
Episode 5175: More Deportations Of Illegal Voters; Stopping CCP Interference In US Elections ...
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Stephen K. Bannon
Sensible Wisconsin Midwestern patriots demand law and order and immigration control. Let me show you in the latest numbers my polling from the Badger State, we asked Wisconsin citizens should state and local police fully cooperate with federal law enforcement on immigration. By a plus 23% margin, Wisconsin citizens say yes. Among Hispanics, plus 29%. We then describe the current Trump policy of offering generous cash incentives to, to illegals who will self deport. If they don't take us up on the offer, they are subject to deportation by plus 24%. Wisconsin citizens believe in this policy. Hispanics plus 42%. We also asked Wisconsin citizens if they want to imitate next door Minnesota when it comes to immigration policy. And they don't want to follow that radicalism. Only 27% want to be like Minnesota. Only 28% of Catholics in Wisconsin, which is a deeply Catholic swing state. So the verdict is clearly in. We're going to protect our wages, our street safety and our national security. And this is a consensus opinion in a key swing state.
Steve Bannon
Okay, we've got all this, we have all these primaries coming up. And Cortez, this is so powerful because it's Wisconsin. It's not like Texas or, or Arizona. And people seem to have forgotten this is still central. And you see up in Wisconsin, you had the governor of Wisconsin on the other day and they catch him in the, I think the Capitol, and he's sitting there going, Trump. And these people are in the deportation people are. If you actually had enforcement of our immigration laws, the economy of Wisconsin would collapse. I mean, he said it like three times. He's adamant about this. Your data, the reason I love these polls, you're showing that the American people are paying attention to what's important. It may not be in the headlines every day and we need to reinforce that. I can tell you down here the situation with Sharia law, it was right below the surface. We gave her permission structure to talk about it. This is what people are talking about now. It's motivating people to go to the polls. The same with the H1B visas. So what's the lesson you're deriving from this information? Particularly when you've got the governor out there saying the exact opposite and saying the economy will collapse. Trump doesn't know what he's talking about, sir.
Stephen K. Bannon
No, ridiculous. By the way, real incomes have risen every single month that President Trump is in office. The that's in part because of sound economic policies. But I think the primary driver is about two and a half million illegals leaving this country, most of whom were competing in the labor market unjustly, unfairly against American citizen laborers. You take them away. Guess what? Wages for citizens go up. Wages for blue collar systems go up even more than the overall trend in Wisconsin. And everywhere, thankfully, Governor Evers is leaving office. He is retiring. We're going to have a wide open race to replace him. On the Republican side, it's Tom Tiffany who takes immigration enforcement seriously, thankfully. And the people of Wisconsin overwhelmingly agree with him, including, by the way, Hispanic citizens. And I'd also point out, Steve, regarding this poll, you know I do my polling rigorously and scientifically. This was not a great poll for Republicans overall. The economic numbers, frankly, were pretty dismal. So I was by no means using a sample where I was putting my thumb on the scale. But, but on immigration, the people's will is clear and particularly when the Trump policies explained to them. I think that's maybe the key finding that I learned is that a lot of Americans don't realize that generous cash incentives have been offered to every single illegal alien. We will literally put money in your pocket, pay for the flight home. You may legally apply later. That's an incredibly magnanimous and generous offer from the American people to a lot of folks who have trespassed, who've broken entered into our homeland. When that is explained to people that that's the policy. And if you don't take us up on the generous offer, you then get deported. The support is overwhelming among Hispanics, as I pointed out there, plus 42% margin in favor of that Trump policy. By the way, when that's explained even to Kamala Harris voters. Let me give you the data here. Even among Kamala Harris voters, 28% actually support the Trump policy if it's explained to them. 28%, a third almost of Kamala Harris voters in Wisconsin. And I also put that, speaking of that same number, 28%. The reason I mentioned the Catholic part there, I think that's very relevant just today because of course we know that the Conference of Catholic Bishops unfortunately issued an amicus briefing before the Supreme Court weighing in on birthright citizenship, something that the Church has no standing to even talk about, has never talked about in Europe. All of the Catholic countries of Europe do not have birth, birthright citizenship. Few countries in the world have it. So the faithful in Wisconsin are clearly in step with the America first vision on immigration and not with Catholic leadership vision on this very key issue. So this remains a winning issue if you ask the questions in a fair and objective manner. A super majority of Americans are in favor of rigorous immigration enforcement.
