Episode 5049: President Trump Sets His Sights On Greenland; Corruption In Maryland

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room, Episode 5049

Date: January 7, 2026
Main Themes:
President Trump’s focus on Greenland and foreign policy; Maryland and Minnesota corruption scandals; the symbolism battle in U.S. state flags; January 6th aftermath; legislative priorities for the Republican House; U.S. military actions abroad.

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Overview

This episode dives into multiple high-stakes political dramas:

• President Trump’s controversial stance on Greenland and foreign relations, especially with Venezuela and Russia
• Explosive corruption audits in Maryland and Minnesota’s public agencies
• Contentious debates over state flags, notably the introduction of the Islamic star in Minnesota’s design
• The ongoing impact of January 6th pardons, political memory, and democratic norms
• House Freedom Caucus strategies for legislative action
• U.S. military actions, including the seizing of a Russian vessel and redirected oil shipments

The tone is urgent and combative, with Bannon positioning his movement as confronting both internal corruption and external threats, while emphasizing symbolism, legal consequences, and political strategy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. President Trump’s Greenland Plan and Foreign Policy

• Michael Steele sharply criticizes Trump’s approach, especially “gangster diplomacy” in Venezuela, likening bribe-like deals to outright imperialism.
• Questioning the logic of seizing Greenland for U.S. security or mineral rights (01:00–02:15).
• Steele warns: “There is no reason to go back to 19th century imperialism. ...It would alienate the United States from the entire world.”
  (01:05–01:32)
• Concerns about a global domino effect—if the U.S. takes Greenland, adversaries like China and Russia might justify aggressive moves (01:35).
• Steve Bannon frames the move as a “hammer blow” to the liberal, rules-based international order, asserting it’s part of a necessary hemispheric defense strategy (21:30).

2. January 6th: Legacy and Legislation

Pardons and “Erasing” History

• Simone (History Professor) condemns Trump's pardons for January 6 rioters: “If you are violent on Donald Trump’s behalf, you won’t just be prosecuted, you’ll be rewarded.”
  (02:42–03:11)
• Trump’s administration is accused of whitewashing January 6, removing references from the DOJ website, and appointing insurrectionists (03:12–03:46).
• Jackie Forney and others compare post-J6 revisionism to how the Civil War’s history was rewritten by its losers—highlighting the need to confront uncomfortable truths (07:27–08:57).
• “We were there, baby. We saw it, we lived it.” — Simone (08:53)

3. Corruption in Maryland and Minnesota

Maryland Behavioral Health Scandal

• Auditor Judy Randall reports millions lost to mismanaged grants, lack of bidding, and outright document fabrication.
  • “The most explosive revelation is that managers... tried to cover their tracks by backdating and creating new documents.” (04:11–05:42)
• Bannon: “To me, that's criminal.” (05:30)
• Lawmakers consider criminal investigations as cover-ups and mismanagement appear systemic (06:18–06:42).

Minnesota Grant Fraud & Demographic Politics

• Focus on a recent audit: $672,000 paid to a grantee for one month’s work—no oversight, followed by staff moving immediately to the private sector.
• Mike Lindell and Bannon describe “well thought through” systems designed for exploitation, equating the fraud’s scope to national issues like border security (10:49–13:37).
• Bannon: “They paid somebody $675,000 for a month of work… the person that approved it resigned and went immediately to be a consultant firm.” (13:05–13:17)

State Flags & Islamic Star Controversy

• Jackie Forney details a pattern of cities adopting flags featuring the eight-point Islamic star, particularly in Minnesota (13:48–14:43, 18:02–20:13).
• Argues that changes are part of a symbolic “Islamification” and power shift:
  “If you want to decapitate a movement and an ideology, it is through symbols. When symbols change, power shifts.” (18:52)
• Bannon supports campaign to restore “American” symbols to state flags (21:07–21:19).

4. U.S. Military Actions: Venezuela Oil, Russian Vessel Seizure

Venezuelan Oil Redirection

• Todd Woods reports a U.S. naval blockade redirected oil from Venezuela away from China toward the U.S., with $2 billion worth of oil rerouted (21:18–21:55).
• Bannon attributes the aggressive play as “a hammer blow to the post war international liberal rules based order,” escalating global tensions (21:55).

Seizure of Russian Vessel

• Woods describes a “Tier One” special ops takedown of a Russian tanker, “Bella One/Marinara”, in the Atlantic.
  “This was a Tier one soft takedown... SEAL Team six likely... They were on the ship before the helicopters got there.” (24:03–25:22)
• The action is interpreted as raising the stakes with Russia, countering narratives that Trump is soft on Putin (27:07).

5. House Freedom Caucus Legislative Agenda

Interview: Congressman Andy Harris

• Harris stresses a MAGA-aligned legislative program:
  • Re-enacting border controls (HR2), mandatory voter ID, judicial reform, and checks against executive overreach (33:30–34:39).
  • Calls for a “talking filibuster” in the Senate to break legislative deadlocks and enable passage of key agenda items (37:05–38:14).
  • “We run on that agenda. We will win.” (34:38)
• Bannon urges listeners to pressure House/Senate leadership and use direct action to push these items through (38:14–40:28).

