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Episode 5078: Chip Wars Ramp Up Around The Globe
Episode 5078: Chip Wars Ramp Up Around The Globe...
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to get a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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Sean Davis
And where do people like that go.
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Steve Bannon
To share the big lie?
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Sean Davis
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
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Steve Bannon
I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Congressman Brian Mast
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen k. Band.
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Steve Bannon
Monday, 19th January irvillord 2026 it is Martin Luther King Day here. Also the kickoff of Davos. Jack Bosova will be heading over tonight. Secretary Treasury Scott Besant who we're trying to get for maybe later in this hour. If not, we'll do it at 5 o' clock is there leading the first wave of the contingent. We'll break that off. Nora Bin Laden and Royce White are going to hang around. We're going to talk more about the globalist and Davos, Rabbi Waliki is with us to break down everything on the peace committee and what's happening in Gaza and Iran. I want to bring in now Congressman Brian Mast from the Foreign Relations Committee. Congressman, just break it down for us because as you know, the leading voice and platform for anti CCP has been the war room from the beginning. I'm the only civilian they tell me that's fully sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party. It happened on the first day of Biden's administration. It Peter Navarro and myself, a couple of others, we've been adamant about this situation with the AI race. We had a Sputnik moment when the when deep sea came up and clearly we're providing too much assistance to build an ecosystem for the Chinese Communist Party. They can even compete with us. Yet we have the oligarchs, the burlogarchs in this country continue to argue education, national labs, companies, you know, Harvard, Stanford, but most importantly the selling of chips. Now you've got a bill out that opposes this. But I want you to explain because it's quite confusing. You have many people that have traditionally been anti CCP that are now in the argument. A lot of MAGA voices saying no, no, no, no, no, no. What mass is trying to do is help the Chinese Communist Party and Not hinder it. So can you make this make sense? Just walk us through the basics here and what you're trying to accomplish.
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Congressman Brian Mast
Yeah. So let's start with the basics on just the history of chips in part, right? You have companies like Nvidia that hands down, they make the best chips anywhere in the world. Chinese company Huawei, their chips do not compete with the Nvidia chips at all. And I would tell them, go sell your chips anywhere and everywhere you want. If it was just Xbox and PlayStation that they were affecting. But that's not the reality. They are. Their chips are affecting at the highest level. Real war, real war fighters, real casualties. That's the seriousness of what we're talking about here. Nvidia only cares about selling the most number of chips. They don't care if it's the absolute best ones or the middle range ones or the worst ones. They just want to sell as many as possible. So they're a very powerful force that's trying to say no ban on any chip sales. Sell them to China, sell them to ByteDance, Alibaba, 10 cent Chinese military companies. Sell them to anybody that'll buy them. What does my bill do? It takes something that we already have in Congress for anything related to military sales. What are foreign military sales? Right. You got a company in the US that makes a fighter jet or a jet engine, or a missile that goes on the wing of a jet, or the avionics that go in the cockpit. If that takes place, it goes through a foreign military sales process where the administration is going to say, okay, we're okay with selling this missile to some ally. And then after they make that okay, then they send that to Congress, that agency, that bureau. They send it to Congress and say, congress, are you okay with it sending this to this country or this company? Or do you see a problem? That's the foreign military sales process. What this does, this bill does very simply. It adds these advanced AI chips that are being used for everything from the nuclear strike on, on Iran's, on Iran's nuclear facilities, the B2 strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, to drone swarms in Russia with the, you know, with Ukraine, to decision making who decides first, who decides last. It's fully integrated in US Military. It says those have to go in that foreign military sales process. And Congress says, yeah, okay, we're okay with that sale or we are not okay with that sale. There are no sales that originate from Congress.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, let me break down two arguments I, I see all the time against your bill. Number one, the argument that Jensen Wong and others, I think even David Sachs are making that mast missed the point. We actually want them to be on our chips because that sets a whole ecosystem, a whole structure to their industry that they don't put enough capital into trying to compete with us. They'll always be behind us because we're never ever going to sell them the leading chips. So it's smart for us to kind of addict them to our chips. They don't put the capital expenditures in, they don't allocate capital as an asset class to do this and therefore they were always trailed the United States. Your response, sir?
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Congressman Brian Mast
Yeah, this is the argument. This is the talking point of Nvidia. If we get them hooked on our chips, then they won't develop their own system. Huawei will just go out of business. They'll stop working, they'll stop developing, they'll stop trying to steal our intellectual property. All those problems will go away. That's what happened to a million telecom companies in the 1990s and early 2000s that no longer exist because they thought the exact same thing out of China. It's an argument that they can make, but it's never been an argument that's proven true. And you can use Xi Jinping's own words. He said it himself. Listen. To rely on another country's technology is like building your house on somebody else's foundation. They have no desire to stop their development. They want us to bring in as many chips into China as they can get so that they can examine them, exploit them, learn how to copy them, learn how to improve on them, make their systems better and ultimately make our systems inferior. That is the only reason they want American chips.
