Episode 5100: No De Escalation In Minnesota; Arrest All Protestors Obstructing ICE

Summary

---

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room, Episode 5100

Title: No De-Escalation In Minnesota; Arrest All Protestors Obstructing ICE
Date: January 28, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon (WarRoom.org)
Main Theme:
An uncompromising discussion on the escalating standoff in Minnesota over federal immigration enforcement, the Trump administration’s response, and urgent calls for a “whole of government” crackdown on protestors and illegal immigration. Bannon and guests (including Erik Prince, Mike Howell, Sam Faddis) dissect local and federal dynamics, critique political adversaries, and lay out plans for mass deportation, enforcement, and protest suppression.

---

Main Themes and Purpose

• Standoff in Minnesota: Protesters and ICE Watch activists are obstructing ICE operations following a high-profile killing.
• Federal Response: The Trump administration faces friction with Minnesota’s local leadership; debate ensues over whether federal law is being enforced or undermined.
• No De-Escalation Approach: Bannon and guests firmly reject compromise or reducing federal pressure, instead calling for mass arrests and a ramp-up of enforcement efforts.
• Political Tensions: Critiques of Minnesota officials, calls for a “whole-of-government” crackdown, and analogies to wartime scenarios.
• Broader Strategy: Outlined plans for nationwide immigration crackdowns, enhanced legal and financial levers, and suppression of protest networks.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Escalation in Minneapolis: Local vs. Federal Confrontation

• Protest and ICE Watch: Activists are monitoring and obstructing ICE, creating daily standoffs.
• Lethal Encounters: Mention of Alex Preddy, an activist killed during an ICE encounter—becomes rallying point for protest.
• Local Defiance: Mayor Frey and Gov. Walz refuse to cooperate with federal immigration enforcement, doubling down on Minneapolis’ sanctuary city status.

Memorable Quote:

“Mayor Jacob Fry just stated that Minneapolis does not and will not enforce federal immigration laws...could somebody please explain that this statement is a very serious violation of the law and he is playing with fire.”
—Stephen K. Bannon [10:46]

Timestamps:

• [00:00—05:00]: Early exchanges about personal animosity between local/federal officials, ICE Watch activities, and the rising tension on the streets.
• [09:55]: Climactic denunciation of Minnesota’s leadership with Bannon introducing the day’s stakes.

---

2. No Retreat, No De-Escalation: “Hold the Line”

• Bannon’s Stance: Vigorous calls to “raise the temperature,” increase pressure, and refuse any pullback or compromise.
• Whole-of-Government Enforcement: Demand for DOJ, FBI, and other federal agencies to converge on Minneapolis to arrest protestors and enable mass deportations.
• Mass arrest and summary trials are debated, with analogies to historical military and policing campaigns.

Memorable Quote:

“There can be no de-escalation at all. You don’t need to bring down the temperature, raise the temperature, put them under pressure. They’re the ones that are cracking.”
—Stephen K. Bannon [10:46]

Timestamps:

• [10:46—16:34]: Bannon’s call to arms and dismissals of local politicians as “weaklings” and “clowns.”
• [16:34—20:00]: War comparisons (Fallujah, Iraq, Vietnam), demand for “resolve,” and denouncement of any sign of compromise.

---

3. Blueprint for Enforcement: Strategies for Mass Deportation

Erik Prince’s Proposal ([22:08])

• Comprehensive Plan: Use open-source cell data, government records to target illegals.
• Bounty System: Incentivize local and state law enforcement, both on and off duty.
• Administrative Hearings En Masse: Set up stadium trials to process large numbers at once.
• Financial Levers: Shut down illegal banking, seize funds, penalize institutions.

Quote:

“...A comprehensive plan...included a lot of open source available cell phone data... motivating state and local law enforcement with a very considerable bounty program... use some basically large stadiums to do the administrative hearing...”
—Erik Prince [22:08]

Bannon/Prince Exchange ([24:45]):

• Crack down on banks and businesses that cater to illegals.
• All protestors/obstructionists should be detained and charged under conspiracy and obstruction statutes.

---

4. Targeting Protest Networks: Suppression and Arrest

Sam Faddis’ Legal Prescription ([38:46]):

• Criminalization: Asserts ICE Watch and similar groups are engaging in felony conspiracy, advocating for organizers to be arrested and networks dismantled.
• Deterrence: Predicts rapid collapse of protest if leaders are prosecuted and assets seized.

Quote:

"[ICE Watch groups] exist to impede and obstruct federal officers in the enforcement of a law...that is a conspiracy, that is a felony...there shouldn't be anybody free who is organizing teams..."
—Sam Faddis [38:46]

Prince on Law Enforcement Surge ([40:59])

• Advocates the deputization of “5,000 properly trained law enforcement/military veteran professionals” to “overmatch” protestors and instill order.

---

5. Bannon’s Political Warfare

• Offensive Rhetoric: Depicts the struggle as existential (“primal scream of a dying regime” [09:55]).
• Attacks on the Left: Claims Democrats rely on migration as a “business model” and to “steal elections.”
• Warnings to Trump: Criticizes advisors pushing for compromise; insists Trump must fulfill deportation promises at all costs.

Quote:

“We are opening the aperture of enforcement broadly to everybody. We don’t care if you’re a criminal, we care if you’re here illegally. ...maniacally focused on the numbers…”
—Mike Howell [31:52]

---

6. Overseas Diversions: Iran and Strategic Logic

• Prince & Faddis: Argue US should focus on domestic “insurrection” before intervention abroad, downplaying regime change in Iran.
• Skepticism of Military Show: Questioning value and success probability of strikes or interventions overseas.

Quote:

“Let’s deal with the Communists in our own cities and clean that rot out before we worry about Iran... 8,000 miles away from the US.”
—Erik Prince [47:57]

Timestamps:

• [45:35—51:09]: Discussion of US military posture and lessons from past interventions.

