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Steve Bannon (0:00)
Trump has seen the polling, right? I think this started when he lost the election. I remember that quote of the Republican senator who said, right anonymously, who said, let him play golf, let him say the election was rigged. He's not going to do anything. I mean, good people have gone along with this. Republicans who are not, who know it's not true have gone along with it long enough so that they have created a monster. So that that kind of anti Democratic rhetoric has go, yes, we must build election infrastructure that makes it easy and secure for eligible American citizens to vote while preventing noncitizens, including what she calls illegal aliens, from casting ballots. The choice of who to vote for is obviously up to the voters themselves. Clean up on aisle nine. Angelo. Here's the thing. Who are the right people? These are the questions. Who are the right people? For whom do we want them voting for? And furthermore, where is the evidence of the widespread voter fraud? Even the Heritage foundation has not determined there is widespread voter fraud. Their own data and research says there's not. So is this a case of if they just say it enough, people start to believe it?
Stephen K. Bannon (1:15)
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Steve Bannon (1:15)
So I think that's part of it in terms of their execution. But it's something to also consider is that where's the evidence where you can actually find them? There are people now, there's not evidence, but the source of it is there's this constellation of right wing influencers that have been pickled in these lies now for six years. And they are not just out there, you know, talking about it. They're working directly with the Trump administration to say now it's time. Now that you're in power, go back and find proof of the things and the conspiracies that we were pushing five or six years ago. So if you look at what happened in Fulton county just a week before the raid in Fulton County, Patrick Byrne, who was in the oval office in 2020 with Sidney Powell and Michael Flynn saying seize the. When Trump said to seize the voting machines, he gothe had to leave a TV hit before it happened to do an emergency meeting at the White House, which apparently was about some upcoming thing related to election conspiracy. So to me, that's where's the source. It's all of these influencers out there that they are now basically running the playbook around whatever false claim they have been holding onto for six or seven years. And they're everywhere. There's a bunch of people percolating in Maricopa county now in Arizona. And so that's what they're. That's the thing that's sort of giving it some fuel, obviously, Trump's own narrative and all the externalities for it. But you can really zero in. And that's what you'll find. Europe really needs the US in NATO's, in all kinds of things. And so there are still European leaders who listen to the Marco Rubio in Munich and think, actually, you know, the US Is still with us. This is all going to be okay. But there are others who say essentially it's over. We need to assume that we're on our own and Europe needs the US as the strong leader slash beacon of the free world, not the direction it's going in now. And the question is, are some banking on history holding? I think that's over. I think in Europe, there's a very strong sense that I got from the days in Munich and indeed before in Davos, all this idea of what people call the global world order, the U.S. it is over. The West, I think, is over as a concept in the sense that there are significant differences now between what the United States administration wants and what many people in Europe want. And it is much. It is important to be realistic about that. There are areas that we agree on, but the idea that the US Is pushing for the same agenda as Europe, think only about, look at Ukraine. As you say, Secretary Rubio is supporting the man who is making it most difficult in Europe to support Ukraine. Why are we talking about this? Because it's overwhelmingly popular with the public. I remember voting here in Washington, D.C. in 2016 and being told, oh, no, you've already voted. And I had to fill out a provisional ballot. Now, it was a clerical error. There was nothing necessarily nefarious going on. But that obviously can be resolved by having some form of an easily obtainable state ID that people show to say that they are who they are. And, you know, we should also remember as we talk about all of this, it is dramatically easier to vote in the United States today than it was 10 years ago, 20 years ago. We have expanded access to polling places. We have early voting. People in the primary in North Carolina are already voting today. It is so much easier to vote in America today than it used to be. And we sometimes lose sight of that. This is now ruptured. Something Mark Carney, the prime Minister of Canada, talked about a rupture. I think something has ripped and there is a massive loss of trust. And in Europe now, there are more and more people saying we cannot trust the Americans any longer. And that's a fundamental shift. Texas actually Starts voting tomorrow. There's some early votes happening in Texas. This who is on the ballot. This who is, what's and who is on the ballot in Texas. In federal and statewide, one United States senator seat, 38 House seats. There are some new congressional districts. Given that redistricting, mid decade redistricting. Governor, Lieutenant Governor, Attorney General, Comptroller of Public Accounts, Commissioner of General Land Office, commissioner of agriculture, one seat for railroad commissioner, four members of the state Supreme Court, three members of the Court of Criminal Appeals and three members of the 15th Court of Appeals. Early voting starts in the primaries tomorrow in Texas. This is like kicking off the season, if you will. Cornell, what are you watching for in. In Texas coming up? The House stuff is a mess. But what I'm watching for is you have a sitting Republican incumbent who's being challenged in the primary by someone who is, who is, who is very much sort of in the Trump vein. If he takes out Cornyn and that primary. Katie, bar the door because as you know, look, 80, 85, 88% of incumbents win reelection. A Texas open seat is very different from a Texas seat where you have a sitting incumbent and someone who is, who is more trumpy and less mainstream than the sitting Republican. I think that becomes a very interesting race for Democrats. If Cornyn is taken out in the.
