
Episode 5071: Victory Through Tariffs; On The Ground In Minnesota ...
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Madison Sheehan
President Trump threatened invoking the Insurrection act.
Sheila Matthews
Today in the Truth Social Post.
Stephen K. Bannon
I'm wondering what his tipping point is.
Madison Sheehan
Like, what would it take for him.
Stephen K. Bannon
To invoke the Insurrection Act?
White House Official
Look, that's only a question, frankly, Reagan, the president can answer, but the Insurrection act is a tool at the President's disposal. As you know, it has been used sparingly, but it has been used by previous presidents in American history. And I think the President's Truth Social Post spoke very loud and clear to Democrats across this country. Elected officials who are using their platforms to encourage violence against federal law enforcement officers, who are encouraging left wing agitators to unlawfully obstruct legitimate law enforcement operations. And if you talk to any law enforcement officer, no matter what level they work at, they want to be working with their counterparts, whether that's at the federal level or, or the federal authorities wanting to work with their counterparts at the state and local level. And it's truly shameful that now, for more than a year, you've had elected Democrat governors and mayors who have basically held their state and local law enforcement hostage and told them you cannot cooperate with federal law enforcement. Why they cooperated under the Biden administration, it's because these Democrats are deranged in their hatred for President Trump and they are holding their state and local law enforcement hostage as a result. And these Democrat mayors and governors are doing this over what? Over the, over the lawful and legitimate law enforcement operations to remove violent criminals from the streets of Minnesota, from the streets of California, from the streets of New York, and from the streets of every state across this country. And you don't see these, these riots and these, this vandalism taking place in states like Florida. Why? Because you have a governor in that state who has empowered federal and local authorities to work together. And it's despicable what we're seeing from these Democrat politicians, especially in sanctuary states and cities across the country.
Stephen K. Bannon
On top of it, the administration appears to want more confrontation, not less, saying.
Sheila Matthews
ICE agents have absolute immunity, calling demonstrators domestic terrorists and accusing the governor and.
Stephen K. Bannon
The mayor of encouraging violence against law enforcement. Quote, waltz in, Frank, I'm focused on stopping you from your terrorism by whatever means necessary. That's what Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche said on X, adding that this is not a threat, it's a promise. And we must, finally, we must, we must reform ice. But it looks at this stage, folks, ICE is beyond reform. ICE is totally out of control. And this week I intend to introduce a bill to abolish ICE. We need to make ICE go away. 2003 Before 2003, without ICE, various federal agencies were able to take care of business. And we can do this without ice.
Jack Posobec
But we do not need the murderers.
Stephen K. Bannon
We do not need this Paramilitary organizations members on our street. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Jack Posobec
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
Stephen K. Bannon
It's Thursday the 15th of January in the year of our Lord 2026. Thank you for coming back and joining the late afternoon, early evening edition of the Worm. Of course, at 6 o' clock on Monday, Tuesdays and Thursdays. Now, at least until February, we're going to try to go five days a week. Then we have the War Room, Texas as we focus on the issues about the Islamic takeover of Texas and what's being done to confront that and roll it back. Leading up to the March 3rd primary where Proposition 10 banning Sharia law in Texas is on the ballot. The brothers Posobec joined me, Kevin Posobec last night in the heat of the action in Minneapolis. We streamed everything last night. Huge audience and people very intense on this and focus. Jack Basovi is going to co host right Shotgun with me. Sheila Mathis is going to join us. We're going to also go to the back to the White House. We got Neil McCabe and Brian Glenn. Their big activity today, particularly around the opposition leader bringing her Nobel Prize, her Nobel medal to the White House. And we'll find out. We'll answer the question, did she leave it? Was it accepted? But first, I'm so honored. Madison Sheehan. Madison was deputy number two over at ice. Just announced she's stepping down to run for Congress in Ohio. Nine against Marcy Kaptra. Boy, we have focused on that seat for many, many years. Madison, first off, as your deputy in ice, just give us your assessment. How is ice? I mean, we're obviously in the war room. We're huge supporters of ice. We covered Everything. Last night, we did the whole first hour of the show on the activities of this insurrection that's going on. We're big advocates for President Trump, number one, to invoke the Insurrection Act. And also on the 1st of February, stopped giving federal money to random states like California, Illinois, New York and Minnesota. Give us your assessment of how did the institution do while you were there, ma'.
Madison Sheehan
Am. Well, look, the men and women of ICE are the bravest law enforcement agents in the country. They go out every single day and remove rapists, murderers, and gang members. While I was at ICE, we had the opportunity to go from 20,000 employees to over 30,000 law enforcement enforcement officers that go out and enforce the law, and they enforce the law that was written by Congress. The same law that Marcy Kaptor wrote in the 90s is what law, law enforcement officers at ICE are enforcing today. And that's why I want to go beat Marcy Kaptor in the Ohio 9th District because she continues to use this dangerous rhetoric against ICE officers who go out every day and do their jobs when she voted for the very laws that they're enforcing. And ICE has been so successful, thanks to the leadership of President Trump and Secretary Noem, and allowed our officers to go out and do their jobs.
Stephen K. Bannon
You've got a lot of fans, obviously here. Bovino, what you guys have been doing, Homan, Kristi Noem, the whole crowd, no back down. But we are. We have a thin bench. Do you think it's the best use of your obviously extraordinary capabilities to actually be in the line of fire with ICE or to go into the line of fire in Congress?