---

Notable Quotes (with Timestamps and Attribution)

• “There is de facto absolute immunity for at least as long as Donald Trump is in office at the federal level.”
  —Speaker B [03:28]

• “This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we’re going medieval on these people.”
  —Stephen K. Bannon [09:55]

• “If this doesn’t happen again. This gets solved at the ballot box or it gets solved with a cartridge box.”
  —Erik Prince/A [36:47]; rhetoric on the stakes of enforcement and political warfare

• “We can get not just numbers officially with bounties and others, but unofficially. They’re going to start leaving when life gets too tough, right?”
  —Stephen K. Bannon [37:09]

• “You thought this was cool? We now own— we seized your funds, we seized your computers, and you guys are all in jail and the comms are gone and the whole structure is gone.”
  —Sam Faddis [42:41]

---

Key Segment Timestamps

• [00:00–05:00] — Initial context, local/federal friction, ICE Watch
• [09:55] — Bannon launches into central segment on “dying regime”
• [10:46–16:34] — Calls for crackdown, refusal to de-escalate
• [22:08] — Erik Prince details comprehensive enforcement plan
• [31:52] — Mike Howell lays out policy prescription for Trump
• [38:46–43:00] — Legal rationale and mechanism for arresting protest organizers
• [45:35–51:09] — Strategic discussion: domestic enforcement vs. Iran intervention
• [51:35–52:54] — Veteran perspectives and war analogies; final appeals for hardline action

---

Conclusion

This episode showcases the War Room’s combative approach to the Minnesota protests and immigration enforcement, advocating a no-compromise, full-scale crackdown. The speakers reject all forms of de-escalation, offering detailed operational, legal, and political blueprints for mass deportation, protest suppression, and financial penalties against supportive institutions. Rhetoric frames the conflict as existential, drawing parallels to past military campaigns abroad and underscoring a broader agenda of restoring “law and order” through relentless federal action.

For listeners:
The episode is a rallying cry for supporters—presenting not only a vision for anti-immigration enforcement but also a political philosophy of total resistance to compromise and a willingness to use every tool to achieve the stated goals. All central segments revolve around action, blame assignment, and coordination against perceived internal threats.

Transcript

[A]

Weird though, right?

[B]

Yeah, I think so.

[A]

Look, I mean, here's what's weird about it him is that he knows you.

[B]

Have to work together.

[A]

But it, it is a strange thing.

[B]

As an individual human being.

[A]

You know, he calls me the R word.

[B]

He says, you know, he makes up.

[A]

Things that I'm corrupt, like there's something seriously wrong with this guy. And then you get a call that, you know, we got to work together. That's what. And look, I'm probably guilty of that too, because I, I call them things. I just think I can probably back my, my comments up a little bit.

[B]

But I think, and this is where.

[A]

I am very hopeful for the President.

[B]

To make that call to tell me he will look into giving us back the cases, you know, partnering with them.

[A]

And reducing the numbers. I'm not going to say I'm grateful.

[B]

Because you started this fire. You don't get credit for putting it out after you started it. But I am going to say, especially.

[A]

In these times, that they are working for a solution. And again, I won't pretend to look into their hearts. I think I know on this. I just care that they end up in the same place. Where I want to end up is quit hassling our citizens. Follow the Constitution, get these folks out.

[B]

Of here and make the folks who shot Alex and Rene accountable for what they did.

[A]

I don't think it's a pullback. It's a little bit of a change. You know, Bovino is very good, but he's a pretty out there kind of a guy. And in some cases that's good. Maybe it wasn't good here. Other cities to form groups they're calling ICE Watchers and that keep tabs on known and suspected DHS vehicles and then film record encounters. Just as Alex Freddy was doing when he was killed by border patrol agents right here on Saturday. Today I got the chance to ride along with ICE Watch volunteers on their patrol and learn about what they face when they encounter federal agents. Now we're not going to show their faces to protect their identities. Our drivers are two individuals who came out with us this afternoon.

[C]

They told us what they've seen over.

[A]

The past three months. What have your interactions been like when you have been around ICE or CBP grabbing people or out?

[B]

Yeah, it's pretty mixed. It can often be a really volatile.

[A]

High tension experience.

[B]

And it just kind of depends. Matchstick. If you want to jump in at.

[A]

Any point, let me know.

[B]

But we've seen them like a common move is wrapping their arms around people's necks. And like throwing them to the ground from the back. Sometimes they're just like, back up.

[A]

You know, you're saying, doing that to observers. To observers. Yeah. And sometimes they'll yell you back up. Yeah, they're relatively forceful, even if they're.

[B]

Not, like, physically forceful.

[A]

Yeah. But there's also been times where they couldn't care less about if we're there and aren't talking to us or just ignoring us.

[B]

Look, when, when, when J.D. vance said that government officials, that federal law enforcement have absolute immunity, a whole bunch of lawyers tissed him and said.

[C]

Oh, no, he misspoke.

[B]

No, no, no.

[C]

J.D. vance was telling us the practical reality.

[B]

Which is that because they control the Department of Justice and because Pam Bondi.

[C]

Will never open up a criminal investigation.

[B]

Of any shooting or any action by anyone in favor with Donald Trump and his admin fact. They pardoned the January six folks. They pardoned Donald Trump's friends.

[C]

There is de facto absolute immunity for at least as long as Donald Trump is in office at the federal level.

[B]

Now, there are things at the state level that Keith Ellison no doubt is exploring that the city of Minneapolis is no doubt exploring.

[C]

And good for them, good for what they're doing.

[B]

But we need to understand we are on our own. The federal government is not going to protect us. The federal government is not going to investigate wrongdoing against any protester, any peaceful advocate for democracy. You know, that is, that is why I say we're on our own.

[A]

White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller wrote that administration officials are now evaluating why the CPB team in Minneapolis.

[B]

Quote, may not have been following protocol set for extra personnel sent to Minnesota for force protection.

[A]

What does that mean? That's a. Wow, Kyle, did you hear that? Yes. I don't have any special insight on what that means. You know, it is the. Seems like at least a small backtracking, but, you know, it does not sound, I don't, I don't have anything smart to say about that, that's for sure.

