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Episode 5096: Bovino To Leave Minneapolis; Deportations To Continue
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Into cnn. Sources tell CNN that top Border Patrol official Gregory Bevino and some of his agents are expected to leave Minneapolis tomorrow. CNN's Priscilla Alvarez is in Washington with more of this. So Priscilla, what are we learning? Because this is obviously a major development here on the ground.
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Yeah, absolutely, Anderson. This really is a major shift in strategy here by the Trump administration. Recall, Gregory Bevino has been a key player in the Trump administration's immigration crackdown and became in many way face of that crackdown across cities in the country, most recently of course, in Minneapolis. And we are now being told by sources that he is going to be departing Minneapolis with some of his Border Patrol agents tomorrow and going back to their respective sectors. What I mean by that is they will go back to their original offices as they had been deployed as part of this crackdown to his team. Now we're also told that part of this has been influenced by the frustrations within the administration over the handling and the public response of Saturday's shooting. So now the decision has been made to have Bevino leave Minneapolis. Of course, he has been a controversial figure in all of this. This doesn't mean though that all Border Patrol agents are leaving. Some will stay to continue supporting Immigration and Customs Enforcement. But the face, the key player of this is going to be leaving the city tomorrow, according to sources. Anderson.
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And very briefly, Priscilla, do you have any idea how many of his agents will be leaving with him? Because he kind of rolls deep with the coterie of folks around him. Is it just those people or is it a larger number?
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We're still trying to get a better sense of numbers, but numbers are always hard to come across because of course, these are immigration enforcement operations and they typically keep those close to the vest. But all the same, his agents still make up a good share of the Border Patrol agents on the ground. So them leaving would certainly make a difference in the city of Minneapolis. Or at least that is the intent here appearing to be the intent here over whether to pause ICE operations in the state potentially permanently indefinitely and to block ice's activity or allow DHS agents to continue its work, which has brought terror to the people in Minneapolis and that community and left two of their residents dead in 17 days. That hearing comes on the heels of a call that Donald Trump and Governor Tim Walz had today. Walz office said that Trump agreed to speak to the Department of Homeland Security to ensure that, quote, state investigators are able to conduct independent investigations into the federal officers shootings of Alex Preddy and Renee Nicole.
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Good yet Democrat leaders in Minnesota with sanctuary city policies, have actively defied federal immigration law and the will of the people. And as a result of that defiance, two Minnesotans have now tragically lost their lives on the streets of Tim Waltz's.
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State Secretary Noem said Alex Preddy committed an act of domestic terrorism.
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Stephen Miller labeled Preddy a domestic terrorist. Does the president agree with that?
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Look, as I've said, I have not heard the President characterize Mr. Petty in that way. However, I have heard the president say he wants to let the facts in the investigation lead itself.
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Was he alarmed to hear his top officials referring to him in that way.
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Rushing to that judgment?
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Danny, go ahead. Thanks, Caroline. Okay, so this weekend the president posted that this is a cover up of.
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The fraud in the state of Minnesota. He also posted Minnesota is a cover up.
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These both happened after the shooting. So given that these came after the shooting, what is the this here, what.
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Is the COVID up he's alleging?
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Ms.
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Yes, it's a good question. I've spoken with the president about this at length. What the president is referring to is the fact that you have Governor Walson and again, the mayor who have been encouraging these left wing agitators to come out and to harass and to dox and to threaten ICE and to make this conversation about and smear lies about federal law enforcement who again, are just trying to do their jobs in an attempt to distract from the widespread massive fraud that has taken place in their state. Billions and billions of dollars has been stolen from law abiding taxpayers in Minnesota and the administration continues to be very focused on getting to the bottom of it. It is especially and the president raised a good question over the weekend with respect to Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, who now has a net worth within the millions. And one must ask themselves why and how is that possible? Is she connected to the fraud rings that we have seen taking place within her state and her own district? It's a question the American people are raising and the president believes it's one worth answering.
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In that lawsuit, the plaintiffs were arguing that these federal immigration enforcement tactics by the Trump administration have been violating the constitutional rights of Minnesotans. The argument is that these are indiscriminate and unconstitutional stops and arrests. Of course, the use of force that we've seen, they argue, also violates constitutional rights, including the killings of Renee Goode and Alex Preddy. They were arguing furthermore that the judge should rule essentially immediately. And they were asking for an immediate pause as the litigation proceeds on Operation Metro Surge. But in the hearing today, it didn't seem clear that the judge was actually willing to act as quickly as the plaintiffs want her to. And she also expressed some wariness that this was her decision to make. She expressed some trepidation over wading into what she described as a policy dispute over immigration enforcement between a state and the federal government. Of course, we're also dealing with a pretty rapidly shifting political situation right now in the sense that we've been hearing a pretty markedly different tune from Donald Trump himself than we heard over the weekend from key figures in his administration. In the aftermath of the Alex Peretti killing, Trump is sending Tom Holman, the borders are here to Minnesota apparently to replace Border Patrol Chief Greg Bevino. You know, just context for our viewers, the types of tactics that we've been seeing, these types of tactics that critics describe as reckless and dangerous and which my reporting and many other people's reporting shows have, you know, resulted in. And you know, I should say, for example, former DHS high level DHS officials who are career people, not political appointees have told me that these operations in urban environments in American cities put not only the people of these cities in danger positions, but also the DHS agents involved. Those tactics could be changing in the coming days here in Minnesota if in fact the Trump administration, who, who, you know, Trump also having had this call with Governor Walz, is signaling the possibility of a de escalation or even potentially a withdrawal of federal agents from the city. I've spoken to some local and state officials here to get their reactions to what appears to be this change in the political winds. They say that, you know, these are empty promises. Until they're fulfilled and until they ICE and CBP leave their city, they're not going to be satisfied.
