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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it.
Stephen K. Bannon (advertisement/promos)
I know you don't like hearing that.
Steve Bannon
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Brendan Steinhauser
And where do people like that go.
Steve Bannon
To share the big lie?
Brendan Steinhauser
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
Steve Bannon
I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Stephen K. Bannon (advertisement/promos)
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.
Steve Bannon
Country, this country will be saved. WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. It's Tuesday the 17th of February, and the year of our Lord 2026. It is the beginning of early voting in Texas, which is the center of the political universe right now. Because as goes Texas, so goes the nation. And as goes the nation, so goes the world. Matt Mech, the MAGA movement and the coalition around President Trump. We're going to have the Maha guys on tonight at 5:00 clock to talk about this because we kick off, really the beginning of the midterm elections essentially kicks off today. And we want to talk about their coalition and their motivation. You run one of the, you're organized, help organize one of the biggest coalitions out there of people that are very focused on elections, the fairness elections and make sure that elections don't get stolen in the, in the future. What are the number one concerns of your coalition members right now?
Matt Mech
Our number one concern right now is that really nothing of substance has changed from 2020 to now. And if it doesn't, we're toast. And it needs to change and it needs to change drastically. And to do that, we're certainly trying to work from the bottom up with literacy, on the education system. It's we the People's election, not the government, not a third party vendor. It's our we the People's election and people will, through us, help them understand registration, validation, tabulation and reporting. And it's important that we motivate from the bottom up because to be honest, Steve, we need to see hopefully some more bold, decisive action from the top down. But we're ready. We've got the ground fertile. We're ready for whatever Trump's gonna do. We'll help execute it.
Steve Bannon
Well, here's the thing. There's all this debate now. I mean, the Save America act is basically ground to a halt now. Rachel Bovard I'll make sure we put this up. Rachel Bovard's got, as she always does, she's got a very sophisticated piece in the Federals today about kind of a workaround of the, the. Maybe workaround's too hard a word about the, about the filibuster. Because right now none of the Save America act is going to be voted on implement. President Trump is coming out with, he says, a nationwide executive order. I know they're working on it over the White House. Obviously that's going to be challenged in courts right away. And we are burning daylight. So, Matt, I can already tell that people, a lot of people are quite interested in joining up with, with you guys.
Stephen K. Bannon (advertisement/promos)
Where do they go?
Steve Bannon
Where's the action center? If you want to be part of the coalition, you want to be on these incredible calls. I know you got a show every night at 7 o' clock that has a, a fairly big audience. Where do folks go to become part of your movement, Steve?
Matt Mech
They can certainly email me at matauthorized1 and we'll connect them up. We have what's called a hub. It's our own server, our own network that the, the great Mark Cook is doing the hand count roadshow has created for us. And we network and share and we scale up from there. And sir, if I could, it's important we motivate from the bottom up because Peter Tickton knows this. President Trump knows this directly. Cash knows this. People out here in our network, we were involved in, we've got them recorded and we've given that all to law enforcement, these people, whatever it means. But they said about May or April of last year, Trump won't even exist in two years. They're serious.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, repeat that.
Stephen K. Bannon (advertisement/promos)
Repeat.
Steve Bannon
I want people, because this is how serious this is. Why, you know, Sam Faddis was out of the country and wrote this thing about the American Tet. We've gone through the American Tet Offensive up in Minneapolis. I asked him, I said, hey, I know you're on vacation, but I need you up here. It's so important, this thing. People do not understand the scale of the hatred coming from President Trump and the scale of the hatred coming from maga. Just repeat what you just said.
Matt Mech
There's folks out here and it's linked to 18 AGS and others. Part of it is. It's part of a case, an investigation going on. But they said Trump won't even exist in two years. And that was about April of last year.
Stephen K. Bannon (advertisement/promos)
Matt, one more time.
Steve Bannon
Where do people go to sign up.
Matt Mech
With Your group just contact me at mattnauthorized1o n e. Thank you, brother.
Steve Bannon
Appreciate it. Look forward to having you back on Every night at 7 o'. Clock. Every night, 7 o'.
Rabbi P.W. Wolicki
Clock.
Steve Bannon
They've got their show. Peter Navarro, Very strong message came from the White House on Sunday. I know the powers that be in Big Tech picked it up. I'm not sure all of MAGA got it. It was on Maria Bartiromo. Let's play the cold open and bring Brendan Steinhauser.
Maria Bartiromo
In other issue that's happening and it is changing the economy at every level and that is artificial intelligence.
Unidentified Host/Interviewer
Sure.
Maria Bartiromo
AI efficienc are in fact replacing jobs and people are worried that longer term we will see their job go away because of AI. What's the plan at the White House to counter those efficiencies? And how serious of an issue are you looking at this?
