Donald Trump (4:26)

It is over. It's just a matter of time. And Donald Trump will have done something that saluted America since the 50s deal with a communist dictatorship 90 miles off the coast of Florida. I can't wait till the day comes. To our Cuban friends in Florida and throughout America, the liberation of your homeland is close.

Commentator/Analyst (4:50)

Nicolas Maduro walking haltingly, slowly, very deliberately, trying to trying to scan the crowd. We know now, based on sources telling Ms. Now, that he sustained some injuries during the operation that led to his being in domestic law enforcement's custody. The same is true, according to her lawyers of his wife, Celia Flores de Maduro, whose lawyers said that she sustained not only bruising on her forehead, which was visible to everybody in the courtroom, but that she may have also sustained a fracture to her ribs. Of course, both of them entering pleas of not guilty and as you noted, saying very firmly in Spanish that they are not guilty. But in many other respects this was far from ordinary. And obviously the least ordinary moment was that confrontation that you mentioned between a Venezuelan man who was there as a spectator and Nicolas Maduro, our producer, Ke Guerrero and I had an opportunity to interview Pedro Rojas. He is a Venezuelan national who is now applying for political asylum. He is a member of a political opposition party in Venezuela called Primero Justicia, or Justice first, and served four months in a Venezuelan prison for his political activities. He told us that it was incredibly important to him to come here today and confront Nicolas Maduro, to say to him, as you noted, you will pay. Because he felt that it was incredibly important, not just that Nicolas Maduro was held to account by the US justice system, but that someone from his own country, a country that, according to Pedro, he has victimized and burglarized, was able to look him in the eye and tell him, you are illegitimate. You are a burglar, you are a criminal. And of course, Maduro defiantly looking at him back and saying, soy nombres de Dios. I'm a man of God. Soy and cristianero de la guerra. I'm a prisoner of war. Before Pedro was ejected from the courtroom, incredibly powerful discussion with Pedro about what led him to come here today from Atlanta, where he operates a mechanics business, basically doing mechanics work on cars. Woke up at four in the morning and took a flight here for the specific purpose of having that historic confrontation with. With Maduro, the likes of which I've never seen in a courtroom. And just to illustrate for you and our viewers how out of the ordinary it is, I have attended a trial in this very courtroom. In fact, one of the E. Jean Carroll trials, where the president's advisor, Stephen Chung, was kicked out of the courtroom because his phone rang. Now, contrast that with somebody standing up in the middle of the courtroom and wanting to have words with a defendant. And it was silent in the courtroom, and people were watching as if it were a tennis match, you know, heads going back and forth and back and forth to see the interplay between Mr. Maduro and Mr. Rojas.

Donald Trump (7:42)

They've chosen not to live this way anymore. And unlike Obama, President Trump has not turned his back on the people of Iran. So I pray and hope that 2026 will be the year that we make Iran great again. Democratic vote, because they wouldn't vote for these things. Round two. What do I want? I want to go after welfare fraud. I want to rewrite the way the programs work. I want to make sure that every state, before they get a dollar for food stamps or any form of welfare, that they send biometrics to the federal government proving that the person exists and they're eligible for the services in question. I want to go after the fraud that's so rampant in Minnesota and throughout these blue states through reconciliation. And second, I want to do an affordability package making America more affordable to the hard working men and women of this country through reconciliation. Stay tuned. It is coming. You're going to hear for the first time today that it is my plan to convert. So I still have time. But my understanding is you're never too late. And on top of that, any skepticism I have about reality would certainly be instantly answered if I wake up in heaven. I do believe that the dominant Christian theory is that I would wake up in heaven if I have a good life. Yeah. I don't necessarily have to state something in advance. And so to my Christian friends, yes, it's coming. So you don't need to talk me into it. I am now convinced that the risk reward is completely smart. If it turns out that there's nothing there, I've lost nothing. But I've respected your wishes and I like doing that. If it turns out there is something there and the Christian model is the closest to it, I win. So with your permission, I promise you that I will convert.

Stephen K. Bannon (10:03)

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

Stephen K. Bannon (10:24)

And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

Stephen K. Bannon (10:28)

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.

Neil McCabe (10:41)

Country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

Stephen K. Bannon (10:54)

Monday, the 5th of January, year of our Lord 2026, actually I guess technically the real first workday back from the Christmas holiday of 2025 and New Year's holiday of 2026. Thank you very much for joining us in the late afternoon, early evening edition of the Worm. A lot to go through. All signal, no noise today at the end, right there was Scott Adams, the cartoonist, social commentator, you know, MAGA philosopher, I think you could say. Dave Bratt joins us. I've got Glenn story, Neil McCabe, Joe Allen, much more going on. We got a lot of people to get through, a lot of stories to talk about and analyze in the next two hours. First off, Scott, for those that don't know it. Dave. Brad Scott Adams. I guess it's terminal cancer. But his thinking, or people around him is that he only has a couple of weeks to live. Of course, he has been discussing and right there discussing his conversion to Christianity. Your thoughts, sir?

