Episode 5144: WarRoom Special: The 500 Days Of Tina Peters

Summary

Bannon’s War Room - Episode 5144: WarRoom Special: The 500 Days of Tina Peters

Date: February 14, 2026
Host: Steve Bannon
Guests: Apollo (Tina Peters advocacy), Ken DeGraff (Colorado State Legislature), Peter Tickton (Attorney), John Case (Attorney), Unknown Prison Advocates

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Overview:

This episode marks a special War Room broadcast focusing on “The 500 Days Of Tina Peters”, the former Mesa County Clerk sentenced to nearly nine years for a data breach related to the 2020 election. The show frames Peters as a political prisoner, spotlights alleged abuses and harsh conditions she faces in Colorado’s high-security women’s prison, and details ongoing efforts by her legal and political advocates to secure her release. The hosts and guests argue the severity of her treatment is unprecedented and politically motivated, connecting it to broader claims of election integrity and civil rights violations. The episode is deeply sympathetic to Peters, calling for her release and increased public attention.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Background and Sentencing of Tina Peters

• [00:05] Steve Bannon: Recaps that Tina Peters, a 72-year-old Gold Star mother, was sentenced to nine years for her role in a data breach inspired by election fraud claims.
• Allegations: Bannon and guests claim Peters is being unfairly criminalized for her efforts to “preserve election records” (a reference to making unauthorized system images of election equipment).
• Political Framing: The episode consistently refers to Peters as a “political prisoner,” suggesting that her conviction and treatment are punishment for challenging official election results.

Life Inside Prison and Alleged Abuse

• Physical Abuse:
  • [00:54] Apollo and advocates allege Peters has suffered multiple assaults by violent inmates, most recently by a younger inmate serving time for stabbing, who was then paroled soon after the incident.
  • [01:17] Unknown Prison Advocate: “This is effectively a death penalty for Tina Peters because she dared to question election results.”
  • [10:28] Steve Bannon/Apollo: The state is accused of punitive solitary confinement (special housing unit) for Peters, while her attacker received parole.
• Neglect & Health Issues:
  • [05:09] Apollo: Details harsh conditions: denial of transfer to safer facilities, denial of medical care, forced to sleep on a thin mattress, unaddressed injuries, and being ignored by prison staff.
• Psychological Torment:
  • [14:35] “Civil Rights Division of DOJ has actually been sent a large batch of information ... They have problems with the heating. She's kept in exceptionally hot temperatures ... she's reprimanded for trying to keep warm ... as a lung cancer survivor, she’s been denied ... scans until the media kicked in.”
• Targeted Isolation:
  • [30:36] “They're trying to break Tina Peters. They're trying to break her psychologically…”

Legal, Civil Rights, and Political Arguments

• Unprecedented Sentencing:
  • [33:08] John Case: “They really tripled the penalty and made sure they got her. How can this happen in Colorado? ... Here's what [the judge] said: ... ‘the position she held ... has provided her the pulpit from which she can preach these lies. The undermining of our democratic process ... And prison is ... where we send people who are a danger to all of us ... by the pen ... or the word.’”
  • [36:25] Case notes her near-nine-year sentence is tantamount to a death sentence for someone of Peters’ age and health.
• Denial of Due Process:
  • [05:09] Apollo: “She has not been able to bond out on appeal ... kept in prison with violent offenders ... despite meeting all state criteria for bond on appeal, despite being a first-time nonviolent offender who has an excellent chance of her charges being reversed…”
• Whistleblower Claim:
  • [23:33] Ken DeGraff: “The entire aspect of her being a whistleblower and backing up those files ... whistleblower doesn’t have to be correct ... we’re talking about election integrity which actually does fall under the civil rights rule ... the hypocrisy of the Democrats for unanimously wanting to keep a 70-year-old nonviolent alleged offender ... in horrific conditions ... for protecting the Civil Rights act.”
• Pardon by President Trump:
  • [49:46] Apollo: Argues that despite a presidential pardon (by Trump), Colorado authorities and the state judiciary have continued to hold Peters.
  • [37:45] Peter Tickton: “The Court of Appeals has to basically rule on [the pardon]. ... We expect they'll probably go along with the flow of saying that it doesn’t apply to state charges. ... This issue’ll get resolved in the Supreme Court…”

Political and Civil Rights Advocacy

• Comparison to POW Conditions:
  • [22:06] Steve Bannon/Ken DeGraff: “You had a POW buddy that thought that Tina Peters situation was equivalent to the prisoners of war during Vietnam.”
  • [30:36] Apollo: “The facility is completely infested with mold ... She's had a cough ... for at least nine months now ... She’s lost a considerable amount of weight ... The constant fear of violence and people threatening her ... the throwing her in solitary ... kept 24,7 under fluorescent lights, not allowed to go outside one to two hours a day ... Cut off from all phones and contact with the outside.”
• Use as a Deterrent:
  • [38:16] Peter Tickton: “She is there to warn all the other clerks ... Don’t you dare make a copy ... because if you do, you’re going to get what Tina Peters is getting. ... And believe me, it’s working. It’s scaring the other clerks and the supervisors of elections throughout the United States.”
• Continuous Legal Appeals:
  • [45:28] John Case: “We filed a reply in our effort to have Tina released on bond while the court is deciding her appeal. This is the fourth application we have made for bond pending appeal and we've never had a ruling.”
  • [46:41] John Case: Repeatedly directs listeners to “tinapeters.us” for updates/support.