Unidentified Host/Interviewer
It's a massive issue and it's, it's right on the President's desk and on his radar. I think the one that's been most publicized is the effect on electricity prices. And the President has already taken action. We're going to be taking a lot more. But there's water issues, issues, there's the loss of agricultural land and obviously there's going to be major structural shifts in the labor market. The issue for the United States of America is to balance the need to be at the leading edge and the leader in artificial intelligence, not just for economic reasons, but for national security reasons because this will be one of the most dangerous weapons of war we've ever seen. So we have to lead China and others on this. But at the same time, we have to be mindful of the impacts across this nation. And so we're going to have to deal with that. And so there's just a lot of thought, a lot of action on this. So stay tuned. But I'm telling you, President Trump is aware of all four dimensions of the problem.
Steve Bannon
Yeah.
Maria Bartiromo
Because he's balancing, on the one hand, wanting and needing to be the number one global power on AI beating China and that means a build out of data centers. But on the other side, he's battling people like Senator Bernie Sanders and Richard Blumenthal who are criticizing rapid data center buildout, saying all of these data center build out, that needs to stop. I mean, you can't exactly stop if you're looking to be number one on the global stage. And in terms of AI, what needs.
Unidentified Host/Interviewer
To happen, Maria, is that all of these data center builders, Metta on down, need to pay for all all of the costs emphasize on that they need to not only pay for the electricity that they're using on the grid, but they have to pay for the resiliency that they're affecting as well. They need to pay for the water. So there's activity action here going forward where we force them to internalize the costs. You can't be a Luddite like Bernie. I mean, Bernie is one of the great Luddites. But what you have to do is make sure the American people are not hurt. And loss of farmlands, no small thing either. Brooke Rollins, Secretary of Agriculture she's been a really bright light on so many crises we've had, dealing with egg prices, dealing with beef prices, dealing with AI. I just want to assure people that we're on it. We also feel your pain, America. We understand the ravages that inflation took on you because of Joe Biden's irresponsibility, but we are addressing that with economic policies that ultimately will make wages rise faster than the inflation rate.
Steve Bannon
The cost, who's paying for it? Also the agriculture land that's a huge issue in Texas and water from West Texas to Arizona aquifers, all of it. Brendan Steinheiser, I want to address you're from the alliance and I want to make sure everybody, because you're building, helping to build a social movement. I want to get to the data centers and all that. But over the last 10 days, the nine days that shook the world in February, that we now realize the warnings of many of us, you included, about, hey, there's got to be some guardrails here, not just the guardrails for children, not just guardrails for content creators, all the kind of four C's we talked about. But there's a deeper issue going on. And now the most sophisticated people in artificial intelligence, including many of the people that oversaw the safety provisions internally to the companies, are saying there's something going on here, that this thing is quickly getting out of control because it's developing faster than even the developers thought. Can you walk us through that? The nine days in February that shook the world.
Brendan Steinhauser
Absolutely, Steve, and it's good to be back with you. The, the trend lines that we're seeing are picking up very fast. And so a lot of us have been talking about this for a few years now. But what we're seeing, even in the last 30 days, in the last nine days, as you're citing, is everything is changing much more rapidly. So you're seeing software engineers and people that run software companies talking about how they are essentially being replaced right now. And they're putting out warning shots saying this is going to happen to all white collar work. Mustafa Soliman, the head of AI for Microsoft, said that he thinks that white collar jobs could be automated within 12 to 18 months. Now, we may or may not buy that timeline, but they are sounding the alarm. These are the people building the technology. We had OpenAI just in the last week, people fleeing that company, leaving that company, saying they're not taking safety seriously, they're not taking security seriously. And so some folks who've left OpenAI and Anthropic, one of the other companies, have said the world is in peril. They're literally going to go do something else with their lives because they're so concerned that we're on the wrong path here. We've had questions obviously about the finance side of this, about whether there's an AI bubble or this circular financing that's creating all these potential problems in the economy. So it's that combined with regular Americans. I mean, I go and talk to people on the road all the time and they are concerned about their jobs. They're seeing these headlines, they're seeing more and more people talk about this. And then their friends who work in tech, their friends that work as software engineers or tech sales, are seeing this happening to them right now. So the problem is that white collar work and then eventually blue collar work is at grave peril right now. And so the administration and Congress have to act right now to get this right, to protect American workers.
Steve Bannon
I want to go back. You know, they've eviscerated a trillion dollars of value in software companies the other day. And it's ironic that the software engineers were the ones that kind of worked on this and did it. But when you say 12 to 18 months, I've actually talked to some people thinking come in there, it's administrative, managerial and tech, and particularly at the low level, entry level, all the way up to the highest level, where they would probably need some people with some wisdom or guidance that can make decisions. But that this evisceration, particularly of tech workers, has gone far more rapidly than they thought. As we warned that, hey, once this thing picks up steam, you have no, you have no idea how quickly it can build on itself. And I'm hearing that, hey, what used to take what they could concentrate for four minutes, now they can concentrate for four hours. Next week it's going to be four weeks. The week after that's going to be four months, it's going to be four years. That the this is accelerating at an accelerating rate and scaring the absolute people that have been the biggest kind of apostles about this, that they're actually frightened right now. And you can see this in the stock market. You can see it's going through particularly software. It hit last week $1 trillion in value ripped from these software companies, a lot of whom are saying, well, we're trying to do, you know, AI agents, and you're still going to have humans that's just not working out. These, the bots and the agents are actually taking over and being prepared to take over in a much quicker pace, are they not?