6. Mike Lindell’s Campaign for Minnesota Governor

• Lindell details deep, endemic fraud in state agencies and makes his case for running, based on both rooting out corruption and restoring accountability (46:24–49:27).
• “This is just one small department... I believe you’re going to see they all have some sort of fraud in them, and they’re both horizontal and vertical.” (43:14)
• Criticizes AG Keith Ellison for targeting his Christian recovery network instead of confronting government fraud—framing this as anti-Christian persecution (49:27–52:02).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Michael Steele: “There is no reason to go back to 19th century imperialism... then we will empower countries like China. If they can take Greenland, of course we can take Taiwan. Putin—well, there’s no difference. We’re just like them.” (01:30)
• Simone (History Professor): “They are writing at this moment, still writing that history [of Civil War and January 6th] and lying to themselves, to your point and to the American people about what happened...” (07:27)
• Jackie Forney: “Pattern recognition is 8 point Islamic stars are replacing and erasing traditional flags of American cities throughout the United States.” (20:13)
• Judy Randall (Auditor): “Managers... tried to cover their tracks by backdating and creating new documents.” (05:32)
• Steve Bannon: "This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people." (09:07)
• Todd Woods: “This was a Tier one soft takedown... SEAL Team six likely... They were on the ship before the helicopters got there.” (24:03–25:22)
• Andy Harris: “We think that there should be voter ID. Again, 80% of Americans agree that you should, you should have to show an ID at a poll to vote.” (33:30)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Trump’s Foreign Policy & Greenland:
  00:00–02:20
• January 6th Pardons & Political Memory:
  02:42–09:07
• Maryland/Minnesota Corruption (audits, flags):
  04:11–21:19
• Minnesota Flag/Icelandic Star Controversy:
  13:48–20:13
• Venezuelan Oil Blockade & Russian Vessel Seizure:
  21:18–27:07
• Freedom Caucus Legislative Agenda:
  31:46–40:51
• Lindell’s Governor Campaign & Corruption Claims:
  43:14–52:02

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Summary

This episode is a rapid-fire analysis of headline GOP concerns: Trump’s unprecedented international gambits, deep-rooted state corruption, heated battles over cultural symbols, and the machinery of Republican legislative ambition. Bannon and his roster of guests mix policy detail, alarmist rhetoric, and grassroots activism, consistently framing their cause as a last stand against both internal rot and external foes. For MAGA supporters, it’s a call to arms; for observers, a window into the narrative-building and culture war priorities currently driving the populist right.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

You know, will help the country's economy. And if the economy is doing better, democracy will follow. But we know that's not the case. There's no talk of democracy, is there?

[Michael Steele]

There isn't, Stephanie. But we're not a dictatorship. We're not a monarchy. The American people don't have to get behind Trump just because he, he picked up Maduro. And now we're going to extort them for two and a half billion, three billion dollars of oil. I want us to have a debate about that. Do you realize how crazy this is? We picked him up and, and now it's gangster diplomacy, right? Pay us two or three billion dollars and we will let your regime stay in place and for many, many years. And Senator Rubio, maybe he forgot what he used to say. We talked about this dictatorship and the dictatorship is still in place. Every single person is there. So it's not regime change. And now the President is just going to take a bribe so that we don't run the country, that we don't do regime change. And, and I want to suggest that this is not the way we should conduct our foreign policy abroad. This does not serve the interests of the American people. Even the President's comment, this is going to be for the American people and the Venezuelan people, this money, what does that mean? How completely insane this idea is on so many levels. First of all, there is no national security interest that we need to seize Greenland. They have not made the case. We can have as many soldiers there as we want. We have bases there. I worked in the government. I know what we, how we've used Greenland before. We can do that through negotiation. Second, they roll out minerals. We can sign treaties, we can sign agreement contracts to get minerals. There is no reason to go back to 19th century imperialism. But third, to your point, Stephanie, not only would it blow up NATO, it would alienate the United States from the entire world, from the democratic world, the free world, the autocratic world. And then we will empower countries like China. Well, if they can take Greenland, of course we can take Taiwan. Putin, well, there's no difference. We're just like them. I just think this is so insane and we need to call it out as insane.

[Jackie Forney]

January 6th was not just one day.

[Steve Bannon]

I think it was a strategy.

[Jackie Forney]

And if we are not laser focused and aware, aware of what transpired in.

[Steve Bannon]

The lead up to what happened on that fateful day five years ago, then I shudder to think how flat footed we will be caught months from now as it relates to the 2026 midterms or the next presidential election.

[Simone]

I think you're exactly right. This isn't just a fight about the past. It's a fight about the future. And I think that two things are important here. The first is by pardoning the January 6 rioters, the president did something very practical, which is that he empowered a group of people that were willing to be violent in his name would be literally put beyond the reach of the law. You know, we now have over 1500 people who have been told, if you are violent on Donald Trump's behalf, you won't just be prosecuted, you'll be rewarded. You know, so that's the first thing, the second thing, and I think this gets to why Donald Trump has spent so much time trying to erase the history of January 6th. You know, it's not just the pardons. It's the fact that he appointed an election denier to be interim head of the D.C. u.S. Attorney's office that they're taking down materials about January 6th from the DOJ website that they've appointed a literal rioter, Jared Weiss, to a DOJ job. The reason that I think that they're doing this is if they can convince people to forget January 6th or worse, consider it a form of legitimate political discourse, if they can succeed in that, then any violence and attack on democracy will be formisable.

[Jackie Forney]

And this against fraud. The performance audit shows the Behavioral Health Administration sent millions of dollars out the door in grants without making proper checks into who was receiving them. And that is not even the most jaw dropping finding. Lou Ragoose has tonight's top story.

[Mike Lindell]

Lou?

[Judy Randall]

Julie, according to the nonpartisan Legislative Auditor, this is another case of mismanagement of taxpayer money. But perhaps the most explosive revelation is that managers within dhs, the Department of Human Services, tried to cover their tracks by backdating and creating new documents.

[Steve Bannon]

I do want to talk about what a serious issue this is and how it is, frankly, unacceptable.

[Judy Randall]

Another sobering report by the Office of the Legislative Auditor, this one concerning the Behavioral Health Administration within the Department of Human Services, which issues grants to providers treating mental health and drug and alcohol addiction. Hundreds of millions of dollars each year. The audit found them issuing grants to applicants without a bidding process.