Madison Sheehan
Ma', am, what I know is President Trump needs fighters in Congress. He needs people who can work towards this agenda that he's put together that 77 millions of Americans voted on. And I'm going to go to Congress to fight for him in that capacity. It's been an honor to serve President Trump as the Deputy Director of ice. But going to Congress allows us to pass the laws that President Trump needs to continue to make America great, make America more prosperous. Prosperous. It allows us to continue to move forward as a nation to pursue the America first agenda.
Stephen K. Bannon
With the ICE agents. And I know you're bringing people in and train them up. If you had to take a vote just of ICE right now, the leadership and below, would they recommend to the President that he invoke the Insurrection act or they still think, hey, let's give this a while to play out?
Madison Sheehan
Well, look, President Trump is a. Understands these issues better than anyone. He understands exactly what the United States needs for us to be able to be successful and allow our officers to do our jobs. But at the end of the day, this is a problem with governors like Governor Tim Walz and the mayor of Minneapolis who continue to use this dangerous rhetoric that puts law enforcement officers at risk. These officers go out every single day to enforce the law as it's written to. We don't get to pick winners and losers. We continue to go out and remove gang members, murderers and rapists. And President Trump has great judgment on being able to support these law enforcement officers like he has his entire career.
Stephen K. Bannon
Can you tell people give us a little bit of your background? We get a few minutes here. Your background. What are people in Ohio 9. Who are they voting for?
Madison Sheehan
Absolutely. Well, I grew up in Northwest Ohio. I grew up on a small family farm here. Went to the Ohio State University and was a college athlete. Had the opportunity to work for Governor Kristi Noem in South Dakota. And then I went to Louisiana and served as a cabinet secretary for Wildlife and fisheries for Governor Landry, overseeing both law enforcement efforts and conservation efforts, serving on the Unified Command. And then went to ICE. And at ICE, we were able to deport over 2 million, 2.5 million illegal aliens. We assisted President Trump in removing dangerous alien criminals from our streets, and we've made America safer. And as I get into this race, what I know is that the people of Northwest Ohio have been neglected for 43 years of Marcy Kaptor. And I'm going to bring them a voice into the district that can fight for them in Washington D.C. and can stand up for with President Trump and fight for his agenda every single day.
Stephen K. Bannon
Ma', am, where do people go on social media to follow you, your coordinates and your campaign site? People, I'm sure going to want to know a lot about you and potentially support you.
Madison Sheehan
Absolutely. You can go to Sheehan for Ohio. It's sh ea h a n for Ohio. Go to the website. I would appreciate any donations and any support on that website as we continue to kick this off. Very excited to get in this race because I am the only person in this race that can beat Marcy Kaptor.
Stephen K. Bannon
Madison Sheehan, thank you so much for your, your, your time at ice, assisting the president of the country and good luck in your race. Thank you, ma'.
Kevin Fosobeck
Am.
Madison Sheehan
Thank you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Jack Bosovic. That's a young generation coming up of fighters. Your thoughts?
Jack Posobec
Well, Steve, look, you see jumping from one fire straight into another, going from being the deputy director of I.C.E. you see there? No, I mean, it just shows the caliber of people that are in this movement, that are in this fight, that are members of the posse, that members of the administration. They go from igc, Commander Bevino, when he's out there, something happens out in Minneapolis, he's there within seconds. I'm telling you that they snap their fingers, he's immediately on the. He doesn't need to do that, by the way. He doesn't need to go out there and put himself in the line of fire, put himself in danger. But he does that because he knows that the morale of the people of ice, the officers, the agents that are going out there being smeared, being attacked by so many of the mainstream media, as well as, by the way, the mayor, the governor, the attorney general, Keith Ellison yesterday. So the deputy director here, of course, jumped that.
Stephen K. Bannon
She.
Jack Posobec
She jumps from the national fire storm that's going on right now against ICE directly to running for a hardscrabble seat there in Ohio. You just have to look, Steve, these people, they're so talented, they're so smart. She could be doing anything. What is she doing? She's serving her country. She's serving her people. Now she's going to go back home and serve the people of her district.
Stephen K. Bannon
They.
Jack Posobec
That is why these, you know, there's no lobbyist for the American people. That is why the MAGA movement exists. The MAGA movement is the lobbying arm of the American people.
Stephen K. Bannon
By the way, it's Marcy Kaptor. One of the worst, you would agree, and been there for what, for over 40 years? One of the worst. One of the worst. Your thoughts?
Jack Posobec
No, the problem that we have so often is, is that you got to clean out some of the, you know, Pacific Palisades are probably ask you about this because sometimes you got to clean.
Stephen K. Bannon
Out the dead wood.
Jack Posobec
Sometimes you got to do a little controlled back burn on some members that have been there for a little bit too long. Here, South Carolina, where they got a senator who's flying over to Israel right now to work with Bibi Netanyahu on crafting his Iranian policy or whatever that is. I mean, they get there for so long, they forget to be in touch with their actual constituents. People of this country.
Stephen K. Bannon
Jack, Jack, Jack, Jack, Jack. Bibi talked the president out of. You got to love these guys. They're on President Trump 24 7. You see Lady Lindsay and that whole crowd, they're on him 24 7. When President Trump tells the guys, hey, look, give me a target set that can take this guy out and I'll consider it. They come back, well, there is no target set that long range bombing. He says, hey, I'm a lead bessant in the economic warfare, guys. Keep at this and let it collapse. Bibi, because they're winning on the tariffs, you know. Exactly. But Bibi goes and says, you know, we gave the President advice not to. Not to, not to attack Iran. That is a bald face lie.