[B]

But, but, but even if it's a.

[A]

Tiny backtracking and from Miller, this is the point.

[B]

This is from Stephen Miller.

[A]

Right. They don't get more draconian than Steve Miller. Just go back to his, you know.

[B]

High school student council speeches of the world and the high school he chose to live in. The fact that we're getting a statement.

[A]

Like that at 11 o' clock at night from Stephen Miller in the White.

[B]

House without knowing any background, what does.

[A]

That tell you about their resolve, the.

[B]

Chaos of the moment, or the uprising.

[A]

With the American people. What that tells me is that the pressure that they're feeling.

[B]

The pressure is on.

[A]

The pressure is absolutely on. And that is exemplified by the fact that that statement was put out in Caroline Lovett's name, but came out in his. Help me understand how the President of the United States is taking.

[B]

Is changing his tune or tone when they're investigating Alex Preddy, who we watched be murdered, essentially on loop this week since it happened. What is going on, Mark? So you know exactly what's going on. The state investigated Emmett Till, you know, the state investigated the black citizens of black Wall street in, you know, in the massacre, in the Tulsa massacre. Right.

[C]

We, we know what they're doing because this isn't new.

[B]

The government is investigating the victim because.

[C]

They want to find a reason to say that he was asking for it.

[B]

That the mother with a dog in her back seat and stuffed animals out of her.

[C]

In her, in her glove compartment, that she was the aggressor, that the ICU nurse who was clearly trying to protect.

[B]

A woman who was being pepper sprayed.

[C]

And who was then thrown to the.

[B]

Ground and was beaten, that he was the perpetrator. And we've seen this playbook before. It was a dark time in American history.

[C]

And for those people who thought that.

[B]

We had moved beyond that dark time and that the federal government would no longer do this kind of thing in those instances of state government. Now, the federal government, we haven't moved that far beyond. And yet there are court fights going on in all these places. And I'm happy, I'm proud to say my law firm and I were in those cases side by side with those states in every 24 of those jurisdictions.

[C]

And that the Trump Department of Justice is over three.

[B]

But we know when they can't win in court, they're going to resort to violence. We saw that on January 6th with this.

[A]

And we need to know going forward that there will be some rules. There needs to be an independent investigation. For goodness sakes, there has to be an investigation. If this happened on a police force, the officers, whether or not they committed anything wrong, would immediately be put on administrative leave and there would be an investigation. But I don't know who trust an investigation to be done by DHS when they're the ones calling this person an assassin or would be assassin, a domestic terrorists saying he was assaulted. The police, how can they be in charge of an independent investigation? Something's got to happen here.

[B]

So, okay, so who else could conduct.

[A]

The investigation then if it's not dhs? I think that's a good question within police bodies. You know, most police are not elected. Some sheriffs are elected. A lot of sheriffs are. But there are independent police organizations that review these things. And look, I'm not one saying the officers are guilty of anything criminal. They in all likelihood were trying to do their job. But in all likelihood this is going to be a tragedy. I mean, it is a tragedy. I mean, I think the guns were prematurely drawn and prematurely fired after a gun had already left the scene. I think someone was shouting gun, gun, gun. And they were worried that maybe the perpetrator had it when indeed they're one of their own agents at it. So it was a mistake. But if we don't say it was a mistake, if we show this is, this is just jolly well and good, he was a terrorist, people aren't going to accept that. You want Minnesota to calm down, we have to show that there's a just and independent investigation here. You know, Minnesota's in the, in the news a lot, but they don't, what they don't say is that Minnesota has low numbers because of the fact that we took thousands of hardened criminals out of Minnesota. So they had good crime numbers, believe it or not. And that's all working out. You know, we have Tom Holman there now. We put him in there, he's great. And they met with the governor, the mayor, everybody else, and we're going to de escalate a little bit.

[B]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Prison's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

[A]

It's going to happen.

[B]

And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

[A]

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.

[B]

I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this, this country will be saved.

[A]

WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.

[B]

It's Wednesday 28th January at Yervalure 2026. Maga is not breaking over this. Of course we're, you know, everything's bending a little bit, but not going to break by a long shot. We're anti fragile and we're resilient. Been through these before. We'll get this sorted President Trump and just coming hot off the press because I think he's getting a belly full of it. Again, I turn to true social and I quote, this is from the President, surprisingly. Mayor Jacob Fry just stated that Minneapolis does not and will not enforce federal immigration laws, end quote. This is after having had a very good conversation with him. Could somebody in his inner sanctum please explain that this statement is a very serious violation of the law and he is playing with fire. All Cap, all Waltz and Fry have done is smack talk and say, hey, they're not going to, you know, no federal immigration laws in Minneapolis. That's a sanctuary city. Homan's out there. We need to hold. It's very, it's quite simple in the fog of war, right? Just look through it. We have to hold the line. There can be no de escalation at all. You don't need to bring down the temperature, raise the temperature, put them under pressure. They're the ones that are cracking. They're fighting. The whole nation sees it. The polling's still there. The Washington Post said today, oh, Trump did so good on the border and closing the border, but he bit off Morgan Chu. He, he's the author of his own problem because he said he was going to deport everybody. And that's impossible. It's not impossible. It's going to happen. The Democratic Party business, the Red Green alliance business model is to flood the nation with the illegal aliens and just say, oh, it's too hard to get them out. It's too bad. Let's have them vote. Let's get them on welfare, let's do it all. It's not going to happen. That's why Lance de Boyle in Minneapolis, Fry's a weakling. Waltz is a clown. We couldn't get better casting. You have a weakling and you have a clown. Remember Fry during the blm? No compromise with these guys. And Stephen Miller, let me be blunt. You can't send 300 custom and border and ICE and not have a whole of government approach. You have to have doj. You have to have tiger teams of prosecutors. I think they've had 12 prosecutors quit the Minneapolis office. That's fine. Nobody's forcing you to work. But surge other prosecutors, FBI, where are the pipe hitters? Where's Department of War? Where's an entire full whole of government approach? You can't put a handful of customers and Borders and ice agents there and let them be surrounded every night by domestic violent terrorists. This is inflection point. You blink now and you're going to blink forever. You bend the knee now, you'll bend the knee forever. If we stand in the breach and say screw you, we're fighting for the country, right? And I don't care how many people I got to deport. I don't care if you got. If the families are there and they're there illegally and we want to keep them together, guess what? You're going to have to round up some five year olds with their parents. But they're going to home. And home ain't the United States. I don't care how long they've been here on Biden's watch. Law binding. That's not the point. They're here illegally. We can't afford it. African Americans, Hispanic American citizens, the white working class, their lives are being destroyed. Their education systems, their health care, their jobs are being taken, their wages are being driven down. They're American citizens. And illegal alien invaders are not American citizens. That's a bright line and somebody's got to be clarifying that because MAGA ain't backing down. We're not in the back down business. Erik Prince, Mike Howe, next in the war room. There's a lot of politicians that should be getting coal in their stockings for Christmas. But Birch Gold thinks as a smart planner, you deserve silver. That's why for every $5,000 you purchase between now and December 22nd, Birch Gold will send you an ounce of silver free. Remember, silver is up over 60% this year and over $60 an ounce. You see, smart people diversify and have a hedge. That's why I encourage you to buy gold from Birch Gold. With the rate cuts from the Fed in 2026, the dollar will be worth less. And what happens if the AI bubble burst? Diversify. Let Birch Gold Group help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA and physical gold. Let me repeat that. Physical gold. And for every $5,000 you buy, you'll get an ounce of silver for your stocking or for your kids. What a great way to teach them about saving smartly. Just text my name, Bannon B A N N o n to 989-898 to claim your eligibility for this offer. Again, text Bannon B A N N o N to the number 989-898 today because Birchgold's free silver with qualifying purchase promotion ends the 22nd of December of this year. Make sure you text Bannon 298-9898. Do it today.

