your, your life in the past. You know, you look, we're looking forward in the new year, but you can see the meaning of your life looking in the rear view mirror, right? So you look back and I, I was blessed with a great family, mom and dad and the faith, good churches going there. Went to Hope College in Holland, Michigan, with a bunch of Dutch Reformed theologian types. Really good academic background. Then worked in business a little bit, Arthur Anderson. But then I felt the call to seminary, and then I went and did my PhD in economics. But all of that was linked toward the calling, right? Toward what can I do? I worked at the World bank while I was doing my PhD to help the poorest of the poor. And so, you know, you just gotta. What does God want you to. You gotta. No one else can answer that for you, right? When I talk to kids go to the career center here at Liberty, you have to know what God, what, you know, I don't hear anything. I don't hear anything direct. In my tradition, there's no, I don't hear the direct voice of God. You've got to tease that out, right? Work it out in fear and trembling, I think, also as either Kierkegaard or Dostoevsky said. But that that's. It's just a daily pattern of just trying to be there with God. God's always there. We know that. But you got to put yourself into that, into that faith stance every day.

Ben Harnwell (11:24)

The.

Stephen K. Bannon (11:24)

Your Dutch reform. I think you've told me that before. You know, there was a movie. I don't know if you ever. You ever see George C. Scott? In George C. Scott, there's a movie about the Dutch reform up in Michigan, the movie Hardcore. Did you ever see George C. Scott made this?

Dave Brat (11:38)

Now that you say it, yeah.

Stephen K. Bannon (11:41)

Yeah, it was.

Ben Harnwell (11:42)

It was.

Stephen K. Bannon (11:43)

They positioned the Dutch Reformed as quite a dour people. It was the whole thing. The kid running away, the young daughter running away to California and bad times befell her. I don't want to give away the plot, but it starts with the Dutch Reformed up in Michigan as being a particularly dour group. I don't think the brats are dour people though.

Ben Harnwell (12:04)

Right.

Stephen K. Bannon (12:05)

You come at things with a very life affirming. Dave. Brat's got a twinkle in his eye, as they say. Talk to me about how is your. I tell you what, what we're going to do is we've got beautiful music. One of the reasons I love doing these specials. Over the Christmas season, our team here goes out of the way to make sure that we get fantastic, fantastic music that takes us in and out from different sources. I think we have a different version. We're going to play different versions of Auld Lang Syne, which happens to be one of my. One of my favorite songs. So we're going to have a different version from one of the choral societies in the 50s. Let's go. Head out. We're going to be back. You got Ben Harnwell and Stephen K. Bannon here and Dave, Brad.

Chorus/Singers (13:14)

We'll take a cup of kindness yet.

Chorus/Singers (13:21)

All.

Chorus/Singers (13:24)

Thy son we together. We'll take a cup of kindness yet for all thine sign and here's a hand my trusty friend and here's a hand of thine.

Ben Harnwell (14:41)

Will take.

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Chorus/Singers (16:56)

And never brought to mind. You know the world and forget the days of old man's life. You go the quaint is important that I never brought too much. Sam.

Ben Harnwell (19:59)

Sa.

Chorus/Singers (20:31)

Sam I think we've done this the.

Stephen K. Bannon (21:00)