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Nicole. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go.
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To share the big L MAGA media.
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I wish in my soul, I wish.
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That any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
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Monday, 26 January Yerviller 2026 I don't think you can call this Anything but the White House blinking right that walls had this, you know, walls called up and slobbed, glazed President Trump slobbered all over him. But for what we're hearing now that Bavino, who I think Bonvino's done an amazing job in a tough situation, just put in perspective the Republican congressman sat there and allowed this to happen after year after year after year. What'd they do? They called mayorkas a couple times and, and sent some strongly worded letters. They did nothing. They did nothing. 12 to 15 to 20 million illegal alien invaders didn't get here unless the Democratic party drove it and the elites in our country drove it because it benefited them economically. And also the Marxists wanted to shred American society. But the, the Republican Party went along with it. Remember Greg Abbott who's criticizing border patrol right now, criticizing Bovino? He never did anything. He never put, he put, put the barbed wire down there and it wouldn't even tie it together. As the governor of the state, he didn't stop an invasion at all. That's why they're arguing in this primary right now. The attorney generalist race says they're really going to do something this time. It's not going to be like last time. What was done? The House did nothing. They did nothing. So naturally they want to get these people out there. They don't want to deport anybody. Maybe they want to do the worst of the worst, which is a code word, means they're going to get the rapists, the murderers and that's it. Then they're going to leave with millions and millions and millions. The president last night, not me, the president I State said we have tens of millions of criminal alien, criminal aliens in the country. I agree with that because all of them that came here are criminals by doing it. And they all have to go. Tom Homan Going and being deployed is great. Taking Bavino and now not just the folks around here, but it looks like some of the customs and border is a withdrawal, a partial withdrawal. What do we get for that? Did Walls say that the city police are now going to work with them? Did we get the National Guard turned over to the President so we can use the National Guard and they're not in yellow vest being humiliated, handing out coffee and donuts. What did we get? What do we get from Walz? I'd like to know what the facts are here. Home and going is fantastic. If he presses the bet. And now Kristi Noem's got to go before the Judiciary Committee and in addition I bring in Jack Posobic and Jack, thanks for sticking around to do this. They've turned over the investigation. I'm not so sure the President understands what he agreed to, if he agreed to this at all. But Walsh is telling people that the. That the state investigators and Jack, can you please inform people of the state investigation group. What a group. These guys are the worst in the world. We've already seen their track record. Supposedly he's turned an investigation of these federal officials stopping people, domestic terrorists trying to. Because that's what it is. These aren't just citizens of Minnesota. These are domestic terrorist. Jack Posobic.
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Well, Steve, people have to remember, of course, that these investigators in the state investigations offices, BCA in Minnesota, this is all controlled by Keith Ellison. So Keith Ellison is. He is a, of course, as we know, a committed jihadist, committed subversive, but also someone who has promoted and endorsed antifa tactics and specifically by name, held up the antifa book. These are the same investigators who repeatedly lied about Derek Chauvin. They lied about COVID they lied about so many things that were happening under walls. These are people who couldn't find any Somali fraud. Remember they. For all these years, that Somali fraud was going on. These are the supposed investigators who couldn't find a single thing wrong with any of Minnesota's programs. And then suddenly Trump comes in and he brings in Bessant and he brings in Bobby Kennedy and brings in everyone else, and they're auditing things and they pull the books. He got Nick shirley running around, 23 years old, and he's able to figure it all out. So these investigators, they are committed Marxist. They are run by a committed Marxist. All right, this is Tim Walls. The guy went to China 30 times and learned how to run a Marxist insurgency from the Chinese Communist Party themselves. That's why it seems like a Maoist cultural revolution, because that's where he got the idea from. They did it in 2020, they're doing it again in 2026. It's the only fallback. What do the Marxists do? What do the Communists do? You find a martyr. You. You put up your useful idiot as a martyr, and then you. You create the crisis to take the power. You create the crisis to take the power. And they will do it again and again and again if we let them.