Religious Commentator (11:58)

Yeah, well, our prayers go out to him. We certainly pray God's grace goes before him with him. For the people listening, the Christian message isn't, if I lived a good life, I'm okay. It's kind of the opposite of that. He sounded a little too rational about it. I don't want to give him a hard time, but I just want to make sure we got it straight. Jesus said, why do you call me good? No one is good except your father in heaven. So the whole point and the crook on the cross next to Jesus made it most clear how you get to heaven. And we know the evidence because Jesus said, today you're going to be with me. And that crook on the cross said, I'm scum. I'm nothing to the other crook. And he said, this guy's the son of God. That's how you get into heaven. Your heart is up before God. God sees your heart and your heart is good in the eyes of God. We don't decide right. God knows the heart. But when you proclaim with your lips, hey, this is the Son of God and I don't deserve nothing that gets you into heaven.

Stephen K. Bannon (13:06)

You know, it's interesting in the New Testament that is probably the two most profound witnesses that the criminal on the cross at the very moment or close to the moment when Christ died professing his faith. And in the Roman centurion that didn't need, you don't need to come anywhere to say the word and he will be healed. And what did Christ say in all of all of Judea, he had not seen faith such as that. Pretty amazing. Okay, there's a lot going on. We've got a lot of logistics. There's things happening to March, January 6th. There's a briefing about to happen on Capitol Hill. A West Point grad, now a Democrat in Congress, I think his name's Dan Ryan, has accused Marco Rubio, the secretary of state, of perjury and lying to Congress already for, I guess, previous briefings he's given on Venezuela. Dave Brat's going to break that down for us. We've got a huge event in Texas this Friday. Glenn Story, Patriot Mobile. The best folks around is going to be here to talk about that. Neil McCabe is going to get us up to speed on all the moving pieces tomorrow. Content, press conferences, marches, pilgrimages, all of it in commemoration of January 6. President has been up on truth social telling you what he thinks about the stolen 2020 election. We'll get into that. Also, Joe Allen's back. And Joe Allen's got a lot to get us up to speed on the fight against out of control artificial intelligence. And there's a new vaccine schedule only 11 Bobby Kennedy announces Secretary of Health and human services. Just 11, I guess. Mandated. We're going to have the activists that made that happen all in the next two hours live in the war room. Short commercial break Back in a moment. If you could make one holiday wish, would you wish to be free from your credit card and other debt? Let's see if we can help you with that. If we could give yourself one gift this holiday season, would it be finally to get some relief from your credit card and other debt? I might have a solution. Here's why. Now's the time to make a move. This time of year, credit card and loan companies close out their books. They clean up past due accounts. They sell or write off the debt to clear their books. That means if you have credit card debt and unpaid bills, lenders may be more open to negotiating and settling your account before you're in. That means right now, and I mean right now, you may actually have leverage. And Done With Debt knows how to use this to your advantage. They monitor lender trends and understand the year end pressure on creditors. They used that timing to negotiate hard on your behalf. Now's the time to get out from under crushing debt and interest payments without bankruptcy or taking on new loans. Done With Debt goes to work for you. Month one with one clear goal, to reduce your total debt and leave you with more money every month. Get started now because your leverage may disappear at the end of the year. Chat with a Done with debt specialist@donewithdebt.com that's donewithdebt.com donewithdat.com do it today, Phil.

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Stephen K. Bannon (17:00)

Part of the movement. Okay. Welcome back, Scott. As the engine room informs me and Dave Bright did also during the break that Scott Adams was going to have assisted suicide, but waved off that. So our best wishes to Scott. I know it's horrible what he's going through and thought it was very moving, this discussion about conversion of Christianity. And Brad, you keep saying you're a Calvinist. You're a dour Dutch Reformed, are you not? You're the hardest. You're the most dour of the dour.

Religious Commentator (17:34)

Yes, I'm dou. And I'm happy to share my brain, my heart with Scott. We're all praying for you, brother. I'm just telling you the way Jesus said it. I just want everybody have full information so we get really good news in the end.

Stephen K. Bannon (17:49)

Good news. Maybe we can set that up. I'll reach out to him, see if we set that. I think it'd be great for you to talk to him.

