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Episode 5065: Using Local Sheriffs To Save The States; Trump Policies Spearhead Economic Growth
Episode 5065: Using Local Sheriffs To Save The States; Trump Policies Spearhead Economic Growth ...
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Narrator/Reporter
Local school kids in Minneapolis en masse walking out of their school to tell Trump's federal agents to leave them alone and get out of their town. Tonight we're going to talk about what Minnesotans are doing to try to protect their schools. Forming human chains around Minnesota public schools at pickup and drop off. The Wall Street Journal reporting this weekend on a surge in, quote, volunteers, many of them moms already involved in their schools, using Google Docs to divvy up tasks such as deliver groceries to immigrant families. Volunteers are on hand at drop off and pickup at schools with whistles to blow in case ICE agents show up. The Immigrant Defense Network telling the Washington Post that they have trained about 2,000 people total to be ICE observers in the Twin Cities. About 2,000 people total. But then the day after ICE killed Renee Nicole Goode in Minneapolis, they got a huge surge. They had 354 people show up in one day, the very next day to be trained to be ICE observers. 354 people showed up in one day.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Back up.
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Go that way. Hey, back up. Walk, side walk, side walk, side walk, side walk. You are not following the law.
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Does this make you feel strong, young man? This is your duty.
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Why don't you help that woman? Help that woman. Why don't you help someone?
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All you do is hurt. All you do is hurt. She drives out.
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Where is the law?
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Narrator/Reporter
The mayor saying, quote, donald Trump should know that as long as federal agents are in our city acting unconstitutionally against our neighbors, we will continue to push back with everything we've got. Here are Democratic members of Congress turning up at the local ICE detention facility, the local ICE jail in Minnesota, demanding to be let in because as members of Congress, they are allowed by law to inspect any federal facility like that at any time with no notice. But these members of Congress were nevertheless turned away. Today, Democracy Forward went to court to force ICE and force the Trump administration to let those members of Congress in, because that, in fact, is the law. And again, if they were hoping that their shambolic and chaotic violence would dissuade Americans from standing up to them.
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Sheriff Mack
Well.
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Narrator/Reporter
They do not understand Americans. They do not understand how we are wired. It is having the opposite effect.
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Stephen K. Bannon
We're given 90 day notices to places like California. Scott, Right away we're going to send out that notice. Who would bill the federal government as people poured into the state to send those people back? Because no country can afford to do it. No country can afford to take in millions of people, pay for their education, their health care, their hospitals. You just can't do it. And we all have a heart. You can't do it. But many of those people are murderers. They're people released from jails, prisons, mental institutions, insane asylums. There are people that are drug dealers, they're addicts. Additionally, starting February 1st, we're not making any payments to sanctuary cities or states having sanctuary cities because they do everything possible to protect criminals at the expense of American citizens. And it breeds fraud and crime and all of the other problems that come. So we're not making any payment to anybody that supports sanctuary cities.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War room here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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It's Tuesday the 13th of January, year of our Lord 2026. Thank you for coming to the afternoon, late afternoon, early evening edition. Now, you know the early evening edition on Monday, Tuesdays and Thursdays, the 6 o' clock show is War Room Texas. And we're going to have a great crowd there tonight. A great group of people. Don't want to miss that about the Islamic takeover of the great state of Texas. But I want to start first. Rachel Maddow is telling you, you see how unctuous she is, how she's all puffed up up there in that Barn making that $20 million a year. What we Americans, she doesn't understand. We Americans, lady, you are trying to protect 15 to 20 million illegal alien invaders who are certainly not Americans to stay inside this country. And you're trying to stop federal officials from performing their tasks under the Constitution. We played the cold open this morning. All these lawsuits that the mayor of Minneapolis has and Walz has who are all going to go to prison for the, for the scams they've got in bed with the Somalians, including the Attorney General Ellison. You're all up to your neck in it. You're going to tell Americans, you're going to tell hardworking, patriotic Americans and law enforcement and ICE Agents. Oh, they don't understand how we Americans are. You're instigating. I don't know why we're not rolling up msnbc. Oh, excuse me. Shamwow, the new, it's. The new name is shamwow. That's the news. Was it Ms. Now, shamwow, remember that guy had that, the shammy giving you a shine on the hood of your car. The shamwow network is instigating violence against federal. You see that, that clip right there? We could play hours of that type of stuff. Sheriff Mackay joins me. Sheriff, when I have these questions about law enforce enforcement, you're one of the first people I turn to. What are federal agents supposed to do and what recommendation would you give to the President of the United States? Now he's going to cut them off on the 1st of February. No money there. Before that on the 20th of January, if we head down this path, the radical Democrats are going to try to shut down ICE by defunding it. And so I think we're going to a government shutdown. But that's fine. That's fine. On the 1st of February, the President just said he's not going to send any more cash to these sanctuary cities. You've had this problem in Arizona where sanctuary cities, all of it. What's your recommendation to the President of the United States of what actually ought to happen here, sir?
