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It's a huge deal, John. You know, it was a mystery. Now a little bit less so. And the new reporting from me, a source familiar briefed by the Federal Aviation Administration on this really unprecedented 10 day airspace shutdown over El Paso, Texas, right on the border there with Mexico, says this is all linked to military activity at nearby Fort Bliss, specifically Biggs Army Airfield. You can see it on the map there, just north of the El Paso International Airport. That is significant because it seems that the Defense Department was carrying out some sort of operation. They're still sort of unspecified, which caused the FAA to think that they could not assure the safety of flights going in and out of El Paso International Airport. Therefore that led to this blanket sweeping airspace shutdown without modern precedent. A lot of people online have been pointing to 911 as a similar incident causing something like this. That was a nationwide emergency airspace shutdown. The situation was fluid, but it was pretty obvious why that shutdown went into place. This really broke overnight and it wasn't very clear why this went into place. There is never ever in the history of the Federal Aviation Administration and I can say that with some authority as a pilot and a flight instructor, been a large scale shutdown of airspace over a large metropolitan area. We're talking about a city of about a million people, about a thousand flights operating in that 10 day period in and out of El Paso, Texas. We're getting a statement just shortly now from Southwest Airlines in which they will say they're trying to work with the FAA on this. This is going to have a pretty big ripple effect because this is not a small airport really billed as the gateway to Mexico, this airport. So this is going to have a big trickle. I want to also point out the things in this notice to Airmen or temporary flight restriction that make this so different than other temporary restrictions on flights that we see for things like VIP movements or presidential movements. This includes all flights up to 18,000ft. The emphasis there on all flights, that's commercial flights, also police helicopters and, and medevac helicopters. Usually those things are exempted from a large ban on airspace of about 10 miles here. So this is really significant, John, and the new details are just coming in. We now have a better idea of why this was put in place. A bit of an impasse between the Department of Defense and the Federal Aviation Administration.

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WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. It's Wednesday the 11th of February in the year of our Lord 2026. We're trying to get up we have a little technical issue because he happens to be out of the country. Eric Prince is going to join us momentarily. Of course, this massive breaking news about El Paso. Fortunately, we've had Eric up here really talk about what's happening today at the White House. So two things are going on we're going to try to juggle because we've got an absolute packed show. Pam Bondi, I believe, is in front of the Judiciary Committee that ought to be they will probably light her up on a number of topics. We're going to cut in and out of that, particularly opening statements. If we can do it real America's voice, we may go to no commercial breaks if we have to. Also, the most important thing was supposed to happen today is Bibi Netanyahu is coming to the White House. Now we just found out, as you normally know, as we do these evolutions, the flags come out the you know, there's some sort of even mini official arrival onto the West Wing, the kind of the working side of the White House, not the South Lawn, but the the West Wing side. As you know, many times we see this for these bidelats. The meeting's supposed to take place in the Oval Office, but we're just notified moments ago. And Brian Glenn's we're gonna get Brian Glenn up in a moment from the White House that it's closed press right now and we're not even sure that there's gonna be an honor guard or any type of flags, et cetera. In fact, Brian saying he may actually come in through the working side of the White House, which is down by the across from EOB where the staff comes in down by the National Security Council. Maybe the meeting's gonna be held there. Maybe that's why they're doing it. But the news is that President Trump has ordered. President Trump has ordered to put pressure on Tehran. There's comments coming out, or at least leaks coming out of the Department of War and the White House that President Trump has authorized a second carrier strike group to the North Arabian Sea. He's already got a carrier strike group there to. To make sure that the Iranians know the Ayatollah and the Mullahs know that President Trump means business here. Part of the reason Netanyahu is there is to make two cases. Number one, his case is that he's concerned that, I guess Witkoff and Jared Kushner have narrowed these discussions around Iran's nuclear program, its ballistic missile program, to make sure President Trump totally obliterated it to end the 12 day war. But there's some discussion about, do they still have some remnant left? Are they, are they still, you know, is getting nuclear, the nuclear. What you have to do to actually do weapons grade nuclear material, Is that still going? President Trump has said that has to all be eradicated. The, the mullahs and the ayatollahs, negotiators have said, well, that's not going to happen. Bibi's role, what he says is that those negotiations have to be broadened out to a whole host of other things which would tantamount to setting up for regime change, at least through negotiations. He is going to make the case, as you've heard Mark Levin and Senator Graham and others relentlessly over the last couple of weeks, make the case that if you don't strike now, you're not going to have, you're not going to have opportunity to strike later. They'll never be this week. And so there's a whole huge amount of tension about this. Bibi's actually moved it forward. He moved it forward, wants to press the case for military strike. I will tell you, given everything on the President's plate right now, including what we're seeing down in Texas, and this doesn't have to do with the, with El Paso, which I'll get to in a second, his plate is quite full and I just would think we got. Eric, his plate's quite full and so many other things going on. Okay, we're gonna get to all of this this morning. I wanna start. Erik Prince, thank you for joining us. I know you're overseas. First off, I've had a number of people come to Me, they just want to make sure you're safe and secure. We know you've been traveling throughout the world, particularly in some place, places with a lot of bad hombres. Are you, are you okay?