[Jackie Forney]

So what we saw is that there was multiple entities that could have been eligible and they chose not to provide a justification for why they were picking those.

[Steve Bannon]

This report is quite stunning.

[Judy Randall]

One outrageous example, the auditors found a grantee that was paid $672,000 for one month of work without any info on what they do. And the audit says the grant manager who paid then left DHS a couple days later and became a paid consultant for that company.

[Steve Bannon]

To me, that's criminal.

[Judy Randall]

Auditor Judy Randall says she was most shocked that during the audit, multiple DHS managers backdated or created new documents to try to cover their tracks.

[Steve Bannon]

Frankly, in the 27 plus years I've been with Ola, I have never seen this before. I will say we have had suspicions periodically, but we have never been able to, to prove it, to document it, and we did in this case. And it's very troubling.

[Judy Randall]

Temporary DHS Commissioner Sherene Gandhi's response.

[Steve Bannon]

I was shocked to hear this information in the exit conference. And it is absolutely unacceptable that any staff would provide anything other than accurate representation of the work done to an auditorium.

[Judy Randall]

Now, there were a lot of questions from lawmakers about whether this audit should result in criminal investigations. So we'll see what comes from that. The Office of the Legislative Auditor provides recommendations both to the department and to lawmakers in case law changes are needed. Just one more time of what the auditor said regarding this fabrication of documents. She called it a systemic problem within dhs.

[Simone (History Professor)]

We have come full circle and, you know, today is a day where we kind of reflect on a lot of things, all of us, like 9, 11, and like @ other times in our nation's history where something traumatic has happened, we remember where we were, what we were doing, and remember watching those events unfold. And so there is that part of this that is history for us. And so it got me reflecting a little bit about history. You know, our history professor here at the table is Simone, and she was, she's very quick to make those links to important periods in our nation's history as part of the progress or lack thereof that we're making. And for me, that came that circle completion was after the Civil.

[Steve Bannon]

War. Yeah, talk about.

[Simone (History Professor)]

It. Michael Steele, after the Civil War, what happened? We allowed the people who moved against the government who caused and fought in a way to keep slavery. Yes. But even more so to overturn the fundamental foundations of this country. They built monuments to themselves. They started writing the history, and they continue to lie to this day about what those events that were at the heart of the Civil War were about. They are writing at this moment, still writing that history and lying to themselves, to your point and to the American people about what happened between 1860 and 1865 and now today, five years after January 6th, you have this president and those insurrectionists lying to themselves and to the country about what happened on that day. The Difference is we weren't at the table in 1865, but we were in our living rooms. We were on our jobs. We were at cafes and places around this country watching that happen. So how do we impress upon people you're both testifying on the Hill that this is real? This is real. What happened is real. And everything this president is saying about those events is a lie. Yeah, you can whitewash it all you want with a pardon, but we were there, baby. We saw it, we lived.

[Steve Bannon]

It. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies cuz we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free.

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Stephen K.]

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[Steve Bannon]

Ban. It's Wednesday 7th January, year overlord 2027. There's a lot going on today there's a big press conference with the Make America Healthy and Make America and the agriculture part of this, the Maha movement, I think Secretary of Agriculture and Bobby Kennedy. That's an 11 o' clock hour. We're going to dip into that right now. There's a hearing going on oversight comer about the Minneapolis Somalian fraud you saw right there, local TV in Minnesota. And now the facts are coming out these audits and people now they can't run away from this. And I think you see why Waltz, Waltz dropped out because they're going to very quickly go to criminal charges here. And so he had no shot of being governed again. He would have never beaten Mike Lindell anyway. But he has no shot right now. So we've got that. Also President Trump is.

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[Steve Bannon]

Clear. We wanted to show you a cold open. We could have gone for the entire hour on the full meltdown. Trump derangement syndrome is going next level right now. Last night, the hate and I think if you got to, you know, grade it, I actually think the hate of what the war room posse, the J Sixers, President Trump and others have done to really shift the narrative, frame the Overton window and actually show you the Fed's Direction of what it was about is just magnificent and with no resources to do it. And I got to thank the J6ers and all their families who have just on the fifth anniversary, have not given up, have not quit and continue to press this in the left and the media, total full meltdown. Because they understand that their whole narrative from the end of democracy to now, it's a deep state. It was a deep state operation. We'll have more on that about what has to happen now between the administration and Congress. To get now down to the deck plates on. On getting this sorted. We're trying to get Jackie Torporov up for this first segment. May not be able to do it because of a technical issue. Jackie, remember Jackie months ago, I think it was in the spring or early summer. Remember he had the situation where all the flags of the states were in cities, were. Were being changed or having all sudden all these contests to like change the flags. And they changed the flag of Minnesota, in fact. Can we play waltz? Can we play the waltz club? Just tell me when we got ready. Waltz made a big deal. This is waltz. The criminal who just basically allowed the Somalians to steal money and others to steal money, you know, hand over fist. Remember that audit? Yes. In the. In the cold open, they paid a con. They paid somebody $675,000 for a month of work. Never checked what the work was going to be. And then the person that approved it resigned and went immediately to be a consultant firm. And even the guy on the panel said, isn't that criminal? Yes, it's criminal. So you have that. And this has been a well thought through. This is like the invasion of the southern border. This is like all the immigration laws. It's not chaos and anarchy. They've designed this system to flood the zone with. With foreigners, illegal alien invaders, whether they call them amnesty seekers or whether they call them here coming in on some sort of work. Passport, HB1 visas, all of that. It's a well defined, well thought through process. Do we have this? Yeah. Can we? Let me play the waltz clip. You'll see him making a big deal. This liver lip. Making a big deal about taking that beautiful old state flag of Minnesota and changing. Let's watch it. All right, ready? Whoa, wait a.

