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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, STEPHEN K. Band. It's Thursday, the 22nd of January in the year of our Lord 2026. So we're going to be streaming the Jack Smith of it all on our. On our streaming side. I don't want to miss that. We'll be dipping back into that as. As necessary. As you know, Ben Berkwan has been our guy at the border for five years, of which this show led everybody else in coverage. We're the first people sent people the Darien Gap, sent them down to Latin America. Talk about what was driving this, because it was organized. We kept saying this is not anarchy or chaos at the border. That's the mainstream media every day. That this was highly organized. It had to be highly organized to get, I don't know the official numbers. 12, 13 million. The unofficial number. President Trump keeps quoting 2025. This is just on Biden's watch. This was highly organized. This is why. Very serendipitous. That go to Tom Holmans being honored. Tom Holman's being honored by. By Catholics for Catholics, the conservative traditional Catholic organization headed up by John. Yep. Because. Yep. Saying they're taking responsibility. Catholic Charities was in the middle of this. Lutheran Charities in the middle of this. You had a couple of these Jewish charities. They were a central part. These NGOs are a central part of it. An absolutely central part. It was highly organized. And this is my point about mass deportations. We can't blink. We can't look the other way. So somebody's going to have to drive this. And if it's got to be the war room. Look, we drove the exposure of all this and we'll drive the response and the solution because they all got to go. Now. The last couple days, Chris Cuomo and Scott Jennings, they jumped Scott Jennings the other night. If I have time, I'll play it tonight, if not tomorrow. They jumped Scott Jennings the other night for using the phrase illegal aliens. He got jumped on cnn and then you got Chris Cuomo doing a beat down on him. Oh, this term is so terrible. It's gotta be. No, they're illegal aliens. That's the official term. Now, thank God at this time that we're now having this national debate about is it just bad hombres, what's happening, this insurrection with the sanctuary cities we've talked about for years now it's coming to the forefront. They're trying to block. What they're trying to do is cause such negative optics, right? These insurrectionists, these radicals trying to cause so much optics that you actually blink and you don't do the mass deportations. And to do the mass deportation, we said time and time again, you got to go to these companies, you got to per. Pork out some CEOs, people that are obviously hiring these people nonstop. On top of this or in the middle of this comes a book and a guy that not only lays it all out of how it was done, he's saying, hey, wake up. This just does. Wasn't some natural phenomena. This. There was not the second law of thermodynamics that that played here, right? That this was deliberate, and it was deliberate by the enemies of this country. He actually takes the Red Green alliance, the what you're seeing govern New York City right now, the Marxist jihadist Red Green alliance, and ties it back to foreign powers to say this invasion of the country happened on purpose. And you cannot understand it until you understand that fact. And once you understand that fact, you're going to have a whole different set of policy solutions. He says, what we said from the beginning, this is the central national security issue facing the United States of America. So I'm honored to bring on my old colleague, Peter Schweitzer. And Peter, I gotta tell you, brother, in riding shotgun with you for years on some of these books you did that were so important and changed the conversation so much. This, I believe, is by far your most important book. And I tell everybody, you've got to buy this book if you're a war room posse member and have lived with us through this for five years and saw the Berkwams and saw the Oscar Blue Ramirezes and all the people. MICHAEL yns Everybody was sent to the border into Central America and then up into the, you know, every, every. Every town's a border town, every state's a border state. We started that mantra here, you years ago with the we build the wall. And we knew this was going to happen. This book, Peter, first off, is your most important, I think, by far. And it could not come in a more perfect time because this is going to inform this debate with an intellectual substrate that people will finally start to connect the dots. So talk to me. How did you come up with the idea of it? Because you, I know you do years of research and how did you have. And how did this just come about? The exquisite timing of this, sir?