Eric Prince (10:51)

I am alive and free and enjoying life, Steve. So, yes, the, the fake news coming out of the clowns in Rwanda about capturing me were completely false. And they have taken some battlefield setbacks of late. I think they've resorted to just making up nonsense it talk.

Stephen K. Bannon (11:11)

Just give me a minute on that. Because you mentioned it, a lot of people have contacted me, said, hey, they were putting out actual information that you had been captured and were being held hostage or there were all types of nefarious things going on that we can put that rumor to bed.

Eric Prince (11:29)

Yes, you can put that rumor to bed. I've not been back on the continent of Africa in at least 30 days. But the fact is, Paul Kagame comes to a peace signing ceremony with President Trump on December 4th with the president of DRC, and while he's there, he's launching a further invasion of the Democratic Republic of Congo while sitting in the White House. And the White House was rightly upset about that because President Trump's been trying to be the president of peace and bringing parties together, trying to, you know, end wars. And Kagame launches an offensive. And so our primary job in the Congo right now is to do tax collection from the mines. And so some of that capability had to pivot to help stop another invasion by Rwanda of the Congo.

Stephen K. Bannon (12:25)

Eric, I had you on here today. Want to talk about Bibi and the situation in Toronto, potentially a second carrier battle group going. We got a couple of minutes. This break. I want to hold you through. You have been the guy for now a decade that has thought through what Venezuela, but particularly you've been at the tip of the spear and talking about the cartel's military interdiction. What's going to have to happen with these corrupt, the corrupt government in Mexico. Peter Schweitzer's book, New York Times number one bestseller, says the Mexican government's actively involved in the invasion of our country. We they shut down El Paso airspace. They just department war, just announced it because it's about militarized drones flown by the cartels. And I think they've taken care of or take care of the situation. Give me a minute on that before we go to break.

Eric Prince (13:13)

So for Columbia has had hundreds of drone attacks against Colombian security forces, armed drone attacks. They've had helicopters shot down, troops killed by very well armed cartels. I'm not surprised that that kind of cartel capability comes up to the southern border of the United States. I'm sure that notam that notice to airmen terminal fright restriction. Basically, it's like when you're going to fire live weapons on a, on a firing range, you clear the area. That's what happened. The Department of War probably had a lot of indications of drones coming and so they used some higher end capabilities, whether they're kinetic or EMPs or lasers to, to shoot all those threats out of the sky.

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Closure of airspace over El Paso. It's now been lifted. The agency said there is no threat to commercial aviation. All fights will soon resume as normal. This comes hours after fights in and out of El Paso International Airport were closed, with officials citing special security reasons. So this is good news, but the mystery remains. For those people who are heading home from El Paso, maybe you want to turn around or call your local airline.

Stephen K. Bannon (16:48)

Erik Prince joins us. Eric, remember those of a certain age, Remember the, remember the film Seven Days in May with Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas. It was centered around an air base near El Paso, Texas. The FAA has just said that these drones, these militarized drones did come into American airspace. Your thoughts, sir? The Department of War acted immediately. But your thoughts about this?

Eric Prince (17:18)

They could have even been heavy lift agricultural drones flown from Mexico carrying 10, 20, 50 kilos of narcotics to a predetermined drop location. So whether they're carrying weapons or drugs, it is part of a ongoing mechanized invasion enabled by the Mexican government's inability to clamp down on the criminal activity. And so at some point there has to be consequences. I'm not sure that the Mexican presidency is the fully witting and able counterparty, although I think she's better off than the predecessor. This will continue to be a problem when you have to shut down airspace for a million person city in America so that you can clear the skies with kinetic capability from the military. That is by definition an invasion and must be dealt with. This is, to me, this is far worse than those weather balloons or whatever, the surveillance balloons that the Chinese were flying across US airspace and Biden didn't dare shoot them down. I'm glad the War Department shot these things down. The question is how do they go after the sources now there's some very good tech available, learned from the Ukraine war to, to originate to locate the controller, the person, the pilot that's controlling those drones. At its origin, the question is, is the Department of War going to shoot back and either put a warhead or another drone back at that pilot location to kill whoever's doing it.