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Sheriff Mack
Well, first of all, the sheriffs in those major cities, I mean, look at Chicago, it's Cook County. Sheriff Dart, is the sheriff there? He's been completely silent. And if the sheriffs in Portland and Los Angeles and Chicago and Minneapolis would stand up and say our job is to keep the peace and protect people from crime. Getting rid of criminals that were brought in during the Biden administration is what we're supposed to be doing. They should. These sheriffs should be showing a lot more leadership instead of standing on the sidelines. So I would recommend also most of the sheriffs in this country support Trump. And if I were Trump, I would right now, if I was sitting right next to him. In fact, I would love to help him with this. Invite the sheriffs of those areas and especially the surrounding counties to come to his office and come up with a game plan to help DHS and ice. I've already talked to Tom Holman about this several times and get these sheriffs on board. A lot of these sheriffs are already in 287G training. I've talked to these sheriffs. They want to help. And the states are now trying to go after the sheriff. We just got back from Washington State where the sheriffs are being sued, being attacked by their own governors and their own ags. AG Brown is suing Sheriff Wagner in Adams county because he's trying to help ICE get rid of criminals out of his county. And the AG is actually showing his lawlessness and his ignorance in going after the sheriff that's trying to go after criminals. And so I believe that.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Hang on a second. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. I want to. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. I want to make sure people understand this. I want to make sure I understand it. You're telling me in the great state of Washington, there's sheriffs up there that are supporting ice, which they're. They're sworn to do. They're supporting ICE and ICE going through their federal duties to extract these illegal alien invaders, and that the state attorney general is suing the sheriff?
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Sheriff Mack
Yes, that's exactly correct. 100% correct. And we just had. General Flynn and I were at a meeting there at a big rally, standing room only, at the Experience Church in Puyallup, right outside Tacoma. And the sheriffs are at a loss what to do. So we were trying to give them some direction and let them know they're doing the right thing. And Sheriff Bob Songer says, I don't care what the AG does. I'm going to continue to help ice. Sheriff Swank in Pierce county, second largest county in. In Washington State. Same thing. But Washington State is the worst state in the Union for destroying the office of sheriff, attacking the sheriff, and defending the criminals that invaded our country in the first place.
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Stephen K. Bannon
How can you. When you look at Washington, you look at Minneapolis, I mean, it's. No doubt it's chaos and anarchy because the people that are breaking the law, the illegal aliens here, but the Rachel Maddows of the world and all these people put the kids. They're using kids as human shields around the schools. I mean, what. What then is to be done? What can the sheriffs actually do when you have American citizens that are actively breaking the law and trying to instigate more violence, sir?
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Sheriff Mack
Well, the sheriffs and his deputy should be there with those ICE agents and they should be defending those ICE agents and working with them. The sheriff's office and the deputies should, should be clearing those streets for ICE and providing safety and security for. And backup for their fellow police officers from the federal government. Look, the Constitution clearly delegates to the federal government protecting our borders from invasion. And in Article 1, Section 8, the laws of Naturalization. And so of course, this is a federal issue and the states are trying to. Oh, it's unconstitutional. What's unconstitutional? Show me the provision in the Constitution that said that shows that ICE is outside the Constitution. You guys are crazy. You're liars. This is exactly what the. The problem that Biden dumped on everybody's lap and now these horrible blue states want to join in and do and double down on it. Can you believe that there are law enforcement officials doing this in Minneapolis and other states? I cannot believe it.
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Stephen K. Bannon
We got about a minute. Real quickly, what's your recommendation to the president about this conference you want to have or this group of sheriffs you want to go back to advise him? What would you recommend to the president? Because he'll see this clip.
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Sheriff Mack
I can give him the list of the sheriffs in these areas to get invited to the White House, get them on board, forward, send them back, and let's create peace and tranquility in these areas where you're seeing this mob violence supported by governors and mayors and others. And it's. It's unbelievable. Give me a happy.
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Stephen K. Bannon
What. What's your. What's your website? What's your social media? Where do people go get you?
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Sheriff Mack
Cspoa. Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association. There's our website. Call me, email me, please. Give me, give the president and his staff my number. I'll be happy to come help.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Sheriff Mack. We need you now more than ever, you and the constitutional sheriffs, because we're hurdling folks to a constitutional crisis. They all got to go. All 15 of 20 million of them. Got to go. Got to go. So Rachel Maddow and your crew suck on that baby. Short commercial break Philip Patrick's gonna be here. President Trump at the Detroit Economic Club moments ago gave a very powerful speech on the state of the economy. EJ And Tony's gonna be with us. Philip Patrick is going to be with us. Please stick around during the afternoon and early evening edition of the War Room.
