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Stephen K. Bannon
Wants to be very forward leaning.
Eric Bolland
Obviously Qatar has the issue, UAE to a degree, Dubai, all that.
Stephen K. Bannon
But really the Saudis, and they're different
Eric Bolland
people, understand they got like 23 million people. I mean, it's a kind of a
Stephen K. Bannon
real country, not just a Gulf Emirate.
Eric Bolland
At 40 and 50, you know, Trump is full spectrum energy dominance, the walls of 55.
Stephen K. Bannon
He wants to get the oil at 40.
Eric Bolland
All these other guys, they want the,
Stephen K. Bannon
they want the oil at 100.
Eric Bolland
So our allies have a perverse incentive to say, yeah, we can't do this.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, Lloyd's in London is not going
Eric Bolland
to, not going to insure us. We're going to the Saudis, you know, shut down or shut in, as you said, that big refinery today, there's a perverse incentive. Now they do need cash at some point in time, but it's a perverse incentive here for them to finally get it up over 100 bucks, which in the age of Trump, it was the exact opposite. Trump's full spectrum energy dominance was driving the price of oil down to something with a four handle on it.
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
How about this, Stephen, in term one, on your term, he got it with his negative 20 handle. In other words, people would produce oil and pay anyone to store the oil for them to the tune of $20 negative a barrel under Trump, never happened before. Here's why. Because the longer and higher you get, the oil price in the conflict comes up really fast. Everyone jacks up the prices really fast. And soon as it's all clear, they can slowly, slowly let that go down. And in the meantime, that profit margin is massive. Back when I was really early in my career, Middle Eastern countries could pull oil out of the ground for about $5 a barrel. Now it's probably around $20 a barrel. So everything above 20 bucks a barrel, lifting, cost, lifting is, is profit. So when it goes to 120 or 150, they've got a massive amount of money. That's why they can hold off right now. They, they eat it right now, but they're certainly going to make it on the backside.
Stephen K. Bannon
Let me, let me ask you before I bounce here and jump into the war room, because we're going to try to bug you over the weekend to come on, unless you're yachting again, which normally you do on weekends, what, what
Eric Bolland
should people be thinking about as we, as, as we, as we go off
Stephen K. Bannon
of air bowling, the markets are closing.
Eric Bolland
What should people be thinking about when
Stephen K. Bannon
they think about the, the geoeconomics of
Eric Bolland
this war and impact on the world
Stephen K. Bannon
economy and The American economy as we
Eric Bolland
get into Monday we're, we're in deep
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
poopy as they say. Steven, where the inflation number that's going to come out that reflect March which will come out sometime late April, early May is going to be a disaster and it's only going to get worse because everything has an oil component to it. And it's as I said they bring the prices down slowly. This could. We're going into summer driving season. I sent you something this morning. Diesel fuel is approaching $6 a gallon right now. Right now diesel is going to get to 10. That is our nation strangulation.
Eric Bolland
Our nation runs on diesel.
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
It does, it does.
Stephen K. Bannon
I gotta let the United States runs on diesel.
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
I gotta tell people. One more question. Okay, one more question. I want to say something before we go. Go ahead.
Stephen K. Bannon
I hang.
Eric Bolland
I got, I got, I got one more for you.
Stephen K. Bannon
I got one more for you. The Saudis and was up the headline on one the Drudge Langston of course Drudgers in the mumble tank. He's no fan of President Trump but
Eric Bolland
the Saudis been telling people if this war at this rate continues into mid
Stephen K. Bannon
April, oil is going to be $180 a barrel. Walk us through how does that happen?
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
So I'm assuming they're going to say what right now? Just so you know, the Middle Eastern delivery, the crude oil from Middle east is $165 a barrel right now as we speak. 112 for Brent, 99 almost 99 for WTI. It doesn't take a lot to get that up. It's People know a longer oils offline, the longer they bring it back online is going to stay elevated. All of it's, it's. I would say that putting boots on the ground especially in Carg island, it's not like that idea at all for the future. Can I just say something folks? I got that guy right there.
Eric Bolland
He.
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
Steve Bannon, Andrew Breitbart and Coulter and I walk into a bar several times New York City, 2011. I walked out of there learning what America first really means from these two. These two gentlemen and independent women. I miss those days, Stephen. But you are true north, my friend. True north.
Dan Sr.
Yeah.
Stephen K. Bannon
No, no. Well thank you. Those were, those were days. Andrew top of his game. Ann Coulter was on fire back then. Was just incredible. Those were the days as we say back at the beginning of all this.
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
Have a great week.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you so much. Eric Bone.
Eric Bolland
Eric, where do people, where do people
Stephen K. Bannon
get you over the weekend?
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
Right here. You come here to Rav, you find me at Rev handing off the Stephen K. Band in the war on the hottest show in America right now and anywhere at Eric Bowling on all social media. Steve, have a great weekend.
Stephen K. Bannon
Okay.
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
See you Monday, brother.