Stephen K. Bannon (18:52)

Schweizer's book shows that the Mexican government is first off, they're in business with the cartels, kind of control them and they also use the cartels their muscle. They're inextricably linked with. This book shows that the Mexican Government. The seven families that control Mexico are up to their neck in this with the cartels. They control the government. They're an enemy of the United States. They're not a friendly power we don't have. Correct me if I'm wrong, you're the military expert. Don't we have combat air patrol up all the time and particularly on the southern border just for situations like this and you've advocated for years. We got to start doing deep interdiction strikes into the cartel's bases in northern Mexico.

Eric Prince (19:34)

When. When Israel started tangling with Hezbollah back in 2000. Well after October 7th, they 50% of the FPVs first per first person viewer drones, attack drones that were flown by Hezbollah made it into Israel and hit their targets. So combat air patrol is flying at thousands and thousands of feet looking for another aircraft with a very high capable radar. It does not have the visibility to spot a tiny 4 or 10 or even 50 kg payload drone flying 100 meters from the surface. So I think the solution to the cartels is to kind of unleash a, almost a public private partnership. Almost like the founding fathers knew what they were doing when they talked about the letter of Mark and reprisal. Lots of ways to go after those seven families, the cartel families that are enabling this criminality is to first go after their money. Go after their money that's been laundered into legitimate businesses and freeze that and start to squeeze like an octopus. And you will get them to comply without even having to kill a whole lot of people. But if you squeeze their money hard, it will unequivocally get their attention.

Stephen K. Bannon (20:50)

Okay, we're using that strategy. Let's shift now to Tehran because that's a strategy we've advocated in President Trump, economic warfare. Scott Besant, you're squeezing the mullahs. You got more sanctions on them. We haven't interdicted the oil. Going out straight to Hormuz to China, which is their big payday right now. There's talk about a second carrier battle group heading over there. Bibi's there today to argue two things. Number one, the negotiations we're having right now is too narrow, cast just on their nuclear capability. You've got to broaden it out to really work through regime change. And if that doesn't work, if you can't get there, you have to go in and strike. And by the way, from, from Mark Levin to Senator Graham to Ted Cruz, I mean, there's a firestorm up on Capitol Hill supporting that. Bibi's going to be in the Oval office in about 30 minutes. 35 minutes to not open to the press right now but to make this case to the President. What would be your advice? Where are we? Do a sit rep. Where are we and what is your advice to the President?

Eric Prince (21:48)

No. No and no is a complete answer. Ultimately Iran is not the problem in the United States. It would be an unnecessary war. I'm all in favor of the Iranian people having their freedom. They have to sort this out on their own. If people want to give them the tools to go after the mullahs, fine. But it does not require US air power. And in no time in history ever has air power alone changed the regime. None with the exception we've got compliance when we drop two nukes into Japan that at least made them stop. But otherwise air power alone is not going to move the needle here.

Stephen K. Bannon (22:32)

Yeah, yeah, we firebombed, we fire bombed Tokyo and Osaka for six months worse than we firebombed Dresden. And they weren't prepared to surrender till the second nuke and that's because they had a threat of A what a 4 million man invasion of an American army and Marine Corps with America taking a million casualties. So you're right on air power. So what would be your advice to the president States? I know he looks to you. This is why when they had situate this problem in sub Saharan Africa or Haiti, you're a guy that they talk to in Mexico, Venezuela, you can see your handprints over everywhere of your thinking and ideas. So what you're thinking in Tehran because dude, when they send they got so many assets in there now it's pretty amazing. I think it's a bigger buildup except for ground troops than even the Gulf War. When you talk about air power and naval power and they're sending another carrier strike group, a rumor to send it over now. So what is your recommendation to the President?

