Congressman Keith Self (6:10)

Well, I have to tell you, I think TDS Trump Derangement Syndrome knows no bounds. Because if they think they want to be an ally with communist China, they better be ready to be a subservient junior partner in anything they do over there. This is ludicrous. We have tried for 30 plus years to bring China into the global industrial complex. They still pollute, they still build.

Mike Lindell (6:40)

All.

Congressman Keith Self (6:40)

The power plants they need. Why? Because they intend to dominate the world. Their road and belt initiative continues even though there are some cracks in it. So I don't recommend that any western nation partner with the communist Chinese because they are going to extract, when they do a project for you, they import the labor, they import the resources, the construction materials and they give you nothing other than a shabby job. So this is not in their best interest. They need to understand they are part of Western civilization. They need to get a handle on their mass migration and they need to step away from communist China. Look, the fact that he's purging his military, Xi is purging his military, means that the corruption in communist China is still rampant.

Natalie Winters (7:33)

Congressman Self, I want to pivot to, to. I think one of the other existential threats that the United States faces that of course is Sharia law, the spread of the Muslim Brotherhood. Name your sect, name your radical ideology, but you have started the Sharia Free America Caucus. Again, that seems tautological. We shouldn't have to say that. But I guess in 2026 we have to be very clear and redundant that America is a Sharia free place. You had a wonderful press conference today. I was wondering if you could walk the audience through and take your time. What exactly this caucus is, what the principles are and what you're looking to do with it.

Congressman Keith Self (8:10)

Yeah. Thank you, Natalie. Yes, we have 33 members now in the House of Representatives from 18 states across the country. So we represent more than a third of the country. So the Sharia Free America Caucus is meant to do several things. First of all, raise the awareness among our colleagues in Congress that this is not a Texas problem, it's not a Minnesota problem. It is a problem that is spreading across America and spreading fast. Senator Tuberville, who was there with us today, he told me early that, look, the same thing that's happening in North Texas, we. We are ground zero. He said the same thing is happening in North Alabama. A Florida congressman told me the same thing is happening in Florida, it's spreading across the United States, and people are becoming aware of it. I think now we have seven bills that have been filed that have been introduced to do various things. First of all, to not let American courts accept Sharia court law, to ban Sharia across America for those that advocate for it, to basically deport faith foreign nationals who adhere to Sharia, and then to take tax advantages away from CAIR and organizations, plus designate both the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR as terrorist organizations, which they are. So I held up a copy of the explanatory memo, which is the battle plan, which is the written formal plan for how the Muslim Brotherhood intends to conquer America. We gave them a link to the document, we gave them some quotes from the document. And I will tell you, we had 18 of the caucus members there at the press conference today. And I thought it flowed very well because everyone had their details, had their points. They all worked together very well to present a comprehensive picture of what Sharia is, what Sharia demands, and the impacts of Sharia across the states that were represented there on the dais with me. So it's a great start. This caucus actually started with a conversation between Senator Tuberville and myself at the White House Christmas party. So that tells you how new the Congress is. So we are moving forward. Those are our goals. And I think that we are going to be extremely successful in moving forward to let the nation know. One of the things that we're seeing, Natalie, is that people now have permission. They now understand they can talk about this. So once they are able to talk about it, they have, you know, people are talking about it. Stories are starting to roll out. And that's the good thing, because people have kind of been quiet about it, but now they understand the danger. Now they understand they can talk about it. Sure. You're going to be called an Islamophobe if they care to do that. And they Will there will be pushback? This will take courage. And I just encourage our citizens not to be intimidated as we go through this.

Natalie Winters (11:18)

Congressman Self, I'm curious where you see this problem originating. Is this something that is sort of a homegrown problem? Right. Are these mosques just extremely radical they're whipping up, I mean really just doctrinal, actual, just reading the Quran for what it is, It's a very radical book and ideology. Or is this something that is sort of a fusion where we're actually importing so many refugees, migrants, illegal aliens, take your pick from Muslim majority countries. It seems like an unending stream and not really vetting these people. Or is it sort of a mix of the both? What do you think is really contributing to this problem?