Stephen K. Bannon (17:54)

Yeah.

Stephen K. Bannon (17:56)

The talk about Christians in a Christian company. Glenn Story and Jenny and the team over at Patriot Mobile. Glenn, there's a. There's a. There's something going on in Texas and we would rather do something on Friday than have this conference. But this conference, we have to have it and we have to have it now about what's going on in the state of Texas. And it's not about religious freedom at all. It's about something totally different. Talk to us about. And I think I understand now from all your team that were completely sold out. I'll still put the number up in case anybody wants to get on a waiting list. But it turns out that we're totally sold out. What are we trying to accomplish on Friday in Texas with our event that we're inviting Gert Wilders from Netherlands to come and address?

Glenn Story (18:41)

Well, yeah, you know, it's. It's really just boils down to we want to educate folks here in Texas. You know, we work a lot, we hunt, we do our things, but there's some things operating underground. You know, this Sharia law thing is going on with Muslims. And what's really interesting is, you know, we want others to know it's just happening under. It's an undercurrent. And, you know, there's no better day than today to learn about what's really going on. And, you know, we brought a bunch of different groups. America's Freedom alliance, the Denton County Republican Party, the real America's Voice, you name it. There's about 22 different groups that said, hey, we want to know about it. They've shared it with all of their constituency and it sold out. We've expanded the room three times and now we've maxed out. It's just incredible.

Stephen K. Bannon (19:38)

The 22 groups, what would bring 22 disparate groups together so quickly? Because this really over the holiday happened just a couple of days before Christmas. What is, what is the power of what's happening to bring 22 disparate groups together so quickly?

Glenn Story (19:55)

You know, it's pretty simple. Folks love their country, they love their creator and they want to. We all know that this country was founded on biblical principles, right. And that, that we're all fighting for our God given right and freedoms. And the real interesting piece is when you tell them this is what's really going on. People want to learn because they see what happened in New York City, they see what really what happened in Europe. I mean Europe has been basically invaded and taken over. And what we want to do is look, we believe in the freedom religion, but we do not believe in the institution of Sharia law in this country. You know, our, our, our, our founding documents really talk about this, really about how this was founded on the Christianity.

Stephen K. Bannon (20:48)

Talk to me about where do people go. I want to thank Patriot Mobile for putting, assisting us and putting this together. It's sold out. It's going to be absolutely packed. We got Gert Fielders coming in from the Netherlands. Gert for the last 20 years has really, up until about the last five or 10 years, been a voice in the wilderness warning against this, the Islamization of Europe. And you're seeing it whether it's in Paris, whether it's in London, whether it's in Brussels. Today, I think Austria announced that 40% of births in their country are coming from people that did not hold Austrian passports. They're being absolutely overwhelmed. We cannot and we will not allow this to happen in the United States of America. And certainly we're not going to allow it to happen in the great state of Texas. Texas is the jewel rule of the crown of the union and it can't happen. And that's what they've targeted. This is to be very specific. We understand exactly what they are doing. We understand exactly how they're going to do it. We understand their, their, their playbook. Governor Abbott was courageous enough to identify and call out the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE as terrorist organizations. And already he thinks, you know, that he's put something on the books. There's enough about Sharia law. I think folks out there Think there's not. There's a gap. And that's one of the reasons people were having a great call to action to make sure that this cannot happen in, in Texas because Texas is too precious to this union and too precious to the freedom of the world to allow Texas to fall. New York's fallen. New York's fallen. You've got a Ugandan Marxist jihadist as and who I think could be denaturalized in an afternoon if somebody would get focused. That's running New York City. And New York City is already a mess. It's going to be a bigger mess after this. So where do they go right now if they want to get on a waiting list? And I want to. Specifically, where do people go to talk about Patriot mobile over at 972 Patriot, where they go and who they talk to?

Glenn Story (22:44)

Yeah, you know, you can call 972-PATRIOT. But if you want to get on the list, it's really patriot mobile.com forward/save Texas. And, and Steve, you just brought this up. What was going on in Austin last week was crazy. The protest and just unruly behavior of groups. And I'll tell you what, if we did that, we'd all be thrown in jail. So I mean, it's like this, two different levels of law, one for us and one for them. And we're not going to let it happen. We're going to, we're, we're going to educate everybody that attends. We're going to have another one. We'll do one of these every quarter and if we have to, every month. And it's really the hottest topic from my perspective. And it's really working together. Different groups that are goals, that do different things. We kind of get together. It reminds me in biblical times, the rebuilding of wall, the ancient wall around Jerusalem. You know, the different groups didn't get along, were working together to get that wall built to protect their city. And quite frankly, that's what we're doing here.