Brendan Steinhauser
BRENDAN they are. And, and this idea that you'll hear more about, many of the audience members will hear about this recursive self improvement, that's kind of what you're alluding to there, the idea that AIs are now going to be improving themselves. We've seen this already a little bit. Again, the engineers, the people who are overseeing this process are saying AIs are going to basically improve themselves. They're going to create better and better AIs, and it's going to lead to this exponential growth and capabilities. So that's what's happening right now. We're sort of entering that stage. And I have to say too, one of the other things I've witnessed just in the last couple of weeks is how some of these CEOs again, especially Dario Amade, the head of Anthropic, Elon Musk, the head of Xai, they're going out there and basically telling the world what's about to happen. And I don't know if it's a guilt complex or they're trying to do a CYA or it's something else, but they are basically putting it out there saying what we are doing is going to replace you, it's going to replace white collar workers and blue collar workers. There's really no escape from this unless we do take some pretty drastic measures in terms of looking at this topic more seriously, studying this, figuring out where we're going, how do we get this, this right to make AI go well for humanity? Because if we don't, then it could be too late. And all of a sudden not only are we out of a job, in which case we lose our work, our income, our human dignity, but then this thing becomes so advanced that we lose control of AI completely. And that's where people really worry about these loss of control scenarios leading to AI just being the successor species to human beings.
Steve Bannon
BRENDAN hang on for a second. This is not science fiction, folks. This is science fact. What the poet tell us, the French poet from World War I. See what you see. The folks at the center of this, the Frontier Labs are telling you right up in your grill exactly what is happening. Short commercial break Back and warm in a moment.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
Steve Bannon
Brennan Steinhauser, you know, and we'll come on later in the week. I'll get the group back together to talk about you got you get this Utah legislation. You've got Ron DeSantis digging his heels in in Florida because he's not seen at the federal regulatory level, regulation level coming together, our bills bouncing around. But has what happened in the last in those nine days in February now raises up to the a situation that the secretary of war or DHS or somebody at a cabinet level needs to immediately go in and then come back to the president, the commander in chief and say, hey, here's exactly what's going on these Frontier labs. I want to I'm sure there's, you know, talk for these Frontier Labs, but should now would your recommendation be that the president actually ought to deputize somebody to kind of get their hands around it so they then send out a message to the American people that were on top of this. Also what's happened in these labs over the last week should absolutely. Have us ban 1 million percent. Any more shipment of advanced chips to China. Any more of the Chinese students coming over here to these great universities to learn. All the Chinese nationals have to leave the labs, have to leave the companies in the United States. If the big threat here is to have China get control of this, then we have to go to the 100%. As close as we can get to 100% probability that they have no access to American technology, training, education or capital. At the same time, the frontier labs. Somebody's got to go in the Frontier labs. I've warned about this, right, that somebody's got to go in there and actually find out what's happening and report back to the President, Sir.
Brendan Steinhauser
Absolutely. So I'll start with the second point quickly and say we have to choke off the supply of advanced chips to China. We have to pass legislation like the Chip Security act that Senator Tom Cotton from Arkansas has been championing. There's another House bill moving to the House Foreign Affairs Committee now, hopefully to the full House, the AI Overwatch Act. Those are a couple pieces of legislation that are similar and that they're trying to restrict access to chips from China. That's critical in this effort. Going back to your first point, though, Yes. I think the President needs to have someone who is focused on national security who says we have to have transparency and accountability. We need the federal government to have oversight on the Frontier Labs. There needs to be mandatory testing. We need to have eyes on this, on these frontier models which are potentially building artificial general intelligence or superintelligence. That is the path we're on. And right now, there's no access, there's no transparency, there's no accountability. And so we. We definitely need someone at that level to do that. And there is a bill there as well by Senator Josh Hawley from Missouri. He's championing the AI Risk Evaluation act, which would do just that. And it would give that authority to the federal government to say, I think the.
Steve Bannon
I think the legislative. Yeah, I think the legislative part of this is fine, but I think this is a national security issue. It has to be addressed right away. This is not coming from the Max Tegmarks or the Brendan Steinhausers are the Mark Beals or the Jason Van Beck's. All the people we have on it that are working on this professionally every day. This is coming from people in the industry. This is coming from the top people in the industry. A lot of these people are just saying, you know what? This thing's so far gone, I'm going to go, you know, do pottery because I'm not so sure where humanity is going to go. And I've, I've worked on the safety issues. I'm going to go garden. That should be a major flare to the American people that something is up here and we're just not, we just don't have our hands around it. Brandon, where do people go? You're the alliance. You're trying to form a massive social movement here. Where do people go?