Congressman Keith Self (11:55)

Well, I think we have to look at the UK and France because UK and France have had mass migration of Muslims over the years. They're 10 years ahead of us. I don't know. But you see what the impact on the UK and France. Now the Sharia dominant Muslims in those two countries are demanding accommodation. So they pray in the street. Why do they pray in the street? It's not that they have to pray in the street. They want to show that they are dominant. They are causing other people to go around them. So here in the United States we've got several examples of this creeping harassment, this infiltration and then dividing. So when they tell an American that you can't walk your dog down the sidewalk because it offends them, that is a dominant move. When an Imam goes around in Houston and tells the store owners that they cannot sell items that are haram, that don't comply with Sharia, that's harassment, that's intimidation. That's a dominant move. So they start out by infiltration, moving in and then they start to demand accommodation. They're not here to assimilate. Let's be honest. Foreigners that have come to the United States for many, many years wanted to assimilate. Might have taken the first generation, the second generation, but by the third generation they were assimilated. The Muslims coming here have no intention to do that. In my district there is now called the Meadows Epic city. It's a 400 plus acre town that's being developed, it's planned, they're submitting their documents to the county. It's going to be around built around a huge mosque and it will be Muslim only. We don't want no go zones. And frankly, I want to speak to your women who are viewing this program. Women are without a doubt technically actually second class citizens under Sharia, you have child marriage, you have wife beatings, you have stoning for adultery of the woman. So there is no doubt. I don't know where the feminists are on this because second class citizenship under Sharia is a real thing.

Natalie Winters (14:16)

They're too busy being plagued by cultural relativism, I guess. Congressman Self, we appreciate the work you're doing. If people want to follow you, get access to all the materials you were just talking about. Where can they go to do that?

Congressman Keith Self (14:28)

Well, social media, whatever the format is. Rep. KEITH Sales, Rep. Keith Self, my website is keithself.house.gov G O V thank.

Natalie Winters (14:40)

You sir for joining us. We'll have you back soon. Keep up the good work. The real fight I remember I went on Piers Morgan and I said that Islam was a religion of pedophilia, among other things, and I never received more hate. And I've said a lot of things that probably could have, could have gotten me some hate, but it's true. I stand by it. We'll be right back.

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Oscar Blue Ramirez (18:05)

Right here to El Salvador we enter the CCAT that it was a whole process. This is this facility that it was designed by the Najibo Kele and the government of El Salvador to hold these gangs that you're designated as a terrorist organization. It has a capacity of 40,000. Right now it is holding more than 20,000 that a lot of them were the majority, you know, they were deported from the United States under the Prophet administration just recently in accordance and in allegiance with Najib Bukele, deported all the way to El Salvador to this terrorist facility. We entered this facility and you know, it is just incredible. It's incredible. You see all these terrorists just lined up in these, you know, you can call them cages, whatever you want to call them. But the majority of the people right here in El Salvador, they say that they deserve, that they deserve to have peace. A lot of these criminals, they have a sentence of 780 years for multiple homicides. There was a guy that killed more than 50 plus people. He has a sentence of 915 years. And we interviewed one Ms. Gang member. You're going to have that footage on RAV on Real America's Voice News and also RAV and Espanol we interviewed one personally that he told us that he was from the MS.13 inside of the United States operating under the Biden administration. He did multiple crimes inside of the United States and he was aligned with apartheid in Mexico. These statements, we have them right here on an interview, a really private interview with him when we were in sea cotting the facility.

Natalie Winters (19:38)

It seems like a lot of the issues that we're having that are stalling the mass deportations have to do with infrastructure, building capacity. I think they're now buying up some warehouses. It's quite expensive. But what do you think the United States could learn from how El Salvador is dealing with this? I mean, like you said, just mass incarceration, mass housing of, you know, very bad hombres, to use a term. What do you, what do you think are the lessons that the United States can take?

Oscar Blue Ramirez (20:05)

I asked the Minister of Defense just yesterday, how can this operation can be copy pasted to the United States of America? And he said on the operational level, on the territory and the land, a lot of intelligence can be used. They gave the full force to the military to go and combat these gangs that are designated as terrorists. Immediately taking them one by one, closing perimeters, closing the borders of the country so they will not escape to other foreign countries that they were connected to their borders. That is what the United States can do. And immediately create a prison that is designated for these particular individuals who they cannot be reinserted into society. The authorities are telling us these individuals were decapitating, dismembering, you know, burning bodies, doing rituals with the devil, basically taking advantage, extortioning, kidnapping, all the criminal acts that you cannot even imagine these individuals were doing them. And these, a lot of these people, Natalie, this is the most aggravated thing that were inside of the United States. And because of the allegiance between Bukele and Donald Trump, these individuals, now they are in the hands of the El Salvadorian government.