Jack Posobec
Yeah.
Stephen K. Bannon
And Lady Lindsay so broken up. Hold it. Lady Lindsay is so broken. We got a clip of him, he's so broken, he just tweets out he's on a plane to go over and sob. You know, put his head on. Put his head on Netanyahu's shoulders. Have Netanyahu burp him like a little baby. Because he's all upset now that President Trump hasn't taken his advice. He and Tel Aviv Levin and President Trump said, no, no, no, no, we're gonna let the Persian people deal with this right now. We'll watch it closely. Anyway.
Jack Posobec
They'Re heading over Cyprus.
Stephen K. Bannon
A vocation.
Brian Glenn
Wow.
Jack Posobec
Down Tel Aviv, down to.
Stephen K. Bannon
I don't know, there's an act, there's a couple islands of Greece. I don't know.
Jack Posobec
Yeah. Anyway, on brocation, stays on vacation.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Sheila Matthews
And I told him this. Listen to this. 200 years ago, General Lafayette gave Simon Bolivar a medal with George Washington face on it.
Stephen K. Bannon
Bolivar, since then, kept that medal for the rest of his life.
Sheila Matthews
Actually, when you see his portraits, you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Can see the medal there. And it was given by General Lafayette as a sign of the brotherhood between the United States, people of the United States and the people of Venezuela in.
Sheila Matthews
Their fight for freedom against tyranny.
Stephen K. Bannon
And 200 years.
Sheila Matthews
In history.
Neil McCabe
The people.
Stephen K. Bannon
Of Bolivar are giving back to the.
Sheila Matthews
Hair of Washington a medal, in this case, the medal of the Nobel Peace Prize as a recognition for his unique.
Stephen K. Bannon
Commitment with our freedom. Okay, Machado is good. Let me just interpret that. As you remember, General Washington had two individuals close to him. He considered his sons because he didn't really have sons. That was Alexander Hamilton and the Marquis de Lafayette, a general from the. The French aristocracy, or Machado said that in presenting it to President Trump, she said, in 1825, the Marquis de Lafayette sent a gold medal featuring an image of George Washington to the South American independence here, Simon Bolivar. Machado called Lafayette's gift, quote, a sign of the brotherhood between the people of the United States and the people of Venezuela in their fight for freedom against tyranny. End quote. Jack Posobic, how do you interpret that? And do we have a readout yet that the president, that he receive it for the American people, sir.
Neil McCabe
That.
Jack Posobec
I've only seen what Machado said there. She said it has been gifted to the people of the United States from the people of Venezuela. So I would take that to mean she gave it to him. I don't. Doesn't sound like she brought it back with her just given, you know, given the way she put it there. I don't know if, you know, if that's exactly what happened, but, you know, we'll see. Of course, you know, I will say, though, a plus in terms of her understanding gift giving as a way to communicate to President Trump, she understands the importance of gifts. She understands, of course, the importance of the Nobel Prize, the importance of that to him, and the importance of tying it back to history. But of course, the real thing is we have to understand, Steve. So she understood. So good play on her part. But at the same time, what's going on here is once again, just like we saw back in this past summer, what, six months ago now, she wants regime Change, Steve. Once again, it's the regime change upsell all over again. You remember the regime change upsell from Iran all the way back during Neocon summer when all the neocons were saying we need regime change around regime change Iran, guess what, they're still doing it right now. Now they're coming in. They want the regime change upsell in Venezuela. President Trump rightfully looked at the situation and said, she doesn't have the support, she doesn't have the backing she's going to need. It's going to be much easier to do a targeted operation. You send in Delta Force, you get them out, then you work with the infrastructure in place. It's not regime change if you just get rid of one guy. It's regime transition. And so we need to be careful about all of these things. Yes, the symbols are great, the messaging is great. Of course we want all these things, but at the same time, we have to live in the real world. And in the real world, President Trump has already made the decision.
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, I gotta tell you, her use of symbols in language and history is second to none. I mean, that was. She stuck the branding today, of course, A plus. It's interesting too. In Venezuela, the three most impressive people are, number one, the vp, you know, Tony Soprano's daughter, who's basically the interim president down there right now. The vp, she's a hammer. The wife that's in prison with the bus driver, she was the AG under Chavez, she's a hammer. And then you've got Machado. The three most impressive people I've seen on the scene down there are all women. Just saying Simon Bolivar would be very impressed. One more time before I go to get Kevin in here. Just thoughts on this situation. In Iran, President Trump looked at all the information. Look at what Scott Bessen's doing. He knows the regime is falling, which we've been saying they're not having. Cut off the oil yet, although he's put China on notice, the CCP 25% tariff if you keep taking the oil. And he laid it out to the CIA, the Mossad, to Bibi, and all of them said, hey, there's a target set that can actually, at the end, take this down and let the people be free. I'll consider it. But if you don't have. It's a big massive bombing campaign. Not in. And this is what they wanted to do back in July. This is a full facial to Bibi and that entire Israel first crowd. And this is why Lady G's crying. He's moping around and he's now on a plane over, he says, I'm over there to plot strategy with Israel and with Bibi. The people in South Carolina should be outraged by that. Where is your senator? Is he like a military aide to Bibi Netanyahu? Jack Posobec, your thoughts?
