Episode 5163: Mexico Falls Into Chaos After Execution Of Cartel Kingpin

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Bannon’s War Room
Episode: 5163: Mexico Falls Into Chaos After Execution Of Cartel Kingpin
Date: February 23, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guests: Erik Prince, Art Del Cueto, Oscar Blue Ramirez, Tom Homan, David ‘Nino’ Rodriguez, Mike Lindell, Ben Berkwam

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Episode Overview

This episode of Bannon’s War Room focuses on the immediate and explosive fallout in Mexico following the reported execution of a major cartel leader (widely implied to be "El Mencho"), the implications for American citizens and border security, and broader reflections on U.S. policy, media narratives, and the Trump administration’s immigration stance. The show features live updates, expert analysis, and emotional testimony from those affected by both cartel violence and U.S. government responses.

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1. The Trump Administration and the Border Crisis

Timestamps: 00:00–04:29

• Stephen K. Bannon opens the show reflecting on President Trump’s distinctive approach to the border crisis starting in 2015, contrasting Trump's engagement with affected families—“angel families”—against the indifference of “the political culture in Washington.”
• Bannon emphasizes the importance of media figures like Ben Berkwam and Oscar Blue Ramirez who have covered angel families and cartel violence, arguing that only Trump made their stories central to national discussion.
• Bannon recounts the infamous Trump escalator speech:

  “When he talked about the rapists, he talked about the murders. What was he talking about? The angel families… The political culture… was outraged that somebody had sat there and told the truth to the American people.” (A, 02:21)

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2. Explosive Cartel Violence in Mexico & U.S. Intelligence Involvement

Timestamps: 04:29–11:51

• Erik Prince calls out current chaos in Mexico as a chilling lesson in lawlessness, linking it to failed border policies and comparing it with the breakdown in Haiti after years of corruption and neglect.

  “If we want cartel explosions like in Mexico, or ... the complete meltdown of a society in Haiti, then keep allowing laws to be ignored.” (B, 04:32)

• Bannon and Prince blame U.S. aid programs for empowering NGOs benefiting from illegal migration, praising Trump’s liquidation of USAID.
• Bannon presses Prince about rumors of U.S. involvement in the strike against the cartel kingpin:

  “There’s now open discussion about how this was a joint… intelligence team... called Cartel Control that provided targeting.” (A, 09:18)

• Prince suggests U.S. intelligence support was crucial but suspects the actual operation was executed by a vetted Mexican military unit:

  “Unlikely that there was US guys... all the way to the doorstep... but certainly helped them with the find and fix part...” (B, 10:13)

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3. Firsthand Updates: Americans Trapped, Cartel Retaliation, New Power Dynamics

Timestamps: 17:21–22:37

• Art Del Cueto (Border Patrol veteran, FAIR advisor) reports that American tourists are stranded in key resort town Puerto Vallarta as airports shut due to violence. Cartel forces are burning businesses, blocking roads, and warning of further chaos.

  “They burnt down banks, they burnt down the Costco, various other supermarkets... destroyed the roads...” (C, 18:27)

• A new cartel figure, “El Yo Gurt”, proclaims succession, raising fears of more infighting (“inner wars”) and sending waves of cartel operatives fleeing north:

  “We need to reinforce our borders... the individuals... may try to escape Mexico and come into the United States.” (C, 19:55)

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4. Mexican Military and U.S. Collaboration

Timestamps: 20:35–22:50

• Oscar Blue Ramirez (Live from Mexico) elaborates on the severity of the security crisis:

  “Tijuana is a ghost town right now... The head of Sedena, the military, was in tears... an operation that needed to be done... collaboration with American intelligence.” (D, 21:23)

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5. U.S. Angel Families, Media Bias & Political Obstacles

Timestamps: 23:06–27:52

• Ben Berkwam introduces Tom Homan (former ICE director), who argues that family separation by illegal alien criminals receives little media attention compared to the debate about border separations.

  “This is family separation... It doesn’t make sense to release a public safety threat back to reapply, take lives of these children.” (F, 23:35)

• Both Berkwam and Homan criticize mainstream media for painting illegal aliens as victims while ignoring stories of Americans, especially children, killed by criminals who entered the country illegally.