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By the way, he sat there for years. He's part of the money laundering and embezzlement. He knew what was going on. And what did he do? He focuses attention on what? The radical Muslim. The radical Muslim focuses attention antifa supporter Focuses attention on Mike Lindell's the little Christian network. He's got to help people in recovery. That knits things together. He went after that. He's put Mike Lindell through the changes in doing that. Because this is how these guys work. Jack, I just want you to stay through the break. But real quickly, if any custom and borders agents leave with Bavino, is that a de escalation? Is that a withdrawal?
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It is a de escalation and it's a changing out. You know, I'd like to know if. If does this mean there's going to be state police and local police helping with ice? I'm a. I'm a supporter of Commander Bovino. I think his tactics have been absolutely appropriate given the situation that he's in and the lack of support that they have had from local officials.
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Bavino has done a magnificent job. The cops were against him. The National Guard was against him. The political apparatus, it's infiltrated. Look at, look at the signal chats. They have people in the department. They have people in dmv. They're giving their licenses. But Vino was there by himself fighting all that. He did a magnificent job. Not a good job. He did a magnificent job when the world was against him. And look at both of these situations where these domestic terrorists, because that's what they are, are trying to intrude in basic police operations. Bovino did a great job. Not an okay job, Not a good job, not a Bravo Zulu. He did a great job. Everything was stacked against him. And what are we getting for that? Has walls come out and said I was wrong and that we're going to support. No, they're taking a victory lap right now. They should take a victory lap right now. This is. You're blinking. You're blinking and it's only going to get worse. There's a lot of politicians that should be getting coal in their stockings for Christmas. But Birchgold thinks as a smart planner, you deserve silver. That's why for every $5,000 you purchase between now and December 22nd, Birch Gold will send you an ounce of silver free. Remember, silver is up over 60% this year and over $60 an ounce. You see, smart people diversify and have a hedge. That's why I encourage you to buy gold from Birch Gold. With the rate cuts from the Fed in 2026, the dollar will be worth less. And what happens if the AI bubble burst? Diversify. Let Birch Gold Group help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA and physical gold. Let me repeat that physical gold. And for every $5,000 you buy, you'll get an ounce of silver for your stocking or for your kids. What a great way to teach them about saving smartly. Just text my name, Bannon B A N N o n to 989-898 to claim your eligibility for this offer. Again, text Bannon B A N N O N to the number 989-898 today because Birch Gold's free silver with qualifying purchase promotion ends the 22nd of December of this year. Make sure you text Bannon 298-9898. Do it today.
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War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Jack, you're an expert because you've been in the field fighting these people, right? For years. You've written books about it. You know the theory of it. I mean, the purpose of the revolution is the revolution. There's no issue you can settle with them. That's not how they roll. And they have a history of success in doing this that they're using this playbook. They're using Lenin's playbook, the Bolshevik playbook, kind of an updated version of the French Revolution playbook. They know it works. What did Cho and Lai say to Kissinger when Kissinger said, hey, when they're sitting there, kind of a quiet period when they mouse a tongue and tell Nixon left and he says, what are your thoughts? What are your thoughts about the French revolution? This is 19 what, 72. Somebody says, too early to tell. That's because he knew there would be Minnesotas in the future. Right? This is, it's whoever's advising the president is not giving the full the straight skinny on exactly what this is. And in addition, if you're going to do something like this, which is horrible, to let Bovino go, who's been heroic in what he's done with the world against him. What'd you get for it? I don't see them talking about walls coming to the microphone with Fry and saying, Fry saying, I was wrong. They're criminals. They're criminals. They should be arrested. Instead of Bavino leaving Minnesota, they should be leaving Minnesota and going to some sort of holding tank until we can put them on trial. The deaths of the two people are as much their responsibility as anyone else. And maybe I'll throw the mainstream media in there for instigating this and instigating it.
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Jack POSOBIC well, Steve, what we're seeing here, of course, is a form of what Lenin referred to as revolutionary defeatism. And by revolutionary defeatism, people will look and say, why? What is going on with Minneapolis? Why is Minneapolis a city that's, you know, 17 of the Fortune 500 companies are headquartered there. It's a great city, the Twin Cities area. Phenomenal place. Why has it been targeted for so much destruction? Why has it been targeted for so much destabilization? This is the revolutionary tactic. The point of the pro, the vanguard, the proletariat is this. They want their cities to fall. They want their governments to fall. So if you are a committed Marxist, if you are a committed Bolshevik, you want your city to fall. And then you will agitate, agitate, agitate, agitate until power is given to you from those who are seeking to impose law and order. And you. And so they. They used revolutionary defeatism. This is why they pulled out of World War I when they were just a couple of weeks away from Constantinople from liberating that. This is why they got all of. All of Russia to back. And eventually what do they do? They call it the weakest link theory. Then they start looking for the weak links. Where are the weak links in the chain? Where are the weak links where we can apply pressure next? And where do they do they move just like water. They move pressure to the weak links in the chain and they push and push and push until the entire status quo, the entire government, the entire civilization is destroyed. This is civilization versus barbarism. You cannot make deals with these people.
