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To read you exactly what he posted. He said, quote, any document signed by sleepy Joe Biden with the auto pen, which was approximately 92% of them, is hereby terminated and of no further force or effect. He says the auto pen is not allowed to be used if approval is not specifically given by the United the President of the United States. He also says in that post, quote, I am hereby canceling all executive orders and anything else that was not directly signed by crooked Joe Biden because the people who operated the auto pen did so illegally. He goes on to say in that post, joe Biden was not involved in the auto pen process and if he says he was, he'll be brought up on charges of perjury. He says thank you for your attention to this matter. Of course, this was just posted moments ago to Truth Social. Again, the president, as we know, following him, is at the golf course. So of course we're hoping to confirm and get any more information about this. ALICIA okay.
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Thursday, the 5th of March in the year of earlier 2026. I want to thank Natalie, amazing hour right there, of course, Kurt Mills and and our own Brian Kennedy. Fantastic hour. We've got a lot to cover. In this hour, Dr. Thayer, we're going to get a battle assessment, particularly about the Straits of Hormuz where gasoline, oil prices are going to go, all of that. Jeffrey Hunter's joining us, going to talk about polling, about real some real polling that President Trump ought to be seeing for the Maha, for the Maha movement and much, much more. In this hour, I want to start with Julie Kelly. So, Julie, I'm totally confused now, but you're here and you're going to come back because we have other topics to talk about with you this afternoon. But I grabbed you on phone because NBC News reported last night breaking DOJ Shell's investigation to Biden's auto pen use after it failed to find an applicable criminal statute, sources say, then, Julie Kelly, you enlighten me. And if Denver can get it up with a long Twitter post that explains something that we're seeing here in Dallas, in Texas, jury nullifications. And actually the training sessions for people to go on juries for jury nullification on anything to do with ice, anything to do with mass deportations, I think you're gonna see that expand to things with Islam, HB1 visas. It's rampant here. Nobody wants to talk about it. What are you saying about D.C. julie Kelly joins us now by phone. Walk us through your Because a lot of people thought, well, maybe Pam Bondi, Judge JEANINE maybe they're not as aggressive as they need to be on this. You've got a very, very different take, ma'.
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Right. And it's also happening here in Chicago. I mean, we see prosecutors here who have brought or tried to bring cases against demonstrators, rioters, protesters, whatever word you want to use, against individuals interfering in ICE operations, assaulting police officers, federal officers. And they can't get either grand jury indictments or once they get it before a judge or a trial jury in these blue cities and not even blue cities, I mean, it's pretty pervasive. They can't get a conviction. But this is especially insidious in Washington, D.C. where you have a jury pool made up. And this also includes grand jury pool. So a grand jury is larger than a trial jury. It's anywhere, I think, between 16 to 24 individuals they serve for an extended amount of time. So I believe it could be 12 to 18 months. And they show up a day or two a week to consider charges that the government in this case, the Trump doj, DOJ and Jeanine Pirro want to bring and they consider those cases and then they can sign off on indictments. Now, my covering the J6 cases, your case, Peter Navarro, the Trump case in Washington, D.C. these grand juries acted as nothing more than a rubber stamp. So did the judges. I mean, think about this, Steve. The DOJ, the Biden DOJ, had a 100% conviction rate in J6 trials. Not a single J6er walked out of a courtroom after a trial, completely exonerated, acquitted on all counts. Yet now Jeanine Pirro and the Trump DOJ is struggling to get a basic indictment, criminal indictment against ICE protesters, against political, former political officials. And now what appears to be stalled by the auto pen investigation. So this is a real crisis that the DOJ is dealing with.
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And it's spread throughout the country. And now they're teaching, they're having seminars on jury nullification for individual jurors. This is going to, I'd say this Austin, Dallas, Dallas, Chicago, Minneapolis, New York City, Washington, D.C. you can't get. If they, if they, if they roll you up there, you're done. And law enforcement can't. Is not going to be able to basically enforce the law, particularly immigration law. Julie, give. If this is the fact, what do you recommend we do about it? We have to do something now. What do you recommend? Just we got to go and get changes of venue. The judges won't allow that, will they?