Jack Posobec
Well, no, they're going on their mancation to Tel Aviv. You know, the Mediterranean East Med is really nice this time of year. They got that, you know, they got some of the Greek islands. So they're going to go on the mancation together. It's going to be very nice. But yeah, they're very upset that they're not getting this second round of bombings, that they're not getting the second round of attacks that they were pushing for all weekend that they wanted. And then Arab nations came together and they said, wait a minute, we don't need this full on regime change situation right now because look, you look at what's going on, the oil's flowing, business is going and the question is, are the tariffs working? Is the president's current policy, which, remember he said himself six months ago, it was Donald Trump's strategy, we're going to have the tariffs, we're going to put the tariffs on their partners, put the tariffs on China. We are going to look at those Straits of Hormuz and understand what's going in and out of the Strait of Hormuz and that's where. And then you get Besson come In to say, Mr. President, your understanding of the economics of this is unmatched. You get the currency which, which has never been targeted before. Besson, of course, has a history of this in the private sector. He comes in with his knowledge of international currency and those markets, comes in, targets Iran directly there and says, Mr. President, look, you can either do this this round and this is, by the way, Steve, when I was in the intelligence community, this is why they would sit there and if they would actually talk seriously, they would point out that's why conducting assassination campaigns and conducting these, these decapitation strikes isn't always useful for other countries because you never know what comes next. You never know who power is going to fall to. And many of the assessments in Iran say that power, if the ayatollahs go, if the mullahs go, power would fall to the irgc, it would get very bloody, it would be very brutal. There would be a civil war among the various different factions. There you got Nikkei, you've got the son of the former shah. So again, so many different and as well, as the IRTC themselves, who have an incredibly powerful second military. Iran has two militaries, ladies and gentlemen. If people aren't sitting there walking you through the, the P's and Q's of this thing, then they're not explaining to you the order of battle and the realities of a country that's as mountainous as the Rocky Mountains. So President Trump said, look, this way gets us money, and this way is just. This is another Afghanistan, another Iraq. We're not doing it.
Stephen K. Bannon
By the way. We're on. On tenterhooks down in Venezuela, too. That situation still to play out because they're all armed, they're all against each other. Jack, hang on. I want to bring Kevin in. Kevin, we live streamed it last night. It was so dangerous, and my talking to you and others, it was actually 10 times more dangerous in real life in the streets of Minneapolis than we could even pick up on the, on the tv. And we got a lot of footage. You walk our audience through. You happen to be right there. I think Sorter was there. You guys were right there when they went into. I think it's an FBI vehicle. Destroyed it and then took a weapon out of it and ammunition.
Jack Posobec
That's.
Kevin Fosobeck
That's correct, yes. So. So I and the whole crew of people were down there. Multiple, multiple people were there. It was at the intersection where this shooting occurred. And man was shot in the leg because he was trying to kill an ICE agent with a shovel. But we have released footage of. You can see there were three vehicles, three SUVs, that were plundered, totally looted and destroyed. They were destroying comms, walkie talkies, laptops, and also stealing sensitive information. These notebooks, as you see them on the live stream. And it's a very, very tense situation. And I alluded to it earlier today, but these people, like, what drives them to do this?
Stephen K. Bannon
I don't know.
Kevin Fosobeck
There's no moral compass here. They just seem to be in it for this, like, speeding frenzy of shorts.
Stephen K. Bannon
Okay, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it. Kevin, Kevin, hang on, hang on. Let me point you to the writings of a guy named Jack Bosobic. His unhuman. These are nihilists. These are atheists. There's no moral compass. What do you mean, moral compass? You're sitting down there. You won't all take them to Mass and take them to confessions and they're going to say a rosary with you. It's not going to happen. You're not going to convert these people. They're not convertible they're revolutionaries. They last night, last night, last night they could have killed some people. Last night was much more dangerous than people thought they could. Okay, tell me about that. You're trying to take them to mass and have them say a novena afterwards. It's not going to happen, brother. These are hardcore nihilist atheists. Go ahead, sir.
Kevin Fosobeck
Yes, so that's exactly it, Steve. That's my next point is. But if you go on to these websites called Indivisibles where they're planning to have protests this weekend again, that's what they'll tell you is it's all about this happy talk. Like pray with us. Reflect on the lives lost here. Reflect on your neighbors. That's what they tell you. But what's really happening is they're using it as a front. It's a total front for these antifa cells to gather, raise their numbers every day and then create chaos for the rest of the day amidst like maybe a few people that actually want to peacefully protest. But you're absolutely right. And we want to find out who's funding this. Soros and his goons, other grand dunes going around. Yes. So stay tuned for that.
Stephen K. Bannon
This will continue. Hang on. I want you to stick around. But real quick, I only got 30 seconds. Should the president invoke the insurrection act this afternoon for Minnesota tonight, sir?
Kevin Fosobeck
Absolutely. Absolutely. American people are behind it. This has to end.