Last couple of years. That's one of my favorite segments of the Worm. So right there you saw that's a Japanese vocal star, recording star that was inspired to do that and somebody was inspired to lay that on top of a really a, not a trailer but a two or three minute compilation of scenes from Waterloo Bridge. Why is this important? Well, if you, if you. They don't make them like they used to three years in a row. That's Vivian Leigh, the star. Vivien Leigh made Gone with the Wind with Clark Gable. As everybody knows, she played Scarlett Hare. She then made a war film as England was getting ready to go to war is already, I guess in the war after 1939 called Waterloo Bridge. She plays a tragic lover of Robert Taylor and a magnificent film. But after Gone with the Wind this film was shot in black and white. But it is a, it's a love story, a very powerful discussion about war in Waterloo Bridge. Then she made I think one of my all time favorites, that Hamilton woman. But the tragic nature of the, of the affair of Lady Emma Hamilton and of course my hero growing up as a kid, Lord Horatio Nelson, played by Sir Laurence Olivier, who was her husband at the time. She shot that in a row. And of course this film is a very controversial film because later it was there was almost going to have an investigation about it, about how Churchill and MI6 had used, as I say, propaganda tool to actually get the United States on the site of England in World War II. But if you ever get a chance to see all three of them, you'll see Vivian Leigh at her height of her power in the late 1930s, early 1940s as a magnificent. I mean, no comparison to Vivian Leigh at the top of her game. Gone with the win with Clark Gable. Waterloo Bridge with Robert Taylor. Robert Taylor maybe not as well known today, but was a huge star back in the back in the late 30s, 40s and 50s. And of course that Hamilton woman with Sir Laurence Olivier. And so if you got any time of a holiday weekend, the last two shot in black and white, remember that's after the Magnificent. What Technicolor shooting that took so long for Going with the Wind. Everything's in this a magnificent color even today. So much more vibrant than most films as you see it made in 19, in 1939. Actually probably made in 1938 and 39. Dave Brett. And Dave Brett. We have pulled from the files and we'll play later. A A film is about to about to know about the touch. It's George C. Scott in one of the. I think George C. Scott's best. I think it's his best role. He had post. Post Patton was the movie hardcore about the. About Calvinist Dutch reform up in Michigan. And it's fantastic. Brad, are you much of a note? We got hard Rose. Yeah, go ahead.

Dave Brat (23:59)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. On that note. The dower. On the dower note. Of course, my dad was raised in a dour household coming out of the Great Depression, so you know that there's a little bit of that going on as well historically. But Morley Safer did a thing a while back, it seems like yesterday was 2008. He wanted to take in depth look at the happiest people on earth, which were the Danish. And they after you know, regressing on all the normal variables, you know, like income and all these kind of things. And they showed the people on the subway, the Danes on the subway, they look pretty dour. They're all looking at their feet. They're not smiling. They're not, you know, young social designers like we got today. And they said what's the, what's the main reason why the Danes are the happiest people on the earth in international comparisons for years. And the answer is because they have the lowest expectations. And so there's your, you know, I, I don't push that on everybody, but it's kind of a humorous.

Ben Harnwell (24:56)

Right.

Dave Brat (24:57)

They're happy because they exceed their expectations. Right. So that's a, that's a clever little way to think about happiness.

Ben Harnwell (25:08)

Brad.

Stephen K. Bannon (25:08)

You've always got a bounce in your step, though. And I always tease you about the cause. The Presbyterians, if you're from the south, the American South. You know that Stonewall Jackson and so many of our great generals in the Confederate army during the Civil War were Presbyterian. They kind of came from that Hardy stock. And I always give you a hard time that you've got that upbeat personality. George C. Scott in the movie has got the Stonewall Jackson personality.

Ben Harnwell (25:36)

Right.

Stephen K. Bannon (25:37)

He's not giving you, he's not giving you, he's not giving you a warm fuzzy at any time.

Dave Brat (25:42)

Yeah, I, I admire.

Stephen K. Bannon (25:44)

Go ahead, go ahead.

Dave Brat (25:46)

No, I admire those types. Those are the ones you look at the historical clips. You just showed that, that clip you show and I'm surprised it's now outlawed. It's got a handsome man and a beautiful woman in it. And I mean that. That stunning. Compare that to modern social media. And I wish we could go back to the great films. There's one good guys film this year, F1 came out and it was like a Rocky film. I went to the gym the next morning and wanted to do push ups and everything and they're just missing and.

Ben Harnwell (26:15)

So.

Stephen K. Bannon (26:18)

Got brat motivated by the way, on Waterloo Bridge. Let me give you a heads up when you see this film. This film is a very hard film. I mean the, the film. Look, Gone with the Winds. I think a tough film. Waterloo Bridge, a very tough film. And that Hamilton woman is an extremely tough film. They didn't pull any punches on this. And the. In Waterloo Bridge when you watch, it's about Vivian Leigh as a ballerina in London. But what happens during her journey with this war hero played by Robert Taylor. I think he's a colonel. Is totally unexpected. You will not anticipate the middle of the film and the end of the film with the beginning. Because back then I think they realized that adults can handle adult topics and you don't have to do it in a sleazy or perverted way. But Vivian Leigh, just absolutely incredible. Anyway, let's hang. I got my favorite segment of the year and we do it right at the top of the show. Ben Harnwell, he's a little under the weather. We're gonna find out. Is that from a New Year's Eve party or is he just under the weather? And Dave Bratz with us. We're gonna leave you with the pipes. My favorite song. It's New Year's Day. It's one January in the year of our Lord 2026. We're gonna take a short break, be back in the warm in just a.