Stephen K. Bannon
Good. We're going to try to track you down over the weekend, put you to work. Thank you, Eric Bolland. Appreciate you. We've got a cold open. We may have to ask Rev we blow the brake. I think the cold opens. So much is going on today in the war. Also, big development in Texas on this Muslim situation and a big, big development in artificial intelligence. We're going to get to all of that, plus what's happening on Capitol Hill. Let's go for a cold open. Coordinated is President Trump and I he's the leader.
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
I'm, you know, his ally. America is the leader.
Stephen K. Bannon
Israel is, as the National Security memorandum
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
described us, I think a month ago,
Stephen K. Bannon
six months, six weeks ago, I think something like that. They called Israel the model ally.
Unidentified Expert
Why it was necessary to preserve a
Unidentified Commentator
relationship with President Trump at this time?
Unidentified Expert
Why was it necessary for him to
Unidentified Commentator
say that the way he did?
Dan Sr.
Well, for one, the, the administration basically said Israel had acted on its own in South Pars. So there was this sense of some kind of disagreement or divergence in approaches to the, in approaches to the war. I think it's important, though, to take a step back. This relationship between Trump and Netanyahu in wartime is. I can't think of another alliance between an American president and the leader of another government, another ally in modern history. I mean, some have compared it to Reagan and Thatcher at the peak of the Cold War in terms of their strategic objectives. A be the complete trust that they have inculcated between the respective militaries and intelligence agencies working together, totally integrated in operational terms. I mean, it really is like a joint command of operations, particularly on the air operations over Iran. The Israelis, now the Israeli military operators refer to this war for the first time in Israeli history as, quote, the war in English, because they, in order to operate in this war, they have to do everything in English, not in Hebrew, because they are so sinked into the American military system. That said, even Reagan and Thatcher had disagreements from time to time. The test of the relationship is not about whether or not two democratic leaders in wartime have disagreements. It's about how they deal with those disagreements. And by and large, there have been some disagreements, one of which came to air, it sounds like yesterday, but there have been others that haven't gotten attention. They're usually held behind closed doors. And as you See there with Prime Minister Netanyahu, he's clear that there's one superpower in this relationship and he's deferring to the president of that superpower.
Unidentified Commentator
Yeah, he metaphorically fell on his sword.
Lynn Davenport
I should also say that CNN has
Unidentified Commentator
reporting that the US did know ahead of Israel bombing those oil.
Dan Sr.
I think it would be hard to be hard for Israel to have done what they did without the US being fully in the loop. Whether the President knew or didn't know, I don't know. But I'm just saying there's no way something like, of that complexity could have been done without the US's knowledge.
Unidentified Interviewee
I have been calling him day in and day out, and today was the day he decided to answer. And he certainly had a lot to say when it comes to Iran. He, of course said, you know, we're winning, we're winning. He says that Iran was two weeks away from completing having a nuclear weapon. He believes they were going to use it. Now, experts have said that's not the case. They believe it was at least a year before Iran was going to have nuclear capabilities. But he said, where we are now, we have obliterated their nuclear capabilities. However, we've gotten a lot. But he says if we were to walk away from the war tomorrow, which he says we could, he thinks the regime would hold. It would probably take the country 10 years to rebuild. But we shouldn't leave unless we know there'll be some sort of leadership change.
Unidentified Commentator
Right now, two U.S. officials tell CNN that thousands of additional American Marines and sailors are deploying to the Middle east as many of America's allies refused to commit forces of their own. And that has President Trump lashing out, writing this, quote, without the usa, NATO is a paper tiger, end quote, and calling America's allies cowards, saying, quote, we will remember, end quote, a simple military
Unidentified Official
maneuver, it's relatively safe, but you need a lot of help in the sense of you need ships, you need volume. And NATO could help us, but they so far haven't had the courage to do so. And others could help us, but, you know, we don't use it. You know, at a certain point, it'll open itself.
Unidentified Commentator
At a certain point, At a certain point, it will open itself. The Trump administration is targeting former FBI Director James Comey again. A source with knowledge of the situation tells Ms. Now that Comey has been subpoenaed as part of a grand conspiracy probe into former intelligence and law enforcement officials involved in the president's prosecution. The DOJ has declined to comment. And we have not heard back from James Comey's legal team.
Unidentified Legal Analyst
This is a very strange investigation, Katie. It's sort of known as the grand conspiracy investigation. It's being run out of the Southern District of Florida. And James Comey is the latest in a series of Obama and first Trump administration figures to receive subpoenas in this case. John Brennan got one, James Clapper got one. Asking for documents related to going back to the Russia investigation and spanning a period, we're told, between 2016 and the present. So some of these people have had to go through their emails for years, and it costs them a lot of money to do that. They have to hire lawyers. And the theory of this case, as bizarre and fantastical as this sounds, Katie, is that starting from the Russia investigation, going through the Ukraine impeachment, the two special counsel investigations, all of that was one grand conspiracy by rogue government actors to target Donald Trump and to violate his civil rights. Now, there's no evidence of that. And all these investigations were examined, including by John Durham, remember, a special counsel appointed by Donald Trump to look at this very matter. And he found no wrongdoing as part of these investigations, other than some minor things. And so that's where we are the bottom. Most people who've looked at this that I talked to, career officials, police believe that this is an effort to harass and intimidate Donald Trump's political appointees. And it's working because it's causing them to have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars, in some cases in legal fees.