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Do it today to revoke the citizenship of any naturalized immigrant from Somalia or anywhere else who is convicted of defrauding our citizens. We're going to get them the hell out of here fast. And if you come to America to rob Americans, we're throwing you in jail. And we're sending you back to the place from where you came. We're throwing you right in jail. As we liberate our country from this cultural scourge and the plague of corruption and fraud, we'll rediscover the natural energy and native spirit that truly makes America great again. Like we're doing with Detroit and Michigan. If we get rid of fraud and do our job properly on the trillions that are being extorted out of our country from corrupt and incompetent governors like Gavin Newscomb, J.B. pritzker and Tim Waltz, we will very soon have a balanced budget. And that's the kind of money that we're talking about. We're talking about massive amounts of money. Our country wasn't built by people who tried to lie and cheat and scam their way to success. It was built by legends like Henry Ford, Henry Dow, Thomas Edison, the Kellogg brothers, Alfred P. Sloan, the founder of General Motors. Men who lifted up American workers and strengthened our nation beyond even belief. And we're doing the same exact thing right now. I think we're doing it even better. This is the fierce spirit of patriotic free enterprise that we're now unleashing once again. We are unleashing it like maybe never before. Last week we announced that I'm creating a brand new division at the Department of Justice, a legal strike force led by a really tough, smart new attorney General for fraud. He's a fantastic young guy. He's so impassioned to do this properly, we intend to imprison any fraudster, politician or public official involved in these sick plots to loot and pillage our country. In addition, I proudly called for the credit card companies to cap interest rates at 10% for one year because they're getting 28 and 30% and 32% and it's unfair. The rates are way too high. As part of those efforts at Davos next week, I'm going to provide much more detail about our housing policies so that every American who wants to own a home will be able to afford one. We have some great things happening with housing as you know. You saw the $200 billion buy in on bonds and mortgages. This will include a ban on large institutional investors buying up single family homes all over the country and making it impossible for people to buy a home. And I've also announced that the US government is purchasing $200 billion of mortgage bonds to bring down mortgage rates. And it's had a huge impact. It's already started and just last week the average 30 year mortgage dropped below 6% for the first time in many years.
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December, read on. Consumer price index, we're expecting a headline number up 310 of a percent. And it delivered. That's exactly what we received, up 310 of a percent. Now if you look at the previous month in August it was up 4 10. September it was up 3 10. So this fits right in. If you look at ex food and energy known as core, on a month over month it's a tenth cooler than expected. It's up 2 10. Now if you look at year over year up 2.7 expected 2.7 arrives. The one glimmer here on the year over year is the core comes in a tenth lights expectations but the 2.6 level is where we've been. And my favorite numbers, and they really are my favorite numbers, Joe, if we look at the index, the index, on the non seasonally adjusted index, this started in 1913. The index number 324. And why is that important? Because once again it's a new all time high. Pretty much. Not all the time, but pretty much every month we get a new all time high 1913. And if you look at the 1957 rendition, which is the core CPI, it comes in at 331 and change. And of course that's also an all time, all time high.
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So Philip, Patrick, I've got you on to make this make sense to me. You know the President is now in a throwdown with the Chairman of the Federal Reserve. Looks like the markets are supporting the President. I mean, either ma or a little bit of turbulence in the bond market that, that settled out. Stock market yesterday, I think s and P500, all time high, did a little bit of retreat today, but, but not much. I mean, the markets are supporting him. You got this, I think excellent print or very good print on inflation today. And of course, President Trump's down there talking about how we're not going to keep spending on all these social programs. So they're obviously stealing the money. In addition, he's got populist economic, you know, he's breaking up the big banks. We got a cap insurance at 10%. I want to get affordability, I want to get mortgage rates down. And all of this gold is. Yes, I think gold's all time high yesterday, backed off a little bit today, basically near 4600. And of course, silver on fire at 86. Make it make sense for us, sir.