Stephen K. Bannon (23:53)

Clint Story, I want to thank you. You have the back of first responders, you have the back of conservative groups. You have the back. You're a Christian company and you put your values to work. I really want to appreciate you. Saw you guys in action over the last summer, whether it's redistricting or this issue about Islamization. And for you guys, you can rally the troops quickly. To do this in 10 days is pretty extraordinary. So I want to thank you, you and Jenny, the entire team over at Patriot Mobile. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.

Glenn Story (24:22)

Well, we want to thank you for participating and sharing this with the posse. If it weren't for the posse, it wouldn't be able to happen either, so.

Stephen K. Bannon (24:32)

Well, the posse exists because of guys like you. We give, we give people access to information and news and in groups that empowers them and allows them to use their agency to. This is what this is about. There's a big problem down Texas and Glenn said something quite powerful. The behavior of these groups when they get riled up and the police play patty cake with them. Gotta stop. Can't have two systems of law. Can't do it. And you're seeing the people of Texas. I can tell you how important this is. An event like this put together over the holidays is people will tell you it just can't happen. It came together like that, we could have sold this room out two or three times the size. That's the level of interest of people that want to come and see this. Neil McCabe joins us. Neil, we've got a bunch of things happening tomorrow in commemoration of, I hope one day is made a national holiday about Patriots. That's January 6th. We've got a press conference, there's marches, there's all types of things going on. We're putting out music, we've got film coming out. Can you walk us through the punch list of exactly what is happening, sir?

Neil McCabe (25:39)

Yeah, of course. The documentary is the Sleeping Giant, which not only talks about J6 but that sort of that struggle for these guys and girls to recover from J6. It's not really fair that we, you know, a lot of them got a pardon. 14 of them only had their sentence commuted, but you know, they got clemency from the President, which we're all grateful for. But it's not really fair to ask these guys to say, okay, now go on and have a normal life. There's a lot of recovery for these guys. And that documentary digs into it and really makes it real. Tomorrow at 11 there's going to be a press conference that will carry Live Real America's Voice. And then there'll be a speaking program at the ellipse at 11:45. And when that speaking program is over, there's going to be a peaceful and patriotic march to the Capitol, Steve. And at 2:44 they're going to lay some flowers down. And of course, 244 is the time that Lieutenant Byrd murdered Ashley Babbitt. And so it's going to Beit's going to be jam packed. There's going to be a lot of people there before you ask another question. I just want to get it out to people that you probably want to take the Federal Triangle or Metro Center Metro stops rather than trying to drive in. And also be aware that, you know, this is a National Park Service permitted event. So treat it like a concert or a ball game. So there's nothere's no strollers, no backpacks, no aerosol cans. Like there's a whole list of things that you just treat it like a ball game or a concert and everything will go smooth. STEVE.

Stephen K. Bannon (27:28)

So yeah, we're going to do the we're going to do the press conference, the kickoff press conference during the war room. That'll be from the Willard Hotel. That'll lead into a speaker event, that they'll have a speaker event at the Ellipse. And then just like on January 6th, what, five years ago, there's going to be a peaceful march up to the Capitol just like it was then. Neil McCabe and then, of course, we're going to honor Ashley Babbitt. Trying to get Ashley Babbitt's mom on tonight or tomorrow morning sometime. Neil, can you just hang on one second? Just hang on a minute. Neil McCabe joins us. We got Joe Allen. We're packed this afternoon. What did Madera say? I am a prisoner of war, thinks throwing down pretty hard. His compadres in Venezuela throwing down hard too short. Commercial break Back in a moment. This Christmas, give the gift of food security with an amazing deal from our close friends over at my Patriot Supply. It's called the Buy one Gift two Christmas Special and you guys have got to check it out all month long. When you buy an emergency food kip, you get two more food kits free to give as gifts. That's right. Get a four week emergency food supply for yourself and they'll throw you two one week food kips absolutely free. The one week kits make perfect gifts for anyone on your list who's into preparedness or anyone who needs a little nudge in that direction. These days, it just makes sense to have some food stored away in case of emergencies. And with this Buy one Gift two Christmas deal, you're not only getting it yourself prepared, you're also getting unique and meaningful Christmas gifts for your friends or family. And they're free. So head over to my Patriotsupply.com Bannon and grab yours today. This offer is only around for the holiday season, so go to my Patriotsupply.com Bannon now that's my Patriotsupply.com Bannon, the buy one gift two Christmas special. Do it today.

Religious Commentator (29:59)

War room.