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Steve Bannon
Congressman. In fact, in May of 2019, after Lighthizer Navarro worked under President Trump's guidance for two years and had the really the big deal that have taken away the seven original sins of the Chinese Communist Party's economy integrated in. They said no, we don't want to be sub. You know, under submission of the foreign devils. They declared a people's war on us. But at the same time she put out an argument that said hey, all of our tech companies, you're just temporarily using western technology. I want to get you got to. Your number one priority is to take western technology and build. And this is what you saw on TikTok and Deep Seek, all of it. You're to become a world class provider. Is that not. That's the same policy she's got today on chips. Correct. Nothing's changed.
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Congressman Brian Mast
Same same policy that he's got and in the 45 administration, I want to back up what President Trump did. He did the right thing. He said, okay, number one, these other companies like asml, they make the most advanced chip making tools that China cannot replicate. President Trump to work to say, hey, none of those tools are going to be sold to China. That puts them behind. And right now he has a ban on the highest end Nvidia chip, what's known as the Blackwell, from being sold to China. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth said, listen, this is integral to the military future and military advantage and we have to win this fight. So if we have to win that, under no circumstances should we be selling that to China. And again, this is the, you know, this is what I advise the President. I'm not a yes man for Jensen Wang. I'm somebody that looks out for my war fighters, my country. And I look at it and say we should not be selling any chips to China, especially these most advanced chips like these H2 hundreds that they want to sell. And I'll put a fine number on that for you right now, Steve.
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Kathleen Winn
Say.
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Congressman Brian Mast
The number of chips right now in Elon Musk's biggest data centers, what's known as Colossus 1 and 2. If people aren't familiar with that China ByteDance, Alibaba, these Chinese military companies, they're asking for four times the amount of chips that Elon Musk has in the world's biggest data centers. They're asking for four times as much of that to be sold to them as we speak. They are directly trying to compete with Elon Musk and American Tech. That's just one example to put a fine point on.
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Steve Bannon
In the years in the wilderness, of course, you know, America First Policy Institute CRA under Russ Vogt Heritage is Project 2025. Mike Davis the War Room we redefine that said, hey, the Article 2 powers of the president as chief executive, as chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer, but particularly as commander in chief, really the inherent powers are much larger and we've been mocking Congress now under Johnson for a while calling it the Duma. Doesn't your bill, one of the arguments is that you are directly trying to interfere with President Trump's capacity as commander in chief to make these decisions and trying to insert the Duma into the decision making process. Your response, sir?
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Congressman Brian Mast
Yeah, we are trying to make sure that Congress has a say. So when any administration goes out there and says we want to sell some kind of military hardware, military component to another country, that we take a Look at that and say, you know what? My evaluation is that the Chinese military, the commies, they are the end user of that. So that if there are people in the Bureau of Industry Security that say, hey, they're fine with selling the most advanced tech to Alibaba and ByteDance and Chinese military companies, that there is another stop from preventing that. Because the fact is, the president's eyes are not on every single thing. He has people across all of these agencies, and when it comes to US Military advantage and the potential for US Military casualties, yeah, I want to make sure that we have eyes on those sales just like we have eyes on all other foreign military sales today. That's trying to codify what Trump is doing. No Chinese military end users.
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Steve Bannon
Scott Besson, Secretary of Treasury Marco Rubio, National Security Advisor, and Secretary of State Pete Hex assess Terry War. I know you've been working them. Where do they stand? Because that's President Trump will pivot and ask those three guys, what, what should I do here? What do you think about what Mass is trying to do? Where. Where do you stand with talking to those folks and getting them on board your bill?