Brendan Steinhauser
You can follow us on social media channels at Secure AI now at Secure AI Now. And then our website is secure AI.
Steve Bannon
Now.Org Brendan, thank you so much. Brendan Steinhauser, thank you so much for, for joining us.
Brendan Steinhauser
Sir.
Steve Bannon
Secure AI Now. Okay, let's go ahead. We've got a, this is pretty shocking. Let's go ahead and play. This is about this, the radical transgender ideology. President Trump, as much as President Trump and everybody that's been on here for years has fought this. The Terry Shillings of the world, the Christian Post people, Brandon Showalter, all the great efforts. Let's just see what's happening here. Let's go and play it.
Maria Bartiromo
At least nine people are dead and two dozen others hurt after separate shootings at a school and a home in a remote part of British Columbia. Canadian police confirming that at least six people were found dead inside the school while another died on the way to the hospital. The only suspect, a woman was found dead inside the school from a self inflicted injury. Two other victims were found dead at a nearby home believed to be connected with the shooter. The shooting is Canada's deadliest in nearly six years. The investigation into the motive continues.
Steve Bannon
So a suspect is identified as an.
Rabbi P.W. Wolicki
18 year old female by the name of Jessie. We have a history of police attendance.
Steve Bannon
At the family residence. Some of those calls are, were, pardon.
Rabbi P.W. Wolicki
Me, related to mental health issues. So it is believed the victims of that residence and the suspect are family members.
Steve Bannon
Can you say what parents, what relationship that is?
Rabbi P.W. Wolicki
Yes, the female adult victim is the mother of the suspect and the youth.
Steve Bannon
Male is the brother of the suspect or stepbrother.
Rabbi P.W. Wolicki
Can you confirm whether the suffix of male female referred to as a transgender person? Is that something that you have in terms of information?
Steve Bannon
So what I can say right now.
Sheila Matthews
That we have identified the person, the suspect by a birth name. The birth name was Robert Dorgan.
Maria Bartiromo
We have also learned that the person.
Sheila Matthews
Does go by the name of Roberta, also uses the last name of Esposito. Were you born a boy or a girl?
Steve Bannon
I was born.
Able Child Representative
That's.
Sheila Matthews
What is that Ex girl.
Steve Bannon
You're upset because your daughter was born a man, so you've decided to take it out against the entire district. What's wrong with you?
Sheila Matthews
No, my daughter was born female. She has XX chromosomes, and she'll always be a woman.
Able Child Representative
Right?
Sheila Matthews
She can't change her sex. You know, why do you think doctors would want to give you guys hormones that'll, you know, change your.
Steve Bannon
Because they want to make people happy, you idiot.
Sheila Matthews
I know, but in fact, that's why.
Steve Bannon
My voice is cracking. I love hormones.
Sheila Matthews
What was that?
Steve Bannon
He said you.
Sheila Matthews
So wait, are you guys worried that you might lose your sexual function if you're on hormones?
Steve Bannon
Oh, I already do. I've already lost all of them.
Sheila Matthews
Them?
Steve Bannon
But I've been taking hormones for six months. I don't give a. I'm happier.
Sheila Matthews
Why does it affect you?
Able Child Representative
That's my question is why would it affect you?
Steve Bannon
And why do you think it's a good idea?
Able Child Representative
Why are you disregarding the way that your children feel so that you get attention.
Steve Bannon
The disrespect you have.
Able Child Representative
Your child disgusts me. Yeah. You can't respect the way they want.
Steve Bannon
To live their life, birth this whole.
Able Child Representative
Child, and carried it for nine months just to disrespect the out of it while it's alive.
Steve Bannon
Why would you do that as a mother? And then you have to all to show up in front of our school.
Sheila Matthews
Her. The doctors wanted to give her top surgery when she was 15. Maybe because that's how she felt. She did feel like that at 15. She hated her breasts. She didn't want to become a woman.
Steve Bannon
And I hate my genitals, too.
Stephen K. Bannon (advertisement/promos)
If I had the chance, I'd cut them off.
Steve Bannon
I've come real close.
Sheila Matthews
What genitals you have?
Steve Bannon
I'm not gonna. How old are you, Grandma? What's wrong with you?
Rabbi P.W. Wolicki
I. I just wanna disgust me.
Sheila Matthews
Well, I am old and I am.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, you're older.
Able Child Representative
Child's mental health by you doing all these things.
Maria Bartiromo
Hey, I.
Able Child Representative
Can you just leave?
Sheila Matthews
No, I'm just trying to understand. You can grow up to be a healthy whole person. Nobody's transgender. The medical clinics are making money off. That person deserves to know the truth. You are not transgender. It's not possible. It is not possible. You guys. It's mass psychosis. Nobody's transgender.