Steve Bannon
Okay. Given the debacle in Virginia, it looks like Spambergers will be able to drive through unless there's some amazing rear guard action takes place a 10 to 1 in Virginia. Those counties, Rio Grande Valley in South Texas that you fought so hard for are really the first person to come up and say, hey, I think these Hispanic citizens can actually be super maga, which they turned out to be Starr county, et cetera. President's going to Corpus Christi today because a lot of the establishment saying, oh, you gotta change the message. Those three seats that kind of been created down there are going to, I believe, hold the fate of the Republic in its hands. I know you're gonna go back down there, Steve, but what would be your mess message to people talking about that kind of those hard bitten folks with tons of grit that are in South Texas, in the rear of Grand Valley? American citizens. The Hispanic Americans down there, sir.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah. By the way, it's an incredible part of the country, South Texas. I've learned so much by going there several times for documentaries and other investigative work. And one of the things I learned, for example, is they're some of the most faithful people in America. Some of the most Christian, really just spirit filled folks that you can find, whether it's Hispanic evangelicals or Hispanic Catholics in South Texas. Intensely patriotic, many of them, most of them have family members or close relations to them who actually work in Border patrol. It's a huge part of the population down there, a lot of bad hombres defending the United States. And here's my message for the power brokers in Washington D.C. and elsewhere. The ruling class right now is trying an end around. They're essentially throwing a Hail Mary pass and saying this, this is our chance to get back immigration to where we want it, which is tolerating poorest borders. And we're claiming that, guess what, you're in political trouble with Hispanics because of the immigration policies of America first and President Trump. The numbers tell us otherwise. That is just not the case. Now, are there vulnerabilities among Hispanic voters? I think there are, but it's about the economy. In other words, working class people, whatever their ethnicity, whatever their color, working class people are still very unhappy with the economy. They have largely now transferred their economic angst from Joe Biden over to the Republicans as the governing party. Now again, I think there's a great story to tell, particularly about real wages. I think we've got to be more aggressive at telling that, at selling that vision to working class people, including Hispanics in this country. But that's the crux of the problem. So don't fall for this nonsense from establishment Republicans who claim we're going to lose Hispanics over immigration. The numbers actually tell us the exact opposite. And again, the crux of it really is about real incomes. If you want real incomes to keep growing, and that's the mother's milk of Main street prosperity, it's real income. If we want real incomes to keep growing, the best way to get there and to accelerate this positive trend is more deportations, more enforcement of immigration, more illegal workers leaving this country.
Steve Bannon
And if you want rents to drop in the affordability thing, keep, keep sending. Steve, you've nailed it. Where do people go to get your docs? You got tons of information the Wisconsin poll should pay attention to. And we look forward to getting you back down to the Rio Grande Valley in South Texas, sir.
Stephen K. Bannon
You bet.
Steve Bannon
Yeah.
Stephen K. Bannon
Please go to CortezInvestigates.com Cortez with an S. All my stuff's there. Documentaries, polling, everything. My newest documentary features a guy named Steve Bannon as one of the among other illustrious guests, one of the guests who made this doc really compelling about China's college takeover. Go to CortezInvestigates.com thank you, sir.
Steve Bannon
It was honored to do it. It was a great piece of speaking of China and the Chinese Communist Party. Forrest and Roy Guo, join us now. Guys, you've worked on this a long time. Miles guo, the new federal state of China and about the ccp. It's been in the Washington Post story and I believe in the NBC story about this executive order. This is because people inside the government are saying they're going to roll out either next. And John Solomon's done a great job. And John will be back on Monday with us. He's done a great job of exposing these things that are happening right now. But there is foreign interference, and that foreign interference is the Chinese Communist Party. This is something we've argued about for years in the 2020 election. It's one of the reasons President Trump is now working on and drafting up an executive order. It's calling for a potentially national emergency that has to be taken care of because the Senate's not moving on this bill. Forrest, I'll start with you. Is there any doubt because you guys represent the Lao Beijing that is against the Chinese Communist Party, and people kind of miss the fact when the Chinese Communist Party is talking about China, they're the greatest threat to the Chinese people. They've killed the Abortions alone are about 400 million, but the murders they've had is about 250 million or more. They're the greatest threat. The people they've killed more of in history are their own people. The Lao. Beijing, your thoughts now on this emergency order that the President's thinking of putting out next week predicated in a big part about Chinese Communist Party influence and actually stepping into the 2020 election to get Trump out of office. Sir.
Forrest and Roy Guo
Okay, thank you so much. First of all, again this proves how important you are show and Mao school is because we are talking about Chinese people does not equal to Chinese Communist Party. And also you were talking about Chinese infiltration and Chinese 3F plants in the US this is the proof we are talking about over years. Today we are just seeing the action. And Roy yesterday used the correct word, control. CCP is trying to control the election in this country. We are talking about the media control, the capital control the virus control. Let's not forget that. That's a very important part of the control. And also the machine control. Just the Sam just talked about the machine. So CCP is controlling the election years before. So today we are just seeing the President Trump putting the action. What I'm saying is we do need more actions. We do need more arrest who is stolen the election, who is undermining the election. We need more arrest, more persecutions, more consequences. Today we are just seeing the action. We also need to protect all the patriots like you, like Mao, like Peter Navarro and our mayor. All you have paid the price for the actions you did, for the talk you, you talked years back to wake up the American to tell the intelligence,
Steve Bannon
the CCP infiltration, CCP damage, you can't forget. I just want people to understand. Let's do the timeline. President Trump when he came in office and was the one that was the toughest against China, it was a big part of the 16 election. He had Lighthizer Navarre work for two years, for two years on a comprehensive economic deal that would fold the Chinese Communist Party into the world economy and take away all the cheating, all the excess capacity, the state owned industries, all the graph there, the ability to drive down wages throughout the world. The way to destroy other countries like they've just done with this $1 trillion trade surplus they got by dumping all these goods into Europe. When President Trump finally got tough on him with his trade and said we're not going to do this anymore when they rejected that in May of 2019, after two years of negotiation, in May of 2019, Wan Cheeshon and Xi said no, if we do that, the foreign devils are gonna be in control us. And so they basically said no. They told the tech guys we wanna decouple technologically. And not just that. He then declared a people's war against the United States of America. After that you've got the pandemic, right? And then when that didn't work, it was their direct involvement to steal the 2020 election. Their path to get rid of Trump is quite obvious. It's been an obsession with Xi since Trump came to power. Roy, give me a minute here on this and then we're going to hold you guys through the break. But the Chinese Communist Party have been obsessed with make sure they can remove unable to stop him first. They're obsessed with taking him out now.