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Congressman Brian Mast
I've spoken to all three of them in the last several days, but those are private conversations that, you know, for the purpose of trusting relationships. I will not speak to them. But I'll say, let Secretary of War Hegseth's policy tell everybody exactly where he is. He just released something saying we need to win this race. The they released six points about what we need to make sure doesn't happen. No Chinese military end users was one of those points. Making sure that selling chips to another country like China doesn't result in American companies getting less chips. Obviously, if you sell a couple million chips to Chinese military companies, then that's a couple million less chips that the US that the US Companies can't get because every single one of them is sold out. Making sure something that we didn't bring into this conversation is one of their points that they put out. If they can't get their hands on the chips, the Chinese, the commies, they try to get into it via cloud. They try to access it because there's a computing power that they need that if they can't get access to these chips, they can't compete with us. So they'll try to reach that computing power via cloud in another way, even if the chips aren't within their country. So it's making sure that they have that access. And the point I'm making is all of these things are being laid out by Secretary of War Pete Hegseth and others to say we can't let the Chinese touch these things. I want to back that up. I'm not, like I said, I'm not going to say what we talk about privately, but let's just say that's their policy that they're putting forward and my bill codifies what they want to do.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, folks, so this is behind the scenes on Capitol Hill in Washington is the biggest fight that's going on and one of the most, if not the most important. I want to make sure people are up to speed and have access to as much information about this as possible. So, Congressman, where do they go? Your social media coordinates, particularly your site in Congress. I want people to get fully up to speed on your bill because there's, as you know, a lot of very powerful MAGA influencers who people respect a lot are on the other side of this argument from us. And I want to make sure everybody understands fully what's going on.
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Congressman Brian Mast
So where do they go at Repbrian Mast? I chair the Foreign Affairs Committee. So there, you know, I'd say directly to Jensen Wang, you know, listen, why don't you take your dozen or so influencers and anybody else that supports you. You guys go stand at one podium in the Oval Office, I'll stand at another and let's argue this out in front of the President. I'd be happy to do that this afternoon, tomorrow, next week, any day that you want. But it is that important that we need to go out there and we need to have this argument. We can come on with you and argue it out. If he wants to do that there.
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Steve Bannon
Yeah. So if we could get Jensen, you'll. You'll come on and we'll have both sides go at it.
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Congressman Brian Mast
Name the time and place.
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Steve Bannon
That's an offer. Thank you, sir. Thank you for coming on. I want everybody to get upset on this. Thank you very much. Congressman Brian Mass, Chairman of the House Foreign Relations Committee, Foreign Affairs. Thank you, sir. Okay, we still got Royce. We've got Knorr in Switzerland, Posos heading over there. Brian Glenn's already there. It's a huge contingent. We're going to be doing a lot of reporting from Davos about the Larry Fink now in charge, President Trump who's crushing the post war international rules based order to put America first. It's going to be the Wednesday. Rabbi Wielicki is still with us. Joe Allen's gonna join us. John Solomon's gonna join us. Pretty packed today. All family pharmacy Remember what Bobby Kennedy's doing to thwart the negative impact of Big Pharma in your life. That's only one part of the equation. The pharmaceutical distributors and drugstores, you gotta break free from that. AllFamilyPharmacy.com promo code. Bannon 10 get 10% off. They've got physicians and specialists. They can get you all the prescriptions you need. Allfamilypharmacy.com Bannon10 Break the grip of Big Pharma on your life. There's a lot of politicians that should be getting coal in their stockings for Christmas. But Birchgold thinks as a smart planner you deserve silver. That's why for every $5,000 you purchase between now and December 22nd, Birch Gold will send you an ounce of silver free. Remember, silver is up over 60% this year and over $60 an ounce. You see, smart people diversify and have a hedge. That's why I encourage you to buy gold from Birch Gold. With the rate cuts from the Fed in 2026, the dollar will be worth less. And what happens if the AI bubble burst? Diversify. Let Birch Gold Group help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA and physical gold. Let me repeat that. Physical gold. And for every $5,000 you buy, you'll get an ounce of silver for your stocking or for your kids. What a great way to teach them about saving smartly. Just text my name. Ban it B A N N o n to 989-898 to claim your eligibility for this offer. Again text Bannon B A N N O N to the number 989-898 today because Birchgold's free silver with qualifying purchase promotion ends the 22nd of December of this year. Make sure you text Bannon 298-9898. Do it today.
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Congressman Brian Mast
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Steve Bannon
The President just put up a true social John Solomon's article that John and I talked about earlier this morning for him coming on so that's pretty powerful. He's going to join us here momentarily. Joe Allen, your assessment of Congressman Mass. Was that a pretty even handed because this thing has gotten quite contentious and personal. Is that. Was that a pretty good representation of what he's trying to accomplish?
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Jensen Wang
Yes, Steve. The objective is very simple. It's simply to cut off China from any hardware capacity that would improve their military capabilities in AI or any other computing operation. So the opposition so far as I can tell, could only have one real motivation and that would be to continue to open up the market for Nvidia to sell their chips to China. That's the last big market that Nvidia had it.
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Steve Bannon
But, but Jensen. Yeah, okay, I got that. But they admit that the other side. But they're saying, what about the theory Jensen's pushing is that you want them kind of addicted to our chips, that they will not go full bore on developing their own capacity. They won't have the capital allocation because they'll be spending too much money buying our chips and be happy to use it. And always not a leader in this competition, but a deep second place. That's their argument. Do you buy that?