Eric Prince (23:31)

The problem is air power alone is not going to do this. You're not going to kill the tens of thousands of IRGC Quds force Hezbollah personnel. Hell they've even, they've even contracted the Iranians have with Shia Afghan ex soldiers to try to beat up on Afghan to beat up on Iranian protesters. The problem is the regime will kill their way to success. And until you take away the inevitability of the regime and have enough force to displace them, the air power alone is not going to get that done. So again not our problem. Iran does not have an independence day because they don't get invaded. They've not been colonized. The terrain of Iran absolutely lends itself towards the defensive river, the, the mountain ring in the south, the Zagros mountains, the rough interior. This is not a place that air power alone is going to change the regime. Looks, if it works, I'll eat my hat. But I just don't think that's the way to go here. That is not America first. It is not our problem. If we want to help the Iranian people defeat them, their neighbors are. If the Iranians, if the Persian empire returns, even if you got rid of the mullahs, you have a lot of layers of governance there. And if Iran does return to a historic role, they've had a role of generally bullying their neighbors. So their behavior is not unhistorical. It's just that it's in the hands of some really crazy Mullers right now. But again, it is not the responsibility of the United States government and the taxpayers and American fighting personnel that are 8,000 miles away to solve that problem Hard.

Stephen K. Bannon (25:24)

No, Eric, before I let you go, we're in Texas and we're here through the primary. We've got one of the top pollsters. James Johnson is going to come on right after you. The New York Times put up a story last night how this anti Sharia law and this whole issue about an Islamic invasion of Texas has become the top political issue down here. I know in Northern Virginia you've talked about this for a while. These school choice have built all these schools. In the New York Times, they had a quote by somebody here and they said one of the mullahs or one of the imams said, well, look, we look at Texas as the new medina. How would you interpret that? We got about a minute and a half. How would you interpret that and how important it is to ban Sharia law in this country.

Eric Prince (26:12)

Ban Sharia law. If this again, Steve, if this doesn't get solved in the ballot box, this will get solved in a very kinetic way because I don't think Americans are going to accept being colonized by Islamic by an Islamic paradigm. That's happened before. The reconquista happened in Spain. It took a couple hundred years. It will not take a couple hundred years this time just to change it back.

Stephen K. Bannon (26:39)

Eric Prince, where do people go? I think you got a podcast, although I know you're traveling all over the world. How do people. Are you putting up any content? And if you are, where can people go to get it?

Eric Prince (26:50)

I'm on X at Real Eric D Prints. I've been kind of quiet because we're Busy solving some, some other countries problems and I'll be noisier about that in the coming months. But until then, we got work to do.

Stephen K. Bannon (27:05)

Well, it's good to know you've got many friends and allies that were quite concerned by the rumors that were coming out. But it's good to know that you're in one piece and have really thought through these issues. Appreciate you, sir, as always.

Eric Prince (27:19)

All right, Steve, take care.

Stephen K. Bannon (27:21)

If you look at problems that get fixed, eventually Erik Prince's ideas I think get manifested. Okay, we're gonna take a short commercial break. We've shifted the flag down here to Texas for one reason. There is a massive issue about Sharia law. There's also a massive issue about H1B visas. That is right. A permission structure was granted to talk about Sharia law. I think a permission structure is going to come very quick on H1B visas. A pollster. This is going to be, I think the most expensive Republican primary in history. It's a three way horse race. One of the top pollsters who put out a poll last week that blew people's heads up is going to join us. We're also going to go to the White House. We've got Brian GLENN and also Dr. Peter Navarro has got the argument for President Trump and the facts about manufacturing. So back to the White House, Capitol Hill, all of it. Stick around, you're in the war room.

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Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. James Johnson, about Texas is going to join us in a second. I want to go to live to the White House. We're going to be going live to the White House twice today. One Brian Glenn is is with us and Peter Navarro is going to join us in the second hour. Brian okay, so right now I get no honor guard. It's going to be close to the press. It'll be an Oval Office meeting, it looks like with Bibi in the president United States. I think this is his sixth trip or seventh trip. I say it's a wellness check right now. But maybe I'm too cynical. White House sources are telling you what about exactly what this meeting's about, sir?

Brian Glenn (30:45)

Yeah, there's three topics mainly on the table here. First of all would be the Board of Peace and kind of where we're at in regards to that structure. You know, President Trump heading up the Board of Peace. Second would be the second phase in the Gaza development and what countries are involved and what's the state of that right now. Then lastly the situation with Iran, particularly in not only the nuclear talks but also the long range ballistic missiles as well. And from what I understand, the Iranian president just said recently that any talk about that is excessive and they're not necessarily agreeing to a deal that eliminates that off the table. Now you said in the open. Traditionally we have been lined up out front of the West Wing. You've got the traditional color guard, but behind me is the Eisenhower building and between the Eisenhower building and the West Wing is where the prime minister will make his arrival. That happens in about 20, 25 minutes and we'll have that live as it happens.