Stephen K. Bannon
Hang on. Kevin Posobic, who's been in the middle of the action last night, extremely dangerous. They were destroying all types of stuff, throwing firecrackers almost like hand grenades and they destroyed an FBI vehicle and took out a weapon and ammunition. They're trying to armor up to go guns free. Short commercial break Back in the Warm in a moment. Do doctors have Black Friday sales? The doctors at Brick House Nutrition do. They just announced the Black Friday 30% off sale, the biggest sale of the year. The the most impressive health and nutrition products in the industry are now 30% off. Like Lean the doctor formulated weight loss supplement for people who want to lose meaningful weight without injections. Let me repeat that. Lean the doctor formulated weight loss supplement for people who want to lose meaningful weight without injections and 30% off creatine. Creatine designed just for women to look to help you look leaner in shape and tone without extra dieting or exercise. Even 30% off field of Greens, the only super fruit and vegetable drink shown in a university study to actually slow aging. And only Field of Greens promises better health results. Your doctor will notice every Brickhouse product from Better sleep to superior. Collagen is 30% off. But hurry because these Black Friday deals go fast. Visit BrickHouseSale.com that's all one word, BrickHouseSale.com and save 30%. That's BrickHouseSale.com one more time. BrickHouseSale.com is your host, Stephen K. Band. We're gonna go back to the brothers Paso Vic in a moment. Also Sheila Mathis is going to join us. I want to go to the White House though. We got both Brian Glenn and Neil McKay. Brian, first off the, the war room engine room always being on top of things. Say, hey look, she left the medal, but did she leave the million dollars? If she didn't leave the million dollars, you know Trump's gonna sit there, go, well, hey there's, that's not the prize. The prize. Where's the cash? BRIAN GLENN that's right.
Brian Glenn
No, I agree.
Brian Glenn or Neil McCabe (White House Correspondents)
And the war room posse is on point on that. And Neil and I sit here and we laugh at that, but it's kind of almost true. You will. When she left here, she did go across the street in Lafayette Park, Steve, and had a brief press conference there. I wasn't able to listen in. I was in on the activities here at the White House, but we were. I want to mention the amount of foreign press here over the last couple of days here. The White House is the most I've ever seen it since I was been covering the White House from the Danes about Greenland to the course Venezuelan media here. Even I saw some Ukrainian. The hockey press was here. So it's been a very bit. The patch where we're standing right now was completely full with tripods earlier as the world was watching the White House today as Machado was here. But unfortunately, well, she didn't, she didn't leave the cash.
Neil McCabe
Well, that's important.
Brian Glenn or Neil McCabe (White House Correspondents)
That is important.
Stephen K. Bannon
Neil, talk to us about the Insurrection Act. We got Kevin Bosobic and last night he and Nick Sorter were right there as they destroyed that as the insurrectionists, the traitors in the streets of Minneapolis destroyed the FBI's vehicle and took out a gun, stole a gun and ammunition. Yeah, these guys. Are we any closer tonight to invoking the Insurrection act, sir?
Neil McCabe
Yeah, absolutely. Kristi Noem was here at a gaggle this afternoon and basically voiced her support, saying it was up to the president. But she left no doubt that that's something they want that she wants done. They're going to go, they're going full John Brown in Minneapolis right now. And you know, they talk about the Insurrection act like it's some obscure law. Obscure 19th, like it's on some dusty shelf. JFK used the Insurrection act three times down south and Eisenhower used it at Little Rock. So nobody had a problem with the Insurrection act then. And so, you know, what are you going to do? You just can't. You just can't leave these people going crazy against our. For our federal law enforcement officers. And I'll say this. In 2020, the summer of 2020, Americans were waiting for Trump to do something when our cities were burning and there were people in the White House telling them, no, no, let them burn. It embarrasses the Democrats. The Americans expect Trump to act, and I think they're going to see it. Steve.
Stephen K. Bannon
Brian Glenn talking about act. President Trump, in fact, did not act on the bombing of Iran. It was supposed to be very close last night because he told, guys, give me a target set that takes out the ayatollah, and I'll think about it. It didn't happen, as you know. And now Bibi jumped in front of the news when the Daily Mail put it up in the Wall Street Journal. And Bibi said, I talked him out of it. I'm the guy that said you shouldn't bomb Iran. Is that, is there any credibility to that at all, sir?
Brian Glenn or Neil McCabe (White House Correspondents)
I'll kind of toss that back to Neil a little bit. You know, I'm hearing kind of mixed reports on that. I think we.
Neil McCabe
I saw, I saw it pop up. It was that it was somewhat attributed that Bibi thought it would bounce back on Israel, but. Makes you wonder who's running this country. Yeah, I mean, it's like, you know, the Netanyahu program going back to when he was an undergrad at BU is to destroy Iran. That's, you know, that's why he roped us into Iraq and everything else, that the whole history of Netanyahu is how can I use the United States to destroy the Iranian regime? And then somehow he said, don't do it. I don't know what's going on.
Brian Glenn or Neil McCabe (White House Correspondents)
Yeah.
Stephen K. Bannon
Strange credulity. Hey, Brian, before I let you go, you've got big news to announce about where you're going to be with the president. Can you walk us through it?
Brian Glenn
Yeah.
Brian Glenn or Neil McCabe (White House Correspondents)
We leave out on Saturday. We leave to Davos, go to Switzerland to cover this event. We'll be on the ground there. Really? Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, come back to the States on Thursday. I'll be doing the morning show, American Sunrise, early Edition from there as well. But we'll have full reports there on the ground and all the activities. I know I'll get the complete printout of the President's schedule and of course we'll get it out to the war room policy so you guys can follow us along. But happy to announce that right here on Real America's Voice that we'll have a solid presence there at Davos this year to find out exactly how President Trump intends to take on the world.