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Well, I wish I could say it was part of a master plan. The timing, it wasn't. I do a book every two years and I felt like there's been a lot of discussion about immigration, but most of it, as you pointed out, Steve, it's about wages, it's about our culture, it's about crime on the streets. That's all importance, but that's a debate about immigration. What people were not looking at and did not appreciate by and large, was the weaponization of immigration and how it actually is a weapon deployed against us. And one of the things that really motivated me, Steve, was the research. You know, I started looking into immigration. I started running across these quotes by senior Mexican officials. And I thought, this, this is just crazy. I mean, do they really mean this? And I kept finding them. I'll give you an example of one that I found very early. This is from one of the most powerful senators in Mexico. He's a member of the Morena Party, the ruling party. He sits on the National Defense Committee, which is the most powerful committee in the Mexican Senate. And he said just a couple years ago, quote, mexicans are in our territories, California, Nevada, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado and Wyoming. We're going to take back the territory that was stolen from us. And another one, this is from a government report in December of 2024 by one of Sheinbaum's top aides. Wright writes in this government report, quote, we already know that the Mexican population in the United States reaches 39.9 million. We Mexicans are reclaiming our territory. So I looked at this and I thought, okay, well, this is just a bunch of bravado from, you know, blow hard Mexican politicians. And then I started looking at what is the apparatus that Mexico has in the United States. And I found that, you know, the United Kingdom and China have six and seven consulates, respectively. Mexico has 53. And I started looking at what Mexico is doing with those consulates and I found out that they're organizing protests. They're still organizing some of these anti ICE protests. They've got a consulate up in the Twin Cities right now. That's neck deep in what's going on in Minneapolis. But I also found that they were meddling in our politics. They were literally meeting with Democratic party activists in 2024. How are we going to stop Trump? We got to stop Trump. We turned California from red to blue. We turned Arizona from red to blue. We've got to stop Trump. So that was sort of the cascading effect that, that led me to deep dive into Mexico, to deep dive into China, which has their own sophisticated way of doing this and looking at the Muslim Brotherhood and other actors. And this is where I ended up.
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But so hang on. Everybody's always taken this discussion as Mexico is like a neutral entity or has no involvement whatsoever. No, because when you read the book, so everybody, right now, the book's in bookstores. It just got released. Or you can go to Amazon or you can go to Peter's site. You have to read this book because it ties it all together. Here's what's disturbing. Correct me if I'm wrong, Peter Schweitzer. When I'm reading the book, I'm going, these are kind of acts of war, are they not? In the modern. As we talk about unrestricted warfare and the doctrine of the ccp, clearly it's been informed in Mexico. They're an active participant. And this is not even the change of any one government in Mexico. Mexico as a national entity, as a political entity, is at war officially with the United States of America. Understanding that the migration part of it, the reclaiming of what was either purchased in the Gasson purchase or one in the Mexican American War or with the Texas War of Independence or what was done in California and Utah, all of it. They're on an active program. Part of their government at least is on a very active program to take that back from the United States of America, including involvement on American soil of Mexican government officials, sir.
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Yeah, no, no, you're exactly right. One of the quotes I ran across, by the way, was from a gentleman who's the head of the Mexican Press association, basically their Associated Press. This is a quote from 2025. And he said, look, we're taking back portions of the United States. Let's hope that the gringos don't realize this because they're going to become diabolical when they, when they real going on. But to your point, Steve, they are actively engaged in this activity which completely violates our sovereignty. And it happens on a couple of levels. One is these consulates 53 of them. More, far more than anybody else. Diplomatic officials go around, I quote them in the book, talking about, we are going to retake back this territory. We have consular officials that are involved in the riots in Los Angeles in 2025 and helping organize them to fan the flames, make them more radical. We also have them in, In May of 2024, I got a copy of the transcript of a meeting that took place at the Oklahoma City consulate. There's a, there's a Mexican consulate in Oklahoma City. Who knew. And they invited diplomats from the consulates from Los Angeles to Orlando and all the consulates in between. They flew in officials from Mexico City, from the Foreign Ministry. There was a video address from the foreign minister herself. And the only other group that was, there was, was, was basically Democratic Party activists. And the discussion was, how are we going to undermine the Republicans? How are we going to defeat the Democrats? But in addition to that, Steve, there's another layer. And this was, again, I was totally shocked about this. I consider myself pretty well informed on, on US Mexico relations. Mexico has, living in the United States, dozens of elected officials that sit in the Mexican Senate. They sit in the Chamber of Deputies, which is their parliament. They sit in those bodies. They, they work for the Mexican government, but they live full time in the United States. Why? Because their job is to represent Mexicans living in the United States. A massive intrusion into our sovereignty. So you've got a guy that, that lives in Los Ang who serves in the Mexican parliament. You have a lady who is from Arizona who sits in the Mexican Parliament. She, by the way, supports legislation to turn California into the 33rd state of Mexico, tells you where she's coming from. And there's another guy that sits in the Mexican Parliament who's also the head of international operations for the Morena Party. And I quote him, he went across the United States in 2025. And what was his job, his self described job was to organize the militants because he's organizing the resistance to the American government, the Trump administration. He's meeting with antifa linked people. He's meeting with migrant activist groups. And he describes himself as a militant. So when you say that, oh, well, this is a declaration of war. People can call it whatever they want. This is what Mexican authorities are doing. And it's not that they kind of want to sort of talk to us about immigration issues. That's not what they're doing. They're talking about undermining. And they are undermining the sovereignty of the United States. Using Mexican government officials to do so.