Stephen K. Bannon (30:00)

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Neil, before I let you go, I do want to go through the logistics of markers. I want all our viewers, everybody to understand we have a full day in celebration of the, in commemoration of, of J6 and its meaning and purpose. The President has been up all day, you know, last night about the machines in Venezuela. He had a text of a report by, I think it was Dr. Michael Schur who was the head of the bin Laden tracking group at the CIA at the time. And he left the CIA many years ago and he's adamant that the 3rd of November of 2020 was a CIA driven coup. This is a guy that worked for the CIA his entire life. So I want to go back to the legislature. But before doing that, given your military experience, Pete, there's a process that started today. The process started against Mark Kelly and I think Mark Kelly, if he hasn't lawyered up already, he should have lorried up today because Pete Hex has started the process, sending a letter of censure, turning over to the Secretary of Navy. It's pretty evident to me that they're going to recall Kelly to active duty, bust him first, recall him to active duty and court martial him. And I think the brothers looking at Leavenworth. Your thoughts, sir?

Neil McCabe (31:29)

Yeah, absolutely. There's this, I don't know what you call it, a myth, but there's this perception that once you've retired from the military, especially if you're an officer, that you're free and clear. If you're receiving a pension, that pension is actually a retainer because you are ready to be recalled at any moment. So basically, if you, if you receive that retainer, you know you can be called back. And that's what Kelly, if Kelly's receiving that money, he's on the hook. He's a member of the Fleet Reserve. And so they can call him back. They could call him back today and put him in Syria, they could put him in Iceland or they could put him in the brig. Now, the letter of censure is pretty strong because he really goes after good order and discipline and his conduct as an officer. And that's Article 133 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. And there's actually a court case called U.S. v. Hooper where the U.S. claims court ruled flat out citing Supreme Court precedent that hey, if you're an officer and you're on retainer, it's just like you're on active duty. It's like you have the exact same status and so Kelly was really playing with fire, Steve, because, you know, they tried to be cute by one turn, right? But actually, the whole purpose of that video was to suggest that military personnel were receiving illegal orders, and that illegal orders was actually a present threat that was going on currently. And so that absolutely undermines good order and discipline. Steve.

Stephen K. Bannon (33:08)

No, no. Okay, look, let's step back and look at a real world example the other night on the extraction. You have 12,000 to 14,000 fleet marines and sailors, airmen, all of it. The complexity of making that work. And that gets down to the deck plates of the engine room and damage control on the cruisers, on the destroyers, on the aircraft carrier and the flight deck. Everybody has to work in unison because they train all the time, particularly deployments at sea. You can't put it in a seaman's mind, you can't put it in a young fireman's mind or deckhand's mind that they have some option, you know, they can sit there and be a sea lawyer. You have to work as a team. What Kelly did, particularly Kelly's, you know, understanding, it's unacceptable. And he has to be court martialed, he has to be sent to Leavenworth, and people have to know if you're going to be cute. As President Trump said, no games. Because the evolution that took place is not just the super elite shooters and gunmen to go and kick down the door and kill the 32 Cubans. Obviously they're at the highest level of military training, but it's everybody. Remember, the military takes essentially the common man and woman and turns them into a warrior. That meshing of people together is the purpose of the process. You can't quite. And for them to do that was to throw a monkey wrench in against Donald John Trump as commander in chief of the armed forces. And you see how the armed forces are operating under him. Whether you agree with the politics of it or not, whether you agree with the geopolitical strategy of it or not. The expeditionary hit to end the 12 day war and what just occurred in Venezuela, they're masterpieces. You cannot be prouder of the men and women, the armed forces, for what they do, to practice, practice, practice as a learning organization. And anybody that would try to get in the way of that for common political gain, I'm sorry, Mark Kelly, you're just a pompous ass. You have been for many, many, many years. You're going to Leavenworth, brother, so they can do all the whingeing and whining on msnbc. By the way, MSNBC Beautiful Today it starts trading publicly with Jim Cramer and the stock tanks. It went down 7% at the Open this that thing is such a dog. Anyway, Neil, your thoughts on Mark Kelly before I go back to the logistics.

Neil McCabe (35:34)

Oh yeah, we used to say that stock is such a goat it eats cans. First of all, you were a deck watch officer. So you know, even if there wasn't a shot fired, when you have that many ships at sea, things happen. And if I'm a nozzleman going in to fight a fire in a compartment, I can't be wondering is this operation even legal or constitutional? When I deployed, they told to Iraq, they said, hey, the soldier who thinks is dead, you cannot be contemplating the wither and that you have to act as you are trained and as you are ordered. And so these guys are absolutely playing a dangerous, dangerous game. So it sent a crazy message, frankly, if these guys didn't do that video, I'm sure Maduro might have come to the table and some of our other enemies may have come to the table. It's really bonkers that they would play this kind of game.