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Philip Patrick
That, that's a tough one. Listen, this is a, this is a crazy climate we're in. There's no question about it. I think President Trump today did a very good job highlighting the successes so far of his administration. He highlighted how capital investment has surged under Trump, how growth has accelerated without massive new entitlement spending. As we saw under the Biden administration, energy costs very importantly have stayed contained. That is a tax cut for working families. I think there's definitely a lot of work to do still. Right. Growth, although accelerating GDP numbers are strong. It's highly concentrated on the back of AI infrastructure and data centers. It's going to take time. That's capital intensive growth. It's not yet wage driven growth. So I think it's going to take time for people to start feeling that. But we're heading in the right direction. Trump needs the Federal Reserve to start playing ball. I know there's questions over Trump's pressure on the Fed and their independence. I think Scott Besant had a small freak out about that. Definitely the administration's not going to do anything to threaten the Fed's independence. I'm sure of that. The problem in my mind with the Federal Reserve.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Holy, holy. Philip, Philip. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, brother. Trump's gone full Andrew Jackson. He has a criminal investigation underway because of the cost overruns. And quite frankly, Powell's given some not great testimony in front of Congress. He's gone full Andrew Jackson. These guys and the Lords of Easy Money, I mean, Jamie Dimon and all these guys may have a problem. Oh, you Know, they sit there and they knit their brow and they're saying, you know, we need an independent Fed. Well, the money got the stock market hit an all time high yesterday and the bond market's no real turbulence. I mean, isn't the money, the money gets a vote here. Isn't the money saying, we're fine with Trump, independence is overrated. Cuz Trump's making us so much money, the economy's turned around under Biden is about to collapse, that the guys running the economy making us so much money, if he wants to take on all the Fed chairs, cuz all the Fed chairs and the U.S. senate, the banking Committee and all those guys are all sitting there going, trump's the worst. We need an independent Fed. The money's not telling me that, is it?
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Philip Patrick
Listen, not dramatic. Look at what happened in France and the uk. The bond markets are not revolting in that respect. You're absolutely correct. Flip side, though, we've had five rate cuts in the last two years. Borrowing rates have stayed fairly firm. In a normal climate, rate should have declined. So, yes, bond markets aren't freaking out yet. They're certainly happy with the direction Trump's heading. But Scott Besant's reaction, you know more than me, I'm getting this from the Daily Mail. There's people within the administration trying to calm this down a little bit because I think if it goes too far, we may start.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I think it should be. It should be noted that there wasn't a lot about power in today's speech. And Scott Besson did fly on Air Force One out there with President Trump. But so make this make sense to me. We've got, I think, a carrier strike group somewhere in the Straits of Malacca hurting toward the North Arabian Sea. All the discussion tonight is going to strike Iran. And I think if he had a target set that said, hey, bang, you drop one there in the Ayatollah Falls, he may might, you know, he may think about that. But I'm not so sure that target set, we keep saying, just keep the economic pressure on. This thing is collapsing. You've got Greenland, the Danes are getting ready to send some special operators to Greenland. You've got, obviously the situation in Venezuela is the geopolitics like, why is gold on fire and why is silver on fire when you've got these other markets that are not really in horrible turmoil because of President Trump's challenge? Just like Andrew Jackson, like Andrew Jackson said, hey, we don't need a central bank, but if we got it, the people are going to Control it, not the bankers. And I think Trump's saying the same thing. Why is gold and silver on fire? Sir.
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Philip Patrick
Listen, there's so many forces driving it. We've got inflation, we've got de dollarization, we've got geopolitical instability. It's like the perfect storm for physical, precious metals that we're seeing. By the way, I want to say something on foreign policy. It's interesting. There is a world where things land right. We have a free Iran. We have a peacekeeping force in Gaza. This could be some absolute genius. We'll see how it plays out. That this is interesting times we're living in. I think putting economic pressure on the Iranians. It's 25% tariff for anybody doing business with Iran. That's probably the smartest thing to do at the moment. But interesting times for sure. And I think gold will continue to thrive in these climates.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I tell you what, Philip, can you just hang on for one second? I just want to hold you through the break. EJ And Tony is going to join us. Philip Patrick is with us. Make sure you want to talk to Filip Patrick. There's a couple of ways to do it. By the way, in the box, we're going to put the box of the President of the United States getting out of the helicopter. He's going to be heading back to D.C. i think he's getting a big national security briefing this evening when he arrives. So everybody's on tenterhooks about this situation in Iran where the Persians are in the streets trying to overthrow the Islamic Republic. They've done such a great job in the last, what, 46 or 47 years. People are so thrilled. They're in the streets and there's report today maybe 10,000 or 20,000 dead. I mean, there's a report that the slaughter could be a lot bigger. President's trying to weigh more economic pressure. Burch Gold. Take your phone. A couple ways to get to him. Take your phone out. Text Bannon B A N N O N 989898. You get the ultimate guide, which is totally free and no obligation of investing