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
Katie, hopefully you're calling for a ceasefire in the Middle east and to reopen dialogue.
Stephen K. Bannon
Would you take a.
Unidentified Official
Well, look, we can have dialogue, but we don't. I don't want to do a ceasefire. You know, you don't do a ceasefire when you're literally obliterating the other side. They don't have a navy, they don't have an air force, they don't have any equipment, they don't have any spotters, they don't have anti aircraft, they don't have radar, and their leaders have all been killed at every level. We're not looking to do that.
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
Deployment of Marines, what would they usually be used for?
Unidentified Expert
Would it be for something like seizing Carg Island? It could be the muse. The Marines come with a full suite of aircraft amphibious capabilities. They could be used for a number of things, certainly going ashore at Carc island or other parts of Iran. However, that would be extremely risky. This is still a very hot fight. The Iranian regime is weakened, it's battered, but it still possesses some really potent drone capability, some missile capability. And you have to remember, if there were American forces on the ground, there would always be the potential for the kind of asymmetric attacks that US Forces encountered in Iraq and Afghanistan. And I think we've seen so far that President Trump really doesn't want to see a lot of American casualties in this operation. So I do think it's more likely that the Marines are there either as a force projection measure or potentially for involvement in the evacuation of Americans or American diplomatic facilities which or have are coming under a significant attack during this war. You know, the Trump administration may need to end up putting troops on the ground if they are going to seize the highly enriched uranium that Iran has. But that seems unlikely in the near term, at least immediately.
Stephen K. Bannon
Polls have shown that MAGA is essentially unified behind you, as are Republicans when it comes to Iran. There's been reports that, you know, the United States might be sending 2500 Marines to the Middle East. Are you concerned that a move like that could potentially change the unity?
Unidentified Official
I don't know. I seem to have great support because CNN came out with a poll today that I'm at 100% and they said they've never seen a poll like that. The CNN poll said I'm at 100% and they've never seen that before, which is an honor. I was impressed that CNN would do that. But as far as troops are concerned, I can't tell you what we're doing.
Stephen K. Bannon
Mr. President. Okay, that's. The president was heading down to Mar a Lago and Secretary of State and National Security Advisor Marco Rubio with him. I will have some observations on what we've seen this afternoon, particularly Dan sr. And still, I think if you look at it, the only operational wrinkle we've had from our magnificent military, CENTCOM and of course the Joint Staff has been the situation with Netanyahu and the Israelis. It's gotta be addressed. Dan sr. Right there. Just giving you. How do I say this? Maybe not a bald faced lie, but misinformation which he's known for. We're gonna take a short commercial break. Take your phone out. Text Bannon B A N N O N at 989-898. Get the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. Now more than ever with the financial markets, particularly commodity market turmoil, you want to find out about gold as a hedge for your financial stability. Short break.
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Stephen K. Bannon
War Room.
Eric Bolland
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Stephen K. Bannon
We are we're going to be back tomorrow morning, our normal Saturday morning show. We're also now doing as long as this war goes on, we're going to do a Sunday, we're going to do Sunday morning the exact same time, 10 to noon to get you up to speed on everything that happens because it was like Saturday nights, quite active. I want to get back to Dan Senior and this situation with the joint targeting, what's going on? Also, it doesn't look like just the planning. They're now in, I believe the early execution phase of at least getting assets into the region or the ARR so that they can, if so necessary, if so necessary, they have a capacity or capability that the commander in chief can use. We'll get to that in a moment. There's a couple things. Because we've spent so much time in the war, the very important issues have been slipping under the crack and we can't allow that to happen anymore. One, the artificial intelligence framework from the White House. I think it was four pages, pretty general, but directionally where they want to go. And remember, this audience stopped twice. One in the big beautiful bill and then again in a must pass ndaa, the National Defense Authorization act that actually allows you to start paying for forget the $200 billion that is coming with the bill, but the $1.2 trillion had to be authorized. So those are two must pass pieces of legislation. The big beautiful bill because that was the president's tax and investment policy. They tried to have amnesty, was defeated overwhelmingly, was pulled both times and humiliated. David Sacks and the team that just thought they could waltz into D.C. and just jam it down the throat of the little guy and they found it differently. Now they come up with a four page framework for artificial intelligence, particularly the four Cs. As you know, some of these states have been on fire. Now California does its own thing, but Ron DeSantis down in Florida and Ron DeSantis a smart guy. And I've always said I think a good governor never, I was never impressed and didn't like the fact he tried to primary President Trump. But a good governor, and he's on this one like a dog on a bone and he's not backing off. And he says, hey, I'm here to protect the people of the state of Florida. So Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell from Daily Signal once again has got this is an exclusive and a terrific article. Walk me through because you've had a chance to see this first. This thing is pretty well reported. You've talked to a lot of people. The framework itself and particularly one of the ones, one of the issues people are most concerned about is child safety. I think this leaves a lot to be desired in how you actually do this. But you've actually talked to advocates in the state. The preemption is what we've seen. And I want everybody, if Elizabeth and Mo and Grace can push out the Axios articles and things that came out earlier today with, with the four page overview from the White House of the framework. Do you think in your reporting and talking to people, Elizabeth, that this is going to satisfy either child safety advocates or the people like Ron DeSantis and others around him and at these various states that are all over this thing right now.