Forrest and Roy Guo
Roy Guo well, yeah, that's exactly why CCP fears you and fears Trump, because President Trump is the person of action now. We see all the actions that like CCP really fear. And when these speak, words are nothing. Right? And also the intelligence Miles, Guo and Yu been providing to President Trump, that's very important.
Steve Bannon
Don't forget about that.
Forrest and Roy Guo
That's not political commutation or like some information, some guessing. This is top information and secrets from the top CCP level officials and in the military. And it's been proven right all the time and continue to be proven right. Right. And that's the reason why the CCPC is dreaming about putting you into prison again and to destroy Trump in 26 and 28 and then put him into prison and destroy all the people around him. So that's the importance of this. And we've been doing this since 2020 or even since 2017 when Miles first came out and talk about the mini machine, talking about about the infiltration, talk about the control and talk about the unrestricted warfare. So that's what we've been doing. And now and today we see the action and we're so happy and I think that's why we need to celebrate and also we need to bring more actions to this to stop this happening again.
Steve Bannon
Hang on for a second. I'm going to talk about what's going to happen next week in the next two weeks, about the exposure of this with the summit that's going to come up in April. Short commercial break Back in the Warm In a moment. The world is getting more unstable and chaotic every day. It seems like everyone, everywhere you look there's another crisis, another controversy, another conflict or just outright catastrophe. You can't control what happens out there, but you can control how you prepare for it. You can make sure that no matter what happens, you have the basics covered in case one of these disasters reaches your doorstep. You know, things like having enough food to eat when the shelves are empty. And when it comes to my family's food security, I trust my Patriot Supply. They've helped millions of Americans get prepared and they have over 90,000 five star reviews right now. You can get their best selling 3 month emergency food supply kit for 100 bucks off. My Patriot Supply almost never offers a deal like this. To take advantage of it. Go to preparewithbannon.com that's all one word. Preparewithbannon.com this food kit gives you 2,000 calories a day last up to 25 years. And best of all, it's $100 off for a limited time. Go to preparewithBannon.com and get yours right now. That's preparewithBannon.com make sure you know all one word preparewithBannon.com Special deal, 100 bucks off. Do it today. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Welcome back, Forrest. So it's been in the Washington Post, it's been in the NBC report about this interference and what may come out. Looks like it could come out in the next couple weeks. John Solomon's going to be back with us Monday, if not tomorrow. And John's got a lot of breaking news on that. Given that it looks like there could be some assertion of Chinese Communist Party influence or direct meddling in the 2020 election after the pandemic didn't work to drive Trump from office, they had to go this. What would be your recommendation? Give me a minute or two. President Trump's got a major state visit tentatively scheduled, I think for April. They're trying to work through what would be your recommendation to him about this state visit with the Chinese Communist Party after it's exposed that they did try to and attempted to and probably had a big part in driving him from office illegally in 2020. Sir.
Forrest and Roy Guo
Okay, first of all, I would raise awareness of President Trump and his Cabinet. No more wishful thinking or illusion because the CCP will do anything to survive this three years the previous guest talked about. So they will do everything. So the President Trump and his cabinet has to do put action more quickly and decisively. No more delay. You have to move quickly. The second you have to remove all the enablers and the bad guys within the system, who's helping the CCP back in 2020, even further back, those guys are real danger for this country. President Trump has to Follow through with all the investigations. Follow through with. We talk about follow the money, follow the pp. You have to follow through with actions with consequences for those people behind the bar. And that way we'll make sure the bad guy will, will be hold accountable. The last one, we have to make sure the election is fair and sound. Because without the election there is no free country, there is no freedom. That's what the CCP tried to destroy.
Steve Bannon
So you, you agree, you agree with. If the Senate can't get any of this passed, you agree with President Trump might have to go to an executive order. You agree with that?
Forrest and Roy Guo
100%. We have to do this long time ago because the CCP infiltrated into this country so deep. Look at all the guys. Help them with all the media guy or the finance guy in the Wall street guy. Help ccp. That's control, that's not interfering. I think that words interfering is too weak. That's why I support President Trump's action. We need to do this in order to save this country, in order to save the freedom and democracy in this country.
Steve Bannon
Forrest, is there any doubt in your mind that the Chinese Communist Party is the existential threat to the Lao, Beijing, the Chinese people, also to the United States of America and the American people, sir?
Forrest and Roy Guo
Absolutely. They are threat for all the human being because they want to enslave everybody if they can. And the American is in front of them to stop them, to take them down.
Steve Bannon
Faris, where do people go to get the new federal state? Your newscast, social media, all of it.
Forrest and Roy Guo
They can find us on Gather. It's NFSC tv. NFSC speaks. They can also find us on X NFSC speak and we also. You can find me on Gather. NFSC also at forest01.
Steve Bannon
Roy. Roy, what about you? Where do we go to get you?