Calls to Action and Warnings

• [49:46] Apollo: “If they can do this to Tina Peters, they can do this to every single one of you. The precedent that has stood ... is that you can be imprisoned and denied bail for first time offenses for your political speech and treated like an absolute prisoner of war ... She is a prisoner of war. And everyone needs to remember, this came down from DOJ. ... Tina Peters is the symbol ... if you can do your job and be thrown in prison and turned into a villain, your children can be as well.”
• [52:22] Multiple reminders to visit tinapeters.us for legal defense fund, show links, and case updates.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Steve Bannon [00:05]:
  “Former Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters was sentenced to nine years behind bars yesterday for a data breach scheme inspired by Trump's false claims of voter fraud.”
• Unknown Prison Advocate [01:17]:
  “This is effectively a death penalty for Tina Peters because she dared to question election results.”
• Ken DeGraff [18:43]:
  “I think it’s pretty clear that Tina Peters is a political prisoner.”
• John Case [33:08]:
  “The judge sentenced her to eight years, nine months—because of words that she used to criticize the computer voting system.”
• Steve Bannon [36:02]:
  “In the Colorado women's prison system ... they essentially tried to give her a death sentence, did they not, sir?”
• Peter Tickton [38:16]:
  “The first reason is to shut her up ... The second ... she’s a scapegoat ... The third ... is as an example to all the other clerks ... Don’t you dare image the hard drive. ... It’s scaring the other clerks and supervisors of elections throughout the United States.”
• Apollo [49:46]:
  “If they can do this to Tina Peters, they can do this to every single one of you ... you can be imprisoned and denied bail for first time offenses for your political speech and treated like an absolute prisoner of war.”

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Segment Timeline

• 00:00–01:30: Episode opens with Peters’ sentencing and the political framing of her case.
• 01:30–05:00: Initial discussion of Peters’ imprisonment conditions, alleged abuses, legal irregularities.
• 05:00–12:00: Detailed account of prison life, health neglect, and targeted maltreatment (Apollo & advocates).
• 12:00–15:00: Threefold breakdown—physical, health, and psychological torment.
• 17:30–27:36: Ken DeGraff on official duplicity, legislature, and the political context in Colorado.
• 30:00–43:30: In-depth with attorneys (John Case, Peter Tickton) on judicial rationale, appeal process, pardon complications.
• 45:28–49:46: Final round of legal updates, calls to action, emotional appeals for public support.
• Throughout: Frequent calls to visit tinapeters.us and warnings of broader implications for civil rights.

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Tone, Language, and Memorable Moments

• The episode maintains an urgent, combative, and often emotional tone, frequently invoking war and POW analogies (“gulag,” “prisoner of war,” “political prisoner”).
• [37:12] John Case: “The harder they lean on Tina in prison, the stronger her spirit becomes. ... She is like the POWs in Vietnam. The harder they press on them, the stronger their spirit becomes.”
• [52:14] Apollo: “Tina Peters is the symbol that they made her out to be. ... If you can do your job and be thrown in prison and turned into a villain, your children can be as well. And that’s what Tina is most concerned about.”
• The panel expresses unwavering support for Peters and frames her situation as a warning to anyone in public service who might challenge official narratives.

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Resources for Listeners

• Legal and Advocacy Support: tinapeters.us (for show links, legal defense fund, updates)
• Ken DeGraff on X: @ColoradoRepKDeGraff

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Conclusion

This War Room special purports to expose the “Kafkaesque” plight of Tina Peters, claiming her case is not just a personal injustice but a symbol of how political dissent is being targeted in America. Through emotional testimony from allies, legal arguments, and continual calls to action, the episode serves as a rallying cry for listeners to support Peters and resist what it characterizes as the weaponization of the justice system against political opponents.

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For further information, legal defense donations, or to follow the case:
Visit tinapeters.us

Transcript

[John Case]

In the court.

[Steve Bannon]

Former Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters was sentenced to nine years behind bars yesterday for a data breach scheme inspired by Trump's false claims of voter fraud.

[Apollo]

It hurts.

[Unknown Prison Advocate]

Let's go and see.

[Steve Bannon]

You got it. You are no hero.

[Unknown Prison Advocate]

You abused your position and you're a charlatan. The idea that you won't respect elections if you lose is antithetical to a democratic republic.

[Steve Bannon]

Earlier this week, a federal judge ruled.

[Unknown Prison Advocate]

Listen to this.

[Ken DeGraff]

That Tina Peters, a 72 year old.

[Unknown Prison Advocate]

Gold star mother, must stay in prison.

[Ken DeGraff]

While she appeals her case.

[Unknown Prison Advocate]

And since that ruling, inside that prison.

[Ken DeGraff]

Tina Peters has been attacked. And I don't mean attacked just in one way, but in multiple ways. Multiple times.

[Steve Bannon]

Tina Peters been assaulted in prison and.

[Apollo]

Was she charged with a felony for getting assaulted?

[Peter Tickton]

Sir, a 20 year old inmate came in behind her and started to attack her from behind. The part where she was defending herself was seen. So they're basically charging her. They put her in the hole for an undetermined amount of time.

[Unknown Prison Advocate]

It's sickening what they're doing to her. This is effectively a death penalty for Tina Peters because she dared to question election results.

[Steve Bannon]

Is there no answer here?

[Peter Tickton]

Tina Peters is a witness to the.

[Unknown Prison Advocate]

2020 theft of an election.

[John Case]

Tina was performing a federal duty when she preserved election records before the Secretary.

[Unknown Prison Advocate]

Of state destroyed them 100%. She's a political prisoner.