  “The media is out there portraying the illegal aliens as the good guys and American citizens... as the bad guys.” (A/B, 25:14)
  “Men and women of ICE are trying to prevent this stuff from happening, and we’re gonna keep on doing it. God bless us.” (F, 25:45)

• The deeply personal story of Laura Wilkerson (mother of a murdered son) is revisited, emphasizing the emotional stakes and the narrative often left untold by major outlets.

  “…her son… had been beaten, tortured... burned alive and then thrown... in a trash bin. People were shocked… The first time people heard their voices.” (A, 27:52)

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6. Border Towns on Edge: El Paso & Juarez

Timestamps: 30:02–35:26

• David ‘Nino’ Rodriguez (El Paso-based podcaster) stresses the gravity of cartel power post-killing, likening the situation to open warfare:

  “This is war with Mexico... the cartels own and control every element of Mexico... and this will bleed into America.” (G, 30:02)

• He warns the violence could spread, with intent to “make Trump look as ugly as possible… mow down schools… kill innocent civilians…”
• Juarez, a massive city across from El Paso, is described as tense, dangerous, and waiting for events to escalate.

  “Let’s just put it this way. I haven’t been to Juarez in 10 years. The last time I was there, I had a gun to my head. And that’s a true story.” (G, 31:52)

• Rodriguez claims recent cartel movements and U.S. intelligence involvement represent a shift to “preemptive strike” strategy to prevent further violence on U.S. soil.

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7. Political and Policy Takeaways

Timestamps: 36:33–39:24

• Mike Lindell (entrepreneur and political candidate in Minnesota) highlights the frustration among some politicians and taxpayers over the high costs of incarcerating illegal immigrants in U.S. prisons.

  “We have... over 900 prisoners here that are illegals... $110 million we’re paying to house the worst of the worst in our prisons... It’s disgusting.” (E, 36:33)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Bannon on the Trump Moment:

  “The media was outraged... that somebody had sat there and told the truth to the American people.” (A, 02:21)

• Erik Prince on Lawlessness:

  “If we want cartel explosions like in Mexico, or... the complete meltdown of a society in Haiti, then keep allowing laws to be ignored.” (B, 04:32)

• Art Del Cueto on Puerto Vallarta:

  “I just got word... airports are closed again... planes are once again grounded. They didn’t even get a single plane off the ground.” (C, 18:27)

• Oscar Blue Ramirez on Ghost Towns:

  “Tijuana is a ghost town right now... businesses are closing... the cartel is... terrorizing the citizens.” (D, 21:06)

• David ‘Nino’ Rodriguez on War in Mexico:

  “We are at war with Mexico... the cartels own and control every element... This will bleed into America.” (G, 30:02)

• Mike Lindell on Costs to Minnesota:

  “$110 million we’re paying to house the worst of the worst in our prisons... Can you think you could let ICE come and pick them up and get them out of our country?” (E, 37:46)

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Key Segments & Timestamps

• 00:00–04:29 – Trump’s unique approach; early campaign; media outrage.
• 04:29–11:51 – Erik Prince: cartel chaos as warning; U.S. intelligence role; Haiti/U.S.AID critique.
• 17:21–22:37 – Art Del Cueto and Oscar Blue Ramirez: live updates, airports closed, cities on lockdown.
• 23:06–27:52 – Tom Homan and Ben Berkwam: ICE, “angel families,” media misrepresentation.
• 30:02–35:26 – David ‘Nino’ Rodriguez: escalation, warnings to Americans, real nature of cartel violence.
• 36:33–39:24 – Mike Lindell: U.S. prison costs for illegal immigrants; criticism of political inaction.

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Tone and Language

• The tone is urgent, emotive, and combative, casting President Trump as uniquely honest and the current crisis as a result of failed policies and media dishonesty.
• There’s consistent emphasis on first-person testimony, “ground truth,” and moral clarity in the face of institutional resistance.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a must-listen for those seeking firsthand perspectives on the chaos unleashed in Mexico after a cartel kingpin’s killing. It packs together real-time updates, border law enforcement analysis, and unfiltered critiques of U.S. policy and media. The show’s core message is that cartel violence is now a national security crisis for both Mexico and the United States, with Americans directly endangered and with urgent calls for strong, unprecedented federal action. Throughout, the personal costs—to families, law enforcement, and ordinary citizens—are foregrounded, pushing listeners to consider whether the political and media establishments are truly listening.