[A]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[B]

It was yesterday and they're in their text, each other that was picked up. And their social media, they're calling it their Fallujah. They're pouring in every. Like the chat scenes. Everybody went in for second Fallujah. That's what we made the film. You can't send. This is like we left troops in, in Iraq. You send them in again, you send them in a place, there's a couple hundred troops, and then you leave them. It has to be a whole of government approach. A whole of government. That's a complicated situation. And yes, we do want to handle it as humanely as possible, underline as possible. But they're all going. They're all going because once they know they're all going, they're going to leave themselves. You have to have resolve. This is like the, the 300 are like the guys at Den Bin Fu, the French. He's put them in there. Or you take. You deal with the. You deal with the North Vietnamese or that Time of Sophie, you just deal with it. You can have. It doesn't work like that. This is what we did in Vietnam. This is what we did in Iraq. It can't happen. And President Trump's getting a belly full of already. He understands he's getting bad information. He just told Fry on truth social media, yo, dude, you call me up, we have these good conversations, then you come out. You're not going to enforce immigration law. Their sanctuary. Say, Mr. President, fry is a decept. This is the type, the beta male that the communists feed off of. You got a whole city of beta males. They're too gutless to confront you in a conversation. No, no, Mr. President, this is what we're going to do. They'll worm around and then he'll come out on, you know, on, on public radio and he'll talk smack. The, the buried lead that ain't so buried in President Trump's true social. You're playing with fire. All cap, exclamation point. You're playing with fire. Homan's out there. He's a safe pair of hands. Although I'm a Bavino guy. Bavino was fine. Bavino was in the middle of it. And you can't sit there later and say, you know, we looking at the techniques. Maybe the techniques are. And come on, man, you can't turn the investigation over. These hyenas. Look what they did in the Black Lives Matter situation. Then you had jurors lying to get on the jury. Come on, grow up. Let's face rail, see what you see. We have lots of victories here. There's going to be lots of victories and victory begets victory. They're in a row right now. Right? That can turn quickly. M. Big, big Daily Mail story that we're abandoning all this because of your, your interview here today. It's far from it. The howls, the princes. We got Erik Prince next. The, the, the, the war room banning all of them. We got the President's back. Just saying you're getting bad information and some people are starting to blink. Hey, if you blink, that's fine. These are these defining moments. This was the, this is the Billy Bush moment on the campaign when they all want to wet themselves and wanted to run, run away. Hey, here's what I said, here's what we do. We double and triple down. Screw them. The country doesn't give a crap about locker room talk. Screw them and drive to victory. And if you're too weak, get the frick out of the way. Mike Pence, you're going to send a letter. McConnell and Paul rank, get the hell out of the way. It's time now for resolve and focus and determination. Mike Howell, what do you got for us?

[C]

Look, I agree with 100% you there. The President's going to make the right decision here. He's been given terrible advice by the pollsters, the consultants, the summer soldier, fake Republicans on Capitol Hill, the Mike Pence of the world who got us into this mess. And they had him basically try to approach Walls and Frey for a negotiation. And we talked about this yesterday. There's nothing to negotiate and fray and Walls made that abundantly clear. They're trying to get Trump and Republicans to say the only people worth deporting are criminals. And then also, by the way, we won't even help you do that. So there's, there's nothing to negotiate there. The Negotiation was the 2024 election when President Trump said, I'm going to carry out the biggest deportation operation in American history, bigger than Eisenhower. And we've crunched numbers on that. He's got a ways to go, but he can get there and he will get there if he stops listening to these feckless losers. I'll tell you what General Eisenhower would have done. He, in his own writings of his own border patrol that I've published about, would encircle the area and go and mop it up. No more onesie twosies, like you've said. This needs to be whole of government. You establish the perimeter and you march inwards. Get guys like Erik Prince involved, people who know what they're doing and surge Surge, surge, do not de escalate just because the left has escalated. That's not how this works.