Steve Bannon
Sheila Matthews, able child. What is this, like a Kafkas nightmare? I mean, you saw with all the. All the improvements people are making and going and suing these medical centers. It's like the village of the damned right there. And you see the horrible, horrible. I mean, this guy yesterday, Robert called Roberta, looked like a pulling guard for the Green Bay packers, right? Tell me what's going on.
Able Child Representative
This is human experimentation. We saw this with the Nazis, with Germany. This is a mass psychosis. This is a paper tiger. Once we talk about it and we get to the funding of it, which our government is doing, both sides, it's a bipartisan community SAFER act that is doing this. This is the school psychologists in the school system. We have to be able to talk about this. This is a crime against humanity. It's not hurting anybody's feelings. This is about changing humanity the way we see it today. Women and men have been around for 30 over 300,000 years. Okay? This is a cult and it's funded. It's funded within our government. We were seeing that. And so President Eisenhower freed the Nazi camps in April of, I think it was April 12th of 1945. And he wanted German people to see, see the atrocities of what was going on. This is what we are seeing. We have no accountability. This is on the presidential level. Able Child has worked through this for multiple years. And we're appealing to anybody that will listen to us. And I believe it comes down. People watch your show. Steve and I know President watches your show. And we want a seat at the table and we want it now. We are not going to put up with this any longer. We don't care to vote if you're a Democrat or Republican. This is our main priority right now. We all understand you guys don't, but we do. So this is a crisis and we want a seat at the table. I'm willing to sit down with the drug companies. I'm willing to sit down with President Trump. I'm willing to sit down with this Mr. McBride of Delaware, this congressman who is saying he is a woman. I am a woman. He is not a woman. He's not going to take over my.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, hang on one second. We're gonna take a short commercial break. Natasha Owens takes us out. We're finished with this and we're gonna go to the Middle east on Next World.
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Steve Bannon
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Able Child Representative
Am.
Well, we have articles on our website, so it's ablechild.org, ablechild.org we encourage you to read about it because we don't want more mental health funding. We want more a return to education. You need to read the articles. We've been following this for 25 years and we are celebrating March 10th in West Palm Beach. And you could go to ablechild25.com for tickets. We still have a few left. I have to tell you, we're selling out pretty quick. And so that is our 25 year anniversary. And so please support us. Oh, there's a petition on our website. Please sign it. And again, our articles will really show you what is going on here. It's the structural system within the education system. It's not about just labeling everybody mentally ill. It's taking care of children before they get to psychiatry. We want to help and we urge you to go to ablechild.org read our articles. Their black box suicide warnings and increased risk of suicide and homicide from these cocktails of drugs.
Steve Bannon
You saw this yesterday. Look, this guy looks like a blocking back and he, I think, murdered his wife in cold blood, shot three of his six daughters, I think, and then killed himself. Roberta, Check Roberta out. If Denver can get some photos up. Sheila, thank you so much. You're fighting the good fight. Look forward to having you back on, ma'.
Able Child Representative
Am.
Stephen K. Bannon (advertisement/promos)
All right.
Able Child Representative
Thank you, Steve, for everything you do.
Steve Bannon
Thank you. This is, this is part of that revolution, a big part of the revolution. It's also the under. It's transhumanism. It's if you can be any gender you want or where they. They say they got 30 types of gender. Back to hard geopolitics right now, Rabbi Wolicki, we have Kurt Mills on a lot. I always like to balance it with your thinking. I'm hearing now that there's a framework and Captain Fennell is going to be here because we're shipping more hardware and assets into the Middle East. I think at any time, I actually think if you take the ground troops out, it's bigger than the buildup to the Gulf War. I'm hearing now that there's a framework for a deal, that the Persians, in their own negotiating methods now have a framework of a framework of a framework. Am I correct on that, sir?
Rabbi P.W. Wolicki
Yeah. Welcome to the Persian negotiating table. You know, there's no such thing as negotiating successfully with Persians. When you, when you walk into the room, you've lost. But what's been agreed upon. According to the reports, Foreign Minister of Iran Abbas Aragchi gave a statement really just a few hours ago saying that this, that they've made progress and that each side is going to work towards putting together a draft to be negotiated later. And, but guiding principles were worked out. And he specifically told the Iranian media that, quote, progress does not mean that an agreement will be reached soon, but the path has started. And this is, you know, this is consistent with what I've been saying is their strategy. Their strategy is to drag this out as long as possible. The longer it takes, you know, the better they have. They just want to keep kicking the can down the road. And ultimately their goal is the survival of the regime.
Steve Bannon
Look, I just want to make sure President Trump wants, I think, a total eradication of their nuclear program. I think they've said that's not possible. The Israelis want a broader context of that. Ballistic missiles, everything. Just make it so we can understand it. There's all these different things, and I realize there's people in Israel that want regime change and they've asked permission in the United States that they have to, to go it alone. Just set, take a minute and set the framework. What's going on, because they're giving us diplomatic speak and we're still, we're sending a second carrier strike group over there to provide some muscle. So where do you think this all is right now?