Forrest and Roy Guo
People can follow me at royguard Y G U O O on getter.
Steve Bannon
Thank you sir. Appreciate it. Appreciate you guys doing this. Look forward to having you back next week when maybe there's going to be some announcements that John Solomon's been laying out for us. James Rosen Newsmax Chief Political National Correspondent Washington correspondent James, the winds of war are blowing through Tehran, Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, the United and Washington D.C. your thoughts? You've been around a long time. How serious is this?
James Rosen
Well, great to be with you again, Steve. Thanks for having me. I might pause before applying the word war to whatever might come. There may be some hostilities, there may be some short term military action, but I'm not certain that it's going to necessarily provoke war or lead to war, even if there is an exchange of hostilities that doesn't necessarily rise to the
Stephen K. Bannon
level of a war.
James Rosen
But yes, this is serious. And yes, the United States has deployed an extraordinary set of assets to the Middle East. And never before, as many commentators have pointed out, Steve, has the United States deployed so many assets to a given region without using them.
Steve Bannon
So you think that this could be essentially maybe coercive diplomacy if we're to see anything?
James Rosen
I think that's what it's been to date. But, you know, it was Wendy Sherman, who was a senior State Department official under President Obama and an architect of the Iran nuclear deal of that era, who testified before the Senate at the time that DNA is, or excuse me, deception is in the Iranians DNA. Of course, she was speaking about the regime and not the people of Iran. But so there are a lot of folks who have gazed upon President Trump's efforts to negotiate a new nuclear deal with Iran with some perplexity because, number one, after the the strikes of last June, President Trump himself told us that the Iranian nuclear program had been obliterated. And that's a very strong word with very clear meaning. It means gone. And yet now we have some need for a nuclear deal. Well, how could there be a need for a nuclear deal if the entire program was obliterated? And then again to that question of whether the Iranians will ever abide by the terms of a deal, negotiate faithfully towards a deal, just as the Obama administration understood that's it's in their DNA to deceive. And a number of columns recently have been written to the effect, and I think this is true, that there are different estimations or assessments on the part of the United States and its allies and Iran as to what success in a war or a limited military exchange might look like. And for the regime, they would rather take the bombing campaign than give away their enrichment rights. As long as the regime survives, that's their number one goal. It's unclear what the US Goal, the military objective in Iran for the United States would be right now. President Trump hasn't been specific about it. And there's some strategic value in remaining vague about your intentions. But would it be simply again, to inflict more damage on the programs of their nuclear apparatus or their missile capabilities, or would it be, in fact, regime change? All of that is still in the air. And as you say, all of it, Steve, is serious.
Steve Bannon
I thought of you in your magnificent book about Associate Justice Scalia the other night during the State of the Union, when the President addressed the Supreme Court. I think now more than ever, people need to get this book and read it. The first volume's magisterial. The second volume is incredible. You're working, I know. On the third volume. Why is it now more than ever, time to really get to know Scalia, particularly given some of the edge that the President has with the Supreme Court right now.
James Rosen
So everything you see, if you just do a 360 when you look around you, everything you see, every aspect of American life was touched, shaped materially by Antonin Scalia. So the time is ripe to learn about him because it will enable you to learn about modern America and how we got here. Everything from race relations to free speech rights to the presidential election of 2000 that shaped the next 25 years. So it helped you learn about modern America to understand Antonin Scalia. In the case of the most recent Supreme Court ruling from, I guess it was last week now, where the Court ruled six to three against the lawfulness of President Trump's global tariff program, which he had predicated on a 1977 Emergency Powers act that doesn't mention tariffs. I think that even that decision to some extent bore the imprimatur of Antonin Scalia, because in crafting a majority opinion, Chief Justice Roberts went primarily first and foremost to the text of the 1977 emergency powers law. That is a textualist approach, which was, of course, an approach that Justice Scalia championed and which was a fringe theory when he came along and has become dominant now. And in looking at the 1977 law, Chief Justice Roberts noted that it didn't contain the word tariffs, which is another way, for example, that conservative judges and Justices look upon abortion. It's not mentioned in the Constitution. Right. So. And furthermore, Roberts said that the law actually states, from 1977 only that the President may, in times of declared emergencies, quote, regulate importations. So Roberts distinguished even breaking out the Black's Law Dictionary, which was another favorite trick of Scalia's. I shouldn't say it's a trick, but a means of, of statutory construction, a tool of statutory construction. That's how closely we were looking at text and language. Roberts busted out Black's Law Dictionary to distinguish between a regulation, which is what the 77 law talked about, and a tax, very different, which a tariff, of course, is a tax on imported goods. So in that textualist mold, one can see right there, Justice Scalia's imprimatur and the fact that the ruling went against a conservative president would also have been something that would have been Scalian in the sense that if you're really practicing originalism and textualism, sometimes the results will come up in a way that displeased the honest judge. But that's how you know you have an honest judge.