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Lenin loved it. Trotsky loved it. When they announced, the Imperial Russians announced that they were going to fight the Austrian Hungary Empire and go to war, they loved it. They realized that war would preoccupy. It's an opportunity cost. They would preoccupy the same thing with the Chinese Communist Party in World War II. They didn't fight the Japanese. They sat there and fought the Nationalists. They fought the Nationalists and killed any people that were working with the Nationalists. They killed more Chinese than Japanese. They used wars, they used conflicts as time. This is why the problem with our country, the issue in our country is not in the streets of Tehran. That's all phony. Of course they're bad guys. They're terrible people. And the people in Persia should take them down and do what you want with them. It's your deal. But pulling a carrier battle group and having all this focus and going into national security meetings and not spending the time on Minnesota because that, that is the festering sword, that's where you got a lance to boil. Not in Tehran. Not in Tehran. Now all this thing, they got all this muscle and they're coming in. That is a waste of focus. The focus has got to be in Minnesota. And you don't focus by pulling Bavino, who's had the guts and been personally attacked to go out there and nobody helped him. Did we cut off funding for the police? Did we cut off for the National Guard? Did we order the National Guard not to report to walls? Walls, Jews, they step back and let these agents at the hands of a mob. Just look at the videos. Don't take it from me. Don't take it from Posobic. See what you see? See what they've done? And there's no negotiation with them. They don't want any illegal aliens. Even the rapists and murders. They don't want anybody to go. They don't want anybody to go. You know why? Their entire business model is set upon having 15 or 20 million illegal aliens in this country. They can't win. What did Jesse Kelly say? They probably got 20% of the populace to vote for them. The rest of it's got to be stolen. Elections are illegal alien invaders. Jack, this is so basic in the present. What's happened? You got these classic, gutless, feckless Republicans who got us this. If they had a better idea, I'm the first person to say, okay, I got it. What's the better idea? Let's do that. Give me the better idea. Their idea has been surrender. They are controlled. And when he told you what these people are going to be like, you will have controlled opposition that will put up a phony, a cosplay on a cosplay basis. Don't go out to the husting, say, yes, I'm so anti illegal immigration and seal the border and do this and do that, and then not just do nothing, do the exact opposite. They will fund the $6 billion, the refugee program that's financing the Somalians. Jack, you can't take advice from Lindsey Graham. You can't take advice from these people. They're the ones that went along and caused the problem. You can't take it. Of course, they all want to just go away and say, oh, well, there are 20 million here and the Democrats, and you know, that's not great. But they do add a point to GDP and they do drive down wages. So that's good, right? Companies, the 17 companies headquartered in Minneapolis are going to make more money, have higher stock. We're all going to be wealthy. We'll all get a couple second homes up in lake country in northern Minnesota. And Bob's your uncle. It's all great. When it's not great because you're tearing the country apart. It's not what ICE and Border Patrol are doing. They're not tearing the country apart. The revolution is tearing country apart because they want to tear the country apart. That's their plan.
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Posobic Steve, I'll give you an example, right, just a great example of this. You know, you go back and look, look, Mall of America. President Trump just put out this video, a video clip of New York city from about 100 years ago. And you see the, you see the clothing that people are wearing. You see the safety as they walk down the streets. You see it there you go and pull up the videos and I, I post this every once in a while. The Mall of America, how it looked when it first opened. 1991, 1992. Everyone's happy. It's, it's, it's classic Minnesota. It's Mike Lindell Minnesota, exactly what you'd expect to see. Now, what did my brother do this weekend? He went in there in Minneapolis and they went into a Walmart and he went up to the, and they, they recorded the whole thing. And they went up to one of the workers there and she's got the hijab on and say, hey, I want to buy some hand warmers. It's cold.
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Up.
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And she goes, hand warmers, hand warmers.
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I don't know.
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What is that? Chicken. Chicken. You walk around and you realize that you're surrounded by people. And then when you, you walk up to them, they're not speaking English, they're not speaking your language. You are completely invaded. You've been completely occupied. That's why they call it Little Mogadishu. Now, this is a complete ethno micro state that has imposed itself inside of the Twin Cities. So it's now it's the Tri Cities because you've got little Mogadishu that's there. And Steve, to your point, this is what the Fortune 500 companies want. This has been the biggest fight of all. If re migration is ever going to work, if re migration is ever going to happen, if Western civilization is ever going to survive. And I saw President Trump there at Davos and he talked about this. He said, Paris doesn't look like Paris anymore. London doesn't look like London anymore. Well, this is the fight. It runs through Minneapolis. The fight for all of Western civilization runs through Minneapolis. If we can't get it done there, we're not going to be able to get it done anywhere. It's as simple as that.