[Steve Bannon]

They're holding her hostage. What in the hell are we doing.

[Apollo]

To get the girl out?

[Steve Bannon]

They should let her go. Let her out. It is Saturday, the 14th of February in the year of our Lord 2026. It's St. Valentine's Day. And it is the 499th day of the incarceration of a Gold star mother. A 72 year old gold star mother. And tomorrow is the 500th day. I know that's unbelievable to hear, but that's the reality. She is a political prisoner. I think she's the most distinct political prisoner we've ever had here in the history of this country. She's also pardoned by the President of the United States, and yet she continues to sit and rot in what is the highest security prison they have for women in the state of Colorado. We're going to have a number of folks on here today to walk through exactly what's going on and what we have to resolve to get this done. President Trump has pardoned her. I know he is incredibly frustrated and we may have to take a different path and we got to think that through today. It is just unacceptable in the United States of America, particularly here's. Why it's so unacceptable now. And it's ironic it's happening on the 499th day and the 500th day of Tina Peters incarceration. Because the FBI and DNI Director of National Intelligence sees the ballots and all the tapes from the machines and the tabulators in Georgia. And we're going to court with the two heaviest, besides Mark Elias, the other two heaviest lawyers they can bring in Abbey Lowell and Norm Ison to take that evidence. Back in Georgia we got them and they know we got them. And in Arizona we had the Department of Homeland Security. You heard John Solomon at the start of the first hour. What did John Solomon say? You're going to have revelations of foreign interference in these elections. And Kristi Noem said so much of it yesterday in Maricopa County. Something is going to happen in Maricopa County. Just stand by. And this is what Tina Peters, this was her cause just to have a free and fair election. And what does she get from that? The most honored people in our country, gold star mothers whose children have died in defense of our country, our republic. She rots in a state prison. Let me bring on first.

[Apollo]

I want to go through, I think.

[Steve Bannon]

It'S Solzhen Knitson wrote a book with one day in the Life of Ivan. I think I botched the name. But it was a very powerful book about one day and a guy's life in the Gulag and how unfairly been put there. That book changed the way people perceived the Soviet Union at the time and the communists in Russia because how brutal it was Apollo. You've stepped in and been the co host for the Tina Peters Show. I think she was incarcerated. You and your team know Tina better than anybody. I want this audience to understand.

[Apollo]

The.

[Steve Bannon]

Daily brutality of being in a high security woman's prison in the state of Colorado. Can you walk us through your knowledge of Tina's day, sir?

[Unknown Prison Advocate]

Sure. Well, I mean it's a regular occurrence and I'll just remind everyone it's been 500 days that she's been in prison, which is obscene, denied bond on appeal. But she has also been dealing with this for several more years before she was ever locked up regarding the lawfare and the weaponization of government. And she was a target the moment she was elected clerk in 2018. But Tina Peters doesn't quit. So neither should any of you. Tina Peters, while she has been locked up now for well over a year, she is in unlike men's prisons where they have clear delineations of the violent Offenders and some of the lighter types of sentences. Tina Peters is in there with people who are convicted and have been in prison for many violent offenses. They're repeat offenders. Most recently, the incident that she was assaulted in Several weeks ago, she was assaulted by a 29 year old who has been in prison for. For stabbing her significant other and trying to kill him. Her plea deal was in fact six years, three and a half years less than Tina's sentence. So that is the kind of people that she's in there with. These people have anger issues. Many of them have drug problems. Tina's heart actually goes out to many of them. But she's surrounded by people she does not. Blonde with. The state of Colorado denied a transfer request that would have cost them nothing to put her in a safe location. And it's been now over a year and 15. It's been 15 months now that Judge Barrett's statements sentencing Tina to all these sentences consecutively based on her first amendment speech and in his own words, saying that she's more dangerous to the public than violent offenders. That has stood this long. And she has not been able to bond out on appeal this entire time. And he has been, you know, he has been vindicated in his own statements. Because Tina has been kept in prison with these violent offenders for this entire time. She's been assaulted repeatedly. She has been marked specifically within the CDOC system as a minimum security, high profile inmate. She has applied to the honor pod several times and been denied, citing write ups that she has received. However, la Vista and CDOC's own records. His name is Mr. Ayers. He actually responded to a request for any of those write ups. He said none exist. There are no write ups under Tina Peters case file. So they are purposely keeping Tina Peters in a dangerous environment. They are denying her access to a housing situation that would keep her safe. And the place is an absolute nightmare. The best that they've been able to do is throw her in solitary for weeks at a time where she's kept awake 247 under fluorescent lighting. She has been sleeping on an inch thick mattress. And it wasn't until just a few months ago, after the media really decided to put pressure on officials in Colorado and what was going on inside of the Colorado Department of Corrections, including with the civil rights division looking at some of the facilities and what was going on, that they decided they could find a 2 inch mattress for Tina to sleep on. Despite ignoring her medical requests, despite never allowing her to see a doctor blowing off everything in this most recent assault on her Steve, there were officials in La Vista that refused to even acknowledge that she was injured. She was showing them her bruises from the event because it was being spun against her as if she were the aggressor. And they did nothing. They didn't refer her to medical for an evaluation. They refused to document it. They walked away and looked the other way. So, I mean, this is the everyday situation that Tina Peters has been facing. There are other inmates in there who get written up and have their iPads or their tablets taken away simply because they yell free Tina Peters across the yard or they show some sign of solidarity, recognizing the ordeal that she has been going through. It's obscene what she's dealing with on a daily basis. Tina Peters does not belong there. And the travesty of justice that has allowed her to stay there despite meeting all state criteria for bond on appeal, despite being a first time nonviolent offender who has an excellent chance of her charges being reversed and her sentence being overturned on appeal, including this most recent hearing that raised a plethora of extremely concerning issues that should together constitute nothing but a mistrial. Tina Peters needs to go free. She's living in absolute hell. She is a political prisoner and she doesn't belong with these people. She is in danger every single day that she is in there. She continues to get threats in the mail. She complains about it to the prison. Threats that I've seen many of them. They threaten her with murder, with violence, with rape. They wish death upon her. And these recent incidents have led to kind of a precedent to be set within the facility where you can, you know, you can go after Tina Peters and nothing will really happen to you. Possible that this woman just got granted parole after this incident with Tina. If this were anyone else, she would have been kicked back a year.