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Jensen Wang
Not at all. It would make sense if you didn't have Huawei continually pushing forward with the development of the Ascend chip. And they've already got a couple of superclusters up that are running to feed them the Nvidia chips, the H200, H2 hundreds or if it were to open up to the Blackwells or the upcoming Rubens, then it would just give them one more capacity, more compute capacity to develop their artificial intelligence and to run their artificial intelligence. It would also give them a greater opportunity to reverse engineer the chips. The entire argument, as far as I can tell, rests on this assumption that sort of like with Huawei getting Europe, especially the UK addicted to their telecom services, that it then locks them in to those that the Huawei hardware. Well, that's not really true in that case. But in the case of the AI chips, in the case of building out data centers with Nvidia chips, it's not as if they can't go in and refashion those with their Ascend chips. And it doesn't really impact the Huawei or any other Chinese company's ability and motivation to develop their chips. I've heard, for instance, that right now you have a call to block Nvidia chips from local authority authorities in China because they want to protect Huawei's interests. I don't believe that at all. The minute they can open up the market to Nvidia chips, especially the high level chips, they'll do. So I think Brian Mass, Overwatch act is at least one way to block that advancement.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, hang on for a second. We're talking about the other acts and details on this and President Trump versus Congress if this happens. John Solomon joins us. So, John, you wrote this piece. I want you to connect the dots because you're saying, hey, the Somalian thing is actually part of a business model. It deals with election fraud, surprise, surprise, and the President just put it out there and said, hey, the elections are rigged. We got to get to the bottom of the of which we're saying, Mr. President, we agree. Maybe you called the Justice Department and give him a heads up. John Solomon, what in the hell's going on here, sir?
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John Solomon
Well, listen, I think what's happened is we're starting to see members of Congress who dug into the Somali fraud scandal, James Comer, Rand Paul, even Tom Emmer, the number three member in the House, number three leader in the House, all saying this was a business model. And the business model goes like this. First overturn Donald Trump's plan to not count illegal aliens in the census. If you count them, then they go towards apportionment and they go towards federal fund distribution. So the liberals do that. First they reverse Donald Trump's plan to not count illegal aliens in the 2020 census. Then Biden opens the borders. Then the nonprofits, the liberal nonprofits, take taxpayer money and move those illegal aliens from the border to battleground states into blue sanctuary cities. Then they allow them to get on welfare, even though the law says you're not supposed to be on welfare as an illegal alien for five years. Then when the fraud starts, because that's the only way to keep these illegal aliens present in the cities, they turn a blind eye to that. Now, every one of those five sentences happened. What Comer, what Rand Paul and what Tom Emmer and several other people are telling me is they're now beginning to see evidence that this was a master scheme, a master plan that the left and maybe some of its allies in foreign countries were working on together. Now, if that turns out to be true, it'll be one of the biggest stories of our lifetime. If the Democratic Party intended to have money stolen, borders broken down, and illegal mass migration into the battleground states to save the Democratic Party during a time when the country was turning more and more conservative. More red more Trump red more. That would be an extraordinary story. There's zero doubt that Congress is investigating it. Those five things all happened. If they are able to prove that it was part of a master plan and hold to account those who built the plan, executed the plan, it will be one of the most largest reckonings in American history.
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Steve Bannon
John, with that and you kind of saying, hey, where's OMB been and where these guys proven this have been for years. But, but you've got that, plus you got the deep state. Charlie Kirk's Student Action Summit in July. I said the most important thing we've got to do, the highest priority is take it apart. Because we don't do it. Posobec's been putting up tweets over the last couple days of people he's hearing just the low propensity, low information voters are the core of Trump's thing, saying, hey, man, I just don't see it. You came on the show, I think, back in July and talked about the conspiracy. That four and a half minute clip is now going viral again. People are looking to you like, what in the hell's going on here? Are we serious? Cause you see these things about the business model, and we're sitting there going, yes, it's obvious. And people are talking about it, but we're burning daylight, as you know. What's the.
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John Solomon
We lost the whole year.
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Steve Bannon
President puts out. President puts out. Hey, Omar, last night. And it's like, we got it. Why is no one looking at her and the husband and her $30 million is. You're dialed in. Is there any sense that people are working around the clock and working weekends to sort this mess out?