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In narrow way A magic wand to go back to some golden age of America. It's not like that. How about this? If you want to sort out New York City, just take the 1st of February date and let's move it up to this afternoon. Let's cut off all the federal funding. They still have sanctuary cities. President Trump said you got to get rid. He gave four things they had to do. They haven't done any of them, and they're not going to do any of them. The reason they're not going to do any of them, they think they're winning now because Bovino, this little hero who stood in the breach and put his own life on the line, you're sending him home.
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Well, there's a cartel bounty and it's not cartel bounty on Bovino's head.
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This cart. Cartel bounty, and you're sending his people home. And I don't see where liver lip Walls or that little pimp fry are coming to the microphone and saying, yeah, we've. We've reverted all the, all the, all the sanctuary city laws and we sent all the criminals to President Trump. And we're, you know, we're going to get rid of. We're going to tell the police they got to support things. I haven't heard. It's crickets because it's crickets because they're spiking the football over there. The only thing that works is applied leverage, whether that leverage happens to be law enforcement or financial or political. But you got to bring leverage. You can. You can't give your leverage away. The people they're advising, Stephen Miller, my recommendation, Stephen Miller ought to fly it there with, With Homan, and Homan's a good man. I think a team of Homan and Bovino would be amazing, and that's who I'd like to see on the scene. But Stephen's got to get out there and you know, he's got it. Like, here's the plan. And the plan is we're still in the business of mass deportations. They're all worried about the polling and independents and got guys walking over the Independence. Are you down 20 points? Hey, I got news for you. Look at the poll of Whatley in North Carolina. He's at 24%. And the reason he's at 24%. You have the people that vote for Republicans all the time. Yeah, we'll vote for. Watley's the Republican. Yeah, we'll vote for him. You don't have MAGA going to vote for him. Your problem now is you got to get Maga to turn out 10 of Maga doesn't come you're then we're turning the economy around. We can hold this and pick up some seats, but not if you surrender in in Minneapolis. Jack, this is like Fallujah and Najaf. Round one. Jack, where do people go? Thank you for sticking around, staying away from the family. Social media where they go on Twitter.
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To get you sir, of course we're we're at Jackposopic. And Steve, by the way, I'd love if if it were happening that Commander Bovino. What if you're going to redeploy him, fine. Redeploy him to Maine, redeploy him to Los Angeles, redeploy him to Lewiston. Redeploy him to to find where we want to redeploy. We'll redeploy New York City, have him go give mondami at one once for look, Commander Bovino is one of the best and I suspect we haven't seen the last of him.
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Yeah, look, it's. So many factors have been contributing. You mentioned probably the biggest one, which was Biden's weaponization of the dollar back in 2022. And I think what we're seeing now is not even really a precious metal story. This is more of a credibility story. What I tell people all the time, gold didn't suddenly become valuable overnight. What changed, I think, over the last few years is the confidence in everything else priced around it. We're talking currencies, government debt, growth forecasts, all of it. And markets, when they see things like this, they don't panic. What they do is just reprice. And I think that's ultimately what we're watching playing out in front of us, a slow structural repricing of credibility. And I think people focus a lot on prices, but I don't think the real story sits in prices. And I'm taking your line, essentially. I think what prices are, are a thermometer. And they're telling us that the system, and I'm not just talking domestically in the United States, but the global financial system is sick and essentially has a fever. Now, look at the mainstream media. We've been talking about precious metals, you and I, for the last four years. Bloomberg, cnbc, they're catching on today. And they can't decide in the current climate whether to call this trend panic or a mania. But I think they would be wrong on both fronts. Right. A panic is emotional. And what we're seeing today is very different. It's Institutional. The biggest buyers today, they're not hedge funds. It's not the Reddit day traders sort of hyping up a market. This is central banks who are buying quietly, frequently and often undisclosed. Poland, for example, just bought 150 tons of gold bullion. And they came out publicly and said, listen, pricing doesn't matter to us. This is about stability. China have been stockpiling gold reserves for many years now. They don't even report half of their purchases. So China's official numbers will be much lower than actual. And ultimately, when the institutions that issue money decide that they need an asset without counterparty risk, without political risk, with no printing presses behind it, I think it shows us that the system has changed. Silver is a little bit different. It's both monetary and a strategic mineral. It has been undervalued as well, I think for a long time. Global supply has fallen short of consumption for the last six years. We're seeing an explosion now on the back of huge investment in AI data centers. A typical node for a data center uses about 2 ounces of silver. AI nodes require 6 ounces. So we're seeing huge demand. And of course, silver is a necessary component in everything from electronics to complex weaponry. So we're seeing a realization around the world and a scramble now to secure silver. On the back of that. China have added more export restrictions on silver. They're the number two miners of silver in the world. So we're seeing tight supply on the back of an increase in demand. So all in all, it's the perfect storm for precious metals. And I think what's driving them isn't fear or panic or mania. It is very simple math at this point.