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
Ma', am, it's a great question. Thanks for having me back. So what this is is a draft of White House recommendations, what they want Congress to pass. And so there's some child SAF safety provisions in here, measures to protect kids online. And I think the goal here is the child safety advocates are supposed to see this and agree to get on board. People like Marsha Blackburn who kind of have child first mentality about AI. They're hoping those people will get on board with preemption in exchange for those child safety provisions. And I've been talking child safety advocates about will this be enough for for them to agree to preemption, which means that state laws that limit AI will be taken off the books because Michael Krasio's David Sachs have said repeatedly they do not want a 50 state patchwork of AI laws. They want one national framework. And so will this be enough? I'm not sure. It looks like it might not be because a lot of these advocates were saying that it puts the duty of care on the parents rather than on the tech companies. And in a lot of cases, we know parents really are not equipped to take on big tech and these powerful AI companies, companies, they either don't know how, they don't have the time, or the big tech companies are just too powerful. And so in a lot of cases, this just may not be enough for the child safety advocates. They're looking for a lot stronger protections and they're telling me the strongest protections. What they're looking for exactly is in Senator Marsha Blackburn's framework for AI.
Stephen K. Bannon
I want to get some numbers. This is going to be a tough fight and people are going to be at the ramparts of this. So I want to make sure that we start this journey and we make sure people understand nomenclature. Tell me, when you say preemptive as the whole kind of direction or architecture, this, what does preemptive mean? And why is it such a big issue, a big topic when we talk about states versus what the oligarchs want to do with the federal government.
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
The reason this is such a big thing is that the White House is looking for one framework on AI that will determine AI law for the entire country, rather than states having their own AI laws. For instance, there's a law in the Florida House that passed the Florida Senate, didn't pass the Florida House, potentially because of involvement from the White House. But to stick to that bill, it would include parental controls on AI, bans on chatbots, bringing up inappropriate topics to children, those kinds of things. And so a lot of states have these different types of laws. Some states like California, have what the White House considers to be woke AI laws where AI discriminates against conservatives or certain viewpoints. And so the White House wants to preempt some of these state laws, get rid of these state laws in exchange for this national framework. And so this national framework, we have been waiting for it for a long time. We finally got a draft today. I was able to review the child safety provisions particularly in advance. And so what we're seeing in this draft is it says that generally applicable state laws on protecting kids from AI will not be preempted. But what child safety advocates are worried about is that this is too general and could give the White House license to preempt some State AI laws which actually do not create an undue burden, but might just put too much of a. The companies might not want to deal with this type of, this type of burden.
Stephen K. Bannon
Okay, there's another term I want to make sure people understand because you went right to it as a great reporter always does. Duty of care. Explain what duty of care is and why that is so centrally important to this entire argument, ma'.
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
Am.
So there is going to be somebody who the burden to protect kids is on. It could be on the parents or it could be on the tech companies, or it could be a little bit on both, who is responsible primarily for protecting kids. And so this AI framework uses phrases like it's going to empower parents with parental controls, screen time limits, age, app store, parental requirements to sign off on a kid getting an app, that kind of thing. But the issue that child safety advocates are seeing is that studies have shown that putting the burden on parents really does not work because one, parents don't know how to, how to do this. Some parents aren't monitoring their kids online activity. It's just most parents really aren't going to be that involved on what their kids are doing online. And thirdly, most importantly, we've seen a study recently actually from Meta saying that these things don't work and another study related to TikTok saying that most parents do not use these, these parental controls. And the parents who do use the controls feel that the controls that are available do not address their main concerns about inappropriate content. And so while it's great to see parents being empowered as they're saying through this framework, the fact that companies are not responsible for protecting the kids in the way that the par are given the responsibility is where people are concerned.