[B]

Eric, let me bring you into the conversation with the mic. Eric, you've seen this before. I mean you're one of the ones that thought through the whole situation how we had to handle the worst days in Baghdad, right when, when Bush had gotten us in the same thing. You put American troops in there and then you forget about them and think they're going to handle everything. It doesn't work like that. History shows you it doesn't work like that. You actually presented a plan I think nine months ago that they made sure the President never saw because you said this day is coming, the convergence of the red green alliance. The day is coming that this is going to happen and guess what? There's going to be a stare down and they're waiting for us to back off to de escalate. What's your, what was your plan and what do you think is that plan operative today to sort this mess out in, in Minneapolis? Sir?

[A]

Look, our plan was based on hitting significant numbers by the midterms, knowing that hard things in politics generally have a limited lifespan. Yes, it was submitted properly through all the channels of dhs. It was ignored, sadly. But we kind of realized having been around government contracting and around government entities before, they can do some things really well, but they can't flex and bob and weave and it's hard for them to innovate. And so we had a comprehensive plan that included a lot of open source available cell phone data to figure out who is likely the illegal. Cross that with government database search to get you really good targeting information with lots of apprehension teams including motivating state and local law enforcement with a very considerable bounty program. It's much cheaper to pay bounties to officers on duty or off duty to bring in more legals than it is to even hire more full time ICE agents. Especially when these people know their communities, they know the neighborhoods and they know who doesn't belong. And then you get to the administrative process, the magistrate process where we were going to use some basically large stadiums to do the administrative hearing since they're all entitled to some sort of legal process to do that at industrial scale to be able to hit the hundreds of thousands and or tens of millions per year that the President really needs to hit to make good on his, on his campaign commitment. Sadly, that has not been done. There's one thing, I mean now that they look, they've attracted all the attention in Minneapolis, probably not the Place I would have chosen in terms of a hard target with extremely unfriendly local governments, other places to show big successes. But the fact is treasury can do a lot more by making it impossible for any illegal that's here to be banking and to rent houses to them. And you up the penalties or you up the, the. Even if you, if you went to banks and said you can either seize these bank accounts that you've identified as illegal or we're going to find the hell out of you, you'll even get bank compliance officers instead of harassing Americans.

[B]

Don't find them, shut them down. They debank. They were. It was very simple for them to debank. All the Maga and all of J6. You go to them and say, hey, real simple. Here's, here's the accounts. You shut them down. Exactly. You shut them down or we're putting you out, shutting you down real quickly because I'm a hold you in, in hell. You got two things. You have the illegal alien invaders, right? You got the criminals as trial house that you're going to triage those, but it's just not the criminals. And you got to get to the businesses. But you've also got the insurrectionists. Now you do have a, you know, part of this is the credentialed class, right, that always wants to stick their mouth and everything, these Democratic party activists. But that's, that's not the problem here. The problem is hardcore black block antifa insurrectionist revolutionaries that are out there. It's like Fallujah, you know, they're the Chechens, they've all come in. Don't you just go and round them all up, Round them all up. Take them to a high school gym, take the credential class, the beta males and, and all the mouthy Karens and send them home, Let them go home with their whistles. But the rest of the guys right there, you just have drumhead. You get, you pull guys in, we just have drumhead trials and boom, we just send them to the, we send them to the clink right away under emergency measures.

[A]

Certainly an option. I would. This is a perfect opportunity to expose Cuban subversion that they've been organizing in America for decades. You even see it in that big signal chat when some of those people are talking about escaping to Cuba. There's a reason for that. The Cuban Communist Party has been actively infiltrating and screwing up our society for decades. It's time to pay them back. Pull the string on those threads and you can certainly, you know, if they're going to try people for FARA violations in the last administration, there's a lot of ways to try them as foreign agents acting on behalf of foreign communist government here in America.

[B]

I love that. Eric Prince Hang on for a second. MIKE how hang on. We're going to be joining some other people where you get Eric's thoughts also about the gathering storm around Tehran. Let me be blunt. Tan ain't the problem. The, the the the group over there and may hey, maybe there's 5,000 dead, maybe there's 10,000 dead. I have no earthy idea. But remember, that's the same crowd or it's the children of the same crowd that threw us out 50 years ago. They're Muslims. They brought on Islamic a Muslim Islamic republic themselves. It's their issue to deal with. We should cut them off. We should cut the mullahs off of every as we've had to bring them to their knees economically so they can't trade with the world. You sanction them. You also stop the oil, which we've done in Venezuela so perfectly, perfectly, you stop the oil from going outside the Straits of Hormuz to the North Arabian Sea, across the Indian Ocean, past Diego Garcia to the Straits of Malacca, South China Sea to China. You cut them off of all cash. But the focus in the National Security Council in the next couple of days should be on the revolution by these insurrectionists you have on the streets of Minneapolis because guess what? We have Communists there, we have Marxists there, we have jihadists there that are trying to take down the American republic from inside the American Republic. Short commercial break Back with Hal and Prince Is that how PRINCE not bad. Back in a moment. Do you owe back taxes or haven't filled in years? Now is the time to resolve your tax matters when the national conversation around abolishing the income tax system, the IRS, is fighting back and proving it's here to stay by becoming more aggressive than ever before. They're sending out more collection notices, filing more tax liens and collecting billions more than in recent years. If you owe, the IRS can garnish your wages, levy your bank accounts, seize your retirement, even your home if you owe or haven't filed. It's not a question of the IRS will act, it's when the IRS will act Now. Right now, Tax Network USA is offering a completely free IRS research and discovery call to show you exactly where you stand and what they can stop before it's too late. Their powerful programs and strategies can save you thousands or even eliminate your debt entirely if you qualify, don't make a costly mistake. Representing yourself or calling the IRS on your own waives your rights and costs you more money. They are not on your side. The IRS is there to get as much money as possible not to help you out. Get protected the right way with Tax Network USA and start the process on settling your tax matters once and for all beginning today. Call 800-958-1000. That's 1-800-958-1000 or visit taxnetworkusa.com that's tnusa.com Bannon for your free discovery call with Tax Network tnsusa.com Bannon for your free Discovery Call or call 1-800-958- 1000. That's 1-800- 958-1000 don't let the IRS make the first move act today.