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Those people that might not have gotten the end of the dollar empire a couple of years ago or gotten your free with no obligation. If he takes Bannon B A N O N at 989-898, you can get the free guide. No obligation to investing in gold and precious metals. If people haven't done that or haven't gotten the. Haven't gone to Birchgold with promo code Bannon and gotten the end of the dollar empire and read any of the installments. I think we got seven now in a hard edition that I'll sign personally if you with the appropriate investment.
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Investment.
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If they haven't done that and they're saying they're going, hey, I should have done this years ago, but I didn't, right? I didn't listen to Philip, I didn't listen to Steve. I should have done it, but I didn't and this thing is just so crazy about what the price is. You know, did I miss out? What would you do? What do you tell those customers are coming to you for the first time?
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Look, I, I would say this and I wouldn't say it in any way dismissively because I understand the question entirely, but I think in many ways it's. It's the wrong question to ask. Look, this isn't about catching a trade. Central banks, they didn't wake up one day and say, listen, gold's on a rally, let's buy it. Gold is up because they're buying it. For people like you and I, I think it's a case of swapping risks for certainty. And the real risk in my mind isn't the prices pull back 5 or 10%, although I don't think that's going to happen in this climate. I think the real risk is that the purchasing power of our savings keep eroding. And look at what's happening. Central banks, forecasters are scrambling aggressively to adjust their targets and they've been doing that for the last couple of years, just constantly increasing. But in my mind, the biggest risk right now is not owning some precious metals as part of our retirement. One thing's clear, the global financial system is changing. We're moving from sort of a post World War II order of trust and compatibility, a world policed by the United States into a more fractured world where trust is breaking down and precious metals and a move away from government debt will be the reality of those climate or the new world. I believe so. Forecasts now are increasing significantly. I think we will see $10,000 an ounce gold. Rickards, as I've said a few times, has been calling that for probably 20 years, but I think he is going to be right very, very soon. So for those that are sitting on the sidelines, there is a ton of opportunity and I will steal your line again. Don't focus too much on price. Look at what's driving the price. Because if they do, I think they'll realize we'll continue to see upside here.
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One thing you came on the show, you guys did the rear reset and one of the reasons I love Birch is they'll go, they went down for the huge meeting, the BRICS meeting and you guys did amazing reporting there, as you said in all the sidebar conversations. Then you came back and it was about a month later he said something's fundamentally changed here. And because you and I coming out of investment banking, gold was just, it was a non entity back in the 90s, right. With the Internet coming on, there were so many other things that wanted to focus on. But you said, hey, gold has been traditionally a hedge in times of uncertainty or the repricing of risk or is a safe harbor. But you can tell now with the massive purchases because we're in the third year, starting the fourth year of record year every year by the central bank banks and central banks that kind of have the opinion that Poland has, but don't say it. They're really not concerned about the price because this is a long term hold that gold is actually becoming now a new kind of financial asset where it used to just be equities or government bonds or corporate bonds. This has actually taken its place now as a real asset. People look at at that's fundamentally, in those three months or four months since you said it, you can see, remember I think gold has increased in value. Is it 80% in a year or 75% in a year? You can see that something fundamentally is shifting about this.
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Sir, it's, it's absolutely correct. Listen, I bought silver three and a half weeks ago for myself. It is up 50%. Okay? These are not performing as they have historically. Gold last year, 70%, silver 150. So not only are they safe haven assets and wealth preservers, but they're outstripping almost every other asset class from a growth standpoint. Now I still, when I talk to clients, for me the argument is not hey, this is get rich quick. It's not that. But I think what we are seeing, as we said earlier, is a repricing. And I think at the end of the day, gold and silver were undervalued for a long time and it was because people like you and I forgot their value.
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Right?
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We didn't see it. And today the world has been reminded of why precious metals have endured for centuries. And I think the experiment that really started dramatically in the 80s to shift away from sound money towards government debt that has failed. Debt to GDP in the United States is over 120%. It averages over 110% for the entire Western world. And I think the world has realized the problem in many respects is unsolved, solvable. It's a case of, you know, slowing the pace of decline and we're seeing a reversion back to sound money. And I don't think that will stop. I think the pace will escalate.
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In a world where we have three, roughly, I think $390 trillion of debt and I keep saying we're going to have the world's biggest margin call in a world where we have 39 or $40 trillion of U.S. debt or government debt and running two over $2 trillion of, of deficits every year. Really. We're all Keynesians now. You just gotta. We're all Keynesians now. It's, it's ironic that Keynes would refer to gold as a. What is a, a barbaric relic, a relic of our barbaric previous age. He could, he could, he, he, he. We're all Keynesians. But he's dead wrong on what gold turned out to be. Correct.