Stephen K. Bannon
So this is the opening, Salvador. We're going to break it down even more tomorrow. I'm going to have Wittenhall, Joanne's going to join us from Break It all down because there's many, many other the four Cs, you know, you got the creative, you got the conservatives, you got the blocking of all that. Plus you've got just the transparency and where this thing's going and how it's being funded. I might add, it's on the, it was issued on the day after, as we keep saying. One of the big pushes here and the reason you have to have preemption or they want amnesty, they don't want any controls on the Oligar is they keep saying, well, if we don't do this, the Chinese Communist Party is going to take control of artificial intelligence, and then we're doomed. As I note that if we'd lock down the Chinese Communist Party from chips and training and know how in our universities and all the ecosystem that goes around it, the Chinese Communist Party would not even be close to being competitive. And why do I say that? Within yesterday at one of the large companies was caught with former Chinese nationals, some of them U.S. citizens, that were illegally shipping the Nvidia chips to the Chinese. I think it was $2.2 billion of these advanced chips to guess where the Chinese Communist Party so they can be competitive. They need those chips and we should just lock it down. I don't care if it hurts Nvidia's earnings. I don't care if it's blocking a market for them. We should choke the Chinese Communist Party down. Now, back to the just the children's part of it. Marsha Blackburn has been and she's been working like crazy. You know her and her staff very well. She put out some ideas the other day. Do you were her ideas incorporated in this? Are they going to get to that later, or did they dismiss them, ma'?
Unidentified Commentator
Am?
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
Well, Marsha Blackburn wants to be the person who is leading the fight to codify this framework, but there are some pretty significant differences between her framework and the framework we have from the White House, particularly on that back to that issue of preemption. Whereas the White House framework says it will not preempt generally applicable laws, the Blackburn framework lays out multiple points going into detail, making sure that no AI law in the states that has anything to do with child safety is going to be preempted by this framework. And so there are some pretty significant differences here. It will definitely be interesting to see the relationship between Senator Blackburn and the White House AI policy shop in coming weeks because of those significant differences. But if Marsha Blackburn, I think what she's looking for is to lead the charge there. She released her framework just one day before the White House did. And there are some similarities, but Marsha Blackburn's framework is considerably more specific because it's more like model legislation.
Stephen K. Bannon
Elizabeth, just hang on one second. We'll hold you through the break. There's a couple other topics. This was a big day. They took a crack at it. You know, you got to think, you know, you got to say, hey, the White House took a shot at it. Now this is going to get into a process of negotiation. Who's got the political muscle? So we'll see. Short commercial break we got a lot to go to and we're going to go to Texas. We're going to go back to Capitol Hill. Birchgold.com Take your phone out and text Bannon B A N N O N at 989-898. Get the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the Age of Trump. It's totally free and there is no obligation. Make sure you talk to Philip Patrick in his team.
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Stephen K. Bannon
President Trump just put out True Soldier. I'm gonna get to that a minute about the Strait of Hormuz, what we were just talking about at the top of the show. Might have think he was even watching the war room. Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell, you're one of the best reporters on this. Tell me this is one of the, this is the biggest fight that's going on because it ties in geopolitics, the economics, the future of the country. And I keep saying the United States right now is a highly leveraged bet, a highly leveraged bet on artificial intelligence, Ma'. Am. How do you see this Maker Smart. What should we looking for over this weekend, next week? How do you see this thing developing?
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
We are definitely going to see a tough battle in Congress so far. So they're going to need Democrat support in order to pass this. And that's not out of the question because there are a lot of bipartisan areas of concern about AI. For instance, lots of child safety bills are introduced by Republicans and Democrats together. So this is not impossible to get bipartisan support. But there are going to be some key issues. Some Democrats have already released statements saying that this is not going to be enough for them to agree to preemption. They of course are saying they don't want to help the big tech, the big tech companies get richer. And so I haven't seen a lot of Democrats in Congress so far saying they're going to vote for this. And then of course, Republicans, on the other hand, are also going to be a problem. There's a lot of Republicans who are going to say that the child safety provisions, the provisions on data centers, various other things that affect Americans are just not going to be enough for them to support preemption because preemption is a very big deal in order to get all these state AI laws off the book. That's a huge deal. And so it's going to be very difficult to get both parties involved.
Stephen K. Bannon
You have more of the populist, nationalist, anti big tech. You got Schmidt and Hawley from Missouri. You got Blackburn from Tennessee. She's the kind of the leader we all look to. And this is going to be a big fight, folks. Daily Signal, where do they go to keep up with your reporting on this topic? And where do they go for social media?
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
Elizabeth with you can read my work@daily signal.com or follow me on X at the Eliz Mitchell,
Stephen K. Bannon
thank you so much, man. Fantastic, great report. We'll push it out. We'll be a force multiplier. Thank you. Yan. Epic times. You join us. The Kill to Order. I brought you on here quickly. The Chinese Communist Party was caught last night. I mean, President Trump's trying to negotiate a deal. He's trying to go over there and they're caught espionage taking $2.1 billion of advanced chips of advanced chips and trying to get what they're not supposed to have. And he's carved out all kind of other things for Nvidia and they're doing it two point over $2 billion of chips illegally to get there so that they can be competitive with us on artificial intelligence. You're the author of Kill to Order. You know this murderous regime, this bloodthirsty regime better than anybody. Why is it a bad idea to allow them any type of leverage in artificial intelligence, sir?