[Mike Lindell]

Minute.

[Steve Bannon]

There. That's better. Right there with the Islamic star, Jackie Toborov. You're the first one to bring this up. You were mocked and ridiculed at the time, but I think we see what's going on now. What do you got for us.

[Jackie Forney]

Girl? Okay, so the flag represents the growing Muslim population, the growing Somali population. Somali has the largest population in Minnesota in the United States and there's a total of 3% Muslims in Minnesota. So Tim Walls appointed three members to a 13 person flag committee. There was no vote. This happened in 2022. It was approved, signed into legislation in 2023. No one got to vote on it. Here's the thing. While it does resemble the flag of Somalia, we should not get caught up in this being a Somalia issue. It's the eight point Islamic star. This is a symbol that is widely talked about in the Quran. It is a very dedicated Islamic symbol. And when symbols change, power shifts. There are multiple cities throughout the United States that have.

[Steve Bannon]

Replaced. Jackie, Jackie, Jackie, Jackie. Hang on one second. I'm gonna take you through the break. We're gonna come back. I want to discuss this in depth. Jackie Torworth joins us here in In America's.

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[Steve Bannon]

Ban. Okay, welcome back. Silver near an all time high Gold near an all time high the BRICS nations trying to destroy the US Dollar. The BRICS nations are getting a wake up call. We're going to go into this in depth today, both in the morning show and the afternoon show. We got Sam Fedis and Captain Fennell joining us in the afternoon. Todd Wood's going to join us this morning. A naval blockade redirecting oil from Venezuela away from the CCP to the United States of America. Now, Pete Hegseth with a tweet. Pete, Pete's an army officer, not a naval officer, but he used the word blockade. He said it, we didn't. Naval blockade. So that raises the stakes even more, God bless him from a quarantine. We're gonna get into all of that. The hearings going on right now, we're gonna dip into that. But I want to go back to Jackie because Jackie, at the time we had you on a couple, we've had you on a lot for different topics. But because you're, you're a fire breather about education, particularly in the newly occupied city of Manhattan. But you came on about these flags and it was very important because something was wrong. It was just happening all over. And so many of them had this eight pointed star which is absolutely the Muslim star. And as you said, it's referred in the Quran in other places. Tell me what happened. What happened in Minnesota again, in other places as you saw it? Because the pattern recognition here, this is why we're in Texas this week. Something ain't right, folks. What do you got.

[Jackie Forney]

Jackie? Right, okay. So people don't lose it with the Somalia thing. The point is pattern recognition. It is the eight point Islamic star. Tim Walls appointed three people to a 13 person flag committee. They were appointed, there was no vote. Legislation was pass passed in 2023, the eight point Islamic Star up on this flag. It is not the only one currently flying flags with eight point Islamic stars are Reno, Nevada, Hutchinson, Kansas, Kent, Ohio, Wheeling, West Virginia, Pocatello, Idaho, Springfield, Missouri. There are dozens of other eight point Islamic stars proposed for new flag designs. If you want to decapitate a movement and an ideology, it is through symbols. When symbols change, power shifts. This is the Islamification of America and the incoming of Sharia law. In Minnesota, it was the first place to have the Muslim call to prayer. In 1996 there were 5,000 Muslims. Muslims now make up 3% of Minnesota. Somalis between 80 to 100,000. The rest are Muslims. There are currently 88 mosques as opposed to the four back in 1996. This is a population spike in Minnesota of 2008. It is the fastest growing religion in the world, certainly in Minnesota. And I would caution everyone to help with this by looking up your city and state flag, Albany, eight point flag. Eight point Islamic Star proposed Texas, Arizona, Washington D.C. i mean the list goes on and on. By the way, in Minnesota, five of the six finalists had an eight point Islamic star. That is statistically impossible. Steve, you were, I think one of the first people to have Marine Donna Bergstrom on. She specializes in warfare signals and communication. She said on your show this is a threat to national security and we are all going to miss it if we are stuck on Somalia. The pattern recognition is 8 point Islamic stars are replacing and erasing traditional flags of American cities throughout the United.

[Steve Bannon]

States. Jackie, where do people go to get. You've got tons of writings on education now that New York City, the great New York City, the greatest city in the United States is now occupied by a Ugandan Marxist jihadist, has political control and of course I think they got a housing director that hates whites and she's open about trying to take property from whites. It's becoming fully revealed exactly what happened there. Where do people go on your social media and your site to get.

[Jackie Forney]

More information, please come to my Instagram. I'm very active. That's Jacqueline 4, NYC J A C Q U E N I N E F O R N Y C and my substat Super Moms activated. I write about this all the time. Steve, you were the first person to take this seriously and two years ago you had it on your streaming network. No one else would touch it other than Stella Escobedo. I was tracking this with Carrie Byrne and Donna Bergstrom. Literally, you guys were the only.

[Steve Bannon]

Ones. Jackie, thank you. We're happy back on here. We're going to drill down and we're going to. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to get those flags reversed and get good old American stars on.

[Jackie Forney]

There.