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So hang on for a second. This book is absolutely revolutionary in the way it frames this. Not just with the Chinese Communist Party, but the Mexican government. Remember, we've talked forever about, oh, the cartels. It's the cartels. This cartel is that. This is the official policy of the Mexican government. The whole discussion of mass deportations is about to change because I guarantee you a lot of this information has not gotten to the Commander in Chief of the United States of America. And when he fully understands exactly what's going on, been going on and not getting all the information, I think there's going to be a dramatic change in policy. We're going to take a short commercial break. Peter Schw. It's ironic. We're going to go out with Johnny Khan, one of the great guys over at Breitbart. Peter was an editor there for years, very closely associated with the Breitbart team. We're going to take a short commercial break. We're going to turn with Peter schweitzer the blockbuster. Mr. Buck, everybody. I want Grace Mo, everybody, put in the chat. Let's push this thing hard. Short break.
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Sign up for free and be part of the movement. Okay, so the purpose of this exercise, War Room Posse, is that we. This book must open. It's not a. Oh, we really wanted to. This book must open at number one in the New York Times bestseller list. Just the way industries are structured, the New York Times kind of runs the deal. And conservative books have to have overwhelmingly overwhelming purchases because they only count, as we can tell you, they only count. So many of conservatives. Remember Jack Posobic, War Room Books. I think we opened at 10 with unhumans. The book should open much higher. Peter Navarro's book, all of It Only Counts. So, Peter, our exercise here. Where's the best place to go in your mind or your opinion that we make sure that we actually count to the New York Times? Is it on Amazon? Do people go to a bookstore and ask for it and buy it? Because normally your books are not displayed up front. The more powerful the book, the more it's stuck in the stacks. So where do we go, particularly for this week? And I want everybody to get this, because here's why we need that.
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We need to force this into the conversation. I mean, once upon a time, when Peter and I were working together towards the end, you would be on 60 Minutes. I mean, you're the one that actually got people talking about Nancy Pelosi. Now you expose Nancy Pelosi for the phony she is for the insider trading and actually had a 60 Minutes guy go to her weekly press thing and answer the question. And she melted down on stage. That was. But they're not gonna. I'm sure you're not being embraced by 60 Minutes or the New York Times because this gets to the heart of what this issue is. This was an invasion of the country, very well thought through by enemies of the country and not just randos. Governments. Governments work together with NGOs and others. The Red Green alliance to destroy this country. So this is not going to be embraced, particularly in this heated conversation we're having right now about mass deportations. Of which this book will change everything about that conversation. So where do people go, Peter, in our efforts to make sure that this is driving the narrative?
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Well, thank you, Steve, for your support. Yeah. Pick it up at a local bookstore. That is ideal. If you don't have a local bookstore, they don't have it. You can certainly go. Go to Barnes and Noble or Amazon Online. Costco's carrying it. Yeah. If you buy it. The New York Times has a weird algorithm. The way that they determine what's number one, it's not really based just on sales. It's based on where they're purchased. So local bookstores first. And if not, Amazon would be great. We've been number one on Amazon for all books for the last four days, so we're certainly resonating and I appreciate everybody buying the book.