Natalie Winters (21:17)

Well, in talking about that alliance, I mean, I think I'm certainly heartened to see obviously that in Costa Rica they had a populace of Laura Fernandez victory. But I think that the Seekot story is one that fits very nicely with President Trump's national security strategy, the Don Row doctrine, whatever you want to call it, but, you know, prioritizing the Western hemisphere, ensuring not just that the Chinese Communist Party doesn't take over these countries, but that they actually can be used to sort of benefit the United States from a national security perspective. This template where we see these positive sort of mutually beneficial symbiotic relationships between us, these Latin, Central, South American countries. Where else do you see that playing out? I know you're around the region a lot, but do you think you could see this sort of replicate itself in other countries as well?

Oscar Blue Ramirez (22:08)

Absolutely. And guess what, Natalie, all of them, they believe in secure borders. And it started with the United States of America. It was a domino effect from the Trump administration that has created this trickle effect into Central and South America. What the Trump administration has done is, you know, give courage to these countries so they can execute their constitutional rights and they can secure their borders. This exactly happened when the Trump administration came into office. The whole dairying gap was shut down. They plan Del Golfo that it was trafficking massively through this jungle, but it was completely shut down. All the countries now they have control of the borders. Just because the Trump administration decided to just, you know what, we're going to secure our border, we're going to secure our country. And that gave these other countries the availability to just basically secure their borders and have the power to go against these criminal organizations massively.

Natalie Winters (23:01)

Oscar, walk us through just a little bit more on this global immigration compact. I know you've been following that for a while. Obviously they tried to deport, I think, what was it, 350,000 Haitian migrants, refugees. I never even know what term to use from the United States. A radical judge stepped in. From your perspective, is this sort of firewall of rogue judges becoming the new enforcement mechanism for some of these open borders policies? Or why have we not seen the, you know, I think adequate or sufficient numbers of actual deportations happening that we need to be seeing?

Oscar Blue Ramirez (23:38)

Well, there's a couple of things that happen in the United States of America. The Globalist Compact of Immigration was brought to the West Hemisphere on the last days by Barack Obama. As soon as Donald Trump came into office, he got out of it. Then the stolen election on 2020, and then you have Joe Biden bringing the Globalist Compact of Immigration. Then on this compact that tells you that you have to open the border, receive every single individual through a non port of entry, keep them housing, give them school, give them. This was actually happening under the four years of the Biden administration. And guess what? The Trump administration again has canceled that and said, we are not part of this compact of immigration. The biggest mistake was to give the power to these NGOs, that there are the wings of the United nations, give the power of the borders of the United States of America to the United Nations. And that was a full issue. Natalie, you see the Border Patrol just standing sometimes seeing thousands and thousands walking through and being the uber of these individuals to holding facilities because of the United nations have power over the United States. You know, the whole issue right here that resolves is to never go back to these globalist compacts because if you go back, you have more than 2.6 million migrants waiting in the vicinity of Mexico, in some parts of Guatemala to see what is going to happen on the 2028 election.

Natalie Winters (25:03)

Oscar, I like you too much to risk your life by having you continue to stand on that road. So I'm going to let you bounce. You're giving me anxiety. But if people want to follow you, stay up to date with all of the wonderful firsthand hands on reporting that you're doing. Where can they go to see that.

Oscar Blue Ramirez (25:21)

First and foremost, Real America's Voices has opened up in RAB in Spanish RAB en Espanol. You can see programs like Raymond and SAR tonight that they're bringing all the heat and all the information expanding to that. So be sure to be following ravens on your own. So you can find me Real Americans Voice News and all my accounts and ex of Oscar Ramirez. TJ also is Oscar Blue Ramirez everywhere and of course at Real America's Voice News. Natalie, thank you so much for the invitation.