Chorus/Singers (27:30)

Mom. Sam. Should all acquaintance be forgot and days of falling song should all acquaintance be forgot and days of all and sun for. All and song will take a come O kindness yet and days of falling inside.

Stephen K. Bannon (29:33)

Welcome back. We're going to play that in its entirety. That's a recording star Sissel. I think it is Norwegian stunning voice. Ben Harnwell joins us. Got Dave, Brett here to kick off the new Year. We're maybe not at the intensity level that we are in the morning war room. And the reason is you're kicking off the year. We're going to get into this thing. We're going to work our way into this thing. Ben, you're a little under the weather. Is it because the audience already is asking, the Warren posse is asking is because did you have a late night or all nighter in Rome? I realize you guys have these big sophisticated swank parties that you're, you know, black tie, elegant women around, very aristocratic. Is that what you were doing all night? And you're just joining us here this morning.

Ben Harnwell (30:24)

First thing to do is to Steve, to you and Dave Bratt, wish you a very happy new year or one. And as we say here in Italy, I like the idea that when you think of Ben Harnwell and the International Bureau, you think of black tie, even white tie soirees. Actually, I am a bit under the weather. I don't think it's over indulgence from last night. If you want, if you want to have the heroic points attributed in my column. I think it was the, the, a week ago from Christmas Eve when you had me out in St. Peter's Piazza in the cold.

Stephen K. Bannon (31:04)

Hold it. Hang on.

Ben Harnwell (31:04)

The driving wind.

Stephen K. Bannon (31:06)

Listen, I, is that, is that, is that because that was that Christmas Eve show. It's one of the best shows I think we've ever done. And I want to thank you and I want to thank Jason Jones and everybody at the Church of the Nativity. The pastor that runs it cutting between Manger Square and St. Peter's Square, I thought was fantastic. Now we didn't have the traditional crowds and all the energy coming out of St. Peter Square because it was a cold driving rain that had been a cold driving rain all day. And I should tell you, the international bureau, when Ben goes and sets up, he doesn't take Jason Jones had a, had an appropriate crew because Jason's making a documentary film over there. He had lighting, he had his sound guy there. He had cameramen, he had some, you know, warm hot coffee off to the side. You didn't have any of that, did you, Ben? You're, you're, you Run on a. The War Room International Bureau runs on a sparser budget.

Ben Harnwell (32:01)

That's one way of putting it. No, but I do have a loot. I do have illumination, actually. I like to think of myself as being quite well, well lit for our external broadcast segments, but it was a solitary experience. I. Let's put like that in St. Peter's Square on Christmas Eve. Let's just say, Steve, I, I took one for the team in order to bring that one for the War Room posse, you know, so I'm, I'm a bit, I'm a bit under the weather, that's all. Fighting. Have you been? Have you been.

Stephen K. Bannon (32:32)

Have you been? Have you been sick? But I just want to be. I just want to note that I'm always pushing for a higher budget for the International Bureau. It's Grace Chong who also, besides being queen of the trolls, also doubles as our chief financial officer, chief operating officer. Whatever Mo doesn't do, she does. And so she's always one. Talk to me about paring back the extravagance of the, of the Rome, of the Rome Bureau. So I am fighting for you, Ben, all the time. I'm fighting for you all the time, Ben. Did you really get the cold because of the.

Ben Harnwell (33:06)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was pretty. It was nice and nice to know that in internal, in the internal accountancy review sessions, I have one person fighting for me in my corner. Sort of cheery news, but.

Stephen K. Bannon (33:21)

But you should know. No, I never, I never. Grace always wins. Let's say that Grace is always the final. She gets the final say. So on all things resource wise, go back there for a second because we are kicking off the year and talking about really personal motivation, team motivation, kind of what to look forward to. But really these are more. We deal with the daily material of what's happening throughout the world and the use of agency, which we always talk about. I want to go back because that was a show, we kind of conceived it. Didn't know if we could pull it off. Just thank God Jason happened to be over there in the Church of the Nativity, really helped out because we had the pastor there. But I think those shows did. I think that show did juxtapose particularly what's going on in that vital part of the world. We got some real insights into really the plight of Christianity in the ancient home of Christianity, not simply Israel and Judea Samaria, but also in the desert church. I haven't had a chance to catch up with you because you've been on the go and your 6 o' clock shows you've been doing have just been extraordinary. I've gotten so many compliments from people of all the great work that you're doing, both on the international side on the Friday show and then on the traditional, Catholic, traditional Christian side on the Wednesday show. But what were your thoughts about it being there at the Vatican and seeing the reporting live from the Church in the Nativity?