Stephen K. Bannon
Might be a little warmer than cover the world.
Brian Glenn or Neil McCabe (White House Correspondents)
Actually it was going to be colder here than it was there. So this is kind of the warm up act, if you will.
Stephen K. Bannon
You know, it was rumored in the group because they got America House and it's a big contingent going over. But that President Trump might just go over, take some meetings, do a speech and fly back and basically make it a red eye and a glorified day trip. That's not the case. You right now can say that you believe he may be there for three days.
Brian Glenn or Neil McCabe (White House Correspondents)
No, I know that he's got obviously the speech on Tuesday. I think there is something on Wednesday as well. But I can't confirm that he will be heading back out to the States on Thursday. Now mind you, Monday he is in Miami for the national championship game. So he must be taking a red eye on Air Force One from the game there in South Florida. But he's got two days. This is kind of relatively a quick day. But he's got a lot of action packed in those two days.
Neil McCabe
A guy who travels as much as Trump does, he does spend a lot of night. He always ends up back at the White House. It's, it's, it's almost characteristic of him at that.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yes.
Neil McCabe
You know he's tagged.
Stephen K. Bannon
He's a date. Yeah, yeah, he's a, he's a date. He's a day trip guy. Last question, Neil and, and sir, are you either one of you got the seats inside Miami and inside the, the stadium for the national championship game? Are either of you going with the President on that evolution?
Brian Glenn or Neil McCabe (White House Correspondents)
No, and I wish I was. So maybe I need to do a shout out to the President real quick behind me. I would love to go. Of course my Texas Tech Red Raiders crap the big one in the playoff. I'm not a big fan of the.
Brian Glenn
First run by, by the way.
Brian Glenn or Neil McCabe (White House Correspondents)
28 days not playing high powered off.
Neil McCabe
This wasn't Boston Colleges here, Steve.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, maybe we could.
Brian Glenn or Neil McCabe (White House Correspondents)
Maybe that's my next. Okay guys, we just do away with the first round buys in the college football.
Stephen K. Bannon
Make sure you get there. Run that by the President will take action. Okay guys, thank you very Much reporting from the White House, Brian Glenn, Neil McCabe, thank you, guys. Brian Glenn going to Davos with the presidential team, actually real America's Voice. Brian does a 7am show now for us, the kind of the pre game for American Sunrise. He'll be doing a live show every day from Davos. So that'll be extraordinary. Make sure you get some great guests there. Sheila Matthews joins us. Sheila, you got a very interesting article up about you've been following this situation in Minnesota closely ever since we had the shooting at the Catholic grade school and high school. But you've been following walls a lot. Tell me what your story says and why you think they're covering up even more than it looks like they're covering up.
Sheila Matthews
Well, because within every state, Minnesota being our focus right now is the Behavioral Health Oversight and Advisory Committee. And basically that's the industry advising the state what to write like legislative wise. And in Minnesota, there's minutes missing from the years when the fraud really took place. So it's very concerning because these three big behavioral health providers advise the state to buy this software to avoid audits, and they also advised to relax laws. And Kiki Brown, who was put on the hot seat by cbs, basically seemed so unaware, but she wrote the plan for the Medicaid money. We believe that it is deeply embedded in these advisory commissions and advisory groups that are benefiting from all the Medicaid money and then telling the state how to ease up on audits. So we have the receipts within our article, but we do need help foiaing the missing data. And so that's a real concern. So it's.
Stephen K. Bannon
Are you, are you. Hang on, hang on, hang on. Are you calling for these advisory committees to be dissolved right now?
Sheila Matthews
I am across the board. They were meant for consumers and parents, not for behavioral health providers that actually benefit from the Medicaid dollars. So I understand that, you know, Minnesota is all upset because, you know that President Trump wants to stop all the funding. And I understand their plan does not meet President Trump's requirements to restore the funding. And we stand behind President Trump on that because these advisory committees are, they are fraudulent and they are not being, they're not representing the people.
White House Official
And.
Stephen K. Bannon
Are you calling for President Trump, the agencies themselves, inside the state government for a federal takeover and forensic audits and no cash until you can find records for this thing. Do you believe that's how you get to the bottom of this fraud quickly and get accountability quickly?
Sheila Matthews
Absolutely. I think that the forensic audit is more important than attorneys. The smartest person in the room is always the auditor. And so I understand that Minnesota is like blocking Trump from withholding the money. But the American people and the parents in Minnesota deserve an audit, a forensic audit of these behavioral health. We want the records. No records. Records, no money. That's basically what we're saying. So, yes, we want those advisory commissions dissolved.
Stephen K. Bannon
Sheila, I want people to go to the site and get these articles right now, because I think you're on to, I think you're onto a line of attack here that really works. Where do people go to get more information about this? I think it's going to become a quite big topic as we roll up to the 1st of February. The President's committed no more money to these guys. But it's deeper than that. You've got to grab the agencies, grab the records and see how they've stolen it in the past as you cut it off. Where they go.
Sheila Matthews
Sheila, we want the software too, of the audits that were given to the big three behavioral health providers. So they go to ablechild.org, ablechild.org, we have a petition that could get us federal hearings. We urge you to sign it. We don't take federal grants and we don't take state grants. So we are an independent, consumer driven organization. And so ablechild.org and please donate to us. And we support the withholding of funds and we urge the court to listen to us so we could use an attorney to file a brief to the court that is standing in Trump's way and we can provide them with the minutes that we need from these oversight committees.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah. Thank you, ma'.