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They won't. And unfortunately. And I don't even know how you could get a change of venue for a grand jury, so. But now Jeanine Pirro did tweet this morning that the investigation was ongoing. I'm not really sure, you know, if that's a safe face measure, if it's actually true, if they are considering their options. But they are not going to get criminal indictments. And in the rare instance they do, you are not going to have a D.C. jury convict anyone brought before them by the Trump Department of Justice.
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You know, it may be that they've still got civil, I mean, I think maybe civilly. And unwind these executive orders and undo the pardons. We'll figure all that out. But you've nailed something we need to talk about and we need to get an action plan to work around it. There is not a fair justice system in this country. Not even close. And it's really going to. Even with the Supreme Court ruling yesterday, Julie, on immigration, you can just tell it's going to be very tough in these big metropolitan areas. Julie, you gotta bounce. We're gonna get you back tonight. Got a lot of stuff to catch up on. Where do they go for your substack and all? Everything you're putting up on Twitter substack
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Julie, thank you so much. Appreciate you, Dr. Thayer. And I think it just happened. I just was notified after I said that that I believe if my producer is correct. I don't know if we have any footage that a tanker in the Straits of Hormuz was just hit by a couple of rockets or a couple of missiles. We're gonna pull some footage so we can do that. Just happened 60 seconds ago. least we found out about it. Your battle assessment right now, let's leave the politics and the grand strategy aside today at 4:30. Also programming notes, CENTCOM is going to give I think it's Admiral Cooper is going to give a and he and I tell people if you want to see the military operation in its detail, Admiral Cooper and the CENTCOM team is delivering that 4:30 today. Real America's voice will cover it if it rolls into our five o' clock show. We'll obviously cover it in the Q and A. Your battle, your battle assessments so far particularly straights are Hermus. I think brent is now at 84 a barrel. West Texas, I think it's 76. West Texas accrued is a good rule of thumb for America and Brent is for the world, I should note. And there was a chart the other day, I think Kobayesi, one of these great sites that covers all the Wall street details that since Bibi had gone to Mar A Lago Oil at the time of the beginning of the strike was up 33%. That shows you how efficient the world's oil markets are. They are quite efficient markets. About information, Dr. Bradley Thayer.
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Well, Steve, they are. There's no doubt about it. So in the conduct of the war, we really have a new front and that's the Gulf. And the Strait of Hormuz is a key point, obviously 21 miles, obviously at its narrowest point. You have about 4% of world shipping by tonnage in the Gulf now. So well over 3,000 vessels are either in the Gulf or seeking to transit it from the other side. The oil that's there has to get out as well as the natural gas to serve world energy markets. And Steve, as you well know, as the audience does too, President Trump is moving towards tasking the Navy, the surface fleet, obviously to escort those vessels through strays of Hormuz. So that's going to be a significant obligation for the Navy, one that they're fully capable of meeting. But it still is going to be very dangerous and complicated due to the threat of mines, the threat of drones, the threat of cruise missiles, the threat of air attack and other means that the Iranians might pose to shut down or to attrit shipping in the Gulf to drive up the price. Right. They want to hurt the natural gas market and they also want to hurt clearly the oil market in a way of inflicting pain on us. Right. That's one of the ways that they're retaliating against us as well as the Gulf sheikdoms and Saudi Arabia in other fronts, very notably, Steve, the Kurdish front. Right. The idea that the Kurds.
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Hang on, hang on Hang on, before I get to the Kurds, I want to go back to this. Because they had to make a strategic calculation. They had to determine during Ramadan to actually to draw everybody into this fight and to really go after the oil and the gas. They had to make a strategic calculation of going after Muslim countries and going after as hard as they possibly could with what they had drones and missiles at the time to do. Both uae, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, and I think even a little bit of Kuwait and Bahrain, Bahrain particularly, but Bahrain's always been kind of the odd lot there. Talk to me about that. Give me a minute. Because this is not an insignificant strategic move. The audience understand that instead of doing. And remember Saudi and these guys have hated them, they hate each other, the Arabs versus the Persians. But they have had a kind of a rapprochement over at least the last couple of years. They made a strategic calculation to actually engage in kinetic warfare the Arab states during Ramadan and particularly focus on going after terminals, going after the oil assets at Qatar's gas fields, which they're a joint partner in. And the Straits of Hormuz is how they basically get the cash money from the ccp. So give me a couple minutes and that before we go to break, we'll come back on the Kurds.