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Transcript

[A]

This come about, I want to take a second. It's very important because I right there, I think you're seeing President Trump at his best. Look at President Trump leaving, going back to work. Back in 2015, when President Trump first started running, it was only Breitbart that covered this, the great Tony Lee and Matt Boyle, and particularly a guy you might not have heard about too much or Brandon Darby. We launched Breitbart Texas to focus on this as the issue of the open borders, the cartels, the what was happening to Hispanic American community, particularly in places like the Rio Grande Valley. You ever heard us talk about the Rio Grande Valley with Cortez? And remember 22, this all comes back to 2015. No Republican politician would meet with these people. It was only Trump, because Trump was not a politician. He's a businessman. And when he met with them, those families, they just poured out their heart and he listened to all of it because he's not a politician. That was the difference. This is what Trump remember with all those people running and all those, the Bushes and all that, all that, that whole apparatus, all 16 of them wouldn't meet with them. I think a couple of them met with him. After Trump tried to do it for political reasons. President Trump came at this totally different. And you see right now, Ben Berkwam's not there as a media person. Ben Berkwom's there as an honored guest invited by the families and President Trump's team. Why Ben Berkwam has done, you know, at Real America's Voice has covered the angel families and covered their trials and tribulations and covered the fact that nobody wanted to do anything about it. No Republicans wanted to do anything about it. That's the difference in Trump. And that's, I think today you saw the. And if we went through the stories in detail, you couldn't handle it. You couldn't handle the torture, you couldn't handle the murders, you couldn't handle the viciousness. Like Oscar Blue Ramirez reports every day what's happening down there right now. These are vicious, vicious people. And the people come across here, the criminals that come across here are vicious people. Let me go. We're going to blow a break. I want to thank Riddle Merck's voice. Erik Prince, you were there with us in 2015. You remember President Trump's the only one, first person ever when the time he came down the golden escalator on that very first time was it June 17th of 2015. And he talked about it right there, the wall. He talked about the invasion of the country, the same thing we're dealing with today. And people were shocked. Remember cnn, Don Lemon? They went crazy that night. They went crazy. When he talked about the rapists, he talked about the murders. What was he talking about? The angel families. He was talking about what these people had suffered. And they were outraged. The media was outraged. The political culture in Washington, D.C. of which the Republican Party is a major part of, was outraged that somebody had sat there and told the truth to the American people. That's why I think he was in sixth or seventh place when he came down the escalator. He went to first that night in a flash pole and never looked back. Why? The American people sat there and go, hey, this guy's telling me the truth. He's giving me information I haven't heard before, but I know that something's deeply wrong. Erik Prince, your thoughts about today. And then back then, if Trump was the only one that would address this, others, I think marginally try to come up, but nobody made the Angel Moms a central part. Trump made it a central part of the campaign and demanded they have a role at the convention when even then, after Trump had won, because they tried to take it away from him. Cruz and these people tried to take it away and steal it at the 2016 convention. We covered it nonstop when I was running Breitbart. They tried to steal it then. And one of the things they're outraged about in the business community, the same people in Texas today, they're looking the other way in this Islamic invasion because they can make money. They didn't want to do it. They thought it was too. You're going to lose the suburban moms because you're going to come across as xenophobic. You're going to come across as hell with you. You stand with the American people. They'll support you. Erik Prince, thank you for doing this and thank you for hanging around. Your thoughts, sir?

[B]

Well, Steve, you know what we're seeing in Mexico yesterday with an explosion of cartel violence. You know, Trump is right to take on the immigration issue to say we're going to deport the illegals. We're especially going to go after the criminal illegals that have been killing and looting and wrecking the country. We're working in Haiti right now, which is at the far end of the spectrum of what this defund the police embracing of lawlessness will get you. And so if we want cartel explosions like in Mexico, or you want the. The extreme, the complete meltdown of a society in Haiti, then Keep allowing laws to be ignored. And, but, but hang on, hang on.