Jan
Oh my goodness, listen. Because the mind of the CCP is what goes in there. Like, you know how some of these LLMs are functioning in this, you know, kind of super woke fashion and so forth. It's actually a huge problem. Right. And that's why we've got Grok kind of on the other side of that. But imagine, you know, the Chinese Communist Party's mind. Like, this is something that I talk about in Kill to Order, you know, extensively. It's this how the CCP actually instrumentalizes everything, not just bodies. This is like been killed to order. We're talking about human bodies. But here we're going to be kind of getting this very cold, evil way of looking at the world where people are just. The individual dignity of the human being is not matter, does not matter at all. And. And this is going to actually be working built into our LLMs. And this is how it's going to. This is just a complete disaster.
Stephen K. Bannon
Talk to me about. I want everybody to get access to your book over this weekend. I want them to get access to. Because they're going to be shocked. This is a horror story 20 years and people say, well, you know, I kind of know about the organ harvesting. I read an Epic Times thing. Bannon, you've had some guys on last year. You ain't read this. This is where you see inside the mind of monsters. And you need to know, because this is the. You know, I keep saying the Middle east is a sideshow and the Israel situation is a sideshow to a sideshow. The main thing, as Captain Fennell tells us all the time, is the existential threat that the Chinese Communist Party is to its own people, Lao Beijing, and to citizens of the United States of America and to our country and to world peace and prosperity. You have to know what you're dealing with. There's no better book to get to their mindset of this. You're gonna join us also over the weekend. Jan, tell us where to go. I know you got a site, you got social media, you're doing events had a massive hit at the Kennedy Center. I want people to get this book and I want them to get it today. Where do they go?
Jan
Killtoorder.com is where you go. And I mean, this is the book that will actually explain to you not just how this horrible murder for organs industry works, you know, so we're talking about prisoners of conscience unmasked being warehoused basically for the purpose of being used for organs. It sounds like a conspiracy theory. We've got 20 years of evidence that says otherwise. Not just that, but this is the perfect lens to understand this mind of the CCP that we were just discussing. That's Basically being programmed into Chinese Communist Party governed LLMs, which we absolutely cannot allow. Like this is an atrocity that these high end military potential military application chips are being sent over there. I mean through like this crazy, crazy, detailed, elaborate scheme. We have to stop this terrible, terrible,
Stephen K. Bannon
you see the scheme. But maybe we'll talk about that over the weekend. It'll make you sick to your stomach. Large language models for some nomenclature. One more time where they go.
Jan
Young killed to order dot com. Listen, get the book. It's actually number one in a whole bunch of places right now. Communism and socialism. Socialism, Asian politics. Politics. We might actually be able to blow this out of the water and get it on some major lists. And that means that so many more people get to understand what the Chinese Communist Party is really all about. And we need it because I think, I don't know if our policymakers understand the full depths of depravity that this regime can go to.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. See you over the weekend. Both our Saturday and our Sunday show. Sunday now, same time, the Saturday show. You know, the Saturday is my favorite show of the week. So listen. Okay, Lynn Davenport, I didn't realize this in going down to Texas and working on Prop 10 and being one of the drivers of that along with Glenn Beck and Karen segment and of course Jenny story and Glenn's story and the people at Patriot Mobile, everything. Because I'll be honest, I'm kind of trained in the conservative thing to think about the teachers unions and school choice is a good thing. I didn't realize what Buzz Saw was going to step into and how. Lynn, you're one of the more controversial characters, let's say in Texas. But I think there's been some developments over the last 24 hours that prove you right. Now explain it to her. Second, this, you, you've made, you've said, hey, this school choice thing is something we got to look out for. It's not simply the way it's been always pitched as conservatives. It's actually going to be the key model for how the Muslim invasion and takeover of Texas actually operates. And a judge I guess yesterday ruled that in the Texas, the way Texas does school choice, that Texas citizens are actually going to end up paying for these Islamic schools that go under the school choice. Am I correct in that?
Lynn Davenport
Correct. So if Islam is the squirrel that we're all looking at, let's go. Okay. I think often it's, it's detracting from the Israel first agenda that I also see from the same people pushing for vouchers but okay, let's talk about Islam. So we warned grassroots mothers, warned those of the legislature that if they voted for vouchers, they would be going to Islamic private schools and they'll be training little jihadis in these schools. And that's what happened. So the, the federal judge.
Stephen K. Bannon
But hang on. But hang. But hang on. But hang on. But hang on, but hang on. People at the time kind of laughed you off, is that you're an extremist. This is never going to happen. Right. These bills are not set up to do that, but that turned out not to be the case.
Lynn Davenport
Right. So we ended up being right about it. The. The. Is that what you're asking? The
Stephen K. Bannon
yeah.
Lynn Davenport
What did you just.
Unidentified Commentator
Yeah.
Lynn Davenport
I mean, I came on the show twice and we said that this was going to happen, going to be tied up in litigation, and here we are.
Stephen K. Bannon
But the first time that you actually brought this up as an issue, people dismiss it, that this will never happen, that they' never be a situation where you're going to actually have Islamic schools. You were looked at as an extremist or you've got a hidden agenda with teachers unions. This is not going to happen. Right, Right. I've been called a Democrat that I'm aligned with.