[Steve Bannon]

Yes. Let's get them reversed. We're gonna take, we're gonna roll it back. We're gonna, we're gonna reverse. I, I'm still, by the way, I know the eight point stars around but that just looks too close to the Somalian flag. I'm still, I'm still a Somalian flag guy in Minnesota, but I hear you don't get too wrapped up. Thank you, ma'. Am. Jackie Toborough, fire breather. Thank you, man. Appreciate you. Todd Woods. So we're going to go into more depth this afternoon on the five o' clock show and I'm gonna have Harnwell on before he does the six. There's so much going on in Europe right now. Full meltdown. That's what we wanted to show you. The tee up in the cold open of the complete and total meltdown of the elites. President Trump is delivering a hammer blow because of hemispheric defense and the way he's going about it, a hammer blow to the post war international liberal rules based order and the globalist which is the foundational element of globalization. And the globalists are losing it. They're losing it in Europe they're saying this is it, the end of NATO, all of it. President Trump part of this. And you see this in Venezuela where the three parts he put out in Venezuela was you got to stop the drug trafficking. I need all the foreign. And Ruby, I think gave him a message yesterday. I need the CCP guys out. I need the Russians out. I need Hamas out and Hezbollah out. I need the Cubans out. If there's any more Iranians that are not Hamas and Hezbollah, they gotta go too. He wants all that out. And most importantly the redirection of the oil. I think it's $2 billion yesterday that he redirected on vessels to the United States away from the CCP and they lost it already. They've come up and just they had a press conference I think this morning with the head. I think an interior minister hit her. All she just went off about almost. I'm not saying said it was an act of war, but we're getting there. And Pete Hex of the day said it's a blockade, not a quarantine. But in everything that's happening on this, probably the most important is this vessel. Todd woods joins us. Todd, you've got in all your news sites and everything you cover the United States but you also do a great job in Eastern Europe. Europe in the Middle East. There's a vessel out there that people have been tracking. Turns out it's a Russian vessel. I get. I talked to you the other night when I saw some aircraft, the aircraft and I thought maybe they were pre positioning for some activities in the Middle East. And you corrected me because you're an expert. I said no, no, no, no. I think this is for something else. I don't think these are going to go to the Middle East. Near the Middle east country you think? At least not for now because they can't get there. We've had helicopters around this vessel. Can you guess up to date on what's have we actually seized? Has the Coast Guard or the United States Navy or the CIA? Have we actually seized this Russian vessel on the high seas.

[Todd Woods]

Sir? Yes, it's now in Full US Control. The Secretary of War put that out, that the, it's called the Bella One or the Marinara. It's changed its names a few times. What you see there are soft helicopters, special operations helicopters from 1 60th Special Operations Aviation Regiment. And at Fort Campbell they were deployed in. What you saw was a bunch of C17s bringing equipment over to the UK. But what tipped me off was there was also a naval P8, which you can explain more about that. It's a reconnaissance and surveillance plane keeping an eye on the tanker. Also a V22. But these aircraft, we saw pictures of little birds in the area, which are the AH6, which bring in the shooters to the ship along with the fast ropes from the Blackhawk you're seeing there. So this was a Tier one soft takedown. I mean this is not that big a deal to take a ship, but this is such a high profile, I'm sure they use Tier one assets. SEAL Team six likely. I, you know, there's a lot of rivalry in this group and I, I guarantee you the dev group would not let Delta take the ship. So this was an ST6 mission. Likely. And there's a lot of infiltration methods. I won't go into that. They were on the ship before the helicopters got there. Let's just say that and.

[Steve Bannon]

Explain. Explain. Todd, Todd, Todd, take a second. Just tell the audience what's a Tier one? Who's in Tier one? You say competitive. I mean, this is what, when I was in the Navy back in the, in the 70s and early 80s, the seals, before they kind of went Hollywood, this is their stock and trade. I mean they're Naval commandos, right. And we would, we would sit off the coast of San Diego, of Coronado on weekends and they would come and try to, you know, they try to take the ship. They would do these exercises all the time. But, and to, to assume that Delta Force is going to take a ship when you've got the Navy there. Tell us, What's a Tier 1.

[Todd Woods]

Asset? Tier 1 means direct contact with the White House, counter terror, you know, the real deal, serious black missions. That's Tier one Special Operations SEAL Team six. Delta was a while. The unit I used to fly for the 20th SOS, now that's commissioned, moved to the Army. There were V22s, AFSOC, Air Force assets, the tilt rotor in the area also. But this is classic jsoc. You know, Tier one is under JSOC in, in Fort Bragg, which is Joint Special Operations Command. And this is a classic Tier one mission. You know, it's interesting that they, they were using all types of assets, but obviously the, the Russian aircraft or the Russian tanker, it's, it's allegedly a Russian tanker, but it was re flagged a few weeks ago or a few days ago. So I don't think this is as big a legal issue that we were talking beforehand. You know, how can you just re flag a tanker at sea? I'm not a naval expert. I'll have to ask some people about that. But I, I think that there's a lot of talk that they got there before the Russians could get there to assist the ship. Well, I'm saying these guys were on board before anybody knew anyone was in the area. And I won't go into their methods, but that's how they, that's how they.

[Steve Bannon]

Roll. Yeah. So, and then they brought, Hang on, Todd. Yeah, I'm a hold you to the, I'm a hold you through the break. We got Andy Harris, the head of the House Freedom Caucus on this all day conference yesterday with President Trump gave that monumental speech. Just I don't want to bury the lead. And the reason I have you on is one, you're an expert. You flew the Air Air Force pilot as a special operator. And so you have expertise in the area, but you also have news sites that cover, I think Ukraine and the Eastern Europe and the conflict in Russia better than anybody. I want the answer and get back the operation and how it was done is, is amazing. Once again, our military is just incredible. However, it's a Russian ship, whoever they got the flag, the flag of the day, it's a Russian ship. And that kind of raises the stakes. It's one thing to blockade off of Venezuela and, and take these and tell the CCP hey, you're not getting your own oil, although that's ratcheted up. But supposedly President Trump's so easy on Putin, they seized a Russian ship. Today. Todd woods is with us. Andy Harris, Congressman Andy Harris is going to join us. Short commercial break during the World Take your phone out. Text Bannon B A N N O N at 989-898. The Ultimate Guide ultimate guide to investing in Gold and precious metals. That's gold and silver in the age of Trump. Get it from.