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Well, the first point is it's not unheard of to be fighting during Ramadan. If you remember the 73 war, the Yom Kippur War was also fought during Ramadan and when the Syrians and the Egyptians attacked Israel. So the attack during Ramadan does.
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But hang on, but hang on, hang on. Back then, I don't. Back then, Ramadan wasn't like those. Those were, those, those were, that was during the secular phase of Arab nationalism. That's not today. You're talking apples and oranges. Back then you had Nasser, you had the what? The United Arab Republic, which was both Syria and Egypt, these guys were Muslims, but they're not Muslims like today. I mean, Muslims today. Ramadan's like everything back then. These guys were. And they were very upfront. We're Arab nationalists first, we're Muslims second. Right. So this is a very different. This is a very much more sensitive time where they specifically, during Ramadan attacked their other Muslim nations, particularly Sunni nations with large Shiite working class populations. Correct?
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Yeah. Well, it shows the interest of the state really trumps the interest of the religion in this instance. So. So when we think about Hormuz, I think we need to also recognize that this is going to be a very long process because as the war ends, I think we need to go back to praying Mantis. We need to go back to the escort that the US Navy did in the mid and late 1980s to ensure that again, oil and gas flew out, came out of this.
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Dr. Just, just, just hang on for one second. We're going through the break. We got more on Humus. The Kurds, obviously something going on with the Kurds. I know the Turks, our NATO allies got to be thrilled with that one because the Kurds, they feel they, they got a piece of Iran, they get a piece of Iraq, they got a piece of Turkey. These are hard bitten fighters and they've been dealt and double dealt throughout their history. Short commercial break. You're in the war room on a Thursday.
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Those ships moving through the Strait of Hormuz right now. Instead, there are ships being attacked this morning here off the coast of Oman. There was yet another vessel that was targeted by Iranian missiles. The Oman navy got a call to respond to assist this vessel that had been targeted. That takes the number of ships targeted by Iran in the Strait of Hormuz to past four now. And they are continuing with their strikes. To anyone who comes near this de facto border that they have set up not to pass, not to attempt to try and cross the Strait of Hormuz, what many ships have been trying to do over the last few days is actually turn off their signals and then try and get through. We also learned today, Anna, that two shipping giants decided to halt bookings completely and actually began diverting vessels away from the Straits of Hormuz, trying to find different routes around. But this is such a vital route. You know, 20% of the world's oil passes through here. And so it is crucial. President Trump is still trying to find a way to actually escort some of these vessels through. He's saying U.S. navy could try and do that, but that will be a huge task. And if Iran are willing to target any flagged ship in the vicinity, they could also potentially attack those US Navy vessels if they try and escort any ships through the strait.
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Back in, I think it was 1980, I was a junior, I was a young naval officer on a combatant that was in and out of the Straits of Hormuz. It's, it's not as easy as people think. It's, it's a very difficult see detail, very difficult to have your fire control solutions, your radars, just a very hostile environment that's without hostile fire. So, Dr. Thayer, here's what we're going to do. We're going to bifurcate your hit. I'm going to get you in a little later. I got Dr. Jeffrey Tucker is going to come up. We're going to talk about some polling I think this audience needs to talk about. Then we're going to talk about the AG race in this runoff in Texas. But I just, this happened kind of while we're speaking and another, I think suicide attack going on. Why this is a, quite different than we've seen in other of these situations, particularly even when we had the Gulf War, et cetera, where you, you kind of lock down that piece. Why is the, why is the oil and gas assets in the, in the Persian Gulf? They're in play now. Why is this through a whole different calculus, a whole different item into the calculus, the strategic calculation here?
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Well, it's Iranian retaliation. Right. Their point is to cut this off, increase the costs of exiting gas or oil from the Persian Gulf, to inflict pain on Americans at the end of the day by having increased costs as well as our allies and other partners. So Reuters is reporting this was a suicide attack in a rocky port against the tanker. And that underscores, Steve, the fact that it's not just the mines, it's not just aircraft, it's not just drones and cruise missiles. There's also another threat coming from suicide attacks like the Cole, if you remember the attack against the USS Cole in 2000 where suicide attack did horrific.
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That was by boat. Dr. Thayer, where can people get you right now? You're going to join us in a little while. You're going to hang out with Jordan. We got to talk about the Kurds. Also want to get more information on this because you're seeing the oil markets already react to these, to these hits and to the insurance issues. And I think the Navy, as you know, I think there's been some sort of talk about the Navy actually escorting vessels in and out. So that's I think if you think you got a third of the fleet over there now, you're probably going to have more of the fleet over if we're going to do this. Where do people go for your social media, sir?