Stephen K. Bannon (31:49)

You're breaking a big Scoop. So, so BB's traditionally come not through the South Lawn but through the west. And they've had the flags and we, you know, we set it up a half hour beforehand. We see the color guard come up, they pull up and this is, you know, every president essentially comes for an official bilat. Then I don't know, a couple of months ago we did the he came and he just came to the West Wing with no color guard came in and I Said it was like a, it was like a pizza delivery. Our hit with you, I think hit 5 or 6 million hits right on social media because so shocking, you're actually breaking big news. And I say this is not pulling up to that kind of West Wing thing where you walk right past the Roosevelt Room and oval. This is, if you're correct, he's coming in basically where the staff comes in, down where the awning is by the National Security Council and then goes a back route up to the Oval Office. Is that what you're telling me you think is going to happen today?

Brian Glenn (32:45)

Yes, sir, I can confirm that's what's going to happen today. I was told that by a trumpet official. So all the activity you see, and if we could flip the camera around, which we won't, it's where the Israeli foreign press is set up. They can stay there because guess what, he's not coming through here. He's coming up behind us for the most part. Steve, that is out of camera sight for the most part. So I think these camera folks will probably shift over here to where I'm at in order to. You're not going to be able to see his arrival, but you'll see the black cars coming behind me. But you're not going to see him get out and meet the president. That's not going to happen.

Stephen K. Bannon (33:19)

Audience, you see that? If you go, and we go, let's go full screen onto Brian McKinnon. That is the Executive Office Building. That's they call the Eisenhower. That is on the White House compound. In fact, the vast majority of the staff that we talk about work over there. In fact, Dr. Devara has his staff. That's where the majority and they walk back and forth with a pass. Only a certain pass gets you in. Now, the only time I remember a major head of state coming through that working pass is when I believe in the Obama administration. I think it was when the Dalai Lama showed up and Obama and those guys did not want to upset the Chinese Communist Party. They slipped the Dalai Lama in through the side door. But that is pretty extraordinary, sir, is it not?

Brian Glenn (34:01)

It is. Joan, if you could move that light, I'm going to whip the camera around. I want to show our viewers exactly what you're talking about, Steve, and I appreciate you bringing that up. Let's whip this around and I'll show you right now there is not, we don't have a Marine outside of the the West Wing here, which indicates President Trump is not in the Oval Office. Now let's whip the Camera back around here. Here's the massive amount of of foreign press. I would say 90% of the folks over there or foreign press. And of course if you whip the camera back around here a little bit more, there is Pebble Beach. There is no color guard. There is no official greening for the Prime Minister. Now I will say this Steve, the J6, I call it the January 6th style fencing that is up around this area. So the security protocols are in place. But if you're looking for a welcoming flag, Steve, it's not here. He'll be entering the building behind me.

Stephen K. Bannon (34:52)

Behind you. But I got from the side into the White House right there below it. But I got to tell you I'm sure they're going to negotiate. If they've got the international media right there in the Israeli media, there's no way they want to come through that very side door. You watch. I'm sure there's some intense negotiation and if I will take the over that it won't. He won't arrive at 11 o' clock that, that I'll take the over right now where I'm sure there's some negotiation because at least he's one of going to show up like he did last time with the international media but with no official greeting. But at least it's not through the side door. Correct?

Brian Glenn (35:25)

Yeah, I would agree with you and I have been told that you know it is closed as of right now. But you know how President Trump is if whatever the outcome of that meeting with, with the prime minister, if he feels like there is some messaging that came out of that meeting that he wants to get in front of these foreign media and American outlets, they're open it up. So stay tun that could, we could break in with some live coverage in there.

Stephen K. Bannon (35:49)

Yeah, yeah, we'll, we'll take that. By the way, big news will be if there's not a strike, if there looks like there's going to be a strike or the second carry battle groups going people better be ready because I've never seen more hardware into a region at all. No updates far before before I let you go. No updates so far on the interdiction of the Mexican the militarized drones sent up by supposedly the cartels into violated American airspace down in El Paso, sir.

Brian Glenn (36:16)

No sir, I have not gotten any official word from the White House. I did have a colleague share a message that did confirm that they did shoot down Mexican cartel drones in that area. And I was telling a colleague earlier if we can strike boats off the coast of Venezuela to have drugs. So why not shoot those drones out of the air as well, especially in U. S. Airspace. They were able to get into US.