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[Stephen K.]

Sir? Well, Steve, he's still trying. He says he's going to push redistricting through the Senate President in Maryland actually is more rational and understands that, that they tried this four years ago. They lost in court miserably. We think they'll lose again. We think if they try, we'll go to court and we'll actually try to get a second seat in Maryland. So. But, but he has to. He's running for president and he's got, he's gotta, you know, show his bona fides. He's gotta show that, yeah, he's gonna try to redistrict me out of the seat because that's what the liberal socialists.

[Steve Bannon]

Want. He and Spamberger Newsom will be the candidate, but he and Spamberger, you gotta show that you're taking seats from the House to flip the House against Trump and impeach him. Spamberger and Westmore in a race for that. So we'll keep an eye on it. But you're saying right now, I think you've won in court before, you're feeling good about this. We're going to have Andy Harris in the, in the next.

[Stephen K.]

Congress. Look, I'm, I'm a fighter. You know that, Steve. I'm not, I'm not going down without a fight. I think we're going to win this.

[Steve Bannon]

Fight. Congressman Harris, yesterday the President came all day. You guys were at the Kennedy Senate. President Trump, we covered it, you know, gavel to gavel with the, with the President's speech. An hour, I think, and 30 minutes. Unbelievable. Part of the reason he was going there is think to back your legislative.

[Todd Woods]

Agenda.

[Steve Bannon]

Walk. You sent. You got a letter. Chip Roy's been tweeting it out. You've been tweeting it out. Walk through this program. You've got a very concise program of how to take really the, a lot of the executive orders and codify them into law. People been waiting for this. I don't think it's gotten enough media coverage. So can you take a minute and Put through what the Freedom Caucus has put out this massive legislative agenda that want to implement this year, like now in the House of Representatives.

[Stephen K.]

Sir. Yeah, we think that we have to put forth an agenda. We think it has to be a conservative agenda consistent with the make America Great again. So it's got things like the immigration. We have got to go and retry to pass HR2, which is our border control bill, because we think the President has been tremendously successful. But God forbid we get another Joe Biden type person in the office. You have to make sure that the law specifically will not allow them to do what Joe Biden did over the last four years and go down the line in election integrity. I mean, we think that only American citizens should be voting. What a novel idea. We think that there should be voter ID. Again, 80% of Americans agree that you should, you should have to show an ID at a poll to vote. And if you're going to vote by mail, you better have very rigorous voter ID in place because the ability to commit fraud is much, much higher. And we go down the list of things we need to do. We need to do judicial overreach. Again. This is a comprehensive list that people ought to go to our, the House Freedom Caucus website and you know, pull it up and take a look at it. It's the agenda that we should run on in the midterms. We run on that agenda. We will.

[Steve Bannon]

Win. Congressman. It's amazing. And Grayson, Mo, if you can push it out, this letter that you lay out, the entire thing is kind of breathtaking about what it. And the statement it would make to the American people. The probability. So walk us now through the mechanics. Particularly in an election year, it seems like things freeze up. We now are in a position with, with the tragic death yesterday, we got a car accident. We're at 218, so you can't lose any votes. What is the House Freedom Caucus and Andy Harris's plan to actually make this happen with the speaker and Steve.

[Stephen K.]

Scalise? Well, what we think to do is the first thing you have to do is you have to put that agenda out there. It has to be a reasonable agenda, again, consistent with the. The President consistent with making America great again. We think that the. And it's more than 10 points on this agenda. We think there are a lot of things that need to be done to turn this country around. We think that when you put it out there, hopefully we in essence shame the leadership into saying, yeah, that's what we ought to do. You know, we have a limited Number of weeks between now and the election, every couple of weeks, you should be taking up one of these items and we should be passing it. Then when the president holds his convention in the summer, we should make it clear to the American people, if you send us back as the majority and you send us more senators, because these things are gonna be passed in the House, they're gonna go to the Senate to die because the liberals are in control. With Chuck Schumer, we have to make the case to the American people. You gotta send a House majority and then you have to send a larger Senate majority so that we can deliver on these for the American people. That's the only way we're gonna get through the.

[Steve Bannon]

Midterms. But this I told people when I first saw it the other day and sent it out to everybody, this makes the case for why the filibuster has to change now. We can't wait to another election. Do it now. When he just said shame, I think this is what the audience has a tough time thinking through President Trump. Everybody in this audience, you know, did the polls, walked door to door, knocked on doors. Why do you have to shame leadership? I mean, this is probably as close as you're going to get to the MAGA agenda that could codify and put into law President Trump's executive orders. Because we know that if there's any type of shift to another administration, they can just get rid of the executive orders day one. Why do we have to shame people? Why is this not embraced? Why, quite frankly, was this not the centerpiece of the all day discussion yesterday? You know, point, you know, bill by bill about how we're going to, you know, mount up and get this done.

[Stephen K.]

Sir. Well, Steve, that's exactly why we released it two days before the, before the meeting yesterday. We thought this was going to be the agenda in the meeting meeting yesterday. It turned out it wasn't. But we're not stopping. We're pressing forward with this. And I will tell you, all you have to do over in the Senate is you don't even have to change the 60 vote rule. Just make people stay there and debate all night. If they want a filibuster, that's fine. You have to have the filibuster on the floor. You have to stay there. You have to have quorum votes as necessary because if you do that, the number of filibusters will go to near zero because nobody in the Senate was, wants to stay up all night on a lot of these issues there. Now you will get an occasional issue. But again, you have to reinstitute what we call the talking filibuster. That's the easiest thing because you don't have to change the rules. All you have to do is insist that you have to be there talking. Someone has to be there talking. A quorum present. As soon as a quorum is in present or a quorum of the majority is present, they can call the vote and it's a simple majority. At that point, we think that that should be done. At a minimum, if you're not going to eliminate the 60 vote threshold, at least make it a talking.