in gold and precious metals. Don't forget silver in the age of Trump. And you can get right to Philip Patrick with doing that. Also. The end of the dollar empire. Go to Birch Gold. Promo code Bannon. Enter the dollar empire. Now. You have a physical copy of it. We actually made it into a book. You can get a signed edition of that, signed by me with a qualifying purchase. Go to Birch Gold right now. Check it out. But Most importantly, get to Philip Patrick and his team. That's who you need to talk to. Short commercial Commercial break Philip Patrick, jordan's EJ and Tony on the other side. If you're a homeowner, you need to listen to this, so listen up. In today's artificial intelligence and cyber world, scammers are stealing home titles with more ease than ever. And your equity, the equity in your home, your life savings is, is the target. Now here's how it works. Criminals forge your signature on one document, use a fake notary stamp, pay a small fee with your county and boom, your home title has been transferred out of your name. Then they take out loans using your equity or even selling your property. You won't even know it's happened until you get a collection or foreclosure notice. So let me ask you, when was the last time you checked your home title? If you're like me, the answer is never. And that's exactly what scammers are counting on. That's why I trust Home Title lock. Before I met them, I never checked on this. Now I'm safe and now I'm secure. Use promo code steveometitlec.com to make sure your title is still in your name. You'll also get a free title history report plus a free 14 day trial of their 1 million dollar triple lock protection. That's 247 monitoring of your title, urgent alerts to any changes, any in a fraud should happen. They'll spend up to $1 million to fix it. Go to home title lock.com now. Use promo code Steve. That's hometitlelock.com promo code Steve. Do it today. Do it now.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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The great Scott Adams passed away this morning. Gave his life to Christ at the, at the end of his life. Just got word, came across the wire. I'm trying to check this out because I think he's part of the Trump administration. I thought he was an ambassador. Former Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich has passed away. We'll get more details on that. Remember, Mark was on the show many times during the big steal in 2020, trying to find out what the hell went on there, get to the bottom of it. And I think he was potentially going to run for governor or the Senate. He was really a rising star in the Republican Party. So we'll get more on that as soon as we get it. E.J. antoni joins us. E.J. talk to me about the numbers you saw this morning, the print on inflation because treasury is talking about A disinflationary boom that's coming. We're just getting traction now on the, on the supply side, part of the big beautiful bill. Plus, unless the Supreme Court upends it tomorrow, which may be a possibility, the commercial relationships of the world are changed because of tariffs and trade, and it's acting as a forcing function to bring capital investment back here. But it doesn't look like it's causing inflation. What's your analysis of the math?
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E.J. Antoni
Well, Steve, thanks for having me. Real quick on tariffs, the Supreme Court has a lot of different ways they could go here, not the least of which, which my sources are telling me is a growing possibility among the justices, is that they may decide to essentially say that the IPA tariffs are unconstitutional, but for the sake of not causing chaos, they may allow existing ones to stand and just not allow future ones. So that means new tariffs would have to be implemented with things like section 232, for example. So the President still has a lot of tools in the toolkit, so to speak. It's not as if he will be down and out if the ruling doesn't go his way to one degree or another. Now, in terms of the math that we just got today, both the numbers out of the treasury and the numbers out of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, we're pretty darn good overall. Not great, but good. In other words, we're heading in the right direction. We are continuing to see a general disinflation trend and by the way, core goods, a category which was supposed to explode in terms of prices because of tariffs. It hasn't. In fact, in the last month, not only was the annual rate low, but the month over month rate was actually slightly negative, a fraction of a percent. So instead of seeing costs explode, here we are seeing the cost of tariffs not passed on to consumers by and large, but mostly eaten by foreign exporters and middlemen, which is a great thing for the American consumer because those customs duties in the first three months of this fiscal year, treasury just told us this afternoon, is up to $90 billion. For context, in the previous fiscal year, when we still had Biden in office, that same category of revenue, these customs duties, the income coming in from tariffs, was only $20 billion. So fourfold increase there, really tremendous progress. This is helping reduce the deficit, which is significantly lower right now than it was this time a year ago. And again, coming back to these inflation numbers that we're seeing at the consumer level, not only has inflation cooled, but wage growth has not. That means paychecks are continuing to get Bigger and more importantly, they buy more than they did a year ago. They buy more than they did when Trump took office. In fact, the average American's weekly paycheck, Steve, buys about one and a half percent more now than it did when Trump took office. Conversely, under Biden, that average weekly paycheck shrunk, at least in terms of what it could buy, by about 4%. So that tells you two things. One, we are course correcting, we are heading in the right direction. The boom that Scott Besant keeps talking about has already begun and it's going to continue. But it also tells us that we haven't yet undone all of that damage from the Biden administration. And I think that's how you square the circle of how can the economy be improving so much while so many people still feel dissatisfied? We are still dealing with the hangover from the Biden years.