[Steve Bannon]

I want to, I want to go to this. There's this fight that broke out that she started. Talk to me about what happened. The person that initiated this has been paroled since then, correct? Normally you would have some delay on that for doing it. Talk about that, that she actually, Tina Peters got put in the hole, the special housing unit, which is solitary confinement and that's there to break you psychologically. But the other woman got paroled, correct?

[Unknown Prison Advocate]

Correct, yes. After this incident. This is the 29 year old who was in there for stabbing someone and she was given a six year sentence. After this incident, no follow up was done, no real investigation was conducted. The media was given the footage within 12 hours of us learning about this, despite apparently the CDOC having to go through the entire process of getting the footage, scrubbing it and getting consent from the inmates who were on camera to release it to the media. Her attorneys didn't get it for weeks afterwards. This inmate was now granted parole. Just, just, I believe in the last week.

[Apollo]

Three things.

[Steve Bannon]

I got a couple minutes. Obviously you're going to be with me for the hour. But you have the, the threat of violence, right? Constantly. You have the health issues because this place is, is, is, is a hellhole. And then you have the psychological torment to try to break her. A 72 year old woman, gold star mother, try to break her psychologically. Take all three of those. We won't get to all of them in this thing, but I'm gonna hold you over. And of course Ken DeGroff is gonna join us from the Colorado State Legislature to talk. But talk to me about those three. Those are the three things they're trying to torment her with every day. Physical violence, bad conditions and bad health. Not taking care of her health. And psychologically.

[Peter Tickton]

Apollo.

[Unknown Prison Advocate]

Well, physical violence. She has had hands put on her several times. This is I believe the fifth time that at least I'm aware of. So this most recent incident was, was used to spin it against Tina. But the woman struck Tina for no reason that she can really ascertain. She has an anger issue and was probably turned against her because of some of the people in the facility. She has had another incident where a teacher, someone who was teaching in the facility on the prison staff, was talking about Tina Peter's case and how ridiculous it was and how she should tell the media not to talk about what's going on within La Vista that caused an altercation. And another woman who was in that same incident in the hallway with that teacher who were both barking at Tina after she asked them not to speak about her case. She's now going and bragging that she was able to get away with hitting Tina Peters when she was in Pod 3. And so they're emboldening other inmates and sending a message that you can do whatever you want. And if it's Tina Peters, they'll take away your privileges if you say free her, if you show support. And apparently you'll get granted parole just a few weeks after you assault her despite being a violent offender. So you have that. The environmental conditions are absolutely awful. Civil Rights Division of DOJ has actually been sent a large batch of information that details reports from other inmates as well as Tina. They have problems with the heating. She's kept in exceptionally hot temperatures reaching sometimes 90 degrees. At other times, the H Vac is just an absolute mess. And so they're freezing. Tina has been, you know, given Crohn's and reprimanded for trying to keep warm. As an elderly woman with health issues, she was reprimanded for trying to wear a scarf because it was too cold and she was afraid of getting sick. She has lung issues. As a lung cancer survivor, she's been denied the ability to get scans until the media kicked in. So the first time she was allowed to get, I believe any proper medical evaluation was just within the last month. And it was only because of the amount of pressure on the facility. I don't even think we have results on that yet. And she still needs more follow up. And Apollo.

[Peter Tickton]

Yes.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Ken DeGraff]

All of the duplicity. Duplicity. Well and the duplicity that's in it. All of the fraud whether it's intentional or unintentional. We've lost hundreds of millions of dollars for things like the wheelchair scheme scam. We have not disassembled that program to make sure that we are spending the citizens money wisely. And when we're talking about spending money wisely I have a hard time thinking that the Department of Corrections needs more money when the governor can keep a political prisoner. 70 years old, not in for any sort of violent crime, recently assaulted and rumor has it that this person who recently assaulted decades younger has been offered parole for being the goon squad.

[Apollo]

Of.

[Ken DeGraff]

The governor, the secretary and the ag.

[Apollo]

And so I have a hard time.

[Ken DeGraff]

Saying that this department needs money.

[Steve Bannon]

Ken Degraph, you heard him right there. He joins us now. Sir, is, is Tina Peters a political prisoner of the political apparatus of the great state of Colorado?

[Ken DeGraff]

Sir, the, the former great state of Colorado. Yes. I think it's pretty clear that Tina Peters is a, is a political prisoner. 70 years old, non violent crime, first time alleged offender for essentially circumventing the rules that Jenna has imposed in order to stop anybody from creating any backup copies. And of course anything that Tina did is pales in comparison to what Jenna did with publishing hundreds of active bios passwords which the AG's team considered and called the keys to the kingdom. The keys that would give those give the machines away essentially to nefarious actors. So I think it's pretty, pretty clear that Tina Peters is a political prisoner. Again non violent first time it's alleged offense it's in it is hopefully going to be turned into a, into a mistrial and then Just.