[Steve Bannon]

Filibuster. Congressman, how can this audience assist you in the Freedom Caucus guys, and making sure that this is front and center and that the President's fully aware of it and that we can push this together? Because this should be, this should have been all day in the conference, should have gone through this bill by bill that you guys lay out. It should have talked about the tactics and strategy of how to implement it. It's very straightforward. What these are. I mean, it's, it's not a lot of debate about what you guys have put forward. How can we help, how can this audience help you guys muscle this through? Because unfortunately it's going to have to be muscled through the House. So how do we do.

[Stephen K.]

That? Absolutely. So the first thing is again, go to the Freedom Caucus website and look at the list. Just convince yourself. This is, you'll easily be convinced. Just like you said, these are common sense things. These are things that will put in statute the President's agenda. Again, starting with very important things like election integrity, incredibly important, because the midterms, if they steal another election, you can't win an election that's stolen from you. That's the bottom line. So election integrity, very important. Voter id. The President made a very important point last night, Steve, that I think has to be reinforced. 80% of Americans think that you should show an ID when you go to vote. This is a no brainer. We should, I've suggested we should pass the voter ID bill every three weeks in the House, send it over to the Senate and embarrass the number of Democrats who are going to vote against the simple idea of showing an ID when you go to vote because the vast majority of Americans agree with it. Again, these are common sense ideas. Look at them and then urge your members of Congress because you know, there are only three dozen or so of us in the Freedom caucus. The other 180 are not in the Freedom Caucus. Urge a Republican member of Congress to support the idea of this kind of agenda every three weeks, going to the, going to the floor and checking it off. You know, this is the checking off the checklist. And then at the convention in August, the president makes the point, you gotta send me a House majority and you gotta send me a larger Senate majority or we should change that filibuster rule so that we can deliver this agenda to the American people. We're trying. The president is trying. He needs, he needs, he needs to the.

[Steve Bannon]

Legislature, the doom and gloom folks that say there's nothing to do. We're going to lose the Houses. I've said that from day one. It's not, nothing is cast. The die is not cast in this. We can, we can, we can do this. And one of the ways you do it is you have a program that's a positive program of things that you're accomplishing, actions you're taking. Congressman, what's your social media? How do people, how do people track.

[Stephen K.]

You? You go to. And Andy harris.com. you go to, you know, at Rep. Andy Harri. You know, there are multiple ways. Follow me on Facebook. Follow me on X. The bottom line is we're out here to win this battle. We have a plan to win this battle. Because you don't win battles without a plan. We have a plan to win this battle. Let's go forward and let's send President Trump an even bigger majority for his second two years. He will need it because again, the socialists are out.

[Steve Bannon]

There. Congressman, thank you so much. And please keep us up to date on Wes Moore's drive for the nomination of the Democratic Party by taking your seat and taking the chairman of the House Freedom Caucus away from us. Sir, keep us up to date. Appreciate you coming on. We put this out the other day, the conference yesterday I thought was going to be all day on this. Let's say it was not. It was not. But we have to make it. This is, it's a great starting point. I think Annie Harris brings up a great point about this fellow. Something has to be done. So if it's technically too hard for Thune and these guys on the customs and traditions of the Senate, then you go back to what a filibuster. This is what I think most people thought a filibuster was. It was kind of like taken from Mr. Smith goes to Washington, that if they want to step up there, they want to have these like the historic ones. Those of you old enough to remember that took place in the 1960s on some of these bills and some of the social legislation. If you want a filibuster, you have a talking filibuster. You still got the right to filibuster. It's a talking filibuster. But you got to have a quorum, and you got to stand up there the entire time and try to fight it. But President Trump needs the Senate right now. We've allowed custom and tradition to bind us. And you heard Tommy Tuberville yesterday. Tuberville said the first thing they're going to do is do that. They're going to pack the court. They're going to make D.C. a state. They're going to do, you know, everything they do to have a permanent blocking there. And it's, it's. And we got it. We gotta undo that. So I want everybody to see this. We're gonna have more. No need to call right now. We're gonna have a whole program of how you call and how you talk to people. Is Mike. Mike Lindell, I got you for a minute. I'm gonna hold you through the break. Minnesota, we started, there's a comer's got an oversight committee right now, but local folks in Minnesota have been going on media saying that they've. They're auditing these things and it's really criminal activity. Is that what we got.

[Mike Lindell]

Sir? It is huge, Steve. And this is just one small sub organization within the Department of Human Services. And it's their back. They backdated paperwork. This report all came out yesterday that people there that worked there would backdate the paperwork. They'd come up with these organizations to get grants, wouldn't tell anyone else, get the grants, and then they would quit and go work for those organizations. You can't make this stuff up. This is just one small department. You got the Department of Education, Transportation, Agriculture, Children's Youth and Family, the Unemployment, Economic Development, all these silos, I believe, Steve, you're going to see they all have some sort of fraud in them, and they're both horizontal and.

[Steve Bannon]

Vertical. It's.

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Hold. We're holding through the break. Keith Ellison, instead of focusing on this, the brazenness of this. He was after Mike Lindell, trying to shut down his Christian.