[A]

I, I don't talk a lot about this, about the personal, of how I even came about, but Haiti's a perfect example. I, why was I selected to step into the campaign and becoming a CEO? I'd never run a campaign in my life. It was because we were experts at Breitbart on banging up the Clintons, and particularly Peter Schweitzer. I was chairman of Government Accountability. We'd just done this big project called Clinton Cash. What was it about? How the Clintons had stolen all the money out of Haiti, how the Clintons in the Democratic apparatus and all these do gooders had sat there and used Haiti as an example to say the world, oh, this is so terrible. Poverty got earthquakes, got all this hurricanes and they had looted the cash. What you're seeing today is the payback for the looting of Clinton because they don't care. What they want is illegal aliens that come in the country and then put them on big social programs to get them to vote Democratic. They don't care about the carnage they leave behind. And Haiti is a perfect example. They didn't care about the Haitian people. The Haitian people were just a means to an end for them to get more money. And you saw how they left it. They turned it over to barbecue and the gangs. And now today, what, 10, 12 years later, it's a, it's a hellhole. It's a bigger hellhole than it was then. It's ten times worse, Eric. And you've seen this up close. This is what these do gooders do. Trump stepped in and said, hey, here's what we're going to do. He gave the American common sense and they hate him for it. This is one of the most central reasons why they hate him. You saw, you saw there today. He says, how can the media be against us? How can politicians be against this? How could they be fighting up in the streets of Minneapolis to keep the bad hombres there to protect them? It's the same reason they looted Haiti. They use all these, these people are a means to an end for them to concentrate wealth and power. And if the American people have to suffer or the Haitian people have to suffer, are the common man and woman in Mexico has to suffer, then that's just tough because, you know, those people don't have any power. Erik Prince,

[B]

what you saw in Haiti 10, 12, 15 years ago with the earthquakes, with the hurricane, was a big fundraising effort. And the Clintons looted a lot of that. They left the Place undoubtedly worse. And with all that aid money, it's basically, it was like watering weeds and it reinforced all the negative aspects of that society. What you saw in Mexico yesterday is a cartel explosion. It is a government that's allowed the criminal class to basically overmatch law enforcement. When you take out a gang leader and the gangs respond by locking down large parts of the city, including thousands of Americans that are stuck there, taking over an international airport, it's allowing lawlessness and chaos. What you're seeing the early stages of is the lawlessness and chaos allowing tens of millions of people to have come across the border over the past few decades and especially over the Biden administration. And they're trying to protect that. The people that are paying for those kind of protests are undoubtedly on the take from the aid money that goes to those migrants. The Trump administration was brilliant to liquidate USAID at the beginning of the Trump administration because that money was used to foment more illegal migration and more nonsense. And the overhead, the money that was appropriate, I think it was like 42, $43 billion. Almost all of that was washed through US based NGOs that just paid for more leftist Do Gooder, Do Gooder without actually doing much of anything effective in the field. Where.

[A]

Let me, let me, let me get your thinking. In the short time I've got of you, for you or available, there is this talk you've been, you've been a strong advocate of take the torch to the enemy down there, of interdiction. If the corrupt and incompetent Mexican government's going to do it, then we're going to have to do it yesterday. There's now open discussion about how this was a joint internally, the United States on every different command, an intelligence team put together called Cartel Control that provided targeting. At least all the mainstream media reported that the Mexican military led this effort. Well, do you believe that Delta Force and other beyond even intelligence was involved in this strike?

[B]

What we do know, Steve, is that there's been a lot more US military aircraft traffic along the Mexican coast. And watching some of those areas rivet joint aircraft, which is a big electronic intelligence, it's going to vacuum up pretty much every, every radio or TV or Internet transmission in an area. So they're definitely been building an intelligence picture in the same way that the pattern of life, the bed down location of Nicolas Maduro was down to the square meter. I would say that kind of firing solution and information, intelligence has been gathered on a lot of these cartel leaders. I'm sure that was passed to some vetted Mexican unit. Unlikely that there was US guys that went with them all the way to the doorstep of the objective, but certainly that helped them with the find and fix part, which is often the hardest part. And the finish was left to a trained Mexican unit because there are Mexican patriots that love their country. But for the rank and file, it's a terrible, terrible position to be in. If you're a state or a local law enforcement officer in Mexico that as soon as you get in the job you're visited by some, some agent of the cartel and they say plato y plomo Silver or lead. Take our silver. We're going to pay you or we're going to give you lead and we're going to kill you and we're going to kill your family and we're going to kill them ugly in front of your eyes. That's what you know. The role of the Mexican government is to put that to an end. And if they need some help from the usg, it is absolutely in our strategic interest to do so. And it can be done through a lot of intel sharing, advisory training. It does not have to be done by Americans. Now they're doing it.

[A]

Eric, where do people go to follow you on your because whether it's been Iran or it's been this cartel war in Mexico, you've been someone that people have listened to at the highest levels. Where do people go?