[Peter Tickton]

It'll.

[Ken DeGraff]

Just. Well, it'll.

[Apollo]

It'll.

[Ken DeGraff]

It's a phenomenal travesty of justice. But overall, yes, she's definitely a. A political prisoner. She could be at home at a lot less expense to the state. The state is more afraid of Tina Peters than they are most active criminals, most violent criminals. Violent criminals go right back on the streets. The Colorado legislature just vetoed or killed a bill to put harsher penalties on child rapists. But they are adamant that they want to keep Tina Peters in jail because they obviously fear what she has to say more than what the violent offenders will do to Coloradans or to the children.

[Steve Bannon]

Let's talk about that. You know, Trende Aragua, you didn't see the push with the Colorado authorities until President Trump got serious about it. They are. And even the governor, who is thinking of running for president and wanted to use this as a badge of honor, even when he's getting wobbly because he sees the conditions she's in, he sees the violence, the health issues, the psychological issues pressing down on her. But Jenna Griswold and the rest, and the judge, they have bonded together to say absolutely not. To them, she's a capital. This is a capital crime, and she's a capital criminal. Why is that, Ken?

[Ken DeGraff]

Well, I think it's. For them, it is a capital offense because it would cut off the head of the snake. If the information that Tina has is and understands, and the information is out there, it's not like she's keeping any secrets, but that information is allowed to get out, be published, put on trial. That's how you cut off the head of the snake. As to the conditions of Jenna Griswold, I had a friend who was a POW for five years in Vietnam. He considered the conditions comparable, if not worse to Vietnam. And when you see the grip holders, you understand why her son was a seal.

[Steve Bannon]

You had a POW buddy that thought that Tina Peters situation was equivalent to the prisoners of war during Vietnam.

[Unknown Prison Advocate]

No.

[Ken DeGraff]

Well, he did not know Tina Peters. He equated his time in the corrections facility to having been worse. He actually said worse than Vietnam. So sleeping on a concrete floor, just horrific conditions. Stockdale talked about them in his book as well, but, yeah, he said they were comparable. So when you look at 500 days in prison and you understand the grit of Tina Peters, you can understand where her son got it, that he became a Navy seal.

[Steve Bannon]

Let me ask you, are you getting any on the war room and the posse? That's where people were so grateful that Tina's team put this together. The 500 Days of Tina Peters in the Colorado Assembly. Are you getting support? I mean, we would have thought this would create a firestorm. You're kind of like Cato the Elder. He would finish every speech in Rome no matter what it was about. And he said, of course Carthage must be destroyed. It seems like you're the one always bringing up in your speeches about the Colorado Bureau of Prisons and how they're treating Tina Peters. Is that widely spread within the Republican Party there?

[Ken DeGraff]

I'm not, I'm not sure. I know many people feel the same way that I do. There are some on the Republicans on the GOP side, I should say not on the Republican side, but on the GOP side that consider that. Consider it to be a just trial. And I don't think that's the case at all. Not when the primary evidence for what she did was blocked, which was deemed inadmissible. So the entire aspect of her being a whistleblower and backing up those files because a whistleblower doesn't have to be correct in order to be protected as a whistleblower. And what we're talking about is the, is the election integrity which actually does fall under the civil rights rule. So it's. I did point out during the Martin Luther King and that day that we, that she was actively participating what is a civil rights led rule, the Civil Rights act and the. The hypocrisy of the Democrats for unanimously wanting to keep a. Keep a 70 year old non violent alleged offender. I won't say offender. She's alleged that they want to keep her in horrific conditions. So for protecting the Civil Rights act and being a whistleblower to its violation. So I think that's incredibly hypocritical. And anytime that I have the opportunity to point out the hypocrisy then, then I'm going to take it.

[Steve Bannon]

Ken, we got a couple minutes. What is your recommendation to the President? We're going to make sure he sees this, sees the clips. He's been adamant. In fact, every time we come back now, you'll hear his voice. It's how we ended the cold open. The President's pardoner, he's adamant that she should be let free. What is your recommendation in the Colorado Assembly? What should happen here? What is your recommendation the president to free Tina Peters?

[Ken DeGraff]

Well, I think whatever it takes to get her out of the gulag in which Jared Polis is keeping her. Jared Polis is keeping her at risk of her life intentionally. He has the ability for whatever excuses he's using, he has the ability to to to release her. Right now she's a whistleblower in in in a system that is used for federal elections. And I think they should use the whatever leverage they have on the on the federal election system to to pull her out as not only a key witness, but, you know, put her in whistleblower and have her as a protected witness under the whistleblower status. So the the Colorado the attorney general was very they were very crafty in their shaping of the case to make sure that they did not touch on the actual evidence. So again, her her the the crimes and they're all stacked back to back instead of being subsequent and as you can see by the release of or the alleged release of prisoner 193672, that she is that she is feared by the by the administration by the Colorado administration much more than a violent any violent offender.

[Steve Bannon]

KEN where do people go to get your speeches, where they go you're putting up stuff all the time in defense of Tina. Where do people go to get your content?