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Well, no, the exclusives on New York Post, the exclusives in Breitbart, I think I saw one of a Daily Mail have been blockbusters. Explain the sub headline. Before we get back to Mexico, explain the sub headline how America's elites and foreign powers Used Immigration as a weapon. You're saying the elites in this country actually knew what was going on with these foreign powers and worked in conjunction with them. Is that being a collaborationist?
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Yeah, I mean, basically, the hierarchy of the Democratic Party realized in the 1990s that mass migration was a political winner for them. And I quote them as saying that in the book. It started with Bill Clinton in 1996 when he was up for reelection. They decided that they were going to eliminate criminal background checks on people's citizenship applications. They ignored the literacy requirements. They ignored the moral test requirements because they wanted to meet new voters. And in fact, they were in the White House. They were emailing back and forth saying people are going to accuse this of running voter mills, which is exactly what they were doing. What's interesting to point out is that started it and every president since has done the same thing. Obama did it, and Joe Biden did it. If you look at the three biggest years for naturalizing the most citizens in a given single year, it was 1996, Bill Clinton's reelection, 2012, Barack Obama's reelection, and 2024, Joe Biden's attempted reelection. So the Democratic Party has recognized this in terms of new voters. They also recognize it, Steve, in the context of accumulating political power, the way we do the census in this country you've talked about this is you count people, you don't count citizens. So places like California are incentivized to have as Many illegals as possible, because it means more congressional seats, it means more electoral votes for the presidential election. It means more block grants from the federal government. Just the state of California, if you look at the illegal population, they have four more congressional districts as a result of illegals being in that state now. Four, you think that may not be a lot? Put that in context. Those four congressional seats that illegals effectively get in California, that's more than the congressional delegations of 13 U.S. states. Thirteen U.S. states have fewer congressmen representing them than the illegals in California do. So it's a political winner for Democrats, and they also see it as a transformative force in America. This is the thing, I think, that's been ignored or has been brushed away by the mainstream media, which is a lot of these advocacies, whether it's Catholic Charities, whether it's Lutheran Services, whether it's some of the other migrant resettlement groups, they openly say that they favor and they support migrants because it's going to have a transformative effect and transform America. We didn't vote for that. They're deciding they wanted to do that because of their political agenda. So that's why you have this domestic component that is working in cohesion with these foreign powers.
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Okay? So understanding and people aren't stupid. In 17, Miller and I had it that we weren't going to count illegals, and we knew we could win in court. It was Wilbur Ross. And these kind of moderate Republicans got all over President Trump and completely reverse it. This is why the census is so screwed up in the 2020 sentence. President Trump saying, it's got to be reversed now, or, you know, we got to do it right. But that was reversed by. And the pressure inside on the kind of Bush element or the Rhino element was tremendous. You skipped one presidency in there. You got Bill Clinton, we got Obama. You skipped Bush. Knowing the facts. And these facts had to be pretty well known at the time. How did Bush end up being a guy that pushed amnesty nonstop? The central part of the. Correct me if I'm wrong, the central part of the Republican Party thing then wasn't even stopping the border invasion or stopping this. It was to grant amnesty and citizenship. So how. What was it in the Republican Party that made people not just look the other way, but kind of be a junior partner to the. To the element in this. The. The official element in this country that was trying to radically transform the nation?
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It's a great question, Steve. There is an individual, I'm trying to remember his name right now. He's in the book that was advising both George W. Bush and John McCain in his 2008 presidential campaign. What's interesting about this individual is that he, at the same time that he's advising George W. Bush and John McCain, he is also the head of a government office in Mexico, which is the office of Mexicans Overseas. It's run out of the Foreign Ministry. So you literally have a Mexican government official who's advising Bush and advising the McCain campaign on issues related to. Related to amnesty, while his government job in Mexico is the liaison between the Mexican government and those Mexican Americans that are illegally inside the United States. So this, again, I think, is where our naivete and our blind ignorance as it relates to Mexico comes into play. Most people you talk to, Steve, will say they're corrupt, they're hapless, they're not capable of doing anything. They're actually pretty sophisticated when it comes to this stuff because they know the stakes are very high. And they know that the more that they can exert sovereignty inside the United States, effectively reclaiming territory, the more political power and leverage that they are going to have. And they take that very, very seriously. And they've penetrated part of our leadership class. And that, I think, explains part of the reason some of our elites are turning a blind eye.