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See Brad Theron X and Bradley Theron Getter and Truth. See you in a bit.
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Yep. Hang out. Dr. Jeffrey Tucker, I've been waiting for this piece to come because I think it's something we need to talk about. People are all freaked out about the midterms. We're going to have some details about the runoff races here in Texas today. People are obviously very concerned about the war, you know, and we're going to have Centcom, we're going to have the Centcom briefing live at 4:30 here in real America. Voice I think it's Admiral Cooper is going to give it and we are going to do that in its entirety and then have analysis and observations immediately afterwards. Maybe goes 30 minutes to an hour. We'll find out. But our five o' clock show will be about the CENTCOM brief because I think you gained the best battle assessment. The CENTCOM guys are in charge. Obviously they're running this and they're doing great work and we're getting great information. So. But Dr. Tucker, you're sitting there saying, hey, there's something else already in play here and people are not paying enough attention to it. Your point is the medical freedom movement is on a march and Bobby Kennedy and the team at HHS and the Trump administration, they're doing one aspect of it and getting some great wins. But this movement's deeper than that. It's a true grassroots movement. It's really a revolution in this country. It's powerful and you have super majorities that support it. Can you take it from there, sir? Talk us about your polling and about the medical freedom movement.
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The polling began from my point of view in reaction to a lot of fake polls I saw coming out in January and February that I looked at the questions That I thought, these are biased polls. What do people really think about issues of medical freedom and vaccine mandates and the right to access holistic treatments and issues of medical freedom in general? Leslie Mnookian at the Health Freedom Defense Fund and I got together and put together 30 questions that we thought were objective and unbiased just to find out what people really think. Is it really true that nobody cares about this stuff? Well, ZOGHB ran the poll for us and they were shocked at the results. Super majorities. We're talking about like 80% and sometimes even 90% for these hardcore issues of medical freedom that people feel very passionate about. Republicans, independent senators, and even Democrats at a lower level, but not that much of a gap. The poll is overwhelming. I'm still processing the results. We have many, many charts. I have three separate PDF embeds. You can see all the questions and see how unbiased they are. And all the results with complete charts we posted just yesterday.
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I want to go back to the original polls. Cause you sat there when he saw him and said, this doesn't feel right. It doesn't represent what I'm seeing out in reality in the world. Let's go back to his original polls. Why did you think just intuitively, because you guys work this every day. That just can't be right. Then you drilled down, he said, oh, I see what they're doing here. What were the polls,
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Steve? You know this. When you see these polls and the conclusions, you have to look at the questions and see what they feel like, if they seem intuitively correct. So the polls from December and January were run by a company called Fibrino. Okay? And they were asking people things like agree or disagree. Vaccine save lives. Well, how are you going to disagree with that? Vaccine's been around for 230 years. Is it conceivable that vaccines have saved lives?
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And so they reported this and told the White House, oh, you need to gag Bobby. You need to drop issues of vaccine skepticism. These are political losers. That's a quote from. From the pollster. This Fabrizio pollster
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Tony is with. McLaughlin, has been kind of the lead pollster for the President. Now this all goes back in time. Let's get. Let's make sure we get. This is where all of a sudden there was all this stuff that, hey, to make sure that we win the midterms, we don't want Bobby doing anything else. Right? And a lot of people saying, hey, we want Bobby doing everything. The President just had that magnificent Roosevelt Room where he actually took the lead in front of Bobby on the vaccines and getting to the early vaccines. The President telling these heart rendering stories had people. And I said, man, he's not just providing air cover, he's kind of the lead tank. Now. That totally kind of changed with some of this polling. Are you saying the President's being fed, you believe, inaccurate or maybe an information that doesn't show the entire depth of this movement?