Rabbi P.W. Wolicki
Well, that's a great, that's a great way to frame the question, Steve, because the different players here really do have very different agend who are on the same side, ostensibly meaning like the United States and Israel are, of course coordinating, but they don't have the same agenda. And it's very important for both Americans and Israelis to remember that, that we don't have identical interests. The United States, of course, does not want Iran to have a nuclear program. And a lot of what they had was devastated during the 12 Day War. And Trump has kind of shifted back to talking, you know, to making these conversations about that. But the truth is, from Israel's perspective, and even before the riots that led to all this erupted, you know, back, whatever it is, a little more than a month ago, a month and a half ago, even before those erupted, Israel had been talking a great deal about the fact that Iran had very quickly, very successfully rebuilt a lot of its ballistic missile program. The ballistic missile program in Iran, from an Israeli perspective, is talked about more as an existential threat to Israel. That's more of a pressing issue for Israelis than the. Than the nuclear program ever since the 12 Day War. Because the nuclear program is kind of like it was damaged, and it's, you know, it's, you know, let's see what they could do with it. And we also know that we have more of the backing of the rest of the world, who also cares about Iran not getting a nuke. But when it comes to the ballistic missiles, that's the real existential threat. That's what caused so much damage to Israel during the 12 Day War, and that's what. And that's what's worrisome about. About it to the future. So if the United States comes up with some kind of deal with the Iranians that has to do with the nuclear, but doesn't deal with the ballistic missile threat, the Israelis have already been saying, over the last week or two, they've been saying it here and there in statements, but they mean it that Israel's not going to feel bound by that agreement. We still have existential threats to our country that we're going to have to deal with. And so that's something also to keep in mind. And then you have the Iranian people, and here's where things get a little dicey in terms of what Trump, what Trump is doing, because when he made that statement, help is on the way. And whether that was a wise statement to make or not is not. Is neither here nor there. It was made. The Iranian people took it very seriously and went out to the streets in much greater force. And it is undoubtable that many more Iranians were killed because of that boldness, because they really felt that they had a back, that someone was coming, you know, coming to help them out in their attempts to bring down the regime. And there's a lot of chatter coming out of Iran. And I pay close attention to whatever seeps out of Iran through social media and stuff that gets translated into Hebrew. There's a lot of material that comes out. There's a big Persian community in Israel that also brings forward a lot of that information. There's a real sense of betrayal by Trump. Now, again, whether that's justified or not or whether Trump made the right move is neither here nor there. And if in the end of the day there aren't strikes, there's gonna be this perception in certain quarters in the Middle east and also from the Iranian regime who's been taunting Trump, saying that he's chicken and that he failed and that his real goal is to bring down the regime, and he failed to do so. So Trump's perception on the stage in the Middle east is also at stake here. Again, I'm not so sure it was wise for him to say help is on the way, but he did it.
Steve Bannon
The Scott Besants destroying their currency was, I think, what drove people into the streets saying, well, hang on for a second. Rabbi, do I have Captain Fennell? Oh, I don't. Okay. I was going to have Captain Fennell. Captain Fennell is going to talk about we're not going to be able to do it today, so we're going to have to do it some other time. I've run out of time. Captain Fennell is going to talk about. Rabbi, you know, having been over there with a carrier battle group or two carrier battle groups in North Arabian Sea, I know the amount of force that a strike group can get. We've got a second large strike group there right now. Other assets are flowing into the region. There's all discussion about some of our Arab allies, people like uae, Qatar, Saudi Arabia giving us overflight rights, this concern, and the Gulf Emirates about those ballistic missiles, about taking out their oil and gas reserves. Or I've heard in talking to people there, some people are afraid they could knock it down for five to seven years. There's reports out right now that the Persians are actually going through pretty sophisticated operations in the Straits of Hormuz. Now, why they would want us, I guess their threat is that, hey, we'll shut down UAE and Qatar forever by blocking it. But of course, the Chinese Communist Party's oil has got to go through there. What is, as you see it, the military situation right now? Because the United States, President Trump is going to have a lot of options. Right. And he's going to negotiate. He's a man of peace. He wants to negotiate, but he's going to have a lot of options. How's that viewed in the region?