Steve Bannon
Give me a minute on how he took it from a fringe theory, because when he arrived, people did. It was not even in serious discussion. And this is some of the most, you know, some of the most profound things that we deal with as Supreme Court had to go from a fringe theory to the way that we conduct business at the Supreme Court. Now even some of the liberal judges,
James Rosen
in a word, through the force of personality of Antonin Scalia. When Scalia became a Federal Judge In 1982, President Reagan appointed him to the D.C. circuit Court of Appeals, one rung below the Supreme Court, where his colleagues at that time included Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Robert Bork and Kenneth Starr. A real murderer's row of judicial talent there prevailed in a law in the early 80s in American law, a liberal notion called the living Constitution. This is the idea that judges today should be able to expand the meaning of the Constitution or any law enacted since then to account for phenomena that the founding fathers could never have anticipated, such as the Internet or nuclear weapons. Scalia stood athwart all that. The Constitution is neither living nor debt, he would say. It is an enduring legal text. Words have meaning and they don't change over time. And if some judge is expanding the meaning of those words 10 minutes or 10 years or 100 years later, that's an activist judge enlarging his own power and violating the separation of powers. Rather, Scalia said, we should always judges when they're doing their central business, which is interpreting a law and telling us what the law means, they should adhere to the original meaning of the Constitution or any statute enacted since then, the meaning it was widely understood to carry at that time so as to respect the democratic will of the people of that time.
Steve Bannon
James, where do people go to get the book and where they go to get you?
James Rosen
You can follow me at Newsmax, where I'm the chief Washington correspondent on X at James Rosen TV and the book Scalia Supreme Court Years 1986-2001, covering the first half of his momentous tenure on the Supreme Court. You can get it on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, anywhere.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Definitely. I mean, it's just incredibly well written. It's detailed, it captures his brilliance and it's probably the best biography of any judge that's ever written. And it's fun to read, it's exciting. But like you said, this tells you how the court works, how things get done there, you know, over a very long period of time. Somebody who was at the center of it, somebody who was honest, who was sincere, who was brave. And you see how important the court is, how important the freedom of the court is, and how important it is that they live by their ideals.
Steve Bannon
Yeah. So we're going to have some folks on if we can do it, the presence in Corpus Christi, the people trying to schedule. Some of these folks that a little worked up on Roundup yesterday had this great event down in Austin. Bobby's there. Give me a minute on this Roundup situation. What's happening, because as you know, because you're the. You're your Maha, the Maha guy, folks are a little worked up on this. What's your response to that, sir?
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, let me just say that the big event Yesterday had about 700 people, and it was the launching of a take back your health tour. And it's going to be just a massive tour, city after city, and it's a tour that's going to rock this country because people are sick and tired of being poisoned with Roundup, but with so many other things, and they're tired of being lied to, of being censored and. And, you know, the truth is that you can't be free if you're not healthy. You know, if, if you're allowed to be poisoned. If these companies can. Can get away with what they've done over the last generation. We don't have any freedom, we don't have any health in this country.
Steve Bannon
Tony, where do people go for basically all your books? You're our partner. You're our publishing partner. You own, you know, regulary so many where I want people to go where they go for your main, you know, address to see all the things that Horse is offering and all your different imprints, where they go for that.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, I would go to skyhorsepublishing.com or you can follow me on Instagram at. Tony Lyons is uncertain
Steve Bannon
last. Where do people. They want to get more about this tour. We had a huge audience watching last night online. We want to get better, you know, production capabilities and make sure we're doing it. If people want to go and know what's coming to the city, where do they go for that?
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, I would go to mahaaction.com and what you're going to learn there is that Bobby Kennedy's leadership matters and, you know, and that leadership in general matters and whether it's Donald Trump fighting back against, I don't know, 65 lawsuits and billions of dollars raised to keep him out of power, or Bobby Kennedy, you know, fighting through 19 years of hit pieces, often two or three of them each day, to come back and run the most powerful agency in the government and the most important one, because the thing that keeps us healthy and like I said, free. So, you know, that's what you're going to learn from mahaaction.com that's what you're going to learn from reading books like Scalia. You know that books are important, words are important, and leadership really matters.
Steve Bannon
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Forrest and Roy Guo
Am.
Cameron Kinsey
Yes. Thank you so much for having me, Steve. It's good to be with you. Just a little context for our audience. Tax Network is one of the nation's leading tax firms. We help everyday Americans and business owners just fight back against the aggressive IRS enforcement that we've seen. Whether you're dealing with unfiled returns, mounting penalties, collections already underway. We have A team of CPAs enrolled agents tax attorneys, even former IRS agents who just know the IRS's tactics and the tax code inside and out. We have helped our clients over a billion dollars, save over a billion dollars in back taxes. We've worked with salary, employees, retirees, small business owners, gig workers, you name it. Steve. So if you have an IRS problem, chances are we've already seen it before. We know exactly how to handle it. And we're not just another service provider. We share the values of the people watching this show. Right now, we want to protect everyday Americans from these weap institutions, no matter the administration. That's the lens that we approach every single case with. So how does this start? What does it look like? It starts with a direct consultation. It's completely free. We dig into your financial picture a little bit deeper, and then if you decide to move forward after that free call, we take it from there. We flag every deduction, fix any errors, make sure that your filing is clean and audit proof. And so, I mean, we've got this Deadline coming up, Steve. April 15th. The worst thing people can do right now is wait. And I know people are stuffing those letters in a drawer somewhere hoping that this problem goes away, but it's not going to. The IRS counts on people who are too afraid to act or who are ignoring this problem. It typically leads to more aggressive enforcement like wage garnishments, bank levies, increased penalties. But you talked about what we're doing for the War Room Posse right now, so I want to get into that. If you owe money or you're behind, you have no idea what the IRS has on you. You don't know the flags on your account. You don't know if they're a levy coming. You don't know if they've assigned an agent yet. The research and discovery call is completely free with us. Now, that is something we normally do Once you become a client with Tax Network USA usually costs hundreds, if not thousands of dollars because we're dealing directly with the IRS on your behalf. But right now, for our War Room posse, until that April 15 deadline, we are doing that for free. So if you guys are interested, reach out to tnusa.com/bannon or call 866-513-5516. Again, that's a new number that we gave for the War Room Posse because we had so many people calling in. So again, it's 866-513-5516. You're able to talk to one of our team members directly. We're going to dig into your financial picture and we're going to help you out.