Stephen K. Bannon (36:28)

STEVE well, well, you got to have you got to the system has to hold people accountable and Kelly's been out there, you know, he talks a big game now you're going to get a chance, brother. You're going to get busted down to a deck, I think a seaman apprentice, I hope. I just don't know if they can take him lower office. I take it to seaman apprentice and then we're going to put you on trial. Then you're going to be found guilty, then you're going to go to Leavenworth. Anyway. NEIL logistics tomorrow. Give it to me one more time. We want anybody in the area to show up, but particularly obviously people are going to be real America's voice. We're going to cover it wall to wall starting in the war room at 11:00am Eastern Standard Time. But what do you got for us?

Neil McCabe (37:05)

NEIL Right, so I'll be out and about and doing some of the earlier shows. Perhaps the presser is at 11. The speaking program begins at the Ellipse at 11:45. The best metro stops are going to be Federal Triangle and Metro Center. After the speaking program, there will be a peaceful and patriotic march to the Capitol where they will lay flowers in memory of Ashley Babbitt and the others who died that day at 2:44, which is the moment when Lieutenant Byrd murdered Ashley Babbitt. And it's going to be a very powerful event and I'm really looking forward to being a part of it. It's going to be epic.

Stephen K. Bannon (37:46)

Steve, did I miss my we covered Maduro in detail today. Did I miss did the war room miss the perp walk of Lieutenant Byrd? Has he perp walked yet for the murder and cold blood of Ashley Babbitt?

Neil McCabe (37:59)

I believe he's still at liberty. He still walks the earth as a free man. Kelly may be in jail before bird.

Stephen K. Bannon (38:09)

Well, no, the bird thing's got to be taken care of. It's got to be taken care of. It's outrageous.

Neil McCabe (38:13)

There's no statute of limitations on murder.

Stephen K. Bannon (38:15)

And murder and having a commemorative commemorating with Ashley Babbitt's mother and her family and nothing's been done about this anyway. Neil, what's your social media?

Neil McCabe (38:27)

You can find me on all the socials at reporter McCabe. Steve.

Stephen K. Bannon (38:32)

Thank you, Neil. Appreciate you Nick. Nick Fretas joins us from the Commonwealth, Virginia. We have Nick up Hey Nick, you put something up on Twitter the other day that I found very revelatory. You're a Special Forces Green Beret. You've done these kind of actions that are in places like Venezuela. You laid out what you thought were two broad alternatives. Can you walk the audience through those, sir? Because both alternatives kind of have involvement of American personnel. So can you take your two alternatives you think is available to the President of the United States to get this thing sorted down there?

Nick J. Freitas (39:10)

Sure. What I tried to lay it out was kind of a best case and worst case scenario. And again, I say this as someone that considers myself a major supporter of the Trump administration. I've been very happy with the changes that have taken place in the military. I don't just say that as a veteran. I say it as also the father of his son who's a young infantryman in the 101st Airborne Division. When we look at we'll start off with worst case scenario. Worst case scenario is if we find ourselves in a situation where whatever government ends up being somewhat implemented or put into position with the support of the United States government, if they don't have adequate support, which is to say that they don't have the funding necessary in order to pay off military and other security personnel. If we see within the anti Maduro political parties within Venezuela, if we see a lot of fracturing and fighting over control of the government, we could very well end up in a situation where a drastic increase of US Military personnel is required in order to provide for security. We could see the various cartels that have been operating currently within the government now operating separate from the government launching a variety of terrorist attacks against both Venezuelan security personnel and US Military personnel. And we can all see how this could devolve very quickly, where we're having to send more and more troops while sustaining more casualties.

Stephen K. Bannon (40:28)

And one thing that, you know, today, Maduro was as arrogant as you possibly be in a federal court. When you go into a federal court, you're supposed to say, yes, sir, no, sir, three bags full, sir. I mean, it's a federal judge. It's got a certain way it rolls. I mean, Maduro sitting there going, I am the president of Venezuela. I was kidnapped from my home. I'm a prisoner of war. So this guy's demeanor today was not somebody that looks like he's trying to cut a deal or it looks like he's going to cooperate in any matter. He couldn't have been more defiant, including when one of the spectators in the court called him out and said, you're finally going to get. Justice is going to be served on you, dirtbag. He was not, you know, he didn't back down on that. So this is my point, is that we're not saying this is going to happen, but it is a blow. As they're planning now, Stephen Miller and Pete Hegseth and Secretary of State Marco, and they're up right now briefing. Brad's gonna tell us what it's like. They're briefing on Capitol Hill right now. And you've already had a West Point grad accuse the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, Dan Ryan at West Point grad accuse him of perjury and lying about what the real status is. This thing is gonna become intensely political immediately. And so that's what we gotta look through both scenarios.