Natalie Winters (25:47)

Thank you sir for joining us. We'll have you back on soon. Warren Posse I want to direct your attention to another concerning story speaking of globalists in the United nations which I hear is going bankrupt. Don't say you didn't vote for that. I know we've officially drawn out of the World Health Organization but I think Covid lets us all know that even if we draw out of that it actually doesn't really matter because pathogens viruses organically naturally created or gain a function lab created. They don't understand borders. But it's quite interesting. I'm sure you guys have seen seen that the Nipah virus has been causing some lockdowns and quarantines across Southeast Asia. I think it's even making its way into Brazil and some other countries a little bit closer to us. But what is so interesting about this outbreak is actually that on my substack if you want to pull up the article it's nataliegwinters.substack.com I encourage you to read this one. It's quite mind blowing. Late 2025, I'm talking like the end of December the WHO actually held a mock pandemic a simulation exercise with the respiratory illness of which Nipah virus is one of those among other ways that it spreads, but in Southeast Asia in the same exact region where this pandemic is now happening. And I know the war room audience is very much ahead of the curve. And when I say event 201, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. The curiously timed, basically Covid simulation run by Johns Hopkins, the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, the World Economic Forum, all of the bad hombres. Maybe we'll take that term too and apply it to them. It happened, like I said, just before a COVID 19 pandemic emerged. And now this is called the crystal simulation. Maybe they have a crystal ball and they can see into the future, but like I said, happened in late December. And now we are seeing a eerily and strikingly similar potential pandemic sort of break out in that same region that they were doing that the who actually captioned the description of the exercise as the next pandemic is coming very definitive. I don't like that verb tense when used by the who. And if the word pandemic is anywhere near that sentence. We're going to be joined by Mike Howell shortly. We're going to get into the latest on immigration and what Congress is is failing to do to help return this country to its glory, which includes mass deportations. We'll be right back after the short break.