Jack Posobec
Am.
Stephen K. Bannon
Appreciate you, Able child. Sheila Matthews on top of it as she always is. Kevin Posovic, Krissi Noem says we're not backing off, we're not stopping the surge. In fact, we may increase the surge. President Trump's weighing and measuring the Insurrection act, is it going to get dicey again tonight? And is Antifa pouring in for a bigger. Are they rallying people for a big weekend of protest and many riots in Minneapolis, sir?
Kevin Fosobeck
I believe so, Absolutely.
Brian Glenn
Yeah.
Kevin Fosobeck
Thanks to Kristi Nova and the team. Operation Metro surge continues and operations are continuing regardless of all this mayhem. I think for certain that there will be more numbers tonight, tomorrow night, all through the weekend.
Stephen K. Bannon
Not really.
Kevin Fosobeck
Like, they have really important jobs anyway. But as we've seen, these people are walking out of their schools during the week. The teachers as well are walking out. So, yeah, the numbers will definitely increase. It's getting to be also about zero degrees. It's getting colder this weekend. Another factor for last night which made it particularly dangerous was that the sidewalks were covered with ice, too. About, you know, quarter inch thick. Solid ice. So even everyone's maneuvers were halted there. There's wind, as you can see the video playing right here. There's. There's wind carrying the tear gas everywhere. And this is going into people's homes, too, that are just, you know, innocent bystanders like you. Can't change your house location.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Jack Posobec
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Kevin Fosobeck
Well, thank you so much. Yeah, we, we're at X Instagram at Kevin Fosobeck and follow Human Events on X as well. I'm also on substack and yeah, we're down there next. Man up, Steve. It's two weeks until sanctuary cities lose all their funding anyway from the president. But we want to, we want to fast forward that a little more and.
Stephen K. Bannon
Okay.
Kevin Fosobeck
And really clean this up.
Stephen K. Bannon
Kevin, Kevin, be safe and don't take them to say a rosary, okay? No novenas for these guys. Just you be safe and just do the great reporting that the Posobec brothers are known for. Love you, man. Be safe tonight.
Kevin Fosobeck
Amen.
Stephen K. Bannon
In bitter cold Minneapolis, Jack Posobec, you're live at six with Thought Crimes. Want everybody to tune in? Maybe you can watch Thought Crimes first and then we'll get on tape. You watch War Room Texas next. Thought Crimes. What is on Thought Crimes tonight, sir?
Jack Posobec
Yeah, Steve, we're hopping up on Thought Crime for people who don't know. Thought Crime is the show I did. I used to with Charlie Kirk. Now it's myself and the rest of the Charlie Kirk show team. So Blake Neff, Andrew Colvett, Tyler Boyer hopping in. And this is where we get into sort of the. The things that, you know, just the stories that don't pop up anywhere else. So obviously we're going to talk about ice because that's huge. Typically, this is our highest rated show of the week. It's actually our highest rated. So we're Gonna talk about how Hollywood is being completely decimated by AI deepfakes. They are done actors, the whole industry, it's all in collapse in Hollywood. L. A Now Barbie, they've got a new Barbie doll out with an autistic. Barbie is the new Barbie that's come out. So people saying it makes a mockery of children who actually have issues like this. We're going to obviously mass migration and we're going to talk about the latest in injections where believe it or not, girls are now getting Brazilian butt lifts and apparently facial injections. And they're getting not artificial fat, they're getting fat from cadavers. These are just a couple of the things that we're going to get into on this just going on out of there in the world. And Steve, we, we may, we may just have to start talking about the mancations again because, you know, we need to see what's going on with this man cation. We need to understand it. We need to. We need to get into it. We need to unpack the psychology of the mancation BB Lady G. So we're going to get into all that as well.
Stephen K. Bannon
Mancations, Mancation. So fake and gay. By the way, I notice on Thought Crimes you guys have what they say in baseball, you have range. You have a lot of range. And it's not the typical Jackson.
Jack Posobec
No, that's the point is when you do thought crime, he would talk sports and just everything.
Stephen K. Bannon
Oh, that's great. That's great. Six o' clock on Rumble. Correct?
Brian Glenn
Yeah.
Jack Posobec
So I'm going to sign. I'm here in the studio, so I'll sign off and hop on right there. And Steve, I'll just say this real quick. People need to understand. People need to understand. We are in the testing phase right now. We are winning. They are completely losing this narrative. We have the advantage. Do not relent. Do not hit the brakes. Now. We press forward. We press onward. This is what the American people wanted. They know they're breaking. Go look at Tim Walls. He's firing off tweet after tweet after tweet. He is getting desperate. If we can break them in Minnesota, their lines will be broken everywhere and we can get our country back.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yes. Yes. All gas, no break. Right now. Let's invoke the Insurrection act and get on with and cut them off on Money One February. Jack Bosobik, thank you. Go do thot crimes. Look forward to seeing 1%.
Jack Posobec
God bless.