Nick J. Freitas (41:44)

Well, this is the part, too, that people need to understand. Like, I don't want the worst case scenario to happen, but it's something that we have to plan for. Because one of the things that rebels understand fighting the United States is you never. You're not fighting the United States military. You fight the United States military, you will get your ass kicked. Right. That's not what they're trying to do. They're trying to influence public opinion within the United States. Because if they can effectively do that, what ultimately ends up happening is you have negative election results. And those negative election results result in US Forces being either pulled out prematurely or not being deployed adequately or supported adequately. And the end result is, is that you trade one bad regime in Venezuel for another one. That's what we want to avoid. Now, having said that, we need to understand Venezuela is not Iraq, it's not Afghanistan. But there are things that we can learn from Iraq and Afghanistan in order to help us on what happens next within Venezuela. Again, being a Green Beret, our job was by, through and with our job was to develop host nation capacity so Americans don't have to be fighting the war and running the country. And so there's another scenario here where we gain a strong strategic ally within South America in the form of Venezuela. We, we remove the benefits that Venezuela currently gives to strategic, you know, opposition. The United States, China, Russia specifically, but also more geographically relevant, Cuba. Right. There's, there's all kinds of good things that can potentially happen from this. I would argue that the United States doesn't need to deploy a massive amount of troops in order to actually make this thing work. But I don't see any scenario where some aren't deployed. The question is who? So 7 Special Forces Group. They are the Special Forces group. There's five active duty groups, two guard groups. Seven Special Forces group is the one that is responsible for Latin America. They're very, very accustomed to training in this area. They're accustomed to the culture. You have a lot of those guys, they speak the language. So you could see an environment where seven Special Forces Group.

Stephen K. Bannon (43:37)

Hey, yeah, Nick, Nick, just, just hang.

Donald Trump (43:39)

On for a second.

Stephen K. Bannon (43:40)

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Stephen K. Bannon (45:31)

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Stephen K. Bannon (45:38)

So Nick Fredas joins us. Nick, continue on the 7th, the 7th Special Operator Group down there.

Nick J. Freitas (45:45)

Yes, we're kind of.

Stephen K. Bannon (45:48)

What kind of, what kind of what's kind of shocked me is that the two alternatives you laid out both had the insertion of American troops. Do you see a scenario? Because right now we're using naval power, right? We're using a quarantine. He's putting pressure, he said it'll exert pressure. They won't allow any oil to go out. They'll have no cash, nothing goes to Cuba. I'm sure they're gonna do an air quarantine also and only allow in what they wanna allow in. Do you not think that that as you see it right now, like I said, they're briefing up on Capitol Hill, highly classified briefing of this to the big shots on Capitol Hill. The need to, I think it's need to know bases only today. I think they brought it out in the next couple of days. But you don't see a scenario where we can get through this and do what the president said he wants to accomplish without the insertion of American troops. The president said, hey, if you got boots on the ground, you got to have boots on the ground. I'm not afraid of that, sir.

Nick J. Freitas (46:38)

Yeah, I think it's a question of what boots on the ground you have. I don't think we need to go in there with massive division size troops. Again, when you're talking about a group like 7 Special Forces Group, these are guys that our whole mission was by, through and with. We do foreign internal defense, we do counterinsurgency. These guys go in an advisory role. They can do combat operations as well. Obviously that's what we're doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. But it doesn't have to be Americans out front doing the heavy lifting. One of the biggest things that we're going to have to look at here is when Trump was talking about the United States getting down and actually running and managing the oil infrastructure, that's critical because if you don't have the oil infrastructure up and running, then how are you paying soldiers? How are you paying law Enforcement. Well, the cartel's got to manage. They got a mechanism for doing it. That's how the government's been running. And one of the most important things we have to do initially is ensure that the security forces in place are capable, that they can actually carry out their operations and they can actually maintain security and that they're loyal to the government that comes in. I have a hard time seeing any way that we do that without any sort of US military presence. Now maybe it's, maybe it's possible. The President certainly has access to information that I do not. And again, I would argue that this is not something where we need to go in with overwhelming US force, but there needs to be something to ensure that guys don't take their rifles, walk off the job and then go to the highest bidder. One of the biggest problems that we had in Iraq was that we had these smart guys come in and decided they were gonna go through complete de Ba'. Athification. And the next thing you know, we got tens of thousands of military age males with guns and no job. That's not what you want. That's not a good recipe for maintaining security. So as long as we can maintain that security initially, ensure that it's loyal to the government, and then allow Venezuelans to do the vast majority of the heavy lifting when it comes to maintaining security, then you can actually see a pathway where all of a sudden there's faith restored in the government. The Venezuelan people are starting to see the benefits of the incoming government as opposed to the oppression that they saw under Maduro. And the United States picks up a strategic ally which has an incredible amount of potential, both from their oil wealth as well as other feature of Venezuela. But those are the two scenarios that I see it again. I don't claim to have special information as the intel on the ground that the President does, but just knowing a little something about fighting against terrorism and insurgents and what it takes to do that successfully. These are some of the things that I anticipate going forward.