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Oh, correct. And listen, I shared his view. I was a banker. I laughed at clients at the turn of the century for looking at gold. There were so many better options. And today I kick myself and listen. I tell people what we've seen from 1945 up until today. Peace, prosperity, strength of currency. That is the historical aberration. Any student of currency understands the history of currency is a history of devaluation and destruction. And that's why you go to countries like China. They buy gold. The people buy gold hand over fist because they understand in a way that we haven't up until now the fragility of currency. But I think what we're seeing that now is a reversion back to the historical norm, and I think the historical norm in terms of central bank reserves, we will see a reversion back there as well. And we're seeing.
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Where do people, how do people get to you, sir? I want as many people as possible to come and, and make contact.
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This has been amazing for me, Steve. The amount of clients that have called me over the last few months and saying how we changed our, their lives, just listening to them, it has been absolutely incredible for me. So. Birchgold.com forward/bannon. Get the information. That's all we want you to do. Burks, gold, forward slash bannon or text Bannon to 989-898. Get free information. What you do from there is all on you. If you need us, you can call us from there, but get the information first. It's going to show you what to do.
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It's interesting. When we talked about putting end of the. We thought about, well, how are we going to do this? How are we going to actually explain this to people? And we focus on Bretton woods and we focused on, on the dollars of fiat currency, right? And we then we started writing the different installments. The people that got in there and learned it changed their lives. And some. It changed their lives fundamentally. They're in a very different financial place today. Anyway, Philip, Patrick, you and the guys are Berkshire superstars. So thank you for doing this. Thank you for being on today, explaining to us.
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Thank you.
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Steve.
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Go talk to to him. It's important for you to understand it. Even if you don't invest, it's important for you to understand it just so you understand how the world works. How the world works. It's one of the things we do here in the War Room is try to bring in global economics and capital markets into a political and cultural discussion. Short commercial break I think we've got the editor of the California Post, the new launch of the New York Post with us next. Do you owe back taxes or haven't filled in years? Now's the time to resolve your tax matters. When the national conversation around abolishing the income tax system, the IRS is fighting back and proving it's here to stay by becoming more aggressive than ever before. They're sending out more collection notices, filing more tax liens and collecting billions more than in recent years. If you owe, the IRS can garnish your wages, levy your bank accounts, seize your retirement, even your home if you owe or haven't filed. It's not a question of the IRS will act, it's when the IRS will act now. Right now, Tax Network USA is offering a completely free IRS research and discovery call to show you exactly where you stand in and what they can stop before it's too late. Their powerful programs and strategies can save you thousands or even eliminate your debt entirely if you qualify. Don't make a costly mistake representing yourself or calling the IRS on your own waves your rights and cost you more money. They are not on your side. The IRS is there to get as much money as possible, not to help you out. Get protected the right way with Tax Network USA and start the process on settling your tax matters once and for all beginning today. Call 800-958-1000. That's 1-800-958-1000 or visit taxnetworkusa.com that's tnusa.com Bannon for your free discovery call with Tax Network tnsusa.com Bannon for your free Discovery Call or call 1-800-958- 1000. That's 1-800-9588-1000. Don't let the IRS make the first move. Act today.
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New York City Council Member Chiyose and I represent Bed Stuy and Crown Heights in the City Council.
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And while we're calling to abolish ice.
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That most Certainly is not enough. We need Nuremberg trials for the people.
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Of ice, for the people who are.
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Committing crimes against humanity here in our country.
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I refuse.
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I refuse to call them law enforcement.
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They are agents of chaos. They are destroying the fact that of our country.
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We move further than calling to abolish ice, something that many of our leaders in the Democratic Party are still afraid to do. I don't want to hear about reforming ice. I don't want to hear about training these ICE agents.
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We need to abolish ice. What do we want and why do we want it? We're heading to our government shutdown because that's the funding of ice. Let's go to Mike Lindell, who's running for governor. Mike, that's a city councilman. That's what you're dealing with, brother. Your thoughts?
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It's pure evil, Steve. I mean, it's pure evil. You talk about brainwashing and you know, that's our Minnesota media, too. They're like a step above covering up and brainwashing the people of Minneapolis and Minnesota in general. And it's. I'll tell you, Steve, running for governor, you know, when I announced all this, came out about three days later, just exploded. But you know me, I still look at it all as a blessing. I believe it's gotta get bad so people see all the problems we have. And one of the things, when I'm governor, the first day I said it earlier today, I'm gonna ban Sharia law. I'm gonna enforce the protest. He rules that have to be enforced. I mean, it's such a common sense thing our president puts out. You have success stories like Memphis and Washington D.C. and all these other cities where the Democrats, mayors are in cooperation and they enforce their laws, their protesting laws. And you don't get to impede with any law enforcement at all. I mean, this is, you know, back in the day when I get to. I can't even imagine. And you know, growing up and going, hey, you can follow police officers around or you can just tell them, hey, we're going to block your police car. We're going to block you. This is just. It's beyond. It's not. It's beyond anything I've ever seen. Last night they destroyed a hotel, broke everybody's windows. I was just sc. That's right. When I was down there last week on tv and you guys, it's. Minnesota needs. They need new leadership from the top, all the way down. And that's another thing, Steve. When I get in, I'm going to Surround myself with the best team of people. And you know, just like the president, everybody, they're going, why are you campaigning so early? Well, you know what? Right now I'm learning all these different things that we're going to be able to do. This gives plenty of time. And I think you asked me before about, or somebody did on the other show I was on about beating Amy Klobuchar. Remember? This all happened under her watch, too. This happened under her watch. And there's, and it's just disgusting.