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That's birchgold.com Bannon welcome back to the War Room Denver. If you can toss up this horrible CNN article on screen, it's almost like the globalist hacks over there can't conceal their joy or excitement for the prospect of the Chinese Communist Party overtaking the United States on the world stage. They talk about how with the host of foreign visits that Xi Jinping has been entertaining over there, particularly from Western countries who seem to sort of be reneging on the traditional US dominated trade and economic hierarchy. Obviously coupled with Xi Jinping calling for the Chinese currency to become the sort of new global reserve currency, all of this together, I think it's quite interesting. Basically, on every single issue, the legacy media has been wrong. Whether it's the origins of COVID misinformation, I could go on election integrity, you name it. But I also think one of their most serious, I would say, misdiagnoses is that of the threat that the Chinese Communist Party poses. And you see it on full display in this article. And it's quite interesting watching all these intellectuals who told us that China wasn't a threat, they are so great, we should trade with them. I believe it was Joe Biden who wrote op ed for the New York Times in the early 2010s saying that China isn't a threat, it's a rising tide, lifts all boats. They're actually our friend, they're not an enemy. But now all of a sudden, the 11th hour, all of these people are realizing what we've been telling you here on the War Room for years, what feels like decades, is that the Chinese Communist Party is indeed a very serious and very credible threat. And you're seeing that on full display right now. The way that Keir Starmer was treated when he went over there, not just the fact that he didn't even get a private tour of the Forbidden City, that's unheard of. They also, I think, found the only people above 6ft tall in the entirety of China and made him dress up as guards when they were doing the formal procession. So he, he was mogged, as the kids would say, he looked very tiny. And he was grabbed by one of the premier CCP officials and yanked over like this. And the only reason that he even was allowed to go on that trip in the first place, the operative where they're being allowed was because they granted China rights to basically new, much larger, sure, great for intelligence gathering purposes, embassy in the uk. And in exchange he got basically nothing. And Mark Carney of course got, I think, what was it, about six or so MOUs. But I guess to get that, he had to publicly shill for the Chinese Communist Party on what seems to be a lot of global stages recently, most notably calling straight out in the open for a new world order. I believe that was at Davos. And obviously what you're seeing going on with the Central Military Commission with Xi Jinping purging generals, further consolidating power, showing that he is strong as ever. But I think really quite concerning the movements that we're seeing around Taiwan. Not just the escalated intensity of the naval exercises that are going on there, but the types of people that are being installed at the highest levels of China's Central Military Commission. The vice chairman that's sort of the second in command level. That's where we've seen a lot of the purges. I think it's upwards of like 80%. It's wild of his generals are gone, but they're basically filling the decks with the younger crowd, which ascribes to what is colloquially known as the wolf warrior diplomacy style, which is much more aggressive. They think Taiwan is theirs. I would just remind China that you never had any presence, authority, dominion or sovereignty or territorial claims to Taiwan. I think the Netherlands has more than you guys do. But that a lot of these generals are so obsessed with pleasing Xi Jinping. It's this form of political correctness where they will just yes, man him essentially into invading Taiwan and they're much more aligned with that 2027 invasion plan as opposed to 2035 or beyond. I don't harp on just because Taiwan is important. It's important because it is the front lines to that new world order. If when China were to invade, whether kinetically hybrid gray zone, take your pick, that would be very, very bad, not just for Taiwan, but for the world order as we know it. And we already see, you know, you want to talk about election interference, what the Chinese Communist Party does there with the kmt, how they buy off elections, how they pay off candidates. I mean, you think it's bad here, it's wild what goes on there. And now, and yet another display of complete and utter fealty. You got the vice chairman of the KMT going overseas to China, leading a 40 person delegation, totally kissing up sycophantically to the Chinese Communist Party, completely selling out. And here's why this is so important. You want to talk about when you're seeing this new world order come and start butting heads, you can see it right now on the issue of Taiwan's defense budget. Again, understanding Taiwan as a sort of flashpoint in what is the potential kinetic part of World War Three. Certainly the economic and Information warfare stuff is already underway, but it's really quite concerning because it's all over the special defense budget which the dpp, the current party in power there, is trying to push, get it up to US$40 million to make sure that Taiwan can actually deter effectively the Chinese Communist Party. But you see their opposition introducing legislation to neuter that to basically $0. Think it's around 10 million, but I'm sure they would love it to be zero and they want that. And they, because that's what their Chinese Communist Party overlords are telling them to do. And within the Legislative Yuan, which is their equivalent of Congress or Parliament, the kmt. So the CCP proxy has a majority or plurality I guess of 52 seats. The DPP is at 51. And TPP, this sort of third party is at eight seats. The United States has expressed President Trump, that they want Taiwan to pass this budget. They desperately need it. And meanwhile the Chinese Communist Party obviously does not want it to happen. So when you bring all this together, it's quite clear that we are seeing in real time, like even the CNN article picks up flashpoints in the global struggle for sovereignty between the United States of America and the Chinese Communist Party. And the Chinese Communist Party is rolling extremely hard and it's very concerning and you know, we'll get into it at some point down the road. But this, this special defense budget really I think is becoming a test, sort of first round or first instance where you're seeing the Chinese Communist Party sort of running roughshod over the United States and getting what they want through various means of political hybrid and in some cases kinetic warfare. And I will stop my rambling there because we've got the one and only Mike Howell who joins us to talk about, I guess we're talking about warfare. We'll throw lawfare in there too, though. I think the Chinese Communist Party came up with that as part of their three warfare's doctrine. But Mike, speaking of lawfare, all things Ed Martin, I know you guys have been tracking everything going on with him closely. There's a lot of reports. I never know what to make of it. I don't believe anything the legacy media says. But certainly some noise perhaps signal, I don't know. But your thoughts on the situation with Ed Martin over at doj?

Mike Howell (39:31)

Ed Martin's not going anywhere. I just spoke to him and he's got the President's full backing. Don't listen to any of the noise. The reason why he has the President's backing is because he is loyal to the agenda that got President Trump into the White House. You know, we have worked so closely with them out of the oversight project on the things that I think the base expected to be delivered, whether it was the pardons of the contingent electors that, you know, in the state cases, which, by the way, DOJ still needs to take some steps to take care of those people, or if it was raining in D.C. when he was picked, as you know, the U.S. attorney and then taken out by Senator Thom Tillis, who no longer will be a senator pretty soon. Ed Martin is the bleeding edge and the voice of the base and he's not going anywhere. The eagle is going to stay soaring.

Natalie Winters (40:18)

What do you, what do you think we can come to expect on the election integrity fight that we're seeing going on? I think they just sort of announced that Tulsi was going to be the point person on that. But there's a lot of sort of, you know, curiously timed whistleblower complaints coming out now. Walk us through that vertical, too.