Stephen K. Bannon (36:41)

Airspace, which is very that is a violation of our sovereignty. Brian Glenn, Social media We'll come back correct usually anything to break with bb we'll come right back to you. What do you get? Where do people go get you?

Brian Glenn (36:52)

Yes, sir. Thanks, Steve. You can follow me at Brian Glenn TV across the board at Brian on Truth Social. We'll have it here for you live as it develops. Steve, thank you.

Stephen K. Bannon (37:01)

Okay, we're streaming. We're streaming Pam Bondi, she's going to get lit up today. Jamie Raskin's already lightning tour. So we're going to go back to that as we can get clips we're streaming on our other side so you can watch the whole thing in its entirety. James Johnson joins us. James, first off, talk to me because, you know, we've known you for a long time. The worm's known you for a long time. Many of the people we're close to know that you're one of the top, smartest pollsters around. You put out a poll last week in this Texas race and it really upended the race and kind of caused a lot of consternation, particularly among the Cornyn camp. And you were immediately accused of foreign interference into an American election. Talk to me first about your company, who you are and was that poll foreign interference in a Senate election in the great state of Texas?

James Johnson (37:55)

Well, Steve, we've got a ridiculous moment now where I start speaking and everybody hears my British accent. But I am. My company, JL Partners is not a British company. We are an American company registered in Virginia. I'm a permanent resident here. The accent is usually a helpful thing, Steve, but it's not on this occasion. Look, we did not we put out this poll last week. We are not affiliated with any campaign, any outside group. I've never spoken to any of these campaigns or affiliated groups from them, let alone being paid by them. But we put it out there as a poll that we self funded to try and shine the truth on this race because there are loads of these polls sponsored by various camp campaigns or or packs and we wanted to get at the truth and we found that Ken Paxton, the is the sort of leading conservative candidate. He's ahead by one point and then behind him, tied for second place is Wesley Hunt and John Cornyn. So we're basically saying, you know, as pollsters say, it's all within the margin of error and it's Effectively a three, a three way tie.

Stephen K. Bannon (39:01)

This is one of the most important Republican primaries in the history of this country and it may end up being the one that's the most money spent. I think the shock was, and correct me if we're wrong, I don't want to disperse, guys, but I think the Corning camp was saying that this was a Wesley Hunt. This was Wesley Hunt trying to show he's competitive and that Cornyn can't. Is not going to finish in a runoff. Because right now the law in Texas is you have to get 50% of the vote plus one, and if you don't, you go to another massive runoff. Everybody. I think right now the consensus is it'd be very difficult for any of the candidates, including Paxton, to get to 50% plus one vote. So we're going to go to a runoff. And there's in Capitol Hill, they're absolutely apoplectic in the Senate Leadership Fund that Cornyn could finish third. I mean, what, what shocked people about your poll was how well Hunt was doing vis a vis Corny. Because, Cornyn, since we moved the show to Texas a couple of weeks ago, we curate not just mfc, we curate the local news. I've never seen. The gross tonnage of corn and ads is unbelievable. And the President has not endorsed here. But if you watch these corn and ads, you literally think he's sleeping in the Lincoln Bedroom in the White House. It's so close. He's walking on the border. He's with President Trump. He gives the impression he's Trump's candidate, but it's just their ad after ad after ad over Super Bowl Sunday, all of it. What are your thoughts about this race?

James Johnson (40:25)

Yeah, look, the amount of money poured in is obviously huge. It is the big primary race of this, of this cycle, of this year. I think that if Wesley Hunt wasn't in this race, you know, John Cornyn would be in a much better position. But clearly this new sort of person has come through and has, you know, potentially will push him into third. And as you say, that would be a massive turn up for the books. Look, I think that, I think that what we've seen in the last couple of days in that Senate race is actually both campaigns start to now point their guns at Wesley Hunt because he's sort of so close to pushing Corning off that second space spot, if he hasn't already. So I think that speaks volumes. These guys are seeing him as a serious threat. Action speaks louder than words on these things. And I think, you know, he has come through the middle of this race. He has the highest favorability ratings of anyone we polled, partly because he's less of a known quantity. And people, I think, are looking for an alternative to vote for and they feel that he could be that person. Plenty of time to run. And obviously whoever gets through has to win that runoff, too. But let me just quickly talk about that, that those, those John Cornyn ads, because a huge number of people in the race have seen it. So we didn't just ask the top line numbers. We also asked people, have you seen, read or heard anything about the various candidates in the last two weeks? And 59% of Republican primary voters in Texas said that they have seen, read or heard something about John Cornyn. Now, on the one hand, you think that's great for the campaign, that they've got their view across the ad. Money's working. People are seeing the ads. However, when we break that down as to whether people feel better or worse, the effect of these ads is actually completely net neutral. The same number of people who say they've got a more favorable response as a result of the ads is the same as the number who say they have a less favorable view. And that to me, is suggesting that some of this messaging about the closeness to Trump is perhaps backfiring or maybe even some voters are not buying it.