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If you look at Trip, you get the Chinese Communist Party. You've got these elites in this country that are actively working for this, to transform the country in conjunction with our. Our enemies. It's always been blamed on the kind of cartels run the deal down there. Are you saying that we've taken a thing that these. The Mexican government's hapless. They're a bunch of clowns. But it sounds like from the book, when you read it, is the exact opposite. You got some very sophisticated people and working in conjunction with the cartels and with the Chinese Communist Party to flood the country with drugs and fentanyl at the same time, have an active political campaign here to turn votes. We got a minute in this block. Your thoughts on that?
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Yeah, no, exactly. And the drug cartels are very important here because, yeah, they sell drugs, they make a lot of money. They actually make more money off of human trafficking, or at least they did when the border was open. And what they've done, Steve, is the drug cartels in Latin America are influencing American politics. Some of the individuals linked to these Latin American drug cartels are part of a organization called Progressive International that was started by Bernie Sanders in 2017. It's run by his foreign advisors, AOC, Craig Zazar, numerous members of Congress are involved with this organization. They have leadership that is linked to the drug cartels. And Progressive International pushes a number of policies, but one of them is open borders. The other one is to end the war, the military war against the drug cartels. So the drug cartel problem is not a Mexico problem only. It's starting now to infiltrate and leak into American politics as well.
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Peter, just hang on. We're going to continue this. We're going to shift focus now to the Chinese Communist Party, the existential threat to the United States of America. Invisible Couple. I cannot recommend this book higher. Also give it to people that sit there and laugh at you for why you're so focused on this issue of illegal immigration into this country, of mass deportations. When your best friend, your golfing partner, tennis partner, somebody just comes to the house, somebody you hang out with is saying, oh, this is ridiculous. What you talk about is ridiculous. Just give them the book. Give them invisible coup. Say, suck on this Short break. Back with Peter Schweitzer in a moment.
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No, we quote the French poet all the time. See, the first requirement you have is to see what you see. That is the power of this book. The invisible coup. Many things we've been talking about for years, not just here, but on Breitbart Radio News. All of it is summarized in this book with deeply reported deep investigating reporting from Peter Schweitzer, as only Peter Schweitzer can do. The purpose of our exercise, remember, we have task and purpose here at the War Room. Your agency. Your agency is to get this book, to read this book, to share this book. And we're gonna be talking about this book every day because this informs the efforts for mass deportation. The mass deportation is not an option. It's not an option. And as this book shows, it's so much deeper than bad hombres. There's lots of bad hombres to the tens and hundreds of thousands. That was also part of the program. But it's deeper than that. It was about scale. They want to take over and destroy this country. It's obvious these are acts of war you can call everywhere, but in the modern world, these are acts of war. These are acts of war. This is what the Chinese called unrestricted warfare. Political, psychological, economic. You don't need to come across with an invading army that's shooting and landing like at Normandy or terroir. You do it like this. That's the book, Peter. I've got you for this segment. And then we're going to figure out how to get you back on. But I want the audience, buy this book, share this book, buy a couple of copies. Particularly, as I tell you, when a book is great, those people in your life that you're close to, but you can't have conversations about certain things and it hurts you. You would love to be able to do it, but it's just so thrown down. My own brother was telling me about a guy he works for, Peter works with. That's a guy that's a really good guy. But when you talk about this topic, he shuts out. And my brother said, well, you know, there's like 12, officially 12 or 13 million here on this vision. The guy goes, I've never heard that number. That's something like your brother makes up. I've never heard that number. No, but that's. What's the power of this book? Because this is so deeply researched. Now, the question I want to ask you and kick off this block, because we'll have you back and we're going to go into the deep thing of the Chinese commerce. For all of it. Previous books of yours have actually driven policy once upon a time, folks, and they talk about insider trading today. Peter Schweitzer, Steve Bannon, the Government Accountability in Breitbart. We actually stopped insider trading for a moment when you had a scandal that blew people's heads up. So what do you hope? You've changed policy before, and you changed DC Even when it didn't want to. You changed the swamp even when the swamp didn't want to change. What do you want? What do you want this book to accomplish? What is your focus of what you hope you achieve here?