Rabbi P.W. Wolicki
It's viewed in the region as, I mean, for those who are anti Iran, the negotiations are viewed as basically a waste of time. But we understand why President Trump wants to go down that route and reach the end point of them so that he can turn around and say, okay, I tried everything. I tried to negotiate. That's the way people are interpreting it. I'm not advocating for one side or another on that point. I'm just saying that is how it's being interpreted in Middle Eastern media, that negotiating is really not going to lead anywhere. But when we look at the behavior of the Iranian regime, I think this is a very important point for your audience to understand all of this Muscle flexing and having military drills in the Straits of Hormuz, which they closed today for those drills, and displaying coffins of American military brass at a public demonstration last week and, you know, trash talking Trump, which looks on the surface to be counterproductive. It looks almost suicidal. Why are they poking the bear? Why aren't they being more conciliatory? So I believe that what's happening here is that the regime, I think the regime feels that no matter how bad the US Military strikes on them will be, they won't bring down the regime. You can't bomb a regime out of existence. And that's something that everyone needs to take a deep breath and understand. You cannot bomb a regime out of existence. You can bomb them, you can weaken them, but in the end of the day, the regime can only fall if the Iranian people bring it down. You can create conditions that make that easier, but you cannot obliterate a regime. And I think the regime is counting on Trump not wanting a prolonged conflict and also not being willing to, or not being able politically to absorb any US Casualties at all. And therefore, they don't really need to beat the American Army. They just need to survive and weather the storm of American attacks enough and possibly even slip a missile or a drone through to some American base in the region and kill a few American servicemen, and there will be a hue and cry in the US for, you know, for, you know, for Trump to stop this entire thing and get out of there. And if that happens, they survive. And they. And no matter how weak they are, as long as they're in power, they can reconstitute themselves. They're still getting their cash flow from selling oil to the Chinese Communist Party, and they could. And then they can just keep their head down until Trump is out of office and continue their regime. That's how the Iranians see the calculus here. So you have the way they're thinking, and then you have, like what I said, the Israelis are looking at this purely from our own security perspective and saying, we want to deal with the proxies. We want to deal with the ballistic. Yeah, we want to deal with the nuclear, too, but that's more. Mostly been dealt with recently, and that's less of a pressing issue. And then you have the Americans who, who are, who are making noises about it being made about the nuclear. So there's, you know, people are talking different languages in this space, but there's a strong consensus in Middle Eastern media that this is going to kinetic conflict.
Steve Bannon
Hang on for one second. I want to hold you through the break. We're going to get Captain Fennell. We're going to work to get Captain Fanel because I want to detail detailed today at 5. We're going to figure that out. I want to talk about the assets flowing into the area. We are strong believer and bring it down economically. Big difference of opinion when a lot of people about that including folks Department of War short break.
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Rabbi P.W. Wolicki
That could very well be. Look, let's remember that these protests started for economic reasons. And that's a very critical point in, you know, if we're looking downrange and this is what we do in war room, try to look downrange and anticipate what's coming. If we're looking downrange, we have to recognize that all of the problems that led to this flare up of protests that have caused this entire situation right now, none of them have been resolved. None of those economic conditions have been addressed, and they're not about to be addressed in the first Trump term. Trump put sanctions on Iran that prevented any country that bought any Iranian oil from doing business with the United States. That led to a situation where only North Korea was buying Iranian oil and the Chinese Communist Party was buying some Iranian oil through shadow fleets. They were trying to circumvent the sanctions. They were doing it on the sly, but it was a small amount. And then when Biden lifted those sanctions, China signed this 25 year strategic agreement with Iran and purchases about 90% of the oil that Iran ships out, as you said, 80 to 90% of it. And when Trump came into office, he has, he has chosen not to reinstate those sanctions. He's put other sanctions on. But, but reportedly Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Trump did speak about the possibility of reinstating those sanctions somewhat, and it was, I think, deliberately leaked out because the Chinese then responded and basically said, hey, don't do that. But I, look, this regime was on the verge of collapse at the end of the first Trump term. If the 2020 election doesn't get stolen and Trump leaves those sanctions on this regime might not even be here today. Because of sanctions.
Steve Bannon
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Rabbi P.W. Wolicki
And there's a couple other things to look for. Steve, if I could just make your audience a little smart. Ramadan starts tonight and the Iranian people are much more secular than the regime and a lot of them are rejecting Islam. They've been burning mosques during the course of these protests. But the regime enforces Ramadan. They prohibit eating in public, and it's a time that typically could lead to a lot of unrest. Also today and tomorrow, the bizarre shop owners who started all the protests have called for a national strike, including a strike of all the petrochemical workers and all of the trade unions, and also calling for people to potentially come back into the streets. Although there's, of course, a lot of fear of getting gunned down. We could see a lot of unrest in the streets of Iran over the course of the next couple of days with the convergence of these factors here.
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Steve Bannon
I'm gonna have you back on, but let me go. I gotta bounce back. I got one question. Part of the discussion of the three hour meeting in D.C. we now find out, was Bibi making the point to say, look, if you guys don't want to do it, we've gotta have the ability to go it alone. Is there any possibility you could go it alone and not drag the United States in as actual combatant on logistics? I mean, isn't that in that kind of a fantasy? I know you've been a big advocate, probably the leading advocate that you've got to wean off American military assistance and American military hardware because it restricts the Israelis ability to go strike on their own. Is there any real possibility you guys could do it now and not drag the Americans into a kinetic conflict?