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John Solomon
There is. And I think the most important day was January 12, Monday, January 12, because that is when the grand jury in Fort Pierce, Florida, for the first time convened to look at the grand conspiracy case. I have seen enormous activity by federal prosecutors all across the country since that day. Documents being pulled, people being briefed, questions being asked, evidence being gathered. There is an effort to put together a conspiracy case that the government was weaponized to deprive Donald Trump and his followers of their civil liberties by falsely pursuing them for criminal charges when there was no evidence to do so. That will take you all the way back to Jack Smith and Lois Lerner, 2014 IRS, all the way to Jack Smith, 2024, and the prosecutions that ultimately were dismissed by Judge Eileen Cannon. And ironically, that will all be in Eileen Cannon's district. It looks like that's where the grand jury is based. Now, separate of that, there is the Democrat machinery, the fraud machinery, and the possibility. That's an election strategy. You saw Friday night that the confirmation that Waltz and Mayor Fry are being criminally investigated for obstructing the ICE activities. But that investigation is broader than just interference and ice. It's also looking at whether a willful and blind eye was turned to the fraud because the fraud was essential to a Democrat election strategy. And so that grand jury in Minnesota is looking at more than that. There could be subpoenas delivered today or tomorrow, hand delivered to the governor and the mayor of Minneapolis. That is a big moment. I would not be surprised to see the Minnesota attorney General also receive a grand jury in the next couple days because these whistleblowers, these state workers are now cooperating with federal investigators. Rand Paul confirmed that on Friday. So you have a federal criminal investigation, congressional investigation, looking at this strategy that the president just tweeted out in the story I did then the final piece of the puzzle, and I think this could have indictments or arrests as early as this month based on my reporting, is they're looking at who is funding these protests, who is obstructing ice, who are the funders, the orchestrators, the facilitators of these riots and these efforts to impede lawful enforcement. I think that could be the first sign of indictments that we could see arrests and indictments as early as the end of this month based on the activity I'm seeing in the field. I think the Florida grand jury we're probably looking at between now and early spring before we see the activities there. But for the first time, the resources are in place, the evidence is gathered and now real grand jury activity that can result in real charges beginning to happen. Now they got to deliver, right? It's one thing to have the processes and everything to deliver. So I'll have to see if they deliver, but the machine is rolling.
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Steve Bannon
John Solomon, where do people go? You're putting up these stories all the time. Where do people go on social media into your website and the show?
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John Solomon
Yeah, just the news.com, j. Solomon reports, of course, on all social media. And I'm very lucky to follow you every night right here on Real America's Voice with Justin News. No noise. Steve, one last angle I want to focus everybody on. While the Democrats had a strategy, Mexico and China had a plan to ride that strategy to conquer the United States. These excerpts that are coming out in the next couple days from Peter Schweitzer's book, I mentioned them last week to you. I think they're some of the most significant foreign policy revelations. Mexico has been trying has had a strategy in open in documents trying to destroy the United States through illegal immigration. Take a look at the excerpts we're going to have tomorrow. I think it's going to be really significant and it goes side by side with the Democrat election strategy.
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Steve Bannon
John Solomon, thank you so much, sir, for doing the work and making yourself available to our audience. Appreciate you.
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John Solomon
I love it. Thanks.
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Steve Bannon
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Congressman Brian Mast
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, Royce White, you just heard John Solomon. They're having a grand jury now about obstruction from Fry in the governor Waltz who you know Mike Lindell, one of our other compadres has run against. You're running for the Senate. Your thoughts? Got two minutes. Sir. Give us the summary of what's happening in Minnesota and particularly should the Insurrection act be invoked by the president.
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Royce White
The Insurrection act should 1000% be declared by the president. Like I said earlier, things will fizzle out Here in Minnesota today, it's negative 4 degrees, feels like negative 18. People have a lot of other things going on. For a lot of these folks, the politics are theater. For some of them, they're method actors. They're willing to die in the drama, and that's a scary proposition. On the political side, we know that there's fraud. We know that there's corruption. And the president should 100% pursue these investigations and indictments. This is no longer on the political side. This is no longer about right or wrong, due process, or any of these things. This is about who has the power at the time where the public consent favors investigations and prosecutions. That's what this is about. And the President surely has enough momentum and enough evidence to. To bring down the hammer on some of these Democrats, because they surely would against him with far less evidence. And. And they're going to do it. If they win, if they're successful on the other side of this. If we don't do it now, we know what they're going to do. They're going to round us up, they're going to prosecute us, they're going to throw us under the jail and make us watch gay porn or. And I, you know, in solitary confinement or whatever. Yeah, they're not hiding it. They're not hiding it. And. And that's, you know, that's what we're. We're headed towards if, you know, we don't play hardball. So, you know, I even worry here in Minnesota that the witch hunt show trials and, you know, prosecution lawfare will start on me in my race leading up to this 20, 26 midterms. But that's just the way it has to be. We have to go, Max, because that. That's what this political war is about right now.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, Royce, where do people go, social media and particularly your website, about your race in. In Minnesota? Because now more than ever, Minnesota needs you, sir.