Ben Harnwell (34:54)

It was a special moment for me personally to be able to be there and feel that connection and as you say, with the parish priest, the actual parish priest of the Church of the Nativity in that live, in that broadcast. That was special. You know, this seeing as we're gonna just pick up on, on the themes of that Christmas Eve show, that gives me an opportunity to mention something I didn't actually get to, to mention on the show itself. But it was pretty important and for time reasons I would have done it. And that's the fact that Pope Leo, who I like to think we have an objective view about, we're not fanboys. I like to think we were capable of objective criticism. When he went to Lebanon a month or so ago on his first visit to the Middle east, he actually highlighted Lebanon as a country. It was a model country for, of tolerance between Muslims and Christians for us to imitate here in the West. And Steve, that's, that's such an outrageous thing. I think for someone who is acclaimed to be the successor of St. Peter to say, because one has an immediate conclusion, either this guy is a well meaning buffoon or he's a cipher, something worse. The story of Lebanon is absolutely horrific from a Christian perspective. If you go back 100 years, I think in the early 1920s was the last official census in the Lebanon, Steve. It was 53% Christian, 47% Muslim. Now they haven't had any official censuses since then, but the most recent informal one that they did, I think looking at the educational roles, put the Christian proportion from an overall majority down to 15%, 15% Christian, 85% Muslim. If Pope Leo thinks that we in the, in the west, in Christendom are going to tolerate that dynamic and to do it supinely and passively and just accept that dictat from him, he has no idea of the fighting spirit which is moving right across Europe and especially the United States, especially with young guys in their 20s who are showing, if you're looking at social media, are showing absolute heroic witness to the Christian faith. That is, I say one of the tributaries to this phenomenon is the martyrdom, the public martyrdom of Charlie, Kurt, and the revival that we said on the show was going to take place due to the Holy Spirit following that appalling event. But there is something taking place. And at that very moment, the Pope comes out and says we in the west need to imitate the Christian Islamic dynamic of Lebanon. I would say this to the Pope, Holy Father, you could not be more wrong. And we're not going to accept. And that's why I think you mentioned the shows that we do on Wednesday. That's why I think that the War Room has such an important role to play in this revival of Christianity, which is a spiritual revival first and foremost. And that will have riches. Right. Following right on from that, but obviously also including in the political cultural fears as well.

Stephen K. Bannon (38:26)

Do you see that? Do you see that happening? Are you getting a feeling that. I mean, I think we see it politically somewhat. I think we're seeing it spiritually, but you're on top of this more than I am in Europe. Do you honestly think that that's. Do you think that's happening?

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Stephen K. Bannon (38:41)

And this kind of kicks off our January 1st, you know, the substance of it. This is one of the biggest things that's before us today. If you take out, you know, artificial, not take out. If you look at artificial intelligence and everything it's doing in the race for the singularity to dehumanize us, to move past Homo sapiens and past man in the image and likeness of God. On top of that, you add this fight between Christendom and really atheism, this Marxist atheism and jihadist combination. Do you see the. I tell you what, let's listen to this music because it's a great way to kick off the year. Ben Harnwell's in Rome, Dave Bratz in the United States of America. We're here at one of our traveling War Room studios. We're going to take a short commercial break, let you listen to some great music. We're going to be back in a moment.

Chorus/Singers (39:52)

We together. Yet for all thine signs. And here's the hand, my trusty friend and he's a hand of thine.

Ben Harnwell (41:03)

Will take.

Chorus/Singers (41:06)

The.

Chorus/Singers (41:10)

For all night.

Chorus/Singers (42:31)

Should all acquaintance be forgotten.