Lynn Davenport
Sorry, we have a delay and more
Stephen K. Bannon
importantly, the court in the court and the courts and the courts backed up yesterday. What did the courts say about this?
Lynn Davenport
The court said that they can't discriminate against Islamic private schools. So they extended the deadline, which was supposed to be March 17, and they extended it to March 31, so that these Islamic private schools can apply to the comptroller's office to be a provider to accept the vouchers, and then the families can apply for the voucher, and that would end March 31. So it was extended for them. The issue that we have with the Republican Party that I am a member of and an active member of, is that they claim to want to root out Sharia law. We've got Representative Brent Money of House District 2, and he's got this anti Sharia caucus that they're posturing about. And it's an empty platitude because he voted for vouchers and so did all the members of that caucus. And so here we are. These entitlements, these subsidies are going to go to Islamic private schools.
Stephen K. Bannon
Let me just get this right. Texas citizens, Texas taxpayers money is going to go to underwrite Islamic these. One step up from a madrasa of Islamic schools in the state of Texas. Is that what the ruling Was right.
Lynn Davenport
There's a couple dozen of them in Texas. So not all of them have applied. But the ones that have applied, those voucher your dollars can go to. Yes. To fund the Islamic private schools and homeschools and online schools. One of them is actually an online school.
Stephen K. Bannon
And you're saying they've extended it from the 17th to the 31st to allow more of these schools or more of these students to actually apply for this?
Lynn Davenport
Yes, because they were rejected before because the comptroller ruled them to be connected with terrorists and because of the governor deeming the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE as terrorist organizations. So any Islamic private school that had any affiliation with those were denied. And so the judge ruled that they had to accept them anyway because they can't discriminate based on religion. Now, you'd ask the question back when we were during the legislative session. Yes. There were parents who. The door was closed on us. Holly Plemons was one who. The current comptroller was a sitting senator at the time in his office. Shut the door on her. They didn't want to hear what we were saying, that these vouchers would go to CCP schools, charter schools, I mean, sorry, Muslim private schools, and then they could go to LGBTQ schools, they could go to Wiccan schools. It's not limited to just this one religious school. And we don't want our tax dollars funding that. And it grows government. It's not a conservative. Conservative principle. It expands the reach of government. And I think that that's a problem, that we should not be subsidizing private schools, whether they are my own Christian faith or Islamic faith.
Stephen K. Bannon
So given that, and we're going to hold you through the break, given the fact that you warned people about it, it wasn't taken. And we are where we are with the courts. I know people are going to be fighting this in the courts more, but what can the citizens do? You just passed a proposition that now they're going to have hearings about and get in. They're going to put on the ballot at some time of prohibiting Sharia law in Texas. How do we do that if we're financing the schools that teach Sharia law, ma'? Am?
Lynn Davenport
Well, I think, one, we need to repeal Senate Bill 2 and put the genie back in the bottle. I think all of those who were lobbying for this should be called out. Odyssey is the vendor who is receiving the. They have this contract with the state, so they receive a large percentage, millions upon millions. Because the voucher bill, the.
Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell
The.
Lynn Davenport
The fiscal note was 1 billion to be expanded to 11 billion. And right now they've got a huge campaign where they are targeting private schools so they can get more people to, to apply for the voucher because they want to expand the subsidies. But you know, besides repealing. So yes, we're going to have all of this theater because I said this is the squirrel that we're all looking at at Islam in Texas. Right. So they're going to hold all these interim hearings and these sessions and it'll be the, the, the theater and everyone's going to focus all their energy on that.
Stephen K. Bannon
Hang on one second. We're gonna take a short break. Be right.
Eric Bolland
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Eric Bolland
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Stephen K. Bannon
Lynn Davenport. This is clearly going to be a, a big fight and a lot of people are going to get involved in this. There's a lot of interest and a lot of real estate and a lot of money. But you're right, this has to be dealt with or the Sharia law, the prohib. You can't prohibit Sharia law and be under the folks in Texas underwriting what are essentially madrasas. Let's be blunt. I know they teach some other subject but it's a madrasa. Where do they go Lynn, to get up to speed on your content, your YouTube and your website and social media.
Lynn Davenport
Yes. Lynn S. Davenport on Twitter on X and then telegram channel Social Impact with Lynn DAVENPORT and then YouTube is Lynn Davenport. So I have a ton of videos and interviews and things and I want to say with this anti or they call it the Sharia Free Caucus. I think the GOP activists out there and the members and the grassroots need to call out their reps when they say they're part of this caucus when they all voted for vouchers and so they are part of the problem and they have expand expanded Sharia law with this. So they're hypocrites. They can't get up there or put on their cowboy hat, put on their red blazer and go back home and say look, we got rid of Sharia law, we're fighting this. No they're not. I'm sick of it.