Mike Howell (40:39)

Yeah. So there's many verticals within that vertical. Obviously, you know, Tulsi Gabbard has a pretty strong purview into the security of the systems and she's pushing hard and facing a lot of blowback for it. I think there is a recognition setting in that not enough has been done on election integrity and the other verticals as well. You know, particularly, you know, we hear all the talk in Congress about the SAVE act and all that stuff, but the President's been abundantly clear as to what he wants to see in terms of improvements to the national election systems and how the states conduct them. And there just hasn't been that type of follow through, particularly out of, you know, doj. Harvey Dillon's done, done some good work, but there hasn't been this kind of prioritization that aligns with the President's rhetoric on it. And so I'm hoping, and we're seeing rumblings of that recognition setting in and being, you know, understood what needs to come next is sustained prioritization of it. We're very close to midterms and the Democrat base is going to be riled up with all of their fraud techniques. We still largely have the same broken systems that rigged the 2020 election. And it's going to be a, a force to contend with unless severe, swift and extreme action is taken soon. I like to say that our election security in the United States is worse than Dancing with the Stars. And I think that that holds up when we still have this mail in ballot issue. We Saw these hordes of illegals that many of whom we've proven to be registered to vote, and you have Congress asleep at the wheel and not enough action out of the admin. So a nothing to it but to do it, but it needs to get moving.

Natalie Winters (42:16)

It always just cracked me up when they say, oh, if we deport all the illegals, it's going to be bad for elections. I'm like, well, I thought they couldn't vote, but I digress. Mike, we've got a few minutes before we got a bounce to break. I definitely want to hold you through. I'm just curious your overall assessment. Obviously, there's a lot to be desired on the accountability front with what we're seeing from the admin right now. Is it a problem of who is in there or is it a problem of a shortage of people like the doj? It seems like they're having issues, maybe getting lawyers and stuff like that, but then they're also acting or allegedly, but not some of their best people. What do you think the issue is?

Mike Howell (42:53)

Yeah, it's both of those things. And this is a story as old as time. I remember this from Trump Admin one, you know, lock her up and then wait, nevermind. There is always this political tension where when people come in after a campaign, they want to just look forward and not backwards. The problem is you absolutely have to look backwards at what happened in the Biden years with the election, with the weaponization, with the law. Fair people need to be held accountable. And that was, you know, the first time, I think, in an American presidential election. That was the overriding theme. Right? It was, I am your voice, I'm your retribution. We're going to solve for the problems that you guys suffered through for four years. And instead you have a lot of people who get into the administration and want to go on to their next thing. Right? You want to be a cabinet secretary of business as usual and not. It's hard to look back, it's hard to investigate your own agency, it's hard to review documents, to interview people and whatnot. Cutting ribbons is easy, you know, cashing checks, doing press conference and tweeting. That's the easy part. That's the fun part. So that's always been a problem, but it wasn't supposed to be a problem. This goes.

Natalie Winters (43:59)

The hard part of the show is that I gotta cut you off while you're, while you're rolling. Bang with us through the break. We gotta keep drilling down on this. We'll be right back.

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Natalie Winters (45:16)

Here'S your host, Stephen K. Ban. Welcome back to the War room. Mike Howell, We've still got you. I want you to pick up where you left off but also loop us in on the probably most noble, the noblest of all fights, that is the immigration crusade. I know the left can't define what a woman is, but I think our side can't define what a mass deportation is. I don't think there were asterisks on there on the campaign trail that said worst of the worst are only criminals. But your thoughts on where we stand on all that?

Mike Howell (45:53)

Yeah, unfortunately that we're nowhere close to where we need to be or on a trajectory to get there. There's some reporting today about money being held up at DHS out of the one big beautiful bill. And if that's not in the system soon we just won't have the infrastructure not only to build the border wall but the detention facilities required. And I think the key problem here is the death spiral and the communications and rhetoric coming out of the administration that they'd only focus on criminals thinking that they could change liberals minds about even deporting criminals. And when that communications tactic turned into an operational limit, you reduced the scope of mass deportations dramatically. But here's the good news. I think it's set in people understand it. Now there are a lot of people out there who are big fans of the president and want him to meet the promise he made to beat Eisenhower. He can fix it if he puts ICE and DHS back on the mission that he sold to the American people. And we're gonna help him do it. You know, a lot of people are coming together to prove to the American people that we need. We can get to commas in the numbers and we need to get to commas in the numbers. And so it's gonna be a big public fight and we need the Warren posse absolutely engaged because we don't deport. We are going to have a country left.