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Oh, no, she's terrible. Hang on, hang for one second before. It was a great pitch. Before we get to the pillows, I want to. We got a big special announcement here. Joel Pollock joins us. Joel, you're. They've launched, you're launching the California Post today, which I take it's the California version of the New York Post. You're the editor.
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I'm the opinion editor. And I'm here in the newsroom, which you can see behind me. The sports guys, okay, have the office space behind me, which is why they have the sports on the monitor. We're the opinion desk. And so talk to us. Over there is the news desk. And it, it's, it's super, super exciting here. Just people running around doing stories. It's, it's, it's a fantastic environment.
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Okay. The New York Post is the best tabloid in the country and one of the two or three best in the world. They dominate New York and they've got a huge cultural reach throughout the country. Why would they say, let's launch in California? It seems like California is not a tabloid place.
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California is the subject of so much of the tabloid journalism. Think about what goes into a page six at the New York Post. People are reading about celebrity news. You think about the New York Post sports section, which is probably the best section of the newspaper business. And so much of it is covering California sports. Yes, you have your tri state area sports, you have your sec, your big ten and so forth. But there's so much material out here, and plus there's such an underserved market. There are so many people in California who are desperate for an alternative to the traditional mainstream media with the left liberal slant that you get from most publications in California that simply having refreshing news first publication that doesn't talk down to the readers but speaks for the readers with the readers. It's an amazing opportunity. And they've moved in here with a serious investment and they are putting a huge amount of effort into making this successful. And this is launch day. You're seeing it live from the newsroom.
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So Joel, where do we go? Where where do people go? Are you going to do a printed copy? Is this going to be online? Where do people go to find the the California version of the Post?
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In fact, we have a print edition and we have these print editions. You think they're going out of style, but they're a lot of fun and you can find them at newsstands. You can subscribe to them. They'll deliver it to your home, but also@californiapost.com and you'll find us online there. You can also switch to the California site when you're on the New York site. So it really has become a bi coastal publication with the New York Post and the California Post. And yes, we do have old fashioned newsprint if you want to get your fingers dirty and thumb through the sports section. You know, I got a 10 year old boy, he's got no interest in news. When you flip the paper over and show him the sports section, he's interested in reading it. So that's how we got him hooked.
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Well, it's the president's let's say this, if it's not the president's favorite paper, it's maybe his second favorite paper but it's one of the first ones he gets to every day. Donald Trump. Joel, where do people online, where do people get you on social media?
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California Post.com and speaking of the president, we have several exclusives that are out today right now with our sit down interview in the Oval Office. I was there with the president last week and we've got a massive story coming tomorrow that is Tuesday, January 27th. So watch California Post.com perfect.
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We'll get it up in the morning. Joel, thank you very much. Great job up.
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Thank you.
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Godspeed. Mike Lindell, I need you to hang around for a second. I'm going to take you through the break and we'll kick off the next hour, War Room Texas with you telling us what a great deal we're going to get people. People are hungry for this deal so we'll stick around. War Room Texas, we are packed in the second hour. You just heard Mike Lindell right there there. He said first thing he's going to do is ban Sharia law in the state of Minnesota as governor. Well, this is the thing we're fighting for down in Texas on March 3rd. It's going to be a ballot initiative, Prop 10 in the primary to put it on the main ballot of banning sharia. Don't Sharia my Texas. All Next in the War Room. If you could make one holiday wish, would you wish to be free from your credit card and other debt? Let's see if we can help you with that. If we could give yourself one gift this holiday season, would it be finally to get some relief from your credit card and other debt? Debt I might have a solution. Here's why. Now's the time to make a move. This time of year, credit card and loan companies close out their books. They clean up past due accounts. They sell a write off the debt to clear their books. That means if you have credit card debt and unpaid bills, lenders may be more open to negotiating and settling your account before you're in. That means right now, and I mean right now, you may actually have leverage. And Done With Debt knows how to use this to your advantage. They monitor lender trends and understand the year end pressure on creditors. They use that timing to negotiate hard on your behalf. Now's the time to get out from under crushing debt and interest payments without bankruptcy or taking on new loans. Done With Debt Goes to Work Work for you Month one with one clear goal to reduce your total debt and leave you with more money every month. Get started now because your leverage may disappear at the end of the year. Chat with a Done with debt specialist@donewithdebt.com that's done with debt.com donewithdet.com do it today.