Podcast Summary

Bannon’s War Room – Episode 5070

Airdate: January 15, 2026
Episode Title: President Trump Pushes Idea Of Using Insurrection Act
Host: Steve Bannon
Notable Guests: Chip Roy, Dave Brat, David Hoke, Terry Schilling, Chris Hoare, Javier Negre, Natalie Dominguez

Episode Overview

This high-intensity episode focuses on the escalating political and security crises in the U.S.—particularly around immigration, alleged fraud in Minnesota, and President Trump’s push to invoke the Insurrection Act. Host Steve Bannon and guests debate the best path forward amidst what they describe as a "civil war" between American values and forces they see as undermining the nation from within. The episode covers the alleged misuse of public funds, failed government oversight, cyber vulnerabilities, declining family formation, and urgent calls for political action from the MAGA right.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Immigration, Texas & Fraud Allegations (00:44–04:14)

• Guest: Chip Roy (Running for Attorney General, Texas)
  • Roy’s Mission: As AG, he pledges to root out financial fraud, particularly by nonprofits receiving state and federal funds. He frames current challenges as part of the "Islamification" of Texas led by external enemies (01:41).
  • Quote: “We’re at war and the Islamification of Texas is the goal of the enemy...We’re going to know where every dollar goes and how it is flowing to our enemies, and we’re going to stop it.” (Chip Roy, 01:41)
  • He emphasizes working with the Trump administration to remove or incarcerate perceived threats, promising relentless vigilance.
  • Legislative Updates: Highlights recent efforts against amendments by Ilhan Omar and National Endowment for Democracy funding. Describes a “fight every single day” in Congress (02:58).

2. Broader Political Strategy and Republican Weakness (04:14–07:33)

• Guest: Dave Brat (Former Congressman)
  • E-Verify Solution: Suggests universal E-Verify would disrupt incentives for illegal immigration and force the GOP's hand, but many Republicans resist due to economic interests in cheap labor (05:08).
  • Broken Business Model: Criticizes ongoing high federal spending and “socialist” economic policies perpetuated by both parties.
  • Frustration with Moderates: Explains why the party’s moderate wing stymies more aggressive reforms.

3. Media, Presidential Powers, and the Insurrection Act (07:33–11:45)

• Media Complicity: Bannon and guests claim mainstream media both enables and benefits from systemic abuses—calling the current conflict a test of national will and identity.
  • Quote: "They want the problem... They’re sitting there and saying, you don’t have the right." (Steve Bannon, 07:37)
• Presidential Powers:
  • Bannon emphasizes the scope of Article II, highlighting the President’s authority to fire agency heads, cut funding, and, crucially, invoke the Insurrection Act if national security is threatened.
  • Quote: “He’s also the commander in chief...the biggest threat...ain’t in Tehran...it’s in New York City with Mondami...If he believes there’s a threat on the national security...invoke the Insurrection Act.” (Steve Bannon, 08:31)
  • The conversation is laced with war rhetoric, likening Trump’s leadership to Lincoln and Washington in their moments of national crisis.

4. Alleged Fraud in Minnesota — On-the-Ground Reporting (20:56–25:59)

• Guests: Dave Brat, David Hoke, Nick Shirley (via video clip)
  • Exposing Fraud: Field reporting from Minnesota uncovers what the team claims are fraudulent businesses siphoning taxpayer money via nonprofit status and fake addresses.
  • Memorable Moment: Dave Brat and David Hoke visit a listed address for “Safari Transportation,” find no sign of the business, and declare it evidence of systemic fraud. (21:03–22:03)
  • Hoke’s Personal Risk: Describes wearing body armor, receiving threats, and having no official protection.
  • Quote: “We are going through the Civil War right now. But it’s magnified because this is a battle between good and evil.” (David Hoke, 24:34)
  • Hoke’s Recommendation: Calls for cutting off all federal funding to Minnesota—then, if necessary, using the Insurrection Act (26:55).

5. Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Vulnerability (16:29–20:31)

• Guest: Chris Hoare (sat123.com)
  • Reports on a major Verizon outage, speculates on possible cyber attacks as acts of modern warfare, and advocates for satellite phones and network backups.
  • Quote: “This points to a potential cyber attack...This is just the latest in a long list of recent massive outages.” (Chris Hoare, 17:12)
  • Discusses adversaries (China, Iran, North Korea) and “shock troops” of cyberwarfare.