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Royce White
Royce White US. That's the Senate campaign website. You can find me on all social media platforms, on war rooms pages at night, on war room streaming, the podcast. Please call me crazy. You can find me on YouTube. Rumble. I'm everywhere. Thanks for having me, Steve. Appreciate it, brother.
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Steve Bannon
Gay porn in solitary. I knew Royce was going to pivot back to that, given the shot he took at poor Don Lemon at the beginning. Royce White. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you always. One of the most important states in elections, as you know, is Arizona. On Saturday, they're voting on the chairman of the Arizona party. There's been Some issues with this over the years. Kathleen Wynne from Tucson is running. Ma', Am, why should people. Why should MAGA getting back at you as the chairman of the Republican Party in Arizona. Ma', am.
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Kathleen Winn
I'm the chairman currently of Pima county, the second largest county in the state. We've been fighting back for a year. We just got some election. We haven't had observers here, Steve, in Tucson, all the 14 other counties. David, we just got the attorney general, the governor and the AG, who are all Democrats, to agree with us that we should be able to have observers, and we continue to fight back. Election integrity is important. I've been working on that for many years. But we're at war if we don't save Arizona this election. We know we have had election fraud in Arizona. We were probably ground zero for that. And we have to take this state back and put Republicans in leadership, all up and down. We have to keep our legislature.
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Steve Bannon
But why has there been so little driving force? It's a priority for the president. He just tweeted again today about this 2020 election. Why does it seem like Republicans can't get their act together to move on election integrity in Arizona?
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Kathleen Winn
Well, I have been working on it, but the problem is we have a lot of infighting. We are not focused on the mission. The mission is to register voters, but more importantly, to get those voters out. And you can't do that if you're not in communication with them, if you don't have a plan. The Democrats don't have a strategy. They have rhetoric, and we have results. Look at this president. We have so much that the public should be aware of, but it gets in the way because we're so fighting. We're not fighting with ourselves. We're fighting with the Democrats. So we have to take control of the narrative, raise money and get the job done. We have a primary in six months. I'm in. I'm on the field right now. I'm just asking to be promoted, to get the job done for Arizona. And I. I'm competent. I can raise the money. I can communicate. But most importantly, we can get Republicans elected by ensuring that we bring focus. Our Secretary of State right now, Steve, is refusing to give the DOJ our voter rolls. He says he's protecting the voters and their Social Security numbers. The federal government has their Social Security numbers. How ridiculous. So I'm hoping that we have indictments. I'm hoping that the DoJ is taking a hard look at Arizona. And I think the whole country knows that our election systems are broken. And you need strong leadership at the top of the Republican Party to ensure that we keep that front and center, that our Democrat leadership in our state has failed. Arizona, it's time for a change.
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Steve Bannon
Kathleen, where do people go for social media, where they go for your website to find all about this and how important this race is in the vote.
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Kathleen Winn
It's winforchair.com or you can hear me Monday through Friday on 1030 the Voice. Win Tucson and China Watch. Wednesday is one of your favorites. So we appreciate that and we are trying to inform, educate and take back our party and make sure that Arizona stays red. Thank you.
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Steve Bannon
By the way, one of the best anti CCP broadcasts ever on Wednesday. That one hour is fantastic. Kathleen, thank you, ma'.
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Mike Lindell
Am.
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Steve Bannon
Thank you for being a fighter.
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Kathleen Winn
Thanks, Steve. Thanks for having me on. God bless.
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Steve Bannon
Whenever everybody go over to that website today and check it out. Sean Davis, thank you for. I know you had to step out of a meeting and force us and get us in here for a couple of minutes, but you're one of the most even handed guys I know. A steady Eddie, not a guy's hair on fire. This tweet you put out, Trump's DOJ needs to throw out all these people in prison. Get on it. Pam. Bonnie, I mean, you went off. What is your frustration, sir? Because I think it's shared by a lot of members of our audience.
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Sean Davis
Yeah, I'm frustrated in that it feels like I'm in a slow motion train wreck reenactment of 2020 with the BLM riots. And we see lots of tough talk and we don't see a whole lot of action. And I know there's stuff happening behind the scenes. I know they're working hard. But we just had a church invaded and assaulted in Minneapolis yesterday. A Christian church. We had a bunch of left wing ICE terrorists read by gay activists led by gay activist Don Lemon going and harassing and assaulting these people. And I hop on Twitter and I see tough tweets and I see lots of rhetoric. I see stuff that they're gonna have the civil rights division of DOJ go after these people with the face act. That's fine, fine. Go bankrupt them with civil stuff. These people have to be in prison. I am sick and tired of seeing Christians gunned down. I'm sick and tired of seeing Christian churches and Christian kids assaulted and murdered in church. I'm tired of seeing my friends murdered on live stream and then nothing happened as a result of this. Okay? We, we have a country here. We have Laws. We have order. We have everything we need to do. And instead of seeing actual order and, and this stuff happening in my own country, I'm hearing a lot about Greenland, I'm hearing a lot about Iran, and I'm hearing a lot about Venezuela. Great. That's fine.