Steve Bannon
President Trump said the other day his objective with tariffs is over 10 years maybe to do away with income tax. President Trump has not done away with income tax. Don't put this blame on him. Repeat the number right now when everybody go for a discovery call. But the tax system is still in place. President Trump's got an overarching. If we can cut spending and terrorists work in a decade, he could do away with it. He can't do away today. You still gotta pay your personal income tax. So where do they go? One more time for the free discovery call.
Cameron Kinsey
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Steve Bannon
Got the special number. Call Cameron Kinsey. Thank you, ma', am, for changing your schedule around to come on and talk to people about it. Use it. It's free. Come on, man. Steve, thank you. Our own Natalie Winners. What a dust up. Let's play it. And then we're gonna bring on Natalie.
Stephen K. Bannon
The law, I mean, it is a crime. I'm surprised to see a mayor of a major city trying to suggest that it's not a criminal offense to be in the country.
Steve Bannon
It's not a criminal offense. I don't. It's not my suggestion. It's actually the law. The law.
Natalie Winters
And my value that you care about is promoting and supporting democracy in the United States. A lot of these illegal aliens that you're importing into this country, the Democratic Party did for the last, I don't know, decades. What? 10 million plus under Joe Biden aren't exactly coming from countries that even have democracies, let alone some of them actually aren't even countries. They're failed states. Enter places like Somalia. I think we all know what happened in Minnesota. I've never heard of a more verbose and rambling answer to what should be probably the most simple thing that you could answer, that your primary duty is to defend American citizens. I've also never heard Democrats uncritically bring up, I don't know, the Constitution. I thought you guys hated that document. But here's the issue and here's what I would say. Pierce here's how I would free
James Rosen
this
Natalie Winters
weaponization of what it means to be an American of immigration policy. We can all sit here and give our culture, culture war definitions of what it means to be an illegal alien. Immigration, legal terms, whatever. The point is the people reason why people are fed up with immigration and illegal immigration is because it's not actually about immigration. It's about. It is a scam that big businesses, all these donors that are funding all of those candidates and congressional members that you saw sitting at that State of the Union address, they just want cheap labor. That's all they care about. I'm sure that's all your donors care about. And that's why you're seeing a decade of American identity. So corporations can suppress the wages of Americans. You're saying, wow, you should eat. You know what? Your party can't even stand up for Americans who are hit by trucks by illegal alien drivers. You think you care about the affordability, the lived experience we already identified.
Steve Bannon
You are repeating a false statement.
Natalie Winters
No, there's an illegal alien truck driver that hit a five year old girl. An illegal alien hitting five year old girl who was present at the State of the Union. I could sit here for hours and give you the name of Americans who've been killed by illegal aliens. But you know what the point is, we don't just need to allow illegal aliens in this country because they're not criminals. They depress the wages, they destroy the culture of this country.
Steve Bannon
There's too many people.
Natalie Winters
If you import tens of millions of people from other cultures, you no longer have a United States of America. Yes, you're seeing more than the genesis.
Steve Bannon
All of her racism is coming out.
Natalie Winters
Seeing enclaves and Muslim enclaves being in the state of Michigan. Look at Dearborn. Dearborn is not America.
Steve Bannon
The more she talks, the more racist it becomes. The fact that she's saying people come.
Natalie Winters
No, I care about your citizenship maximizing value of being an American. Studies that Obama put out about wages is black Americans who are the most negatively impacted by.
Stephen K. Bannon
Please don't talk over each other because
Steve Bannon
I can't hear either of you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Okay, guys, guys, please stop talking over each other. I can't hear you. Well, you're both talking at the same time. The viewers. Let me ask the mayor.
Natalie Winters
So I'm defending.
Stephen K. Bannon
Please, Natalie, let the mayor. Mr. Mayor, explain why you think Natalie's being racist.
Steve Bannon
Natalie Winters, that was the mayor of New York, of Newark, New Jersey. Ma', am, we got about a minute here, but in related news, the mayor of Newark fired his comms director, whoever booked him on the show with you, he hit a buzzsaw, ma'. Am.
Natalie Winters
Oh my goodness, what a funny clip to watch. I guess I won't ever be flying out of the Newark airport again, but that just shows you this individual. I think frankly a timely clip to play after your discussion with James Rosen, the new Democrat. Cop out to them not being able to say they support American citizens over legal aliens is that their primary oath is to the Constitution. Just like whenever you hear Democrats concerned about what is it, spending. That's why we couldn't have the border wall. Well, if the reason that they don't support American citizens over legal is the Constitution, I'll hold my breath.