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Steve, there is no question that what you just said is absolutely true. I know all the players and who's talking to whom and who's misleading him. And I'm telling you that this, this deception that's taking place is potentially very, very costly. It could lose the midterms because, because the MAHA coalition has broad and passionate public support, as this poll reveals. And anybody can take a look at it and see we're talking about 60, 70, 80%. Like people don't think that you should have vaccine mandates, that, that schools should be able to deny education to kids who are unvaccinated. They don't believe that the pharmaceutical industry should be indemnified against harms. They think a lot of people were harmed by the shots. This is a serious issue. These voters turn out. The poll we ran was of, of registered voters, as I say, broken down in thirds, Republicans, Democrats and independents showing broad and deeply held passionate beliefs. These are people that turn out on election day. So when they're telling Trump, oh, you have to, you have to forget about these issues. These are political losers. That is not true. These are two terribly biased polls that were run in December and January. They've been people running all over the White House going, oh, look, we need to get rid of Bobby and turn him into a salesman for good food and exercise and drop all issues of medical freedom. This is completely wrong, as this very good poll shows. And as I say, I invite anybody to look at it. The White House is, if they believe these old polls, they are in the process of making potentially a catastrophic error, Steve, because as you know, this war is not exactly popular with the public. And in fact, a lot of Republicans are confused and even demoralized by this. But the issues represented by these sort of make America healthy, healthy again group are extremely important and will get people out. And dropping them endangers the status of the party at the, at the midterms. So that's why this is so.
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Hang on one second. We're really jammed for time, but I do want to hold you over for a second because I think this is so important to talk about. You know, we say in war and you're seeing this in the, you're seeing this in the Iranian major military operation. The enemy gets a vote. Well, the same with the Maha movement. Big Pharma gets a vote. I think Big Pharma is trying to get a vote here, but I couldn't agree with Dr. Hunter Moore that the, the coalition is so important and such a winner for us. Short Commercial Break Dr. Bradley Tucker, Dr. Jeffrey Tucker on the other side.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. Remember during the height of those years, the pandemic and the vaccine mandates, Dr. Tucker and his team were on all the time. Dr. Tucker, we're kind of waiting for this, for you to do this poll. Just give me a minute because we're jammed for time, but just take a minute or two and just tell me, walk me through why your poll is deeper. Questions are better, you asked more and what the results were.
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I personally wanted to know what the public thinks. I mean, does the public really favor these kind of vaccine managers? They really want a whole industry Indemnified against harms. Are they really just nonchalant about the impositions that we all went through in this period? The injuries and everything.
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Anything else?
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So I wanted to know. So we contacted the pollsters ogbe and said we want a real poll of registered voters, people who are concerned in care that's cross partisan and we wanted in depth real people answering in depth questions. We put together 30 questions. We sussed it out over several days to make sure they were all balanced and fair and didn't have what I've seen a lot of polls which were tiny words to game the results right. To tap into that social acceptability bias or give you scare terms that, that hint what, what the answer should be. We didn't want any of that. So we, we went through all the questions concerning vaccine mandates, access to holistic treatment and dividification of industry. Vaccine mandates for, for children attending school. We covered the works and the, the results came in. And as I say, the pollster himself was shocked. He said he rarely if ever sees super majorities in anything. And it took me a better part of a day even to process the results. And as I said, they're all posted there. They will blow your mind. And the important thing about it is that it made me realize I'm not crazy. Right. I'm not some nutty radical. What I think is what 80% of the public thinks. It's just that the White House was not getting this message because of these distorted polls. So this, that's. And I knew these results were going to go viral and they have. I mean, yeah, it's definitely going to rock the West Wing. What it means is that Bobby needs to be unleashed that, that all the people at, you know, whether it's butter tribe at CDC at NIH or you know, Dr. Oz or Dr. Macary over at FDA, the whole MAHA leadership needs to be unleashed. And in the interest of the party, the Republicans have taken on these subjects and it's represents a massive political advantage to them.
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Yes.
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That they can play at times where the foreign policy issues are a little bit divisive. There's no division on these issues. So that's why.
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And this is what the coalition, this is that amazing coalition we put together, the one in 2024. You just can't abandon it and particularly do it when there's, when the math doesn't work out. Look, hopefully we're going to make sure that everybody sees this.
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Yeah.
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And there's one other thing, Steve, I just want to mention before we go. We put Together a really interesting reckoning, a sort of petition over the COVID period. It's called covidjustice.org and it went up a couple of days ago. It's already got 25,000 signatures. This is a suggested resolution the Senate can pass that says what happened was wrong. We shouldn't have gotten rid of the Bill of Rights. We shouldn't have violated people's bodily integrity during this period. We shouldn't have closed the school, shouldn't have shut down the small businesses and so on. We need some kind of statement, culture as a people, as a society, that this is not the way a free people should be governed. This statement has already got 25,000 signatures. And I. And if people are looking for something to do to send a message broadly to the media, to the White House, they can sign this, this, this.