[B]

I post on on X pretty regularly at Real Eric D prints.

[A]

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[C]

Well, absolutely. Look, there's. Thank you for having me. We go way back. You were talking about way back during the campaign. I remember many, many years ago, we met at Trump Towers in New York City. I believe that was back in 2015. So we do go way back and just over two decades with the United States Border Patrol. There's a lot of back and forth going on in Mexico. Unfortunately, you're going to get a lot of stories that come out, some true, some not true. But what is circulating right now is there is a video that was put out by an individual named Abraham Kano Ambriz. He goes by the name of El Yo Gurt, which means the yogurt. And apparently he is gonna be the successor over to El Mencho. He's gonna be taking over the cartel. He put out a video explaining to people that he was in charge. He's not afraid to show his face on and on. We're gonna wait and see if that pans out. But I think the big concern is the American citizens that are stuck in the United States. Some of the planes, I'm getting word that some of the plane that the air today.

[A]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hang on. Art, Art, Art. You mean American citizens that are in stuck in Mexico, not the United States. American citizens stuck in Mexico. Correct.

[C]

Mexico. Yeah, Correct. Puerto Vallarta is a big tourist, you know, attraction. A lot of people go down there for vacation. They opened the airports today. They were going to allow flights out of there again, but I just got word that they have closed them down again. So planes are once again grounded. They didn't even get a single plane off the ground, to be honest. And I think that's the major concern, is we have American citizens that are stuck in this war zone, you would say, where the cartel has taken over various parts of the cities. They burnt down banks, they burnt down the Costco, various other supermarkets, they burned down the Walmart, and they were able to acquire some bulldozers. And they went to the main roads outside the city of Puerto Vallarta and they destroyed the roads where with bulldozers, they lifted the pavement and made sure that no vehicles can enter or come out. So it is going to be quite a mess. Also being reported is that the body of El Mencho has been transported to Mexico City. So Mexico City is also in high alert as well as many other cities in the United States. In Mexico now, one of the big concerns, cuz I've seen this many times before when a lot of these drug lords get, you know, taken out and somebody else takes control is those that were very loyal to him or will try to escape. So I think we need to reinforce our borders even more so now because we're going to have some of those individuals that are part of El Mencho cartel that maybe do not get along with the new leadership or there's infighting within the new leadership that are going to try to escape Mexico and come into the United States. So that should be a very, very huge concern for the America, for America and for our borders as well.

[A]

Now, all right, word of people, we'll get you back up this afternoon or tomorrow because we're covering this nonstop as usual. Where do people go on your content to follow you?

[C]

So I am on X. I am on X on Art del Cueto Az. I'm also on Instagram. I post a lot on Instagram at the real Artel Cueto. I'm on Facebook. I'm on every single one. I'm also trying to push a new YouTube channel called Five Strands with Artel Cueto so people can follow me for content there as well.

[A]

Perfect, Art. Thank you. Thank you for sticking around.

[C]

Thank you, Steve.

[A]

Oscar Blue Ramirez. I know you gotta bounce. Also, give us the latest. This concern now is that with new leadership stepping up in the cartel, they're gonna try to take on the Mexican army and this war is gonna expand throughout Mexico and get more vicious. Your thoughts?

[D]

Well, we talked about it, Steve. When the border was secured. I told you this and we said this on the war room. Inner wars were going to start. The unstableness of Melakiko was going to demonstrate. This is what is actually happening. Now let's see what how the federal government, it is going to come and protect the Mexican citizens and also the international citizens, not only American citizens that we do have a huge presence on tourist areas, but like Tijuana, it is one of the most transit cities in the world in terms to coming back and forth where American citizens, we got hundreds of thousands of them that they are concerned right now. The whole city right now. Steve, let me tell you, Tijuana is a ghost town right now. Businesses are closing. At six o' clock in the evening. There was a post on social media, on Facebook that it was threatening the citizens of Tijuana and also American citizens that they were going to start shooting at civilians after 10 o' clock at night. That was considered a fake post, but it is also threatening to citizens that they the power of the cartel of how they're showing it to just basically terrorize the citizens of Tijuana and terrorize the citizens of Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Michoacan in places that they have a lot of presence. The federal government had just gave out a statement right now in the, in the morning conference, the head of Sedena, the military was in tears to say that there were fallen soldiers on this operation and that it was an operation that needed to be done and that demonstrated the force of the state in collaboration with the intelligence of the American government. That is the one of the most important things that it needs to be addressed. It is that the head of the military of Mexico have said that there's collaboration with the American intelligence to execute this mission. That it was perfectly done, almost perfectly done in the central parts of the country.