Natalie Winters (47:02)

And just walk us through the latest with the tps. The temporary protected status for the cat, what is it? The cat eating Haitians. I guess you got the fraud scammy Somalis and then you got the cat eating Haitians. How's that for the lovely migrants that we let into this country now? But walk us through some radical judge blocking the deportation of those 350,000.

Mike Howell (47:30)

Right? So there's something called temporary protected status. The key word there is temporary. The Trump administration ended temporary protected status for the Haitians. A judge pops in for something that's not even judicially reviewable and says, absolutely no way you can do this. So we're back to judicial lawfare, extreme activism. And it just shows like, who gets more due process in the United States of America than the people who shouldn't be here. That is the opposite of America first. And that's why we need to really rededicate this administration to the prospect of supporting millions. It's just not fair to Americans to have their system of law inverted against them and in favor of people who shouldn't be there at all. And you know, we're just going to see more and more fraud, more and more judicial obstruction. So the only way through is, is just that through, it's through mass deportation. In the numbers game, hopefully this judge's decision gets tossed pretty quickly. But that's why you got to do it all front, all times, without exceptions and without nuance.

Natalie Winters (48:27)

Well, and I'm sorry, but like, we're giving this weird, perverted, you know, non American, migrant first version of the rule of law that's applying to people who came here illegally or barely legally from countries that don't even have anything reminiscent of the rule of law. And if Americans were to step foot there, I'd love to see the kind of kangaroo court that we got going on there. I mean, it is such an affront. It is such a slap in the face. Like you said. I mean, how can we put America first if we can't even define what a frickin American is? I think be American to these people means to scam the government, get on welfare, destroy the culture. But what do we get in return? I don't know. I don't think we Have. I know we're live for about a sixth of the day, but I don't think we even have enough time on Warren to answer that question. Maybe we get what cuisine? Well, I don't really like to eat cats or whatever voodoo food they serve, so I'm okay without them. We should definitely deport them. I'm sure, Mike, you share my viewpoint on that. If people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything you guys are working on over there. You guys are doing great work. Where can they go to do that?

Mike Howell (49:37)

Yeah, check us out on axe at it's your gov I'm how tweets. And enough of this anti feline, anti deportation judiciary out there. We got to send them back.

Natalie Winters (49:50)

Indeed, send them back. They should have never been here in the first place. Temporary is temporary. Thank you, sir. The GOP is certainly making the same mistake that they did back in 2013 when post what was it? Mitt Romney's loss. They wrote the autopsy saying that the way that we win elections is by going soft on immigration and trying to win over this elusive block of liberals, that maybe if we just convince them that only deporting the criminals is bad, that maybe they'll vote for us. It's like, no, these people don't like America. They don't think borders exist and they don't believe in countries. They don't care about criminals. They are themselves criminals. They vote for a party that is an institutionalized version of of criminality that's trying to destroy the United States from within. It's that simple. And this idea that we're going to court minorities or whatever demographic to vote for us by letting them in, it's not an issue worth compromising on. If we compromise on the fundamental core that is maga, then we are not MAGA anymore. You don't have maga. You don't have America first if you don't have citizenship and sovereignty. So by that logic, we should just get rid of everything that made us controversial, that made us defy the Republican establishment so we can court a voting base that, by the way, doesn't even want to hear your pitch. They tried to censor you. They tried to jail you. They tried to debank you. They tried to deplatform you. They have no interest in compromising with you. They don't care about, or they do care about deporting criminals because they themselves are criminals. So stop trying to appeal to people who hate you. I don't want unity with Democrats. I don't want unity with Sharia. Law adhering Muslims and I don't want unity with cat eating Haitians and I don't want unity with fraudulent scammy Somalis in Minnesota. I don't want it. I want unity with American citizens who are patriotic and love this country. Not that radical. Mike Lindell, you've got a minute. Tee off on anything I just said and give us the latest deals right on everybody.

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