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Well, Steve, I thought you put it. Well, the first thing I want to is for us to adopt the mindset who are concerned about these issues. This is not just about bad hombres. This is not just about wages. Those are important issues. This is about civilizational warfare. That is how our adversaries define it. So what that means is it's not just about kicking criminals out of the country. It is about deconstructing the political networks and the action networks, the direct action networks that our adversaries have put up in our country. Mexico does not need 53 consulates. I'm sorry, China and UK get, get by with six and seven. So we need to do that. We also need to kick out of the country political figures and diplomats that are meddling in our politics. They've formed alliances with nonprofit organizations. Foreign government should not be doing that in the United States for the purpose of political action as it relates to China. There are a whole host of things that need to be done. We'll talk more about that in the future. But I'll just give you a simple one, Steve. Right now in the United States, we are training literally thousands of Chinese pilots who are going to be flying for the People's Liberation Army Air Force and are going to be facing off against our pilots. It happens because they come. These pilots come here on student visas. Remember what happened on 9 11? Those guys trained at our flight schools, flew them into buildings. These guys are training at our flight schools, and they're going to be squaring off against our fighter pilots in the future. So. So we should ban that. Some of these things can be done at the executive level.
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Hold on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. But I got to have you. I got to have you spend a second on that. That was exclusive on Breitbart the other day. My head blew up because I thought I knew everything. I Go. Oh, my God. I never even knew this or heard of it. Walk me through that. Take a second. Explain to the people how in the United States of America, we are training, sometimes a textbook expense. The very pilots who are going to be the pilots that go after carrier strike groups in the South China Sea, in the Straits of Taiwan, when the invasion of Taiwan, which is coming, comes. Sir.
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Yeah, yeah. Well, so China has a pile of problems, Steve. They need 5,000 new pilots every year, military and commercial. They can only produce 1250 domestically. That's what the Chinese government says. So what they've done is they send pilots over here to train, paid for by the government, by the way. It's $90,000 per student to come and train to the United States. They're being trained right now at an Air Force base, a former Air Force base outside of Merced, California. This was a base that was crucial in World War II. It was crucial in the Cold War. It was mothballed. At the end of the Cold War, you had a flight school established. It's owned by a Korean investor. It involves a lot of Chinese. They're training at that air base close to a thousand pilots a year. And what happens is these thousands of pilots come and train in the United States. They go back to China. The best pilots that train in the United States then go on for advanced training by the People's Liberation Army, Air Force. The rest will become civilian pilots. But even China's civilian pilots have a military purpose. And that's one of the things the Pentagon has talked about for years. So think about that. We're allowing this to happen. An adversarial country that says that they are at war with us. It's unrestricted warfare. It's disintegration warfare as they've defined it. And we are literally training their pilots at a time. By the way, Steve, when we have a shortage of domestic pilots inside the United States, it's stunning. That's something, I think, that can be fixed almost immediately by simply saying, I'm sorry, we're not going to grant student visas to pilots come and train to then fly against us in a possible future war.
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I want to. I want to unpack two. Two concepts for the audience to. To start to wrestle with one. You said constantly they talk about civilizational warfare, and you just talked about disintegration warfare. Can you explain those two constructs to our audience?
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Yeah. Civilizational warfare. So I quote in the book, one of the leading theoreticians at the party school, that is the C. Party school, who is very, very close to President Xi, who describes that, that China's beef with the United States is not over markets. It's not about gdp. It's not ultimately even about a military conflict. It is about civilizational warfare. And in the words of this theoretician, this is only like two years ago. He said, the goal is to supplant the Christian civilization of the west and its obsession with individual rights. They want that gone. They believe that they have a superior civilization. So the point is they're not interested in a sphere of influence. They're not interested in just kicking us out of the Pacific. So they're dominant. They want to see our civilization decline and, and ultimately be destroyed. Disintegration warfare is a term. It's actually a book that was written in 2012 by Chinese military officers. President Xi has endorsed the book and studied it. And what disintegration warfare says is that we are going to engage in pitched battles against the west just below the threshold of a kinetic war. In other words, we're not going to launch missiles at them, we're not going to launch aircraft, but we are going to do everything short of that to diminish and defeat this civilization. That includes fentanyl and drug warfare. That means cultural warfare, that means anything, is a potential weapon. And this is the way that they view their relationship with the United States. We like to divide the world between war and peace. China sees it as a continuum that goes from. Goes from white to gray to black. And that is what disintegration and warfare is about. Doing everything you can short of war to undermine and defeat your enemy.