[A]

Oscar, I know you got to get on the road. We got to bounce. Where do people go to get your reporting? 247 on this?

[D]

Oscar Ramirez, TJ on X. You also can get me all around Oscar Blue Ramirez, of course, Real America's Voice News and also follow RAV in Spanish, RAB and Espanol over there. We're doing also the reports in Spanish of this current event.

[A]

Steve, thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Let's now return to the White House. We got Ben Berkwam and we have a very honored guest. He's with Tom Homan. Ben Berkwam, I'm so proud of the fact you were invited as a guest and not as a newsman today. Take it away. And let's hear from Tom Holman.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Thank you, Steve. Absolute honor. I got to wear my ICE hat. We in America say God bless ice, the people. Everyone who puts on that uniform and goes out to work and put their life on the line every single day. That's who we want to honor. We want to honor the angel families, the American citizens, the law abiding American citizens, not the criminal illegal aliens and the people that are trying to obstruct the work of ice. And there's no greater person than that than Tom Holman. It's an honor to be here with you, sir. What, what is, what's your message from today to the American people?

[F]

A couple of things. And the reason why I fight so hard I came back on two times. This is number one reason, Agent family is that no one tells your story. So I'm looking forward to you, Steve. Donald. Talk about family separation. Family separation of President Trump. This is family separation. There a mesh of sanctuary cities. It doesn't make sense to release a public safety threat back in the public to reapply take lives of these children. I mean, I don't understand sanctuary. This is the reason why you have to have cooperation with the jails, with these bad guys. Another reason why we have a mass deportation. It's just not criminal hearings.

[B]

That's right.

[F]

Some had no privilege. So that's why we, we need historic deportation operation, because we just saw historic illegal immigration crisis on the border. So match historic with historic magic. We're going to get the American people but tell the stories of these families.

[B]

Amen.

[A]

Hey, Ben, we've got to jump. Yeah.

[D]

Ben.

[A]

What? Just one more question, quick. It was heart rendering to see. It was heart rendering to see the president sit there going. I don't know how people understand this. Can you just ask Tom about that? About why the media and Democrats don't understand.

[B]

Talk to us about what the President said about how he doesn't understand how the, the media. Oh, I'm going with Thomas.

[F]

I think I get Mr. Hellman. Right.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Sir, you're going this way. We're heading for the exit. Thank you so much.

[B]

Okay, real quick then, Tom. President Trump saying the media doesn't understand. He doesn't understand how the media doesn't get this. How the media is out there portraying the illegal aliens as the good guys and American citizens in particular.

[F]

Angel families attacking the President. They're attacking the Secretary, attacking me. They're attacking men and women, ICE in the border patrol who are trying to arrest people who murder children of the United States citizens. Right. That's a big part of what we do. So they want to keep vilifying ice. Meanwhile, no talk about the criminal enemies that murder these children and cause these parents to bury their children. Men and women of ICE are trying to prevent this stuff from happening, and we're gonna keep on doing it. God bless us. God bless the Lord.

[B]

Amen. God bless you. I'll see you on the other side. Tom Holman, everyone.

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Steve, Ben Buran. I want to go to you because I don't think I've seen a more touching ceremony than today. I mean, you've been with the angel moms, but President Trump, I mean, that was heart rendering. He's sitting there going, I don't understand it. I don't understand how the media continues to attack and how these mayors and governors defend the worst of the worst and don't allow American ICE working with law enforcement to extract them. And you've got these stories of the. You've got these stories of the families that sit there and talk to you about the brutal murders, the torture that many of these people went through before they were murdered. That, to me, was one of the most powerful ceremonies I've ever seen at the White House ever.

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Yeah.

[B]

No, it truly is. When you talk about the American citizens that have been murdered and the moms that have to live with this every single day while in. In your case, the illegal alien is still on the run, it's just absolutely outrageous when you hear Laura Wilkerson talk about her son being tied up hog tied and lit on fire, strangled and lit on fire. And the media, the mainstream media is silent. It is disgusting. They're out there marching for illegal aliens. They're out there attacking ICE when we are called. The American people voted for this. They want these people arrested. They want them deported. And as Tom said, not just the criminals, they want all of them. These are the stories the moms that we should be telling. It's an absolute honor.