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What are they. Where. Where do they go? Dr. Tucker, that.
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That is Covid. Justice.org it's very.
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Push it out. We'll be a force multiplier. I'm gonna call you after the show and hopefully get you back here tomorrow, Saturday. In a deeper breakdown of this, Paul, I want to go through it in detail, particularly the fact of no immunity for. Not just the big pharma. No, no immunity for roundup is the way I would say it anyway.
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That's right.
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That's two thirds. Two thirds.
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Two thirds. Two. There's a topic for a different day.
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Unbelievable.
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Thank you, sir. Brownstone Institute. What a great, great group. Doing great work. Mays Middleton, Terry Schelling, who is one of our biggest contributors and somebody that's really been at the tip of the spear. This trans radical, transgender ideology speaks the world about you, particularly this fight down in Texas. Now, you're in this runoff for Attorney general, but where he really came to see you was in this fight. Can you walk through how did you get involved in that? And what does this mean for what you will do as attorney General for the state of Texas?
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Right. I mean, look, this is about defeating the left. That's what everyone on the show wants to see happen. That's what I've been fighting for since day one in office. And, you know, these transgender surgeries on minors, this is evil, right? They're permanently mutilating these children, giving them drugs that permanently sterilize them. It's happening in California and New York. And, you know, I fought to end that in Texas. I helped pass the law to abolish that and prohibit it. But unfortunately, you know, the blue states are still doing it. And, you know, here's A clear distinction between myself and Chip Roy, who's in the runoff. He had an amendment to allow those evil practices to continue. And what it did is it allowed private transgender surgeries to continue. He was going to codify it, put it into law. And look, I'm fighting to end all evil, not just taxpayer funded evil. And his amendment would have rewarded Gavin Newsom, it would have rewarded the transgender lobby and allowed these evil practices to continue. And he had a contrived states rights argument. Well, I'm sorry, there is no right to hurt a child.
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How does this mean Walk us through? Because you're following. And whether he makes it to the Senate or not, and obviously we're a grassroots show and a MAGA hardcore grassroots leaders. Ken Paxton is revered because of the fight. He took right to the Biden regime from the very beginning. And we just had this situation with the auto pen. We had Julie Kelly on at the top of the hour. People are concerned that the auto pen thing may be dropped. Maybe it's causing grand jury problems, et cetera. But the one thing the MAGA base, not everybody, but the MAGA base looking for is men and women that will lean into it and really be fighters. So walk through, make the case that, hey, I'm Maes Middleton, and you may not know me too well, and this is the first time you may be hearing my voice, but I'm a fighter. Just walk through the issues you think are the most important. And where are you going to bring the fight?
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Look, there's a reason why I'm the only candidate in this race that's been protested at the Texas Capitol during this campaign. They have these big ugly green signs with my face on it, X's through my eyes, and they call me the bathroom bigot. Why? Because I don't want men in my little girl's restroom or locker room or shower. And look, they've threatened me. They've threatened my family. The two Democrats in this 80s race, Nathan Johnson and Joe Jaworski, can't stop talking about me. They keep saying, we gotta stop this MAGA maze guy. We can't let him get elected. They're not talking about my opponent in this race. And they're actually saying that the number one law that they will not enforce is the Women's Privacy act, the law that I wrote that stops perverted men from going into women's restrooms and locker rooms. So look, the reason why the left is protesting me, the reason why the left is threatening my life, the reason why the two Democrats in this ags race, say I'm the person to stop because I'm already defeating the left. The left knows who their true enemy is. You know, it's funny to see politicians like Chip Roy and Liz Cheney suddenly surprised when their record of fighting President Trump catches up to him. Because, you know, Chip was saying, hey, I'm going to be at 49%. He said he had a poll back in January that he was going to go win this without a runoff. He just needed to get one more percent that he was going to be out on top. This race was going to be over on March 3. And look, he ended up at 31. Why? Because he fights the President. He fights Maga. He said that we were MAGA effers and that we could kiss his. You know, what if we didn't like it? And you know what? That sounds a lot to me like the basket of deplorables with Hillary Clinton. And you what? I'm proud to be in that basket of deplorables. And this is someone that said Liz Cheney need to be condemned. Commended, not condemned. Right. He cited with Liz Cheney against President Trump, said that President Trump had committed impeachable conduct. And not only that, fought to certify a stolen election in 2020 and certified Joe Biden as president. I mean, the list goes on. His judgment is terrible. And repeatedly fought against the Make America Great Again agenda.