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Stephen K. Bannon
And we're going to have to take care of that. Number one, as I said, when people came out after the elections in November, oh my God, it's about affordability. And they all fell into the trap of saying affordability. There were tweets out there saying November 26th, I said, Whoa, whoa, whoa, calm down, you've got a plan, you've executed the plan, you're going to drive the plan. And that's both the supply side tax cut and the trade and the commerce. They're driving to a point. Just focus on growth, jobs and wages and real wages. If you do that, it's all going to work out. You can see it coming right now. And look at the trade deficit. I think we had the lowest trade deficit since 2009. Exports up 30%, imports down 30%, President Trump, it's kicking in right now. The question I have for you, hadn't all the experts that from Liberation Day all the way till it started kicking in in July, just over and over on MSNBC every night, oh, it's going to blow up. His trade policies are so terrible and they're going to cause this massive inflation. They're going to wipe out the working class. The trade policies are done to build a robust middle class and working class. And the experts completely whiffed on the inflation part of this. Why did they miss so badly? E.J.
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E.J. Antoni
Steve, because these so called experts, they're not experts in fields like economics, they're experts in politics. They say what they think will sound good. They say what they think will sell books or appeal to politicians, whatever the case may be. Look, at the end of the day, the same people who have been Ragging on President Trump and his policies were the exact same folks cheerleading for Biden and were dead wrong about inflation being transitory. Remember that one? And they also are the same folks who were wrong during the first Trump administration. You know, guys like Paul Krugman. After Trump was elected in the first term, he told everybody, look, I've sold my stocks and everyone else should too, because Trump's going to crash the market. What happened? The market took off, hit record high after record high. Exactly what it's doing this time around. Paul Krugman was one of the cheerleaders under Biden who said, inflation's transitory. There's nothing to worry about, nothing to see here. And then when we had inflation, he told people, oh, it's just all in your head. It's not a problem. And then inflation was somehow good for you. I mean, these people are liars, Steve. They are always in wrong, but never in doubt. Because for them, it's not about the facts. It's not about the numbers. It's not about reality. It's just about the politics.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Just go back. I've been following your Twitter feed. Just go back, take a minute or two. What you just said about people. Actually, there's more on a real basis, there's more money in their pocket. The prices are a little bit down. They're feeling now for the first time that they're able to buy more. And that's going to continue. If you look in front of us with GDP growth and GDP growth is over 5% for the private sector, you know, it used to be great coming in here all the time talking about, hey, when Biden's talking about growth, it's all of this massive government spending. If you take that out, we're worse than a recession. We're in a depression. That's changed now. The Atlanta Fed saying, I think the private side, not the government side, private side, GDP is going to be like 5%. Walk me through how that gets down to the individual. How can they actually feel it in their paycheck and around the dinner table?
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E.J. Antoni
Well, Steve, one of the biggest things is that as the government is spending and borrowing and printing less money, it means less inflation. It means you don't have to worry about the raise that you just got being eaten away by higher prices. And that's why earlier we mentioned paychecks. It's not just that paychecks are bigger, it's that they buy more. That's the real kicker. That's what we want to see. It's that wages have to rise faster than prices. That's not what happened under Biden, but it is what's happening under Trump. And as we start seeing effects of the big beautiful bill kick in, like the full expensing, these different tax cut provisions, as people change their withholdings and they get bigger refunds and they keep more of their, they have more take home pay essentially because less is getting removed in taxes with each check. All of these things are going to help increase consumer spending, it's going to increase business investment. This means faster wage growth. It means more people getting hired. And this capex boom that the treasury secretary has talked about repeatedly means more productivity growth, which by the way, we're already seeing the latest productivity numbers are just going gangbusters. It's looking great. And that means again, it means faster wage increases for people. It means more take home pay, more consumer spending. And this is where you get into the opposite of a downward spiral, an upward spiral where this starts feeding on itself in a positive way and we start getting that positive feedback loop and you get real private sector growth. And not just like you were saying, Steve, under Biden where it was government spending, goosing the numbers, but this is real, genuine growth and that's what makes people better off, that's what increases people's standard of living.
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Stephen K. Bannon
E.J. and Tony, once again, you're spectacular. But walking through the math, where do people go find you particularly that Twitter feed is on fire. Where do folks go?
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E.J. Antoni
Well, that's going to be the best place to find me, Steve. And the handle there is ealejantony.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Brother, thank you so much. Appreciate you.
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E.J. Antoni
Thank you.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Philip Patrick, how do people thank you, brother Philip Patrick, I want people to get directly in contact with you and your team now more than ever. You called this shot when we first started on this journey, what, four or five years ago, gold was at a thousand. Silver wasn't even, you know, representing. And now silver's I think at 86 bucks. It's one and a half times the barrel of oil. You've got gold at 4, 600. I don't know. It's not the price, it's the process of how value is driven in physical gold and silver. Where do people go to get to you, Philip Patrick, and have a chat?