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Yeah, keep Laura right there. I wanna. I wanna talk to her for a second. If you can repeat this. Is she there?

[B]

Okay.

[F]

Okay, okay.

[B]

Okay, guys, I gotta jump. Steve.

[A]

That's okay.

[B]

On the other end.

[A]

That's okay. Ben. Good, good reporting. Laura Wilkinson, let me tell you the story there. I think it was on Breitbart News Radio on Sirius xm, because we had done an article about it. When she came on her story about, I think her son's name, Joshua, he had been beaten, tortured, I think. Then they burned his body. And I Believe he was still alive when they burned him alive and then threw, I believe, the body in one of these huge trash bins. People were shocked when she came on. The people in the SiriusXM of the day when we ran Breitbart News was more of a call insure. I had guests, but we took a lot of callers, just the format and the audience was stunned. It was the first time that these stories started coming out. We had written a bunch of them at Breitbart, the great Tony Lee and Brandon Darby and Matt Boyle. But this is the first time people heard their voices. Let me repeat. Only Donald Trump would meet with them. It was this, think about it, this topic, this evidence was there. The border had been open and people were flooding into the country, including bad

[B]

hombres

[A]

and going after people in places like Texas and Oklahoma and Arkansas, although that's where we came up with this saying that every town's a border town and every state's a border state and nobody would touch it except for Trump and the Republican moneyed class and donor class hated it when he did this, Hated it when he was able to elevate the story of people like Laura Wilkinson. David Nino Rodriguez. Sir, you live in one of the tips of the spear. If anybody saw the movie Sicario is about El Paso, Texas, you were there, sir, and you have one of the biggest podcasts in the state of Texas, in the country. You've got a better feel for the cartels than anybody. What is going to happen as you see it right now, particularly El Paso. And if you have not seen the movie Sicario, you should see it, because the El Paso community and the northern Mexico community right north of it is like the Old west, sir.

[G]

Absolutely. And what people really need to understand right now is that this is war with Mexico. This is not just some bad, bad hombre gangs that we're fighting against. This is now war with Mexico. When you understand the cartels own and control every element of Mexico. We are at war with Mexico. And, you know, to see this playing out, I've been seeing that, I've been watching this now for the last year, the heavy artillery being moved up to the border, watching this, getting a bird's eye view, front lines, I can only tell you that I knew what was coming. And on my show, at least for the last few hundred shows, I've been saying, do not go to Mexico. Americans, Canadians, do not go to Mexico. This is about to kick off. I don't know when, but it's going to kick off. And now it has kicked off. And you can expect this to last for a long while because the cartel's objective now will be. If you're looking at this as strategy will be to muddy Trump's face, make this as ugly as possible, kill innocent civilians, mow down schools. This will bleed into America. You better believe it right now. Juarez, see that? Juarez is kind of. It's like the calm before the storm. You know, different cartels control different sectors of Mexico. So we are anticipating something coming very soon. This is going to get ugly, very ugly. It's already ugly now, but it's going to get worse.

[A]

A couple of things. Let's start with the. No, I think people failed to understand the scale Juarez, which is really the Mexican part of El Paso because it's right there. How big is Juarez right now? People think it's a sleepy border town that people go over like in the old days of Tijuana, have a beer, you know, hear some music and come back. Nothing can be farther from the truth. How big is Juarez and how dangerous is Juarez?

[G]

Let's just put it this way. I haven't been to Juarez in 10 years. The last time I was there, I had a gun to my head. And that's a true story. So because I didn't tip the waiter, you know, it was crazy. Juarez is about a couple million people. I would say 2 to 3. You know, estimates at 2, 2.5. Some say 3. It's a big city. A lot of them are fed up there, too. I know people on that side of the border, they're fed up with the, you know, immigrants coming into Juarez. And they're just waiting right now. They're waiting right now for 20, 28. They're trying to wait it out. Trump gets out of office and then it'll be Biden 2.0. That's what they're waiting for.

[F]

The.

[G]

There's still immigrants up there waiting, just taking their time, really confident in the fact that they're going to cross in 2028. Like I said, right now, it's a calm before the storm. Everyone's just waiting. Everyone's on pins and needles right now.