Stephen K. Bannon (49:01)

No, and this is one of the controversies in MAGA about is this nation building or we're getting too involved here. So this is going to develop over the, over the next couple of days. And Nick, you know the President very well. In fact we have. The President was putting up on Truth Social last night. He's putting a lot of things up about now the machines and Venezuela's involvement. I'm honored to have the two gentlemen, Dave Bratt and Nick Friedas, who were, who the CIA, I think had something to Say about the two elections of Spamberger, the current governor of Virginia, won. Talk to me about that. You actually won election day. You were winning on election night. I mean, 2020. We were with you guys the entire time.

Religious Commentator (49:38)

And.

Stephen K. Bannon (49:39)

And then, Nick, you went from the winner. And remember, in the 2020 election, sure. How stolen was Trump won 14 House seats from Nancy Pelosi. We netted 12, but we won 14. Nick Freitas would have been 15. But tell the audience what happened. You won election day. On election night, you were winning. And then what happened, sir?

Nick J. Freitas (50:01)

Well, first of all, I didn't want to run for Congress. I wanted my good friend Dave Bratt to be in that seat in Congress. When, when we ran, we had certain goals that we wanted to hit for our numbers. We vastly exceeded those goals. We were. We went into election day very, very confident. And again, on election night, we were winning the neck. By the next morning, we still were winning. And I kid you not, a thumb drive showed up in Henrico county, which was the bluest county in the district. They had mislabeled it. 15,000 votes were on that, and that was enough to erode our lead and have us lose by less than two points. So it was definitely very, very frustrating. A lot of people. Why didn't you fight it more? Believe me, we tried. The problem was, is you either run out of money or you have. You don't have standing. One of the most nefarious things that happened with the election across the country, and specifically in Virginia, is they had changed so much in the election laws in Virginia that a lot of the stuff that they were doing was technically legal. And what ended up happening is it made it very, very difficult to identify fraud when it was actually happening, when there was a. A high degree of probability that it could be happening. And so you found yourself in a situation where they could essentially run you out of money. And it's kind of where we found ourselves.

Stephen K. Bannon (51:13)

Nick, where can people get you? I want to make sure everybody reads your. Your social media. I'm sure you have a lot more to say, and I know there's going to be a lot of discussion on Capitol Hill as soon as this briefing's over. Where do people go and get and get you, sir?

Nick J. Freitas (51:26)

Well, people can find me at Nick J. Freitas. All of our social media is Nick J. Freitas. And again, I'll just emphasize this. I think within those of us who love this country, who support the Trump administration, we need to be able to have candid conversations about what happens next. But when it comes to the socialist left complaining about this, I couldn't care less what their concern is. They're just mad that a socialist dictator was removed from power. That's my favorite part of all of this. So now let's do the next part of this. Right.

Stephen K. Bannon (51:54)

Nick, thank you. You're a patriot and a hero. Thank you for joining us, sir. Appreciate you.

Nick J. Freitas (51:58)

Thank you, sir.

Stephen K. Bannon (52:01)

Brad, right now we got about a minute. They're up on Capitol Hill and they're with the top people and they're briefing on Venezuela. There will be a couple of three leaks when they come out after this, correct?

Religious Commentator (52:12)

Yeah, no, that's right. We heard about Pat Ryan, the New York congressman, accusing of lying, Rubio of lying. Perhaps he has not read President Trump's National Security Policy. It's called hemispheric dominance. It's been very clear what's going to happen, the overall strategy. Of course, you're not going to announce the New York Times, but you would think politics would end at the water's edge. He was on Dana Bash's Inside Politics. That was the name of the show when he launched his tirade on, you know, the differences between Venezuela and Iraq. The biggest difference, and I'll conclude on this, is that what President Trump is doing can in no way be attached to the big globalist forces that have run this country for the past 30 years. He's digging our way out of that mess, and so I applaud him for this step.

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