Rabbi P.W. Wolicki
Well, I think that defensive help in terms of missile defense is probably necessary. Although Israel has been bolstering its missile defense in preparation for this. I'm not privy enough to know if Israel can handle the missile defense alone, because if the regime senses it's going to collapse, they could unload their, you know, their arsenal of missiles and their ballistic missile capabilities have actually gotten better since the 12 day war. So defensive assistance Israel might need, but here we're not talking about anything where we'd need B2 bombers. This is really about the ballistic missile program and, you know, and slapping down the proxies even harder. I'll also point out that Israel has been hammering Hezbollah over the last couple.
Brendan Steinhauser
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Rabbi P.W. Wolicki
In preparation for keeping them down if there's a kinetic conflict with Iran.
Steve Bannon
Rabbi, can you tell people where to go get your content? You're putting up good videos every day.
Rabbi P.W. Wolicki
Thank you very much. Go to Israel365News YouTube channel, Israel365News YouTube channel and these videos or Israel365, which you see up on your screen now, and you'll see all the videos I'm putting up. They're not regular news videos. They're explanatory videos of what's really going on in the Middle East. Thank you for mentioning that, Steve. Or you could follow me on X, Rabbi P.W. or my author page at the Jerusalem Post, where I am a regular columnist.
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We're going to have you and Mills on it one time. We're going to work this thing out on war Room. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Rabbi. Thank you, sir. Mike Lindell, the next governor of the great state of Minnesota.
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Podcast: Bannon's War Room
Episode: 5149: Trans Epidemic Continues To Lead To Violence; Iran Meeting Kicks Off
Date: February 17, 2026
Host: Steve Bannon
Guests: Matt Mech, Brendan Steinhauser, Sheila Matthews (Able Child), Rabbi P.W. Wolicki
In this episode, Steve Bannon hosts a series of discussions diving deeply into three critical issues:
The conversation features urgent warnings, combative rhetoric, policy advocacy, and a lens of populist conservatism.
"As goes Texas, so goes the nation. And as goes the nation, so goes the world." (00:41)
"They said about May or April of last year, Trump won't even exist in two years. They're serious." (04:32)
"Mustafa Soliman, the head of AI for Microsoft, said...white collar jobs could be automated within 12 to 18 months." (09:20) "...people who run software companies talking about how they are essentially being replaced right now." (09:46)
"They've eviscerated a trillion dollars of value in software companies... the bots and the agents are actually taking over..." (11:33)
"All the Chinese nationals have to leave the labs, have to leave the companies in the United States." (17:00)
"You can follow us on social media at Secure AI now... Secure AI Now.org." (20:08)
"This is human experimentation. We saw this with the Nazis, with Germany. This is a mass psychosis. This is a paper tiger.” (25:38)
"You are not transgender. It's not possible. It is not possible...it's mass psychosis. Nobody’s transgender.” (24:02)
“...ablechild.org...please support us. Oh, there's a petition on our website. Please sign it.” (31:37)
“The United States, of course, does not want Iran to have a nuclear program…from Israel’s perspective…[the] ballistic missile program in Iran…is talked about more as an existential threat to Israel.” (35:46)
“You can't bomb a regime out of existence. You can bomb them, you can weaken them, but…only the Iranian people [can] bring it down.” (41:04)
“If Besant keeps the pressure on the currency and you have the, and you cut off the oil, the Persian people just take it down by themselves and we don’t have to go kinetic.” (46:54)
Steve Bannon:
"This is the primal scream of a dying regime." (00:02)
"As goes Texas, so goes the nation. And as goes the nation, so goes the world." (00:41)
Matt Mech:
"If it doesn’t change... we’re toast." (01:41)
Brendan Steinhauser (AI segment):
"We’re sort of entering that stage...[with] recursive self improvement...AIs are going to basically improve themselves." (13:00)
"There’s really no escape from this unless we do take some pretty drastic measures in terms of looking at this topic more seriously..." (13:00)
Sheila Matthews (Able Child):
"This is about changing humanity the way we see it today. Women and men have been around for 30 over 300,000 years. Okay? This is a cult and it's funded." (25:38)
Rabbi P.W. Wolicki (Iran segment):
"Progress does not mean that an agreement will be reached soon, but the path has started." (34:08)
"You cannot bomb a regime out of existence. You can bomb them, you can weaken them, but in the end of the day, the regime can only fall if the Iranian people bring it down." (41:04)
| Time | Topic/Guest | |----------|----------------| | 00:40 – 04:57 | Election integrity, threats against Trump, grassroots organizing (Matt Mech) | | 05:20 – 20:24 | Artificial intelligence: job losses, economic threat, national security, legislative solutions (Brendan Steinhauser) | | 20:24 – 33:14 | Transgender issues, violent incident in Canada, mental health critique, government/medical policy (Sheila Matthews, Able Child) | | 34:08 – 51:31 | US-Iran negotiations, Israeli perspective, sanctions, Middle East military buildup (Rabbi P.W. Wolicki) |