Stephen K. Bannon
I think what we want to do in the next week or two is have do one of the six o' clock hours, have you and some other people on and push through this because I think it's a fight that needs to happen. Ma', am, thank you so much for coming on. Appreciate you and giving us a heads up on this. Months ago when he said this was going to happen a called shot as we say in the war room. Okay, I've got O' Neill McKay. Thank you ma'. Am. I didn't want to have. I got McKay, but hang on. I want to read from the President United States. This is a true social just put up. We are getting very close to meeting our objectives as we consider winding down
Eric Bolland
our great military efforts in the Middle
Stephen K. Bannon
east with respect to the terrorist regime of Iran. One, Completely degrading Iran missile capabilities, launchers and everything else pertaining to them.
Dan Sr.
2.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Eric Bolland
4, never allowing Iran to get even
Stephen K. Bannon
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Eric Bolland
Five, Protecting at the highest level our
Stephen K. Bannon
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Eric Bolland
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Stephen K. Bannon
The Hormuz.
Eric Bolland
Hormuz Strait will have to be guarded
Stephen K. Bannon
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Eric Bolland
If asked, we will help these countries
Stephen K. Bannon
in their Hormuz efforts, but it shouldn't be necessary once Iran's threat is eradicated.
Eric Bolland
Importantly, it will be an easy military operation for them.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you for your attention to this matter. Donald John Trump so President Trump asked people to step up here and particularly the NATO navies and kind of got the big shrug they always come running towards for Ukraine.
Eric Bolland
That is a pretty important
Stephen K. Bannon
that would be one of the ones that I think if you're NATO late on a Friday evening and finishing one of these state dinners, you don't want to get that one in your inbox. That's kind of right between the eyes. President Trump says, hey, look, we took care of the rest of it. It the straight order moves is an issue. It's going to be an issue. You're going to have to get the escort capability down here to do it. Better throw in the Red Sea while you're at it, Mr. President, because the Suez Canal, they're going to be bitching and moaning about that. We'll deal with this tomorrow. We'll get some expertise, some experts on here to do it. But that is a big shift in strategy. Saying Hormuz is not my problem, it's your problem. And if you want to solve it, you better get down here and learn how to escort ships. Neil McCabe, Save America act today they got off the bill to do DHS 16. I think Democrats didn't even show up. They could care less. That didn't pass, obviously. Just give us overview for the weekend. We're going to be here Saturday and Sunday. Of course, we're going to be streaming it live. Real America's Voice may cover it. What can we anticipate, sir, over the weekend on the debate in the United States Senate?
Neil McCabe
As it stands right now, Steve, the Save America act is still on the floor. The Senate is still open. There's debating going on now. There's no official start time for tomorrow. That should be posted when they adjourn tonight. The past few days they've been closing out between 10:30 and 11:30. So I think that's how it's going to go. Tommy Tomerville of Alabama has a bill, an amendment to the Save America act act, which would protect women's sports from men competing as women. And that's something that the president has asked for. But also look for Chuck Schumer to attempt to pull TSA out of the Homeland Security budget as a standalone bill. There's been a lot of pressure on tsa. I think they see an opportunity there. And so the big highlights, Steve Neil,
Stephen K. Bannon
where do people go for your, for your content? You're going to be worth us working over the weekend. Where do they go to get everything as we we focus on this. And look you don't want this. It's not going to be performative but this is a legislative process and Cleta and Jenny Beth will be with us also telling this is going to be complicated. It's going to be if you want to get something done it's going to be a grind. This is going to be we're going to win this in inches, not in yards. Sir. Where do people go Find me on
Neil McCabe
all the socials Steve at reportermcc Cape
Stephen K. Bannon
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Episode 5233: Fighting AI Mandates In The States; Islam Is Creeping Into Texas Schools
Date: March 20, 2026
Hosts & Main Contributors: Stephen K. Bannon (host), Eric Bolland, Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell, Lynn Davenport, Jan (author of Kill to Order), Neil McCabe
This episode of Bannon's War Room centers around three primary themes:
[00:00–16:22]
Oil Price Manipulations & Geopolitical Incentives (00:00–04:36)
Middle East War & U.S.-Israel Alliance (05:25–13:57)
Legal/POLITICAL DEVELOPMENTS: Trump, Comey, DOJ (09:26–11:18)
[16:22–27:42, 30:03–32:10]
White House AI Regulatory Framework (16:28–23:35)
Senator Marsha Blackburn’s Counterproposal (26:42–27:42)
China, AI, and National Security (32:10–36:38)
Memorable Quote:
"If we'd lock down the Chinese Communist Party from chips and training...the CCP would not even be close to being competitive." —Stephen K. Bannon (25:11)
[36:38–47:04]
Voucher System Opens Door for Islamic Schools (36:38–43:52)
Conservative Backlash & GOP Hypocrisy (39:17–42:34)
Next Steps: Repeal and Grassroots Action (43:52–47:04)
Trump’s Message on Hormuz and Middle East Drawdown (47:40–48:38)
Capitol Hill Updates: Save America Act, DHS, and More (50:00–51:18)
The episode underscored ideological conflicts playing out at both domestic and global levels:
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Listeners are reminded to follow these contributors for continued updates as these complex stories develop.