Stephen K. Bannon
God bless. What an interesting thing. Okay, Mike Lindell, we're not Selling pillows tonight, the Warren posse. I'll do it later, but right now you're on a roll, brother. And the reason we're not gonna sell pillows right now, you're doing. I don't know if another debate or whatever, but, man, you gotta save Minnesota. This thing is it's a great state. Great people, beautiful. It's one of the most beautiful states in the country. Man, it is a mess up there, brother. What in the hell's going on?
Brian Glenn
Well, first of all, yes, I'm gonna head to another debate here in 20 minutes and you guys can help out Mike Lindellgov. The other night I said, well, what's the first. One of the first things you're gonna do, Mike, when you get in office? I'm gonna ban sharia law. That's for sure. The first day. Ban sharia law, and you're gonna make new protester laws. Minnesota, right now, you need to arrest all these protesters. When you stop people from getting to their children, their homes, these people, my friends and stuff that are downtown Minneapolis, they're scared to death because they can't get to the hospitals, they can't get to their daughters to pick them up from school. And just the other day, Steve, this happened Monday. I want everybody to think about this. By the way, these protesters are busting. This is all a big show. The other day on Monday morning, I came to work here at 6:45. I used to chase someone. We're 20 minutes from Minneapolis. I used to chase somebody out all the way right across from my pillow in the street. Five ice cars. Within five minutes, protesters showed up in my parking lot calling my employees Nazis and stuff. Of course I got there. You get out. I mean, it was. But this is where it's at. If you make protester laws where you don't let them stop people, you don't let them block streets. You start there and you just start arresting them. It's disgusting. And others, you know, go get a permit. I'm all about, yeah, you can have a protest, but you don't commit crimes during the protest. This all comes down from waltz fry. The governor, and I mean the governor and the mayor of Minneapolis when they let the precinct burn to the ground in the summer of 2020. Steve, at one point. This goes back eight years. Black Lives Matter blocked off 35W eight years ago, an eight lane highway. And they let him do it. We couldn't get. My people couldn't get to work for Minneapolis and we couldn't get our products. So, you know, this is where we're at and this is to me, you arrest the protesters. You just sweep them.
Stephen K. Bannon
They're all out of state. There's not many Minnesota folks. Real quickly we're. They go to where they go to find out about you run for governor. Where they go.
Brian Glenn
Sir, we need help right now. It's Mike Lindale. Gov.com you guys. Every dime that I get is going to help save Minnesota, save the country. I want to be the next governor and I need your help. Thank you.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Title: Victory Through Tariffs; On The Ground In Minnesota
Air Date: January 15, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Key Guests: Jack Posobec, Kevin Posobec, Madison Sheehan, Sheila Matthews, Brian Glenn, Neil McCabe, Mike Lindell
This episode covers a turbulent week on both the national and international fronts, focusing on President Trump’s threats to invoke the Insurrection Act, violent protests in Minnesota, mounting pressure on ICE operations, and approaches to Iran and Venezuela under Trump’s policy of “victory through tariffs.” The panel dives into the chaos on Minneapolis’ streets, the politics surrounding ICE, debate over federal intervention, strategizing against entrenched politicians, and the financial and symbolic tactics employed in foreign policy. The episode also spotlights grassroots activism, corruption in behavioral health in Minnesota, and campaign trail updates from Madison Sheehan and Mike Lindell.
Opening Debate (00:00 - 02:06):
Escalating Rhetoric and Policy Moves (02:06 - 03:16):
Host Tone:
Guest Introduction & Background (06:13 - 10:28):
ICE Perspective on the Insurrection Act (08:09 - 08:28):
Ohio 9th Focus (09:19 - 10:28):
Live from Minneapolis: Protest Violence (24:27 - 27:55):
Antifa and Protest Tactics (26:47 - 27:35):
Call for Presidential Intervention (27:35 - 27:55):
Operation Metro Surge & Anticipated Unrest (42:18 - 43:30):
Jack Posobec’s Take (11:00 - 13:13; 12:16):
Bannon & Posobec on Politicians (13:13 - 13:56):
Iran Strategy (13:56 - 24:27):
Venezuela, Nobel Symbolism, and Regime Change (16:39 - 22:08):
Brian Glenn & Neil McCabe at the White House (30:16 - 36:25):
Mike Lindell on Minnesota Chaos and Gubernatorial Run (50:25 - 53:08):
This energetic episode is dominated by alarm over the situation in Minneapolis, with calls for strong federal action under the Insurrection Act. The hosts and guests align tightly with Trump’s law-and-order posture, accusing Democratic leaders of sabotaging law enforcement and fostering unrest in sanctuary cities. The Minneapolis crisis, symbolized by live accounts from Kevin Posobec, is woven together with larger narratives of MAGA resurgence, political anti-elitism, and the “lobbying arm of the American people.”
On the international front, Trump’s preference for economic pressure (tariffs, currency controls) over military action is praised, while skepticism is cast over foreign politicians like Netanyahu. Venezuela enters the conversation via a symbolic Nobel medal gift.
Domestically, grassroots corruption-fighting surfaces in a discussion on Medicaid and behavioral health in Minnesota, presented as both a local and national fiscal challenge. Political campaign updates (Sheehan, Lindell) bookend the policy debates, supporting the episode's message of direct MAGA engagement—be it in Congress, the governor’s mansion, or the streets.
The War Room’s bottom line: Now is the time for action: push hard, break the opposition, and impose the MAGA agenda across all fronts—legal, political, and economic. The audience is called to vigilance, activism, and support for insurgent candidates, all in service to “save the country.”