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Steve Bannon
Go.
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Sean Davis
What you need to do there. I want my country to be safe. I want my fellow Christians to be safe in church. And I'm sick and tired of the tough talk and the podcast threats and the tweets. I want to see these people in prison and I want to see them in prison. Yesterday.
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Steve Bannon
We played this in the cold open. We played it again. It was so outrageous. The audience is in rage. Here's what's obvious. Don Lemon's got his own podcast streaming. He knows it's good business for him. They did this on purpose because nobody pushes back. There is no pushback. They think they can go in a Christian church during services and basically harass the people, threaten them with physical violence, and nothing happens. That's why if you don't put it down now, it's just going to ratchet up. Is that not correct, Sean?
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Sean Davis
Yeah, exactly. All it does is metastasize. You either cut out the cancer or you lose the limb or you sacrifice the entire body. Everyone knows this. When you allow this to happen in one little place, it spreads. The infection spreads. It always spreads. So you either have to lance the boil and get the infection out, you have to excise the tumor. But just standing by and doing nothing and sending out tough talk and tough tweets and true socials. I'm sick and tired of it, quite honestly. I want action. I want my country back. I want law and order. I want borders. I want evil, violent, left wing terrorists in prison. And I think I have a pretty simple ask here. My baseline for what should happen to these people is what happened to people on J6. My baseline for what should happen to them is what happened to Douglas Mackey, who got put in prison for a meme, a jokey meme. My baseline is that I want whatever happened to Christian pastors who were silently praying outside abortion mills, who were swatted in the morning, who had pre dawn raids by FBI, who were put in prison for silently praying. That is my baseline for what should happen to these people who go and use violence, who assault churches, who use terrorist activity, to go and try to intimidate law enforcement, who attack our law enforcement, who attack Christians. Every last one of them should be in prison. And they should be in prison yesterday. So, Pam Bondi no more speeches, no more tweets, no more talk. Do your job.
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Steve Bannon
The one of the best laying out the case for why it's a real insurrection in Minnesota is the lead story on the Federalist. This is the site that Sean Davis has started. Sir, where do people go? For your social media, you're on fire right now. And I think it's a clarion call that a lot of people are rallying around. Where do people go? What are your coordinates and how do you get to your site?
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Sean Davis
Thank you, Steve. Well, they can find me on X at Sean. S E A N M D A V. And then of course they can find our amazing journalist, our award winning journalism from the federalist@the federalist.com.
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Steve Bannon
It'S incredible. Sean, thank you so much for carving time out today to make this very blunt statement. We appreciate you, sir.
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Sean Davis
Thank you, sir.
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Steve Bannon
That ties exactly with what POSO is hearing from average citizens out there. They're sending him text messages all the time. Rabbi Wolicki, you're still with us. Okay, let's assume you're with the President this afternoon. He's getting ready to go see the national football championship. What is your recommendation? You've pointed out things that you believe are not going to happen because of the Qatar and Turk involvement in this. What is your recommendation to the President of the United States to sort this thing out? As you see, it should be sorted out.
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Rabbi PW Wielicki
Well, my recommendation is just to stick to the actual 20 point plan that Israel agreed to, that the other side agreed to all the way back when it was announced. This phase two of the 20 point plan is not phase two of the 20 point plan because of the issue we keep discussing, Steve, the disarming of Hamas. Israel's concern is not for what type of civil life is built for the Gazans. And if foreign actors want to come in there and build something wonderful for them, that's great. But we need Hamas to be disarmed. We need our final hostage to be released. Steve Witkoff put out a statement a few days ago before they made the official announcement. The White House made the official announcement of the Board of Peace. And in his statement, he announced that phase two was going to begin. And what he said was as follows, and I'm quoting from his tweet. Phase two establishes a transitional, technocratic Palestinian administration and begins the full demilitarization and reconstruction of Gaza. And then it says the US expects Hamas to comply fully with its obligations, including the immediate return of the final deceased hostage. Failure to do so will bring serious consequences. So look if we stick to that, Israel is fine and this will actually succeed. Bottom line, this is not just about Israel's security. If Hamas is not disarmed, then this will just be more death and destruction and conflict and it'll all blow up and it won't work. That has to happen first. That's my advice to the President.