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Philip Patrick
It's very simple. It's. And everyone should know this now it's birchgold.com forward/bannon again, birchgold.com forward slash bannon. That will get them access to a lot of free information. How and why to invest in gold under a Trump administration, Certainly heading into 2026, there's a lot to look forward to. There's a lot to be cautious of, and I think that will cover that. It'll also get them access to the end of the Dollar Empire reports and book. And I think for those who are purchasing in January, they get a signed copy. I don't even have a signed copy of that book. So, you know, it's a good one.
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Stephen K. Bannon
You got to do it. You got to, you got to, you got, you got to do a purchase that I sign off.
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Philip Patrick
I know.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Do it. Do a qualifying purchase. You're going to get a sign. You're going to get a signed edition from yours truly. Philip Patrick, we're very proud of that.
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Philip Patrick
Yeah, thank you. Thank you for that.
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Stephen K. Bannon
We're very proud of it as well.
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Philip Patrick
989-898. Thanks, Steve.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, Take your phone out and just text Bannon. It's no obligations. Totally free for the Ultimate Guide. It's kind of shorter than the Dollar Empire. We're trying to teach you the whole thing here. They're just trying to talk to you about gold, IRAs, 401ks, all the methodologies, but it's great. It's no obligation. It's totally free. The ultimate guide for Investing in Gold in Silver or Precious Metals in the Age of Trump. Philip Patrick, thank you so much, folks. Take advantage of all the information Birch Gold puts out to help you on your financial planning. Cleo Pascal, our favorite everything strategy in the Pacific Ocean, pulling hard duty at the Honolulu Defense Conference. You know, Honolulu, Hawaii, oahu in the 1930s was called the Gibraltar of the Pacific. Up until Pearl harbor, it was thought to be impregnable. It's so important for your strategy. And our strategy of the Central Pacific as the new what is it as the heartland is on the Eurasian landmass that Mackinder made famous. Cleopascal has made the Central Pacific. What's happening? You got a minute? Tell me what's happened to the defense forum. I'll hold you through the break, ma'.
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Sheriff Mack
Am.
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Cleo Pascal
So I think that the message is finally getting through because one of the keynote speakers was the president of Palau, which is one of the three U.S. freely associated states who is here to talk about what's been going on in the Central Pacific. And he's from a country that recognizes Taiwan. So he's been on the front line of the Chinese political warfare operations. And I think they're starting to understand we need to secure the center of the Pacific, not just through kinetic but through political Warfare and some of the solutions are being discussed here.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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So Cleo Pascal, there may be a strike in Iran tonight. Obviously the non interventionists are saying economically, you know, Scott Besson gave this speech in March about how the Trump administration put the screws of sanctions and go after their currency. And they've done a magnificent job. This is why you've seen all the riots in the streets. This is why we argued against a decapitation hit during the 12 day war. You don't need that. You don't need America. If you break it, you own it. We don't need to break it. We're breaking it right now with the people of Persia. They're the ones in the streets. Of course there may be a strike tonight, particularly if there's a target set. You never know. President's going to look at all alternatives. But there's a carrier battle group I think is going to maybe assist in that taking it out of the South China Sea. The folks there at this Honolulu defense conference, did they buy into your theory of the case and the world's theory of the case that the Central Pacific is the strategic pivot of the Western Hemisphere in America's homeland defense, of which President Trump is from Greenland to the Arctic to the Panama Canal to South America. We bailed out Argentina and they paid us back already. They paid the two and a half billion dollars from the 20 billion line we gave them. They drew down two and a half. We paid it back. I think we made 50 to $100 million or something. And see in Venezuela we snatched the bad guy and kind of told the regime, you got to do the following. And we're going to control the oil there and maybe even Guyana, maybe the Gulf of America added to Texas. We're like to the 10th power. We don't need the Gulf Emirates anymore. We don't need Saudi Arabia, we don't need Qatar, don't need uae, don't need any of it. We got ourselves have people there bought off on the fact that that conference you're sitting at is so important because the strategic center of our country happens to be in that vast ocean right in back of you, ma'.
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Sheriff Mack
Am.