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[Steve Bannon]

Banner. The reason we haven't gone into the coma oversight committee is the Democrats are defending him. So you have there. It's, it's not as exciting maybe as we feel the necessary, the, the level for the war room. There is going to be a Press briefing at 11 at the White House. Bobby Kennedy, Brooke, Rosa, we're going to dip in and out all this Lindell. It's pretty obvious, Mike. Now and you told me people understand. Lindell is on point on this thing. He's known this for a while. He's been hammering it behind the scenes. Quite frankly, Mike, this is one of the reasons you told me you felt you needed to step away from the company and to run for governor and be governor to help sort this thing out because you're a Minnesota, you know, you're a Minnesota native and love your state and it's a crime of what's happening. In fact, it's obvious now waltz all that liver lip BS he put out the other day, he understands that massive criminal investigations are coming on this. Ellison's going to be swept up in it. Flanagan's going to be swept up in it because she was oversight a couple of years ago. Walls are going to be swept up in it. Hey, I'm daring Amy Klobuch. Get in the race. Come on.

[Mike Lindell]

Baby.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah. Come on in, Ellison. Come on in. I, I'm daring any Democrat. Amy Klobucher. Big talk. Are you going to run for. Come on in. Run right now. You'll see what Mike Lindell and the war on posy and the, and, and the MAGA movement are going to do to you. This is outrageous. The good folks in Minnesota, hardworking folks, many of whom have never voted Republican or never are not MAGA and that Trump's name makes their heads blow up. Folks just look, they're laughing at you. They're stealing your money in broad daylight, giving it to nefarious institutions and characters and they're laughing at you, and you're paying for it. And people that deserve some support and some help, particularly the African American community and the Hispanic American community and white working class, are not getting it because it's being stolen. MIKE lindell.

[Mike Lindell]

Absolutely. STEVE and this goes back, I was working on this clear back in 2018 when, when then Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan just, she knew about it, got ignored by the waltz administration. They just completely ignored it. And we've been fighting this. And if Amy Klobuchar, she gets in the race. STEVE Remember, Amy, this goes back to election fraud. Now, Amy was the one that raised her hand back in 2018 and said, We've got to get rid of the machines. We've got to go to paper ballots. Then she became completely silent after the 2020 election, that stolen election of 2020. Amy, this was on your watch, too. All this has happened to our great state of Minnesota under your watch. So, Steve, I don't care who it is that comes on board when I said I was running and going in to run for governor, Minnesota, I plan on winning, I don't care who it is, because we've got to secure all of these platforms, all these welfare platforms, not only prosecute everybody, but deport all the illegals and then fix the actual platforms, which I've actually worked on them for about 10 years, the welfare platforms, to reorganize them and redo them and get them so people aren't dependent on them and that they actually, the money actually go to people that actually need it, like we did in Chicago and we did this in Detroit. I did this eight, nine, ten years ago. So I believe I have all the solutions for these problems. But the time is now that we've got to dig into every one of these silos. Remember this, you guys, this one, they just came out. This fraud that was uncovered yesterday, the report that came out, this is just one small sub organization of one department of the Department of Human Services. You have all these departments. And just like at my pillow, I don't just leave one, one department, ignore one department or the other department. You look at them every day. STEVE When I'm governor, I plan on watching every single silo. And I'll be the most transparent governor this country has ever seen to tell the people what's going on every day so they know that there's no more fraud, there's no more criminal criminals, and having politicians that actually work for the people for a.

[Steve Bannon]

Change. Okay, Mike, here's what sticks in my crawl. You have a Christian recovery network I mean.

[Mike Lindell]

You. You admit.

[Steve Bannon]

It. You were a degenerate gambler and you did drugs. You did all this. You turn your life around when you. You brought God first and then Jesus Christ into your life. And then as to, To. To. To. To show thankfulness and gratitude, you started a network, a Christian based network, a recovery network. Keith Ellis, this scumbag, okay, he has come after with all this going on and Keith Ellison never raising his voice. And to me, he's a criminal. He's got to be under criminal investigation by the feds right now. He targeted you. He targeted the Christian. Now he's Muslim. He targeted the Christian Recovery Network while he led all these groups, many of which are associated with Muslim entities. He allowed that to go. Never lifted a finger, never investigated anybody, never put anybody in jail. This is up in your face. Brazen. That's his number one priority in the state. What he do. He came after you to shut down. And let's be blunt. He did this because he's anti Christian. And these guys hate Christianity. And they hate particularly using a recovery network to allow a recovery network to give addicts and people that at the end of their rope and may commit suicide the access to the word of Jesus Christ, our Lord and savior.

[Mike Lindell]

Sir. Yeah, absolutely, Steve. It's the LindellRecoveryNetwork.org and it's free. It's free to anyone out there. Getting off the addictions is just a bonus. Getting to Jesus is the big win. And Keith Ellison came after that. It's been over 13 months ago now that he just targeted the Lindell Recovery Network to get it shut down. And for what? Like you say, Steve. Because it's a Christian network and it helps people. He also targeted my foundation, which. My foundation that's been like a park car was. Was. Was a foundation where you take private sector money and you bring it in to help. Instead of having all these welfare programs, you're using people that want to help. And he. He went after that too. Steve. So you got two things here. Let's destroy these two things where people want to help people and because. Because you happen to be a Muslim and you. You have a different agenda. You have a very evil agenda. That's what he has, Steve. Because there's no other way to explain this, what he's done to myself and my recovery network and.

[Steve Bannon]

Foundation. You're running for the governorship of the state, your beloved Minnesota. Where do people go to find out more about that?

[Mike Lindell]

Sir. Yeah, you guys, you can help help out right now. Our first debate by the way is today everybody, our first governor debate. Mike Lindalegov.com Mike Lindellgov.com you guys, anything you can do to help. We're going to run the biggest campaign for a governor this country's ever seen. It starts today. I'm going on CBS in about two hours. And you guys, we need help. We all your money is going to just go to help win this race and save Minnesota and help save our.

[Steve Bannon]

Country. We're going to strike stream it. Thank you, sir. Appreciate.

[Mike Lindell]

You. Yeah, thank.

[Steve Bannon]

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