[Ken DeGraff]

Well, they can find me on X mostly at Colorado Rep. K. DeGraff and that's yep, that's me. So that's my that's my X page and that's where they can find the most of my updates. So we'll post them there and that will also take you to the that'll also get you to the YouTube channel where I where I store the the videos so that you can watch and then you can so that citizens of Colorado can learn how government is being done to them and not for them. Because we're going to we've just started passing probably what's going to be over 600 new pieces of legislation that are going to cost the citizens of Colorado hundreds of millions of dollars when we're starting from a deficit.

[Steve Bannon]

KEN Fight the good fight. You're a warrior. I know everybody associated with Tina Peters appreciates what you're doing, sir.

[Ken DeGraff]

So keep fighting, Appreciate Tina and appreciate what you're doing to help her. STEVE thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you. You heard Ken right there about Colorado and 600 pieces of legislation. This is what we're warning people in Texas. They want to turn Texas into the next Colorado. Colorado used to be one of the greatest states in this union, one of the most beautiful with great people, just incredible. And look at what's happened. Tina Peters, 500 days on the eve of her 500th day in a high security woman's prison, a hellhole. Short Commercial break Continue on Just a Moment.

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[Steve Bannon]

Let her out. Welcome back to 500th day of Tina Peters. I know many of our audience now. It's like Kafka esque. This is like a nightmare that makes no sense.

[Apollo]

Apollo.

[Steve Bannon]

I'm going to bring the lawyers on John Case and Peter Tickton right now. But I want you to finish the third element. It's the violence. Folks. Understand something. You're a 70, 72 year old woman and every day you're terrorized with violence. How would you think your life would be? And you're in a very unhealthy place and you've already had lung cancer. Incredibly unhealthy place. With no real access to your medicines in a place that's a harsh environment. They even says like a POW environment. But psychologically, Apollo. They're trying to break Tina Peters. They're trying to break her psychologically, are they not, sir?

[Unknown Prison Advocate]

Yeah, absolutely, Steve. I mean, you know, again, going back to day one, she has horrible accommodations. Mattress. Despite her medical conditions, they ignored her for over a year even to give her a proper place to sleep. The facility is completely infested with mold. It was only after DOJ decided to announce they were coming in that they started cleaning things up. It's still an absolute mess. She's had a cough and still has even when we talk to her now, every single day. That has not gone away for at least nine months now. She's lost a considerable amount of weight and she didn't have much to lose. There's the constant fear of violence and people threatening her. She continues to receive threatening mail, letters that still get through the prison facilities filtering. So she regularly still gets mail threatening her life and wishing all kinds of horrible things upon her. The throwing her in solitary, that they refused to call solitary or IDO or special housing for many things that are not her fault and then kept 24,7 under fluorescent lights, not allowed to go outside one to two hours a day. She is allowed outside of her cell, cut off from all phones and contact with the outside.

[Steve Bannon]

In between those, they have solitary confinement to shu. The special housing unit is a place to break you. The hardest cases they have, they feel they can't that don't get along with the rules or want to be a tough guy or tough. They put them in there to break them. It's psychologically and physically demanding. 24 hours a day you got the lights on, you never get outside. It's very small, no reading material. It's to psychologically break you. And they put Tina Peters in there all the time to try to break her Apollo. Hang on for one second. Go ahead, sir.

[Unknown Prison Advocate]

And they gaslight her about her being in there for whatever reason and her being the problem. It's just. It's disgraceful.

[Steve Bannon]

Disgraceful. I want to bring in. I'm going to start with John Case. We have two of her brilliant lawyers, Peter Tickton, that got the pardon from the president at the federal level, and John Case. John, I think one of the things people are finding the whole thing of getting there, but they gave her consecutive sentence instead of running concurrently or letting her out on appeal, which would be quite natural in a case like this. They really tripled the penalty and made sure they got her. How can this happen in Colorado? How can it happen in the judiciary system, Sir?

[John Case]

Great question, Steve. Can I talk for a minute about why the judge sentenced her, what he said to her? Yes, here's what he said. This is what makes Mrs. Peters such a danger to our community. It's the position she held that has provided her the pulpit from which she can preach these lies. The undermining of our democratic process, the undermining of the belief and confidence in our election systems. And prison is for those folks where we send people who are a danger to all of us, whether it be by the pen or the sword or the word of the mouth. So in other words, the judge sentenced her to eight years, nine months. Not quite nine years. Eight years, nine months in prison because of words that she used to criticize the computer voting system. And the trial was really. The trial and sentencing were the culmination of a process that began with a federal investigation of Tina, then pressure from the Secretary of state. They actually sent her a written stipulation in January of 2022 demanding that she retract her statements in writing about the voting system. Tina refused to do it. They said, if you don't sign this retraction, we're going to remove you from your duties as clerk and recorder. And she said, I'm not signing that. And they did remove her from her duties as clerk and recorder by getting a local judge to do that. After that, they started prosecuting her. They got a grand jury indictment. Then we went to trial. She was acquitted of three felony charges, but convicted of four. Those are on appeal along with the three misdemeanor charges. And we're confident we're going to get some relief, at least from the Colorado Court of Appeals. We had a very good experience at oral argument. We had a great panel of three judges. They asked terrific questions of me and of the assistant attorney general who has prosecuted Tina from day one. This wasn't really a county case in Mesa County. It was a centralized prosecution by the attorney general of the state of Colorado. Two deputy AGs were in the courtroom at all times. They examined every witness. And the DH finally.

[Steve Bannon]

Took a role.

[John Case]

At sentencing, where he demanded that the judge put Tina away for the maximum time. So, John, thing is just horrible.