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Cleo Pascal
Yes, I think it's starting. So as mentioned, the only head of state that they have speaking here is the president of Palau, which is. Right. That's the battle of Peleliu. This is a lot of Americans died for Palau to become independent. But the, the challenge is that you have to travel from here in Honolulu eight hours west to get to more of the United States in Guam and the CNMI area. And that's when Admiral Paparo was speaking at the opening session and he was asked how important the Indo Pacific is in the context of hemispheric defense. He didn't mention that the US Is in Asia. The US Is on the front line of Asia. And if you can't secure the center of the Pacific, you can't secure those Americans sitting way out on the front line and they're not there accidentally. This goes back to McKinley who said, President McKinley, who said during the Spanish American War, unless that perimeter is secure, then Oregon and California aren't safe. And then we learned during World War II, if the center of the Pacific isn't secured, then the US Isn't safe because that's where the Japanese staged from for over 30 years. So we're starting to see some recognition and we're also starting to see exactly what the rest of this hour has been about, which is the confluence of political warfare and economic warfare. So you're seeing new levers coming into play. And again in Palau, I think we're starting to see the first roots of a new form of strategic foreign policy. They signed a deal with the US on December 23rd where the US will be able to send up to 75 deportees to Palau. That was the headline.
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Stephen K. Bannon
But.
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Cleo Pascal
But underneath that headline, the US Is agreeing to send to Palau on the ground law enforcement personnel, cyber personnel, customs, immigration, people who can actually do the counter Chinese political warfare operations. Specifically, they're going after Chinese corruption and Chinese organized crime in Palau to try to liberate it from that ground level political warfare grip. Because when you see those demonstrations happening in places like Minnesota and you start to track the money, you can see that not all of it is coming from Americans. And even more so because the Chinese have realized how important the center of the Pacific is to the US They've been doing the same sort of thing there. So you need to, along with selling the missiles, you need to have the law enforcement intelligence sharing in order to be able to go after the sort of destabilization you have on the ground. And there's been one good win that happened in the last 24 hours, which is we've covered extensively what happened in Saipan with the Chinese casino. ICE has finally arrested the Chinese woman that was heavily involved in setting up that casino. Now it's a good start, but Chinese can still arrive in Saipan, in the United States of America without a visa. That has to stop.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Ice always gets her man. Cleo, where do people follow you on this trip? We're going to try to have you back on tomorrow or the next day. Where do people go to get you?
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Cleo Pascal
Thank you. You can go on X. And I would just like to quickly say we're talking about public private partnerships. I think you have to have much more involvement of faith communities and missionaries in the because they're the ones that can really fight the Chinese. They're the ones that scare the Chinese on the ground. They don't do normal economics and they can change the balance of power in the region in a way that is the fundamental good versus evil, which is what this fight is actually about.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I will set you up to talk to a bunch of them. Claire Pascal. Cleo Pascal, you're the best. Look forward to having you back on.
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Cleo Pascal
Thank you, sir.
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Stephen K. Bannon
The Central Pacific as the strategic pivot of the United States of America. Trevor Comstock, Mike Lindell's at a debate today with I think 12 people, a huge debate put on by one of the Big Alpha News, one of the great news services in Minnesota. The floor is yours, sir. You got new products. I want people to know the new products. Where do they go? How do they get access to you? Because you're a founder, CEO. That is on fire, sir.
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Trevor Comstock
Yeah. Great to see you, Steve. Appreciate you having me. So, yeah, as you had mentioned, I'm super excited to announce that we did just launch our newest product, which is our Sacred Heel Healing Salve. And it is handmade in small batches with organic ingredients. And of course, like all of our other products, there's no artificial additives or any unnatural ingredients within it. So just a little background on it. What really makes the remedy so effective is due to the organic comfrey, which is the main ingredient. And comfrey has been used for centuries to support things like pain relief, inflammation, bruising, and even tissue repair. So it essentially helps your body actually repair and recover as opposed to just masking the discomfort. So in terms of use cases, a lot of people love to use it for things like sore muscles, joint pain, sprains, swelling, as well as arthritis support. So it's like a balm. So you just put a little bit on your finger and you can rub it into any area of your body that needs to. That needs relief. And then we also paired the comfrey with other nourishing herbs that help support things like cuts, scrapes, burns, as well as insect bites. So it's an incredibly powerful and versatile product. And again, as I mentioned, it's just amazing for things like muscle recovery. If you have joint stiffness, it works great in that scenario. If you have bruises, it brings down bruising quite a bit. And also like the itching and minor cuts as I had mentioned. And of course, a little bit goes a long way, so you don't need a ton of it. And if you do want to compare it to other, you know, pain creams on the market or any other pain creams that are maybe petroleum and synthetic based, this is just a clean and organic alternative design to help support actual healing.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Where do they go? Yeah, where they go right now to get in contact with you? Where they go?
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Trevor Comstock
Yeah, yeah. So you can go to sacredhumanhealth.com or just type in sacred human to Google and then always use code war room for 10 off and let us know if you have any questions.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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