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Steve Bannon
But you're then signing off on a two state solution because to have Qatar and Turkey in there, Qatar putting the money up and 2 million Gazans staying and Turks providing security, that's a proto Palestinian state, is it not?
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Rabbi PW Wielicki
Listen, who's going to be providing security? Ultimately Israel is going to have a say in that and so long as our security concerns are covered. You want to call it a state, call it a state. Look, we pulled out of Gaza in 2005 and they basically had a state there in Gaza. If they want, they can call it whatever they want. As long as our security is taken care of, we're fine.
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Steve Bannon
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Congressman Brian Mast
Use your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Steve Bannon
Rabbi Willicki, where do people go? Get your analysis. What are your coordinates?
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Rabbi PW Wielicki
I'm at Rabbi PW on X. Make sure to visit the Israel365 YouTube channel where I put up these explainer videos of many things going on in the Middle East. We have one up about Saudi Arabia today and go to israel365action.com and in the Jerusalem Post every couple weeks.
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Steve Bannon
Thank you, sir. Appreciate you coming on.
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Rabbi PW Wielicki
God bless you.
- [46:17]
Steve Bannon
Steve, Joe Allen is going to come back. Thank you, sir. Joe Allen's going to be Natalie Winters and Joe Allen going to join me for the five o'.
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Mike Lindell
Clock.
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Steve Bannon
And of course I got a blockbuster show for the six. We're in Texas. Don't miss it tonight. Nor Bin Laden. The first day of Larry Fink's reign in Davos. You're going to be with us all week, breaking it all down. Your thoughts, ma'? Am?
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Nora Bin Laden
Yes, it's going to be a jam packed week. We have lots to unpack over the next few days. But just to give a little bit of context to the posse, as you know, every year the annual meeting has a title. This year the title is A Spirit of Dialogue, which is incredibly ironic since all their efforts is about squashing our speech. U.S. dissidents or critics of the Davos Globalist cult and elite. But that is the title this year. And I also wanted to show the Posse the COVID of the Global Global Risks Report which is always published the week before just for everybody to get a feel of what to expect when it comes to the talks this week. So I don't know if you can see this. Sorry. It's a. It's a globe at the edge of the precipice with an incredibly ominous background, fiery background. And the list, obviously the number one thread this year that they're talking about is geo economic confrontation. This follows the last couple of weeks, I would assume. So that has been put in there in first place. But second place remains misinformation and disinformation. So this is still very much at the forefront of the week. So we'll be discussing all these topics.
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Steve Bannon
The list will be all as they blame the war room for all this different disinformation and misinformation. But we speak the truth and we provide a platform for truth tellers like Nor Bin laden. Real quickly, 60 seconds on. You use the word culture when you refer to the World Economic Forum. Davos and Davos, man. What do you mean by that?
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Nora Bin Laden
As we've discussed, Steve, you know, this is a cult. They have their ideology, their ideology that they've been pushing forward in these various agendas. The Great Reset Agenda 2030 of the UN now, the horizon has been pushed to 2050 with the opening panel this evening regarding what's to expect or what 2050 do we want? I think is the title of the panel that is starting in a few minutes, actually. So they keep pushing the goalposts, but the goals very much remain the same, which is total control, centralization of power, and centralization of resources, of the world's resources. And there's one word that I want to leave the audience with this evening, which is tokenization. And this is very, very important when it comes specifically to Larry Fink. There is a dedicated panel on the topic, and he has written extensively on it. And this is his end goal, to monetize everything in nature. So during the week, we'll be talking about this as well.
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Steve Bannon
Nora, where do people go? You're covering this nonstop as only you can. Where do people go? What are your coordinates on social media so people get access to. To all of your thinking and observations?
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Nora Bin Laden
Best place is normanladen.substack.com.
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Steve Bannon
Thank you, Ma'.
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Kathleen Winn
Am.
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Steve Bannon
Look forward to seeing you. Hopefully maybe the afternoon show or definitely tomorrow morning. Nor bin Laden.
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Nora Bin Laden
Thank you. Thank you, Steve.
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Steve Bannon
As you know, we do unique coverage on Davos every year. This is how we defeat the globalist. Mike Lindell, I gotta tell you, I'm gonna have you on maybe tomorrow, the next day, or maybe in the afternoon about this situation in Minnesota. The church is being stormed. Don Lemon and these people terrorizing, terrorizing the young people and mothers with babies, yelling at them, putting a car. It is unacceptable. And I think people are so proud of how you're standing up. But to kick off a Monday, we need to hear about a topper, a mattress, you know, do some. Some commerce to kick the week off, sir.
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We're back here.
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