[Steve Bannon]

Horrible. Hang on for a second. I want to get Peter in here, but let me ask you, in a. In the Colorado women's prison system that we have giving her eight months, eight years and nine months, when you're 70, I guess, one year old or 70 years old, and given the conditions and what's happened to her, they essentially tried to give her a death sentence, did they not, sir?

[John Case]

Yes. I mean, if she serves the entire. It's not likely she'll survive if she serves the full nine years. She is 70 years old, and she's not in great health. However, I need to tell your viewers, the harder they lean on Tina in prison, the stronger her spirit becomes. She's determined to be released from prison and restore transparency in our elections, and nothing's going to stop her. She is like the POWs in Vietnam. The harder they press on them, the stronger their spirit becomes. Even though the body's weak, the spirit grows in strength.

[Steve Bannon]

Amazing. Hang on for a second, John. It couldn't say it better. Just perfect. Peter Tickton, you. You actually worked your ass off. You got A pardon from the President, United States. Why are we having that 500 days at Tina Peters, the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, the Chief Magistrate and chief senior enforcement officer of the United States government, and the President, United States, all in one office. The Office of the President has pardoned Tina Peters. Sir, why are we here having the show today?

[Peter Tickton]

Well, the Court of Appeals has to basically rule on that. That's the first thing they have to decide even before their decision comes out. So that's what we're waiting for. We don't know which way they're going to go, but we expect that they're probably going to go along with the flow of saying that it doesn't apply to state charges. And from there we go to the Supreme Court of the United States, and that's where the decision will be made. So that's where we do go up there. But I just wanted to just pivot. I've been watching, and I love your other guests. They're right on track. Apollo's been just an amazing person, Never, never giving up. But there are three reasons that Tina Peters is in prison. Because you, you ask, how could this be? And why is it? And the first reason is to shut her up. Okay? She doesn't have the ability to criticize Dominion machines. She doesn't have the ability to, to raise the hue and cry and say there's something wrong with our election system. You earlier said that it's going to come out that there's foreign involvement in this. And there is. And she is the one that would be on the forefront of being able to say, we have an election emergency. We cannot be using the machines going forward. But of course, she's quieted. Secondly, she's a scapegoat. Janet Griswold is the real criminal here. And when I say that, I'm not just speaking figuratively, I'm talking specifically. And actually she is, because in 62 different counties, she literally caused the hard drives of the Dominion machines to be wiped clean and then overwritten. She destroyed the evidence. And there is a very specific federal statute that requires, requires it be kept for 22 months. So she violated that. That's good for a year in prison for each one. 62 years in prison is what she could be subject to. And the, the, the third reason, other than the scapegoat, is because they need to basically have somebody. Somebody there is as, as an example to all of the other clerks in the United States, not just Colorado. So she is there to warn all the other clerks. Don't you dare make a copy. Don't you dare image the hard drive of Dominion machine or a Liberty machine or any machine, because if you do, you're going to get what Tina Peters is getting. And believe me, it's working. It's scaring the other clerks and the supervisors of elections throughout the United States. So those are the three reasons that Tina Peters is in prison.

[Steve Bannon]

That's fantastic. The second point you brought up, though, is the U.S. attorney because President Trump won and I understand with blue slips, we've only gotten 14 U.S. attorneys in for the 94. But on your second point, the federal violations of Jenna Griswold, the Secretary of state, and she's maniacally focused audience on keeping Tina Peters in prison. Do you is there any understanding that either main justice or somewhere in the weaponization program over there or the U.S. attorney in Colorado, have they begun an investigation of Griswold and are they going to bring charges?

[Peter Tickton]

As far as I know, there's a zero on that. In fact, the entire weaponization department is now being disbanded by Todd Blanche. So, you know, these things aren't happening. The people that I talk to in the base are really disappointed with the lack of convictions that are occurring under the present Department of Justice. And, you know, they're thrilled about so many things that Donald Trump is doing, and yet this is one place where we're seeing failure. And can you, Donald Trump doesn't fail.

[Steve Bannon]

He doesn't let me.

[Peter Tickton]

Fortunately, he's trusted somebody that does.

[Steve Bannon]

We've got a minute here, and I'm going to hold all three of you guys through the break. The president is clearly frustrated. You work to get the pardon. Just, can you just share with the audience the president's frustration at this current situation, Sir?

[Peter Tickton]

Well, of course, when he, you know, look, world leaders don't say no to Donald Trump, and yet the officials in Colorado do. And it's not going to last. They're not going to prevail over this. It's a matter of time. But this is an issue that's only going to get resolved in the Supreme Court of the United States as to whether or not the federal pardon by the president of the United States will actually apply to state crimes. And you know, our position is that it does, and especially state crimes that are in an area of national control, such as national elections. So we're optimistic in terms of the pardon issue and we're moving forward with that. We need to first see what the Court of Appeals of Colorado is going to do with it because they actually have to rule on that. They have to determine do we have jurisdiction or is jurisdiction already gone because all these crimes are now wiped off the books?

[Steve Bannon]

Peter, hang on for one second. We're going to take a short commercial break. We're going to return with our guest in a moment. The 500 days of Tina Peters.

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[Steve Bannon]

Let her out. Okay. We're going to make this even more part integrated part of our content going forward because we're going to have to. Tina is not going to get out unless there's a massive folks putting shoulder to the wheel and using agencies. Tina Peters did it and I think what John Case said is that they're not going to break her. She's like one of these POWs. She is because she is a political prisoner. She's a pow but her spirit gets stronger as her body gets weaker. John Case, understand you filed a big briefing last night. Tell us about that, sir.