Steve Bannon
Hang on a second. I'm going to come back because I want to talk about this whole concept up when you go on these shows. Natalie Winner's on the other side. Listen, folks, I want to tell you about this particular pharmacy because they're actually doing things right now for the American people. They're the real deal, not another corporate chain. If you're tired of fighting a broken system or begging for prescriptions, you need All Family Pharmacy. When someone in your house gets sick at 2am and the pharmacies close, you need All Family Pharmacy. Order online and get it fast. If your doctor refuses to prescribe Ivermectin after everything we've seen, you need All Family Pharmacy. This is a real American family business with licensed doctors fast shipping in the meds families rely on. It's simple. Place the order online, the doctor reviews it and your meds arrive in a few days. War room listeners keep saying how smooth the process is and how much they love this, how grateful they are to finally have a pharmacy that gets them. These folks at All Family Pharmacy are breaking the control of these big pharmaceutical distribution systems. So if you haven't already, check them out. Go to allfamilypharmacy.com bannon and use code BANNON10 for 10% off your essential medications. Check these folks out. You will love working with them. Go to allfamilypharmacy.com Bannon and use code BANNON10. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Natalie, where you've been doing things like Fire Line, all these things, other big shows, your peers with these panels. When a guy sit there and just throw out oh, illegal aliens help us with the fabric of democracy. They're not used to somebody coming back like you and just hitting them with a buzz saw. You can tell it, they don't know how to handle it.
Natalie Winters
Why is that, well, it's because I think the Republican Party has never actually messaged well on immigration because we're just as bad as Democrats. It's only because of shows like this and President Trump that we can actually have a movement that calls mass migration out for what it is, an effort to replace American workers, American citizens. I also think it's just sort of this weird projection. Anytime you talk about immigration, anytime I bring it up, I get accused of being, I guess, at least a racist, at most a white supremacist. And I think the point is, what I've sort of come to the conclusion firsthand of is it's really just projection that supporting an immigration policy that is anything short of turning America like 100% non white is racist. And it's because they view immigration through such a racialized lens, because they view it as sort of a weapon of mass migration, of demographic change. That wanting to say, like, no, America actually wouldn't be America if it were filled with entirely Somalians is somehow this racialist gotcha moment. It's like, well, no, America is America because it's filled with Americans. And as we've seen, Somalians actually don't really like the American way of life because all they do is welfare, shop and grift off of federal programs that are coming from the goodness of Americans hearts. I also think there's a clear national security threat. To link this to what I know you wanted to talk about, which is what's going down in Iran. I hope we don't get involved in another regime change war over there. As you know, regime change is always risky, but I think regime change after four years at least of an open border is just straight up reckless. I think if you were to reverse engineer the type of border policy that foreign sleeper cells would want to be able to embed in the States, I would look no further than what Joe Biden's DHS did under Mayorkas. And the numbers prove that there have been hundreds of known terrorist individuals on that watch list who came into the country under Joe Biden since 2021. In 2023 alone, there were 169 encounters reported. And the Biden administration or regime has actually not released the data. The specific numbers of how many of these individuals on the watch list have actually been released into the United States, I think that's quite concerning. And if you really hone in on Iran, to be specific, there were 1,504 Iranian nationals that were led into or that were encountered on the border over Joe Biden's four years, 729 of them at least, being released into the interior of the country. And the Trump administration is very aware of this. You have CBP and DHS putting out, you know, notices telling law enforcement to be very alerted and concerned over the potential of Iranian sleeper cells. I just think that this is another component that certainly needs to be evaluated as we're assessing what's going down. And that reason, of course, are you
Steve Bannon
concerned because James Rosen, I mean, it's between war and coercive diplomacy. Even in the course of coercive diplomacy aspect, you're concerned about this.
Natalie Winters
Well, of course. And I think if you see what's gone on in Ukraine, the sort of advent of not just drone warfare, but as you see these defense tech innovations, of course the Chinese Communist Party is sort of the vanguard at the tip of the spear on that. They're of course, deeply embedded in Iranian infrastructure. They want nothing more than for us to get dragged into full scale kinetic conflict again. Let's turn Iran into, you know, the second graveyard of empires because I guess Afghanistan wasn't enough. But I also think too, when you take a step back, you have to look at the Iran stuff just like we do through the lens of the Russia, Ukraine. It's not just about that country. It's about the broader geopolitical world order and realignment. And I also wanted to briefly get into this 2026 Global Catastrophe Report that the World Economic Forum put out where they talk about what crises the intelligentsia over there have planned for us. Not that they're smarter than us, but these are the institutional power brokers who are exploiting these crises to expand control. And some of the questions that they asked their panel of 1300 experts was what does the world order look like beyond sort of short term, long term. And basically 96% of them said that it will not be United States led. 68% expect a multipolar fragmented order. 14% expect bipolar. 12%, 12% expect a new international order led by an alternative superpower. And only 6% expect a reinvigoration of the US led rules based international order. That same cohort of so called experts, a third of them believing that we're hurtling towards actual state based armed conflict in 2026. So when you look at, for instance, Iran, right, their air defense being basically all supplied by the Chinese, not only are we deploy or depleting our strategic advantages by revealing that we can just totally override that like, like we did in Midnight Hammer, but you're also risking actual kinetic World War 3, you can't treat Iran as an isolated country, not just from the economic involvement. Right. They just signed a trilateral agreement with China and Russia for hundreds of billions of dollars in January. You already see China supplying intel, public, open source, but also more covert forms to Iran, giving them advanced notice of anything the United States is doing. So I just think this idea that you can approach Iran as an isolated cut country or incident is really misguided and we're playing with fire.