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We are going to have Chip on either tonight or tomorrow. Sometimes we're going to get Maze and Chip on for the duration of this. We think is very important. Obviously, AG is such an important not just for Texas, but the Texas ag, as you know, May sets really sets the tempo, I think, for conservative and for MAGA ags throughout the country. I think it's one of the reasons Paxton's so revered. Talk to me about your Democratic opponents. Why are they so obsessed? Why the Democratic Party in particular, a place like Texas where you can tell it just doesn't set well with people? Why are they obsessed with this issue of transgenderism? Well, I mean, like they've already said, hey, Middleton may have passed this law and. But as ag, the first thing we're going to do is make sure we don't enforce it. Why are they so obsessed by this radical ideology that you can kind of feel a lot of most Texans don't agree with?
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Exactly. Look, this is truly a spiritual battle that we are in. We are the light and they are the dark. I mean, you saw what they did to Charlie Kirk, not just because of his conservative values, but because of his Christian Faith. And they have to be defeated. And this is a show me, don't tell me business, Steve. I mean, how tired are we of hearing politicians telling us what they're going to do, right? I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that. No, you got to show us the results. And I can show you those results. I took on the woke left's radical gender ideology and one, I authored and passed the save women's sports law and the strongest women's privacy law in America. I took on the atheists, defeated them and won and got prayer and the Ten Commandments back into our public schools, Even took on our foreign adversaries in Austin and stopped China from buying our land. Designated cartels as terrorists, tripled border security, and have now taken on one of our most growing threats, one of our biggest threats against not just our country, against our state, and that is Sharia law and Islamification. Look, I'll be blunt about this. Sharia law is organized crime, period. This is not a religious liberties issue. They see us as the infidel, and they don't think we deserve the right to exist, not just as Americans, but as Christians. And they must be defeated.
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Mae, this is the first time a lot of people are being introduced to you. I want to make sure they are immersed in information and get to know you, because this one we're gonna have chip on. But I can tell I told people this one's gonna be fought down to the end. Where do people go? What's your website? What's your social media? How do people, if they want to find out more about Mays Middleton, how they do that?
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So it's Mays Middleton.com M A Y E S M I D D L E T O N Go to my Facebook page, Same thing. Mays Middleton is a handle Twitter maze. Middleton is a handle Instagram as well. A lot of y' all have seen those Maga maze ads as well. You know, I'm a proven conservative fighter here. And at the end of the day, I'm never retreating from Washington, D.C. because I'm never going to to Washington D.C. i have always known that the fight is here in the great state of Texas. And the reason why this fight's so important is we don't have another Texas to move to. This is it right here. This is the line in the sand,
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the jewel in the crown of the union. And I say that as a Virginian. It's the jewel in the crown of this union. And as Texas goes, so goes the nation. And as the nation goes, so goes the world. Maze Middleton, Honored to have you on here. Look forward to coming, getting you back and going through maybe a couple of these issues and more depth. But I appreciate you coming on today.
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Hey Steve, grateful for you. Thank you for having me on.
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Thank you, sir. Chip Roy I think Chip was going to try to get on last night. Couldn't make it. He set up and couldn't make it. Try to get him on tonight or tomorrow. So you're going to have a full plate of Chip Roy Mae Middleton, I think it's very important for the folks in Texas to be able to weigh and measure because as you know, what Ken Paxton gave us as attorney general, we're going to need that because this thing is they're coming for Texas and they're coming for Texas hard. The Red Green alliance is here. They got Texas in its gun sites. Short break. Back in a moment.
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Sure.