A
In reading your book, how can you come away in this current discussion about artificial intelligence and advanced chip design and the ecosystem? You have to have to actually have artificial intelligence. And that is the education process where we have 350,000. Even the president talking about going to 600,000. You have Chinese nationals in our national labs. You have them in the companies in Silicon Valley being trained every day. We're providing debt and equity financing nonstop. Sequoia Capital and others are at the vanguard of financing the Chinese military's most advanced technology. And now we get Jensen Wong lecturing us every day about how, hey, it doesn't matter if China or Chinese companies win the AI race, it's all going to be great at the end. And then you just have somebody like the David Sachs crowd saying, oh, we really want to get them onto our chips. And it even came out today, a bigger, bigger press to give the Chinese. Your book rips off the mask. They're at war with us. We've said this for years. There is no doubt they're at a civilizational war. They're patient, they're tough, they play the long game and they're winning. Peter Schweitzer.
B
Yeah, yeah, no, they are. I mean, I'll give you just one example of how brilliant and frightening they are. This whole issue of birthright citizenship, right? I mean, we know about it. The Supreme Court is considering the case. This notion that if you happen to be in the United States and a child is born, that child automatically becomes a US Citizen. And here's the problem, Steve. Our federal government has zero idea of how many children are granted citizenship through this birthright citizenship every year. They don't keep track of it. They have no idea when you get a birth certificate in the United States. They don't list the nationality of the parents. So they have zero, zero idea of how many people have done this. But the Chinese government has looked into this and Chinese research firms have looked into this, and the numbers are absolutely horrifying. Their belief is that every single year, for the past 13 years, every single year, roughly 100,000 Chinese babies have been born in the United States. These babies, by the way, are taken back to China. They are the children of elites, military officers. There's one military officer I talk about who has three children. He's a senior PLA military officer, has three children. They're all U.S. citizens, but they all go back to China. They're raised in CCP schools, they're raised in that environment. When they turn 18 years old, Steve, they're going to be able to vote, they're going to be able to donate to political campaigns. They're going to be able to apply for government jobs. So this is what I call the Manchurian generation. We had the Manchurian candidate. This is the Manchurian generation. And just remember, these new wave of voters are going to be hitting in a couple of years. The 2016 election, I know you know this well, was settled by what, 80,000 votes. So this is a massive industrial scale exploitation of our immigration system. This is not rando. Cases of people happen to be here and they give birth to a child. The Chinese have perfected this model of subversion and they are going to use it against us unless the Supreme Court does something about birthright citizenship.
A
Peter, where do folks go? We need everybody. I hope you rattled audience. I hope you're rattled to your core. Because this book, if you read it, will rattle you to your core. And you've just And Peter's just had, you know, we've had 45 minutes. Let's go over the very, very surface of this in Peter's research, the many years he spends in his team. Peter, where do people go? We got about 60 seconds. Where do people go to get this book to buy it today?
B
You can buy it at Amazon. You can buy it at Barnes and Noble. If you have an independent local bookstore or Barnes and Noble, go there. That seems to weigh more to the New York Times ranking than anything else. And give us your feedback. By the way, we have a website, the invisible coup.com. we'd love to hear from you and we'd love to have you engage in social media as so many of you do, to spread the message. We've been to Capitol Hill, Steve. We're going to go back to Capitol Hill. We're talking to people in the administration. We want action. We don't want people just scared. We want action.
A
Real quickly, your Twitter feed. Where do people go for Twitter social media?
B
You can go to Peter Schweitzer or you can go to Peter Schweitzer. Is my website at Peter Schweitzer on Twitter?
A
Yeah. Thank you, brother. Monumental work. Monumental.