[A]

Nino, why was this different? Sam Faddis started this off this morning by saying, hey, we've been trying to do the law enforcement model, but you saw kinetic military activity with an American at a minimum, major intelligence component. We're hearing rumors might even been a part of Delta Force or some, some CIA paramilitary in there. Because all the stories saying the Mexican military led the operation, it didn't say that they did the operation. Totally. Your thoughts on that?

[G]

100%. You know, the Mexican military combined with our intelligence. But here's what it is. The reality is people need to understand is this takeover of America, the immigrants coming in was completely engineered. This was, this was to be an operation to be activated, immigrants to be activated in America at a certain time. So we are taking the fight. Trump is taking the fight to them first, and now they're on the defense. So I think, I believe he's. It's a preemptive strike before they could hit America. And now they're reeling back and having to fight against us. I think in my personal belief, I think this is going to be fast and quick. I think it's going to be ugly for a while, but I believe that they're going to go in, do the job, and I bet you they still have the World cup in Mexico.

[A]

Art, Art Da Cuaito from the border patrol spent 20 years there. He's now an advisor to FAIR. His concern is one the tourists caught in these huge resorts about them getting out and anything the cartels could do. Also, he's concerned about cartel striking back, specifically in places like El Paso, Texas. Your thoughts?

[G]

Well, El Paso, you know, you don't go to the bathroom where you eat, right? So El Paso, a lot of them are here. And, and you know, we've all, even with the wars that raged in Juarez, we didn't see much, much bleed over until El Paso. El Paso is still a very relative, safe city. I believe the tourists are in danger. I've said this, I've given travel advisories on my show many times. Don't go there. Do not go there. It's about to kick off. So now the cartels, like I said, they don't fight fair. This is a different type of guerrilla warfare. They will kill innocents, they will take hostages. They do not care. They're going to make Trump look as bad as possible, especially if they're fighting for survival and especially if they know that this is the end of them. They're going to take hostages, they're going to go no holds barred. And this is going to be the ugliest thing you've ever seen in your life. The ugliest warfare you've ever seen is cartel warfare.

[A]

Nino, where do people get your podcast, where they get you on social media?

[G]

Nino Boxer on X. It's just Nino, Nino Boxer on X and then Nino's Corner TV and then Nino's Corner on YouTube.

[A]

Thank you, sir. Look forward to having you back. On tomorrow getting an update.

[G]

God bless you.

[A]

A guy that knows the board have been warning about a President Trump. They dropped a hammer yesterday and what nino's I think accurate. These cartels are not human about how they fight. In fact they want you saw on the Angel Moms so many of these were cartel actors. In fact that horrible story about the border patrol officer that was gunned down in front of his family right in cold blood. That's how they live and die. Mike Lindell, a magnificent day at the White House with the Angel Moms. President Trump at his best. It was heart rendering to sit there and see the president saying hey, I don't know how the media, I don't know how these politicians talking specifically mentioned Fry. How people in Minneapolis cannot want ICE to come in and get the bad hombres. How they cannot sit there and want the criminal class to be removed. And it was quite heart rendering seeing the president really I think in a very open moment saying we have to get these people out. And yet I'm fought by the wallses, I'm fought by the fries. Your thoughts are yeah.

[E]

And Steve, it's even worse than that we have in Minnesota. It's like I think it's over 900 prisoners we have here that are illegals that we're paying $85,000 a year as Minnesota taxpayers. It comes to $110 million we're paying to house the worst of the worst in our prisons. Well, can you think you could let ICE come and pick them up and get them out of our country and go back to be put their prison time in their own country? Steve, it's so you can't even wrap your head around this as someone like Fry. I mean you're either in on it or there's, there's alternative motives here. I don't know what it is but it's disgusting. And we're, we're going to get to the bottom of when I'm, when I'm governor. You guys can check it out. Mike Lindalegov.com It's Mike Lindellgov.com I need your help. We're all in right now. We're going all in with our own investigation, our own things we're doing, bringing this out to the forefront like, like these illegals that are in our prisons here. I mean start there, that's pretty low hanging fruit. That doesn't even count the ones that are in the jails and but yeah, Steve, it's disgusting.

[A]

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We'll see you this afternoon, Mike. Let's everybody hit it. Charlie Kirk show follows Andrew Colvette. One of the most impressive events and ceremonies at the White House state. Just unbelievable. I'm Ben Berkwan. We'll get him back up at five to talk about it. We'll see you at five o'.

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