[A]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[B]

So, Mike, how the president has being the president of all the people, he's had conversations with the governor, with Walz and the mayor Fry, he has sent Homan a safe pair of hands. Tom Homan, who's hard as nails. Ford deployed him to Minneapolis. I know they have other people. I think the FBI is sending people, doj, treasury, all of it. So now they're taking a whole of government approach on the ground with boots on the ground. Bovino's out, is going back to El Centro, but we'll deal with that later. And Walls after president's tried to not try to accommodate, try to maybe take the temperature down. These guys do what they always do because they're Marxist, they're the enemies of this country or they would not have allowed this to happen. And President Trump's true social right there is saying, hey, I want to remind Fry who just said publicly that they're not going to enforce immigration laws in the city of Minneapolis. In other words, he's a sanctuary city. And the president of the United States can go shove it right as the commander in chief and the chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer. As Article 2 tells us of the Constitution, President Trump says you're playing with fire and you're breaking the law. There we are right there. Thank you, Denver. Mike Howell, what is your recommendation? If you got a couple of minutes in the Oval today to have a cup of coffee with the president, what would be your recommendation to President Trump?

[C]

I'd say, Mr. President, give a national address where you're announcing that we are now shifting into phase two of your campaign promise to carry out the largest deportation operation in history, which you will meet and you have to. And you're going to do it because your central feature is keeping your promises. So let's help you keep that one. You're going to acknowledge that two things kind of got us into these low numbers. One is the DHS mass communications without mass deportations. They've needlessly been doing Democrat propaganda for them without falling through on getting big numbers that that comes to an end. Issue number two is a lot of people said we're going to do the worst of the worst. First, criminals. Right. Republicans took that and the pollsters, the consultants and the Democrats to mean that's all you're allowed to do. Well, you say that stage is over. We got enough criminals. We are opening the aperture of enforcement broadly to everybody. We don't care if you're a criminal, we care if you're here illegally. We leave the criminals for other law enforcement entities. And so you say, I'm going to be maniacally focused on the numbers getting commas in the deportation numbers to get them into the millions, going off like a jackpot machine in Las Vegas. And to accomplish that, this is going to be a whole of government exercise. I'm going to creatively apply every lever the federal government has. I'm going to charge every military age male illegal alien in the United States for failing to register for the draft and give them an option to go to prison for five years or take a flight home. I'm going to bring in Eric Prince to do things like the bounty program for people to rat them out or if the others don't, that they want to leave. We're going to get you paid to leave. I'm going to send OSHA inspectors in to, you know, look at work site conditions that may employ illegals, by the way, also corporate industry. Your amnesty for not enforcing worksite is over. We're going in, so tell them to get out before we get there. Finally, politically, I understand that there was a jailbreak of Rhino senators and congressmen. I'm not going to tolerate that. Congressman Mike Lawler, your endorsement is revoked for pushing amnesty at this moment, trying to take advantage of this time and join with the Democrats. And I'm going to go down the line and say no, America first is what we promised and damn well we're going to implement it. And I don't care if CNN doesn't like it, I don't care if the Rhinos don't like it. We got a country to save and damn it, I'm going to do it.

[B]

Mike, how Work and people follow you. Social media and other websites. Sir.

[C]

Yep. I'm on x@mhow tweets and oversight projects at. It's your government.

[B]

Mikel, thank you. Thank you, sir, for putting clarity into this. Erik Prince. Thoughts? Where do we go from here? People have, I think the President, if he had gotten access to your ideas months ago, we wouldn't be in this situation. But we are where we are. We had tough situations in Iraq, we had tough situations in Afghanistan. Other places. We worked through it. We can work through this. You see, the President already is having a belly full of. He's tried to, you know, meet the moment. He's tried to accommodate and listen to Fry and listen to walls. But you've seen these guys before. You know how the Marxists are. They're going to tell you everything to your face. You want to hear, we'll work together. We'll do everything. And then when he gets on, you know, public radio or does his press conference, he says, hey, we're not going to enforce any immigration laws. We just don't do that. We're a sanctuary city. And the President goes, you're playing with fire. You're damn right he's playing with fire. And Fry and these guys need to be taught a lesson. And they need to be taught a lesson with the steely resolve that President Trump is known for. Erik Prince.

[A]

Waltz and Fry are using the shit's method, show interest, then stall. And they figure if they placate him, tell him what he wants to hear, he's not going to hold him to it. The other thing I would add to what Mike was saying, all his good points, is to go after the banking of anyone that's here illegally. You can sic the compliance officers of all these banks, instead of them going after American citizens, they can actually debank and they can be incentivized to do so. That the bank either pays an enormous fine for banking illegals or they seize those accounts, alert dhs. And the money part of that money that's been here accumulated while working illegally can be repatriated to those people once they're back in the country after they pay an exit tax for leaving the United States. These are the things, the whole of government things that the President must do if he's going to hit the kind of numbers that he campaigned on, that we need to do to preserve our republic. The Democrats are all about flooding.

[B]

Look, I'm a big.

[A]

They admitted that business models to steal elections.

[B]

Those are their voters.

[A]

This if, if this doesn't happen again. This gets solved at the ballot box or it gets solved with a cartridge box. Yeah, this is the law and order, rule of law way to solve this. And if not, it's going to get solved other ways that people cannot even imagine.

[B]

CIS reports they did the back of the envelope. Over 2 million illegal alien invaders self deported, they went home because things got too tough in places like LA because of President Trump's surge. We can, we can get not just numbers officially with bounties and others, but unofficially. They're going to start leaving when life gets too tough, right. When they can't, you know, leech off the United States or America and they have to go, you know, they're going to look an alternative. Let me just get out of here. Right? It's better than going to jail.

[A]

They can't rent, you know, babe, they can't rent.

[B]

Go ahead.

[A]

When they can't rent housing, vehicles, employment, when they can't bank, it's going to start drying up anywhere that they actually have sanctuary. Whether the Dems like it or not. There is a lot. I mean, look in, in the Middle east, they take immigration extremely seriously. You have to show proof of residency for pretty much anything you do, whether you're renting a car, renting a house, an apartment, a dwelling, bank accounts, all of that. That's very, very basic rule of law stuff. Do that and we win this.