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Date: January 22, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guest: Peter Schweitzer (Author of "The Invisible Coup: How America's Elites and Foreign Powers Used Immigration as a Weapon")
This episode centers on the newly released book "The Invisible Coup" by investigative journalist Peter Schweitzer. Bannon and Schweitzer argue that recent waves of mass migration into the United States are not mere accidents or failures of policy, but a deliberate strategy orchestrated by foreign powers—particularly Mexico and China—and abetted by American elites and NGOs. They frame this as an act of "civilizational warfare" that threatens U.S. sovereignty and national security.
The discussion is wide-ranging, delving into the organization behind illegal immigration, foreign meddling in U.S. politics, the role of NGOs, and the infiltration of American institutions by adversarial interests. Schweitzer claims these dynamics represent a form of "unrestricted warfare" against America.
"This is not anarchy or chaos at the border... This was highly organized." (02:01)
"What people were not looking at... was the weaponization of immigration and how it actually is a weapon deployed against us." (05:50)
"Mexico has 53 [consulates]. And I started looking at what Mexico is doing with those consulates and I found out that they're organizing protests... meddling in our politics. They were literally meeting with Democratic party activists in 2024." (07:36)
"Mexico has, living in the United States, dozens of elected officials that sit in the Mexican Senate... their job is to represent Mexicans living in the United States." (11:22)
"This is the official policy of the Mexican government. ...Mexico as a national entity, as a political entity, is at war officially with the United States of America." (09:16)
"The whole discussion of mass deportations is about to change because I guarantee you a lot of this information has not gotten to the Commander in Chief." (13:46)
"The hierarchy of the Democratic Party realized in the 1990s that mass migration was a political winner for them." (20:18)
“California... has four more congressional districts as a result of illegals being in that state now.” (21:50)
"They've penetrated part of our leadership class. And that, I think, explains part of the reason some of our elites are turning a blind eye." (25:54)
“Progressive International pushes... open borders... to end the war against the drug cartels.” (26:51)
"These are acts of war. This is what the Chinese called unrestricted warfare. Political, psychological, economic." (30:58)
"They’re being trained right now at an Air Force base…close to a thousand pilots a year. …They go back to China. The best... train for the People's Liberation Army Air Force." (35:24)
"The goal is to supplant the Christian civilization of the west and its obsession with individual rights." (37:29)
"Every single year, roughly 100,000 Chinese babies have been born in the United States... These babies... are the children of elites, military officers." (41:01)
"When they turn 18 years old...they’re going to be able to vote, donate to political campaigns...apply for government jobs. …This is what I call the Manchurian generation." (41:41)
"If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved." (00:43)
"We're taking back portions of the United States. Let's hope that the gringos don't realize this..." (10:23, quoting a Mexican Press Association head)
"These are acts of war." (30:58)
"They … realized mass migration was a political winner for them." (20:18) "Four congressional seats…from illegals in California…that’s more than the congressional delegations of 13 U.S. states." (22:15)
"We are training literally thousands of Chinese pilots who are going to be flying for the People’s Liberation Army Air Force..." (33:44) "The Chinese have perfected this model of subversion and they are going to use it against us…" (42:05) "This is the Manchurian generation." (41:41)
The episode opens with Bannon’s rallying cry against what he sees as the orchestrated undermining of America. Through a lengthy and in-depth interview with Schweitzer, the narrative unfolds: mass migration is characterized not as happenstance but as a multidimensional attack on U.S. sovereignty and identity, driven by hostile foreign governments and facilitated by domestic collaborators for political gain. The conversation ranges from Mexican and Chinese government strategies to the mechanics of U.S. political transformation—census, districting, and even the use of birthright citizenship laws—to the notion that America faces "civilizational warfare."
Schweitzer lays out how official Mexican policy now includes “taking back” the Southwest through demographic change and organized political activity. The host and guest both see NGOs and U.S. political and business elites as willing or unwitting accomplices, eager for political or economic benefit.
The episode crescendos with revelations about Chinese pilots training in the U.S., the infiltration of technology and education by Chinese nationals, and a warning about an approaching generation of birthright citizens with divided allegiance.
This episode presents a sweeping, conspiratorial view of mass migration as a hybrid war coordinated by foreign governments, facilitated by cartels, NGOs, and U.S. elites. The tone is alarmist and urgent, imploring listeners to adopt a war footing on immigration policy and to recognize the existential nature of the threat as presented by Bannon and Schweitzer.