Stephen K. Bannon (42:25)

Is that pretty, is that pretty unheard of?

James Johnson (42:28)

It's pretty unusual. It's pretty unusual. I mean, I've got some more info on here and you know, when we have, here's what they say when we said, what did you see in the last two weeks about John Cornyn? And there are some positives in there. Some people say he stands with Trump. I saw an ad and it shows that he's securing the border. He seems to stand up for Texans. But then look on the negative side, the similar people having seen similar ads, but instead saying he, he, I don't trust him because of his votes in the past. He does not have conservative values and does not have my support the way he votes. This is real quotes from real voters. He said he was a Trump Republican, but I see him as a rhino. And at the end here, something you've been talking about a lot, Steve, is he is too close with Islam, which is also clearly having an impact on views of him in this race.

Stephen K. Bannon (43:18)

Can you hang on for a second? I want to hold you through the break because this race is so important. What's happening in Texas is so important. What James talked about, the New York Times had a big story last Night. Guess what? About how a new issue down here is the rise of Islam and banning Sharia law. We've given a permission structure for people to talk about it and they are talking about it. Of course, the New York Times calls it a conspiracy theory. Naturally, we're gonna take a short commercial break. Home title lock hometitle lock.com promo code. Steve, you get access for 14 days, two weeks to the one million dollar triple lock protection. You find out how this protects you against AI cyber attacks, rogue lawyers, rogue accountants, rogue relatives. Check it out. Short commercial break.

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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay, we are going to get some clips on what's happening over in the house Judiciary. It's, let's say this, a little intense. Pam Bondi's over. You can watch it on our streaming alternative. If you want to get the full get bathe in it. BB's supposedly shown up in a few minutes by side entrance. I think that's pretty symbolic. Pretty tough negotiations gonna go on today. Kurt Mills is gonna join us. A lot of new information about this. James Johnson, JL Partners, an American company. And just forget the awfully, awfully British accent. He's an American citizen. James, first of all, give me your ideas of the cause. I think this another Shocker. To people that are not in Texas, it looks like Crockett's, they held up the Christian, the evangelical left wing Christian as literally the second coming that was gonna save the Democratic Party. But to me, his campaign being down in Texas is not getting traction. It's Crockett's. Everywhere is Crockett, Jasmine Crockett, do you believe gonna win the Democratic primary here to run against whoever Hunt Paxton or Cornyn, Sir.

James Johnson (46:35)

Yeah, I think she's the favorite. And again, in the unbiased polls in this race, you know, she's, she's leading sometimes by as much as eight or nine points, sometimes by a bit more narrowly. When you look into the cross tabs, when you look into the data underneath that, it's because of her strength with black voters and Democratic primary voters. African American Democrat primary voters do come out and vote at these primaries and they're backing her very heavily. So look, I think we really could be in a scenario where she's the candidate that's obviously great news for Republicans almost regardless of who the Republican candidate is, because, you know, she's probably going to be pretty easy for the Republicans to paint as being on the more left extreme side of the Democratic Party, isn't she?

Stephen K. Bannon (47:17)

Isn't she a. I mean, this is about the rise of the dsa, the Working Family Party. Working Family Party very strong in the Houston area. DSA, I'm telling you that Senate District 9, the DSA, ability to get in and do grassroots and people should not dismiss this important. But her policies, I mean, she's from the more radical, not just progressive, more radical branch of the Darren Crowd Party. Is this just name recognition or are people in the Democratic Party really siding with her about these policies?