Steve Bannon
Playing with fire. Natalie, where do people get you? And, and also we're here to make announcement. No more panels on peers. You're too, you're bigger than peers. You're bigger than peers.
Natalie Winters
Depriving me of my, my true love, my panel. You know, you know what I like about the panels is when you play them, that's how I know I've done a good job.
Steve Bannon
Hold it. I know. Hold it. I know you've been into panel destruction because every time you go on there, you blow the panel up. But it's too much my head.
Natalie Winters
I'm like, I've got you. Well, they make.
Steve Bannon
You're a superstar. Just, just Pierce 101. Where do people go? Ma', am,
Natalie Winters
my substack. You should read that World Economic Forum report. It's Natalie G. Winters.substack.com and you, I guess, can no longer find me on panels. Thank you, Steve.
Steve Bannon
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Date: February 27, 2026
Title: More Deportations Of Illegal Voters; Stopping CCP Interference In US Elections
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guests: Steve Cortes, Forrest & Roy Guo, James Rosen, Tony Lyons, Cameron Kinsey, Natalie Winters
This episode of Bannon’s War Room focuses on two central topics:
Additional segments explore Middle East tensions, the legacy of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, activism against corporate abuses (e.g., Roundup), pharmaceutical distribution, and tax advice.
[00:01–08:13]
Wisconsin's Pro-Enforcement Consensus
Trump versus Governor Evers
Hispanic Voters & Messaging
Bannon and Cortes stress that Hispanic Americans, especially in South Texas, are patriotic, often involved in law enforcement, and support strong borders.
Establishment claims about losing Hispanics over immigration are “nonsense”—the real vulnerability is economic dissatisfaction, not border enforcement.
Quote (Steve Cortes, 05:55): “Don’t fall for this nonsense… The numbers actually tell us the exact opposite… If we want real incomes to keep growing, the best way… is more deportations.”
Resource: Steve Cortes shares his polling and documentaries at CortezInvestigates.com (08:13).
[08:32–19:49]
CCP Electoral Meddling Allegations
Bannon introduces Forrest and Roy Guo (New Federal State of China) to discuss context and allegations that the CCP “controlled” facets of US elections, including media, finance, and election machinery.
Quote (Forrest & Roy Guo, 10:13): “CCP is trying to control the election in this country… media control, capital control, the virus control… machine control.”
Calls for more arrests of those aiding CCP interference, more consequences, and protection for whistleblowers and activists.
Quote (Forrest & Roy Guo, 11:47): “We need more arrests, more persecutions, more consequences… We also need to protect all the patriots…”
Timeline and Trump’s Response
Recommendations for Trump
[20:19–28:13]
James Rosen Analysis
On Scalia's Legacy
Rosen connects Supreme Court decisions to Justice Scalia’s textualist philosophy, noting its impact even in rulings disfavoring conservative presidents.
Quote (James Rosen, 24:06): “Everything you see… every aspect of American life was touched, shaped materially by Antonin Scalia… It helped you learn about modern America to understand Antonin Scalia.”
Resources:
[31:03–34:10]
Tony Lyons (Skyhorse Publishing) & “Take Back Your Health” Tour
On Pharmaceutical and Tax Services
[39:31–51:44]
Highlights from Panel Debate
Linking to National Security
On Global Realignment
Resource:
Bannon (on Wisconsin):
“We’re going to protect our wages, our street safety and our national security. And this is a consensus opinion in a key swing state.”
(00:01)
Steve Cortes (on Immigration & Wages):
“You take them away. Wages for citizens go up. Wages for blue collar systems go up even more than the overall trend.”
(02:19)
Forrest & Roy Guo (on CCP Action):
“We do need more arrests, more persecutions, more consequences… The CCP is trying to control the election in this country.”
(10:13)
James Rosen (on Scalia’s Legacy):
“Everything you see… every aspect of American life was touched, shaped materially by Antonin Scalia.”
(24:06)
Natalie Winters (on Immigration Rhetoric):
“It’s about… a scam that big businesses, all these donors… they just want cheap labor.”
(40:33)
Natalie Winters (on National Identity):
“America is America because it’s filled with Americans… Somalians actually don’t really like the American way of life because all they do is welfare shop and grift off federal programs…”
(45:46)
This episode overlays grassroots Right-populist concerns about immigration, national security, and culture with allegations about Chinese electoral subversion. It combines policy debate, political strategy, populist activism, and media criticism in a confrontational, urgent style. The hosts and guests see immigration enforcement as a unifying, winning issue and call for decisive, even extraordinary action (such as executive orders) to counter foreign interference and reclaim national sovereignty.
Classic show “moments” include polling breakdowns in key states (Wisconsin), the assertion that “real Americans” support strict immigration, calls for purging CCP enablers, fierce pushback from Natalie Winters against liberal panelists, and a focus on alternatives to Big Pharma and IRS enforcement.
For clarity, commercial breaks, repetitive promotions, and non-content sections have been omitted.