[B]

The CCP has I think a 15 or 17% implosion in birth rate. They're not. You can't go there. You can't, you can't go there and say, hey, I think I want to be a citizen. It doesn't work like that. And they're in Japan. Hang over a second. Because I got time constraints. Sam, give me two minutes on this. Because you're an expert in the red Green alliance. Then I've got to get to Iran and Persia while I got. Prince Eric's got to bounce for a meeting. Give me two minutes on what you're seeing on this insurrection. What is the advice of Sam Faddis to the President?

[A]

I would second everything that you have said and everybody else has said, Right. This would be a whole of government approach. You shouldn't be able to have a job, have a bank account, buy a car, etc. The other thing I would throw into the mix is this ICE Watch and the affiliated groups nationwide. These groups exist to impede and obstruct federal officers in the enforcement of a law that is a conspiracy, that is a felony that's punishable by up to 20 years in jail. So there shouldn't be anybody free who is organizing teams, vectoring them in on ice, teaching people how to de arrest as they call it, which is physically intervene in this process. All of that is a federal that those are all federal crimes. So everybody that thinks it's cool to set this up, organize it, train these people, they ought to all be in custody and this whole apparatus ought to be shut down. When you're talking about us earlier, just leaving these ICE guys to handle this.

[B]

One confrontation at a time on the.

[A]

Street, that, that resonates with me. Why are we doing that? There are in many Minneapolis, at any one point in time, something like by this is by the Left's own admission, 4 to 5,000 trained people on the street in an organized fashion confronting ice. Wait, why are we allowing that to exist? Every person who's part of that apparatus.

[B]

Amen.

[A]

Ought to be in custody.

[B]

Erik Prince this is my point about the high school gym pick up from what Faddis is saying, this is part of the problem. It's not just the massive illegal aliens, but it's the mayor and the governor that won't send the police department that has the. They have the National Guard doing a cultural revolution humiliation exercise to put them in the sanitation department yellow vests and make them hand out coffee and donuts to the ICE Watch people. That's done on purpose to humiliate them and to show the ICE Watch people that you're senior here, you're superior right there. They should have rolled up Waltz. They should roll up, go in his office, kick down the door and drag him out. Eric, your thoughts on what Sam Faddes.

[A]

Just said in the settling of the American west. The Pinkerton detective agency had six times the amount of armed personnel as the U.S. army. There is all kinds of precedents for deputization of Pinkerton's or other people working with and on the behest of federal law enforcement. Lots of options for innovative law enforcement solutions to amplify the numbers of competent trained people they could put in the field to overmatch. It's sad. Any, any resort to firearms in these cases is because they're not overmatched. So if you have three to five thousand trained crazy leftist activists, fine. Bring 5,000 properly trained law enforcement military veteran professionals and kindly induce them to better behavior as deputized agents of the federal law enforcement. This is not rocket science.

[B]

Sam, if we did your program, if the president followed your lead and did that program, the whole of government, how long do you think it would be before we break the back of the black bloc antifa professional insurrectionists or the overwhelming majority of these Ice Watch people, sir.

[A]

Almost overnight, Steve. I mean look, these guys operate on unencrypted open channels, communicating, identifying the folks who are collecting the data, vectoring in these teams and doing all this stuff is not hard.

[B]

Right.

[A]

All you have to do is is flip that switch. It is no longer you are no longer to allowed to engage with impunity in a conspiracy to obstruct and impede federal law enforcement. Which is black letter law. Right. There's no ambiguity here. So you thought this was cool? We now own we seized your funds, we seized your computers and you guys are all in jail and the comms are gone and the whole structure is gone. Now, will that still leave some crazy people running around the street? Yes, obviously. But we'll transform this thing overnight from you. Amen. Having to pick these guys off individually. Amen.

[B]

Okay guys, hang on because we're going to go from the streets of Minneapolis to the streets of Tehran and we're going to talk about the logistics set up for this assault and the logic of it, or maybe the illogic of it. We'll be back in a moment. I want to tell you remember, it's not the price of gold. Although we started you in this program at about a thousand bucks. Gold is now surging to almost $5,300 an ounce. Silver's at 112 on the weakness of the dollar. Gosh, wherever heard that before. Oh yeah, that's right. The end of the dollar empire. Go to Birch Gold right now. Promo code Bannon. Start. Start reading up. Get smart. But most importantly, talk to Philip Patrick and the team. His magisterial hit the other day. We talked about the central banks and what's happening here. We'll get you up to speed on the knowledge you need. It ain't the price, it's the process. Get there today. Talk to Philip Patrick's team at Birchgold Short Commercial break Sam Faddis, Eric Prince on the other side, imagine having the world's most connected financial insider feeding you vital information, the kind of information only a handful of people have access to and that could create a fortune for those who know what to do with it. That's exactly what you get when you join our frequent guest and contributor Jim Rickards in his elite research service, Strategic Intelligence. Inside Strategic Intelligence. You'll hear directly from Jim and receive critical updates on major financial and political events before they hit the mainstream news. He'll put you in front of the story and tell you exactly what moves to make for your best chance to profit as a proud American. You do not want to be caught off guard. Sign up for strategic intelligence right now at your our exclusive website. That's rickardswarroom.com rickardswarroom.com you go there, you get strategic intelligence based upon predictive analytics. Do it today, right now. Rickards war room.com war room.

[A]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.