James Johnson (47:52)

Look, I think they increasingly are. I think there is a big chunk of the Democratic Party who especially the longer they've been out of power. And I think after the Trump election, what I've seen when I've been interviewing Democratic voters in focus groups and in interviews is that they're saying we need more of a fighter. We need somebody to take on Trump and take on the Republicans. And what that often means is somebody on the more liberal, progressive, socialist side. We saw that happen in New York, obviously, in that primary with Mamdani. I think we could see it happen with Crockett. The difference is Texas ain't New York. And although she might win the primary, I can't see a world in which she wins statewide.

Stephen K. Bannon (48:32)

Let's go back. I want to go back. The New York Times broke last night this story about coming out of nowhere that people miss was this issue about Sharia law. And really what I think people are viewing as an Islamic invasion of Texas, particularly in the Houston area and especially in North Texas in the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex. That has kind of shocked people. And people as we've started the show, we're in Texas as one of our fourth hour during the week and on Saturday or the second hour on Saturday, we tell people the example we always use is London and New York City and people get it. We gave a permission structure, I think, for people to talk about this. This conference we had with Geert Vilders, we brought Geert Vilders over here for a reason. That guy has fought this for 20 years. He saw it happening. The elites didn't do anything. Overwhelmed his countries, overwhelmed London, overwhelmed Paris. We also had Glenn Beck, the great Glenn Beck. It's been hammering, been banging the drum on this for 20 years. Your thoughts about this? The New York Times has now officially said, okay, this is the thing, although it's a conspiracy theory of the far right wing nuts, your assessment about this issue and will it be an important issue in this race?

James Johnson (49:44)

I think it could be important in the primary. I think, you know the ads determine this race, right? You know the amount of spend on from Cornyn, the amount of spend from Paxton and the increasing amount of spend from Hunt, although it'd be interesting to see whether he can pull enough resources together. Look, as I mentioned earlier, Steve, when you ask people what are their hesitations about John Cornyn of the Republican primary voters, this is something that's coming through. People say now most prominent in concern is is he a rhino, is he pro Trump enough? But also in there is the words Islamic, is the word Islam? Clearly some of these attacks are getting through and landing linking Cornyn to the issue you mentioned. So do I think it's going to be the number one issue? Probably not. But do I think it's important in the primary race? I think so. And it may explain why amongst MAGA Republicans, when you look at how they're going to vote, because we asked this in our poll, we asked people, do you consider yourself a MAGA Republican or do you consider yourself a more traditional moderate Republican? And amongst those sort of self defined MAGA voters, ken Paxton has 33%, Wesley Hunt has 29%, and John Cornyn is right down on 14%. So you know, in terms of where the future of MAGA is, in terms of what, what MAGA means Now today in 2026, it's Paxton and Hunt that are leading that charge in Texas with Corning quite far behind.

Stephen K. Bannon (51:13)

James, I want people to follow you because you're putting out great information about this race all the time. You're very focused on this because you know the importance of this primary race, not just for the country, but also for the MAGA movement, the Republican Party in the world. Where do people go to get you, sir?

James Johnson (51:29)

So they can go on x. It's James Johnson 252 and you can also pick up JL underscore partners for the company account.

Stephen K. Bannon (51:38)

That would be an American company, right? JL Partners.

James Johnson (51:41)

That would be an American company. Don't believe the accent.

Stephen K. Bannon (51:46)

Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Look forward to having you back.

James Johnson (51:49)

Thank you.

Stephen K. Bannon (51:50)

I might add, I might add that John Cornyn has put out a, an ad, a 30 second ad that says that he has been fighting Sharia law and he's been fighting the Muslim Brotherhood and he's been fighting kick care for his entire career. So that's how much this has elicited interest in this, in this topic that John Cornyn's climbing on board. It's a dog fight. Of course. Ken Paxton is beloved member of the, of the grassroots here. The grassroots intensity in back of Ken Pax. And Ken Pax has not raised a ton of money. John Cornyn I think has raised, I don't know, 60, $70 million. Most of that was, will be spent in this primary. The, the, the amount of spending is beyond belief and it looks like it's going to be a runoff. So this has got a long way to go in Texas. We're going to take a short commercial break. Kurt Mills is with us to give a broader perspective of exactly what this means today in the, in the Oval with bb. We'll cover BB if the camera's allowed to be cut on. We're also going to go back to, to the hearing, try to get some clips from Pam Bondi. Dr. Peter Navarro has got a piece up the Washington Times today to rebut the Wall Street Journal's assertion that President Trump is not bringing manufacturing and manufacturing jobs back to the United States of America. Complete bald face misinterpretation of information. Natasha Owens takes us out with the boss. We're going to be back in a moment.

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