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Well, first point is this is Iranian retaliation. This is a way that the Iranians can inflict pain on the United States, on the American people, our allies, the Gulf sheikdoms, the Saudis and others. So it's entirely understandable about why Iran is trying to do this. They want to drive the price of oil and gas up and they are doing Brent's about $85 and going north. So that's going to be significant. That's one of the ways they can inflict economic pain on us. Secondly, the threat, you don't need to sink every tanker, just the threat of losses, the threat of damage is going to drive insurance up, which is why President Trump has in essence assigned the mission to the Navy, going back to, in a deja vu Sense, to the 1980s, Operation Earnest will, for example, from 87 to 88, where we escorted Kuwaiti tankers and others actually, as it turned out, through the Gulf and out of the, out of the straits. So that's going to be a major mission for the United States Navy to incur. Thirdly, you've got a lot of shipping bottled up.
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Right.
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Estimates are over 4%, essentially by tonnage of global ship tonnage are in the Gulf now. So that's a lot of vessels that are going to have to exit and those are going to be a lot of targets. Clearly, for the Iranians, this is shades of the Iraq, the tanker wars that we fought in the 80s. And there are a lot of lessons to learn from that. It's a very difficult environment for the Navy due to civilians, due to a lot of subsurface surface aerial targets, drones, mines, cruise.
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Sure. Brad Thayer, Steve and Bradley Thayer. Get her in truth.
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And maybe tonight with centcom or I want to get your voice in over the next couple days. I do want to get Mosher and you and Kennedy Moore, the China hawks, part of our anti CCP posse here in the war room to talk about the strategic. Because I'm saying I don't see how XI has this state meeting with President Trump in April. They're having their big political meeting, as you know, right now. But I think between Venezuela and Iran, two of his allies, President Trump's in full Takedown mode. We'll talk about it later, but the audience definitely wants to get your thoughts. Dr. Bradley Thayer. We'll see you tonight after Centcom.
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Yes, Steve. Okay, see you then.
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Date: March 5, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Main Guests: Julie Kelly, Dr. Bradley Thayer, Dr. Jeffrey Tucker, Mays Middleton
This episode focuses on two intersecting crises: the escalating attacks on oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz and the broader political and legal unrest within the United States. Host Stephen K. Bannon and a range of guests address the strategic, economic, and political impacts of the Persian Gulf attacks, delve into polling and the “medical freedom” movement, discuss challenges within the US justice system, and examine flashpoint political battles in Texas. The tone is urgent, combative, and deeply skeptical of elite institutions.
Dr. Bradley Thayer: “They want to hurt the natural gas market and they also want to hurt clearly the oil market—a way of inflicting pain on us…as well as the Gulf sheikdoms and Saudi Arabia in other fronts.” (09:58)
"Estimates are over 4%, essentially by tonnage of global ship tonnage are in the Gulf now. So that's a lot of vessels that are going to have to exit and those are going to be a lot of targets." (49:28)
The attacks are compared to “the tanker wars” of the late 1980s (13:52, 48:12–49:28).
U.S. Navy is preparing to reprise escort missions reminiscent of Operation Earnest Will.
The episode is marked by urgency, skepticism toward institutions, and an “us-versus-them” tone. Bannon repeatedly urges action, paints domestic and international struggles as interlinked battles for the soul of the nation, and foregrounds the grassroots and MAGA base’s priorities. Guests reflect that energy, voice frustration with perceived institutional obstacles, and champion combative, populist solutions.
| Segment | Time | Main Focus/Insight | Notable Participant / Quote | |-------------------------------|-------------|-------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------| | DOJ, Jury Nullification | 00:53–07:47 | Legal battles, system “rigged” | Julie Kelly, "No fair justice system..." | | Strait of Hormuz Attacks | 07:53–14:28 | Oil attacks, global markets, Navy | Dr. Thayer, Bannon | | Hormuz Ongoing Assessment | 16:21–20:36 | More attacks, market disruption | Various - shipping updates | | Medical Freedom Polling | 22:05–34:37 | Grassroots opposition, polling | Dr. Jeffrey Tucker | | Texas AG Race | 35:11–43:18 | Social conservatism, "line in sand" | Mays Middleton | | Strategic Wrap-up: Hormuz | 48:12–50:58 | US Navy response, economic pain | Dr. Thayer |
Episode 5191 offers an hour of rapid-fire, high-stakes commentary linking world events (oil attacks in the Gulf) to domestic legal, political, and cultural battles. Bannon and guests sound alarms on system breakdowns, alleged institutional bias, and urge assertive grassroots action, especially for Texas and in support of medical autonomy. The episode projects a narrative of global chaos met by determined, populist resistance—framing the day's news as both a crisis and a call to action.