[B]

Okay, the focus has to be on the streets of Minneapolis because we have an armed insurrection challenging the Trump administration in the entire American republic because this is a combination of Marxist jihadists. They're fighting to keep illegal alien invaders, including the hardened criminals, here in your country. Because it's their business model. They can't win elections unless they have illegal aliens voting or at least on some sort of role that you don't check the IDs, it's quite open what the scam is. Jesse Kelly magnificently said, hey, the Democrat party's probably got 20% of the oligarchs. You know, they get the wealthy, the credentialed class, and then this kind of proletariat underneath that they put on welfare. Right. That has no shot. So it's against the working class, Hispanics, blacks, white working class, in the middle class. That's the two sides here. So what side are you on, Erik Prince? But we're spending a lot of time and an effort sending a carrier strike group to the North Arabian Sea. As the audience knows, I was there for the first rodeo that didn't turn out particularly well. A lot of changes since 1979 and 1980. Sam Faddis knows he spent his career over there. You spent so much time there. We're pulling together an armada, although I think it's uae and I think he may be in the Saudis. Definitely UAE saying, hey, look, you can't use our airspace. We don't want any part of this right now. Number one, why are we bringing all this hardware? And number two, what is the strategic logic? Because the people in, as we, as we screw, as we screw it down tighter economically and we haven't gone all the way because still letting the oil get out and the CCP give the moolahs cash because they are a partner with them. And I realized there's maybe 5, 10, they're saying 30,000 every day the number goes up. Right. It's, it's, it's harder to get real numbers here than is in Ukraine. About the Ukraine military, how many they've lost. But but if you decapitate your problem. These people brought this revolution on themselves. These people are Muslims. These people have brought on an Islamic republic. I understand it didn't work out. We told them that at the time it wasn't going to work out. But it is what it is. It's their responsibility to take care of it. Eric Prince, your thoughts on this?

[A]

There's a reason Iran does not have an Independence Day. Because they haven't been conquered or colonized. They haven't had to get independence really, since they were. They were conquered by Alexander the Great 2300 years ago. The Zagros Mountains, the natural bowl, features the geography not great for invasion. I don't really know what the US Hopes to achieve by a big military show of force if they smash a bunch of targets inside of Iran. The question is, who actually takes over? Iran has multi layers of governance. Sure, the top layer is an awful, putrid one of a bunch of crazy mullahs not loved by anyone, in fact, hated. But the fact is, if you remove that, who actually takes over? It's not going to be the Reza Pahlavi, the son of the Shah. There is no other natural leader. The protesters in the streets, yeah, some have been killed. Don't know if it's 30,000 or if it's 3,000 or if it's 300. Any number of that is terrible, but not our problem. It is not the primary responsibility of the United States, and I do not want US Foreign policy dictated by what is good for Tel Aviv. And I feel like the Iran issue keeps getting dragged back to the top, top of the focus. I'm with you. Let's deal with the Communists in our own cities and clean that rot out before we worry about Iran. Exactly 8,000 miles away from the United States.

[B]

Now, President Trump, President Trump has said that they've reached out to him and they're trying to figure something out. President Trump has said this. Also, Matt Boyle, I think it's jpl, that great polling that does a lot for the Daily Mail. I think they did one that Breitbart reported exclusively this morning. I'll get Bull on here tomorrow about the polling. And it's like, I don't know, it's 50% of the American people say fine. Or, you know, fine. I think it's combined below 50. But the second question was, if there was one American casualty, what would your belief be? And it drops down to like 16% people. Theoretically, yeah, theoretically. They're bad guys, etc. But go ahead, sir.

[A]

And that's the thing if you're going to put, if you're, you're, you're making this big flex of putting all these aircraft and weapon systems over Iran. The last time we did that, yes, apparently none were shot down. If the enemy knows you're coming that much in advance again, when the US Was bombing the Serbs, they even managed with a lucky shot to shoot down an F117. Became a huge POW and technology transfer problem. Is it worth rolling that dice to bomb Iran again? If there's desire to support Iranian patriots, to take back part of the country and to chew up the mullahs that way, fine. Other people can do that. It does not have to be the responsibility of the United States.

[B]

The two expeditionary efforts under President Trump have been magnificent. That's just no question. I mean, and I think if people knew the scale of these and the complexity, the, the, the, the end of the 12 Day War was magnificent. The, the operation in Venezuela, Eric, which, which, you know, because you've, you've thought that problem through, was pretty magnificent, was it not? Although we did come very close, as everybody knows now. Very close.

[A]

It came extremely close. It comes down to the lead pilot flying the lead Chinook, the guy who planned the mission as he's on the way in, right? Cyclic and collective and throttle. He's flying the helicopter. His right leg takes three rounds, smashes the bone, can't run the pedals. He can't turn the helicopter over to his co pilot because his controls have been shot up. So the co pilot runs the pedals. The pilot in charge, still running the cyclic and collective. He doesn't crash, he doesn't freak out. He gets the guys into the LZ. And so instead of a chinook down scenario with 30 dead, they finished the mission. So they were, they were about 30 seconds and one a cockpit full of, of balls that got that mission done. That was a very, very close dice throw.

[B]

Eric, we got a bounce. Just send us to the side site for the, for the phone and I'll, I'll make the pitch next. I know you got to take off for a meeting.

[A]

Go to.

[B]

Send us to the website. What's the website?

[A]

War room. Unplugged.com. war room. We've got some phenomenal new studies that have just come out showing the very high end, let's say CIA adjacent penetration firms that have not hacked or connect cannot access the unplugged phone. So get yours today. Gotta run.

[B]

Unplugged.com promo code. War this. Keep the bad guys out. This is the phone Eric Prince. Thank you, brother. Talk to you later. Fattest is going to stick around. We're gonna get his perspective. He spent his career over there. Raymond Ibrahim is also going to join us live in the war room next. Holidays are here. And while the rest of the world follows the script written by Big Pharma, real Americans are taking control of their own health. You do not need permission from a corporate medical machine to care for yourself. That is where all family pharmacy comes in. It is simple. Go to allfamilypharmacy.com Bannon that is one word. Allfamilypharmacy.com Place your order online and a licensed physician reviews it. Once approved, your medication is shipped directly to your home. Whether it's ivermectin, antibiotics or your everyday medications, they have you covered. Everything is handled quickly, privately and securely. This holiday season, don't let big Pharma or the government tell you how to stay healthy. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com Bannon and save 10% with code BANNON10. Take control of your health. Stay independent, stay free and stay healthy.