[John Case]

Well, we filed a reply in our effort to have Tina released on bond with while the court is deciding her appeal. This is the fourth application we have made for bond pending appeal and we've never had a ruling. No court has ever decided whether her first amendment rights were violated when the judge sentenced her to prison because of the words that she used to criticize the computer voting system. Tina exposed the threat to our liberty from computer voting systems. And the same software that was used to rig elections in Venezuela, a variation of that software is now used in Colorado and throughout the United States. If we don't get rid of these computer voting systems, we're all going to lose our freedoms. They're a menace to our liberty. So John, if People want to help the legal effort and help Tina, they can go to tinapeters us. And Steve, we so much appreciate your allowing us to speak for Tina. Tinapeters us.

[Steve Bannon]

One more time. Give that, because I know people are going to want to support you guys. So where do they go?

[John Case]

Tinapeters us. Tinapeters us.

[Steve Bannon]

You're not going to break her spirit. They're trying to break her physically. They're trying to break her mentally, too, but it's not because she's tough as boot leather. Peter Tickton, we got about two minutes. Are your thoughts at the federal level any closing thoughts today? And where do people go to support your efforts?

[Peter Tickton]

Okay, well, first of all, I gotta say that we've got one of the most amazing president that we've ever had in the history of the country, Donald Trump. Thank you, Donald Trump, for giving that pardon to Tina Peters. We're going to do everything we can possibly do to make sure that that pardon is meaningful and that it carries the weight and enhances the office of the president. So I thank you, sir. Secondly, as far as Tina Peters is concerned, we need to get her out of prison. And there are different ways. Things underway, and I'm hoping that that motion that John and I basically, and our team basically filed is going to do the trick. It gives the Court of Appeal an opportunity, because when you look at it, even assuming that they're going to just have resentencing, even assuming that they're not going to get rid of any of the convictions, and I'm sure that's not the case, it's going to be more than that. But let's just say it's only the sentencing, then that means that the time that she's in prison could be now more than the time that the resentencing would be. It could have been time for the amount of time served if she had been released pending appeal. And so every single day is an additional day. And the Court of Appeals has the strength and the power to be able to release her now. And the state has taken the position they don't have that ability or that strength. And we're going to see if the Court of Appeals ties its own hands for now and for the future, or if it exercises its inherent authority to release her. So. And where do people. I beg them to do so.

[Steve Bannon]

And where do people go to support you? 100% correct. In President Trump, where do people go to support your efforts?

[Peter Tickton]

Well, now we're talking about Tina Peters, so let's just stick with her. Tina Peters. T I N A P E T E R S us that's the place to go. That's where you'll be updated on Tina Peters and you'll be able to donate to her commissary or to her attorneys or to whatever you think is where you want to apply the funds. Please go to tinapeters us.

[Steve Bannon]

Peter, thank you for fighting. You're 100% correct about President Trump. I understand this is a party for me. He's incredibly frustrated. Thank you for your work, sir. A fighter case. Tickton 2 fighters. Apollo, you've stepped in like Natalie and Grace and Mo and Dave Brat and so many others stepped in when I was in prison, I was in prison for 120 days. Tina Peters 499 today, 500 tomorrow. Your closing thoughts, sir?

[Unknown Prison Advocate]

Well, first, just thank you to everyone who's listening. I do hope you hold Tina in your prayers. But if they can do this to Tina Peters, they can do this to every single one of you. The precedent that has stood from the moment Judge Matthew Barrett sentenced her through all this appeal process and her habeas is that you can be imprisoned and denied bail for first time offenses for your political speech and treated like an absolute prisoner of war. She is a prisoner of war. And everyone needs to remember this came down from doj. This was a RICO operation in my words, with doj, with, I'm sorry, the Secretary of State of Colorado in Dominion. That's why she became such a target starting in 2018. But the corrupt DOJ under Merrick Garland was involved in this prosecution and this travesty going back to 2021, at least that we have on record. And Tina Peters, even now her cry, her war cry from prison is please President Trump, we need to get rid of this, of these machines because it's shown in the MESA reports. This is why Jenna Griswold doesn't want her let out and has urged no one to offer her any solace. Any ability to be released as she should be is because they're afraid she know that Tina preserved evidence. And Tina's message to President Trump is thank you, thank you for fighting. Please. We need to get rid of these machines because we have very little time before the midterms. And I'll just ask you all to remember this is a gold star mother. A 70 year old who has been tortured psychologically and been denied justice in a show trial. A mistrial. And you are next. If this continues to stand, if we do not actually have real elections, Tina Peters legacy will be the canary in the coal mine that was snuffed out instead of the symbol that she has already been made of what it means to stand up and to fight no matter the consequence for the republic and for all of you. So just please go to tinapeters us for her show, for her legal defense fund. Make sure you follow her on social media. But Tina Peters is the symbol that they made her out to be. It wasn't the 2020 election, it was the municipal election. Because her own constituents told her that. Pay attention to this, please, Tina. And then she preserved records. So if you can do your job and be thrown in prison and turned into a villain, your children can be as well. And that's what Tina is most concerned about. We need elections and we need the truth.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Unknown Prison Advocate]

Tinapeters us. You can find the links. It's the truth matters Real Tina Peters on Rumble. All those links are on tinapeters us for the show, for socials and for her legal defense fund. So go there and you'll find everything that you need for her case.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, Apollo. Appreciate you. We'll be up on social media the 500 days that Tina Peters will play throughout the weekend on Real America's Voice.

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