6. Government Funding, Insurrection Act, and Next Steps (32:43–34:42)

• Guest: Dave Brat
  • Endorses taking hard lines: no government shutdown, cut all "illegal" funding, and be ready to invoke the Insurrection Act if “rebellion” or obstruction of federal authority continues.
  • Quote: “The Insurrection Act allows use of federal...military officials...The other side’s in your face...The American people at the end of the day are decent folks, and they’ll vote the right way.” (Dave Brat, 32:43)

7. Family Formation and Fertility Crisis (36:05–43:18)

• Guest: Terry Schilling (American Principles Project)
  • Discusses Supreme Court cases on transgender athletes, declining fertility, and attacks the legacy of government “family planning” policies as outdated and destructive.
  • Solutions Proposed: Expanding child tax credits, ending subsidies for contraception, and cultural campaigns to revive marriage and fatherhood.
  • Quote: “We need to get back to the traditional routes. We need families, moms and dads, a married man and a married woman having kids. That’s the only way to really solve this.” (Terry Schilling, 41:30)

8. Security, Home Ownership, and Fraud Prevention (46:19–49:24)

• Guest: Natalie Dominguez (Home Title Lock)
  • Details a case of home title theft, warns homeowners about vulnerabilities from cyber and legal fraud, and promotes title monitoring solutions.

9. International Perspective — Venezuela & The White House (49:46–52:04)

• Guest: Javier Negre (White House correspondent, Rav Hispaniol)
  • Reports on Trump’s diplomatic moves regarding Venezuela and internal controversies about which opposition figures to support, giving a snapshot of Trump’s international strategizing.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Steve Bannon: "This is the primal scream of a dying regime... I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you’re not going to stop it." (00:02)
• Chip Roy: "When I'm the attorney General, we're going to know where every dollar goes and how it is flowing to our enemies and we're going to stop it..." (01:41)
• Dave Brat: "E-Verify...would scare Lemon daylights out of 2/3 of the Republicans." (05:08)
• Bannon (on presidential power): "You invoke the Insurrection Act and then have the prosecutors and... take them to trial right away... Boom, you’re gone." (09:31)
• David Hoke: "We're in a... the only other time in American history... is the Civil War. We are going through the Civil War right now. But it's magnified because this is a battle between good and evil." (24:34)
• Terry Schilling: "We need to get back to the traditional routes. We need families, moms and dads, a married man and a married woman having kids. That’s the only way to really solve this." (41:30)

Important Timestamps

• 00:44–04:14 – Chip Roy details Texas AG campaign, anti-fraud plans, and need for vigilance.
• 04:14–07:33 – Dave Brat critiques GOP reluctance, E-Verify, and spending patterns.
• 07:33–11:45 – Discussion of media complicity, presidential authority, justification for invoking the Insurrection Act.
• 20:56–25:59 – In-depth Minnesota fraud exposé with Dave Brat & David Hoke (Safari Transportation case).
• 26:55–27:37 – David Hoke on cutting off Minnesota funding and supporting the Insurrection Act.
• 32:43–34:42 – Dave Brat on sticking to principle and using Insurrection Act tools.
• 36:05–43:18 – Terry Schilling on crisis of family and fertility, solutions offered.
• 49:46–52:04 – Javier Negre live from the White House on Venezuela diplomacy.

Episode Tone

• Defiant, Aggressive, Alarmist: The language is unabashedly combative throughout—Bannon and guests repeatedly refer to the present as "war," implying existential stakes for the country. There is frequent use of martial analogies, accusations of enemy infiltration, and calls to “go medieval” or take "rough Roman justice."
• Populist/Patriot Framing: Much is made of “the people” fighting a corrupt elite—whether in Congress, media, nonprofit sector, or global business.

Conclusion

This episode serves as both a rallying cry for the MAGA base and a forum for discussing radical policy solutions centered on security (immigration, fraud, cyber), the exercise of presidential authority, and social renewal. The show blends on-the-ground investigative claims, urgent legislative demands, and calls to arms around a vision of American restoration through hardline action and familial revival.

For listeners seeking to understand the War Room's worldview in early 2026, this episode offers an unfiltered window into its strategies, grievances, and battle plan—capped by repeated endorsement of President Trump’s readiness to invoke the Insurrection Act to “save the republic.”