Stephen K. Bannon (42:43)

To the War Room. So, Ben, question to you first. And then today, Brad, are you. Are you actually seeing this and feeling it? Because it would be one of the. Because I honestly think we need a moment like the Crusades to turn this thing around. You can see in Western Europe, I think you're seeing the fall of Christendom. I don't think there's any other way to look at it. And it's going to take some very determined individuals and they're out there. But are you actually seeing this as a movement? I mean, it's one of the reasons we're going to Texas on It's not just the 9th of January. I'll have other things to report. In fact, if we can in the next hour, I want to get it up. We're virtually sold out of tickets. But I want everybody in the area, a grapevine that can come should definitely come and we're going to have other things around it. I think I'm going to spend a couple of days down there because it's that important to us. What's happening here in this country and particularly you can see in Texas. Is Texas the first among equals? I don't know. I come from the Commonwealth of Virginia. We're very proud of our heritage. But what Virginia's deteriorated to is the data center capital of the world because of all the deep state that's up in Northern Virginia by Dulles Airport. That whole corridor down there is nothing but deep state companies and they've now trashed Northern Virginia and becoming the data. Not just the, it's the, it's the deep state that all, all the companies are there. But now you've got these data centers just kind of ruined the entire thing. So Texas is so vitally important to us. Are you seeing this in Europe, Ben? You can actually point to it and you can feel it.

Ben Harnwell (44:14)

Well, let me answer that this way, Steve. You mentioned earlier the Wednesday show that we do, which is a recap of what's going on in Christianity specifically focusing on, but not exclusively on, not exclusively at all on traditional Catholicism. So we have this show, we have Liz, your known obviously to the war room posse, the legendary Frank walker from Canon 212 and Jenny Holland. And Jenny Holland every week comes to us and recounts a development on exactly what you're talking about here, which is the revival, the Christian revival in the West. And she does this by picking a key story. It'll be the New York Times, the Washington Post. Right. So these aren't natural voices that are encouraging, let's put it like that, the revival of Christianity. And every single story is the same. There is something taking place in the 18 to 24 year old male block in terms of Christian church attendance, a pickup, an uptick. And it's not contradictory to what you're saying, which is the fact that we are losing the battle here in occupied Europe because there are two parallel movements and this is what we talk about on Wednesday, on our Wednesday evening show. Two parallel movements, movements taking place. One of them is the falling away of cultural affinity, churchgoing. That is to say, three or four generations of people who no longer have any sense of supernatural faith in Jesus Christ are simply ceasing to go to church anymore. Because, let's face it, why bother unless you actually do believe. On the other hand, what is taking place is you have in that young, especially male cohort a very strong sense of radicalization. Let's look at that word. If you give me 30 seconds, Steve. Radicalization, the true meaning of that word comes from Latin radix radicis. That means to the root. It means the root. Okay, so we're talking about radicalization. What we're talking about here in the Christian context are young guys who are going back to the roots of Christianity and they're living it with a coherence and a confidence that has not been seen in, in the west for at least 100 years. And that is going to bring. That is going to bring spiritual fruit. Jesus Christ never told us in order to win our battles, we need to be a numerical majority. In fact, he pointed, he indicated, would be the yeast that makes. Makes the bread rise. That's the thing. I can't underline enough quantitatively. Extremely tiny, right? But it. But if you live the faith with integrity, with joy, with peace, that will attract people, guaranteed a thousand percent. Because God made us to respond to the gospel, and he made us to respond to the gospel being lived with coherence and with credibility. And that's what's taking place. Now, Steve, you're going to ask me, is it going to be too little, too late, or will it swing the tide? And I don't know the answer to that question. All I know that. All I can say is that I think what the Holy Spirit wants us to do is to be the best witnesses to Jesus Christ that we can possibly be in whatever sphere the Holy Spirit has given to us to operate in.

Stephen K. Bannon (47:50)

Very powerful. Okay, in the next hour. We're coming up to the hour break. In the next hour. I got Brett and I've got Harnwell. We're going to talk about the. How they go through the end of the year and how they rejuvenate themselves for the beginning of the year and talk about everybody in the audience, your personal agency. When Ben talks right there about this rejuvenation among young men 18 to 24, it's about the youth use of agency of God working through you as divine providence does. And so we're going to talk about that as kind of the motivational kickoff. We've got a long, tough year ahead of us, but we've had a bunch of long, tough years ahead of us, and our accomplishments are unparalleled. Why? Because of your agency and your stick to ituness, your work. We're going to take a short commercial break. We're going to return to the Worm in just a moment.

Chorus/Singers (48:39)

Moment.

Chorus/Singers (49:04)

I of kindness yet for.

Chorus/Singers (50:23)

Jesus.